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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how did you get involved in dreams? That's so funny

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Speaker 1: and synchronistic. You're we're we're on target today, you and I.

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Speaker 1: Because before we started, I thought to myself, maybe I

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Speaker 1: should start with my own experience about what happened in

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Speaker 1: dreams and give you the analysis of the dream so

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Speaker 1: that you can understand where where I'm fifty, I'm a

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Speaker 1: sixty seven. And when I was just turned twenty one,

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Speaker 1: I had my first of four daughters, who was born

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Speaker 1: with Down syndrome. And so that was forty six years ago.

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Speaker 1: And forty six years ago, most people didn't take their

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Speaker 1: Downs child home. Lots of people gave them up. And

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Speaker 1: so my doctor, because my parents would not advise us

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Speaker 1: one way or the other, because they wanted to show

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Speaker 1: that they were supportive if you wanted to bring Tina home,

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Speaker 1: and they were also supportive if we wanted to give

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Speaker 1: her up. It was whatever you want to do. And

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Speaker 1: so a doctor of mine advised me to give her

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Speaker 1: up and hurry up and go home and get pregnant again.

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Speaker 1: Forget you ever had her, he literally said. And not

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Speaker 1: so long after I became depressed understandably, and I ended

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Speaker 1: up in the office of an unbelievable New York Freudian

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Speaker 1: analyst who was here in Montreal. And I wasn't well

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Speaker 1: able to articulate my feelings in my early twenties. But

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Speaker 1: I'm a dreamer and I've always had incredible dream recall,

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Speaker 1: and I used to go to the sessions with the

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Speaker 1: shrink always with the dreams. So my first experience with

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Speaker 1: Freud was that I experienced him long before I studied him,

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Speaker 1: and I started having After about two months there, I

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Speaker 1: started having a recurring dream about a freight elevator, a big,

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Speaker 1: wide space with that wobblie floor that we all are

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Speaker 1: familiar with. And I couldn't figure out except that I

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Speaker 1: didn't feel like I had my ground. Literally it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a pun or a play on words, which we

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Speaker 1: do all the time in our dreams, and so it

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Speaker 1: was like a series. I kept having this freight my

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Speaker 1: freight elevator dreams. And one of the ways that you

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Speaker 1: can find you know you want your first goal is

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Speaker 1: to attach the dream to the very specific current issue

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Speaker 1: that triggered that dream. That's what I'm going to do

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Speaker 1: with everybody. Tonight, I'm going to ask you questions to

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Speaker 1: help people. Tell me what's the situation in your life

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Speaker 1: this week that triggered the dream? And for me, the

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Speaker 1: wobblie floor was I didn't feel like I had my ground.

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Speaker 1: I felt to insecure an unhappy, and it turned out

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Speaker 1: to be that I didn't like that we gave up Tina.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I didn't know where she was,

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Speaker 1: what institution because somebody else placed her for us, we

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Speaker 1: gave We asked them a close family friend to find somewhere,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know where and I knew this thing.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't fitting for me. I had a baby. Where

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Speaker 1: is she? And maybe it looked for somebody else to

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Speaker 1: give the child up, but it wasn't working for me.

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Speaker 1: And one of the ways that you find a solution

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Speaker 1: is by taking the images of the dream outside into

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Speaker 1: waking life as if it really happened, and you decide

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Speaker 1: what would you do, Like what's the solution to the

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Speaker 1: freight elevator dream? And when I lecture at universities, I

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Speaker 1: often asked that question, and I'll get some people in

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Speaker 1: the room say, oh, I'd stopped the elevator and somebody

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Speaker 1: else will say, oh, I'll fit down so it stops wabbling. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're going to do what we're going to do in

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Speaker 1: the dream state, Lady, is of course, talk about all

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Speaker 1: kinds of various dreams that people have, lucid dreams, precognitive dreams,

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Speaker 1: solution finding dreams, which you're an expert in. So one

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Speaker 1: of the questions, Lady, that I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: is when you get into the solution finding dreams, did

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Speaker 1: they come automatically? Yeah. That's why this is a great example,

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Speaker 1: because I took the dream out into waking life and

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Speaker 1: the solution to the freight elevator dream is to bring

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Speaker 1: people into the dream, because if you bring people into

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Speaker 1: floor and it stops wabbling. And the reason I use

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Speaker 1: the freight elevator is because that in my memory bank,

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Speaker 1: which is your unconscious, is very rich with material. And

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Speaker 1: I brought her back into my life. I mean she

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Speaker 1: big part of my life. Sure. I realized that the

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are very, very powerful. That was a

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Speaker 1: first dreams in doing a dream analysis that made me

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Speaker 1: realize how powerful your dreams are. The first level, we

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Speaker 1: are problem solving something that's bugging you this week. So

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Speaker 1: that's what triggers the dream is a current event that

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Speaker 1: you are attempting to problem solve, and when you want

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Speaker 1: to look deeper for more life lasting change in your life,

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Speaker 1: you can take the same dream from the surface level,

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Speaker 1: and after you've dealt with the solution to your current issue,

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Speaker 1: you can look deeper into the dream for life lasting change,

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Speaker 1: which is unbelievable. It's amazing what you can get from

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Speaker 1: your unconscious every morning when you wake up. It's exciting.

