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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode. It's a good number. By the way

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Speaker 1: we are. It's the first time both both of me

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Speaker 1: and my guests have been shoeless. Oh you don't you

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Speaker 1: wear shoes in your house? Usually people come over. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I got put on pants. I wear shoes how unless

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Speaker 1: it's like a friend. And so I was like, not Jane,

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's but you've been on, Like

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Speaker 1: I think, is she your most frequent guests? Mike, it's

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Speaker 1: the third time, third time, third times a charm both.

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Speaker 1: I think that the three is the most anyone's been on.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel so special. Thanks guys, really,

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Speaker 1: and you never been here. We did one in l A.

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Speaker 1: We did one in l A and one one on

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Speaker 1: the phone. Yes, on the phone, and then one first

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Speaker 1: time you've been. Yeah, it's beautiful. I've been here like

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Speaker 1: a year, so I don't know if it's new anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Thanks. I was driving here, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if my kind is allowed here.

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Speaker 1: But I don't like wearing shoes. I like, especially in

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Speaker 1: someone's house. I feel like it's kind of disrespect respectful.

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Speaker 1: And then also I don't know, I mean, we're buds

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Speaker 1: and the criss cross apple sauce thing right now, because

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Speaker 1: apparently you can't say Indian style anymore, which I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: But that term doesn't come and that's not about venaculate anyway.

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Speaker 1: My legs are never crossed like that, so it never

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Speaker 1: even comes out. So I'm never do Indian style. No,

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Speaker 1: I can, but I don't. I'm not even I'm not

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Speaker 1: anti Indian style. I just never say you anti the name. No.

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Speaker 1: I just never sit like that, so it never pops

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Speaker 1: into my head. I don't get offended over not being

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Speaker 1: I just never think about it. I just don't understand

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Speaker 1: why you have to do criss cross apple sauce like that.

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Speaker 1: My daughter Jolie can't say Indian style. What's wrong with

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Speaker 1: that Indian like that? But maybe they did, but maybe

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Speaker 1: they did while they were being murdered. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I saw that one movie with Okay,

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Speaker 1: but you're going with a movie Kevin Costner, Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're all sitting. I don't think that Dances with Wolves.

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Speaker 1: They were not sitting Indian style. I just I feel

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Speaker 1: like we have to be so political, and that's what

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Speaker 1: bothers me. I'm like, you can't even sit like that

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, I really care. I don't even

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Speaker 1: care about this conversation because there's no part of this

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Speaker 1: I don't think about that. You can sit crisscross, you

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Speaker 1: can sit knees out, you can sit butterfly, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to say. I don't care. Jane. Here, we I

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Speaker 1: got a couple of things. Let me um talk about

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Speaker 1: your podcast for a second, because um the wine Down podcast.

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Speaker 1: So if you're on here, and if people listen to

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Speaker 1: this podcast to go, she's pretty entertaining. They can come

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Speaker 1: to your podcast and here you do what. Me and

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Speaker 1: my husband have a podcast together. It's called wine Down,

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Speaker 1: and we talk about relationships, love life. We have a

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Speaker 1: open conversation about marriage, the good, the bad, the ugly.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you put them on the spot where I'm uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: for him. Well, you know what, I've gotten that feedback

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But my personality is I'm very just

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Speaker 1: sarcastic with other people, but sometimes it's a little too aggressive,

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Speaker 1: still mean. You're so hard on him, but I'm like,

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Speaker 1: So there are times when I like, I realized that

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Speaker 1: I should have laid off a little bit. Your son

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Speaker 1: I don't see it as much in your daughter, really,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they look like twins. Your son looks

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Speaker 1: he because he played in the NFL. He did would

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Speaker 1: he want your son to play football? So he really

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Speaker 1: wants them to play golf, a non head injury sport

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Speaker 1: much science that will be revealed, more so than now

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Speaker 1: Now we're seeing a little bit of that, but you're

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Speaker 1: our heads, our skulls are not supposed to be rattled

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Speaker 1: around like that. What about all the other contact sports

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Speaker 1: top sports in America football, football, FABA, baseball, basketball, you

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Speaker 1: with going. You can't even like take a palm to

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Speaker 1: writers strike. It was on CMT. I was with one

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Speaker 1: of my other girlfriends and we did a we sang together,

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Speaker 1: can you do It? Were you famous then? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say. I was saying, but I've only been

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Speaker 1: in frid and night Lights. I guess my question is

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Speaker 1: and what is fain? That's a whole different question. I

427
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Speaker 1: stood in the line outside That's what I'm saying Wild

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Speaker 1: Horse Saloon? Were you famous enough that you get to

429
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Speaker 1: go on as the person is from the TV show?

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Speaker 1: It's like small, but I still waited in the line,

431
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Speaker 1: still had to go through all of it. Really, yeah,

432
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Speaker 1: and you weren't a ringer and they were like, oh,

433
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Speaker 1: she's famous, what did you get her on the show? Now?

434
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Speaker 1: But then I made it, but my partner didn't make it,

435
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Speaker 1: and I never sang before like by myself. Who's your partner?

436
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Speaker 1: Her name is Diana Doser. She's lives in sane fright now.

437
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Speaker 1: She hates me. But besides the point, and you guys

438
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Speaker 1: just decided to saying together. Well, we had a band

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Speaker 1: called Moonshine. I didn't know if anyone was on my

440
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Speaker 1: Space you would have heard the song Montgomery Locomery so

441
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Speaker 1: far and you weren't a band called Moonshine. Uh at

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Speaker 1: you with her? Yeah? And then we decided to do

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Speaker 1: this because the writer strike and then because I was

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Speaker 1: like it's CMT like whatever, Sherry Like, I was talking

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Speaker 1: to my agent, She's just like, I really don't want

446
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Speaker 1: you to do this, but fine, And then I end

447
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Speaker 1: up making it and my friend was the singer, so

448
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: she was like, well, you can't do it without me,

449
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Speaker 1: And so then you mean she was a better singer

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Speaker 1: or she was a singer and Moonshine she was like

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Speaker 1: an actual singer, and she kept telling me to sing

452
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Speaker 1: and I said, I'm not the singer you're the singer,

453
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Speaker 1: I'm the actress. Got it, you know? And then I

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Speaker 1: made it and she didn't, and so she was very

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Speaker 1: upset about that, and so then I ended up accepting

456
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Speaker 1: the part, and then I ended up leaving the show

457
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Speaker 1: because I didn't want to. I was afraid to do

458
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Speaker 1: it by myself. So you ended up not going forward

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Speaker 1: on and Ashley Jed was like, this is your laft

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Speaker 1: Like I don't, that's not even how she talks. But

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Speaker 1: she's like, this is your life. How could you not

462
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Speaker 1: do this? You know you should accept this, and so

463
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Speaker 1: then I did, but then I freaked out and then

464
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Speaker 1: I left. I was like, I can't sing without her,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to lose a friendship. Did anyone

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Speaker 1: from that show turn into any thing as far as

467
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Speaker 1: country music goes? Did you mean anybody? So one of

468
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Speaker 1: the couples did for like a hot second. I can't remember.

