WEBVTT - Russian Love Poem 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.160 Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.960 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.000 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:43.480 These are our stories done done. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.880 Yay, that's messed up an sv podcast. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.440 I'm Liza Traeger and I'm Cara Clank, And you know 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:39.239 how we do SVU true crime. Sometimes I guess, sometimes not, 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.960 and always a gab and then there's gabbing, and there's 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.160 always gabbing up top. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.080 It's so funny because I feel like we're so insecure 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.319 about how much gabbing we do. But anytime I meet 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.239 any of our listeners at any of my shows, they're like, 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.760 my favorite parts, you guys gabbing. I'm you're right, You're right, 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.560 you know, so happy to gab. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.760 I'm also shout out to everyone I met in Europe 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.759 and the sweetest. They want you. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.280 There, they want you there, They're requesting for you, they 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.160 want the pod. I would love to bring the pod 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.440 to Europe. Come on, let's. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.120 Say and in London. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.400 One of the women there, her wife was supposed to 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.120 come to the show, could not. She's a CSI investigator 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:22.920 called to a crime. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:27.280 Scene how exciting. Yeah, wow. The only excuse for missing 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:28.240 one of our shows. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.840 The only excuse for missing a show is I'm on 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:35.279 a crime scene. I'm standing over a body determining cause 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:35.720 of death. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:42.520 That's exciting. Cool. So you did Amsterdam Paris? Like what 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.039 is it like? Like Amsterdam? 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.360 Even though I know they speak at other language, everybody 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.280 is so fluent in English, like when you do care? 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.960 There were two women in the front, confused as all ever, 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.360 would not react to anything after the show full accents hardcore, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.200 and they had gotten a gift certificate to the venue 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:00.720 and they said who. 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.320 Was like the fastest talker and like totally using like 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.680 colloquialisms like not exactly a good like ESL comic to 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:09.600 go see. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:10.560 Or and to sit in the front. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.280 And then she was shocked because I asked the audience 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.840 like who knows who I am? Like who's who knows me? 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.880 Who's the pot? And she would and she goes, yeah. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.839 In my head, I went, what do you mean who 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.000 would know you? That's not the right action and she goes, 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:24.799 but then people didn't know you? But we got a 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.920 gift certificate. I go, for sure, for sure, But I 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.360 went out with a lot of our listeners. Afterwards, I 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.320 went to the bars, I smoked some weed. There was 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.799 like a you know, a group of eight to ten. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:36.600 I would say, oh. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.120 Yeah, And what about Paris, like I'm always some cute boys, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.040 and what it's like to do stand up in places 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.520 where like people really don't speak, like English is not 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:45.320 a mean language. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.760 Well, Kara, I would say. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.920 Ninety percent of my fifty person audience in Paris was 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.120 women that went to France for work in school and 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.480 found French husbands in state. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.000 Ooh, that's so TikTok. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.399 I feel like, yeah, videos of of like here's why 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.639 it's better to live in France, like these ladies wow. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.720 Yeah, so and then a really cutey French guy. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.919 There was a woman from Finland who watched My Finland 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.200 show got a French husband and then they came love that. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:19.040 But yeah, mostly American speakers that lived there, okay, I 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.920 would say, And Paris was awesome. I was only there 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.839 for one day. I got seventeen thousand steps and it's 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.359 like me and Halloween horror nights. That's exactly how many 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.160 steps I got it. And to be there in the 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.080 midst of the jewel heist, so upset that they caught. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.920 What the Jewel Heights happened? I was there two three 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:39.640 days later. I was there like the first or second day. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.240 The louver was back open. Wait, they got caught. They 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.400 got caught. When did they get caught this week? It sucks. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:46.800 They got caught out one one was like on a 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.400 boat or something like they were trying to escape. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.400 Yeah, they got caught unfortunately. You know What's like? 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.480 I also always wonder like where are you selling the 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.280 Crown Jewels of France? 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.280 You know, like I know how arn't. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.680 It's like there's like kind of a market like the 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.560 Crown Jewels of like a former like Queen of France 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:05.680 or Empress of Frances. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.240 It's like, so I think you break it down? Or okay, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.400 can I just tell you? Did you watch the Accountant 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.440 or the Accountant too? No, I've never seen the Accountant. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.839 Casey's Hands is up the best movie of the ever. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.840 He had some he had some art. He has art 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.159 because he does underground stuff, the account and he's. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.520 Completely When you said the art thing, I thought of 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.600 the accountant because it's like a safety net for him 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:28.360 if he gets caught. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.640 He could he just has like these nice paintings that 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.919 he can get rid of. Oh wait, we've talked about this, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:33.480 that's right. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.279 People use it and people have messaged us because I 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.000 think we talked about this with the Isabelle Gardner like 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.560 or isabel stay a Gardner gallery thing. It's like, what 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.479 are you doing with a fucking you know, Monet? But 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.320 I guess people are like, oh, yeah, I've got this. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.280 If you give me less time, that's a good that's 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.920 a good call. Yeah yeah, like a argening ship. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.720 Yeah I didn't. The accountant seems stupid to me. Whatever, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.960 I will say. My flights to Europe I did get 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.400 upgraded to lay down. I'm a really lucky person. I 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.279 get to travel in Europe. They're delay six hours, way 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.760 back delay seven hours, so it is kind of wow. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.400 That is the thing I'm gonna complain about. But I 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.000 got to watch a lot of movies and the accountant 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.000 blew my mind. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:14.160 Oh I loved it. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.640 I don't think Ben Affleck's ever been hotter, and John 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.760 Barenthal is the hottest person ever. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.359 They shooting right now. I wish everybody could see it. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.320 Case he's like doing math in his head and is 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:26.760 not able to figure this out. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.320 I love the action scenes. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.880 The amount of accurate shooting in such a casual manner 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.960 to me was awesome. I loved it. I mean, Anna 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.800 Kendrick was there. She annoys me, but not but it 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.520 has to do with human traffic. It's very like fucking 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.400 with immigration. And the accountant too, is really timely. But 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.160 I fucking loved the account in a way I didn't 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.280 see coming. I thought it was like, fine, whatever, I'll 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:50.960 watch it before I go to bed, And then I 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.040 was up for hours, back to back account and being like, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.359 why did John Barenthal say, you know to our podcast 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:57.880 hottest guy I've ever seen? 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.360 I loved it, I know, and Trinity Killer is in it? 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.440 John Liftgow, John Lithgow, I finished Dexter. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.960 Wait did you see the spin or not? Or am 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.280 I being so crazy and intricate? Okay, if you if 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.279 you guys you don't watch spoilers, give me a minute, 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.000 give me a minute. It's the scene where you know, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.640 he doesn't know it's twins yet and he brings Daniel Bastaschian. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:26.240 What's his name, it's dust Melchin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.239 So when he's in the kitchen and then he switches 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.559 the drinks and then the guy falls and then after 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.599 Dexter spins and it's like, oh, who's the smart guy now? 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.320 And I like love that spin. That spin is like 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.000 everything because then you told me, you. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.480 Me going, did you see the spin? And I go, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.039 I don't know. I'm at this part. I don't know 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.480 what the spin is, Like I didn't. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.719 Well, I knew you had seen it because you knew 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.360 the twists that there's the Gemini killer. Yeah, so I 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.000 knew you had seen it, but just in case, I 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.479 didn't want to ruin it. But it's when he like 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.560 gets him in the kitchen and like he's just proud 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:54.040 of himself. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:55.640 Yeah back, he's back. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.279 Baby, And I was happy I got to see the 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:58.240 dance I got. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:06:59.800 I got to I feel like, I, oh, yeah back. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.039 I have to go back and listen to the Kadia 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.240 Saraf interview so that I can like put everything together 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.719 since I had been like I was an episode in 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:08.720 when we interviewed her. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.280 But I really like that nothing ruined it for you, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.440 because I was like, oh, the slides and this and that, 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.240 and I'm glad nothing like penetrating. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.040 And it was like weird things were coming back to 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.320 me as I was watching them like Jesus, I texted 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.760 you this, but like the fucking New York Ripper photos 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.000 were Now, do that is that season two? Or do 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:30.720 we think we're just putting that to bed where they 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.200 find them. No, they have to go get him. They 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.080 have to go get him. I want Dexter to go 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.200 to Minnisoona, Wisconsin. I want Dexter in Wisconsin. He's gotta 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.080 find Eric stone Street. I want him in Wisconsin so bad. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.880 And then I want the women of Wisconsin meet him. 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.960 Yeah, yeah, and then I want the detectives to go 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.480 for the Ripper, get the Ripper or something. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.640 But they're gonna go after Dexter. The slides are missing 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.960 Eric stone Streets Emmy, Emmy, but yeah, but his he's 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:02.480 like m O. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.320 Like somebody wrote into Who's the Bitch? And was like, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:11.080 am I a bitch? Because I was walking in my 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:15.600 neighborhood and this guy like fell over with his bike 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.000 and was like I'm hurt And she said I'm not 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.360 gonna help you, and or she said can I call 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.400 someone for you? Are you okay? And he kept being 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.640 like yeah, I just can't get up. Can you help 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.320 me up? And she was like I'm not gonna go 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.560 over there because you could attack me. And like she 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:30.880 was like, am I being the bitch? I was like, 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.040 are you being the smartest person in the world. No, 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.840 you're not a bitch, Like I could not believe. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.959 Like it was exactly like how he getting now I'm 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.920 getting chills. I'm like upset. Yeah, yeah, men don't ask 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:43.480 women for her. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.320 And I was like, she was like, I can call 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.120 someone for you. My husband's up the road, like she 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:49.960 was walking in her neighborhood. But it's kind of like 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.480 a rural area I think of Michigan or something like 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.240 not rural, but like a little bit country. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:55.560 So scary and so. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.200 And I was like, I wonder if it's someone that 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.240 listens to both the podcasts or not, because that oh, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:00.760 a lot of people. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.360 But I bet it's someone because that is that is 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:05.760 so creepy. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.560 And this this came in but way before I watched 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.400 Exter like any of that, you know, like, and I 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:15.120 was like crazy, but and she was like, yeah, the 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:16.920 guy was just like I can't get my bike. It's 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.760 like what a bike's weigh like max forty pounds, Like 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.280 get the bike off of you, Like unless you're truly 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:23.600 paralyzed or something like. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.240 It sounded so scary, like the way she we were, well, yeah, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.600 I had a scary moment, and it's what we talk 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.520 about on this podcast all the time. But so you know, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:36.440 I'm an art fiend. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.400 And if anyone has not looked at my instagram Simpsons 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.720 National Ireland Gallery column art, Oh my god. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.240 I went through it. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.000 It looked like it took so much time and it 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.400 was great and I don't even know the references like 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.400 to the Simpsons, but I was like, wow, these are good, like. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.400 My favorite part. It is truly the greatest thing. 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.760 Our friend Lauren is putting it in her jam newsletter. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.480 So art, but we'll be. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.680 Seeing it, but gotta get it out to the people. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.240 But that was on my second day, and I, oh, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.800 the Oscar Wild statue. I fully started bowling. It's the 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.040 coolest statue I've ever seen in my life. Really, have 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.360 you ever seen it? Like it's green and pink and 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.720 he's making it's the best statue I've ever seen and 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:18.800 it's by the Art Museum. 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.280 I did cry. I was like so happy. 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.679 But anyways, the Simpsons thing, that's what everyone keeps asking 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.760 how long it took? And it was about six to 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.920 seven hours, but like I had a flight that day, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.559 so like after the museum, I had like a lunch 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.280 by myself, So I started it while I was like 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:39.360 eating by myself or dinner or whatever. And then I 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.280 did it in the uber to the airport while sitting 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.760 at the airport, and then I edited it a bunch 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.960 of it on the flight, and then I checked into 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.920 my hotel and the uber to the hotel in London, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.840 I was doing it, and then I sat at the 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.679 hotel bar for two hours finishing it. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.640 Okay, when I got back, when. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.600 You're like, okay, I got this. I got this picture 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.120 of like a child holding a lamb. Are you like, oh, 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.199 there's that episode Lisa has a lamb? Or were you 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.920 googling like Lisa lambasas a lamb? What's the process? 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.000 The first thing that caught my eye it was a 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.120 sketch of like a woman in a pinkish dress, and 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.640 that's what made me think of Marge's episode with the 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.719 Chanelle suit. So I was like, oh, I'll take a 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.679 photo of it. I'll do a side by side. That's cute. 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.400 And then I in my head, I went, well, I 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.160 wonder how many and then I went, I don't want 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.800 to ruin my art experience by like only thinking about 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.880 the Simpsons. So I made it a point to like 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.600 be in the moment, look at the art and not 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.680 think ahead. But then certain things were just so obvious. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.040 I'm like, obviously, that's the lamb. That's there was actually 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.800 two Lamb paintings. I had to I've made two clauses 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.600 and debated, but like, so a bunch of it. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.600 I just saw stuff. I was like, this is Simpsons. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.320 But I also always just take pictures of artwork that 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:46.960 I like so I could look at later. And then 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.719 I also like to send it to our friend who 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:54.880 does art management, because I want approval. I want approval, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:57.599 because in Paris I sent her. I was like, I 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.959 was taken by some art. I went to a random gas. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.200 Is it legit or not? She goes, we were supposed 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.880 to go there that week, Like that's legit. So to me, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.680 I feel good about myself when I like can sense something, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.480 So I always take photos of things I just love 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.640 as well. So then I was searching for specific images 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.200 and then some it was like Simpson's ghosts, and then 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.600 I would look through so some were very specific images 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.040 and some were specific scenes that I then had to 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.760 pull up on YouTube and screenshot the exact moment that worked. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:29.680 Wow, it wasn't even in the Google images like nobs okay, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.480 and some of them are really fast scenes. 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.480 So it really took a lot of screenshottings. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.000 Oh, I get the image I needed, and then some 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.280 a few different images would work. So I would make 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.760 like the image the collage for all the paintings, and 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.360 then I'd pick the one I like the most, so 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.680 I would say like seventy percent. Like I was like, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.000 that's gonna be a Maggne, Like it's a Picasso called 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.920 Baby with the Lollipop. There's a famous scene with Maggie 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:52.480 with the lollipop. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.160 Like yeah. So for most of them I knew, and 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.880 then some just I was searched. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.000 I would search like green Grass and like see what 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.320 the best was, or I had other ideas but they 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.800 didn't work as visual so it was different. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.080 Amazing. Yeah, it is the greatest accomplishment. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.600 But before that, the first day I get into Ireland, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.600 my hotel room's not ready. I have to like walk 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:17.040 I find something that says something about art, like I'm 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.360 not going to say the name of the place. So 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.800 I walk over and it's a door and it's a 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.840 brick building and it's really small. So I'm like, oh, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.040 it's not a museum, it's just a gallery. This seems weird, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.280 but I'm like, I'll just go in. So I ring 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.320 the buzzer. A man opens the door and he is 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.400 on his way out, and I go oh, and he goes, well, 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.840 I'll stay take a look. And of course it's just 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.640 us two and it's his gallery. So it's like we're talking, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.320 and then he tells me it's like thirty year anniversary, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.480 so it's a bunch of artworks throughout the decades he's 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.240 had this gallery. He has a home from the eighteen hundreds, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.440 his great grandfather. But I mean we're talking, we're talking, 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.640 and then it's what in the colleens stand. It's in 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.440 all of the survivors that we like cover the cases. 