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Speaker 1: ben Is I guess what I'm trying to say here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: serious it's a serious problem. Like, you're gonna enjoy this episode. Now,

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Speaker 1: We had a game warden that actually was listening to

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Speaker 1: lot of beautiful things. We got a new podcast called

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Speaker 1: Sheltered Perspective. I just made that up. Just made that up, Fiel.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna enjoy it episode one something say enjoy, Phil, enjoy. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to episode one twenty? Is it one twenty? Phil?

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we determined. But you know, we

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Speaker 1: And here's what it would have been. Phil standing there

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Speaker 1: to do some some pr here. We're gonna really need

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00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 1: to actial statement. We're gonna put an official statement. Okay. Well,

421
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't don't appreciate. I don't appreciate that I'm being

422
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: singled out here. As the person attracting these these uh miscreants.

423
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what's the word I should use. Well,

424
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate that this guy was had done everything legally

425
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: and enjoyed our show. I didn't really got to get

426
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: rid of this stuff. Want to yeah, okay, oh yeah,

427
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: he he heard my Star Wars segment and decided he

428
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: had to drive off into the woods and dump a

429
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: bunch of tracks. Just lost it. Okay. Well, I'd like

430
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: to apologize to uh, to the to the THHD community

431
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: out there. Um, well, thanks for listening to the show,

432
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: both both the warden and the dumper. Yeah, no, this

433
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: is good. It's a good rhythmic. It helps you kind

434
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: of get motivated for dumping and then do the dumping.

435
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: Just kidding, don't be dumping out there. You don't do

436
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: it idiots, especially if you're listening to this show. You're

437
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: not welcome. Um Spencer, you've been doing a lot of

438
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: what we call asked the warden for over at the

439
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: mediator dot com. You guys want to check that out.

440
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: That's something we do quite often. You got and so

441
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: you've been talking a lot of wardens out there. Have

442
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: you heard any what's the craziest story or the question

443
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: you thought was answered in the most interesting way. Mm hmm. Uh.

444
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: So we've interviewed probably like twenty different wardens and asked

445
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: them all like twenty different questions, and almost every single time,

446
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: my favorite answer comes from a California officer. They just

447
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: like deal with a different kind of person than most wardens. Uh.

448
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: There's just like way more it seems like casual fisherman

449
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: or casual outdoorsmen that the California wardens deal with, and

450
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: say somebody in Indiana or Kansas or whatever. Um. But

451
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: one of my favorite questions that that California warden has answered,

452
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Foy, He was talking about the craziest thing that

453
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: he's ever done to catch a poacher. Um. And in

454
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: this instance, there is a famous lake that had like

455
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: a very famous croppy bite, and everybody in the area

456
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: knew that it was on and so they were just

457
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of boats coming in and out, people going

458
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: home with huge limits of crappy um. And there was

459
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: one boat there that was kind of a notorious poacher,

460
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: always going over his limit. Um. And and the boat

461
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: had been on the water all day and then all

462
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: night even uh and the game Warden was waiting for

463
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: him at the ramp, but he wanted this to be

464
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: like kind of a sting. You wanted to surprise these guys.

465
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: So what he did was he hid in a porta

466
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: potty at the boat ramp and he was in there

467
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: for like five hours or something waiting for these fishermen

468
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: to finally pull up. Um. And then when they got there,

469
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: they pulled the boat out and he approached them and

470
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: they said, nope, we only have like sixty five crop ease,

471
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: they're all in our live well there um. But the

472
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: war didn't happen to know better, and so we started

473
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: going through compartments in the boat. And sure enough he

474
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: was like removing life jackets and reached down and felt

475
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: a prick like the very notorious croppy dorsal fin prick

476
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: that you sometimes get, uh, And it was just a

477
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: sopping wet bag and inside there was four hundred four

478
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: crop ees. So these guys went like three over their

479
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: limit or something. And the whole story like that quantity

480
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: of fish and the hiding in a porta potty and

481
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Speaker 1: three am Uh. It's been one of my favorite stories

482
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: from the Askar Warden series. At least you check it

483
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: out just for that reason. That's why, you know, hunting

484
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: guides and game wardens, I feel like I have some

485
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: of the most interesting stories. Um. Is there any way Anthony,

486
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: you can briefly tell that you're running with some unsavory

487
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: characters down to Mexico on that hunt that I don't

488
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: know why that strikes me as a story I want

489
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: to hear right now, but um, yeah, I'll try to

490
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: make it a quick version. But I was on a

491
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: hunt in Sonora, Mexico, um acous deer hunt. This was

492
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: a few years ago on the border region, and this

493
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: was an area south of Arizona, on a large ranch,

494
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: UM that went right up to the border. And the

495
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: crew we're hunting with and the outfitters, they you know,

496
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: said there's some cartel activity here and there's some folks

497
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: who across the border. You'll see some you'll definitely see

498
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: some folks on the ranch, but you know, they're kind

499
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: of doing their thing. We're doing ours, um, So it's

500
00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: nothing to worry about. So uh. And it wasn't pretty much, UM,

501
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: But very quickly we saw it was a little bit

502
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: unusual than what they had been expecting. It was right

503
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: after the two thousand and sixteen election, after Trump was elected,

504
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: but before he was inaugurated. So there seemed to be

505
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: a big push for people to cross the border because

506
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: they expected some changing policies. So when I tell you,

507
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: in a week there we saw hundreds of people, um,

508
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: who were in the process of crossing the border. Now

509
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: this is a very remote ranch, you know, cattle ranch,

510
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: off the grid. Um, you know, nothing around for miles,

511
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: terrific hunting. But you'd be you'd be in these m

512
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: be hunting and you'd see some bucks and and put

513
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: on a stalk and come up to a water hole

514
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of guys sitting there right, you know,

515
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: waiting to cross. So it was very interesting. And you know,

516
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: we knew we had been told, well, you may see

517
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: some army folks and um, they may come up and

518
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: ask for your gun permits and things at that. So

519
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: at one point I was in one truck and we

520
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: were on one of these ranch roads and we ran

521
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: into some of our buddies who were in another truck.

