WEBVTT - Conversations About American TV Brands

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<v Speaker 1>What's Up?

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to another episode of No Senner's podcast

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<v Speaker 2>with your hosts now fuck That with your loaw glasses, Malone,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't no big political guy, bro, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't really you know what I guess. In the streets,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more aware of policies. I'm more of my world

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<v Speaker 2>of politics, you know what I mean, where the street

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<v Speaker 2>policies are dominant. But as far as American policies, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, I'm really I get it. I

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<v Speaker 2>get it makes sense to me to some degree. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's really hard for me because even like something like abortion,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I get kind of both sides of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably like more to the ladder of like you

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<v Speaker 2>probably shouldn't get abortions, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I do understand those.

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<v Speaker 2>Particular instances where somebody got raped and maybe somebody may

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<v Speaker 2>die if they deliver a child, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know I don't necessarily agree with the woman's

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<v Speaker 2>body because I just think that's such a disingenuous you know, debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Like just when I think about policies, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, My my problem is to me, they seem

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<v Speaker 2>too simple, like which.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones well just just how they should be.

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<v Speaker 2>America should be a country that depends on itself. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>now I don't know how that lines up right. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the fact we outsource so many things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? And even compared to like

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<v Speaker 2>my hip hop career, Like I feel like one thing

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<v Speaker 2>my hip hop career did take punishment in it was

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<v Speaker 2>too many things outsourced. When I first came into this business,

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<v Speaker 2>like I believed in bringing everything in house. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my older brother some of my team, they didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>understand that. They were so used to just you know

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<v Speaker 2>how they saw you know, rap and hip hop going

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<v Speaker 2>because they were more vested in it than I was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember walking in thinking to myself, like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to sell tickets to perform for somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to book the venue myself. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>press up my CDs and push them throughout the West

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<v Speaker 2>Coast myself. Like even how I wanted my own record

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<v Speaker 2>deal when Freeway Rick and Army Mani from John Street

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<v Speaker 2>both who homes shout out to them brothers, But they

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna give me seven hundred to seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars in two thousand and five to launch

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Division then, and that was my goal. I really

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<v Speaker 2>listened to Pool, my older brother. He wanted to do

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<v Speaker 2>the deal with Sony, like they wanted to do a

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<v Speaker 2>record deal with cash money in different people, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were more vested in hip hop. So I listened

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<v Speaker 2>to them. But where we at now, Like it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to listen to other people who aren't as vested,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still do listen even if I don't take

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<v Speaker 2>the advice. I listen, but I also know the path

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<v Speaker 2>I want to walk, and I'm still you know, tweaking

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<v Speaker 2>things because really this path doesn't exist today. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>last time this path existed was probably like in the

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<v Speaker 2>sixties and seventies, before you know, corporations got involved into

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<v Speaker 2>black music, you know what I mean, when you had

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<v Speaker 2>to do it yourself. And that's my mentality, Pete, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I really believe, like yo to make this happen for

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<v Speaker 2>Glasses and alone as an artist. Glasses is a is

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<v Speaker 2>a is a person of people. Like I've always done

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<v Speaker 2>well when it's me and people, but whenever you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get behind the curtain, like no artist is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to be There's not an artist today

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to do better in a room full of

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<v Speaker 2>strangers than me, you know what I mean, There's not

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<v Speaker 2>an artist today. And I could really say that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not an artist today that will do better in

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<v Speaker 2>a room full.

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<v Speaker 1>Of strangers than I would.

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<v Speaker 2>True, it don't matter which room it could be, the palos,

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<v Speaker 2>white folks that don't even like Negroes, to the streetest,

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<v Speaker 2>most violent negroes in the history of the world, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole spectrum, you know whatever, all colors in between. That's

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<v Speaker 2>always worked for me, and I know that that's been

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<v Speaker 2>my gift, that that worked for me. Well, I look

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<v Speaker 2>at the same with policies, whereas like I really believe

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<v Speaker 2>in America, bro that has that, that's forced to fin

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<v Speaker 2>for itself, that has to create its own products, that

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<v Speaker 2>has to create its own cars, that has.

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<v Speaker 1>To create everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Because to me, it makes sense to create jobs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you create jobs. Economy that pours into itself

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<v Speaker 2>and rewards itself. So to me, that's what makes it simple.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole concept of policy. Everything else is just bullshit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Every other part of it

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<v Speaker 2>to me, is just bullshit. Like that's the simple part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. This country should be pouring into itself, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and rewarding itself a porn. It should be this cycle

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<v Speaker 2>of things happening for Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that like the way I would illustrate, like

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<v Speaker 4>my opinion on how policy and the job market and

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<v Speaker 4>US economy works is like a like the Hoover dam.