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:01.240 I my gut just felt. I've never felt like this before. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.360 And I'm paranoid and freaked out often and suspicious, but 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:09.000 like I swear, my stomach just dropped and I just 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.520 started looking at him different, and I was like, I 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.000 need to get the fuck out of here. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.520 Wait. Just halfway through it wasn't even from the jump. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.720 No, I was being fine, and then my I just 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.280 everything started panicing, Like my stomach dropped like a roller 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.760 coaster and wouldn't go away. And I was like, this 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.400 is what people talk about. I got to get out 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.960 of here, but I wanted to be casual. And then 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.600 he was like, what hotel are you at? And so 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:38.040 I just started kind of moving, and once I looked 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.200 at his face, it reminded me of like the British cases, 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.440 the cases we cover where it's like a guy with 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.040 a wife who just has bodies, you know, just yeah, 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.760 middle aged, a little older, just oh my god, maybe 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.800 he'd be strong or not. I don't know, but I 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.520 just I've never felt that the men have this. No, 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.720 it's like women's intuition. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.000 Like casey, have you ever been standing somewhere or anything, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.320 You're like, this person is unsafe. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.280 I gotta get away from that. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.280 Like, like, I don't even know if I would have 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.960 listened to it without our research. Like the only reason 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.120 I'm so adamant about it is because of Colleen Stance. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.000 Because I totally know what you're talking about. Where you're like, 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.280 I can't even put my finger on this, but this. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.720 I look, something is fucked up here. But it's crazy 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.200 to me because to me, I feel like, if it's 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.040 ever happened to me, it's like from the get go, 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.280 and it's weird that there was just a vibe shift 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.400 that feels like something in a TV show where somebody's 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.600 so innocent and then there's just a flicker of an 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.800 eye movement and you're like, that guy's bad, you know 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.920 what I mean, Like in a TV show, but now 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.240 happening to you in real life. I'm saying like he 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.920 looked at me like I was dinner, Like it looked 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:42.560 like his face shift. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.560 The way he was looking at me. After this was 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.400 after I already had the feeling. I was like, oh 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.240 my god, I gotta go, I gotta go. And he 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.680 was nice like there was nothing yeah and that. But 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.120 when I walked out, I was so fucking panicked. Walk 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.280 the opposite way of my hotel and just kept walking 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.800 and I ended up walking into a beautiful garden that 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.520 was dedicated to Irish people that lost their lives for freedom. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:08.680 Oh it was like gorgeous, gorgeous garden, like water pool 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.640 cross Is this all in Dublin? Seagulls? Yeah? 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.280 Wow, so it was. And then I was paniced for 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.600 a while, and then I went back to uh, you know, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.560 walked and got to my back to my hotel. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.360 I just went to your hotel and watched the SVU 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.640 to calm down. I had a nap, dude. The it's tough. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.000 When you're in a place for a day, you want 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.320 to live the most of it, and then you're also 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:29.840 hyped up from the show, so you're not in bed 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:31.400 until two and then five am I have to be 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:32.280 at the airport. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.800 And the jet lag is like crazy. Well it wouldn't 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.400 have been if my flight took off on time. I 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.840 planned for it. I planned very well. It was very specific. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.880 And then speaking of I can't I don't don't want 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.479 to put people on blast. But it is also crazy. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.120 So I'm at a party. I'm not going to say 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.080 where or when whatever, and someone comes up to me. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:55.680 So a group of us. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.680 A guy comes up supposed to talk to us, and 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.120 he goes, I have something to tell you. I'm like, oh, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.600 party gossip. He goes, there's a murderer here. I go, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.760 excuse me. He goes, dude, there's someone here. There's a documentary. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.880 He killed his girlfriend and got off on it. They've 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.080 ruled it a suicide. But she has all these stab 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.600 wounds and markings on the on the back of her body. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.560 He's here, and then our friend goes, I fucking hugged 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:17.159 him today. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:18.560 I know him. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.679 So I was at a party with this guy. The 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.359 it's a Hulu doc. It's called Death an Apartment six 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.600 zero three. What happened to Ellen Greenberg? And this is 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.960 all alleged. This is obviously alleged. He has not been 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.040 found guilty in any sort of criminal core and I 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.639 have not watched the documentary, so that's important to note. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.960 This is just gossip I heard while I was blacked 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.359 out drunk. But wait a minute, but I was with 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.760 I think, hold on, I didn't say. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:50.600 I had him. I didn't know him. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.200 And then that night also someone said, like the meanest 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:54.000 thing I've ever said to me. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:55.200 I was so mad. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.520 What I was truly talking to someone. I was blacked out, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.840 like there was a party upstairs. I was like, I 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.000 had a great fucking night. I was, but I was 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.919 My goal was to get drunk and have fun. And 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.520 I'm like talking to someone and I'm talking talking to 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.160 and then she looks at me and goes, it seems 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:10.320 like you're doing bits. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.920 I go, excuse me, wait, my. 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.680 Friend Nancy directed death in apartment six o three. 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:17.840 Oh my god. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.520 You have to text her to ask her if you 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.879 did it. The doc I think is supposed to be 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:23.199 he did it? 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.480 Should I text her right now? Text her right now, 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.920 do anything? Text her right now. I'm gonna finish. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.200 So basically, this girl like, to me, as a comedian, 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.000 the worst thing you could do is bits and conversation, 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.760 like doing jokes and practicing jokes or planning jokes while 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.800 you're in the moment talking to someone to me is egregious. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.480 It's like why you won't be liked if you do it. 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.520 It's also my biggest fear in life. And so if 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.240 I even mention something that I do in my set, 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:49.760 I always go, oh, I do a joke about this. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.680 It's very apporting to me. Right Or if we're having 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:53.680 a fun chat and then. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.880 Everyone laughs at something I said, I'll be like, oh, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.040 do you guys like I'm gonna write that down, like 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.560 I'll do that. But to accuse me of doing bits 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.880 to your face while I'm just like being engaged trying 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.760 to like talk to you and be your friend to 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.959 me is so insulting, and so I just I clarified. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.760 She said it, and I went okay, and I turned 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.920 around and walked away from her. I like I could 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.280 I I don't know, maybe she didn't, but she knows 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.639 commedy like it. To me, I was like, okay, because 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.120 only a horrible person would do that, Like it's. 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.960 Really I mean, we do this. We know people who 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:27.879 just do bits bits. They're out of my life and 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.480 they're at a party with That's not me. I don't 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.679 do that. I'm like a pretty real pot I've never 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:34.840 seen you do that. 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.600 No, I'm like, Matt, you don't even do like bits 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.520 on stage, like bits are not your thing, Like I 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.960 don't know like bits, Like I'm not like, oh that's 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.600 a Liza, Like I don't know you do jokes you like, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.040 but everything you do is so conversational that, like your 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.640 whole stand up is conversational. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:53.480 I don't even feel like you're doing bits when you're 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:54.080 doing bits. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.359 I was stunned, and I know I was really drunk, 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.520 but I definitely started to cry in the bathroom stall. 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.600 But like then I had a great night. For a second, 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.439 I did because I was like, if someone it's not 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.280 authentic because it's also inauthentic. You're calling me in authentic, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.120 and you're calling me like tough to be around. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:14.200 She was doing is like what. 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.280 If she was also saying like these feel like bits, 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:18.880 like you could do these on stage? 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.760 Is it was it like that? No, because I clarified 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:26.120 because I looked at her like what, yeah, that's crazy. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.800 I go, if you don't like my enthusiasm, I'm happy 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:30.800 to turn away. I know everyone here, I don't have 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.240 to talk to you, and yeah, oh yeah. So this 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:34.400 was like an industry. 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.080 Party, so like upstairs was really busy with suits and 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.160 so me and six friends were alone in the basement 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:45.320 bar getting hammered like. I didn't talk to anybody else 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:51.440 at all. I didn't meet anyone I stood downstairs get 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:56.199 in lit with just like our close friends. So I 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.960 don't know, but I was definitely going crazy about Oh 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.320 I watched Sorry baby, you know, I don't know on 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:02.000 the fly, I. 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.040 Saw a story with your list of movies and that 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:05.800 was the only one that I was like, what is that? 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.280 I don't know that I have a victor. She's like 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:10.760 I knew her from New York. I don't know if comedy. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.919 She had a book, like I don't. I don't know 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.280 how I know her. We follow each other and maybe 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.359 I've met her a few times. But she wrote and 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.960 directed this movie and it's gotten a lot of attention, 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.280 and she's gotten to go to cool fashion shows. But like, 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:24.960 it got a lot of attention. But it's a small 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.119 independent movie. But then I saw one of the producers 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:31.280 was Barry Jenkins, so I don't know, okay, and Lucas 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.920 Hedges and Naomi Aki. There's like big people and people 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:34.719 in it that I've heard of. 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.200 Yeah. Oh, Also, I finally watched My Mom Jane. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:43.200 Oh, I'm gonna cry bad to say I haven't seen it. 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.520 I loved it. Okay, I'm gonna watch it. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.639 I just knew I loved Marishka, but like watching it truly, 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:53.640 like the way I just like, am I can't it. 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.760 Was really what I'm going to watch. I'm gonna watch. 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.399 I made my mom watch. I sent her my pastors. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.320 I was like, you have to watch this. Been talk 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.919 to her yet, but like, yeah, she watched it and me, 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.600 I don't know. I just was really moved by it 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:07.280 and can't wait to watch it again. And I think 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.520 she's gunn for an Oscar nomination, and maybe we should 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.399 try to get her finally for the podcast, because the 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:12.240 bitch is doing press. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:17.440 Yes, she's doing pods. She's called she got right. Oh. 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.639 She also admitted she saw Hamilton twenty seven times. 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:27.359 I saw that, Like that's a little bonkers. But she 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:30.680 is doing press. She ha me Pohlar's podcast, Like it's 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:31.679 kind of exciting. 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:33.720 We should we can try. 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:39.480 Yeah, yeah, I mean I wonder, Yeah, I mean yeah 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.200 we should, but we yeah, we should figure that out, 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.920 but are not or we take our time maybe when 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:46.680 she's really gun in it in the spring to get 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:53.240 that Oscar. Have you been catching up on the current season. 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:55.040 I know you've been like in Europe and stuff, so 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.800 maybe you're Hulu like work. I've only watched two episodes. 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:03.119 I'm being huh mind and I can't wait. I like 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.840 the vibe of the new season, like just generally I'm 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.680 not let you know, like I think that. And we're 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.080 getting a few comments from listeners too that are like 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.920 I'm feeling the female showrunner bringing it kind of back 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.480 to old form, which I like. 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:20.679 And they're also going back to the old Neil Bear ways. 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.320 I feel of a guest star. Yes, like a guest 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.720 star being this big thing, Like I feel a return. 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:28.520 To that in a way. Yeah. 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.439 Well that yeah, because in a recent episode, Norbert Leobots, 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.200 the original bach was, who has also been on sv before, 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.159 was who they were kind of plugging because I think 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:42.760 they were making like wicked references at least on the Instagram. 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:44.680 But then. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.240 I also just like that it's like there's some regular 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.280 crimes against regular people. It's not, like I've said before, 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:58.280 the most like all these like hugely institutionalized like you know, 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:03.600 uh people like high powered figures or like human trafficking 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.240 where it's these massive issues that you're like, oh my god, 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.119 like how do we even get your brain wrapped around this? 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.640 It's like no, this person was like in an Airbnb 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.359 and they were assaulted, so like what happened? 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:13.560 You know? 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.240 Like so I think that there's I think I have 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:21.080 high hopes for this season. And I'm loving our boy, 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.240 Kevin Kane, our fave. He's really great. 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:29.040 And I watched one of an episode in a newer 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.800 season to research up on a guest we're about to have, 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.119 you know, like who's been in a few episodes. So 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.119 like I watched it, and I was watching Kevin Kane 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.080 and he had a mustache, and I was like, I 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.240 fucking love Kevin Kane, Like, yeah, when was the last 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.720 time we were this gung ho about a new detective? 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:51.280 Like never, never, I'm usually suspicious and annoyed, like I 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:51.800 love him. 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:52.399 Maybe I know. 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.800 Yeah, And hopefully a lot of you got you guys 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:57.720 all got the answer, because a lot of you were like, 0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.840 did you guys know the new guy was on rape 0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:01.480 and erupted And it's like, yes, we just and that 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:06.000 was last week's episode. So but uh yeah, maybe we'll 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.480 get Corey cott on here to talk to us about 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.000 being Brock Turner and now being this like guy. He's 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.520 doing a little bit of a New York accent too, 0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.080 which I always think is like a choice. But okay, 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.040 we really have to start. I think he's called up 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:20.240 a forty five minute flag. 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.159 I just want to say, I'm you know, I'm doing 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.000 my bald in the Beautiful and queens who like to 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.400 watch full deep dive. 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:27.600 Yeah, And I. 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.320 Really thought you were just saying you're gonna be on 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:30.879 bald In the Beautiful and I was I was about 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:31.560 to have a heart attack. 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:37.640 I was like you're on, I would not be able 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:38.280 to keep that in. 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:42.400 No, Katya just mentioned doctor Michael Badden, and I was excited. 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.240 That's the note. Actually, can I also out of the 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:46.600 way you thought I was going to be on it? 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.359 She just mentioned a thing that I also Yeah. 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:55.520 No, Katya, on the last podcast or two ago, they 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.320 were talking about Halloween and she goes, yeah, like when 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.159 people dressed as the Chilean and I was like, I 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.000 dressed as a Chilean miner, but I want everyone to 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.439 know the Chilean miners were all rescued and were fine 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:12.000 on October fourteenth of that year, and by Halloween it 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.760 felt like it was okay to put on a little 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.720 hard hat and be a Chilean minor. They were okay. 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.320 I mean, it was a terrible thing, but like it 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.040 wasn't like they were currently trapped and we were like, lol, 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.600 let's get drunk, you know, Like they were all out, 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.119 so I thought it was okay. 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.360 I almost texted Trixy to be like they were out 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.800 of the cave, but I didn't. I can't. 0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:33.680 I have to resist the urge to text about every 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.440 single comment I have on the pod. 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.600 Wait, and one more quick thing. I got a new fridge. 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:42.840 Ooh my other one, remember on air, like my door 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.080 stopped closing and so the fridge door. And then when 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:50.879 the guys came to deliver the new one at seven am. 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.520 He went to open it and the door handle flew 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.000 off of it. So it was time. 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:59.960 It was time, you know, New York or not LA, 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.280 maybe California, but definitely LA just followed New York in 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.199 that they have to get people fridges. Now, you know 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.280 how that was like a bullshit thing about apartments. Heeries 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:08.359 that you didn't have to give fridges. 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:12.159 California is the only place whereaches are not guaranteed. 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:13.840 Now they are. They changed it. 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.200 That was like so fucking strange, Come to California, get 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.639 a fridge. One more quick thing before we finished. We 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.399 all know this administration is like evil and is starving 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.280 people and depriving them of their snap benefits. So I 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:30.399 wanted to recommend an organization to donate to, but honestly, 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.080 it's so by state. So I would just like everybody 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.240 to take a second. And I mean, there's Feeding America, 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.199 there's World Central Kitchen, there are like national ones, but 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.160 I think googling in your state where you can get 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:49.400 people snap benefits. Please go donate to a food pantry, like, like, let's. 