522
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: So we stopped just to say, hey, you know, what

523
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: are you seeing. Where are you going? We were kind

524
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: of switching in the middle of the day, and so

525
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: we stopped and we're sitting out there the road talking

526
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we turned and looked, and

527
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: here comes this guy and fatigues trotting towards us. We said, oh,

528
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: it must be um, you know, must be a guy

529
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: from the army. And as soon as he got closer,

530
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: we realized, well, he's not from the army. He didn't

531
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: have he had military weapon ring but he and he

532
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: had some fatigues, but he was not wearing regular uniform,

533
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: kind of mismatched uming with like a K S. I

534
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: can't remember what he had. Everybody had assault rifles, ration say,

535
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: sault rifles, like full military rifles that could switch to

536
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: full out of of different types. Um. So he's, you know,

537
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: all in Spanish, Hey, what are you guys doing. We're like, oh,

538
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: we're hunting. The first thing we did is we had

539
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of in the back of the trucks. We

540
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: had coolers with lunch, and we also had some cold beers.

541
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: And therefore, after the hunts, when we were done hunting

542
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,239
Speaker 1: for the day. Uh So, the first thing we did

543
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: was hey, Servesa and gave him a couple of cold beers.

544
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: And he's talking to us and drinking a beer, and

545
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: then he says, hey, can I have some beers for

546
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: my boss? All again, all in Spanish, and he points

547
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: up and we look up at this butte and you

548
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: could see there's just an encampment of men up there,

549
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people. So we're like okay, and

550
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, three more guys come trotting down

551
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: the road. He goes, oh, my boss. So then the

552
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: boss comes up and he was talking to us, and

553
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: he was asking us questions like, oh, we gave more

554
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: beer obviously right off the bat. Uh, you know. We said, oh,

555
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: we're hunting here, and they said, oh, you've seen any deer?

556
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: They said, well, what are these your rigs? These are

557
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: the trucks you're driving? Um, yeah, okay, any other vehicles. Um.

558
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: You know. They just kind of wanted to know what

559
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: we were doing. And we we're like, okay, you guys

560
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: are here. We know you're doing your thing. We're doing

561
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: our thing. We're just hunting and no problems, are right.

562
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: And they actually asked for They asked if we got

563
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: a deer to leave a venison quarter for them hanging

564
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: by the road, which we did not do. We gave

565
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: him enough beer, we thought, Um, and you know, it

566
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: was I'd say it was a tense moment. We didn't

567
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: exactly feel threatened, but you know, these are people who

568
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: are you know, they were with the cartel and they're

569
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: moving drugs and people and bad people. You know, So

570
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: that was just in the back of your mind. And

571
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: the only time when I got really tense is one

572
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: of the guys that was with us as a photographer.

573
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: He put his camera to his fit, up to his

574
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: face and immediately they were like, no, no photos, very clear,

575
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: we should not take any pictures. Yeah. I always I

576
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: hear that from Steve and yawning everybody all the time.

577
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: When I go down there, I'm always that you have

578
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: that heightened sense. Yeah, but I've come to feel safer

579
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: going down there, but I still still just you know,

580
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: the stories like this that's still kind of send a

581
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: little chill up your spine. Yeah, you know. Um and

582
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: the outfitter, he said at the beginning of the season,

583
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: he kind of sends one of the one of his

584
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: guys up to talk to them, one of their guys,

585
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: just to say, you know, we're gonna be here for

586
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: the next month and a half. We're not in your way, etcetera. Um,

587
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, you just think logically, well,

588
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: they don't want any trouble with us, right, and they're

589
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: doing their thing. But still, yeah, added a little bit

590
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: more of excitement to a pretty exciting hunt. You should

591
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: have said, I'm a businessman. Well so you said you're

592
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: working hard. We're working so we'll just we're just getting here.

593
00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: All things not all right? Oh man? Um. Uh, that

594
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: that's the crime beat. That's the thh crime beat, Phil Throat.

595
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some cows. We can review us sound

596
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: effects for that. So thanks for that. I don't know

597
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: why I wanted to hear that story, Anthony, but I'm

598
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: just addicted to hunting stories now that I'm stuck in quarantine.