469
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Speaker 1: Nobody's still around. No, no one's still around. But the

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Speaker 1: Brett Manning was one of the vocal coaches, and then

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Speaker 1: Ashley Judd and um one other girls. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what Brett Manning is. He was he was a vocal

473
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Speaker 1: coach back in the day. Yeah, so what do you

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Speaker 1: get recognized for the most? Is it your Oh it's insane,

475
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Speaker 1: like when I do shows, and I because I always

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Speaker 1: shot up my Tree hillers, I'll say, okay where my

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Speaker 1: Tree hillers at the entire crowd, Well, thank you, because

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you, there'd be no one in

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Speaker 1: this room. I haven't seen One Tree Hill. It's a

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Speaker 1: really good show. Yeah, I mean I've never seen it.

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Speaker 1: Chad Michael Murray, did you say Montgomery before that? Is

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Speaker 1: that wise in my head? Chad Michael? Okay, but One

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Speaker 1: Tree Hill is a really good show. Yeah. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: what was your job on that show? I played a

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Speaker 1: girl named Alex. I did three years of that show.

486
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Speaker 1: We did three years. She has a drug addict. She

487
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Speaker 1: was really fun. She tried to commit suicide. Did you

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Speaker 1: like the character? Loved She was a hot mess, like

489
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Speaker 1: trying to break up relationships, like you know, just the

490
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Speaker 1: day in the life. So it was great And that

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Speaker 1: show did three years in Wilmington, North Carolina. And then

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Speaker 1: from that show, I got to sing on the show,

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Speaker 1: which is how I got my record deal is because

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Speaker 1: you sang on the TV show. So I ended up

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Speaker 1: giving You don't know any of this Bobby. You know,

496
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Speaker 1: I think you and I when we met, we just

497
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Speaker 1: passed forward it. We just yeah, I just wasn't We

498
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Speaker 1: didn't do the whole give me your life story and

499
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Speaker 1: then I already knew you, so I didn't like google everything. Yeah, anyway,

500
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Speaker 1: just filled me in on this. I know. I was

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Speaker 1: working on One Tree Hill and I was realizing we

502
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Speaker 1: were filming in Wilmington, North Carolina. And I've always been

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Speaker 1: the person to say, follow your dreams, do what you love.

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Speaker 1: And I've realized, well, I've always wanted to sing, but

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Speaker 1: I've been so afraid and I didn't know if I

506
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Speaker 1: got to pursue it. But the creator of the show

507
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Speaker 1: really loved music, and so I started flying to Nashville

508
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Speaker 1: on our the weekends and writing with some people that

509
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Speaker 1: I had just been in contact with and wrote some songs,

510
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Speaker 1: gave it to the creator of the show. I was like,

511
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is good, if it sucks,

512
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Speaker 1: but just let me know what you think, since you

513
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Speaker 1: know you've helped Tyler Hilton have a start Kite Vogel

514
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Speaker 1: from this show. And the next thing I know, about

515
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Speaker 1: like two episodes later, I was my He turned my

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Speaker 1: character into a singer, and so then I sang I

517
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Speaker 1: won't give up on the show, and then two thousand

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Speaker 1: downloads later, won't. Um. It was a song that was

519
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Speaker 1: like a no I wrote it, Okay got it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wrote it. It It was it was kind of It

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Speaker 1: was on the first album as a bonus track. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean sold like crazy. And that's how

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Speaker 1: I got because I had already been turned down. I know.

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Speaker 1: That was after Yeah, during that time, I did like

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Speaker 1: a showcase and then failed and miserably. But then after

526
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Speaker 1: that I got signed because the Tree Hillers, And that's

527
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Speaker 1: why I always thank them at every show, because they

528
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Speaker 1: were there from the very beginning and you get recognized

529
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Speaker 1: most from that. That's cool. Yeah, no, it's fun. Do

530
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Speaker 1: you still get money from that show checks? I don't know.

531
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Speaker 1: I have to stream anywhere. It was on Netflix, but

532
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Speaker 1: they just took it off now it's yeah. People were

533
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Speaker 1: like real mad you get back to the girl though.

534
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Speaker 1: With me, Well, that kind of sucks for you to

535
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Speaker 1: a bit because as long as something's living and streaming,

536
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Speaker 1: you're still living as that character, which is pretty cool.

537
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Speaker 1: People are still finding you. Well it it's on Hulu though.

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Speaker 1: It's good as long as it's still up there somewhere.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah. There's like a fifteen year old that

540
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Speaker 1: came to me the other day. Oh my god, I

541
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: love your character one trial. I'm like, how old are you?

542
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Speaker 1: You're so young? How old are you when you were

543
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Speaker 1: doing that character? And now I'm five? Does it feel

544
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: like a lifetime ago? Amy and I were talking today.

545
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Speaker 1: She was like, do you ever talk to Jill? Jill's

546
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Speaker 1: my first co host ever? She was an intern that

547
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Speaker 1: I had the radio station. And I was like, I

548
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Speaker 1: haven't talked to him forever. Um, she's kind of mad

549
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Speaker 1: that she didn't go with, you know, because no, no,

550
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Speaker 1: this is a pretty way before we left. I met

551
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Speaker 1: her and then she got married. It was like I'm

552
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Speaker 1: just gonna go move to South Texas and like have

553
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Speaker 1: kids in a life. And I was like, great, she's awesome.