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.280 Help people because our government is not doing that. 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:55.160 Like I'm like devastated by members of my own community 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.760 that are going to be going hungry in November, the 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.040 month of thanks the month of Thanksgiving, that people are 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.080 not gonna be able to eat because of this like 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:05.640 psychotic government. 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:06.760 Uh. 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.359 That was actually the craziest part about being abroad. And 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.080 I was doing jokes about it, but I'm like, usually 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:12.639 you go to Europe and you can make fun of Europe, 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.680 but like, we don't have a Department of Education, so yeah, 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.359 I don't know, Like is it that bad that my 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:17.280 diet coke swarm? 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:22.320 I'm like, why isn't there ice? You guys don't use dryers? 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:23.160 This place is weird. 0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.600 Yeah, And it's like truly we have nothing and they're 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:31.400 starving our citizens so they can imprison them. But we're 0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.679 gonna yeah, uh yeah, be me there for people. But 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.800 I guess a bunch of states, this is just our free, 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.560 our suing. But nothing matter, right, And you know what, 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.280 like the right like their big thing is like well 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.440 it's the Democrats closing up like they don't care about Congress. 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.520 They're doing whatever they want, so like, why would this 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.080 be any different if they wanted to feed people, they 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.800 could feed them, Like they're so stupid. It's really really hard. 0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.880 It's really hard. I mean, I am on aka. I 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.480 don't know what's gonna happen to my health insurance? 0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:02.400 Me too, girl, I like we'll check as this episode. 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.600 Coming out, I will know how much more I'm being 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:05.400 charged next year. 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.880 And I'm already like I'm already. 0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:12.200 Like like struggling to pay for our ACA right now. 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.880 Like it's fucking crazy. And then when you go on 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.960 the website for Snap or for the government, it says 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.440 because the Democrats voted it down. There are just on 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.280 government communications blaming the Democrats when they are in charge 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:31.520 of everything. It's so insane. We're living in the upside down. 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.280 And I hope that we can afford our health insurance. 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.000 Whoop. Okay, let's get started. 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:39.520 But please, if you have the means give back. Let's 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.000 get food to people that need it this month, because 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.240 this is fucked. 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.560 But Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it's truly the most important thing. 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.720 Yeah, I learned that from you, that whole hierarchy. Yeah, 0:29:51.840 --> 0:30:00.080 all right, let's get started. Another classic episode. Today we 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:06.160 are doing Russian Love Poem, Season one, episode twelve. This 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.800 bad Boy is from two thousand. Oh my gosh, this 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.040 came out in January. 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.320 Of two thousand. You know what I'm about to say? 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.520 What pre nine to eleven? Pre nine eleven? Yeah, of course, 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.320 of course I. 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:22.240 Also want to say, I need I need this recap. 0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.520 I've seen this episode lots of times. I speak the language. 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.680 I still don't know what's happened. I don't know anything. 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.520 I can't keep anything on track. Like I watch it 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.880 and I for some reason, it goes into my brain 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.840 and leaves immediately, like I don't know why. 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.520 It's like a wormhole for me. So I'm exciting. 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.760 This episode is so crazy because I remember the beginning. 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.880 I could practically word for WORDW know the beginning of it, 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.920 and then I had absolutely no idea how it ended. 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:51.760 When they reveal one of the characters at the end, 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.480 I was like, that's who it is, Like I did 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:57.920 not it. Also, Oh my god, I love a season 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.720 one so juicy, so many plot holes. 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.760 So I just remembered so much. Oh god, yeah, this 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:04.480 is exciting. 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.560 Yeah, there's so much. This is one of the most 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.520 convoluted episodes. Also, this show really in the first twelve 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.600 seasons is so fucking obsessed with Russia. Like there's so 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.640 much to do with Russia. Like this episode is like. 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.960 Has Russian on his like special skills, so they're like, 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:24.000 let's get over there. 0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.720 Like it's just like if you think look back, there 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.680 is so much Russian stuff in this show. In the 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.360 first twelve season, we got to ask Neil Bear, like, 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:33.040 what's the deal dog? 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.960 He wasn't in. 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.080 Season one, but it keeps going. I mean we have 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.240 to be like who among you? 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.960 Was like, because Craigan loves the Russian sex worker. 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.760 Yes, but there's Russian mafia, Like there's all this stuff. 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.880 It's like there's a pet problem wanted, you know, the 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:53.600 baby trade. Maybe it's like at the time, like in 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.800 New York City, the Russian mob was kind of like 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.760 the main mob, and like now I think it's moved 0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.320 into other mobs, as we've seen on See It's moved 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.720 into like you know, Armeni and Maffa. 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.920 I started watching Barry and there's Chechnie Chechene in mine. 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.080 Oh yeah, wow, they really went deep. Yeah, they went 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.920 Barry is so good. I love Barry. 0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:17.360 That ball, Chechenian guy, runaway star. I mean a funny 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:22.840 gotty like we love him so funny. Yeah, I don't 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:24.640 know why it took me a while to get into it, 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:25.880 but I also need to. 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.720 And he's a great actor, like he does dramatic stuff 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:29.640 later in the series. 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.240 Like he's really good that guy. 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:36.200 So the first minute of this episode, the first second 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.560 of this episode, I hear the word Andrew, and I 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.440 know exactly who this is. It is Deborah Rush. She 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.680 is and to me a personal icon, Like I love 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.720 this woman. She is like a Catherine O'Hara to me. 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.240 She plays Jerry Blank's mother and Strangers with Candy. She's 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.840 Piper's mother on Orange is the New Black. She is 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:58.840 just like her so girl to me, she plays the 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.640 Jessays husband's mom. They go to the steakhouse. Like I'm 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.280 obsessed with her. Yeah, she has like a she's a 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:08.400 rich lady voice. 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.120 Isn't she the mom in the beginning? No, maybe she's not. 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:12.560 I think I've taken it too far. 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.320 Hold on. Yeah, Deborah Rush. 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.720 Oh, yep, she's in big business. She plays someone named 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:18.680 Binkie Shelton. 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:20.320 She's the mos like in the Limma. 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.080 Yeah, that's like so her like, I feel like she 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.200 always plays like a rich psycho name. 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.160 I didn't know that was their names, Binkie and Hunt 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:37.200 Binkie Wells always from Arthur, a rich lady, and she 0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.320 is just so good at it. Joe Griffs is the 0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.680 dudding in big business, yes, but he's SVU hardcore. 0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.480 Oh god, has she Horowitz? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.880 Wow Wow. I can't believe I just put that together. 0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:57.240 This has been another another journey down IMDb with us. 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:02.320 Casey's pulling his hair out. Okay, yeah, we're literally at 0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:08.799 minute ten. We've said nothing. Okay. She is walking up 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.840 the stairs of this New York townhouse and she's like 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.760 Andrew and walking up the stairs and being like, Andrew, 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.080 are you home or are you out hooring? And she 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.960 says it right in front of her little blonde daughter 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.000 who's right behind her. And then when she gets to 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.520 the top of the stairs, she sees a candelabra is 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:25.600 lit with candles. 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:27.920 The music is ominous. I mean, we're about to find 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:28.520 a dead body. 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.000 They stop in the doorway of a study and the 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:35.000 daughter goes, daddy, oh god no and runs into the room. 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:40.279 Deborah Rush stands there unaffected, not sad, not shocked, like 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.760 kind of no like noute. And we see the daughter 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:46.960 bent down in front of her dad, yelling daddy, and 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.120 when they turn around and you actually see he's a 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.240 different kind of daddy. Okay, he's chained up, leather, harness, 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.839 gimp mask everything the BDSM fantasy and he's lying their 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.200 limp and the daughter is upset and crying and like 0:34:59.239 --> 0:34:59.960 looking to her mom. 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.760 And then hard cut. 0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.760 To dad getting zipped up into a body bag. Okay, 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.200 he was not just passed out, he is gone. Benson 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:12.160 is talking to the wife, Deba Rush, and she's like, well, 0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.080 I dropped my son off at his Tribeca Aloft and 0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.160 he had a Hampton's bachelor party. So we're getting a 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.319 very quick idea of who these people are. So it 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.600 was just her and her daughter, Emily, who discovered the dad. 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.480 Stabler is talking to Emily, She's like, I was with 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.160 my mom the whole weekend, not by choice. She's such 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.840 a bitch. And this is a daddy's girl. Okay, this 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.840 girl is a daddy's girl. She's like, daddy wanted a 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.920 divorce but she didn't. And Stabler's like why, and he's like, well, 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.200 She's like she wanted to be missus Andrew Harlan. So 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:44.800 that's the victim is Andrew Harlan. Benson asks anyone who'd 0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.640 want to hurt your husband? And she goes define hurt 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.880 like she's so good, and she's basically laughing. She's like, 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.600 take your pick, and then she starts showing Benson this 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.959 frame and it's kind of like an aura frame before 0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.560 the Internet. She just like keeps clicking it open and 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.000 it changed his pictures, like I never really saw anything 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.960 like that. And as she's clicking through it, it's just 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.279 Andrew with the dude, Andrew with the dude, Andrew with 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.400 a dude, like he's with all these muscly dudes. And 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.120 then she's like, oh, this one I actually recognize. He 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.040 used to be our pizza He used to he's our 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.000 pizza guy. He used to deliver us pizza and he 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.920 also just delivered I guess you know. 0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:19.359 So this beIN. 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.279 Benson goes, so your husband was gay, and she goes, 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:27.919 what's more than bisexual, compulsively orgasmic, polymorphously perverse? He would 0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:31.080 have sex with a plant, Like she's giving I mean, 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.200 this is the year two thousand and we're talking about 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:37.279 an absolutely like compulsive guy that's like, this doesn't fall 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:38.600 on the spectrum of gayer strait. 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.640 This guy is just like compulsively sex sexual. Yeah. Yeah. 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.560 So then Benson says one of the best lines in 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.120 SBU history out of nowhere. 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:49.719 I know the moment I heard it, I go, wow, 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.600 Kara is so lucky she gets to say this. 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.640 She goes, do you think there's a reason that that 0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.600 that the purpse sodomized your husband with a banana? And 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.920 I think that one is always on the slide shows 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.560 that like BuzzFeed and random websites that don't even care 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.200 about us for you will do of like the best 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.000 sview lines. And it's like the Captain with the pickle 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.719 and it's the husband with the banana. And then she goes, oh, yeah, 0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.440 he was allergic to bananas. He used to get covered 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.280 in hives. And she's fighting back at giggle. Okay, oh 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:21.960 she was hiding back tears. 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:23.759 I thought it finally hit her that he's dead, and 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.680 she's like a little sad and that it's someone that 0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.880 she knows because of the banana, like it was, but 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:31.880 you think she was wanting to laugh. 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.160 I thought it was a wife who's like, you like 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.800 it fucking weird. You died with a banana up your ass, 0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.440 you fucking wacko. Like I think she's like a little 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:40.920 bit like, well. 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:41.239 There you go. 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.400 Of course he had a fucking banana up his ass, 0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.399 like and then she was like, he used to get 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.160 covered in hives. Like it wasn't like it was an 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.120 anaphylactic alert allergy. It was just kind of like an 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:53.520 allergy allergy. And so I feel like she's kind of like, 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:57.080 oh god, and then she excuses herself to call her 0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.200 son Adam okay, and then we bounced right into the credits. 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.239 And now nothing I love more than a Season one 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.520 squad room. The way they just made it look like 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.759 now they make it look like four people work there, 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.000 and honestly, the way that things. I mean, I was 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.520 about to say, the government keeps shutting things down, but 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.200 police are always funded. So now they make it seem 0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.200 like there's one extra person around. In season one, it 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.720 was like forty people were around and you just happened 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.000 to be getting the conversation between two or three of them. 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.880 So Belzer is like, oh my god, it's so rude. 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.080 How they shoved a banana up this guy's ass, and 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.000 Benson's like, I don't get why the wife would stay 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.040 if she knew her husband was gay, and it's like, Benson, 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.319 I know it's season one, but you know, money rules 0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:40.120 the world. And Cassidy's like looking at the guy from 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.920 the pizza delivery guy from the photo and he's like, 0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.000 I feel like I went to high school with this guy, 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:49.240 Like I know this guy. Like it's like just classic Cassidy, 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.040 not really paying attention to He just keeps being like, 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.960 how do I know the sky? And then whoever inserted 0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:59.080 the banana? They assume knew that he was allergic, but 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.640 that he or she might not have meant to have 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.279 killed him, and I'm like, yeah, I don't know why 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:10.720 that would even be hand in hand because. 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.360 The obos I don't knock him up. Yeah me exactly. 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.000 I don't know why you would say that they could 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:17.560 have absolutely wanted to kill him. So I don't know 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.920 why they come to that conclusion because it's not like 0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:22.120 it's an anaphylactic. 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.120 It's not a death reaction that he has to banana. 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:25.839 It's like what, he's gonna get hived and then then 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.560 you're gonna kill him so hard to get an allergic 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.120 reaction out of a dead man, Belzer says. And then 0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.920 Daddy Craigan wants to know if this was premeditated or 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.480 a sex game gone awry, and why are we so 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.239 sure the wife is innocent? And Stabler's like, she's got 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.320 an alibi and her daughter hates her ass she wouldn't 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.279 lie to protect her. So then Jeffries pops in and 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.719 we love I mean, I like Jeffries this episode. She 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.520 literally does nothing except pop in and go more information, 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.480 like she's just a delivery service for like little tidbits. 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:54.640 In this episode, she. 0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.200 Pops in and goes, well, now I know the reason 0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.040 the wife was so giddy. It's because her husband is 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.239 worth a hundred million dollars, which she and the two 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:05.279 kids are gonna split evenly, So thirty three mil not bad. 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.200 Benson and Stablers, although with a state tax I wonder 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.160 what you end up walking with anyway, still a lot. 0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.000 Benson and Stabler. 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:17.640 Say, I'm sure they've got it figured out all protected. 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.160 You're right, that's absolutely crazy that I would even say that. 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.319 Benson and Stabler are like, it didn't feel like the 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.760 wife had anything to hide, like she had no crocodile tears. 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:30.759 She just seemed very openly kind of antagonistic towards her 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.640 ex husband, and like, there's no I don't think she's lying. Craigan, 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.000 traffic cops, everyone, Jeffries, pull up all his records, his bills, 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.359 Benson is Stabler, go talk to the sun, see if 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:43.719 he knows anything about his dad's dating habits. Then even 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.600 though he traffic cops, everybody, we go to where Cassidy 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.439 and Munch are going, which is not where anyone told 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:49.080 anyone to go. 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:50.400 It's probably got cut. 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.399 But he Now we're at the apartment of Bulldozer, who 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.239 is a classic law and order guy who will not 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.680 stop moving while the police are questioning him. This guy's 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.320 literally moving things from his apartment into a moving truck. 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.279 I don't know if he's a mover or if he's 0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.000 personally moving, but he will not stop actually physically moving 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.120 his body. Cassidy will not drop, Like how do I 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.120 know you? What do I know you from? And he's 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.759 like maybe from my commercials. My banana spot is still 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:18.239 running and Cassidy's like that's it, And it's like, why 0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.040 is it a commercial about a banana? Is that part 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.319 of it. We never go back to that. They never 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.879 go back to that at all. They just say he's 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.359 got a banana spot. Is it a spot? I've never 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.759 in my life seen a commercial for the sale of bananas, 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:31.719 So is it for. 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:35.920 I guess Chiquita Banana? And I come to say, oh yeah, 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:37.240 Oh I wonder. 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.120 I wonder if this Muscley guy was with the a 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:41.320 banana lady in a commercial. 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:42.840 I've doing a huge job to book. 