599
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: But I just want to hear every story that I

600
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: possibly can. Um, So thank you for that. Thank you

601
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: for that. Uh. One last thing before we get to

602
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: my good, My good buddies, Guy Nike Eastman and and

603
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: travel virtually travel up to the Northwest Territories in search

604
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: of doll sheet. Um, we're gonna do something. I'm not

605
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna name this segment because it is something that I

606
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: want to take rather seriously. We're gonna have um for

607
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: as long as Quarantine goes on, we're gonna have someone

608
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: on or read an email from someone just given their

609
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: perspective of what's happening in their quarantine life or what's

610
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: happened since the quarantine has started. A couple of folks

611
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: who are hoping to have on the show and just

612
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: chat with them. Um. We got a healthcare worker up

613
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: in New York and and another another healthcare worker over

614
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: in California that we've been talking to about coming on

615
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: and just telling you their story about how this quarantine

616
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: is kind of shaped and changed their life, and then

617
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: then exactly what um has been going on since they've

618
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: been in here. But I got a pretty cool email

619
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: entitled COVID nineteen and some college kid from Will I'm

620
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: gonna say his name, last name is t A e

621
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: g E. How would you say that, Phil? T A

622
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: e g E. Give it to me. Phil pronounced that

623
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: age tage. That's fine, We'll just go with good days,

624
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Um taiya alright, like they like the yogurt um. He

625
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: is a big fan of Tiger King apparently, and then

626
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed our episode. So if everybody's washing Tiger King. But

627
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: he says I figured I would send you my perspective

628
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: and story of how quarantine has affected me as a

629
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: broke college kid, essential worker, and and the effects of

630
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: being in Florida for when spring break quarantine began. He's

631
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Speaker 1: a student at u W Steven's Point in Wisconsin. I work.

632
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: I work at a shipping company's a package handler and

633
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: yard switcher, which is now considered an essential job. While

634
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: in Florentine in Florida, visiting my grandparents and doing more

635
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: fishing that most would consider sane, COVID night teen became

636
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: a serious thing, thus cutting our trip short and forcing

637
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: us to come home real quick. When I finally got

638
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: home to Steven's Point in Wisconsin, I was surprised to

639
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: hear that my employer wanted me to come back to work.

640
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: My first night back at work left me feeling very uneasy.

641
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: I just traveled across country through many states with numerous cases,

642
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: and for some reason, I am working handling thousands of

643
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: packages per night. I asked my manager why I was

644
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: able to come back to work, and he had a

645
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: good answer, but not when I was okay with He

646
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: said that I do not have any symptoms, they cannot

647
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: force me to quarantine. With everything going on, I decided

648
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: that if my employer cannot force me to quarantine, I

649
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: will self quarantine instead. I quit my job and moved

650
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: out of my apartment in order to be distant from

651
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: my roommate, who also works an essential job. I moved

652
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: back home the next morning and now had a lot

653
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: of free time when no school due to extended spring

654
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: break and unfortunately no work. Since I began my quarantine,

655
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I've been very socially distant. I have done many projects

656
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: around the house, such as clean the garage, clean my

657
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: room at my parents house, clean the basement, organized our

658
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: several freezers, make burger frame in a room, clean my

659
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: waterfowl hunting trailer, get my spring fishing things in order,

660
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: and clean out my boat, and most importantly, driving around

661
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: in my vehicle listening to Bennyo being filled the engineer

662
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: while scouting for turkeys. Now, thankfully Wisconsin is not shut

663
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: down fishing or turkey hunting, and I should. I have

664
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Speaker 1: not heard about any plans to do so, and this

665
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: time I have gained permission on about ten farms with

666
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: numerous birds, and found more turkeys on public land that

667
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even know existed. It is it is much

668
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: more difficult to attained permission when I don't feel comfortable

669
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: knocking on doors during these times, So finding phone numbers

670
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: and communicating has been a challenge. Anyway, I'll cut it

671
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: off here. I thought you'd right in and give respective

672
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: of a college kid who's broke and trying to make

673
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: it work. Thank you, Will. There's a lot of stuff

674
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: in there, but um, what's interesting to meet Tony is

675
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: that he quit his job and moved out of his

676
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: apartment to keep himself quarantined. Uh. That's a bold move.

677
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: That's a bold move. Is that a movie you would

678
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: have made in that situation? No? No, not at all,

679
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: not at all. So yeah, well I don't I don't know, Will. Um.

680
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: I want you to stay employed and I want you

681
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: to stay healthy, but we're not sure about that. Spencer,

682
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: what's your what's your action to that perspective? I was

683
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: like just telling my wife this the other day that like,

684
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: thank goodness, we are not this awkward college age where

685
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: we'd have to be quarantined with like our parents potentially

686
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: for a month or months. Uh, And so I'm just

687
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: really thankful that, you know, we're in a situation where

688
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: we can work remotely and we don't have to make

689
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: any tough decisions like that. But I'm also glad that

690
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm not hold up with my parents for weeks at

691
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: a time in like my early twenties. Boy Spencer, I

692
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: hope your parents aren't listening to this podcast. They're not.

693
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: It's a this is a it's a trust tree. You're

694
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: in the next That's fine, just let it out. They

695
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't want me there anymore that I would want

696
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 1: them there for for months at a time. Either. Well,

697
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: it's there's some level of responsibility and that Will. So

698
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: we we appreciate you making sure not to spread the

699
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: virus and hopefully you kill some turkeys. Hopefully I'll as

700
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: scout and pays off and you kill some turkeys. Um,

701
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna be publishing a story on the media

702
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: dot com about our fourteen day quarantine guide. It seems

703
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: like Will is kind of already doing a lot of things.

704
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: We might suggest, finding every damn thing he possibly can

705
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: to pass the time. So yeah, if you check our

706
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: social media, we're gonna be doing a bunch of past

707
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: the time q and as with everybody from their homes.