554
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Speaker 1: But I was like, man, it just feels like a

555
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Speaker 1: lifetime ago. It feels really when that happened. Yeah, it's

556
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Speaker 1: it's just strange. I remember. This is really weird. But

557
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Speaker 1: my high school sweetheart just came over to my house

558
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Speaker 1: about a couple weeks ago from Michigan. Yeah, well, he

559
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Speaker 1: lives in Nashville. Now and his wife is really a

560
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: colorful what is up? But I've met Tyler for like

561
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Speaker 1: a couple of times. He's so sweet, Like, he's so sweet,

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Speaker 1: I want to he actually is one of the most

563
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Speaker 1: genuine people in the industry. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 1: But no, I had Matthew over. He's this guy that

565
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: I got like saying I got the boy about and

566
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Speaker 1: she got the man. But they're just it's one of

567
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Speaker 1: those things where you look back and Matthew Ramsay from

568
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Speaker 1: old Dominion, go ahead? Is he famous? He works at

569
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Speaker 1: like I'll stop, but no, but he he's super sweet

570
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Speaker 1: and his wife is sweet. And the kids came over

571
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Speaker 1: and Michael and I were talking about it. It's just

572
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Speaker 1: it's such a different lifetime ago, like I don't remember.

573
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Speaker 1: That's super a long time ago. I'm in high school.

574
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Speaker 1: But it is funny because he goes, hey, Matthew, do

575
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Speaker 1: you want your all your love letters that you wrote

576
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Speaker 1: Janna because it's in a box in the garage. That's funny, Michael,

577
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Speaker 1: that's good. He's probably holding on a little bit though,

578
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Speaker 1: Like I kept him that I kept the love letters.

579
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: So your neighbors this new place know that you lived.

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Speaker 1: That's you there's only a couple of neighbors because it's

581
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: a new neighborhood. But I mean, I don't know. I

582
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: mean I don't know. I'm who am I? You know exactly,

583
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: And it goes to the whole thing of fame, Like, no,

584
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Speaker 1: I don't really believe that anyone. It's hard to be

585
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Speaker 1: universally famous anymore. Even the people that are the most

586
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: famous aren't as universally famous. Again, yes, there's like three

587
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, Beyonce Ish and you know Ariana but but she,

588
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: but she, But Taylor is from even from years ago too.

589
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking like new people now, like Oriana is the

590
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: biggest now post Malone. These people even actors. You could

591
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: go out with a picture and go, do you know

592
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: who this is? And they most people didn't even know

593
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande was where the pop star Britney spears when

594
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: she was twenty two? You got with then he picked

595
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: anywhere and be like, who's this? Because there are so

596
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: many ways to find things, you like Instagram, YouTube, Netflix,

597
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: there are p pulled it. I would go, holy crap,

598
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: that person is so cool and famous to me that

599
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: you would have no idea who it is. And the

600
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: same because there are just five thousand ways to consume

601
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: content is truly insane. So especially this YouTubers, I'm like,

602
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: who the heck? There was a YouTuber that moved across

603
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: street from us in l A. It was like a

604
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: freaking four million dollar house, twenty one year old twenty

605
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: one YouTuber. I was like, are you freaking kidding me?

606
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: And you would have no idea none that they're making

607
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: as much money as they're making zero. And I'm like,

608
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: what did I do wrong? Life? Have you met your neighbors?

609
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: Did you go over knock on the door and say so.

610
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: I had one neighbor come over and bring me chocolate

611
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: chip cookies because again, we only have about six seven

612
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: neighbors living in the community right now because all these

613
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: are all new builds. But I will be the person

614
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: that goes over to every new neighbor because I love

615
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: meeting people. My neighbors really well. Well. When I first

616
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: moved over here, it's not about a year now. I

617
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: bought the house from a guy who lives here, and

618
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 1: I came over. They they moved in while I wasn't here.

619
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: I was I was in l A working. Everything got

620
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: moved in, came it was driving out of my driveway

621
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: and the woman close to her stops me and she goes, hey,

622
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: excuse me. I was like, hey, what's happening. She goes,

623
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: do you live here now? And I was like I do.

624
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: She goes there were kids, and I was like, I

625
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: don't eat a wife, and I was like I don't,

626
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: like what do you do? Yeah? And I was like,

627
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: my name is Bobby Bones, bitch. I did not say

628
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: that in any way, and I didn't want to be like, hey,

629
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm on the radio or hey. I was just like

630
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm I was like, what can I say is the

631
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: most generic thing. So it's like so she knew I

632
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: was in the entertainment, and I was like, I'm an artist,

633
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 1: like I do books. I was just trying to get

634
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: her because how old was she? Okay, so yeah, she's

635
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: a little and so she was like, oh, she goes,

636
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: are you loud? And I said, I don't think so.

637
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: And the next day was one of those summer holidays

638
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: think like laboring. We had this humongous party in the

639
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: backyard with like a DJ and stuff. It was the

640
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: only day that I was loud, but yeah, she was.

641
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: She was trying to She was kind of sniffing me

642
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: out over there. But I haven't met anybody. I have

643
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: one neighbor that's like five houses down that's pretty famous

644
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: in a band, and he's come over and been like

645
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't here. He dropped me off and he's like, hey, welcome,

646
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: that's sweet. I'm kind of scared of the neighbor moving

647
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: in next door to us because she's an old lady

648
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: in hers she's like sixty five older sorry, and she's single,

649
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: she's a she's a widower. I'm terrified of her because

650
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: I have a feeling she's going to be an issue,

651
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: you know, like I just get that vibe from her

652
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 1: because I've I've met her a couple of times. If

653
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: she's well, I know, but I just feel like I'm

654
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: just because we're not loud, but like maybe the one

655
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: time we are, is she going to write us a letter?

656
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to be kicked out. Instead of a

657
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: last meal, if you're offered a last song to listen to,

658
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: what do you pick? Oh man, I'm like, super oh Fire,

659
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh Fire and Rain James Taylor, and what is that song?

660
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: That's what's the connection for you? Up North? So up

661
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: North is the most just give its name Susanne, the

662
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: plans they may put you when? Why this song? I

663
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: grew up listening to James Taylor and we would have

664
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: his songs on repeat at the fire pit outside up

665
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: North Michigan, and that place is just heaven to me.

666
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: It's the one place I think of whenever I'm anxious

667
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: and have my anxiety attacks. It's just the place that

668
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: centers me. And the song just really just calms me,

669
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: reminds me home. I was talking to Vince gild the

670
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: other day and him, him and James Taylor are really

671
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: great friends. And James Taylor just showed up at one

672
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: of his shows that in downtown that they play every

673
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Monday night, and James Tyler came out and played with him.