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.960 You're right, the Chiquita Banana is a jingle, but I'm 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.319 like not visualizing the commercial right now, but I will 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.120 look it up later anyway. 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.280 Cassidy's like, that's it. You're the banana guy. Okay. 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.080 So they're like, so, what's your real name and he's like, 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.360 my real name is Bulldozer. That's my stage name. And 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.040 he's like, I'm an make it really big and porn soon. 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.520 And he shows them this glamour shot of him, like 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.520 I want to say headshot, but it's full body or 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.800 three quarter body, and it's him naked with the pizza 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.160 box over is junk, of course, and he's like, I 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.640 just do these cheesy commercials for money, but I was 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.560 born to be in porn and it's like it's the 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.439 year two thousand, Like, commercials are absolutely paying more money 0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:18.960 than porn is. 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:23.040 Don't you think, Like if this is still DVD's, porn 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.200 is huge as well, I would say it was a 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:27.920 different era. 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:30.799 Yeah, yeah, and especially if you get to the top 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:31.400 of your game. 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.120 But you could just be sort of mediocre booking tons 0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.480 of commercials and make a lot of money. Yeah for 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.200 this guy, but porn is his passion. It seems like 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.640 porn is his passion exactly. That's where he sees himself. 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:46.719 That's his that's worn to do it. Yeah, and guess what. 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:47.719 He's available. 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:49.719 He's still looking for a porn talent agent if these 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.200 two cops happened to no one. So they ask him, 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:55.800 why did you break it off with Andrew? And mister 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:57.719 Dozer is like, wow, he didn't pay for the last 0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.759 seven dinners. He gave me nothing, and all he wanted 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.480 to do was have sex. Plus we're both tops, so 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.279 that didn't really work out. So they're like, well, did 0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.800 he give you gifts? And he shows them he's like 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.640 kind of this like sort of heavy medieval handcuff looking 0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.480 device that looks very heavy and like a would have 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.120 to be installed, and he's like, Andrew gave me this 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.239 to practice on and if the wife doesn't want it, 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:20.200 I'll keep. 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.359 It or whatever. So Munch goes, I think she won't 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.759 notice it's missing. So then at the. 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:29.359 Sun Adam Harlan's apartment and this guy's interesting. I looked 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.600 up this actor literally one episode of SVU, two episodes 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:33.720 of Like As the World Turns. 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.919 That's it, that's his whole. I'mdb he's handsome, he looked 0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:37.279 hand thought. I thought I knew who the guy was. 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:37.960 I looked him up. 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:43.560 Anyway, he is yeah, and he's like my dad and 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.239 I They're like, were you and your dad close? And 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.760 he goes, oh, yeah, really close until he started doing 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.279 my girlfriends and then he's like, once he touched them, 0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:54.240 I dumped them. So a recent one was named Becky Sorenson. 0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.120 She's a painter who lives in No Ho. So now 0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:58.719 we go talk to Becky Sorenson and she's played by 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.239 Melissa Sage Miller, who goes on to play eighty A 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:06.600 Jillian Hardwicke in season twelve, who we call White House 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.319 Black Market the most forgettable ADA of all time. The 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.760 fact that I didn't even clock that she looks completely different. 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:14.720 It's really weird. 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:19.600 Like she's blonde, she's I mean, it's twelve years difference 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.680 age also, but she looks very different. 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.440 I think once she's like a redhead. They make her 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:24.960 very plain. 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:30.200 She reminds me of Kardy from America's Next Top Model. 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:37.480 Okay, remember, yes, I do remember, very very yes, very 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:42.640 corn fed Iowa type of gal. Right yeah yeah yeah yeah. 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.319 But made it to the top two. I think she 0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:51.200 should have. Oh she won, she won carried one Melrose, Yeah, 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.200 got it? So honey, and I know everything. 0:44:56.440 --> 0:45:00.640 I know so much stupid shit, it's crazy, it's fun crazy. 0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.479 Oh my god, what about Tyra's hot I was trying. 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:04.640 I was talking to someone. 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:08.399 I was I was tucking to someone about housewives and 0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:10.160 we were like talking, and then she just looked at 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.440 me and went, yeah, I just don't really have the 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.800 kind of memory you have for these scenes. Because she 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.960 would say something, I go absolutely not, do you remember 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.759 this and this moment and this, and she was like, yeah, 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:20.280 I don't. 0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:27.239 I really don't. You're out of your element up. 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:31.480 Okay, So anyway, blonde Becky is telling them how Adam 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.600 was young and he thinks small but there's nothing small 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:36.719 about daddy, okay, gross. 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:37.600 But I saw the guy. 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:39.279 I mean, we didn't see the guy's face, but like 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.440 he just didn't look that hot, even in his leather. 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.400 Like I mean, this blonde girl is very attractive and cool, 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.400 and the set I just like, I don't know because 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.120 the Seventh this reminds me of Seventh Heaven Dad vibes 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.080 or it's like, what, how are you getting to bang? 0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:59.400 I guess rich rich? I forgot rich rich Duah. 0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:01.560 I mean Seventh Heaven Dad. 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.440 By the way, in the context of the episode trade, 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.040 Just in case anyone thinks, so she's. 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:10.320 Just talking about the Seventh No, I'm not just bringing 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:14.080 up like this that pedophile. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:17.680 In trade he's like yeah everyone, but it's also it's yeah, 0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:21.320 it's totally money and confidence. But also she says, Andrew 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.040 was enthusiastic did things to your body that aren't even 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:25.719 in the Kama Sutra, And it's like, I don't know, 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.839 the Kama Sutra seems pretty detailed, but yeah, I don't 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.320 know what that man's coming up with. But they moved 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.560 on after a short and intense, you know if affair. 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:37.520 It was only two weeks that they banged for and 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.600 he's got a short but intense attention span, she says, 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:44.520 and he wasn't into monogamy, not even serial monogamy. And 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.319 it's like, yeah, if you're not into monogamy at all, 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.239 why would you be into one after another monogamy? Like, 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.879 I don't know, he's not into any monogamy. But they 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.200 show her pictures of the men and the only one 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.319 she recognizes is Charlie Poe, and she mentioned something about 0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.120 chartering a boat and she's like Andrew and Charlie Poe like, 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.520 oh my god, Ascondalo, like we can't believe it. So 0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.799 now we're talking to Charlie Poe and he's in a 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.400 little sailor hat and a white outfit, very captain of 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.799 below deck, and he's like flashing a picture of his 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:12.960 family and swearing up and down that he is not 0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.520 attracted to the male gender at all in any way. 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:16.799 And then they're like, like. 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.759 You're wearing a little sailor cap. You're like camp right now, sir, 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.080 You're wearing like truly a little skipper hat. 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:23.920 What is that? Show yea? 0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.000 And he literally can't stop talking about how mask he is. 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:30.000 He's like, don't let this hat fool you. I love 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:33.080 pussy like and they're like they show him a picture 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:34.919 of him and Andrew and they're like, dog, we didn't 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:37.160 come here with no receipts, like come on, and they're like, 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:38.319 we also have nudes of you. 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.200 So okay. So they're showing. 0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:42.480 Him this pick of him with Andrew and they're like, 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:46.480 we also have nudes, babes, So like, let's talk, you know, 0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.879 and he's like, I never did anything. I swear it 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.239 wasn't me. I mean, his lying is really bad. Like 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.239 Benson is like rolling her eyes at how bad this 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.080 guy's lying is. She's like, I don't have the time. 0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.560 And then he's like if you tell my wife and 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.480 they're like, you don't have to tell your wife, just 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.400 like fucking spill it. And then he launches about like 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:05.560 do you know how much it cost to put a 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.840 kid through school in the city, even nursery school. So yeah, 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.279 Andrew liked to sleep with me a few times. I 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.840 never did anything like. He acts like he just laid 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.400 there while this rich guy fucked him, and maybe that 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.799 is what he did, but he's like I just laid there. 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.640 He's like, I just this guy slept with me. Is 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.839 what he would say. I didn't sleep with him, and 0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.200 then he helped pay for my kid's education, So then 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.080 I mean, this guy must have just been hemorrhaging money 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.719 with the amount of people he's fucking and and but 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.440 then these. 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:34.680 Are where the holes show up for me. 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.839 Why is he like he's fucking this sailor and paying 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.120 for his kids' school but he's not fucking He's not 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.480 giving Bulldozer any money, Like, what's going on? Why are 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:46.080 certain people getting money and not? And then the sailor 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:49.480 walks away and Stabler yells how often did you two 0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:52.200 fellows tie each other up? And it's just loud enough 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.319 for his coworkers to hear. So the sailor comes like 0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.920 back and he's like, listen, yes, sometimes we did bondage. 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.960 But the Sailor's like, Andrew like to tie me up 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:03.560 because honestly, I'm ticklish, and he, you know, he just 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.239 wanted me to say still because I'm ticklish that I 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.279 just keep moving, and they're like, shut the fuck up. 0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.200 Benson cuts them off and goes, do you know any 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.399 of the other guys? And she goes and he goes, 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:14.200 what other guys? He goes, what are you talking about 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.080 I was the only one. It was both of our 0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.520 first times. I'm like, okay, dumb ass, go back to 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.560 your talgue boat, like you're dumb. So now at the precinct, 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.279 the gang is stumped. No one fits the profile, like 0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:28.640 everyone's got a clean record, no angry breakups, no motives. 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.919 Everybody just kind of fast and furious banged this rich 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.560 man and then moved off into the night. And Cassidy 0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.600 makes a crack about this for a fifty. 0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.319 Year old, he's got a lot of energy. I mean's 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:43.560 like fucking young girls, young guys, old guys, family, men's 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:44.600 porn star. 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.680 He is out on the town. His wife said he'd 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.480 fuck a plant. You know, he's doing whatever's available and 0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:55.240 looks exciting, and uh, Cassidy makes a crack about guys 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.440 being fifty and he's like, I'm sure munching you and 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.000 Craigan and have good stamina two or whatever. 0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:00.600 Who cares. 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.200 And then Munch points out that this guy spent more 0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:05.480 money on the women than on the men. There's forty 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:09.239 thousand dollars on his bills of on lingerie. Though that 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.200 could be for the guys too, It's hard to tell. 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.040 And then Munch goes, this guy was truly horny, and 0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:14.920 I'm obsessed. 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:16.080 I'm like put it on. 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:20.360 His gravestone, like this guy was and this man was 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:21.240 truly horny. 0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.760 So good. So then wait, I want to remember that forever. 0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:31.240 Let me try to download it. This guy was truly horny. 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:33.439 I mean, maybe that's merch. I don't know. This guy 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.239 was truly horny. Is so good. 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.680 So then again, Jeffries pops in with a little bit 0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:42.200 of information. She goes, Listen, they found a fingerprint in 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.600 the study and it belonged to a Russian woman named 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.319 Sonya Petrovitch. 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.920 She came to the US three years ago green card. 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:52.319 Her profession is listed as something in Russian, which, of 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:56.080 course Munch says that means hooker, which is Munch's word, 0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.520 not mine. Wait, okay, okay, why would her like official 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:05.080 profession be listed in Russian as such slang? Yeah, but 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.080 what it was the word I don't remember. Maybe it 0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:09.640 meant like domestic help or something. I didn't I didn't 0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.040 write it. I couldn't write it down because it was 0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:14.400 just like honestly, they didn't they didn't say it, they 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.040 didn't put it in the subtitles, even like a even 0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:19.880 like a you know what is it called phonetic like 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.319 pronunciation of it, so I didn't bother trying to write 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:25.960 it down. So now top of ac two were at 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.959 the Turkish baths in the East Village with a ponytailed 0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:32.160 Russian guy and he's telling Benson and Stabler you don't 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.400 have to strip, but you have to take off your shoes. 0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.640 And he says, Sonya's been gone a few weeks. She 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.919 met a guy named Victor. Doesn't it go to the cut? 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.160 It goes to my favorite cut of all time. Then 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.960 it's like Benson and Stabler and Adida's slides, and it 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:48.880 just cuts to them wearing Adida slides. 0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.520 Oh my god, you're so right. I did not clock this. 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:54.759 They are wearing the classic Adidas slides that I wore 0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:58.720 in high school every day. I mean, maybe the only 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:01.920 Benson footshot we've ever gotten beside the product boot. And 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.040 even then it's in a shoe. Well, you know, like 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.520 state like we've not seen their feet. We've not seen 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:08.280 their feet before and now. 0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:10.160 At season one, but I don't think we've ever seen 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:14.520 a detective foot Again, I'm putting this on the Instagram. 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.520 If you don't follow our Instagram. Get on over there 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:20.960 because I'm putting it up. So they're sliding through the 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:25.239 Turkish baths with this guy in their slides, and he's like, well, 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:27.520 Sonya used to work here. She's been gone a few weeks. 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:29.840 She met a guy named Victor, said she's in love. 0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:34.080 He's rich, he owns Ecstasy, the hottest spot in Manhattan. 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.640 There's a three month wait less for a facial and 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:38.360 he's pissed this guy. He's like, I gave her a 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.480 good job and she left me for that pig, Victor. 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.720 And he says, Sonya treats men like she's a whore. 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.680 But then he explains that in the US, a whore 0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:50.160 is just a hooker. In Russia, whores are the top 0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.080 of the social scene. Everyone respects them, but they rarely 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:56.719 fall in love. I just don't know true. We're just 0:52:56.760 --> 0:53:04.480 getting into this weird socio like sociological like anthropological definitions 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.760 of like how sex workers are different in different countries, 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:11.560 and like how different women fall in love because of cultures. 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.520 It's it's like I'm listening, I don't know if it's true, 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.759 but like you know, I'm this episode. They're alive and 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:21.480 pretty heavily. This is like the thesis statement of the episode. 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.680 Like this whole episode goes on to be about this. 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:27.040 I know, but it's like, sure, they're at fancy parties 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:31.000 or like rich people have sex workers around, but I like, 0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:34.280 at the end of the day, I feel like someone 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:35.120 might murder them. 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:36.560 Like I don't know if it's. 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:42.720 Actual like actual respect, Like I think they're allowed. 0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:46.480 And it's cool maybe, but it's not like they're I 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:47.439 just don't buy it. 0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:50.319 And because I readie this thing once where Russia had 0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:53.000 a sexual revolution but not a feminist revolution. 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:57.120 And yes, because even in all the episodes we've seen 0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.919 where there's like a high power madam or somebody who's 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:03.440 Russian and she's setting up Russian brides, she still is 0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:06.279 beholden to the scary guy that's gonna murder everybody, you know, 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.439 like she's never the top top top of the food chain. 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.080 But anyway, he. 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.680 Goes American girls fall in love so easily, and I 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.000 don't really give a damn where Sonya is. And then 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:17.719 a guy comes in and we hear the click clack 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.799 of his shoes and he's speaking Russian to ponytail guy 0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:22.960 and they're like, what about his shoes. He's not in 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.640 any fucking Adida slides, and Ponytail's like he's allowed. So 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:28.919 then the cops go with Ponytail into the back room 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.680 at these baths, and I can't tell how much time 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:33.480 has elapsed because I guess the guy that just walked 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:37.520 by is already in the tub. And it's a private 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.680 tub where this nasty looking dude is like soaking with 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:43.440 a girl on each arm and they're like drinking champagne 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.160 and it's supposed to be fancy, but it doesn't look 0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:47.920 fancy to me, Like it looks kind of. 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:51.120 Gross, and I think they've probably filmed it by my house. 0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:54.640 I'm being honest, I know it's disgusting. 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:59.560 Well, they're like, wait, I recognize that guy, and he goes, well, yeah, 0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:01.760 he's one of the most renowned violinists in the world. 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:03.840 And there's because there's a violinist next to the tub 0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:08.440 serenading them, and then they're like, shoes yeah, And then 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.080 they're like, no, no, not him, tub guy, Like the 0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.319 tub guy is the guy we recognize. But Ponytail goes, 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.400 he's a good friend, a respectable businessman, So you know 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:19.960 the answer is not respectable at all. 0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:23.640 Shady as fuck. Okay, So at Ecstasy. 0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.440 Spa, now they're asking to speak to Sonya, but the 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.319 girl at the front is like, oh, Sonia doesn't work 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.640 here anymore, but go to room six and talk to Natasha. 