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<v Speaker 3>Our economy needs to grow in advance.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's going to grow in advance faster than

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>So you don't want to like.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a big block of people stuck with these like

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<v Speaker 4>low paying pedestrian jobs that like really don't fit here.

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<v Speaker 4>So you kind of kind of but you have to

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<v Speaker 4>you have to manage the flow. You can't just open

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<v Speaker 4>and let all the water flood out like we did.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to hold a reservoir of domestic jobs while

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<v Speaker 4>you strategically, you know, let the water out of the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom at the same rate that it's coming in to

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<v Speaker 4>keep that water lying stable. And we don't do a

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<v Speaker 4>good job of that because people want to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>dump water or buy water downstream.

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<v Speaker 3>Or however the hell you want to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of crude oil. Do we need to depend on

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<v Speaker 1>another country for something else?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need to depend on what crude oil.

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<v Speaker 4>We were net oil exporters during the Trump era we

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<v Speaker 4>got We have so much freaking oil.

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<v Speaker 3>It's absurd.

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<v Speaker 4>We have so much fossil fuel and energy sources in

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<v Speaker 4>this country on our own land rights. It is utterly absurd.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just purely EPA policy because for whatever reason, Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>feel better about themselves when they buy oil from other

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<v Speaker 4>countries than when they buy it from here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I would like to believe now, this is

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<v Speaker 2>my intellect kicking in now. Obviously it's limited information, so

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even trust it as just intellect. But I

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely believe when you start to pump too much oil,

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<v Speaker 2>like oil and water is the is the Earth's life blood, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it does repln It's just like blood replenishes in

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<v Speaker 2>our body. We could get shot and love some blood

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually our bodies will repent it, you know, will

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<v Speaker 2>replenished blood. And I do think you can only pull

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<v Speaker 2>so much, you know, so often, you know, before the

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<v Speaker 2>earth needs to replenish blood.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So is there anything we need to depend on for

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<v Speaker 2>another country? Like, is there something we do not that

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<v Speaker 2>that cannot be made in this country that we need

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<v Speaker 2>to depend on another country for?

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<v Speaker 4>There might be some rare earth mineral things. Everything really

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<v Speaker 4>just comes down to cost. Truth be told, we could

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<v Speaker 4>do everything here, but a lot of people don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to pay eighteen hundred dollars for a television.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but what if you can afford an eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars television? Do you get what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>This issue is like there's a disassociation with verticals and

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<v Speaker 4>costs and all that kind of stuff, you know, So

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<v Speaker 4>at some point I think it comes down to, like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, you're going to pay all these people who

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<v Speaker 4>make televisions blank dollars here, and they'll have the money

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<v Speaker 4>to buy televisions.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, the consumption rate.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't always outrun the production rate, so the demand doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>always stay on track with the supply. So when that

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<v Speaker 4>starts to happen, the company will go to business because

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<v Speaker 4>they're paying an awful lot of money to make each television.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it's the demand, you know, doesn't keep up,

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't think that Honestly, if TVs were made

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<v Speaker 4>in the US and they cost eighteen hundred dollars, people

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be buying TVs. Like people throw out TVs when

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<v Speaker 4>they move apartments, Like you have many random like just

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<v Speaker 4>decent enough TVs, you see. If we will throw something

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<v Speaker 4>into the television, like if it's a three hundred dollars whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's not that big a deal, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but I think that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a big part of the problem, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean. Like, sure, so many things that we

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<v Speaker 2>have that are like unnecessary, but they're so cheap, and

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<v Speaker 2>they become these huge distractions, right because I'm at one

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<v Speaker 2>time America I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Was making its own TVs.

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<v Speaker 2>Only so many people had TVs, right, But it also

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<v Speaker 2>created more or of a you didn't have so many

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<v Speaker 2>things to distract you like this this, Like was it

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<v Speaker 2>worth starting to do business with other countries to put

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<v Speaker 2>a TV in every household as a distraction, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even that it's a TV in every room

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<v Speaker 3>in every household?

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<v Speaker 1>Now was that really worth it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it really just creates a level of the distraction

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<v Speaker 2>it's not even a necessary tool, like I could see

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<v Speaker 2>if it was something that was necessary to advance humanity

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<v Speaker 2>versus something to distract humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in my tribute, No, you're a.

