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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones joins us right here on the Kancy Masterpiece

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Speaker 1: on one oh five three the fans, Stephen, are you

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Speaker 1: guys on Cloud nine after the pick last night? We

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Speaker 1: are we're uh, you know, it's one of those you

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Speaker 1: wake up and it feels even better. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know you had some you know, a little

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Speaker 1: bit anks there because you know, we were thinking coming in,

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Speaker 1: you know, defense might get a little priority over that

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Speaker 1: receiver spot. But as uh, you know we've mentioned several

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Speaker 1: times before the draft started, certainly, uh, receiver you know,

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Speaker 1: was certainly an area that we wanted to address in

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Speaker 1: this draft. But you know when it when it played

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Speaker 1: out there and Ceedee Lamb was sitting there, you know,

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Speaker 1: who was our best receiver on the board, sixth receiver

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Speaker 1: on our board, six player on our board. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was just too too good to pass up. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know he's a competitor. He's been a great player

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Speaker 1: there at Oklahoma. I think he's gonna be a great fit, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know in our offense and compliment a Mari and

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup and Blake jarr when is Zeke and back

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Speaker 1: and had great offensive line. Uh, you know that we

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Speaker 1: put together. You know, I think our offense is in

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Speaker 1: great shape. Was there, So there was I mean no

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Speaker 1: hesitation at all when you see ceedee lamb, and you

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Speaker 1: still had these other plans that you were already thinking about. Well,

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Speaker 1: you play out everything. I mean, you go through it,

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Speaker 1: you always do. Uh. You know, we were kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, had a group of players there. When we

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Speaker 1: start to get about four or five picks out, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of starting to look at the guys you've

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Speaker 1: uh you know would be interesting and picking that are

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Speaker 1: still out there. And certainly a lot of those guys

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Speaker 1: were coming off the board as we uh moved down

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Speaker 1: toward our pick, we were eliminating possibilities. But certainly when

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Speaker 1: it got there, we uh you know, entertained as Jerry said,

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Speaker 1: I think three different trade opportunities. And then uh I

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Speaker 1: certainly looked at a couple of other players that we

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Speaker 1: had ranked high on our board. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, you know, our uh, you know, our

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Speaker 1: gut instincts prevailed that you take the best player available,

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Speaker 1: and you know, those things, you know, work themselves out

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Speaker 1: in terms of you know, how it plays out. And

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Speaker 1: as we said, I mean that receiver position was something

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Speaker 1: that we did want to address, you know, at some

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Speaker 1: point early in the draft, you know, to replace the

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Speaker 1: loss of Cop Stephen. Were those trade opportunities coming, like

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Speaker 1: a picked fifteen or sixteen or did your phones get

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Speaker 1: flooded when cde Lamb, a guy that most people probably

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Speaker 1: had rated higher than seventeen on their board, was there

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Speaker 1: available to try to trade up for. We got one

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Speaker 1: call about two picks out that said they were going

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Speaker 1: to be interested in our pick, and then we got

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Speaker 1: two calls while we were on the clock, so you know,

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Speaker 1: that was kind of how that played out. But two

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Speaker 1: of them while we were on the clock, and one

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Speaker 1: of them that was given us a call that you

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Speaker 1: know that they'd be interested in the pick if we

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Speaker 1: were willing to come out of it. Can you I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you just know this information off hand

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Speaker 1: or if you can share it with us. How many

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Speaker 1: remaining first round grades that are still out there for

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Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah, we don't like to get into disclosing

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Speaker 1: that before it's time, but we still have a player

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Speaker 1: or two that we have first round grade down. If

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Speaker 1: that's the case, then, and you talked about teams calling

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Speaker 1: you do you guys, overnight this morning, whenever it is,

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Speaker 1: do you sit there and say, hey, do we think

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Speaker 1: enough of this player that we would want to try

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Speaker 1: to make a run at one of the early earlier

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Speaker 1: picks in this round. You know, it's you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the things you got to take into an account here, guys,