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.560 They were friends. So she makes Benson go alone. I 0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:35.319 don't know what the deal is. There's all kinds of 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:37.440 weird stuff where certain people can talk to people by 0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.319 gender in this episode, so she makes Benson go alone. 0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:43.520 Stablers not allowed. Benson goes to talk to to Natasha. 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:45.960 It's funny. She leaves her little room and she goes, 0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:47.719 I'll be right back, and then suddenly her and Benson 0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:50.920 are strolling on like a gorgeous rooftop Manhattan views like 0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:53.080 you just wanted to step out in the hallway for 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.799 like a quick chat, but they're like having a beautiful 0:55:56.040 --> 0:56:00.160 Manhattan walk. And so She's like, oh, did son is 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:05.920 mafia boyfriend already screw her over? And then Natasha says, Yuri, 0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:09.440 he got her a singing job at this restaurant. We 0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:12.360 used to be friends, me and Sonya. We lived together, 0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:16.880 we got food at Brighton Beach together. But so Benson's like, well, 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:19.160 did she date Victor the guy that owns this place, 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.440 and she's like, yeah, everyone dates Victor. That's how you 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:23.600 get a job here. So it's like, that's not that scandalous. 0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:25.239 And then she's like, why would you even ask that? 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:29.600 Yeah, the like how did you sleep with Craigan to 0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:30.760 get your job? I'm so confused. 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:34.280 And then she's like did she have an American boyfriend 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.400 Andrew Harlan? And Natasha's like, maybe I don't know Andrew. 0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.600 Maybe she met a lot of men. It's why we 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.439 aren't friends anymore. And then she explains that they both 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.600 went to audition at a nightclub. They both sang, and 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:46.920 she goes, it's as simple as this, I have talent. 0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:47.680 She does it. 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.200 She got the job because she was banging Yuri and 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.880 he's connected. So they broke up over an auditioned to 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:55.400 be a singer at a Russian restaurant. 0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:56.880 So you know, I guess. 0:56:56.880 --> 0:57:00.840 Friends come and go at the Moscow Rushturan literally just 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:04.960 called Moscow restaurant in Brighton Beach. A woman is singing 0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:08.319 in Russian. Everyone applauds. She walks off stage and this 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.239 is Sonya. Stabler and Benson are like, can we have 0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:15.840 a word, and she denies knowing Andrew, so Benson jumps 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:18.280 at the chance to refresh her memory and she's like, Babe, 0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:21.400 we found your fingerprint at the study. So enough, and 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.160 this girl went to the same school of lying as 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:27.640 that dumb sailor kid did because she's telling them, oh, 0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:30.880 I cleaned his house. Yeah, the housekeeper needed to fill in. 0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.120 I was doing a favor. We help each other in America, Okay, bitch, 0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:37.480 I don't think we do. But she says the housekeeper 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:39.960 is Katya. She's out of town and she took her passport, 0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:43.120 like it's a very developed lie. And they're like, wow, 0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:46.120 a big star like you cleaning houses. And then they're 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.120 done with the bullshit. They're like about to arrest her 0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.280 if she doesn't tell them where Katya is by tomorrow. 0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:56.480 I don't know, Like this episode is convoluted, like her 0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:58.920 fingerprint was found at a murder scene. You're just like 0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.800 see you later, come tomorrow with more info, like you 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:05.520 would be arresting her, bringing her in for questioning, Like 0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:09.440 I don't know, Like I just don't. That's pretty And 0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:12.440 also it's as easy as a phone call to the wife. 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.640 Do you have a housekeeper named Katya? 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:15.000 You know? 0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.240 So back at the precinct. The guys are all making 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.040 jokes about Sonya being a sex worker. Jeffries is saying 0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:22.960 sleeping her way to the top is the only way 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:23.479 she knows. 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:26.240 And then suddenly Ken Briscoe is there too. 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:31.480 If you'll remember, Jerry Orbach's real life son plays Lenny Briscoe, 0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:36.040 who is I mean, plays Ken brisco who's Lenny Briscoe's nephew. 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:40.040 Lenny Brisco's nephew Ken, who's in a bunch of season 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:42.600 one episodes. And then I guess just didn't make an 0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:44.520 impression and they were like, Jerry, there's nothing else we 0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:44.800 could do. 0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:45.720 Your son's not good. 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.800 So he gets he's not on the show anymore, but 0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:52.000 he goes so all Russian girls are whores, and it's like, yeah, 0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:55.280 nobody said that, Like they literally just said it's the 0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:57.320 only way of life they know. And he's like, so 0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:01.080 they're all horrors, Like it's just crazy. It feels like 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.360 so much dialogue has been cut out or something in 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.000 this episode, and Benson reminds them, like, guys, think about 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:10.800 what these girls have been through, poverty, corruption, drunken abuse. 0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:12.880 They learn they have to lie that their bodies their 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:16.520 only asset, that sex is money, and Cassidy goes so 0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:17.920 by doing the right guy, they end up in the 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.200 Forbes Ski five hundred, like such a dork. 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:21.040 He's such a dork. 0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:25.480 Munch points out that Russia was actually jealous of the 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:29.000 US during the Clinton Lewinsky scandal because they would say 0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:31.320 stuff like we wish we had such a virile president, 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.960 Like they respected that he was hooking up with a 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:36.760 twenty two year old in the Oval office. 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:37.480 You know. 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:41.080 Yeah, so Americans think it's just about being a whore. 0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.880 The Russians know that there's always a little commerce involved 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:47.880 in the art of love. That's what Munch says, again 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:52.919 another sort of thesis statement to this episode. Jeffries hangs 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.200 up the phone. Guess what she's got more info? The 0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:59.920 Harlan's housekeeper. The Harlan's housekeeper, not out of town, not Russian, 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.160 not named Katya, never works weekends. 1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:03.640 Like not a detail is correct. 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.880 So now they have Sonya in cement room bars and 1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:09.960 like the fact that she didn't just disappear is crazy, 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:11.840 Like she does not need to talk to the cops, 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:16.320 Like and she denies knowing anything, and she's like, even 1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.840 if I could tell you, you wouldn't understand. I see how 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:21.280 you look at me, you look down at what I 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:23.720 do for a living. And it's fully a monologue. This 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:25.880 girl does not stop and let anyone talk for five minutes. 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:28.840 She goes, it's exciting to do something forbidden. I'm with 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:31.240 men who are breaking promises to their wives, and that 1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:33.720 excites them. They come alive. I make them come alive. 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.840 I'm their freedom. The monologue's too much for me. She's like, 1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:38.880 I'm so grateful. I don't work in a spa or 1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:42.240 a salon. My only commitment is to my friends. And 1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:46.200 they assume she's talking about Katya. I assume Katya is invented. Like, 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.280 I can't believe. We're all like, there's got to be 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:51.000 a Katya. She invented a Katya. She invented a cleaning 1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:52.880 lady named Katya. I don't know why we think Katya 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:57.200 is real. And Sonya's like, look, I'm worried people will know. 1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.960 I talk to the cops and they're like, well, where 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.920 there's Katya again. I don't know why we think that's 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:05.560 a real person. She's like, Katya lives with her boyfriend. 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.120 I live with my aunt. And she goes, it affords 1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:10.800 me a certain. It's like she does not speak like 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:13.760 she just like doesn't speak like a real person to me, 1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:19.400 Like she goes it affords me a certain freedom. Yes, 1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:22.720 like it's like a weird the way that anyway, she 1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:25.240 doesn't know who Katya is dating. At the moment, Craigan 1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:27.840 walks in and tells Elliott, Hey, Emily Harlan is here 1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:30.280 to see you. So now we're in wood room blinds 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:33.919 and Emily is telling Elliott how her dad always fell 1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:36.640 in love really easily. He loved being in love. And 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:38.840 she has a very babyish voice, and she looks familiar 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:40.600 and I looked drop. Her name is Alison Munn and 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:44.440 she does play Fez's crazy girlfriend Caroline on that seventies show. 1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:45.800 It's a very. 1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:48.840 Distinct character because like every time Fez looks, this girl's 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.600 like hi, Fez, like and it's this girl and she's 1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:54.960 I like her in that show. So she's baby voice 1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:57.160 talking to I cannot tell how old she is here. 1:01:57.240 --> 1:01:59.400 She's like, my dad left all these files for me, 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:01.880 and so like. 1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:06.680 She's helpful. Yeah, she's like all that stuff my dad. 1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:10.080 Did, like fucking a thousand women and men, was all 1:02:10.120 --> 1:02:11.800 a cry for help. But my mom could never reach 1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:13.000 out to him. It's like, Babe, I think it's a 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:15.280 little bit more compulsive than that. Like, I don't know, 1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:17.440 maybe you're sixteen. I don't think you really understand that 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:22.440 your mom's not the issue here. But she says, She 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:24.760 says her mom didn't really care about the affairs if 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:26.400 they were with guys, but then when he fell in 1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:28.680 love with Katya, they started fighting constantly. 1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:30.480 Her name is Katya Ivanova. 1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:33.520 This could have been where we find out that Katya 1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:35.520 is a real person, Like this is like, okay, now 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:37.480 this is a real person who's connected to this guy. 1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:42.000 She is Russian. My father said she's very beautiful. Mom 1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:45.840 calls her his Russian whore. And after my dad died, 1:02:45.920 --> 1:02:49.880 I got a bunch of papers. Yeah, so clever literally 1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:54.200 after the fun nickname she came up with Russian. Right. 1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:59.200 Her dad had told her something happens to me. I 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:01.160 have all these papers in my office. Go check out 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.080 the papers. And so she went and got the papers. 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.360 She's like, I didn't really find much, but one thing 1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:08.200 is interesting. It looks like daddy was suing Katya for 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:11.000 a lot. Cut to Kraigan going, he's suing her for 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:13.600 two million now, that's what I call a motive. 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:15.160 And that's apparently the. 1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:17.800 Value of the gifts he gave her that she kept 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:19.920 after their five month affair ended. 1:03:20.400 --> 1:03:22.880 Now he broke it off forever, shut the fuck up. 1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:23.920 You can't sue forgive me. 1:03:24.000 --> 1:03:26.880 But also, this man is worth like one hundred million dollars. 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:31.240 I seriously doubt that he's going to sue a Russian 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:34.880 woman who was his like for gifts, Like, I don't know, 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:37.360 that doesn't like make sense in this man's world to me. 1:03:37.440 --> 1:03:41.200 He's paying for random sailor preschool. He's paying for probably 1:03:41.240 --> 1:03:43.720 bulldozer to get his head shots before he cut him off. 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:46.680 Like he's paying for all this shit. I guess maybe 1:03:46.800 --> 1:03:48.880 her gifts were more valuable. It just doesn't make a 1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:52.800 lot of sense to me. But apparently like she kept 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:55.560 all these gifts after their five month affair ended because 1:03:55.600 --> 1:03:57.480 he broke it off when he found out she was 1:03:57.600 --> 1:04:00.040 cheating in the apartment that he was paying for. I 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:01.680 don't know how they got all that information, but that 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:02.720 they have all this information. 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:06.880 But the morning, isn't she like a sex worker? Yes? 1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:11.640 But these guys they they she convinced, is these guys that. 1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:13.240 They that they're really in love with them, Like, yes, 1:04:13.280 --> 1:04:15.200 I'm a sex worker, but you I really love you, know. 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:21.280 So yeah, So the morning after he was killed Andrew Harlan, 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:24.760 the lawsuit was dropped by Missus Harlan. So they're like, well, 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:26.880 it sounds like they were in cahoots. They got to 1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:29.200 find Katya and missus Harlan might know where she is. 1:04:29.840 --> 1:04:33.080 At the Harlan home. Christina Harlan, that body is not 1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:36.160 even in the ground, and she is redecorating baby. She's like, 1:04:36.280 --> 1:04:38.400 I always wanted to put a little Russian red in here. 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:41.480 I mean, she doesn't say Russian, she says red. Oh. 1:04:41.800 --> 1:04:44.160 She's like, I've always wanted to put more red in here. 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:45.800 And it's like, yeah, I bet you didn't want to 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:48.080 do that while your husband was fucking a Russian woman, 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:49.040 but now you're free to do what you. 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:53.280 Read remind me of mister big Oh. 1:04:53.360 --> 1:04:55.480 Yes, I had a red accent wall in my New 1:04:55.560 --> 1:04:59.840 York apartment, one red wall. I loved it. But you know, 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:03.280 it is kind of crazy. So then they're asking her 1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:06.040 about the affair. Why didn't you tell us You literally 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:08.400 showed us an old timey or a frame of all 1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:11.040 the men He's fucked, and like, why aren't you telling 1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:13.440 us about Katya? Like we think you're covering for her? 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:16.400 And she goes me covering for that little bitch? How 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:18.480 would you feel if your husband fell head over heels 1:05:18.480 --> 1:05:21.360 for a Russian whore? And then she goes onto a 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:25.600 monologue they're everywhere, These are Russian women sucking the men dry, 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:28.800 not only their money but their sanity. You never heard 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:32.000 of the ultra Natasha's And I just like googled that 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:34.480 because I was like, is that a thing? But if 1:05:34.520 --> 1:05:38.400 you look up ultra Natasha, it's literally some woman's makeup line, 1:05:38.440 --> 1:05:41.880 So I don't know where that's coming from. But she goes, 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:44.320 did you know that Katya is Russian slang for one 1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:45.120 hundred dollars? 1:05:45.240 --> 1:05:47.720 Is that true? Not that I know of. But I'm 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:50.760 just like a girl. You know, you're just a girl. Okay. 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:53.800 My parents taught me the slang on what a you know, 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:58.840 like a hooker's katya that were children, Like, I went, 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:02.080 I knew a Katya? Yeah, a fun name that I like, 1:06:02.360 --> 1:06:04.640 But I'm not I'm not putting it past. 1:06:04.440 --> 1:06:06.560 The immediately thought it would be a fun tidbit to 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:11.959 tell Katya the drag quen obviously, like you know she would. 1:06:12.080 --> 1:06:13.840 She speaks Russian too. Yeah. 1:06:13.920 --> 1:06:17.840 So this woman, this woman, Christina Harlan, she does not 1:06:18.040 --> 1:06:24.160 like Russian. Hole filthy. They're so filthy. Oh yeah, I 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:27.400 don't know if anyone is more filthy. Sometimes it comes 1:06:27.440 --> 1:06:29.120 on when I just turned the car on and the 1:06:29.200 --> 1:06:30.560 kids are there, I'm like, I got to turn this off. 1:06:30.560 --> 1:06:32.240 They're literally talking about like gaping assholes. 1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:33.280 I will not believe it. 1:06:33.360 --> 1:06:37.360 So me in this comic, Caitlin, we're sitting at the 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:40.280 cellar table big deal, guys. So we're in the back 1:06:40.920 --> 1:06:43.040 and there's like people at the bar that I guess 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:44.160 were at the earlier. 1:06:43.840 --> 1:06:45.400 Show that Kaitlyn went up at. 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:48.960 We're sitting Suddenly this old man like like a meatball 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:54.200 of a man, but like an Andrew Dice Clay vibe, like. 1:06:53.800 --> 1:06:56.560 Just kind of a grease ball, a greaseball. 1:06:56.640 --> 1:06:59.240 And he turns around, he looks at Kaitlin and goes, 1:07:00.160 --> 1:07:02.480 you have a good pussy or like what about that? 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:07.320 Something like insane, and and it's it's also not busy, 1:07:07.360 --> 1:07:09.440 so it's like pretty dead. So everyone's kind of just 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:12.440 like in shock. And then he goes, ah, my daughter's mad. 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:15.080 I said that what what's the big deal. She talked 1:07:15.120 --> 1:07:18.560 about it for like three hours and Caitlyn looks at me. 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:19.760 She goes, I did one joke. 1:07:20.000 --> 1:07:22.400 It was my closer, she goes, and I know, I 1:07:22.400 --> 1:07:25.280 know it happens all the time, but it was crazy. 1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:27.920 And then he came over. I think his he goes, 1:07:28.280 --> 1:07:30.720 I understand it was material. What I said was out 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:34.640 of context, like it was, he goes, but then he goes. 1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:35.600 But I you know, I was. 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:37.680 I grew up around the seventies and we said whatever 1:07:37.800 --> 1:07:38.520 we wanted. 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:41.160 And it's like you can, but like it's fucking weird. 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:45.880 Yeah you can, but people can hate you for it too. Yeah. 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:47.960 To go up to someone and be like you got 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:52.080 that good pussy, it was like so great, loud, like 1:07:52.520 --> 1:07:54.440 so nuts, Oh my. 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:57.480 God, not a not a freedom of speech, old grease 1:07:57.520 --> 1:08:00.240 ball coming up to you. 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:02.800 Because I'm sorry to mean too. And she's like, oh, 1:08:02.880 --> 1:08:04.920 she was really nice. I wonder if I would have 1:08:04.920 --> 1:08:06.640 been as nice. I think I would have gone you. 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:13.280 I just went, like, my job truly dropped to this floor. 1:08:13.800 --> 1:08:15.680 And I'm not a prude, I don't feel but I 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:19.840 looked and I was just like I was shocked. I 1:08:19.920 --> 1:08:20.919 was truly shocked. 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:22.639 That is shocking. 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:30.200 Yeah, yeah, Christina Harlan hates Katya hates Russian women, like 1:08:30.280 --> 1:08:32.519 she's like, no one else is fucking my husband except 1:08:32.560 --> 1:08:34.960 Russian women. And it's like, I don't know, ma'am. It 1:08:34.960 --> 1:08:38.120 seems like the little artist downtown not Russian. She was 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:42.160 fucking her husband for two weeks. So Adam is there too, 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:44.840 the sun and he's like, yesterday afternoon, my mom drove 1:08:44.880 --> 1:08:48.360 me to a poetry convention. What what's a poetry convention? 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:51.800 Is that a thing? I'm sure there forever? I mean 1:08:51.840 --> 1:08:56.320 there's but like conventions are like to me specifically about commerce. 1:08:56.439 --> 1:09:00.120 Usually like there could be poetry like like meet up 1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:03.400 send like conferences and stuff, but like a convention, people 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:05.519 set up booths and what like sell their poetry. Like, 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:09.240 what is a poetry convention? It's confusing to me. But 1:09:09.560 --> 1:09:11.519 he's the one. Somebody let me know. I'm sure our 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:13.439 listeners one of you who has been to a poetry convention. 1:09:13.840 --> 1:09:16.160 And he's the one. Uh, he goes, I'm the one 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:18.120 that told my mom to drop the suit. I didn't 1:09:18.120 --> 1:09:20.760 think she should keep it going. And then we find 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:24.000 out that he was paying for Katya's ten k a month, 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:26.679 two bedroom apartment. She doesn't know where it is. Check 1:09:26.720 --> 1:09:29.920 with my lawyers. She's already checked out of this conversation. Okay, 1:09:30.360 --> 1:09:32.680 So now we go to Kragan and he's getting a 1:09:32.680 --> 1:09:34.840 phone call from an upset Russian woman and he can't 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:37.080 understand what she's saying, so he puts her on the 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:39.760 phone with Munch, who speaks a little Russian. He says 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:41.920 some shit in Russian, and then he goes, that was 1:09:41.920 --> 1:09:44.400 Sonya Petrovitch And it's like, you mean, the woman who 1:09:44.439 --> 1:09:47.080 just did a full monologue about the delicious power of 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:49.479 helping men cheat on their wives. She can suddenly only 1:09:49.520 --> 1:09:53.320 speak Russian, Like why she cannot get her thought across 1:09:53.320 --> 1:09:56.080 to picture k Reagan And so I think it's again 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:58.560 an excuse for Munch to like speak some Russian on 1:09:58.920 --> 1:10:02.599 the show. And she's upset. She's in Brighton Beach. Munch 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:05.120 and Cassidy head out there. They get to this Brighton 1:10:05.160 --> 1:10:08.679 Beach apartment complex. There's a woman cleaning the stairs. It's 1:10:08.840 --> 1:10:11.360 very like old world seeming like this woman just has 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:13.040 like a mop and a bucket cleaning the stairs. And 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:16.519 then there's fucking bloody footprints on the ground going right 1:10:16.560 --> 1:10:18.800 up to the door of the apartment and they open 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:21.760 it and Sonya is lying, they're dead, and her aunt 1:10:21.840 --> 1:10:23.400 I'm assuming because she said she lives with her aunt. 