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<v Speaker 4>Thousand percent right, there's a and it manifests itself in

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<v Speaker 4>so many ways. There's a huge like what Kanye West

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<v Speaker 4>said it right in the first album, young female attention

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<v Speaker 4>to retail or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's bigger than them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's throughout society where there's a massive, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>cultural obsession with just retail therapy culture. And credit card

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<v Speaker 4>debt is super high. Credit card that's not high like

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<v Speaker 4>that because people are because food went up.

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<v Speaker 3>That sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>It's expensive gasing up. That's I get that. The marginal

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<v Speaker 4>difference is a lot of stupid, worthless ass ship that

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<v Speaker 4>people buy all the time. And you can see, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you just look around like there's so much, so

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<v Speaker 4>many companies that make dumb fucking widgets that are eighty

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollar companies.

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<v Speaker 3>For what it was, by the shit, why.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Those sendings gl my man Pete working through some things,

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<v Speaker 2>working through some things, let us work.

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<v Speaker 4>And on the inverse of that, we're a historical low

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<v Speaker 4>point in savings and also like democratized investment, people don't

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot of money they're investing on their own.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's investments now is like their house and their four

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<v Speaker 4>O one K. That's everybody, and that's a small amount

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<v Speaker 4>of money. So there's these huge gaps that then have

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<v Speaker 4>to have programs by the government pay for every thing,

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<v Speaker 4>which are these ballooned up government agencies and debt which

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<v Speaker 4>contribute to the inflation. It does root in the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that we do not personally as individuals, manage our books

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<v Speaker 4>very well, so we outsource it to companies and government,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's not a good model.

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<v Speaker 3>We're seeing the fruit of that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So why is it so obvious for me to see

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<v Speaker 2>and not so obvious for other people to see?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how did okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm not a policy person again, I'm not in

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<v Speaker 2>the politics enough to really jump off a cliff. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>really bare minimums of all this stuff. But it does

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<v Speaker 2>come across very democratic, I mean, to that concept, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Why is it so easy for

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<v Speaker 2>me to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you don't, I don't think, have a habit.

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<v Speaker 4>Of self deception or believing, Like if you had a

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<v Speaker 4>menu of things in front of you. You can believe

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<v Speaker 4>bucket A, B, C or D. You're not gonna always

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<v Speaker 4>choose the one you wish were true. You're gonna look

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<v Speaker 4>more trying to figure out which one actually is. Most people,

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<v Speaker 4>at least enough people are like, well, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know which one it is, but rather than figuring

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<v Speaker 4>it out, I I'd be happy if it was B.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going with B.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just dumb. Every Man thought.

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<v Speaker 2>So many things about this that makes perfect sense to me,

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<v Speaker 2>yet people are arguing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, if you barely pay people, right, if you barely

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<v Speaker 2>pay people, if you create a system where everybody doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have money and then you create a Walmart to service

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<v Speaker 2>people who don't have money.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems so counterproductive to me. Like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of those things that make me think, like

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<v Speaker 2>this world is, like, this country is ridiculous, It's silly.

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<v Speaker 1>Why the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, in my mind, America is a business of businesses, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the business of empowering business basic America.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that he.

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<v Speaker 3>Said that the business of America is business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I never heard, right, Okay, so dope, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense to me. Right, this is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>this sober conscious mind that I'm always looking at taking

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<v Speaker 2>in information.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard that, but that's dope.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, because it was written on the wall over the

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<v Speaker 4>head of my APUs history teacher in like the eleventh grade,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was staring at it every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So America empowers businesses because businesses are supposed to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of American citizens. Yeah, right, Because if businesses are

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<v Speaker 2>flourishing and they hire American citizens, than American citizens are flourishing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that creates a better economy, right, which is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the thought of the industrial revolution. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine that's the thought of that. Right, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the model of that. But if you outsource things to people,

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<v Speaker 2>then you empower other economies and you also kill this one. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>to some degree, I get, you can get a surplus

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<v Speaker 2>of spending, right because things that were not affordable initially

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<v Speaker 2>because you went to someone else paying in what would

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<v Speaker 2>be considered a slave wage in this country, right to

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<v Speaker 2>make something, and then you could buy something that is

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<v Speaker 2>really cheap. But guess what that also means you lost

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<v Speaker 2>multiple jobs of making something. So if we're just using

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<v Speaker 2>the TV as a model, like when America was making

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<v Speaker 2>those floor models in the fifties and sixties and TV

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<v Speaker 2>was a big thing, and it was a really expensive thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, so forth and so on. Right, you

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<v Speaker 2>had American companies, you know, ge and different companies making it. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was expensive and it was a luxury, and

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<v Speaker 2>it should have been a luxury.