674
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, James in towns. I came out

675
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: and played. We didn't tell anybody I'm not going ever. Man, Hey,

676
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: I cool of that, James. J what's ther um? If

677
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: I had to pick a song like a death song,

678
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: my favorite song ever, well that's what it is, like

679
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: your last song. My favorite song ever is Ain't No

680
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: Sunshine by Bill Withers, Like that's my favorite song, So

681
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: that one probably this one? You know what movie? This

682
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: isn't well a lot like it's nothing him. That's my

683
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: favorite one. What I was going to say, it's so good,

684
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: but this is the song when he's like walking through

685
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: the season's so good. It's also in Will Ferrell and

686
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Vince Vaughan go back to College, Old School. You knew.

687
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: I've seen that once or twice. I don't remember. It's

688
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: but part though. You gotta watch Hill have a good

689
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: date night. What's the most expensive thing you ever held

690
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: in your hands? Oh? Gosh, the most expensive? Probably my ring? Yeah, yeah,

691
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: because it's on my hand. Did you buy your own ring?

692
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: You can play the fifth because I mean, I don't.

693
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't have any inside information. You don't. I the

694
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: first one was put on my credit card and I

695
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: got really upset about it. The first one, the first.

696
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: So this is my second ring because I would not

697
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: it on the first ring again. You needed like a

698
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: new start, new ring. Yeah, oh yeah, I was like,

699
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: I was like from the very first day, I was like,

700
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: I will never put this back on, so do what

701
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: you will with with with it. So that's pretty big.

702
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm not even someone who notices rings, but like you

703
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: had your hand because you're holding my dog and I

704
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: couldn't see your head. The ring was blocked. It was

705
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: like any clips. That's what I would say. I'm like this,

706
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: get you get cheated up? Absolutely, don't cry. What about

707
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: the opposite sex? Do you envy about the opposite side?

708
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: What about dudes? Are you man that were their confidence? Yeah?

709
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: You realize it's mostly a show, right? Is that? Just

710
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: as insecure as you are, we're we're told we have

711
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: to be held to a different standard and to be

712
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: a man, you gotta it's mostly a put on. Yeah.

713
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like you guys hold yourselves with more.

714
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: We exude a fakeness. Okay, well I appreciate that. I

715
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: won't feel as bad about myself. Then when I go

716
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: eight mile, when you go eight miles, I was telling

717
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: my therapist third day. I was like, look, I go

718
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: eight mile and I need to work on that. Help

719
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: me out. I know you're from Detroit. I know what

720
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: eight mile is. Like I go crazy, like I'll like

721
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I'll beat somebody. Is that a term? Is that a

722
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: term a new term or way old or Detroit term.

723
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: It's just like a Detroit term. So I have to

724
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: go eight mile is to go crazy? Yeah, like me

725
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: and my girl Christen breasts from Locash's wife, like, we're

726
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: we're besties and we're both from Detroit and we will

727
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: go eight mile on our people. Interesting. What's the most

728
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: absurd thing the US government could be hiding an area one? Um? Probably?

729
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to say just aliens because

730
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone would say that. So I would say,

731
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: who's the guy that shot Kennedy? Oh, you meet like

732
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: his body? Maybe Kennedy or no, no, Tupac. Oh like

733
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: literally to literally he's chilling there with aliens. That's a

734
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: good answer to bok hmm. Interesting. Oh, what's the one

735
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: thing you bought and you thought it was easy? Better

736
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: turning out to be extremely difficult when you actually attempted it? Wait, okay,

737
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: that's that's a mind game to say it again. What's

738
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: the one thing you thought was gonna be easy? Right?

739
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: Take out? What's the one thing? Read? What's the one

740
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: thing you thought was gonna be easy? Okay, but it

741
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: turned out to be extremely difficult. I mean I was

742
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: new marriage was going to be hard. I was new

743
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: being a mom would be hard. I would say probably

744
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: trying really difficult. You know, I'm just I have are

745
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: really bad anxiety I think just getting a handle on that.

746
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Like you think it's easy because you think it's all

747
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: in your head, but it's really not. Like I have

748
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: like real bad anxiety, and I do too. The last

749
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: few weeks been pretty good for me. Like I don't understanding.

750
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: I begged. I was on my way to Anaheim to

751
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: do a show, and it's usually when I'm not with

752
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: the kids, but I was like, I went psycho. I

753
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: was like, Michael, you cannot get on this flight, like

754
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: you cannot go home. He's like, Babe, it like I

755
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: have to get back to the kids because we were

756
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: shopping our docuseries two stations and or to networks or whatever.

757
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: And I was just like, you can't get on, Like, Michael,

758
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: you don't understand, like I'm gonna have. I went into

759
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: like a full blown psychopanic attack and I'm like, this

760
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: is just this is getting kind of out of control.

761
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: Did he know that you were prone to those pre

762
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I was on a little bit higher of medicine and

763
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get off because I don't want

764
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: to be on medicine. And I know now that I'm like, Okay,

765
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: this is anxiety or not dying, like you're not having

766
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: a heart attack, Like, just go through it. But I

767
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: have a hard time, Like I've got Zannis in my

768
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: first but I'll never take it for me. I was

769
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: on I was on medicine. I've been tried a bunch

770
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: of I mean, I'm still on lexapro but very low

771
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: dos and I should go piano, very high tones. Yeah,

772
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: it didn't affect me. I took antidepressant for a while.

773
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: It just didn't help. It didn't affect anything either way,

774
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: good bad. It just did nothing. And I took it

775
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: for two months because my doctor was like, hey, get

776
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: on these because I was having severe PTSD from childhood,

777
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: from being jumped, having a gun to my head, death threats,

778
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and so I couldn't close my

779
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: eyes without seeing somebody attacking me. And he was like, hey,

780
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you on I'm not even what what's

781
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: what's another clown upends what it was? Boom, thank you.