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Speaker 1: is it's you know, when there's just a you know,

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Speaker 1: a tenth of a point. You know, in our grading system,

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Speaker 1: you know, the lowest first round grade you can have

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Speaker 1: is a one one eight, and then the next grade

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Speaker 1: down is a one two oh. I mean, when we

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Speaker 1: have a you know, half a dozen one two oh

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Speaker 1: one eight. As you can see, there's barely a difference, yeah,

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Speaker 1: in terms of you know, the deal there, and you

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Speaker 1: got to really decide whether you'd rather have just one

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Speaker 1: player or two players. And because you're obviously going to

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Speaker 1: have to give up a significant pick to move from

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Speaker 1: the middle of the second to the top of the second,

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Speaker 1: you're probably talking about giving up your third round pick.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you really feel that pain, because

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Speaker 1: we feel like we've got a great board up and

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Speaker 1: we feel like we're going to get two really good

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Speaker 1: football players. By sitting still, it's real painful to to

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Speaker 1: want to move up Stephen as a Cowboy fan, I'm

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Speaker 1: calling my father, I'm calling my friends, We're texting each other.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to go to sleep after the first round.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wanting from your perspective, because you're the you're

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Speaker 1: part of the decision making on making now the second

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Speaker 1: round pick, in the third round pick, how tough is

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Speaker 1: it for you to go to sleep without wanting to

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Speaker 1: call up Jerry and call up Mike McCarthy, called Will McClain,

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Speaker 1: just start having a thousand conversations in before you know it,

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Speaker 1: at seven am, you're like, holy cow, it's ready for

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Speaker 1: the next day. Well, that's how it works. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously your adrenaline's pumped, and you know, usually you're up

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Speaker 1: there together, so you end up sitting up sitting up

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Speaker 1: there half to you know, deep into the morning, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, really enjoying you know, what you've done, but

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Speaker 1: knowing that you know, the good news about this is

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Speaker 1: we don't pick again till the night, so you kind

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Speaker 1: of got the data, you know, really start to talk

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Speaker 1: about your strategy for the next day and which we've

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Speaker 1: already started on. But you know, it is hard, and

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Speaker 1: you know it was particular hard last night because you're

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Speaker 1: not together. But we did sit on a while, and

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Speaker 1: then of course, as you know, we had a press conference.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that ended until about twelve fifteen,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it was certainly a late night, early

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Speaker 1: morning type deal. But we're certainly you know, that adrenaline

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Speaker 1: is still going and we're ready to get some great

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Speaker 1: football players. Stephen, what kind of what kind of player

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Speaker 1: in y'all's mind do you see Ceedee Lamb becoming? What

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Speaker 1: kind of comparison would you say you see with him

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Speaker 1: to a player that may have already played in the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we look at a slot receiver kind of

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Speaker 1: like a nickel corner. I mean, they're starters this day

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Speaker 1: and time, in this space game we play. You know,

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Speaker 1: you just they're gonna play a big majority of your

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Speaker 1: us in terms of you know, he'll probably start in

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Speaker 1: you know, so valuable to us in terms of how

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Speaker 1: we had him rated on our board as he can

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Speaker 1: improve and you know, he's a smart player that can

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Speaker 1: play all three spots. He can go in the slot,

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Speaker 1: natural that they're in, the slide, a great route and runner.

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Speaker 1: You know, so many things we can do with him.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Mr has got some of that same flexibility in

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Speaker 1: terms of being able to play in the slot. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a good group. And then at some point,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll have to make a decision. You know,

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Speaker 1: when Gallup comes up for contract, you know that's gonna

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Speaker 1: hard to keep, uh, you know, to keep everybody. So

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Speaker 1: you know, he eventually obviously, you know, and make his way.