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:26.080 There's like an older woman dead. They're both lying they're dead. Bloody, 1:10:26.439 --> 1:10:29.400 Cassidy goes, I better tell Baboosh gotta stop washing the stairs. 1:10:29.479 --> 1:10:33.040 I mean, it's like, what's happening. Cassidy has all these 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:38.000 like cheesy Russian jokes, but anyway, top of actory, Benson 1:10:38.040 --> 1:10:41.519 and Stablers show up. Cassidy makes a gross comment about 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:43.720 making love with a hatchet, and Munch is like, this 1:10:43.800 --> 1:10:47.040 is not sex related, and Munch talks to Sonya's male 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:50.320 cousin who comes out. He only speaks Russian. He invites 1:10:50.360 --> 1:10:52.640 them to a bar to drink and talk. They go, 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:56.760 They ask them about Sonya's friends. He actually happens to 1:10:56.760 --> 1:10:58.840 have a picture of his cousin Sonya and all her 1:10:58.880 --> 1:11:01.960 pals as you carry on you uh, and Katya is 1:11:02.000 --> 1:11:04.679 in the picture, okay, So he's like pointing out that's Katya, 1:11:04.960 --> 1:11:07.479 and he offers them some Borshe okay, but they've got 1:11:07.520 --> 1:11:11.400 to go, And that's the first time we've finally seen Katya, okay, 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:13.760 and she does look a lot like Sonya. 1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:17.280 It's like hard, why would they? That was hard for me? 1:11:17.760 --> 1:11:23.160 Yeah, And then at the precinct, Craigan is asking questions 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:27.160 like okay, so one victim strangled a two acts to death. 1:11:27.240 --> 1:11:29.840 But why Sonya? Why the aunt? 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:33.280 And they're like, well, Sonya called and sounded nervous, and 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:35.840 then in barges in this guy out of nowhere and 1:11:35.880 --> 1:11:39.000 he's like Benson Stobbler, Like that made me laugh? How 1:11:39.000 --> 1:11:41.840 he says Stobbler and he's like, I have information for you. 1:11:42.200 --> 1:11:44.559 So now he's in cement room bars, pouring his heart 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:47.680 out to Benson and Stabler and talking about his scumbag 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:50.000 dad who constantly cheated on his mind. 1:11:50.080 --> 1:11:53.120 This is like the most sickening thing. I hate this. 1:11:53.400 --> 1:11:55.920 I hate He's like my dad cheated on my mom 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:59.719 in the same room as her, constantly treated her like shit. 1:12:00.280 --> 1:12:02.519 She was devoted to him through it all. She went 1:12:02.560 --> 1:12:05.880 with him to Siberia. That's real love. It's like that's 1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:10.920 indentured servitude, Like that's slavery essentially, Like she probably couldn't 1:12:10.960 --> 1:12:14.640 go anywhere else, your fucking mom. And then he's like 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:16.720 that's real love. So it's like, why is this man 1:12:16.840 --> 1:12:18.880 just like randomly talking about like your. 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:19.320 Wife, like. 1:12:21.160 --> 1:12:23.000 The room like it is. I don't know why you're 1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:25.080 not more mad at your dad, Like that's crazy. 1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:26.800 Well it's like this. 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:30.040 Yeah, it's like classic gross, like men can be as 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:32.240 bad as they want and women are only virtuous if 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:34.599 they sit through all of it. And he's like, you're 1:12:34.600 --> 1:12:36.559 trying to blame Katya, but I won't let you. And 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.800 this actor is named Olek Krupa. He's Polish. He's in 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:43.479 a million things. He's he's Victor Zukov, the general in 1:12:43.520 --> 1:12:47.920 the Americans. So I think he plays a Russian guy 1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:51.320 a lot, but he is Polish. And he confesses right 1:12:51.360 --> 1:12:54.160 there to the cops that he killed Andrew. He said, 1:12:54.200 --> 1:12:56.800 I killed him for treating Katya like that. My name 1:12:56.840 --> 1:13:01.000 is Alexander streets Off strews Off and and he brought 1:13:01.040 --> 1:13:04.080 Katya to the US, he arranged everything. She's like family 1:13:04.120 --> 1:13:06.040 to him. He loves her so much and he is 1:13:06.080 --> 1:13:10.000 devoted to her. And when Andrew sued her, he saw 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:11.920 her pain and he had to end it. And it's 1:13:11.960 --> 1:13:14.519 like her pain, like she could have just given back 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.080 the gifts. I mean, if it's really gonna be a 1:13:16.120 --> 1:13:19.200 lawsuit that you're gonna lose the gifts could just go 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:21.479 back right, like, it's not life or death. 1:13:21.600 --> 1:13:24.000 I just don't trust this guy. I don't get what's happening. 1:13:23.960 --> 1:13:26.160 And this is where the show really goes off the rails. 1:13:26.160 --> 1:13:29.000 For me, it goes off the It's really hard for me. 1:13:29.280 --> 1:13:32.880 I can't I don't know. This episode gets so fucking nuts. 1:13:33.280 --> 1:13:35.280 So then he lights a cigarette. 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:37.840 He starts smoking a cigarette, stablers like stop and then 1:13:37.880 --> 1:13:40.040 he just like chokes down a couple more puffs before 1:13:40.080 --> 1:13:42.559 he puts it away. And then he says, I shot 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:45.880 Andrew and they're like, yeah, bro, he wasn't shot, and 1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:47.320 he's like, shot, not shot? 1:13:47.400 --> 1:13:49.599 Who cares? I did it? I killed him like a dog. 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:51.200 And then he says. 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:55.240 He says he knows Sonya when they ask do you 1:13:55.280 --> 1:13:57.519 know Sonya and he goes yeah, and they're like did 1:13:57.520 --> 1:13:59.880 you know she was murdered this morning? And he's like no, 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:03.360 oh no, how tragic, and he says, well, I didn't 1:14:03.400 --> 1:14:04.879 kill Sonya, but I killed Andrew. 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:06.360 Okay whatever. 1:14:07.120 --> 1:14:08.960 In a walk and Talk with Craigan, the gang is 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:11.719 discussing why is this dude confessing when he obviously didn't 1:14:11.720 --> 1:14:14.360 do it. He's in love with Katya she's not into him. 1:14:14.360 --> 1:14:17.240 Maybe he thinks that confession will win her over. 1:14:18.200 --> 1:14:20.120 Hope. Sometimes that's all love is. 1:14:20.160 --> 1:14:23.320 They say, let's go find this Katya, but like Benson 1:14:23.400 --> 1:14:27.000 keeps saying Katya, Katya the way she says it. But 1:14:27.760 --> 1:14:31.160 next scene is an Upper east Side doorman and you 1:14:31.280 --> 1:14:33.479 know Upper east Side doorman's love a Katya. 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:33.880 Okay. 1:14:33.960 --> 1:14:36.679 He's like, oh, she's beautiful, she's a nice, honest girl, 1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:41.120 big tipper and he recognizes a picture of Andrew Harlan. 1:14:42.000 --> 1:14:44.599 He's here all the time and he's a really big tipper, 1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:46.320 but I haven't seen him in a few weeks. And 1:14:47.080 --> 1:14:49.640 he tells them Katya left an hour ago, dressed up 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:52.200 in a beautiful gown, and they're like, well, which way 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:54.800 did the cab go? As if they're gonna be able 1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:57.200 to track her down by northeast southwest and they're like, 1:14:57.360 --> 1:15:00.320 cab she takes a car service and he goes five 1:15:00.360 --> 1:15:04.000 five five oh one zero zero, the easiest number to remember. 1:15:04.080 --> 1:15:07.439 I don't know why, uh, And so I guess through 1:15:07.479 --> 1:15:09.600 the car service we've tracked her down. She's at the 1:15:09.640 --> 1:15:10.559 Peninsula Hotel. 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:11.320 Uh. 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:15.479 And that's like near penn Station, right. Benson and Stabler 1:15:15.560 --> 1:15:18.719 tracked down Katya. She's holding a cigarette giving the cops 1:15:18.760 --> 1:15:21.160 a slutty grin as they approach her, Like she is 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:24.559 really looking unbothered and horny. 1:15:24.640 --> 1:15:27.720 Okay. They're asking her about her affair with Harlan and she. 1:15:27.680 --> 1:15:31.400 Immediately asked She immediately asked, stabler, are you attracted to me? 1:15:31.520 --> 1:15:32.960 Do you want to make love to me? 1:15:33.120 --> 1:15:36.879 It's so weird, like why are you being so sexual 1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:39.000 to this random cop? But I guess they're trying to 1:15:39.000 --> 1:15:43.200 say in Russia, that's what you do. But he's like, uh, 1:15:43.600 --> 1:15:46.240 why don't you just answer my questions? And she's like, 1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:48.640 why don't you answer mine first? And he's like, well, 1:15:48.640 --> 1:15:50.439 what's that gonna cost me? And she's like, you're a 1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:52.960 broke ass cop, you cannot afford me. I think she's 1:15:53.000 --> 1:15:54.880 honestly like, I actually just like think you're hot and 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:56.439 would fuck you, but I know you're not gonna give 1:15:56.439 --> 1:16:00.800 me anything I need. She wants to know if oh, 1:16:00.800 --> 1:16:03.760 who sent you his wife Christina? And then they tell 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:05.880 her about Sonya, like did you know Sonya's dead? And 1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:08.920 she goes, I know. I'm very sad. She was a 1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:11.040 good friend, but I have to move on with my life. 1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:13.680 It's been hours. Okay, it's been hours since Sonya was 1:16:13.680 --> 1:16:16.760 brutally hatcheted to death in her apartment. And she's like, 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:18.559 you know, I'm so sad, but I had to get 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:21.680 dressed and come to this party. And she's like, I 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:23.360 don't know what. Who would want to kill her? She 1:16:23.520 --> 1:16:25.840 was innocent? And they're like, well, you need to come 1:16:25.840 --> 1:16:27.400 with us, and she's like, well, am I under arrest. 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:29.760 I do respect her for knowing her rights. And they're like, 1:16:29.800 --> 1:16:31.400 well no, and she goes, well then I say no, 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:34.000 and Benson goes, well, you better get your ass down 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:36.320 to the precinct tomorrow morning and wear sweats because it's 1:16:36.320 --> 1:16:38.599 going to take a long time. And she goes, I'm 1:16:38.640 --> 1:16:41.559 too busy, and she's I fucking stabler like the whole time, 1:16:41.800 --> 1:16:45.080 and Benson's over this shit. She's like, babe, nine am, 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:47.280 you're down at our office or immigration's at your house 1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:49.400 by nine oh five, and she goes, this is America. 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:50.919 You can't do this. Lol. 1:16:51.800 --> 1:16:54.760 They absolutely can and do, and Benson goes, hate to 1:16:54.760 --> 1:16:56.759 break it to you, but cops are the same everywhere. 1:16:56.800 --> 1:16:59.120 And Katya's like, okay, but can we make it noon. 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:02.200 I'm not a morning person. They really are giving her 1:17:02.200 --> 1:17:05.519 a lot of leeway, a lot of time away. She goes, 1:17:05.560 --> 1:17:07.280 I might not even be home by nine. 1:17:07.439 --> 1:17:09.280 It's like, okay, babe, if you've got to meet with 1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:11.439 the cops in the morning, maybe call it a night early, 1:17:11.560 --> 1:17:11.760 you know. 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:14.600 Now we're in wood room blinds. 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:16.519 The next day with Katya and she's back on her bullshit, 1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:18.439 trying to smoke a cigarette in the room and then 1:17:18.479 --> 1:17:20.240 she's like, well, then I'm gonna go if I can't smoke, 1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:22.880 because I can't talk without smoking, And Sabler puts out 1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:24.519 her butt in a coffee cup and moves on with 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:26.280 the questions, and she's still. 1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:27.759 Flirting with him. Are you married? 1:17:28.760 --> 1:17:31.200 And they ask about Alexander, who is this guy who 1:17:31.240 --> 1:17:33.960 confessed and she's like, oh, he's a nice man, good heart, 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:37.920 very generous, and they're like, well he confessed to Andrew's murder, 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.880 and she goes, oh, yeah, he's always had a bad temper. 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:43.320 She's just like moving with the story, you know, like 1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:46.280 whatever wherever the wind takes her, she's going for it. 1:17:46.640 --> 1:17:48.720 And they tell her, well, he actually didn't do it, 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:52.479 and we found your fingerprint and Sonya's fingerprint, and she goes, well, 1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:55.080 I wore gloves and they're like, okay, so you admit 1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:56.840 that you were there, and she goes, yeah, I didn't 1:17:56.840 --> 1:17:59.120 want to break a nail on all that BDSM gear. 1:17:59.720 --> 1:18:03.040 She's says, me and Sonya went to Andrew's house to 1:18:03.120 --> 1:18:06.080 tease him. No one gets away with treating me like 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.960 he did. I let him tie me up so many times. 1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:12.000 And then he sues me he appreciated nothing I did 1:18:12.040 --> 1:18:15.040 for him. So they're like, yeah, but you cheated on him, right, 1:18:15.120 --> 1:18:18.519 and he goes, I cheated on him. He I found 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:22.080 him in bed with two men. And it's like, okay, 1:18:22.160 --> 1:18:25.160 so he cheated on you and then sued you for 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:27.400 the two million dollars. Like none of this is like 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:30.240 making sense to me, And then she goes, I thought 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:34.599 he was moamous exactly. So then if he's gonna give 1:18:34.640 --> 1:18:36.720 two million dollars worth of gifts, I don't think he's 1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:39.920 expecting anything in return, like expecting them back if they 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:42.360 don't get married, you know what I mean. But it's 1:18:42.360 --> 1:18:44.800 confusing because then the daughters like, he really fell in 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:46.920 love with Katya, So what is it, Like does this 1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:51.320 guy hate monogamy or does Katya have something that he 1:18:51.360 --> 1:18:53.880 really fell in love with like, I don't know, but 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:57.000 either way, you went to the home of a man 1:18:57.040 --> 1:18:59.160 who was suing you, so he's obviously mad at you 1:18:59.200 --> 1:19:00.640 and you're mad at him, and you, guys are just 1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:03.120 gonna he likes sex that much and he's just gonna 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:03.880 still fuck around. 1:19:03.920 --> 1:19:06.559 Maybe maybe, yeah, for sure. Yeah. 1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:09.719 So they're like, why did you bring Sonia and she goes, sometimes, 1:19:09.720 --> 1:19:12.240 we did threesome. You should try it. It's fun, and 1:19:12.240 --> 1:19:15.200 then she goes, I'm not lesbian. Neither is Sonya. She 1:19:15.360 --> 1:19:18.679 admired me. She was very feminine. But two men yet, 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:21.160 so she's finding time to be homophobic, like she can't. 1:19:21.520 --> 1:19:23.960 She's like, yes, I'll do a threesome, but two men 1:19:24.000 --> 1:19:26.080 with my sugar daddy's not okay with me. 1:19:26.520 --> 1:19:29.120 And they're like, well, yeah, you weren't. You weren't really crying. 1:19:28.920 --> 1:19:31.559 Over his death, and she's like, I need to be 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:33.840 stable in my life, so I have to sleep with 1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:36.120 men like him, then I can be free to fall 1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:41.639 in love without a business interest and okay. So after 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:45.640 they were done teasing Andrew quote unquote, she went to 1:19:45.720 --> 1:19:49.040 hear Sonya sing and meet a friend, she said, and 1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:51.920 they're like, okay, did you put the banana up Andrew's ass, 1:19:51.960 --> 1:19:55.080 and she goes, yes, he's allergic to bananas. But if 1:19:55.080 --> 1:19:59.280 that killed him, it was an honest mistake. It's bizarre, 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:02.400 like you left him chained up there with a banana 1:20:02.479 --> 1:20:04.599 up his ass, which would have like tortured him because 1:20:04.600 --> 1:20:07.840 he would have gotten hives all over. But then his 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:10.000 wife was out of town, like he was just gonna 1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:12.880 like sit there the whole weekend, like tied tied to 1:20:14.479 --> 1:20:16.720 in all of his BDSM gear, like I don't know 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:21.320 what's happening. So now they're in Kragan's office and he's spiraling. 1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:25.559 He's like, cabaret spas, salons, rich boyfriends, hookers, what's going on? 1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:28.719 And then he's He's like maybe it's the Russian mob 1:20:29.080 --> 1:20:31.920 And Benson's like, yeah, but what is the big deal 1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:34.840 about this Katya girl? Like this guy was so rich 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:37.360 he could have had anyone like why her? You know, 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:41.040 like he could have honestly probably stayed with Becky the 1:20:41.200 --> 1:20:43.360 art girl and brought her around to all his little 1:20:43.360 --> 1:20:45.360 parties and been like how hot is it that I'm 1:20:45.439 --> 1:20:47.720 fucking this twenty four year old artist that used to 1:20:47.720 --> 1:20:48.800 be my son's girlfriend. 1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:53.080 But that is the pro Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you 1:20:53.120 --> 1:20:55.720 can't fin and that's true. 1:20:56.080 --> 1:20:59.400 Yeah, there's no, there's no you cannot fake experience. 1:20:59.439 --> 1:21:00.360 So true. 1:21:01.040 --> 1:21:05.599 So Stabler goes, well, maybe the girlfriend of a Russian 1:21:05.640 --> 1:21:08.800 mobster has a certain Juni se qua and then they 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:11.439 like all start joking about French it's boring. And then 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:14.240 Craigan goes go back to the place where Sonya was 1:21:14.240 --> 1:21:16.439 a singer and find out what her boyfriend, the owner's 1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:16.920 deal is. 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.679 Okay, this guy Victor. Okay. 1:21:20.640 --> 1:21:25.240 Back at Moscow restaurants, where there's so many locations in 1:21:25.280 --> 1:21:27.519 the early seasons too, they're like going here and there, 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:29.880 Like they go all the way to her apartment just 1:21:29.880 --> 1:21:31.720 to talk to a doorman so he can go She's 1:21:31.760 --> 1:21:33.840 not here, you know, Like it's like they do. 1:21:33.920 --> 1:21:34.960 So many locations. 1:21:35.400 --> 1:21:39.000 So back at Moscow, the bartender goes, poor, poor Sonya, 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:41.200 what can I get you to drink? Like everyone is 1:21:41.400 --> 1:21:44.640 very Russian about this. They're just like, let's move on, 1:21:45.040 --> 1:21:47.880 like we were not talking about the dead girl, what 1:21:47.880 --> 1:21:48.080 do you. 1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:49.439 Let's get a drink. 1:21:49.240 --> 1:21:51.880 In you, okay, and then a guy walks up to 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:55.519 Benson and Stabler and goes, please join me, and they're 1:21:55.560 --> 1:21:58.559 like sure, So they go back to the back of 1:21:58.600 --> 1:22:01.599 the place where the gross guy from the hot tub 1:22:01.640 --> 1:22:05.479 earlier is sitting at a table. I'm guessing this is Victor, 1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:10.160 the guy who also owns the club, right, we didn't 1:22:10.160 --> 1:22:11.760 know his name was Victor before. He's like never been 1:22:11.800 --> 1:22:15.000 identified as Victor. Anyway, this is Victor, I guess. And 1:22:15.080 --> 1:22:17.880 he's sitting at the table. He's showing away his two 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:20.800 arm hotties. He's got like fuck you and fuck me 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:24.240 from fucking to awesome powers these two girls on the 1:22:24.280 --> 1:22:26.360 side of him, and then the guy who brings them 1:22:26.360 --> 1:22:29.240 back there will only allow Stabler to approach the table. 1:22:29.680 --> 1:22:33.760 So very orthodox Jewish, but like why originally, Like. 1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:36.280 Only only women can talk to women, only men can 1:22:36.280 --> 1:22:37.960 talk to men is what we're like getting here in 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:41.760 this episode. So the guy immediately starts lamenting Sonya's death. 1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:44.720 He goes, oh, my wife liked Sonya so much? Is 1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:47.680 it one of those girls? Probably not, uh she my 1:22:47.720 --> 1:22:50.240 wife loved to listen to her sing, And then he's 1:22:50.280 --> 1:22:53.759 bullshitting stable about life is about choices, blah blah blah, 1:22:53.920 --> 1:22:57.880 and eventually he brings up Alexander Strewsaw or whatever. He 1:22:57.960 --> 1:23:00.400 tries to make it seem like Alexander is a beat guy. 1:23:00.840 --> 1:23:03.040 Victor tries to make it seem like Alexander's a bad guy, 1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:04.000 but there's no proof. 1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:06.639 He's like, what proof? What do you mean proof? I'm 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:08.120 just having a friendly conversation. 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:11.719 I work for the airline business, which is like very 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:15.720 mafia coded, like I'm in I'm in waste management. You know, 1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:18.439 Like you work in the airline business. Okay, are you're 1:23:18.439 --> 1:23:20.920 a sex trafficker? Like I don't, I don't understand, Like 1:23:21.640 --> 1:23:23.120 what airline do you work for? 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:24.120 TSA? What is it? 1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:24.760 So? 1:23:24.880 --> 1:23:28.719 Now, Cassidy and Munch are on the boardwalk at Brighton 1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:32.920 Beach talking to people when they run into Sonya's male cousin, 1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:35.360 the drunk the guy from earlier that wanted to go 1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:38.760 drink with them and offer them the borsch. He's now 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:43.360 wasted and speaks English, and Munch and Cassidy are pissed. 1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:45.960 They're like, now you speak fucking English And the guy's 1:23:46.000 --> 1:23:48.400 like when I'm only when I'm drunk I can speak English. 1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:50.000 But he's like very good at it, like he speaks 1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:51.160 perfectly good English. 1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:54.400 And the guy starts telling them and he's hammered, who 1:23:54.439 --> 1:23:56.840 my dad, Oh he does yeah. 1:23:57.040 --> 1:23:59.520 One hundred percent. We're like, why are you speaking English? 1:23:59.560 --> 1:24:03.639 Like we all understand you, but yeah, so funny. How 1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:06.160 good is he the truth? It's a mess. 1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:08.840 How good is he drunk? I don't know. I guess 1:24:08.920 --> 1:24:10.439 it's been a while. It's been a while. 1:24:11.080 --> 1:24:13.799 I would say I was always super fluent in Italian 1:24:13.840 --> 1:24:15.680 when I was drunk, because you just don't have the 1:24:15.840 --> 1:24:18.640 self consciousness. You're just like, so I'm fucking up a 1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:21.120 verb or a pronoun here or there. Let's keep going, 1:24:21.240 --> 1:24:24.240 you know, we're having fun. And people would always be like, 1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:27.240 you speak great Italian. I'd be like, I'm wasted, you know. 1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:32.960 But Cassidy and Munch are talking to this guy and 1:24:33.000 --> 1:24:36.160 he's like, oh, I heard about I heard Alex and 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:39.920 Sonya having sex that day with spanking, and then I 1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:42.600 thought that's okay, and then it turned into screaming and 1:24:42.720 --> 1:24:46.040 murder and then he goes, you losers, you are more 1:24:46.040 --> 1:24:52.040 stupid than my ass to Munch in Cassidy, which you know, okay. 1:24:52.520 --> 1:24:56.240 So you're writing this script like what's the point of 1:24:56.280 --> 1:24:59.240 this character. There's so many characters that are like, what's 1:24:59.320 --> 1:25:02.000 so hard? One of the hardest episodes, and I feel 1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:04.360 like they're trying to do a movie, but I don't know, 1:25:04.400 --> 1:25:07.040 it's really hard. It's a hard one. It's so it 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:11.360 just keeps being like and it's like, oh, this character Alexander, 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:13.400 he just walks in and act three and he's actually 1:25:13.439 --> 1:25:14.240 a huge part of it. 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:16.960 Like it's just weird the way that it structured. 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:21.639 Also, this episode is like all order or like no law, 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:23.680 Like there's no it's all the cops and none of 1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:28.360 the court. So yeah, anyway, now Stabler is back taking 1:25:28.400 --> 1:25:30.080 another run at Katya. I don't know if it's the 1:25:30.120 --> 1:25:32.240 same fucking day or a different day or whatever. But 1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:37.280 they tell her we think Alex killed Sonya and Andrew, 1:25:37.360 --> 1:25:40.840 but we don't really know why. They ask Katya, did 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:44.559 you know Sonya and Alex were fucking? And she goes, so, 1:25:45.479 --> 1:25:47.320 maybe she wasn't as good in bed as me, but 1:25:47.439 --> 1:25:48.720 that's no reason to kill her. 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:50.960 I mean, this woman finding a way to like. 1:25:50.920 --> 1:25:53.679 Brag about her sexual prowess while talking about her murdered 1:25:53.680 --> 1:25:57.400 friend is wild. Katya is unable to speak to Stabler 1:25:57.439 --> 1:25:59.920 without flirting and being seductive, like she just can't like 1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:03.679 look at him without like giving him bedroomise, and Benson 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:05.599 interrupts and is like, can I speak to her alone 1:26:05.600 --> 1:26:06.160 for a minute. 1:26:06.240 --> 1:26:07.519 So it's like, we got to clear the room. 