782
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: And I got on it two months and nothing happened. Nothing, nothing,

783
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: I felt, not up, not doubt, nothing, and it's like,

784
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: all right, occasionally you get someone that doesn't affect. And

785
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: so then I got I started taking sleeping pills and

786
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: I got it was too hard. I was struggling. Yeah,

787
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: And then I got off and get so sick because

788
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: I just like, I'm not taking like you're saying. I

789
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: just went that's it, I'm done. I cut off and

790
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: I vomited and got so sick. Then it was the

791
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: closest I've ever felt to my mom, because my mom

792
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: had My mom had already died from drugs, but she

793
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: never got clean. She was on meth and she's done

794
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, but she she couldn't get clean

795
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: because she would go through a draw and it would

796
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: be so hard, and I didn't understand. And I went

797
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: through something was a fraction of what she would have

798
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: had to go through what she tried to go through,

799
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I finally kind of understand

800
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: what she and I didn't fully underst in but like

801
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: a twelfth of what she was going through. I was

802
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: so sick and miserable, and so I got off of

803
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: that and then I would take zama X occasionally. Um,

804
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: and I'm taking about once or twice a week, and

805
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I haven't taken anything in a long time, and I say,

806
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: like two long time, two months when I'm taking anything,

807
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: and I'm finally starting to feel all right for the

808
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: first time ever. Maybe it's a dog a little bit.

809
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm also taking. Maybe you're just finding peace in your life.

810
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Not really, I don't have not peace. I'm pretty happy

811
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, things are doing amazing for you.

812
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: But you know how that is. One you sacrifice one

813
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: side to get the other, and then why you have

814
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: the other? You're going God, the other side sucks, right?

815
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: So is that why you don't drink? Why? Oh yeah,

816
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: my dad was an alcoholic. I don't even call him

817
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: my dad. He left when I was five or six,

818
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: so I don't know him. So you just fear that

819
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: you're going to have that trade. I do have the trade.

820
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I have addictive personality everything I do, but not but

821
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: just to work. I feel like, what else are you

822
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: say anything? It doesn't matter if I get into something,

823
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm into it all the time, really like a book boxing.

824
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't just work. I just try to channel it

825
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: in healthy ways. I mean it's good that you know that. Yeah,

826
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: I'm pretty self aware when it comes to them. So,

827
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so you're doing so you won't take the

828
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: zanex because it helps me? See, that's the thing. I'm

829
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: just I'm so freaking anxious that I'm like, I'm afraid

830
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: to take the zanexause I'm afraid. I'm like, oh my god,

831
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: what's this feeling. Now I'm feeling weird, and now I

832
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: just get so in my head. And that's why I

833
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: haven't been drunk. That's why I don't do like crazy things.

834
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: It's just but it's taking over my life because there's

835
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I don't do because I'm

836
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: too afraid to go do it because I'm afraid that,

837
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's going to be like two hours

838
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: away from my home. And if I'm two hours awa

839
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: from my home, then I'm gonna have anxiety check and

840
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna know anybody. And then I mean, I

841
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: just like, I let my brain take it over. You

842
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: drink it all. I drink red wine every night. How

843
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: much glass? I don't even know what the difference is.

844
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: You could say, I only realize there's four glasses of

845
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: wine in a bottle. There is I have no I

846
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: thought there. That's why people mostly get a bottle, because

847
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: if you're going to have more than one glass, it's

848
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: fair to just get a bottle. Was telling me. I

849
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: was like, there's only four glasses and a bottle of wine.

850
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, what do you think to was?

851
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was like limitless, It's like the bottomless Mohito. Yeah,

852
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: I I couldn't believe. So when people play like a

853
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: hundred bucks for a glass of wine, for a bottle

854
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: of wine of glass, it's pretty crazy. Can you take

855
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: the difference and really expensive wine? Yeah, that's the thing.

856
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Like I am a snob with my wine because I'm like,

857
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to just get drunk, like

858
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: I want to enjoy really good wine. So I kind

859
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: of my friends do not like to drink my wine

860
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: because they're like, damn it, now I gotta go back

861
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: to two buck Chuck, what's happening with you now? So

862
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: you're going to shoot this movie? Are you still you

863
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: can talk about the docuseries? Why I'll bring this up?

864
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: Are you still planning to pursue music as your number one? So?

865
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: Nothing is the only thing that's number one in my

866
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: life is my family. That is number one. My kids.

867
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: My kids are my number one, like they're my life.

868
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: I love them to death, So they're number one, which

869
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: Michael is and not to family. I have a song

870
00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: coming out um August. I believe I have songs lined up.

871
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: I have like just I'm just releasing singles for the

872
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: next couple of months. That's how I'm doing it, Honestly,

873
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: it's the only way that I can do it that's

874
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: gonna be beneficial for me because to make an album

875
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: super expensive, and so I'm just putting out singles. I'm

876
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: doing that, and then I am going to be releasing

877
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: dates for the wind Down tour that Michael and I do,

878
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: which is so much fun because it's like a comedy

879
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: show meets a therapy session meets UM I sing at

880
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: the end of it, so it's a really fun event.

881
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: We had We tested it in May and it was

882
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: incredible to people that came. So we're just we're really

883
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: trying to grow that and we've got ten dates that

884
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: we're announcing later this month, so we're so excited about that.

885
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: That will be in October, November, December, and then we're

886
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: we pitched a docuseries, so we've already shot it. We

887
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: shot okay, so shout basically the pilot or the sizzle

888
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: for the pilot. Yeah, So we went out to eat

889
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: and c mt UM Lifetime USA. So we're waiting to

890
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: hear back from that. And then I've got a few

891
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: other things that I'm cranking. I've got a new line

892
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: at tell our General Julian Jay's line, pick up the

893
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: little what is it? What's the we'll start, Well, it's

894
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: going to be eventually a big old home line, but

895
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: right now it's uh like water tumblers and stuff like that.

896
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Water tumblers like you know, well, yeah, right, isn't that

897
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: author called tumbling? I just did because I'm like, I'm

898
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: very new to this because I've just stopped drinking plastic

899
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: bottle water and I've just started, like I do extra now,

900
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 1: which is fine. Get the home system, it's really good.

901
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: It's really because you stop buying plastic bottles and then

902
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: I'll send you a Jolian Jay's tumbler. So I'm doing that.

903
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: And then then Michael and I we have something else

904
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: that's really exciting that we'll be doing. I can't announce it, yeah,

905
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: but that's we're working on that. It gets released next year.