708
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: And then you check the website mediator dot com. You're

709
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: gonna see our fourteen day quarantine guide at some point

710
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: here the next day or two. So, um, we're all

711
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what to do. What do you

712
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: got coming up, Tony? What are the things that you're

713
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: trying to do with the kids or just to keep

714
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: your mind off the old quarantine? Well, um, you know,

715
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: one thing I'm doing is just trying to fish with them.

716
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: We can we can fish here. You know, the access

717
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 1: points aren't closed, rivers aren't closed. We're trying to fish

718
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: real close to home without traveling really far. So uh

719
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: we did a lot of that this weekend. That was

720
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: really fun. And um, you know one thing I am

721
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: going to talk about on the mediator dot com and

722
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: the social channels is we started a backyard bird list,

723
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: which is lots of fun. See Spencer, You're not the

724
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: only one with old man hobbies. If there's any like media,

725
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: if there's any media brand that like embraces that kind

726
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: of nerdiness, it's us Like so I We're all like,

727
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Way to go find some rocks, bro you

728
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: know right? And uh, I you know I do have

729
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: a rock tumbler. So you're not the only one who

730
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: likes rocks, So we'll save that for later. But U

731
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: with um here in the house of the quarantine. So

732
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: I got out the binoculars, a bird book, and with

733
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: my daughter we started a notebook put the date down.

734
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: Say you know, we started actually on April one, and

735
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: we just real simple count how many different species we

736
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: see every day in the backyard and from the house.

737
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: And uh, it's really fun. It's something easy to do,

738
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: brings nature inside a little bit. Um. My daughter is

739
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: really into it. Surprisingly. We then look up the birds

740
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: in the book and she looks at the pictures and

741
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: she's learning some and it's a little bit of almost

742
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: like a scavenger hunt. So that's one thing we're doing.

743
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, I've been doing that with my kids too.

744
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: We've got a little I've mentioned it on the show

745
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times. We've got a little pamphlet. I

746
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: guess I caught a pamphlet, but it's a laminated like

747
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: fold out thing, and I got one for trees and

748
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: birds and animal tracks and scat um. We went out

749
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: and to one of the fishing gask sites and has

750
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: a nice it's right by our house. It's got a nice,

751
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: uh little camp site that right by the river. So

752
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: we go down there and made a fire and cooked

753
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: some some deer brats and got our little pamphlet out

754
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: and saw redtail hawks tell or J Teller's Jay American Crow.

755
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Nothing really exciting for for most of us, but for

756
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: a little kid man to be able to like see

757
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: it and then look and identify it and like make

758
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: that connection that he's learning about the outside world is substantial.

759
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: So um, and it's fun and normal and just feels

760
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: like I'd be doing that no matter what. So those

761
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: little things are important for us all. So we're, like

762
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna try each week too to um

763
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: no sound effects, no name the segment. We're just gonna

764
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: try to have somebody on to just kind of share

765
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: their story what they're going through, whether it's positive or negative,

766
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: and just kind of get some real stories from listeners

767
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: out there. Um. So you cannot you guys all that

768
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: know that we're going through this together and we're gonna

769
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: tell hunting stories and have a fun time. Anyways, So

770
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: thank you boys. We're gonna take you now to I

771
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: can Guy Eastman from Wyoming, what we're gonna talking about

772
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: doll sheep all the way up in the Great North.

773
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Enjoy guy, Nike Eastman, how are you good? C V nineteen.

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00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: We're we're we're trying to keep six ft apart from

775
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: each other, doing good though. Other than that, you guys

776
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: look like, yeah, you're about six ft apart, Like you

777
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: were saying, Wyoming basically keeps six ft apart of all times. Anyhow,

778
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, you if you walk up to somebody and

779
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: you're closer and six ft, people start walking backwards, stepping back.

780
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: And there's only five thousand people in this state anyway.

781
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: I was calculating the other day. I said, you realize

782
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: we have like a hundred and twenty acres per person

783
00:41:53,840 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: in Wyoming? How many per how many acres per cow? Uh? Four? Well,

784
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: before we get into the fun conversation, I should just

785
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: like you guys both have kiddos and and um, even

786
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: though you're not locked in quarantine kind of as much

787
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: as we are up here. How you guys handling this

788
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: whole thing, you know, it hasn't changed my life all

789
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: that much. Um. Obviously going to the grocery stores a

790
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: little awkward. I haven't had to wait in line at

791
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: the coffee hut for a while, which is kind of handy. Um,

792
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: but my poor wife is about to pull her hair out.

793
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: She's she's uh, she's been quarantined just because our kids

794
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: aren't in school, and so she's trying to do her

795
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: job and do the homeschooling thing, which has been uh,

796
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, with the technology, it's it's awesome. We have

797
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: these kinds of this kind of technology, but when it works,

798
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: when it doesn't work, it's a complete mess. Yeah, yeah,

799
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: you can. You can ask me about that. The last

800
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: three weeks, I've been probably about fifteen hours podcast and

801
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: in twenty hours figuring uh our program out. So it's

802
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: the beauty. You're learning all kinds of stuff. We're living

803
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: in the future, that's what I find. Um, guy, what's

804
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: going on over your house? Oh my wife is uh

805
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: having a good time. She says she'll never complain about

806
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: her job ever again. I call her the silver Fox. Now.

807
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: I never knew her hair grew that fast because she

808
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: can't get a colored I had to go put my

809
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: hat on because you know, I can't even get a haircut.