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<v Speaker 1>It should have stayed a luxury.

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<v Speaker 2>It valued any it valued nobody, or the value is

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<v Speaker 2>minimum effect, minimum effect because by putting TVs and people

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<v Speaker 2>houses and taking the jobs away from people making TVs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what you did was give somebody a distraction to not

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<v Speaker 2>work on their shortcomings of not being able to afford

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the fact. In a nutshell, the US, like

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<v Speaker 4>the culture at large, is completely consumed by distractionary obsessions

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<v Speaker 4>in the form of like chemical consumption and just purchase consumption,

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<v Speaker 4>or i mean entertainment consumption.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, entertainment, not purchasing entertainment consumption.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, there's no growth there, there's no learning there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So who was the fucking dickhead that stimulated this, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it always goes back to about four dickheads

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<v Speaker 2>that came up with this bad idea.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a few A lot of things were happening at

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<v Speaker 4>once at the in the nineteen sixties into the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 4>so how they converged and a lot of it's like

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<v Speaker 4>you get people in government who have an idea, let's

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<v Speaker 4>do this, and then markets adapt. Well, they don't understand markets,

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<v Speaker 4>so they don't really anticipate how markets are going to adapt.

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<v Speaker 4>And you see that only every single solitary time. But

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<v Speaker 4>you had this massive like then the Johnson administration in

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<v Speaker 4>the sixties, you had like Democrat politicians that started really

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<v Speaker 4>growing the government's capacity to subsidize people.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you had like the George HW.

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<v Speaker 4>Bush part of the Republican Party, which kind of infiltrated

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<v Speaker 4>the Nixon administration and opened up doors to China and

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<v Speaker 4>convinced Nixon to go start doing business with China because

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<v Speaker 4>it was going to be a great boom for the

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<v Speaker 4>US economy to open up trade with China. And and

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<v Speaker 4>and those have always been the big you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>the rhino that the anti Reagan, anti Trump, anti Nixon,

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<v Speaker 4>all the people that like Republican, like grassroots, like the

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<v Speaker 4>mag of all those people that like don't like the

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<v Speaker 4>gerald for George Bush, Mitch McConnell Republicans, they're the globalist Republicans,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is true that those parties kind of have

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<v Speaker 2>split into two separate style of parties as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's been like that's the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry taking my notes. Yeah, so I can

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<v Speaker 2>look at him later. So then it was Lyndon B. Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what we talking about writing the sixty seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 4>He had like like the Great Society and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the welfare programs and stuff like that. So it

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<v Speaker 4>became less Not only did it become less critical for

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<v Speaker 4>business to support everybody rich to poor, because now the

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<v Speaker 4>government just took over like the bottom quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question is why why would they?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, welfare became a big necessary need when America lost industry?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think it predicated America losing industry, or it

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<v Speaker 4>preempted it, it enabled it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think welfare, So you think welfare happened first,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying it wouldn't make no sense.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to, like my real dirty secret on the shit, Sure,

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<v Speaker 4>no one really says this. People talk about the big

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<v Speaker 4>party switch that happened between like Republicans and Democrats or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever back in the day with regard to race stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>but no one really switched parties. And the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 4>is usually like a conservative party. They kind of stay

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<v Speaker 4>where they're at and the Democrat Party kind of moves

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<v Speaker 4>And then they say, oh, the Republicans moved because we're

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<v Speaker 4>so much further away.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>You had, like the Civil Rights Act, black people got

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<v Speaker 4>the right to vote and all this stuff happened. So

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<v Speaker 4>they were like, well, we've been manipulating the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>To keep black people from voting for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they could vote. Let's pull you know, circumvent or here.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna buy them instead of alienating them from

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<v Speaker 4>the economy, We're gonna subsidize them out of the economy

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<v Speaker 4>to keep them out of the economy and earn their vote.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the Democrat Party is big in the South, like

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<v Speaker 4>Democrat Boulevard is like the main boulevard in Memphis, like

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<v Speaker 4>the old Southern Democrats, Clan Democrats, all those people they

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<v Speaker 4>went from switch. Yeah, they didn't really switch. The Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>Party just juxtaposed the way that they alienated black people.