906
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: So we're kind of like doing a bunch of little

907
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: things and hopefully hope it sticks and be fantastic. If

908
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: you got a show like a there's nothing wrong with

909
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: the word reality is not a bad thing anymore. Anytime

910
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: you can get yourself anywhere, it's fantastic. You just exposure,

911
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: is it, as long as you could do it on

912
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: mostly your terms? Yeah, And that's the thing. Like I've

913
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: been really hard, Like I would love a docuseries. I

914
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: think it'd be really fun. I hate to say reality

915
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: it's just more docut, but you know it's It also

916
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: could affect the acting side of things. But at the

917
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: same time, I have a family I need to support

918
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: and I want to keep being authentic and living my

919
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: life and showing my life because that's what I've enjoyed doing.

920
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: So I just hope something like that works. And then

921
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: and then I'm also doing correspondent work for Extra so

922
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm really pumped about that too. That starts in September.

923
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: It's I have a friend and I won't say it

924
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: on this because they will get in trouble, but they

925
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they as well. I'm gonna hear her,

926
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: So don't don't because you know you'll know when I

927
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: say this how sensitive it is. Um, they're doing Dancing

928
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: with the Stars this next season. And whenever I was

929
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: considering and then after I started. I would call you

930
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, this is all in charted territory

931
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: for me, am I supposed to feel this way at

932
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: this point, and like I would call you and you'll

933
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: be like, okay, I also struggled here, and I also

934
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: had crazy insecurity and inferiority complaint and all that, and

935
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so I'm not the only one

936
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: that's and you're like, no, this is so I'm now talking.

937
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: It's we're just like generationally going through Dancing with the Stars.

938
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: It's like you're you're gonna be basically the grandma this

939
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: person because you're like my my mom, and I'm like

940
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: their dad in the same age. But you did it before.

941
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: You're like one generation before, and so they're going on

942
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. I would do it again. I

943
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: would not. You would not. By the way, I love it.

944
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: I can't get it can't happen any better for me.

945
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: It's like I went in and one yeah, I can

946
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: say I can I can only diminish my reputation of

947
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: being a fantastic dancer. I won't win again. That was

948
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: that was incredible only to you because you knew the

949
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: grind of what really happens on this show and intense,

950
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: but it's it's like the greatest and that. But I

951
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: want to go back because I don't want to beat

952
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: myself up so much. I want to have more fun.

953
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I enjoyed myself. And you know

954
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: what you would say to have fun? If Peop would

955
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: say have fun, You're like, what do you mean? Have fun?

956
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: Going going nuts here? I can't do it. I want

957
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: to win. You're in your own bubbles, not how I

958
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: usually work, and this I don't know how to really

959
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: dance and what. So I told this person, it's gonna

960
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: be the hardest thing you've ever done ever. It's going

961
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: to be the most amazing experience of your life. And

962
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: you're not going to realize how amazing it is until

963
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: it's over, and you're gonna look back at it and go,

964
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was really the coolest thing because

965
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: you're training with a professional athlete for and it's something

966
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: you'll never do again. That way, it was fantastic. And

967
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: I have always said, when the new season starts, I'm

968
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna actually I don't talk about it as much anymore.

969
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: Stop talking about that's when my cut off. I thought

970
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: they were gonna do a summer season. I was like,

971
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: when they do it, I'll drop it. But I gotta

972
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: be the champion for the longer reigning champion, like the

973
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: longest time, the longest reigning champion in the history of

974
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. Boom, and you're coming back to

975
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: American Idol. Yeah, that's amazing. Excited? Yeah, yeah, because what's

976
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: your dream? Like? Is this? Are you living your actual

977
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: dream job? No? No, what is your dream? Um? Well,

978
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: I've told you mine, and I keep trying to ask

979
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: you to do it with me. My goal is to

980
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: My goal as a kid was always to do was

981
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: to be the day with Letterman. That was always my goal.

982
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: You are so freaking on the right track for that. Well,

983
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: I don't feel anymore you have to do a specific

984
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: time on a specific network, because there have been conversations

985
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: with a network where they said, hey, you can Eventually,

986
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna open this midnight spot. If the timing works out,

987
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: there's no reason that you wouldn't be in the running

988
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: for the late night show in three years. You just

989
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: have a good show on and you can put it

990
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: on Netflix, you put it on Hulu, you can put

991
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: it on Disney Plus. It's all shifting where Disney well,

992
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: Disney Plus is just UM. If you make Disney Plus

993
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: is their version of network. I forgot there doing that.

994
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: If you make UM something good, people will come to it.

995
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: It may take a second good content breeze, eyeballs and

996
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: ear bowls. But I still feel like you deserve like

997
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: an NBC CB. I don't think I deserve anything. And

998
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: it's all timing and there's the chips have to kind

999
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: of fall at the right time because uh, listen, I'm

1000
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: not the most talented person to be doing what I do.

1001
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: I just made some good decisions. I disagree. You have

1002
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: to still be good at what you do. Okay, I'm

1003
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: good at what I do, But even on idol, there

1004
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: are people that could mentor better than I'm good at television,

1005
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: not like okay, well okay, I'm but I'm just saying like,

1006
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: and from an outsider standpoint, that's not true because you

1007
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: actually like you have like these people that you have

1008
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: the same insecurities as the people that come in are

1009
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: able to relate. Definitely, a life coach, shut up, couldn't

1010
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: give you a life coach. I don't know. I don't

1011
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: but from someone that watched I'm like fine, Scott's fine,

1012
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: but for a different reason though, But Scott also had

1013
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: more clout to go. I run a label. I started fine,

1014
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: but I'd rather connect to somebody. They like that about

1015
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: me on television that I've been able to connect with them,

1016
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: and also go, let me pick a song for you

1017
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: or it's a good And I love the Idol people

1018
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: about the Dance with the People, I love them a

1019
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: dance with the stars, love them. I'm gonna go back

1020
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: for the for the first show, like we're trying to

1021
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: figure out, now what I'm going to do on the

1022
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: first show, Let's do something. Love them so much, but

1023
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: I would never do the show again because I can't.

1024
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: There's nothing for me to gain. Um, well, then you

1025
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: need to find me my my my counterpart for my

1026
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: dream job. Then, which is a porno? It is? Yeah,

1027
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: it is soft porn. It's just slight like not I'd

1028
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: prefer the left boob over the right. The right boob

1029
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: has a little more sausage to it. So um and

1030
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: idle people are great. And then I didn't know if

1031
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: I was coming back for sure, because the judges don't

1032
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: know if they were coming back, and they kind of

1033
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: put us all on a holding pattern, and it all

1034
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: kind of dominoede like once the judges got one. Once

1035
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: they could pay Katie Perry dollars. I'm not sure what

1036
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: our deal was this time, but they all make a

1037
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: lot of money. And it's not Here's the thing that

1038
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: I've learned too, and you know this too. It's not

1039
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: about well, Luke, let's just say we'll use one dollar. Well,

1040
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: like like one dollars a ton of money. Luke doesn't

1041
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: deserve one dollar. All he does is sit up there.