810
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: So they just my wife and daughter just shaved my

811
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: head the other night. I don't they're not really that

812
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: good at barber's. But yeah, I mean it's it's getting

813
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: really crazy in Eastman household. I don't I don't know

814
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna come out of this with. Yeah, I

815
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: was thinking of getting just for the show, just for

816
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: this this podcast, like a wheel to spin of at

817
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: home haircuts, and just so I could for every guest

818
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: that comes on, we spin the wheel and then you

819
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: gotta get the haircut. That's uh, that's gonna be and

820
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: that would be the thumbnail for the podcast. Well, that

821
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: flow be sold out. You know that little vacuum that

822
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: you cut your own hair from when we were younger.

823
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: You can't even get one of those anymore. Well, uh,

824
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: but just you know, social media is good for for

825
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 1: a lot of things. It's good if you do shave

826
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: your head, guy, just just be sure to film it.

827
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: Put it out there for the people, for the folks.

828
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: We were gonna need it. We're gonna need it. Um. Well,

829
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: we're here for a lot of reasons, but I think

830
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: number one, Um I asked for permission from our friends

831
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: at Yetti to talk about this film that they are

832
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: working on currently, and then the hunt that we went on.

833
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: How has it been three years? Yet two and a

834
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: half years at least, right, Yeah, I think it was

835
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: twenty the summer, right, because it was fifty years from

836
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: when they built that cabin up and up gotten lates. Yep,

837
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: that's right. So, um, well, I guess we could first

838
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the business that you guys have

839
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: right now, and then we can maybe work our way

840
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: back to to that haunt into what it means your family,

841
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: because I think that what you guys do now and

842
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: then you know, just to briefly like go off into

843
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: an industry conversation is unique because you're not your family

844
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: run business and you've been doing it for decades and

845
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: in a time when every media business is in a conglomerate.

846
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: It's all big money from somewhere or from one of

847
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: the coasts one way or the other, and it it

848
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to keep a family run businesses you have. Um,

849
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: and I admire that number one. But but the story

850
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: that we're about to tell kind of highlights that. How

851
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: do you guys feel about you know, where Eastman's is

852
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: right now? I think we're in a I think we're

853
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: in an awesome place. Uh, you knows. As technology changes

854
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: the way we consume media, it's been really fun to

855
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: watch our company transform from you know, the I guess

856
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: the term is traditional media magazines and television two more

857
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: of a digital world. You know, we just launched. We

858
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: just launched two weeks ago. Great time to launch this. Actually,

859
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: it's what we call tag Hub. And in our magazine,

860
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: the back of of both the Eastern Bow Hunting and

861
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: Eastern Hunting Journal, there's a members research section and it's

862
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: all about how to you know, all the tag allotments

863
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: and application um deadlines, percentage of draw you know, there's

864
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, five hundred thousand data points for just

865
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: the you know, the Western States, And so we did

866
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: an online version of that called tag Hub, and it's

867
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: been really fun to watch. You know what. We used

868
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: what we took from a magazine print side and converted

869
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: it to digital and made it really you know, for

870
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: lack of better terms, three D and sortable and searchable

871
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: and it's it's, you know, it's going to create where

872
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: you can look for tags and out west licensed opportunities

873
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: ten times faster than you'd have to do your research

874
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: in the actual printed form. So I'm you know, I'm excited.

875
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: That's just one example of a lot of stuff that

876
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: has went from the print side to the digital side,

877
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: um or from TV to YouTube to podcasts. I mean,

878
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: it's it's an exciting time to be in media in

879
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah, what's like, what are the hardest the

880
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: hardest things you guys have to go through is like

881
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: keeping up and just a daily grind of of a

882
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: media business and hunting probably the conversion converting. Not only

883
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: are our staff and team members, but also you know,

884
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: our our our audience too consuming content that way. You know,

885
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: the the advertisers and the people that pay the bills,

886
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: they haven't you know, they've been looking for it. But

887
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: the consumers are You know that we're all you know,

888
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: middle aged men, and we don't want we don't like

889
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: change just the same way. We want it the exact

890
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: same way. I delivered the same way, everything the same way.

891
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: What do you mean I can't get it the same way? Well,

892
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: the time has changed, paper is different, post office is different. Um.

893
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: I would say that's my biggest concern or my biggest frustration.

894
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: What have you seen guy? Yeah, I mean we pretty

895
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: much have evolved into Luckily we're a small company, like

896
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: you said, a small family owned business. So we were

897
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: able to change quicker than most, you know, with the

898
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: digital changes in the world. I mean, those big media conglomerates,

899
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: you know who they are, they're they've really struggled to

900
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: make that conversion. They've kind of been behind the eight ball,

901
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: where we actually were able, I think, to get a

902
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: little bit in front of it. So we've actually kind

903
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: of run two businesses under one roof. Here we do

904
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: their traditional side, like I said, and then our digital side,

905
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: which which there is crossover between the two. But the

906
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: way you you package a piece of content to deliver

907
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: it digitally versus the way you deliver it in a magazine,

908
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: it can be the same content, we have to wrap

909
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: it a little different way to get it, you know,

910
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: to penetrate both those audiences, even if they're the same person,

911
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: you know. And so it's it's really been an interesting ride.

912
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: And you know how technology has it moved so fast.

913
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, what we were doing a year ago isn't

914
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: working the same as it did a year ago. But

915
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: we have new things that we're doing that are working,

916
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the social media changes that yearly.