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<v Speaker 4>They went from alienating black people like forcibly directly to

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<v Speaker 4>them not being allowed to anymore by constitutional amendment. So

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<v Speaker 4>they said, well, we'll just alienate them by paying a

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<v Speaker 4>pittionship money not to participate, you know or.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think so?

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<v Speaker 2>You feel like the goal of the government was to

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<v Speaker 2>get black people, like poor people, black people out of

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<v Speaker 2>policies by saying we'll give you a couple hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a month. You don't really have to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>fuck work, but you don't have to care about the workforce,

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<v Speaker 2>which which really low key. Economics and commerce drive policy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one thing that I'm certain of. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>driving force. I don't care if we're talking about even abortions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's driven by economics. Everything about policy is driven by economics.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't feel like it, but a big complaint is

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<v Speaker 2>the economics of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the.

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<v Speaker 4>Problem is you can really see it is that there's

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<v Speaker 4>two like takes on economics. There's like the zero sum

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<v Speaker 4>gain a version of economics, and then there's the growth

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<v Speaker 4>begets growth version of economics. So like the South, for

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<v Speaker 4>a long time, as I've said on the show before,

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<v Speaker 4>was a barrier of entry economy, and it was anemic

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<v Speaker 4>in growth, but the wealth was extremely invulnerable to risk

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<v Speaker 4>of competition down there, you know. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't slavery killed the economy in the South, but

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<v Speaker 4>for that little ribbon of ultra wealthy.

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<v Speaker 3>People there, you know. And you kind of see the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing happening in California.

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<v Speaker 4>California's on a downward trend because California has now become

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<v Speaker 4>a barrier of entry economic model, whereas other more robust areas,

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<v Speaker 4>it's easier to get a permit, it's easier to inch

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<v Speaker 4>your way into getting market share in a competitive environment,

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<v Speaker 4>which just the more dynamic of vertical is the more

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<v Speaker 4>growth you're going to get.

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<v Speaker 2>So picking this up, you're saying California is becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>place just for people with money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's particularly hard to notice. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's two sides of the same coin. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>on the one hand, old Southern Democrats realize that South

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<v Speaker 4>is largely black. They're going to hate our guts, and

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<v Speaker 4>they should at that time have hated their guts. We

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<v Speaker 4>can't let that whole vote just go Republican. So we

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<v Speaker 4>got to figure out a way to incentivize them to

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<v Speaker 4>vote for us. And while we're doing that, a fringe

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<v Speaker 4>benefit is they're not gonna topple any of our economic

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<v Speaker 4>allies because we're subsidizing them not to participate in the economy.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you start off marginalized, we're not participating. It's

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<v Speaker 4>very enticing to go for the money now because you

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<v Speaker 4>need the money now, if that makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Any sure, But just to wrap it all up into

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<v Speaker 2>digestible package, you feel welfare was created to keep black

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<v Speaker 2>people out of policy for the most part, because it, well,

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<v Speaker 2>at least the poorest version, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was by votes slash.

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<v Speaker 4>Otherwise there wouldn't be stipulations that were so tied to

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<v Speaker 4>unemployment or poor achievement. It would be graduated, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a hard line. If you're doing anything, we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Cutting you off. So that kind of says enough.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it was designed to buy votes and

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<v Speaker 4>to do that as simultaneously because both things happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always too it's always two things. Yeah, it's always

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<v Speaker 2>two there's always two things. Damn, that's that's a crazy thought.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you so this is I don't even want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask this question because I have to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>these two things are connected. Like right in some of

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<v Speaker 2>the most densely populated black communities like Detroit, where they

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<v Speaker 2>had all of these factories, right this is America's car

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<v Speaker 2>industry and for blossom there, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you do you think that they knew that

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<v Speaker 2>they were the god so you don't feel Linden was

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<v Speaker 2>already pre thinking about selling out American industries to other

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<v Speaker 2>countries with welfare in mind, because obviously within that decade

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<v Speaker 2>to the next decade is when most of these black

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<v Speaker 2>communities lost industries. You know what I mean, all these

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<v Speaker 2>places that were empowering because again it is in power

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<v Speaker 2>and still poor white people so but definitely poor black

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<v Speaker 2>people benefited.