1042
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: And but what happens is is that because they have Luke,

1043
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: advertisers want to buy on the show. People watch ratings,

1044
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: do what they do, and they can get X amount

1045
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: of dollars for advertising. And so that's why that's why

1046
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm worth a bunch on the radio show, not because

1047
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm any better, and I think I am and just

1048
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: generally I feel I feel like I'm really good at

1049
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: what I do. But it's because advertisers spend so much money.

1050
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: They know that me I can bring bring advertisers and

1051
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: advertisers will spend Therefore they're like, well, we should pay

1052
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: him more. Like I just went to a huge contract

1053
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: and everybody was offering me a job every platform you

1054
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: can think of. I don't want to say anybody names. No,

1055
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: it's not a poor thing. I'm just saying this isn't.

1056
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't come off as bragge. I'm just

1057
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: kind of telling the story that and it wasn't because

1058
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: they were like, Oh, you're the funniest or most relatable.

1059
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: They're like, if you come, we'll be able to sell

1060
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: this show to advertisers. All that's the name of the game.

1061
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Did you know that they knew from the first episode

1062
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: that you were going to win Dancing with the Stars? Um,

1063
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: they were surprised by the first episode that people vote

1064
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: that I had as many people voting. I was finally

1065
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: told that after it was over. They go, hey, uh,

1066
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: because they the producer told me they knew from night

1067
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: one that you were going to win after night one

1068
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: was over there well after the voting, because they had

1069
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: no idea. They didn't. Here's the thing about the people

1070
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: in the in Middle America. They love somebody. Yes they yes,

1071
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: that's not my point. LA in New York don't understand

1072
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: the power of normal folks. They're going, Oh, if you're

1073
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: not La in New York, you don't matter. I just

1074
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: represented somebody who has the Middle America appeal because I'm

1075
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: that's me, and so people were like, this is our guy. Definitely,

1076
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: they definitely were this is a good dancing guy. They

1077
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: were like, this is our guy. We're going And I

1078
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: think I won a small fraction of show viewers too,

1079
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: because I just didn't know the rules. I've never seen

1080
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, you lost your mind. There were times

1081
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: whre I got emotionally. It was so good. I was

1082
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: finally a quote told to me, and I never knew

1083
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: that because they keep you unlock. Oh. I mean, val

1084
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: barely told me that you even accepted it. One of

1085
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: the producers. I was like, I know he's calling me.

1086
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: I know he's on the show. It's so unluck and

1087
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: they don't tell us anything. All I knew is I

1088
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: was never in Jeopardy, And about two weeks after it

1089
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: was over, I was told by an executive quote, you

1090
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: could have taken a dump on the floor and walked

1091
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: off and still won the show because your people were

1092
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: voting so hard. That's I mean, look at that, Look

1093
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: what you've built. You know, that's incredible that they have

1094
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: followed you. I think we me I wouldn't be here again,

1095
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't just don't think I'm the most be here

1096
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: without Amy wouldn't be here with that much. I'm just

1097
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: talking about the people. I'm none of us will be

1098
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: here without the listeners. Like that's why I do so

1099
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: much with them because I just owe them so much.

1100
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: Um So that being said, it's amazing. Anyway, I was

1101
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: talking to this person who's going on the show, and

1102
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking about you because I was like, I

1103
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: used to call Jan all the time. So I was

1104
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: like volunteering. I'm here, I'm here. You're gonna need a here,

1105
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna feel like crap, You're gonna feel and if

1106
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: you need something, let me know, much like you did

1107
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: for me. So I appreciate that. No, of course, I mean,

1108
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm always here for people that you know have

1109
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: gone through that and need a friend. So um at

1110
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Speaker 1: Cranmer Girl on Instagram. Check out the wine Down podcast

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Speaker 1: which is the I Heart Radio Podcast winner for Entertainment

1112
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Speaker 1: TV category. And if you see her on the wrote

1113
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Speaker 1: this thing these things left forever. Obviously you know how

1114
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Speaker 1: this works. Um Jannah Cramer dot com for wind Down tickets.

1115
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Speaker 1: There you go. You can buy her new tumbling lines, gymnastics,

1116
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: all that. Um, we'll listen. We've done close to an hour.

1117
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Yeah, it's real good. Can I just

1118
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: need to talk about the girl really fast? I tried

1119
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: to help, it's not gonna happen, but I know. I

1120
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, I tried to set you up

1121
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: with my friend and I I messaged her and she

1122
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: never mentioned me back. Can I tell you why? Because

1123
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: you hung out with one of her friends? Say that

1124
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: I just found out, like literally because I was like,

1125
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm on my way over to Bobby's. Why haven't you

1126
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: just a while ago? Then? No, like today, well, yes,

1127
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: when you hung out with her friends. Yes, it was

1128
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: a while ago, and she's like, I just felt weird

1129
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: about it. That's fine, but it didn't say I know.

1130
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: I know you were like, hey, you should message. She didn't.

1131
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: She like went ice on me. I'll show you the

1132
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: text message like she just test text me back with

1133
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: Tommy the girl. What's up? Well, don't say her name?

1134
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: And this has been delayed because I can only show

1135
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: stories delayed because people can be kind of do you

1136
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: figure it out? So this is delayed by a bit,

1137
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: are you Yeah, I'll just write the story. It's still

1138
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: let no one knows the story, not even my Mike

1139
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: doesn't know the story. Really love getting the juice. Um,

1140
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: so I met this girl. Let's say, don't just let's nuts.

1141
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: Let's say in a work environment. That's all I do

1142
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: is work, right, Okay, it could have been a live show,

1143
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: it could have been TV, it could have been I

1144
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: will say this, I met the girl in Nashville, So

1145
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: it eliminates one half of my So what wasn't an

1146
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: l A that's a girl in Nashville. Um. And it

1147
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: was just it was like, hey, it's it was cool. Um.