917
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: You know, what works on Facebook five years ago is

918
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: obsolete now, damn right, Yeah, they just want your money now,

919
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: and they're more creative of getting it. Yeah, that's the

920
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: next it, right. They give you that care and like,

921
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: hey look how cool this could be, and then we're

922
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna slowly take it away from you and yeah, pay

923
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: to get it back. That's actually, you know, it's a

924
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: slick business model. Um. So I like Zuckerberg for that.

925
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: Have you guys, you know, how would you describe Eastman's

926
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: You know what it is? I mean, it's core hasn't

927
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: really changed. Well, it's like you guys are saying, it

928
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: kind of delivers. I love it. I mean, like I've

929
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: read the magazine since I was a kid, and I

930
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: love getting to know you guys. Like, how do you

931
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: you how would you just describe it briefly? In its beginning?

932
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: I think it was like seven it began all right, yep, Um,

933
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: I know that it just it was it just send

934
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: a film, so that's that's fine. But from seven to

935
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: that's what the um Yeah, well, like how would you

936
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: how would you describe it? I think that you know,

937
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: are our demographic if you want to talk about our

938
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: audience that way is kind of the the hard cores

939
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: in the Hunt, Big Game Western hunting market. They're the

940
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: guys that are not only generational, but real serious about it,

941
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money, hunt a lot of different states,

942
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: hunt you know, globally in some some respects. And so

943
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: they're kind of like you take the hunting market and

944
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 1: take the meat right out of the center of the cut.

945
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: They're the really hardcore guys, and that's kind of what

946
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: we appeal to. Of course, we try to bring in

947
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: new people like everybody does, and we we are doing

948
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: a better job at at attracting those kind of people

949
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: as well. But it gets to be a trick because

950
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: you've gotta you know, you have to speak to that

951
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: hardcore audience without bringing the message, lowering the message down

952
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: to also attract the new people coming in. And so

953
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: that's that's always been a challenge for us, you know,

954
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: and continues to be and I don't see that going away.

955
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: But our our guys are really hardcore, real serious Western

956
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, big game hunters, and and we've we've found

957
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: from doing this generational and I watched my grandfather do this,

958
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: and I watched my father do it, and and actually

959
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: Guy and I are in a stage of this. We've

960
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: found that it's um hunting out West is a transition

961
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: and you start, you know, there's there's two ways you start.

962
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: Either you're bringing into it through a family member or

963
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: you know somebody that helped you when you're young and

964
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: started hunting, or you got into it later in life.

965
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: And those two paths start very differently, but they end

966
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: in the same spot. You know, the guy's started in

967
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: their twenties and thirties hunting, they go, well, you know,

968
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: this would be fun, and and they set the goal.

969
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to harvest something

970
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: this year. And then the next year or four years

971
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: down the road, they're like, you know, I'm you know,

972
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: I got I'm I'm pretty good at that. There's not

973
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: a question that I'm gonna have a problem filling my freezer.

974
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it to the next step. And what's

975
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: the next step. I'm gonna shoot a mature animal, and

976
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: then it's a mature buck. And then pretty soon, um,

977
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, pretty soon these guys are trying to shoot

978
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: a trophy buck. And if they can't shoot a trophy buck,

979
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: they just revert back fill the freezer or if you know,

980
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: a mature six point bull elk, and if they can't

981
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: do that. They're passing up on five points and stuff,

982
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: and they just revert back and they fill the freezer.

983
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: And then the next step after that is kind of

984
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: where my dad is. And I saw, you know, guy

985
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: and a guy more so than me because I was

986
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: a lot younger. But where my dad is right now.

987
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: He likes to hunt, but he doesn't want to be

988
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: the hunter. He wants to be along. He wants to

989
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: he wants to hang out the camaraderie, you know that

990
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: he but he's not. He goes how many you know,

991
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: six point bull up? Do I have to kill? I'm good.

992
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: You guys do that. I'll be along. I'll be in

993
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: the camp and and enjoy that and share the meat

994
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: with me, and I'm good. So it's been it's kind

995
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: of fun. We're taking that center, those center guys, and

996
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: trying to we're trying to, you know, take the I

997
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: don't want to see the beginners, but kind of the

998
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: beginners and bring them up into that center. And then

999
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: we're also we don't know, we have a large demographic

1000
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: of the sixty is eighty year olds that they're using

1001
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: it as gosh. I remember remember back in and we

1002
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: took those four head of horses in the head of

1003
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: Pacific crick and you know, and they do use it

1004
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: as a as something to remind them of the good

1005
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: old days in their world. So it's it's that's been fun.

1006
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: It's an incredibly that's an incredibly well stated like walk

1007
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: through of how this goes. And you know, when I

1008
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: moved here to Montana, that was exactly my goal is

1009
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: to give my give my kids a chance as an

1010
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: East can a kid who didn't really didn't see an

1011
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: elk was twenty three. Um, give them a chance to

1012
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of start in the beginning, you know, start from scratch,

1013
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: and you know, when they get old enough to to

1014
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: want to go do it on their own, to have

1015
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: it right out there back to work. Um yeah, because

1016
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: then you guys grew up with that and I, you know,

1017
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: I always wanted to give my kids that. So it's

1018
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, even in these times, at these quarantine times,

1019
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: you guys, it reflects them. Like how you guys talk

1020
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: about what's going on in your day to day lives.