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Speaker 1: It truly is. Now what would you say is the

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Speaker 1: most important thing we can learn about our dreams not

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Speaker 1: to push them away when you wake up in the morning,

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Speaker 1: because we prioritize and the same way you get up

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Speaker 1: in the morning and you ask yourself, who do I

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Speaker 1: have to email today? Who do I have to see?

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Speaker 1: Where do I have to go? You plan your day

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Speaker 1: and you prioritize it and are unconscious. Isn't any different

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Speaker 1: at night. So if you have five thousand, six thousand

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Speaker 1: every email you sent, all it adds up, and maybe

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Speaker 1: you have, you know, ten thousand things that happen to

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Speaker 1: Is going to prioritize the one thing that's bothering you

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Speaker 1: you may think they're different, all of your dreams are

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Speaker 1: you having a discussion with yourself. That's what the dream is.

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Speaker 1: It's a conversation that you're having with yourself. Figuring out

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Speaker 1: the solution to something that's bothering you. And the great

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Speaker 1: news I'm here to tell you is that the solution

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a question about one of

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Speaker 1: my recurring dreams, which I haven't had any more in

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Speaker 1: about forty years, which is a good thing. But I

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Speaker 1: Well what did I do? And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I realized it's a dream, Georgia. Okay, I ended up

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Speaker 1: these recurring dreams, i'd wake up and see my name

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Speaker 1: settle myself down. But I must have had fifty of

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Speaker 1: they abruptly stopped. What happened, right, And because as I

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Speaker 1: So each time you had it, and it's called a

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Speaker 1: favorite expression, and that picture of you feeling that you're

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Speaker 1: yourself when you use that picture related to these different

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a perfect example of that. Why what

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Speaker 1: situation might trigger that dream? Okay? From my four daughters,

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Speaker 1: say to you that if there's such a degree in parenting.

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Speaker 1: I must have it because I've been doing this for

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Speaker 1: forty six years. So I could say that I've got

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Speaker 1: all my credits when it comes to parent You've got

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Speaker 1: a PhD in parenting exactly. But here I am, and

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Speaker 1: say to myself, Hey, wait a second, I've got a

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Speaker 1: counselor and he said, take your courses at night. If

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Speaker 1: your degree. You've got two more years to go, George.

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Speaker 1: You'll get your degree in four years total. And I

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Speaker 1: And Lady, I got to tell you, I would come

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Speaker 1: My dad did not think I was going to and

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Speaker 1: conversation that you have with yourself about capabilities, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what the discussion is about. And I obviously you

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Speaker 1: came through it. Obviously, Yes, the dream you moved on

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Speaker 1: days when you feel incapable, but you use another image

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Speaker 1: because that one you seem to have resolved. I did

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Speaker 1: that one went away. You're worth absolutely. I mean I

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Speaker 1: even kind of missed those dreams, but they're gone. Funny

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Speaker 1: and yeah, and once you figure out what it is

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Speaker 1: that you're saying to yourself, the images have a habit

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Speaker 1: the phenomenon of the unconscious. And then, of course I

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Speaker 1: was taking a Spanish course and I was getting a D.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't very good at Spanish. And my professor fell

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Speaker 1: that seemed to work out too. You think we can

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Speaker 1: solve a lot of things in our dreams solutions. I do, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do, And I use like five basic I should

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Speaker 1: and I call it a point of entry. Because you

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Speaker 1: want to think to yourself when you hear a dream,

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Speaker 1: how am I going to begin my line of questioning?

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Speaker 1: Because it's not a psychic thing that I'm doing, it's

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Speaker 1: dream is about. I have to ask you the right questions,

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Speaker 1: and you end up telling me what the dream is about.

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Speaker 1: So there's a woman. It's just a one picture dream.

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Speaker 1: I like these for the radio. There's this woman who's

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Speaker 1: producer Tommy's dog. And so I used a feelings point

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Speaker 1: new jobs that she was so happy about, and after

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Speaker 1: all over her. That was the feeling, and that's why

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Speaker 1: over you, what would you do in waking life? She said,

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Speaker 1: It's all about the dreamer's language. I can to impress

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Speaker 1: that enough upon you. And so for this woman, when

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Speaker 1: to say it's non negotiable. When she's taken something off

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Speaker 1: the tame, it's over done deal. And that's what she did.

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Speaker 1: She quit the job the next day, and so you

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Speaker 1: get the solution and it comes in the form of

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Speaker 1: a metaphor. And that's a great example of a person

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Speaker 1: making a decision. And now she would have left the

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Speaker 1: taken her a month. But because she understood the language

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Speaker 1: of the metaphor and what she's saying to herself in

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Speaker 1: the dream. It pushes you to propel your problem solving skills,

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