1148
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: And so we started following on Instagram. And we don't

1149
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: know if we do anymore. But I know, coum you

1150
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: got a couple of seconds six No, no, we don't

1151
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: have We're good. I'm not about that. You're a non follower,

1152
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Well just hold on from this story. Only just post me, okay,

1153
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: not post me. So we were so you just I

1154
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: comment on people stories that I think. I send you

1155
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: a message on your story sometimes like hey that's funny,

1156
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: that's whatever. And so we were commenting nothing to it,

1157
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: like two months had gone by. We're just coming nothing.

1158
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: It was at all super super light, and then it

1159
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: was like I don't want of us, like, hey, we

1160
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: should hang out. Maybe it was me. I'll just say

1161
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: it was me for the sake of the story. It

1162
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: probably was. And she was like cool. So we we're

1163
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna hang out the first time, and I got sick

1164
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't hang out. I feel terrible. Um,

1165
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: I was sick. And then the next time we're gonna

1166
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: hang out, she was like, oh, I had some crap

1167
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: come up. Can't hang out, gotta cancel. I'm like all right, cool,

1168
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm down one. Anyway, we're back to even. So finally

1169
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: we end up going to UH to have lunch somewhere fantastic.

1170
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Were back and forth, funny, she's cool whatever, have like

1171
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: minded interests and philosophy these and so I'm like, well

1172
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: that was cool. And she had messed because she saw

1173
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: me do something on TV and she was like, I

1174
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: just thought you just popped on my TV. Do anything

1175
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: that's cool. I'm watching right now. I was like cool,

1176
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: And she meant me the same night after we had

1177
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: lunch the first time we hung out, and I was like, oh, well,

1178
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: she kind of came back at me three hours later.

1179
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good sign. Right. So I had a

1180
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: friend over. We were writing some comedy songs for this

1181
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: tour that I'm on now is a bit ago, and

1182
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, it doesn't matter the friend is. He

1183
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: was like, hey, something about it. And I was like, hey,

1184
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: do you know this girl? Yeah? And he goes, yeah,

1185
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: I know her and her boyfriend. And I was and

1186
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like wait what. He goes, yeah,

1187
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm friends with her and her boyfriend. And I was like, dude,

1188
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: I know she had a boyfriend. Let me tell you

1189
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: what happened. And he's like huh, and he's like, maybe

1190
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: she just was And then I started to go maybe

1191
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: she was just being friendly. Maybe I read the whole

1192
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: thing wrong. I don't know. She never wance I hear.

1193
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: So here's a thing she never wants to mention, ever

1194
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: mentioned a boyfriend. And but here's what I worry about

1195
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: in Nashville because she isn't. Everybody that I know is

1196
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: involved somehow in the music business. It's this the industry

1197
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: that we're in. And I'm going, oh, she playing me like,

1198
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: because oh that's sad. Oh that's how I feel about

1199
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: everybody here. I'm sorry. That's why when you were like,

1200
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: I have a friend who does hair. I was like,

1201
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: does she have a song out? And You're like no.

1202
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: I was like, boom, oh, I'm sorry. That sucks. That

1203
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: must hit you. You want to be like you want

1204
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: to hear another bad one? Yeah, I have a really

1205
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: bad one. I'm really sorry. Don't you have a journalist

1206
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: that one? Can I tell that? When you think? I think, so,

1207
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: what was your question? Do you want to hear one

1208
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: more story here? I do? I just that makes me

1209
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: feel bad for you. That's how I treat everything here

1210
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: in this town now, with girls and even dudes. When

1211
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: I did dudes too, but um, even like got friends,

1212
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm always like why does this person want to be

1213
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: And then it turns out so I don't trust anybody,

1214
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: just me and Mike, and even Mike's got a girlfriend now,

1215
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: he said, I go on for a year. Sorry, but

1216
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: I think that. I think I also will now stop

1217
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: relationships unfairly because I've just kind of been burned a

1218
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: few times that way where I'm like, I just probably

1219
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: not right. What's the journalist one? Um, so I'm on that.

1220
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: I guess I was on a lot more. I was like, yeah,

1221
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: and it's worked out for me wonderfully, because I've met

1222
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: some really cool people from that app Um, not even

1223
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: people that are like romantically date, but I was like, oh,

1224
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: I know you from something and you just start talking

1225
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: and you never go out. But so I've made some

1226
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: good good friends. Oh, I don't know if I can

1227
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: tell this story, Mike, not not because the girl, but

1228
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: because of because what I'll give you. It's some of

1229
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: the information is super sensitive. I'll tell you this. I

1230
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: she's a journalist. We're hanging out. I said something. We're

1231
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: just driving in her car and I was like, hey,

1232
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: so and so inside information about show. Just thinking I

1233
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: was talking. She freaking wrote a story about it. The

1234
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: next day she did not and I was like I

1235
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, wait, are you serious?

1236
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, we dress. I don't know if

1237
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: that means I ever seen that dresses, but yeah, she

1238
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: got me. Oh man, I'm so sorry. So I messaged

1239
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: her back and I was like, I sent her the

1240
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: link and I was like, hey, how'd you get this information?

1241
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: She was like, oh, I got a source. And I

1242
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: was like, m it wasn't me. Yeah. I was like

1243
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: this is me and I said and talking about it's

1244
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: not true yet, and she was like, no, I've been

1245
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: told and to this day it's still not true because

1246
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: it's still but but you were like kind of dating her.

1247
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: We've been out and we were out. Yeah, and that

1248
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: it sucks. I'm so sorry. So I got burned pretty

1249
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: hard on that one. So I've just been kind of

1250
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: roasted a few times. So now you're just kind of

1251
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: taking out. Ain't no sunshine, And she's always gone. She

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Speaker 1: goes away. So when you go, hey, what's what's what's

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Speaker 1: happening with me? I'm always like nothing. And really it's

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Speaker 1: most taking a beat. I'm just taking a life. I'm

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Speaker 1: thirty nine, I'm done. What Oh God, nook out the

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Speaker 1: wine down I guess with Janna Kramer at Kramer Girl,

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Speaker 1: and get yourself a tumbler when it comes out there.

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Speaker 1: It is all right, thank you. I'll tell you all

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Speaker 1: THEDEO of the real story. Okay, that's the real story.

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Speaker 1: But there was just information I can't say because it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't respect. We need to wrap this up. I need

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Speaker 1: to hear all the dirty beat. I need to know

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Speaker 1: what friend I supposed to hanging out with. Her name

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Speaker 1: is so sweet. Okay, okay,