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<v Speaker 4>From when people have been dead panned too since then,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like those people are the

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<v Speaker 4>same and they're pretty fucking good for nothing as it is,

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<v Speaker 4>but like they's the same, like jd Vance is like

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who made it out, you know what I

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<v Speaker 4>mean of that world.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure. I'm not I don't know that that

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<v Speaker 3>much about LBJ.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that you party shift, but it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be connected, right, because you just don't go give

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<v Speaker 2>citizens money if they're making money and unpopular of an opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>This may be to some white people and to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of black people. I notice most people don't want

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 2>to just get free money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just going to really make a living. You don't

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 2>want to work in McDonald's, but you like, if you

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>could work at Chevrolet and make a livable wage, most

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.959
<v Speaker 2>black people would punch that ticket every day of the week.

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>You feel, mesh so, but it's no way LBJ and them.

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's early sixties, right, because LBJ was Martin Luther King.

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 2>I remember Martin Luther King and LBJ.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like mid sixties. I think, like, what was

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:15.919
<v Speaker 4>it sixty three when JFK got killed? Sixty eight was

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 4>when maybe it was sixty four to sixty eight something

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 4>like that, because sixty eight was Nixon and then those

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 4>people came in.

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 3>And they and they had that.

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>So my point is somebody had to be planning to

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<v Speaker 2>sell the American television company out, had American car companies out.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>They had to because it's no reason you just start

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>giving people welfare like you could preemptively you know, think

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 2>this out and then start to take away like you

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>give people, you don't just take it away from me,

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>for you have to have something there first, so they

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>don't realize the blunt you know, the force, the force

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that somebody whacked your ass inside the head with.

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Does that make it so.

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<v Speaker 2>If Lendon is really responsible for making American people start

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>depending on governments, on the government, which kind of really

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>goes against America's value in the first place, which is

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>why they separated all these states, all these this is

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>meant to not do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if we were on a really one of

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 4>the big criticisms that you see, and again a lot

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 4>of this kind of conversation is stemming more on right

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 4>of center media discussion and terminology and stuff like that.

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 3>You don't hear so much of this on the CNNs

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and MSNBC's or whatever.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 4>But like there's the term Unit Party, which is the

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 4>big corporatist Democrat apparatus, Like what they really do the

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:48.959
<v Speaker 4>biggest lie in politics. Democrats and Republicans both lie, but

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 4>they lie differently. Republicans will campaign all day long and

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 4>tell you if I'm elected, I'm going to vote a

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 4>on Bill one and you elected them, and here comes

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 4>bill and they vote B. Democrats are gonna say, elect me,

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna vote B on Bill one, I promise.

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 3>And Bill one is gonna do X, and you elect him.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 4>And here comes Bill one and it's seventeen thousand pages and.

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 3>They vote B and it does why And that's where

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>they lie to you.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 4>But the two parties unless you have a JFK who

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 4>what happened to him?

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 3>He was killed?

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Or you have a Nixon what happened to him? He

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 4>got run out of office? Or you have Reagan what happened

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 4>to him? He was shot and undercut all the time.

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 4>And he had to barter with the RNC to have

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 4>George HW. Bush's VP, or Trump, who they tried to

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 4>both run out of office and kill.

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 3>So it's like the two do work hand in hand.

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 3>LBJ was a government expansionist.

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 4>George H. W. Bush is a government expansionist. George W.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Bush government expansionist. Mitch McConnell, Schumer, they're all in the

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 4>business of government, and they're all trying to expand the government.

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Internationally.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, you can do that one of two ways.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 4>You expand the government domestically by sending short jobs out

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 4>internationally and expanding the pool of people dependent upon the government,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 4>because then it requires more funding and more health and

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 4>more size and more responsibility to service those people. So

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 4>your power increases because instead of you having power over

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 4>a few, you have power over many.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>So my question is, but isn't the core value America

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>is built off of least government as possible.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's why a lot of people refer to this

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 4>concept as corruption.

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>MM.

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 3>But you're one thousand percent right.

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 4>This is this is the make America Great again concept

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 4>because it's a pushback against this whole concept.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I got people in general here make America great. You know,

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>it's exactly what time they think.

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't I understand it. I understand, I think.

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:05.239
<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest with you.

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I think Trump knows that that people feel that way.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>But just like me, there's an arrogance aboudy like, well,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I'm not gonna cater to your ignorance,

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>even though I know there's gonna be some hell of

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>racist white people that's gonna think the same thing. But again,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I think you leave it open for interpretation just so

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 2>you could play games with fucking with people's mind.

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 4>And I also think to some degree, he thinks if

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm going if I repeat it enough and demonstrate what

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 4>I want to do enough, you'll have like a snaptick

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 4>re word, reassociation, you.