1021
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: Not much as changed yesterday when I went to to

1022
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: uh pull the meat out of the freezer for the

1023
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon UH family dinner with my wife, you know,

1024
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: my family and my wife's parents. I opened up the

1025
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: freezer and it's still full, and I was thinking to myself,

1026
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: I'll bet I have Oh wait, I know I have

1027
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: nine months worth of food in here. And it's been planned.

1028
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: We've been doing it for years. I know how much

1029
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna take. That's what my life said. Well, at

1030
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: least we won't run out of meat. I said, Hell,

1031
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: we're on a toilet paper to wash it down with.

1032
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: But you just gotta cook that meat a certain way

1033
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: to keep keep yourself regular. I think your body will adapt.

1034
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. But now it's the same thing.

1035
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: We've been talk about that here for three weeks, Like

1036
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: how it's like some weird comfort to open up. Sometimes

1037
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: I'll just go open up the freezer and look in there,

1038
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: and then shut it and walk back in the house

1039
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: just as a and then go to sleep like a

1040
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 1: little baby. Yeah, we're not gonna starve, We're not gonna

1041
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: We'll be okay. Well, there's all those memes floating around about,

1042
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, hunters, and and you know we've been born

1043
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: and bread for this basically, and and some of that

1044
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: is true. I mean, like you said, you got a

1045
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: full freezer. I mean, we need some vegetables and some

1046
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: bread here and there. But you know, we know we're

1047
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: not going to starve to death. Yeah. You know. It's

1048
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people, I'm sure are in different boats

1049
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: in this country. But we're all good. I told about that.

1050
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't make my own clothes necessarily. I've probably been

1051
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: build my own house if you gave me the lumber.

1052
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: But I have no worries on the meat side. Yeah, now,

1053
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: I can't cook. I see your Instagram. You've got must

1054
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: have a million good recipes. Your stuff always looks more

1055
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: appetizing than mind turns out. Ben. Well, you know, I

1056
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: I work for companies that all stage. It's all staged,

1057
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: h Like I saw that photo on the Pioneer Woman. Yeah, yeah, no,

1058
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: I I work for a company called beat Eaters. So

1059
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: I really have no damn choice in the matter. I'd

1060
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: like to just I'd like to just cook a sloppy job,

1061
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: but it's not. They won't let me. Probably not. Now.

1062
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: Actually we've done We've done some good sloppy Joe recipes.

1063
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: You can't lie about that. Um, yeah, I mean, what's

1064
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: the like, what's the culture? I mean, we'll talk about

1065
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: your grandfather, um, and I just pulled up a thing.

1066
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: And funny enough, they did asked us for our website

1067
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: not long ago, like who's your hunting hero? And I

1068
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't want to be too trite about it, um, and

1069
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: so I just wrote a little thing about your grandfather grandfather.

1070
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: Was like, if you want a hunting hero, here's one. Um.

1071
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: And that's true. I really do think that, uh, Gordon

1072
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: Eastman was was one of hunting's you know, true pioneers

1073
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: and true hero um. But like, what's the you know,

1074
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: as we get to telling his story a little bit,

1075
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: what's like, what's the family culture like there for you

1076
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: guys you grew up in hunting, grew up in the outdoors.

1077
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: Like just describe, you know, how how that culture is

1078
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: between you guys. My dad says it beautifully. So you know,

1079
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: we grew up doing this stuff. We'd spend all summer

1080
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: on a lake in British Columbia or you know, as

1081
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: a family or we would be you know, sleeping and

1082
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: sleeping bags all summer and and into the you know,

1083
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: early late spring and early fall. And he goes it

1084
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: took him till he's in mid twenties before he realized

1085
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: not everybody did that, and so you know, our our

1086
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: culture was my grandfather was an adventure, a true pioneer

1087
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: adventure and and he's passed that into down along the

1088
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: generations so much. It's so important to us that, you know,

1089
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing that with Mike. It's you know, four generations later.

1090
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: And and it's a it's an adventure, and it's all

1091
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: about the adventure, and it's all about uh, it's not

1092
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: the the that taking of the animal is kind of

1093
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: the culmination of it, but it's really about being there

1094
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: and being outside and understanding the everything about. You know,

1095
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: my dad used to do this. Thus kids used to

1096
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: driving nuts. Now now I see why he did it.

1097
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: We'd be driving down the highway and he would he

1098
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: would you know, going to wherever, driving through Yellowstone, going

1099
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: to Grandma Grandpa's who they lived on the other side

1100
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: of Yellowstone from us, when he just start picking our brain.

1101
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: What river is that, where does it flow? What ocean

1102
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: does it end up in? You know, when do when

1103
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: do porcupines rut? Just random stuff, And so it used

1104
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: to drive us nuts. But come to find out, he

1105
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: was teaching us how to be how to be outdoorsmen.

1106
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: Not just hunters, how to be people that understood how

1107
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: nature works and why things happen when they do. Um.

1108
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: And you know that's that's kind of been our culture

1109
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: are our whole life. And it's been fun. It's been

1110
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: fun to too now that I'm an adult and I

1111
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: have kids teaching my kids the same thing. Yeah, did

1112
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: it take you a while to to start, like when

1113
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: you had kids? And this this is my experience. My

1114
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: dad I was always like that. He knew every bird,

1115
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: every tree, every animal. He was encyclopedia. And it took

1116
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: me till I had kids to realize how valuable that was. Um.