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:09.120 We got to clear the testosterone out of the room 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:11.920 because she cannot function while there's a penis in the room. Okay, 1:26:12.560 --> 1:26:16.720 And so Stabler leaves and Benson tells her, bitch, do 1:26:16.720 --> 1:26:18.599 you know how easy it would be to convict you. 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:21.240 You admit being there, your fingerprints are there, there was 1:26:21.280 --> 1:26:23.719 a lawsuit against you from him. It's a no brainer 1:26:23.760 --> 1:26:25.640 to prove you guilty. And she goes, but I am 1:26:25.640 --> 1:26:28.320 not guilty, and they're like, so help us catch Alex 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:30.760 and she goes, I'm busy, and they're like, okay, so 1:26:30.840 --> 1:26:33.000 you don't feel any fear or guilt or are you 1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:35.719 just a sex machine with a cash register between your legs. 1:26:35.760 --> 1:26:38.000 Benson says to her, wow. 1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:40.479 Okay, and then she goes, or maybe you're just too 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:43.200 scared to get involved, and Katya is like, bingo, bitch, 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:45.519 I'm in a war and I want to survive, some die, 1:26:45.640 --> 1:26:50.400 some win. No one helps anyone, which is interesting because 1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:54.559 Sonya's thing was I only help my friends, like I 1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:56.880 gotta rely on my friends, like they're all I have 1:26:57.000 --> 1:26:59.519 in this world. And she ends up fucking dead, and 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:02.080 this woman's like, no one helps you like you look 1:27:02.120 --> 1:27:04.800 out for you. You're the bottom line. She goes, alex 1:27:04.880 --> 1:27:06.760 is upset about, like why won't fuck him anymore? And 1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:08.559 they're like, well, why won't you, like because you have 1:27:08.600 --> 1:27:10.080 to like go work on your nails. You make a 1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:12.360 living sleeping with men, Like why not sleep with him? 1:27:12.520 --> 1:27:14.479 And she goes, you should sleep with more men. It 1:27:14.479 --> 1:27:16.759 would help you. You wouldn't be such a mean bitch, 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:18.320 is what Katya says. 1:27:18.120 --> 1:27:21.000 To stay to Benson. And then she goes, I catch. 1:27:20.840 --> 1:27:23.559 Murderers for a living, so we're not so different from Russia, 1:27:23.920 --> 1:27:27.760 especially the prisons. No Champagne, no caviat and Katya goes, 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:30.439 I don't believe you, and Benson's like I'm done. She 1:27:30.520 --> 1:27:33.240 gets up, pulls Katya up to arrest her, puts her 1:27:33.240 --> 1:27:35.599 hand behind her back. We do notice that Katya's shirt 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:39.000 has one working button and it's doing a lot of work. 1:27:39.080 --> 1:27:42.840 It's struggling hard to keep it together. Katya folds and 1:27:42.960 --> 1:27:45.599 is like okay, okay, just like I'll talk just this once, 1:27:46.080 --> 1:27:48.320 and then she goes, I guess I'm in the mood 1:27:48.360 --> 1:27:52.680 for horse Radish vodka, and Benson's like what as am I? 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:55.800 And she goes at the restaurant, Alex hangs out at 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:58.080 my favorite vodka is horse Radish? 1:27:58.400 --> 1:27:59.519 What is happening? 1:28:00.080 --> 1:28:03.320 So now back at the somehow this is like her 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:05.840 in code saying I'm going to go undercover for you. 1:28:05.920 --> 1:28:06.320 I guess. 1:28:06.560 --> 1:28:09.559 So we're at the Moscow restaurant. She's flirting with Alex. 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:11.920 They're pawing at each other at the bar. The cops 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:14.920 are listening in a van. Okay, she's obviously wired up. 1:28:15.439 --> 1:28:19.040 They did they get a translator to translate their conversation 1:28:19.160 --> 1:28:21.120 or did they just rely on Munch as like semester 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:23.040 of college Russian from forty years ago? 1:28:23.360 --> 1:28:24.240 It's the second one. 1:28:24.560 --> 1:28:27.280 They can kind of hear what they're saying, but they 1:28:27.640 --> 1:28:29.840 Munch doesn't know a lot of what they're talking about. 1:28:29.880 --> 1:28:32.440 And then he just hears Alex say I should. 1:28:32.160 --> 1:28:34.479 Just get it over with now, and so they're like, uh, fuck, 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:38.320 move in. So Alex has a gun. All the cops 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:40.800 are in the restaurant, gun's drawn on him, but he's 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:42.360 got a gun, and he's like, I'm not going to 1:28:42.439 --> 1:28:45.840 hurt anyone. He empties all the bullets out of his 1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:51.160 gun except for one Russian roulette right, spins the chamber 1:28:51.640 --> 1:28:52.719 and points it at himself. 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:56.040 How I love games? Yeah, yeah, this gay, This is 1:28:56.080 --> 1:28:56.679 a wild game. 1:28:57.200 --> 1:29:01.439 I love roulette regular And he tells he's like, I'm 1:29:01.439 --> 1:29:03.400 going to tell you a Russian love poem. 1:29:03.439 --> 1:29:05.240 You can listen, or you can just shoot me. 1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:09.760 And I don't know why they don't just shoot him 1:29:10.320 --> 1:29:12.479 to maim him, Like don't they learn how to shoot 1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:14.519 to mame, Like shoot someone in the leg, shoot someone 1:29:14.560 --> 1:29:15.120 in the arm. 1:29:15.120 --> 1:29:18.280 Like I don't keep shooting at you, Like maybe it's 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.400 like you know what I mean, Like, if they they're 1:29:20.400 --> 1:29:22.519 going to shoot at you, that's true. 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:25.760 Gun and it has one bullet, but he's pointing. 1:29:25.439 --> 1:29:27.479 At himself, that's true. I guess he could have turned 1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:30.000 it off. Maybe he wanted, you know, death by a cop. 1:29:30.960 --> 1:29:35.360 Yeah, So he tells them I brought Katya here. I 1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:37.360 loved her. I did everything for her. I wanted to 1:29:37.400 --> 1:29:39.880 marry her, but she betrayed me. And he brings up 1:29:39.880 --> 1:29:42.280 his mother's blind devotion to the ass. 1:29:42.680 --> 1:29:45.000 Why don't you have blind devotion towards her? Let her 1:29:45.080 --> 1:29:49.160 cheat on you? If he's the man, he's the man, 1:29:49.600 --> 1:29:52.120 that's what women do. Fucking loser. 1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:55.519 So he keeps pulling the trigger of the gun as 1:29:55.560 --> 1:29:57.920 this story is going on, but he's getting the empty rounds. 1:29:57.960 --> 1:29:59.360 Okay, he goes. 1:30:00.120 --> 1:30:02.799 I went into the home after the girls tied up Andrew, 1:30:02.840 --> 1:30:05.160 and I strangled him to death with a rope. I 1:30:05.200 --> 1:30:08.559 wanted to teach Katya a lesson, make her pay and 1:30:08.680 --> 1:30:15.599 respect me. What why does that make her pay? She 1:30:15.640 --> 1:30:17.559 literally doesn't have to pay back this two million dollar 1:30:17.640 --> 1:30:20.400 lawsuit now and she can move on and find her 1:30:20.439 --> 1:30:24.920 next guy. I guess murdering somebody's like, but they weren't 1:30:24.960 --> 1:30:27.639 together anymore, so it's not like she's a meal ticket anymore. 1:30:28.160 --> 1:30:30.960 Also, you broke. 1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:33.720 Into a townhouse, you follow like I don't know, like 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:36.400 they left him like lying there, tied up. I don't 1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:38.439 actually believe this is what happened. I'll tell my thoughts 1:30:38.439 --> 1:30:41.679 at the end, which is getting close. I told Sonya 1:30:42.120 --> 1:30:45.480 sometimes you make stupid mistakes. I didn't want to kill her, 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:48.280 but I could kill her because I didn't love her. 1:30:48.600 --> 1:30:50.960 I told the aunt to go to the store, but 1:30:51.040 --> 1:30:53.439 it was closed and she came back too soon. Again 1:30:53.479 --> 1:30:56.519 the why are you killing Sonya? Sonya barely says anything. 1:30:56.960 --> 1:31:01.400 She doesn't tell anything, like she's not given up anything 1:31:01.400 --> 1:31:04.880 to the cops, Like, I guess I know that Russian 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:07.280 mafia people like kill people even for speaking to the 1:31:07.280 --> 1:31:09.560 cops at all, but in this case, it's like, I 1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:11.760 don't even know what this guy's deal is. Is he 1:31:11.840 --> 1:31:13.919 in the Russian mob or is he just obsessed with Katya? 1:31:14.000 --> 1:31:18.160 This episode is insane. And he's like, I just wanted 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.320 to be happy to live with Katya in America. But 1:31:20.360 --> 1:31:23.120 she hurt me. No one hurts me, not even this gun. 1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:25.559 See how lucky I am. And then we hear a 1:31:25.600 --> 1:31:30.360 gunshot and he goes down. And now we cut to 1:31:30.400 --> 1:31:32.800 the boardwalk and Benson and Stabler are leaning against the 1:31:32.880 --> 1:31:35.080 railing and they're looking kind of shook about the whole thing. 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:37.719 And then Ben Sabler goes, let's get out of here, 1:31:37.960 --> 1:31:40.840 and then they start to walk off and they head home, 1:31:41.000 --> 1:31:43.000 and then they have this whole conversation where it's just 1:31:43.080 --> 1:31:45.600 the back of them, which feels like it's an adr. 1:31:45.320 --> 1:31:47.759 Thing or something that they added in, and. 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:51.920 Benson goes, some people consider death a blessing, that this 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:54.960 was not. This was no blessing, and Stabler's like, what 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:59.599 a mess. And then Benson goes blowing people's heads off 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:02.839 because of some vodka induced third rate notion of tragedy. 1:32:03.000 --> 1:32:04.799 No one's had got blown off in the whole episode, 1:32:04.840 --> 1:32:05.960 no one's had got blown off. 1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:07.360 Not one head was blown off. 1:32:07.800 --> 1:32:10.360 Stabler goes, it's a lot of crap, and for this 1:32:10.560 --> 1:32:13.480 they come to America and that's dick wolfbaby. 1:32:14.040 --> 1:32:16.080 I just have like so many. 1:32:15.880 --> 1:32:18.519 Questions, like if he's really confessing, why would he confess 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:22.679 the wrong way? Because I think Katya did kill Andrew 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:26.400 and that she he is covering for her. Yeah, and 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:30.479 that when he killed himself it stops the investigation because 1:32:30.520 --> 1:32:31.120 he confessed. 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:32.720 He says, I strangled him, I snuck in. 1:32:33.240 --> 1:32:37.000 Now he knows, he knows the modus operanda, like now 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:37.559 he knows the MO. 1:32:38.400 --> 1:32:41.439 So maybe they that saves Katyas. 1:32:41.439 --> 1:32:44.120 Maybe it's this final act of love for Katya that 1:32:44.160 --> 1:32:51.639 he does this, and then he kills Sonya because Sonya 1:32:51.680 --> 1:32:54.040 could have turned on her son. We had to get 1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:56.000 rid of Sonya because if Sonya was there for the murder, 1:32:56.439 --> 1:32:58.400 she could have eventually turned. He was getting rid of 1:32:58.400 --> 1:33:01.400 all witnesses and then he killed I think that has 1:33:01.479 --> 1:33:06.439 to kind of be what happened, because why else would 1:33:06.479 --> 1:33:09.920 you come in give the wrong confession, say you killed 1:33:10.000 --> 1:33:15.280 him but not the right way. Like, listen, Katya is great, 1:33:15.320 --> 1:33:19.280 why are you killing Sonya? It's like killing it. Katya 1:33:19.479 --> 1:33:23.680 is the top Russian horror of Yeah, the people are 1:33:23.720 --> 1:33:28.280 just killing themselves and others. Yeah, and that guy Victor 1:33:28.600 --> 1:33:31.240 is also kind of trying to like frame Alex and 1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:32.240 they're a bad guy. 1:33:32.320 --> 1:33:35.519 I like, this is like the craziest episode. The men 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:38.200 are all drunks and look alike, the women are all 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:41.320 blonde and look alike. Like, I don't understand why they 1:33:41.360 --> 1:33:44.120 couldn't get different looking guys and girls. 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:50.320 It's crazy. It is crazy, but I mean a wild episode. 1:33:50.600 --> 1:33:53.439 It feels like it was back when they were probably 1:33:53.439 --> 1:33:55.720 just trying to be really ambitious on the show and 1:33:56.160 --> 1:33:58.360 do a lot of like crazy plots, because it just 1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:01.400 feels like, Wow, you guys did a little bit too much. 1:34:01.400 --> 1:34:01.680 You know what. 1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:03.600 I would have loved. I would have loved if it 1:34:03.600 --> 1:34:04.280 really did. 1:34:04.120 --> 1:34:06.320 Turn out that the wife and Katya were in cahoots 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:09.280 and they like that, like all her shit about Russian 1:34:09.280 --> 1:34:11.360 women was kind of bullshit and she was lying and 1:34:11.400 --> 1:34:13.200 that really she was like, yeah, we just got rid 1:34:13.240 --> 1:34:14.840 of him so that we could all get more money. 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:18.240 And you know, he's a compulsive sex freak and we 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:21.200 just not to kink shame anyone. But that's what his 1:34:21.240 --> 1:34:24.800 wife thought about him. Yeah. Anyway, let's get to the 1:34:24.840 --> 1:34:26.040 crime because I'm excited. 1:34:33.520 --> 1:34:36.800 This is the case of a man named Lance Herndon, 1:34:37.560 --> 1:34:43.200 and he was an Atlanta computer consulting businessman, millionaire and 1:34:43.360 --> 1:34:47.920 he was he was Okay, so I started doing an accent. 1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:51.040 Oh my god, so russious. 1:34:50.800 --> 1:34:54.040 And oh, by the way, the woman that plays what 1:34:54.080 --> 1:34:56.720 did you think of the accents? Because the woman that 1:34:56.800 --> 1:35:01.120 plays Katya American, but he had a sort of Russian 1:35:01.160 --> 1:35:03.240 sounding last name, so I might have like Russian heritage 1:35:03.240 --> 1:35:03.920 but was born. 1:35:03.720 --> 1:35:04.280 In the US. 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:07.599 And then I think the woman that played Sonya is Russian, 1:35:07.760 --> 1:35:08.840 but I looked her up. 1:35:08.880 --> 1:35:11.719 It's overly hard. It's none of it sounds smooth. 1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:17.640 Yeah, especially when they're speaking in monologue weird English. 1:35:17.360 --> 1:35:22.400 Of it sounds great. But I'm thrilled to be a 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.240 part of it. Yeah. 1:35:24.280 --> 1:35:28.000 So, and Lance was found dead and there was no 1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:30.760 shortage of suspects who might have wanted him dead. 1:35:31.400 --> 1:35:32.880 Done done, Okay. 1:35:32.960 --> 1:35:35.120 So it was actually Roswell, Georgia, and it's like an 1:35:35.200 --> 1:35:37.720 upper class suburb and he had a house there just 1:35:37.760 --> 1:35:39.040 north of Atlanta. 1:35:40.040 --> 1:35:41.400 He was very successful. 1:35:41.479 --> 1:35:45.000 He was appointed by President Clinton to the nineteen ninety 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:47.480 five White House Conference on Small Businesses. 1:35:47.600 --> 1:35:49.840 So he was successful. 1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:53.679 And then August ninth, nineteen ninety six, he was found 1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:56.200 bludgeoned to death at his home at the age of 1:35:56.240 --> 1:35:59.720 forty one. A single non fatal blow to the back 1:35:59.760 --> 1:36:03.719 of his head that possibly disoriented him, and then multiple 1:36:03.800 --> 1:36:06.200 blows to the front and right side of his face 1:36:06.240 --> 1:36:09.080 that crushed all his facial bones inward and did cause 1:36:09.120 --> 1:36:09.639 his dad. 1:36:09.560 --> 1:36:12.759 Oh god, that's really forceful. Yeah. 1:36:12.800 --> 1:36:16.720 So basically one of his employees, so he was a 1:36:16.720 --> 1:36:19.960 hard worker, and he usually is in the office by 1:36:20.000 --> 1:36:22.920 five am, up and working, and he operated from his 1:36:23.040 --> 1:36:26.360 house often. And so one of his employees, Holly Stuber, 1:36:26.600 --> 1:36:29.120 went into his property because she's like, it's eight am. 1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:29.920 Where the fuck is he? 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:33.960 He's not answering his pages nineteen ninety six and there's 1:36:34.920 --> 1:36:39.719 nothing on his caliber is blowing up. I'm yeah, beeper 1:36:39.840 --> 1:36:43.360 so fucking cool. I want the bubblegum beeper. Do you 1:36:43.360 --> 1:36:45.680 remember those? Like the clear beepers and the gum was 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:47.400 in it with the gum. I wonder if I could 1:36:47.400 --> 1:36:53.240 buy that okay, So around bab, I don't fuck with eBay. 1:36:53.640 --> 1:36:56.000 I bought a printer or I bought a VCR. It 1:36:56.120 --> 1:36:59.439 wasn't good. So it's that's it. Oh yeah, I don't 1:36:59.439 --> 1:37:02.000 trust the games they play there. It's not for me. 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:05.640 I like things to like come into my life in 1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:07.200 a chill manner. I'm an Etsy girl. 1:37:08.360 --> 1:37:08.639 Yeah. 1:37:08.720 --> 1:37:14.400 Etsy's for girls, Ebays for boys. That's so how I feel. 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:15.000 That's that. 1:37:16.640 --> 1:37:19.840 So it's ten am and his mother arrives as well, 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:23.080 and she, like she always does, she helps with the business, 1:37:23.640 --> 1:37:26.679 but he's not downstairs, so she goes upstairs. She finds 1:37:26.760 --> 1:37:30.120 him in his bedroom. It is a waterbed, there's blood 1:37:30.120 --> 1:37:34.479 spatter on the walls, he's unresponsive, he's naked, there's porn 1:37:34.479 --> 1:37:38.719 in the VCR, and his death unfortunately kind of sullied 1:37:38.720 --> 1:37:43.320 his successful reputation. He was known as the celebrity entrepreneur 1:37:43.479 --> 1:37:46.519 like a Great Gatsby vibe, and then with the porn, 1:37:46.640 --> 1:37:49.559 naked lots of girlfriends, it kind of like his public 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:54.080 you know, it overshadowed his public and professional image. So 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:57.640 the theories were like it could be business rivals or 1:37:57.680 --> 1:38:01.040 one of his many girlfriends. And around town he was 1:38:01.080 --> 1:38:03.160 known as a woman iSER, and this is according to 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:06.200 be Et. And he was married and divorced three times, 1:38:06.760 --> 1:38:09.160 and at the time of the murder, he was involved 1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:12.040 with about half a dozen women, and that's according to 1:38:12.080 --> 1:38:15.040 the Tampa Bay Times. So he's just like out and 1:38:15.080 --> 1:38:19.040 about fucking. He's hot, he's rich, good to his mother, 1:38:19.400 --> 1:38:21.360 you know what I mean. He's generous, he's letting people 1:38:21.439 --> 1:38:26.200 drive Mercedes Mercedes like he's living the life worth millions, 1:38:26.320 --> 1:38:30.040 on the cutting edge of technology, giant clients. So I 1:38:30.080 --> 1:38:34.640 was confused because this crime is salacious enough that like, 1:38:35.200 --> 1:38:38.480 but there was more articles about press for the dateline 1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:41.360 coming out, or the original two part movie Love and 1:38:41.479 --> 1:38:45.679 Murder Atlanta, Playboy, or an Oxygen episode like the Real 1:38:45.760 --> 1:38:49.559 Murders of Atlanta. So there's all these shows but not 1:38:49.640 --> 1:38:52.000 a lot of news articles. And then there's also a 1:38:52.000 --> 1:38:55.160 book written on it called Redbone, Money, Malice and Murder 1:38:55.160 --> 1:38:55.799 in Atlanta. 1:38:56.560 --> 1:38:58.960 And all the articles for a while were like teasing. 1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:02.360 They were like, oh, all the there would be like 1:39:02.760 --> 1:39:05.080 they would ask spicy questions and then all the links 1:39:05.080 --> 1:39:07.000 are dead. You can't find anything streaming. 1:39:07.120 --> 1:39:09.360 One of them was like gum wrappers in the wrench 1:39:09.439 --> 1:39:12.000 that tie the story together and then I'm like, where 1:39:12.120 --> 1:39:15.240 is the information? And then I understood why, and this 1:39:15.280 --> 1:39:16.920 is why I think AI is bad. And it's proof 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:19.920 because I wonder if a I would have figured this out. 1:39:20.280 --> 1:39:22.960 But it happened days within the nineteen ninety six Atlanta 1:39:22.960 --> 1:39:26.400 Olympic bombing, so it just kind of fell under in 1:39:26.479 --> 1:39:30.000 the news, like there was such bombing at the Olympics 1:39:30.600 --> 1:39:33.439 in the city, and we've covered a few crimes like that, 1:39:33.479 --> 1:39:36.880 where like they just didn't get attention during the and 1:39:36.960 --> 1:39:39.919 got overshadowed by other, like really big cases. 1:39:40.680 --> 1:39:42.240 That's crazy because that was Matt. 1:39:42.320 --> 1:39:45.240 I mean that was like huge, yeah, of course, and 1:39:45.280 --> 1:39:47.360 you know what, that seemed so big, but I'm like, 1:39:47.680 --> 1:39:49.479 no one ever even really thinks about it. And it 1:39:49.520 --> 1:39:52.120 was a full bombing at the Olympics in Atlanta, Like 1:39:52.120 --> 1:39:52.759 what the fuck? 1:39:54.280 --> 1:39:57.000 And that I mean they just that That movie just 1:39:57.000 --> 1:39:58.720 came out with Paul walter Hauser that I didn't get 1:39:58.720 --> 1:39:59.000 to see. 1:39:59.000 --> 1:40:01.120 But I do like him, Like you just said, just 1:40:01.240 --> 1:40:03.120 I bet it was six years ago Google when it 1:40:03.160 --> 1:40:03.559 came out. 1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:05.720 No, he was just nominated for a. 1:40:07.400 --> 1:40:09.599 Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like it was a 1:40:09.640 --> 1:40:11.639 decade ago, oh twenty nineteen. 1:40:11.760 --> 1:40:15.639 You're right six years ago. Fuck yeah, exactly six years ago. 1:40:15.960 --> 1:40:17.879 I someone was just talking about him on a podcast 1:40:17.920 --> 1:40:20.639 about him getting nominated. I got a mistaken movie grid. 1:40:20.720 --> 1:40:23.200 There was a TV grid and for greta Lee TV 1:40:23.280 --> 1:40:24.600 show of three, inciting me. 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:25.479 Schumer didn't count. 1:40:25.520 --> 1:40:31.000 So I emailed them going, hey, boys, excuse me, and 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:33.880 they went, sorry, are bad Our TV database isn't as good. 1:40:33.920 --> 1:40:36.559 I go, no worries, just making sure you're on top 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:45.720 of it. You could reset my puzzle, thank you. So yeah, so, 1:40:45.880 --> 1:40:47.240 and it is, you know. 1:40:47.320 --> 1:40:49.799 And it is also an interesting case because it's referred 1:40:49.840 --> 1:40:53.360 to as like black Mecca, and that's according to Ron Stodgehill. 1:40:53.360 --> 1:40:55.920 And he's the author of the book that I mentioned earlier, 1:40:56.240 --> 1:40:59.400 and he researched this case for three years and he's like, yeah, 1:40:59.400 --> 1:41:02.559 it was a black millionaire, black prosecutor and black DA 1:41:02.720 --> 1:41:04.640 and it was unique and he had just had a 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:08.360 lot of fascination with the case. And Clint Rucker, who 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:10.920 is the prosecutor of the case and then retired eventually 1:41:10.960 --> 1:41:13.160 as an executive DA and he comes in later, but 1:41:13.200 --> 1:41:15.439 he worked at the DA's office for twenty six years. 1:41:16.560 --> 1:41:21.040 Fun fact, his first trial partner Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace 1:41:21.120 --> 1:41:24.240 so pretty wow. And then he did the classic. He 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:26.559 became a private defense attorney. It seems like that's what 1:41:26.560 --> 1:41:28.559 everyone does. That's like Luigi's lawyer. Like, I think she 1:41:28.600 --> 1:41:31.479 worked twenty seven years and then switched on over. I 1:41:31.479 --> 1:41:33.680 think they get really high in the DA's office and 1:41:33.680 --> 1:41:36.000 then they're like, I'm gonna get rich. Now I'm gonna 1:41:36.000 --> 1:41:36.400 go get rid. 1:41:36.520 --> 1:41:42.000 Yeah, Nancy Grace, dide you you are a top mom. 1:41:42.160 --> 1:41:45.240 That brisen Lee let her toddler die. 1:41:45.479 --> 1:41:48.479 Oh my god, my sister and I love talking to 1:41:48.840 --> 1:41:50.760 each other in a Nancy Graces voice. 1:41:51.520 --> 1:41:53.000 I just enjoyed listening to it. 1:41:54.280 --> 1:41:56.479 He handled about one hundred and fifty homicides, but he 1:41:56.520 --> 1:41:59.200 come okay, So he said, this case has everything. He's 1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:02.439 like stuff on, it's got sex, it's got power, it's 1:42:02.479 --> 1:42:05.120 got lies, and was a who done it for a 1:42:05.160 --> 1:42:08.280 long time. And that's according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution. 1:42:08.560 --> 1:42:10.880 I don't know what that is. So like I said, 1:42:11.080 --> 1:42:13.920 really hard to fight, Okay. So police said there was 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:16.400 no fourth century and it did not appear that anything 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:19.400 had been stolen. There were no weapons found at the scene, 1:42:19.520 --> 1:42:23.160 no fingerprints, no witnesses, but then one of his lovers 1:42:23.280 --> 1:42:27.120 ended up incriminating herself two years later in her divorce 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:31.840 proceedings in nineteen ninety eight. So January nineteen ninety eight, 1:42:31.960 --> 1:42:34.160 she mentions that she spoke to her mother in law, 1:42:34.200 --> 1:42:37.639 Barbara Nelson, a few weeks after the murder, and during 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:40.720 that conversation, she admitted to this mother in law that 1:42:40.800 --> 1:42:43.360 she had been to Lance's home on the night he 1:42:43.520 --> 1:42:46.240 was killed, even though she told the cops she was 1:42:46.320 --> 1:42:49.040 not there. So that was kind of the smoking gun 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:51.720 they needed. And they had interviewed her. They've interviewed a 1:42:51.760 --> 1:42:54.160 lot of people. They were suspicious of her, but they 1:42:54.200 --> 1:42:59.040 didn't have the evidence. So dion Bas was a Jamaican 1:42:59.040 --> 1:43:03.200 immigrant and she was pissed at Lance. Herndon he and 1:43:03.240 --> 1:43:06.919 there's a lot there's a few different theories and reasons 1:43:06.960 --> 1:43:09.320 and it could be all of them. So he refused 1:43:09.320 --> 1:43:11.759 to appear in court to ask for the charges against 1:43:11.760 --> 1:43:15.320 her that he pressed earlier for trespassing at his home. 1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:17.920 She was he was like, yeah, I'll come to court 1:43:17.920 --> 1:43:19.960 and like clear your shit up, and then he did 1:43:20.000 --> 1:43:22.960 not go to court. She also saw him with another 1:43:23.000 --> 1:43:27.360 woman and got fucking pissed, and then he had friends 1:43:27.439 --> 1:43:29.720 claim that he was telling them like, I need to 1:43:29.720 --> 1:43:32.320 get rid of her. She's obsessive and controlling, Like I 1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:35.600 do not like her vibe. And so after they like 1:43:35.800 --> 1:43:38.520 kind of broke up, she was arrested for criminal trespass 1:43:38.600 --> 1:43:41.880 outside his home a month earlier, and the court date 1:43:41.960 --> 1:43:45.360 for the charges was the day the victim was found dead. Okay, 1:43:45.479 --> 1:43:50.000 So basically she's one of the girlfriends. She's like, she 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:53.840 sees him with another woman and she's fucking pissed, so 1:43:53.880 --> 1:43:57.120 she tries to trespass. He presses charges and she's like, 1:43:57.200 --> 1:44:01.519 come on, stop that come to court and cleared this up. 1:44:02.080 --> 1:44:04.479 And he doesn't come to court and then he's found dead. 1:44:06.200 --> 1:44:10.439 Wow yeah okay, So and then some sources say that 1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:12.640 like she also was super pissed that he wouldn't like 1:44:12.800 --> 1:44:15.240 fuck her anymore, like she wanted she just wanted it, 1:44:15.280 --> 1:44:16.920 but she also got a lot of perks and stuff. 