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Know, involvement there.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 4>I think that I think that might be in his

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 4>mind also part of it too. I'm gonna say make

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 4>it very great a thousand times, and I'm gonna do

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 4>And what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put massive

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 4>tariffs on China and Mexico and bring industry back here,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 4>and then people will think that America being great is

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 4>having more jobs in America.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 3>I think there is.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I think there would agree for I would like to believe,

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>genuinely that's the thought. If there was a time period,

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I think we're talking about the Industrial Revolution. That's probably

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 2>when America was its most American need.

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 4>I think it's like the fifties, like you like, after

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 4>World War Two. Everyone comes home or happy and the

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 4>economies booming. Things are pretty straight, there's a lot of growth.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 4>I think it's kind of that. It's still it's, you know,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 4>not a great time for all of the nineteen fifties.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 3>As a matter of law.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>There's no time in America that's going to be great

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>for black people because it's a handful of people, you

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. I think I think in this country,

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 2>when you when you are few, you know what I mean,

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 2>you really have to make your own time. Like America

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>is always the same for Japanese people. It don't matter

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>which time outside of when they was locking them in

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 2>internment camps. Forgive me be forgetful that time. No, but

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying every other time, right, most people make their

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>they make their own luck when they're the few, true,

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. They make their own luck

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>in America, So it don't matter who's in the White

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 2>House over the last thirty years, Japanese people are going

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>to do this. This is because they build it based

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 2>off their own economy. So forth in song, and I

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>think black people in America kind of need to do

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the same. Like I get, you know, different movements. But again,

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>this country is always gonna be really tough on just

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 2>like like I said, a parent that has ten daughters

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>and three sons, the sons are gonna have it tough,

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, It's just what it is,

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 2>They're going to be doing the most. They're gonna get

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>the less. It's gonna be really hard. You have ten girls,

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like that's the thing with America here.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 2>So but I think about it more and more and

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>I always liking it. To American TV company, you know

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, It's like that is exactly what happened.

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you, this is the problem with America, right, It's

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 2>like when American TV companies were booming. Right, Yes, only

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 2>a few people had them, but most people didn't have distractions.

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Then now you had to go out and solve your problems.

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't sit up and watch the idiot Box for

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>that loan forgive me television. I'm not talking about you,

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>but you know the transfer do You couldn't watch the

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>idiot box for so long, right, You couldn't, Like you

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't have it to distract you and take away your

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>woes and worries. Just like alcohol, all of these things

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>take they distract you from solving problems. I mean lot,

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 2>they buy you more time to not solve issues. Right,

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 2>And at that point people had to go out and

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 2>figure out. They had to go out and look for

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is to figure it out. They had to

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 2>depend on each other. You know what I mean a

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>lot more, you know.

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.720
<v Speaker 3>And for the most part another interesting.

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 4>Off the top of my head, like I haven't kept

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 4>up with all of it the last couple of years,

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 4>but for quite some time it was like the most

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 4>other than maybe Oregon, but like the most financially stratified

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 4>states were the ones that were on the forefront of

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 4>legalizing cannabis.

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But again it's like American TV Company.

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:40.280
<v Speaker 2>So when it was when they were really a luxury

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 2>thing and very few households had them, I think the

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>rest of America was better off. You were forced to

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>deal with the problems. You couldn't distract yourself like social media,

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 2>where you could go to a world you put unbelievable

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>pressure on yourself. You really believe people are living these

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>lives and they're just entertaining you, and they just selling

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>you on the life that ain't true even for them.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 2>And TV does that better than anybody else. And then

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you, okay, we're gonna take the jobs away.

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>You're right.

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 2>You could have been building American TVs to the point

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 2>to where you could eventually bought one if it meant

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>that much to you. But now it's like, okay, we're

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 2>gonna sell this business off to other people where they

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 2>don't pay them anything to make the TV, and they're

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna import the TV and sell it at a reasonable

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 2>way so people without money can get the distractions.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 4>And another thing that's really tragic that's happening is like

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 4>the cheap, unimportant, the unimportant shit is getting really cheap

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 4>and affordable. The important shit is getting very expensive and unaffordable,

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 4>that's my point. Yeah, simultaneously, so so you don't have

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 4>wages going up to master the prices of a house.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Cars are not getting cheaper, No hous.

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 3>T shirts shit.

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like stupid crap right now, nothing's really getting cheaper

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 4>but buying large like yeah, I mean it's stupid technical crap.