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Speaker 1: And we had a grade that you know said that

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Speaker 1: the guy quickly works his way into being a number

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Speaker 1: one caliber type receivers. So you know, he sits all

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Speaker 1: the all the all the options that you want there

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Speaker 1: in terms of, uh, finding a great receiver. And as

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Speaker 1: you know this day in time, you need three of them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we we've transitioned. We got lucky. We had

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Speaker 1: a great player there in Cole Beasley, who did a

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Speaker 1: lot of great things out of the slot. Obviously, CD's

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Speaker 1: of course in the Cob who did a great job

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Speaker 1: for us last year. And you know, you know, with

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Speaker 1: Mike's history and the way he's moved the ball, he's

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Speaker 1: always uh you know, wanted the deep set of receivers,

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Speaker 1: and this certainly helped us get that done. Well. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we should be hyping up Michael Gallop too

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Speaker 1: much because we want to keep that price low, So

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Speaker 1: let's not talk too much positive about him and how

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Speaker 1: much money he's gonna cost. We're gonna to keep those

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Speaker 1: prices low. I'm curious if you could. I know you

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Speaker 1: kind of talked about it, but can you walk us

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Speaker 1: through balancing I guess all of your emotions leading into

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Speaker 1: that pick, because I know you don't want to like

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Speaker 1: fall in love with one specific player, but you're also

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Speaker 1: trying to handle draft moves. You're waiting to see what

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Speaker 1: the teams in front of you do. Like you are

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Speaker 1: you sitting waiting for that Atlanta pick, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: don't be Cede Lamb or like walk us through some

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Speaker 1: of those emotions while you're also trying to balance do

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Speaker 1: we trade this pick? What do we do? You know,

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Speaker 1: in general, you do your homework and you do a

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Speaker 1: pretty good job of it. But ever now and then

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Speaker 1: you get the surprise, and the surprise this year, of course,

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Speaker 1: was Cede Lamb being there. You start, you know, when

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Speaker 1: first of all, there wasn't a receiver picked in the

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Speaker 1: top ten, and then the first one was right. You know,

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Speaker 1: we thought it would be either uh, you know, we

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Speaker 1: and when he goes and you start to think, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna have one of our type receivers fall

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Speaker 1: right in our lap. And then of course we're monitoring

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Speaker 1: the other players that we like on the board, so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a trying not to pay a lot

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Speaker 1: of attention to it, you know, in the first ten picks.

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Speaker 1: But once you get to that pick ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: the adrenaline starts to rise and you know you're uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, you're getting ready to be on

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Speaker 1: the board inside of a inside of an hour, so uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you really start to you know, go through

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Speaker 1: all the different mascinations in your mind. You've obviously gone,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the things you need if there was

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Speaker 1: just the right trade there, and what it would take

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Speaker 1: depending on which team calls. You know, you really start

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Speaker 1: to get prepared once you get about six seven picks out. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: last question for you, and we'll let you get back

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Speaker 1: to work, is how important is today with your two

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Speaker 1: picks to address defensive needs. Yeah, obviously, we've been very

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Speaker 1: upfront that we want to help the defense out, and

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Speaker 1: the way our boards setting up here, we've got some

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Speaker 1: really great defensive players still left on the board that

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Speaker 1: you know certainly can do that for us, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like that, you know, we can more than likely

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Speaker 1: unless just the right situation presents itself. Let the draft

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Speaker 1: come to us, and I think when the nights all

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Speaker 1: said and done, we'll have a great opportunity to address

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Speaker 1: you know, to address the defense and hopefully come away

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Speaker 1: with two really good football players. Well. Obviously, all of

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation, which I'm very much a part of, appreciated

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Speaker 1: your pick last night, and we personally appreciate you jumping

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Speaker 1: on with us so many times these last two weeks

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Speaker 1: to go through everything leading into the draft. Well, great

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Speaker 1: being on with you guys, and let's have a great

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Speaker 1: weekend for our Cowboy fans and hopefully micro team a

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Speaker 1: much much better football team when we're all said and

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Speaker 1: done this weekend. Absolutely, thank you, Stephen, Thank you.