1:44:17.240 --> 1:44:19.320 The DA also claimed that she was pissed because he 1:44:19.320 --> 1:44:22.719 asked for his car and credit card back. She also 1:44:22.760 --> 1:44:25.759 did have a husband and son back in Jamaica, and 1:44:26.080 --> 1:44:28.280 basically she also started dating him like in a very 1:44:28.360 --> 1:44:31.120 Hilaria Baldwin way, like she forced her way into like 1:44:31.200 --> 1:44:33.599 faked and like a invite to his birthday and got 1:44:33.600 --> 1:44:36.760 to his party and like wanted his ass because he 1:44:37.000 --> 1:44:42.000 is like, you know, rich and hot and like nicely, 1:44:42.600 --> 1:44:47.120 he said. The evidence they eventually did find, but it 1:44:47.200 --> 1:44:49.439 all ended up being circumstantial and it was like a 1:44:49.479 --> 1:44:52.959 hard trial, so they well, not really, it's. 1:44:52.760 --> 1:44:55.880 Not circumstantial at all. Okay, listen. 1:44:56.040 --> 1:44:58.640 So they found a bloody pillow case stuffed into the 1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:02.400 toilet in the master bathroom, so like pretty clear his 1:45:02.560 --> 1:45:05.839 outfit from the night before gone. All his alarm clocks 1:45:05.840 --> 1:45:09.840 and phones were unplugged because he woke up so fucking 1:45:09.880 --> 1:45:11.719 early and the business was run out of his home, 1:45:12.200 --> 1:45:14.240 so if the alarms were all going off, it would 1:45:14.240 --> 1:45:16.599 be suspicious. That means the person who did it knew 1:45:16.600 --> 1:45:19.800 his schedule to unplug all of the alarm clocks. He 1:45:19.840 --> 1:45:21.840 loved getting up early. He was in the office at 1:45:21.880 --> 1:45:26.559 five am. Yeah, like yeah, this wild guy. So then 1:45:26.680 --> 1:45:30.240 Lance's housekeeper also helped identify that when she left there 1:45:30.280 --> 1:45:32.800 was a wrench on the kitchen counter before his death, 1:45:33.280 --> 1:45:36.240 and then it had been missing since the attack, so 1:45:36.280 --> 1:45:39.600 it could be the possible weapon. The emmy testified that 1:45:39.680 --> 1:45:43.439 the wrench could have inflicted the fatal blows. Also, there 1:45:43.520 --> 1:45:47.719 was DNA found under his fingernails. There was also two 1:45:47.800 --> 1:45:50.200 headhairs and one pubic hair that was lifted from the 1:45:50.280 --> 1:45:54.240 victim's nude body, and the blood spatter analysts testified that 1:45:54.320 --> 1:45:57.599 the assailant was on the bed, possibly straddling the victim 1:45:57.640 --> 1:46:01.160 at the time the wounds were inflicted, so who so 1:46:01.200 --> 1:46:03.800 in her person? They also found all these documents that 1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:07.280 were waiting for Lance to sign them. One was that 1:46:07.280 --> 1:46:09.200 she got to keep the card that he bought her 1:46:09.400 --> 1:46:12.360 and like also a summary of the criminal trespass charge 1:46:12.360 --> 1:46:15.479 she wanted him to drop a laptop computer was missing 1:46:15.479 --> 1:46:18.200 from his office that was found on her, and she 1:46:18.320 --> 1:46:20.960 was also using his credit card to purchase furniture the 1:46:21.040 --> 1:46:24.240 day he was found dead, like evil bitch. And even 1:46:24.240 --> 1:46:26.599 though a lot of the evidence is circumstantial, they say, 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:28.439 because of case law, like I don't even know, it 1:46:28.479 --> 1:46:32.120 seems sufficient to me even if it's circumstantial, I guess 1:46:32.200 --> 1:46:37.040 the jury can show, like show that the reasonable reasonableness 1:46:37.240 --> 1:46:41.000 with the evidence that like every other reasonable hypothesis is excluded. 1:46:41.560 --> 1:46:44.679 So like if you can show, like I guess beyond 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:46.760 a reasonable doubt is the thing. But I guess if 1:46:46.800 --> 1:46:50.559 all reason excludes everyone else, the jury can conn. 1:46:50.520 --> 1:46:52.800 It is just I mean, it's it's hard because it's 1:46:52.800 --> 1:46:55.240 circumstantial in the sense that like, yeah, they were fucking, 1:46:55.280 --> 1:46:57.160 and he did give her a credit card, so like sure, 1:46:57.240 --> 1:46:58.960 like if she's using it the day he's killed, she 1:46:58.960 --> 1:47:00.639 was using it the day before he was in the day, 1:47:00.800 --> 1:47:04.800 you know, like and like even if her DNA is 1:47:04.840 --> 1:47:08.519 on him, they were fucking, So yeah, I don't know, Yeah, 1:47:08.520 --> 1:47:12.439 how you Yeah, you'd have to just like there'd have 1:47:12.479 --> 1:47:15.759 to be footage of like her car on his street 1:47:15.840 --> 1:47:17.320 at that time or you know what I mean, like 1:47:17.400 --> 1:47:18.719 at the exact time of death. 1:47:18.800 --> 1:47:21.479 Like you have to really do your fucking police work. 1:47:21.600 --> 1:47:22.080 And they did. 1:47:22.160 --> 1:47:24.599 I mean, it did take a while, but they kept 1:47:24.640 --> 1:47:26.960 tabs on her, and one time they went to her 1:47:26.960 --> 1:47:29.240 place to ask her questions and she didn't answer, so 1:47:29.240 --> 1:47:31.519 they went to the neighbor's house, and then the neighbor 1:47:31.560 --> 1:47:34.240 reported that the moment the cops drove away, she like 1:47:34.800 --> 1:47:37.200 ran to her house to get the scoop and then 1:47:37.280 --> 1:47:39.800 she claimed she was in the shower, and the neighbor goes, no, 1:47:39.920 --> 1:47:41.519 she was in a business suit with dry hair and 1:47:41.560 --> 1:47:46.400 a full beat of makeup, so absolutely not so no 1:47:46.600 --> 1:47:50.679 bitch sit by the beat. And then when cops finally 1:47:50.680 --> 1:47:52.880 met up with her, she acted like she'd just found 1:47:52.880 --> 1:47:55.120 out that he had died and went hysterical, so like 1:47:55.720 --> 1:47:58.320 not like them all, not like the wife in the episode. 1:47:58.640 --> 1:48:01.599 But ye, this bitch like was hysterical, but no real 1:48:01.680 --> 1:48:06.639 tears were produced, is what is reported. So then February third, 1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:10.240 nineteen ninety eight, she's indicted of malice murder, felony murder, 1:48:10.400 --> 1:48:14.200 aggravated assault, theft by taking a laptop, theft by taking 1:48:14.280 --> 1:48:18.680 jewelry off his body, and card fraud. This went to 1:48:18.760 --> 1:48:22.120 trial from April ninth, two thousand and one, to April seventeenth, 1:48:22.160 --> 1:48:25.120 when the jury came back with guilty on all counts. 1:48:25.600 --> 1:48:28.200 On April twentieth, she was sentenced to life in jail 1:48:28.240 --> 1:48:31.920 on the malice murder conviction, and then concurrently five year 1:48:31.960 --> 1:48:34.600 sentence for theft and concurrent to year sentence for the 1:48:34.640 --> 1:48:38.519 financial card fraud charge as well. She got concurrent, but 1:48:38.560 --> 1:48:41.400 the DA did ask for consecutive because she had no remorse. 1:48:41.520 --> 1:48:42.240 She did not care. 1:48:42.280 --> 1:48:44.679 Her attitude the whole trial was like bored as fuck, 1:48:44.800 --> 1:48:48.679 like no emotion, did not give a fuck nothing nothing 1:48:48.680 --> 1:48:52.720 in life in prison, like nothing given nothing. During the sentencing, 1:48:52.760 --> 1:48:57.160 I did watch the court TV and basically this is 1:48:57.200 --> 1:49:00.080 like a side thing, but I found it interesting and 1:49:00.120 --> 1:49:02.360 that they tried to get a mistrial, and so I 1:49:02.400 --> 1:49:06.720 watched that hearing. So like, basically it was about the 1:49:06.760 --> 1:49:09.680 bar standing of the prosecution during the case. He did 1:49:09.680 --> 1:49:11.639 not pay his two thousand to two thousand and one 1:49:11.680 --> 1:49:15.320 bar dues and so he was in bad standing for 1:49:15.360 --> 1:49:18.280 eight months and that was during the time of the trial, 1:49:18.400 --> 1:49:21.479 so he was not authorized to try the case. And 1:49:21.560 --> 1:49:25.160 the prosecution said that he knew because they sent letters 1:49:25.280 --> 1:49:27.280 and like all this stuff. But it's like I barely 1:49:27.320 --> 1:49:30.160 pay my sag dues like they have to. Like like 1:49:30.240 --> 1:49:31.920 I've been on sets where they're like you have to 1:49:31.920 --> 1:49:33.600 call and pay right now or you cannot step on 1:49:33.640 --> 1:49:36.960 the set, like and the judges reaming him out, and 1:49:36.960 --> 1:49:38.960 I'm like, I don't know what I would do. I'd 1:49:38.960 --> 1:49:41.479 be like sometimes I just like the panic of life, 1:49:41.479 --> 1:49:42.720 like I don't know what you want from me. I 1:49:42.760 --> 1:49:45.160 don't like to do my errands, but like this all 1:49:45.200 --> 1:49:50.200 could have fucked everything up. Yeah, and so the letter, 1:49:50.280 --> 1:49:54.360 but the letter, there were letters sent and voicemails, but 1:49:54.400 --> 1:49:56.280 they said that the voicemail was just to the general 1:49:56.360 --> 1:49:59.320 DA and he didn't get it. He also had a 1:49:59.360 --> 1:50:01.799 check bounce in ninety nine and he went in person 1:50:01.840 --> 1:50:02.240 to pay it. 1:50:02.240 --> 1:50:04.960 So he just has like trouble with the bar stuff. 1:50:05.479 --> 1:50:08.000 But he wasn't disbarred and there was no disciplinary action, 1:50:08.520 --> 1:50:10.800 and so the lawyer and then the lawyer really barred. 1:50:10.800 --> 1:50:13.679 But this woman and she goes, see, you're not a lawyer, right, 1:50:13.960 --> 1:50:16.800 all you care about is dues and administrative tasks. Is 1:50:16.800 --> 1:50:22.160 that it like it was incredible, and so he wasn't 1:50:22.160 --> 1:50:23.400 suspended or disbarred. 1:50:23.479 --> 1:50:25.960 You have a year so you could practice law. So 1:50:26.000 --> 1:50:27.439 they fought it, but the mistrial didn't work. 1:50:27.479 --> 1:50:30.479 I mean they tried, but like the judge was fine 1:50:30.680 --> 1:50:34.760 with it, but he was like, what the fuck, I've 1:50:34.800 --> 1:50:37.160 been paying dues for twenty eight years, what's your problem? 1:50:37.280 --> 1:50:40.880 Like I would die on the stand. Clint said, I'm embarrassed. 1:50:40.880 --> 1:50:42.920 I have no excuse. It should have been on it. 1:50:42.920 --> 1:50:46.320 It won't happen again, my bad. So sorry if this 1:50:46.400 --> 1:50:48.479 is too much of an offshoot, but it is just 1:50:48.520 --> 1:50:48.920 like an. 1:50:48.840 --> 1:50:52.559 Administrative I mean I get, but I mean, good lawyers, 1:50:52.600 --> 1:50:56.880 if you're lawyer. Yeah, that's a good lawyer. I'm looking 1:50:56.920 --> 1:50:59.519 for any hole. Yeah, it's a good fucking lawyer. 1:51:00.960 --> 1:51:03.360 But anyways, but they're like, listen, it didn't make anything 1:51:03.439 --> 1:51:06.080 unfair for the trial, you know, so like you're reaching 1:51:06.160 --> 1:51:08.280 and the judge is like, I'm pissed, but I'm moving 1:51:08.360 --> 1:51:08.800 on with it. 1:51:08.840 --> 1:51:11.519 So she did get life. She blanked no emotion. 1:51:12.400 --> 1:51:14.280 On July tenth, two thousand and three, she went to 1:51:14.320 --> 1:51:17.120 court to appeal the conviction and it ended up being 1:51:17.200 --> 1:51:22.200 reversed because of the circumstantial stuff and credibility. But it 1:51:22.240 --> 1:51:25.519 all actually went to an improper bolstering of the state's 1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:30.600 witnesses and so basically there was like contradictory information and 1:51:30.640 --> 1:51:34.000 the testimony from one police officer was found inadmissible. So 1:51:34.040 --> 1:51:37.360 the judge had to reverse it because the cop on 1:51:37.680 --> 1:51:40.519 the stand fucked up, and so then they did a 1:51:40.560 --> 1:51:44.040 second trial, but then the jury was deadlocked, so then 1:51:44.080 --> 1:51:46.920 they did a third trial and she was like, I'll 1:51:46.960 --> 1:51:50.320 just plead out. So she pled guilty to voluntary manslaughter 1:51:50.360 --> 1:51:53.479 in September twenty seventh, two thousand and four, and was 1:51:53.560 --> 1:51:56.439 sentenced to ten years. I don't think that's enough, and 1:51:56.479 --> 1:51:59.120 then she was released in July twenty eleven and then 1:51:59.120 --> 1:52:02.519 ten years probation. I think she's like the luckiest murderer 1:52:02.600 --> 1:52:06.280 of all time. I think she will kill again. She 1:52:06.560 --> 1:52:09.640 has no remorse, and I don't understand why she's not 1:52:09.680 --> 1:52:13.320 serving life. She took jewelry off a dead body of 1:52:13.360 --> 1:52:14.320 a man she bludgeoned. 1:52:15.640 --> 1:52:18.000 I mean it also wasn't like, oh, I'm not at 1:52:18.000 --> 1:52:20.280 you with like an oopsie. It's like, UK, you caved 1:52:20.280 --> 1:52:22.719 his face in. It's psycho. 1:52:23.479 --> 1:52:26.120 Lance is survived by his son, Harrison, who is five 1:52:26.160 --> 1:52:29.080 when he last saw his father alive, and he said 1:52:29.320 --> 1:52:29.880 he loves what. 1:52:30.000 --> 1:52:32.920 Harrison, Yeah, five when he last saw his father alive. 1:52:33.439 --> 1:52:41.880 Okay, yeah, that's a dexter reference to those who aren't 1:52:41.960 --> 1:52:46.040 hip to it, but yeah, he He's like, it's a 1:52:46.080 --> 1:52:47.920 guidepost for how I live my life, is what I 1:52:47.960 --> 1:52:49.679 hear about my dad. And then I thought I would 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:54.040 leave us on. Some nice things about Lance and like 1:52:54.080 --> 1:52:56.519 so his friends and family spoke about him for Dateline 1:52:56.880 --> 1:52:59.920 that he nurtured relationships intentionally with a lot of war, 1:53:00.439 --> 1:53:04.839 that he was quirky, personable, loved people, loved to entertain, 1:53:05.080 --> 1:53:08.920 sense the humor, open, optimistic, had the world at his 1:53:09.000 --> 1:53:14.080 fingertips and was encouraging, sharp, warm, authentic, handsome, and it 1:53:14.120 --> 1:53:16.800 was a big gift giver and thought about gifts all 1:53:16.880 --> 1:53:19.639 year long, and had databases for all of his clients 1:53:19.680 --> 1:53:22.679 and notes on preferences and all important dates, and sent 1:53:22.760 --> 1:53:27.280 gifts out all the time. Love language always encouraged. 1:53:27.320 --> 1:53:30.759 Now, listen, I don't think we can be I guess, 1:53:30.800 --> 1:53:36.920 as Matt at Andrew Harlan, just because he liked to 1:53:36.960 --> 1:53:40.200 fuck around a lot, you don't deserve to get murdered. 1:53:40.520 --> 1:53:43.800 You know. At the beginning of this series, I feel 1:53:43.800 --> 1:53:46.720 like there was a lot of like, well, if he 1:53:46.720 --> 1:53:48.799 had kept it in his pants, he'd still be alive, 1:53:49.160 --> 1:53:51.880 kind of a messaging on the show. 1:53:51.960 --> 1:53:54.240 And I think it's like, look at Lance. 1:53:54.320 --> 1:53:58.280 He was an accomplished businessman and like a big deal 1:53:58.360 --> 1:54:01.960 in his community, and he fucked with the wrong woman. 1:54:02.600 --> 1:54:09.920 Damn yeah, Dion, Dion crazy. Okay, all right, well we 1:54:09.920 --> 1:54:13.320 don't have a guest today, so let's just dive right 1:54:13.360 --> 1:54:14.439 into that post mortem. 1:54:18.800 --> 1:54:22.759 Listen, Kara, I'll say you did an incredible job. What happened? 1:54:22.760 --> 1:54:25.280 I have no idea? Still, I don't know. This episode 1:54:25.360 --> 1:54:29.000 will never penetrate my brain. I will never learn it 1:54:29.120 --> 1:54:30.880 and I will never know what's going on. And I 1:54:30.920 --> 1:54:32.880 speak the language I speak. 1:54:33.040 --> 1:54:35.920 Yeah, Like, if anything, this is like for you, it's 1:54:36.080 --> 1:54:37.879 truly like, I wait. 1:54:39.640 --> 1:54:41.560 I just had a thought that jumped into my head 1:54:41.560 --> 1:54:43.200 that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. 1:54:43.240 --> 1:54:45.600 And I really apologize. But I had a traditional Sunday 1:54:45.680 --> 1:54:50.520 roast in London and I was really happy. Ooh, you 1:54:50.520 --> 1:54:51.200 don't even eat me. 1:54:51.360 --> 1:54:53.160 I don't even know what that is. But that sounds 1:54:53.200 --> 1:54:55.200 like a cultural experience. How exciting? 1:54:55.800 --> 1:54:58.960 Yes, but I digress. Yeah, Russian love post. 1:54:59.000 --> 1:55:01.240 Oh. I thought it was in seeing that this first 1:55:01.240 --> 1:55:03.720 of all, the show is so into fucking Russia in 1:55:03.760 --> 1:55:06.280 the first twelve seasons, like they talk about Russia so much. 1:55:06.320 --> 1:55:09.280 There's so much Russian mob, Russian. 1:55:09.040 --> 1:55:11.800 Like all these problems, like people with Russian or mail 1:55:11.880 --> 1:55:14.920 order brides, like all this stuff. And this is the 1:55:14.960 --> 1:55:18.760 first one and it just feels like season one, twelfth episode, 1:55:18.880 --> 1:55:21.440 straight out the gate, they're like, let's attack Russian culture. 1:55:21.720 --> 1:55:24.000 Let's get to the not attack in a bad way. 1:55:24.040 --> 1:55:27.080 I mean like let's like really roote, get down, drill 1:55:27.200 --> 1:55:30.000 down on what motivates Russian people. 1:55:29.800 --> 1:55:31.040 When they come to the US. 1:55:31.160 --> 1:55:34.400 And it's like blonde women just fucking their way to 1:55:34.440 --> 1:55:36.240 the top so they can have some kind of power, 1:55:36.680 --> 1:55:37.880 and they look the same. 1:55:37.880 --> 1:55:38.360 But then this. 1:55:38.400 --> 1:55:40.600 Random guy comes out of nowhere and is like, I 1:55:40.680 --> 1:55:43.840 did it. Just kidding, but yes I did. Like this 1:55:43.960 --> 1:55:48.440 episode's so insane. The real crimes, the real crime was 1:55:48.760 --> 1:55:51.680 very sad, and it was for enough. 1:55:51.760 --> 1:55:56.000 It's yeah, really upsetting, yeah, really upsetting. 1:55:56.000 --> 1:55:57.800 And she's just a cold psychopath at the end of 1:55:57.840 --> 1:56:01.360 the day, and it was for And you can't claim 1:56:01.360 --> 1:56:03.240 that you were crazier all these different things when you 1:56:03.280 --> 1:56:04.320 took all the alarm clocks. 1:56:05.520 --> 1:56:09.280 Yeah, yeah, all these like people that are like it 1:56:09.320 --> 1:56:11.200 was the heat of passion. It's like you planned out 1:56:11.240 --> 1:56:13.520 so many steps, so many things were done in advance, 1:56:13.680 --> 1:56:20.240 took to clean up, like yeah. 1:56:19.720 --> 1:56:21.880 But not gonna work for me. 1:56:22.400 --> 1:56:28.000 Yeah, but anyway, I'm sure we have other Russian listeners 1:56:28.000 --> 1:56:31.160 that will write in and let us know how wild 1:56:31.360 --> 1:56:34.800 this all seemed, because it was just I don't know, 1:56:35.880 --> 1:56:40.360 but what else I mean, Yeah, just a classic wild 1:56:40.440 --> 1:56:44.080 early season episode where so much of it didn't make sense, 1:56:44.080 --> 1:56:46.879 but it had so many of these great like tropes, 1:56:47.000 --> 1:56:49.960 like the porn star who won't stop moving boxes and 1:56:50.080 --> 1:56:51.640 is like, do you guys have an agent. I mean 1:56:51.640 --> 1:56:54.560 there's like great Bulldozer. I mean, come on, we had 1:56:54.560 --> 1:56:56.920 some great there's some great elements in this. I just 1:56:57.000 --> 1:56:59.280 don't know if the full cake gets baked. I mean 1:56:59.320 --> 1:57:02.400 this also has the classic there's a banana in the asshole. 1:57:02.680 --> 1:57:05.160 I mean, oh my god, I have a banana up 1:57:05.240 --> 1:57:08.360 is rectum. I mean this this episode gave us a lot, 1:57:08.440 --> 1:57:09.120 like it gave. 1:57:09.000 --> 1:57:11.720 Us allergy banana. 1:57:11.440 --> 1:57:14.840 Like, yeah, the porn star mover, the horny artists, the 1:57:14.880 --> 1:57:16.960 guy who's got a banana up his ass, Like, there 1:57:17.000 --> 1:57:21.960 are a lot of great s, few elements, but I 1:57:22.000 --> 1:57:24.680 don't know that the plane gets landed in terms of 1:57:24.720 --> 1:57:26.000 the plot making any sense. 1:57:26.040 --> 1:57:27.400 But you know, I. 1:57:27.320 --> 1:57:30.360 Also just wish men stops getting married if they just 1:57:30.400 --> 1:57:31.400 wanted to be whorees. 1:57:31.640 --> 1:57:34.560 Like I don't get. I just don't get not following 1:57:34.560 --> 1:57:37.160 your true passion because it's like you want you want 1:57:37.240 --> 1:57:39.280 someone at home obviously too, so you can. 1:57:39.440 --> 1:57:41.840 Yeah, they didn't create their kids, and they didn't really 1:57:41.840 --> 1:57:44.760 get into the pathology of this guy basically having a 1:57:44.760 --> 1:57:48.280 sex addiction. Like they didn't they touch on it. They're like, yeah, 1:57:48.280 --> 1:57:51.120 he'll fuck anything that moves, but like they're not like yeah, 1:57:51.160 --> 1:57:52.720 it was ruining his Like, I don't think that's like 1:57:52.760 --> 1:57:54.680 a fun way to live for most people that have 1:57:54.720 --> 1:57:59.480 sex addiction, you know, Like, so they're right. Yeah, And 1:57:59.560 --> 1:58:02.000 it was just confusing how he was a millionaire but 1:58:02.120 --> 1:58:04.840 was taking gifts back and also not giving gifts to 1:58:04.840 --> 1:58:06.560 the porn guy, like is he not good enough? 1:58:06.600 --> 1:58:10.560 But the Russian women are good? Like it's very confusing, but. 1:58:12.240 --> 1:58:16.200 I am glad we did it. I love a season one. 1:58:16.360 --> 1:58:20.560 I love going back Baby Benson. She's so young. By 1:58:20.560 --> 1:58:23.520 the way, we're getting a lot of calls for Benson Bunnies. 1:58:24.960 --> 1:58:29.320 They like Benson's badge. Bunnies is like too anti our 1:58:29.440 --> 1:58:33.200 pathos as acab people are like, what about Benson Bunnies 1:58:34.440 --> 1:58:36.880 the name of our listeners. 1:58:37.280 --> 1:58:37.720 I don't know. 1:58:38.320 --> 1:58:41.840 Yeah, I like the sentiment, but it's just not because 1:58:41.880 --> 1:58:43.960 I'm thinking about Benson Boone. 1:58:45.720 --> 1:58:46.760 Also, fuck the police. 1:58:46.760 --> 1:58:49.080 I don't know if you saw, but a manager from 1:58:49.120 --> 1:58:53.600 the laugh Factory Chicago was taken by ice. Yes, yeah, 1:58:53.640 --> 1:58:56.200 and the cops just stood watching as they like kicked 1:58:56.240 --> 1:58:58.520 his mom and took him away because he was trying 1:58:58.520 --> 1:59:02.000 to protect his employees. We live in halfa and just 1:59:02.040 --> 1:59:05.320 so you know, yeah, white guy born in the South, 1:59:06.520 --> 1:59:08.400 Like it doesn't matter, like not that it was. 1:59:08.440 --> 1:59:11.240 Right American guys, he's an American citizen. 1:59:11.680 --> 1:59:14.640 Oh, like white as fuck, born in Lake Texas or Virginia, 1:59:14.760 --> 1:59:16.520 ark and like a way. 1:59:18.960 --> 1:59:22.600 Like undocumented or something like that would justify. 1:59:22.640 --> 1:59:26.040 There's no justification. But like why would they just take him? 1:59:26.080 --> 1:59:27.240 What did he do do something? 1:59:27.720 --> 1:59:30.120 I think he was trying to protect the people that 1:59:31.160 --> 1:59:33.600 they were trying to get. 1:59:34.160 --> 1:59:36.240 They threw him down. I mean, if you watch the video, 1:59:36.880 --> 1:59:37.840 they they're throwing him. 1:59:38.400 --> 1:59:40.480 Read somebody talk. I heard somebody talk about it, but 1:59:40.520 --> 1:59:41.680 I didn't see any video. 1:59:41.920 --> 1:59:44.920 And I don't think he's been found yet. And his 1:59:45.000 --> 1:59:48.920 mom just there, yeah, and the cops just watching the 1:59:48.920 --> 1:59:50.920 thirteen year old kid that was taking in Massachusetts and 1:59:51.000 --> 1:59:53.360 ended up in Virginia calling his mom terrified, going, I 1:59:53.360 --> 1:59:56.160 don't even know where I am. Like it's we it's 1:59:56.200 --> 1:59:57.360 a fucking nightmare. 1:59:57.760 --> 2:00:01.760 And they're doing by the way, like if you listen 2:00:01.840 --> 2:00:06.040 to us and there's fucking ice recruitment ads on Spotify, 2:00:06.480 --> 2:00:07.320 we're not part of that. 2:00:07.400 --> 2:00:08.400 We don't want that shit. 2:00:08.560 --> 2:00:11.120 But I don't know how we can stop it because 2:00:12.280 --> 2:00:14.600 there they paid their money to Spotify. 2:00:14.920 --> 2:00:16.480 Listen to us on Apple. I don't know if they're 2:00:16.480 --> 2:00:18.440 a better company, but I mean we can't. 2:00:18.480 --> 2:00:22.840 Well no, because Caleb Heron complained and they're like, oh, 2:00:22.880 --> 2:00:25.560 we'll stop running them for your show, and it's like no, no, no, 2:00:25.520 --> 2:00:28.680 that's actually not the right. Yeah, yeah, the answer is 2:00:28.720 --> 2:00:30.680 we will not run them. But hey, I mean Amazon 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:33.160 just fired thirty thousand people. I mean it's all happening. 2:00:33.200 --> 2:00:36.120 It's all like it was happening. It's gonna continue happening, 2:00:36.360 --> 2:00:38.480 and it's gonna affect everyone. 2:00:38.960 --> 2:00:43.920 Whether we just have such great listeners, but it's. 2:00:43.760 --> 2:00:46.920 The people of like, yeah, the ones that do have job, 2:00:46.960 --> 2:00:50.160 You're also going to be affected because I didn't realize this, 2:00:50.240 --> 2:00:54.480 but grocery stores make money off snap. Yes, that's how 2:00:54.480 --> 2:00:57.360 they make money too, so they're about to lose tons 2:00:57.360 --> 2:01:00.240 of money, which and then very crazy will go up 2:01:00.320 --> 2:01:04.800 for us. Also, it's all like connected. But they don't 2:01:05.080 --> 2:01:08.200 see humanity in the poor or brown or get I 2:01:08.200 --> 2:01:10.920 don't know, they don't see them as humans. It's like 2:01:10.960 --> 2:01:14.000 that fucking black mirror with isn't it Daniel Caluia with 2:01:14.040 --> 2:01:15.720 the thing on his head and he sees everyone as 2:01:15.720 --> 2:01:19.280 a bug. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know my co star Daniel. 2:01:19.360 --> 2:01:21.360 I think it's also but it's like, but it's like 2:01:21.480 --> 2:01:25.800 they are they are expert scapegoats, like they they put 2:01:26.400 --> 2:01:31.800 they're convincing their people that poor people and trans people 2:01:31.880 --> 2:01:34.200 are the ones that are causing their problems, and it's 2:01:34.240 --> 2:01:35.280 like they're not. 2:01:36.000 --> 2:01:36.360 They're not. 2:01:36.440 --> 2:01:39.040 No one like that's not that's not your problem. Has 2:01:39.080 --> 2:01:40.440 he done one thing he told you he was going 2:01:40.520 --> 2:01:43.080 to do to make your life better? No, nothing's cheaper, 2:01:43.440 --> 2:01:46.360 everybody's fucked, everyone's losing their health care, like, nothing is 2:01:46.400 --> 2:01:49.160 better whatever. We can't rail about this man every fucking 2:01:49.200 --> 2:01:51.200 time we get on our podcast, but it is. 2:01:52.280 --> 2:01:55.520 It is, And I like you guys, they think they're 2:01:55.520 --> 2:01:57.240 trying to do something where it's like and you think 2:01:57.280 --> 2:01:59.200 illegal should have health insurance. 2:01:59.200 --> 2:02:00.640 I go, yeah, I think I should all be able 2:02:00.680 --> 2:02:01.840 to do whatever, but they don't. 2:02:01.880 --> 2:02:05.760 Also I know, yeah, but like I believe they should, 2:02:05.960 --> 2:02:08.440 you know, like that, Yeah, that's my thing. It's like 2:02:08.440 --> 2:02:10.000 they're trying to get you, and it's like, no, I 2:02:10.000 --> 2:02:12.880 think everyone should eat, whether they have a job or not. 2:02:13.400 --> 2:02:16.320 I think everyone should have health. Like you're never ever 2:02:16.880 --> 2:02:19.280 gonna change my mind on that. Yeah, I was on 2:02:19.360 --> 2:02:23.200 food stamps. I was on welfare. I was not a citizen. 2:02:24.200 --> 2:02:27.640 I had free and reduced lunch. Like I don't know, 2:02:28.080 --> 2:02:29.000 I don't know what to tell. 2:02:29.040 --> 2:02:32.200 But it ultimately it stabilizes people so that they then 2:02:32.440 --> 2:02:34.840 get out of poverty. And because like do if you 2:02:34.920 --> 2:02:37.760 go on any social media site, people are saying I 2:02:37.800 --> 2:02:41.320 was on snap, I was on benefits and it enabled 2:02:41.320 --> 2:02:43.600 me to help my child. And now we are not 2:02:43.720 --> 2:02:47.320 on those benefits anymore, and we are, you know fully 2:02:47.840 --> 2:02:50.040 contributing to the economy in the way that all you 2:02:50.160 --> 2:02:54.840 fucking psychopaths think everybody should. I just I get so mad. 2:02:55.080 --> 2:02:58.200 I get see whatever I'm buying weapons, You're gonna buy gun, 2:02:59.080 --> 2:03:00.920 not a gun, and I don't need that in my life. 2:03:01.160 --> 2:03:03.680 I think I'm gonna do tasers, bear mas, I'm gonna 2:03:03.680 --> 2:03:07.320 get knives, and I'm gonna start I keep saying I'm 2:03:07.320 --> 2:03:08.800 gonna do pushups, but I haven't. 2:03:09.040 --> 2:03:10.280 But that's on the agenda. 2:03:10.560 --> 2:03:14.760 Wait, that's one of the weapons is your own body? Yeah, 2:03:14.880 --> 2:03:17.080 you meet these two fucking weapons right here. 2:03:18.320 --> 2:03:20.800 Well, I'm inspired by the people, the New Yorkers that 2:03:20.880 --> 2:03:23.480 went out and fucking stood it front of a tank. 2:03:23.640 --> 2:03:26.879 I don't know, I ask it like the ore business 2:03:26.880 --> 2:03:28.080 girl in the polka dot dress. 2:03:28.120 --> 2:03:31.040 But we have to be ready to protect each other. 2:03:31.160 --> 2:03:33.080 I guest, you know, I don't know. I don't know 2:03:33.120 --> 2:03:34.640 what I care to have. 2:03:34.760 --> 2:03:40.720 Yeah, listen, let's move on to our what would Sister 2:03:40.800 --> 2:03:41.120 Peg do? 2:03:41.560 --> 2:03:41.760 Right? 2:03:42.000 --> 2:03:44.840 This is our weekly segment where we direct you to 2:03:45.840 --> 2:03:51.080 sometimes an organization, sometimes I a book, a movie, something 2:03:51.120 --> 2:03:53.839 to give you more information about what we talked about today. Uh, 2:03:53.920 --> 2:03:58.560 we already shouted out googling for Snap benefits. Please do 2:03:58.560 --> 2:04:00.600 that if you fast forward our intros. We are telling 2:04:00.600 --> 2:04:03.440 you again, please google where you can help people that 2:04:03.520 --> 2:04:06.120 are losing their Snap benefits in your state. Just google 2:04:06.160 --> 2:04:07.800 your state and it will come up a thousand different 2:04:07.800 --> 2:04:10.680 places that you can either donate to or give goods to. 2:04:11.120 --> 2:04:13.400 But for this week's what would mister Peg do, we 2:04:13.480 --> 2:04:16.720 are going to shout out the Oxygen true crime show 2:04:17.000 --> 2:04:20.720 The Real Murders of Atlanta that covers the Lance Herndon murder. 2:04:21.040 --> 2:04:23.280 If you want to get more info, put faces to 2:04:24.160 --> 2:04:26.000 the crime and all that. It gets into all the 2:04:26.080 --> 2:04:27.920 nitty gritty of the crime. So if you want to 2:04:27.960 --> 2:04:31.120 know more about what drove Dion Ba to bludgeon this 2:04:31.200 --> 2:04:34.160 man to death, check it out on peacock and we will. 2:04:34.040 --> 2:04:34.840 Post that. 2:04:36.320 --> 2:04:39.960 On our That'll be in our show notes as well 2:04:40.000 --> 2:04:43.280 as in a story that gets saved to our WWSPD 2:04:43.440 --> 2:04:47.560 highlight every week on our Instagram page, which is that 2:04:47.640 --> 2:04:48.400 s Messed Up Pod. 2:04:49.280 --> 2:04:50.280 Thank you so much. 2:04:50.600 --> 2:04:54.400 And next week we'll be doing genes from season eighteen, 2:04:54.680 --> 2:04:58.880 episode thirteen. And this weekend I will be in San 2:04:58.920 --> 2:05:00.840 Francisco late to come see me. 2:05:01.360 --> 2:05:04.480 Thank you, get on up there to Sam Bran, all right, 2:05:04.520 --> 2:05:13.920 thank you guys, We love you. See you next week. 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