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Like even if you were to say, like the cell

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 4>phone is not getting cheaper, the gigabyte.

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Is getting cheaper, you know, and the cell phone is cheaper. Yeah,

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's luxury models or not the popular models.

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 2>But you can get a cell phone. What it's eighty

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 2>dollars yeah a month.

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 4>The eighty dollars cell phone now though, is like an

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 4>eight gig fully functional cell phone. The eighty dollars cell

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 4>phone five six, seven, eight years ago was.

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>A flip phone some shit that don't matter.

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So it's just now people are getting paid such

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 4>a small amount of money that to it's easy to

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 4>fuck off the money on stupid shit. You have to

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 4>have an enormous amount of long game discipline to stow

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 4>the money away and invest them only away and get

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 4>the house or to just have the portfolio or whatever,

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 4>because like if you're putting pitchon shit money into whatever

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 4>at ten percent, you're getting like eight bucks a year.

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 4>You have to really commit and understand, like this is

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 4>not anymore a two year process to like hop out

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.919
<v Speaker 4>of high school or college, work a couple of years,

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 4>buy a house. Mary, That's no longer you can be

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 4>buying it.

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Because but again that's because we sold out. Yeah yeah,

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>America as not we because that's not some glasses shit.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>America sold that dream. I don't get Why would they

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 2>sell that dream? That's what made this country fantastic? And

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 2>did they really sell that dream, Pete, because people are

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 2>still coming to America and grows looking for that same

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>opportunity or is it now we're getting a different kind

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 2>of person in coming here at this point, Like why

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 2>would somebody still come to this country if that dream

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>has escaped because it had to escape. A.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 4>They might not know what's escaped because what kind of

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 4>information are you getting down there. B. It also speaks

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 4>to just how grand the gap is. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 4>could fall down a flat of stairs and still be

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<v Speaker 4>two stories above. Guatemala, you know what I mean? Sure,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just bluntly speaking, or Venezuela. Venezuela was the

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<v Speaker 4>second richest country in the Western Hemisphere or the richest

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<v Speaker 4>country in South America thirty years ago, and they just

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<v Speaker 4>pivoted and collapsed. You know, so no point, nations are

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<v Speaker 4>always rising and falling. But yeah, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people like right now, I mean, shit, the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>comes out. There's an app that you can have out

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<v Speaker 4>of a country to get flown into the United States

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<v Speaker 4>at our expense into a facility. Well they're where they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to give you a court date for five years

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<v Speaker 4>from now and give you an EBT card until that coordinates.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, America is a nation of immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>They built it that way, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you could really change that part, but I definitely would.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with this type of population, we should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Programming and turning out.

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<v Speaker 2>Things for the whole world, at least for America. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you would have to compete with different markets.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what was America exporting pre nineteen sixty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's funny that we keep trying to

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<v Speaker 2>globalize the economy when this economy was at its greatest,

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<v Speaker 2>when it was very centralized about things going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Like America was revered as a country when it was

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<v Speaker 2>all about American things, Like, it didn't matter we wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>exporting cars to Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>They end up wanting them anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And part of that's also true, like there's like

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<v Speaker 4>an arc to like innovation, where like the first person

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<v Speaker 4>to create a new thing is going to have a

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<v Speaker 4>monopoly over it, and then the monopoly is gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>eventually like broken down by competitors. So you did see

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<v Speaker 4>that in car manufacturing. We didn't invent the car, but

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<v Speaker 4>we had an effective monopoly on its production efficiency, and

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<v Speaker 4>then other countries got hiped to it and started competing

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<v Speaker 4>against it and brought our market share back down. That's natural,

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna happen. We just did a shitty job at

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<v Speaker 4>competing back as the truth, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Even like if you look at like a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>our policies, a lot of stupid shit we have, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's so expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>The gap between like the cost of an employee and

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<v Speaker 4>what the employee.

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<v Speaker 3>Receives is huge.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we spend all that money to try to make microprocessors,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, from over because of the risk of Taiwan

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<v Speaker 4>and China in Arizona and giving billions of dollars to

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<v Speaker 4>these companies, and they would get in there and start

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<v Speaker 4>to build the facility, and they go, well, we're never

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<v Speaker 4>gonna make a dime doing this. You've made it impossible.

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<v Speaker 4>You've restricted our hiring, you've taxed this, you've done this.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't get a permit for this, ABCDEFG. And like

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<v Speaker 4>you go over to other places and they're like, you

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<v Speaker 4>want to do something here, you want to do something here,

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead and do it here.

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