1117
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, I was an outdoorsman, but I didn't pick

1118
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: that up from him. He didn't. He never really forced

1119
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: it on me. But when I had kids, I'm like, yeah,

1120
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna my kid's gonna know every bird, every every tree, everything.

1121
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: You know, Um, all those things you just said. So

1122
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: when did it kick in for you? Guys? You know?

1123
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: I think I think when you become a parent, you

1124
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: learn it's not just that, it's everything. You learn how

1125
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: you how selfish you were before children, and you learn

1126
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: how you in order to to raise good people, you

1127
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: have to do certain things and I think once and

1128
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: I think naturally, you end up doing the same things

1129
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: that your parents did for you or to you. You know,

1130
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: I find myself disciplining my children the same way my

1131
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: parents do, and it just rolls right back into them

1132
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: teaching us what they taught, you know, what they taught us,

1133
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: me teaching my kids that, And it was I think

1134
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: it was just natural. And it's not like one day

1135
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: I woke up and went, oh, crap, I forgot to

1136
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: teach them that that was a robin that was laying

1137
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: eggs and that they're blue. It was just, oh, that's

1138
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: a robin, that's blue. Oh yeah, I guess I am

1139
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: teaching my kids stuff, you know that it just becomes

1140
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: natural when you Yeah, I think you know a lot

1141
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: of kids, most kids, at least our kids for sure,

1142
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: have a natural gravitation to that connection, you know, with nature,

1143
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: and it's fascinating to them. And I had kids later

1144
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: in life, of course, and so I took a lot

1145
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: of that for grant, and you really realize whoa I guess,

1146
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, you take a lot of that for grant,

1147
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: and then when you have a kid, it's like you

1148
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: learn it all over again. Showing them and they get

1149
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: so excited about things that you just really didn't pay

1150
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: much attention to. I mean, I'm sure there with with boys,

1151
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: ben I have a girl, but you know, we I

1152
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,479
Speaker 1: went on a goose hunt with her. I hate goose hunting.

1153
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: I haven't done it since I was a kid. I

1154
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: have no interest in it. And the guys in office

1155
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: convinced me to go because my daughter wanted to go.

1156
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: But we had a great time, you know, but it

1157
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: was really interesting to watch her, and you know, a

1158
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: couple of guys from the office have girls her same age,

1159
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: so it was like dad's and three little girls are

1160
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: five years old and a goose blind. Oh my gosh,

1161
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: I can't believe we got anything. But you know, I

1162
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: was like, I was kind of upset with myself that

1163
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be such a sucky experience,

1164
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: just because I don't really like bird hunting that much.

1165
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: But it was such a big deal to her and

1166
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: seeing her light up and everything's new, it was. It

1167
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: was really interesting and I think, you know, getting them

1168
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: involved at that age, you know, she's not afraid of blood. Now,

1169
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: she's not afraid to death. You know, she went ahead

1170
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: of her years and her peers from being exposed to

1171
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: that at the right age, and I think that it

1172
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: makes a big difference, especially in today's age. Huge, huge, Yeah.

1173
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: I just spent the whole weekend turkey scouting, you know,

1174
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: airquotes and air quotes with my kid, you know, because yeah,

1175
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: for me, like personally, I'd be bombing in somewhere and

1176
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: I'd spend the night and I'd find turkeys and it

1177
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: would be a very efficient process. I feel its generally

1178
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: it was just me doing it, or me and a buddy.

1179
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: But with a little you know, my kids, you know,

1180
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: getting getting to be four years old, and it's just

1181
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: a slower process. If I've been honest, a lot of times,

1182
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: he just picks up sticks and hits trees with him.

1183
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: That's okay. Yeah, it's hard to dial yourself back, you

1184
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: know too, that because you're used to, oh, let's it's

1185
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: all about the outcome. And I think it's it's been

1186
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 1: good for me as a hunter and outdoorsman to dial

1187
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: that stuff back because it's easy to get in that

1188
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: rut where you just all of a sudden, you're only

1189
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: as good as your next outcome, and you're just measuring

1190
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: everything by the outcome and the kids coming into it

1191
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: bring you way back to where hey, you know, hunting

1192
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: cow elk, that's that's pretty neat. Fills a freezer, and

1193
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: we don't have to hunt the big bulls all the time.

1194
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of guys in my age

1195
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: group and peer group that I think it's a good

1196
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: learning lesson to roll that back a little ways and

1197
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: and really see it through the kid's eyes and come

1198
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: back up to speed or raised with that tide as

1199
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: they get older and and it's good lessons. Otherwise, I

1200
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: think you get off the deep end on this stuff

1201
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: and and get too serious about it. Really. Oh yeah,

1202
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm in that situation. I got four Montana tags and

1203
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I gotta get this one. Philis they

1204
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: have three more to go, and we got a month

1205
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: to do it. I gotta I mean, I don't have

1206
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: time to be hitting, you know, like furrowing rocks in

1207
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: the river. And I turned around in my son's just

1208
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: chucking rocks. I'm like, well, I'll go throw some rocks too.

1209
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: Screw it. Yep, it's like exactly what you're saying, guy,

1210
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: like that it is. I'm sure it comes at the

1211
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: time in our lives are where are more results driven

1212
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: when you get into later in your years, and then

1213
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: you need to be dialed back a little bit. You know,

1214
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: the for Montana turkey tags. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know

1215
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: you could get for Montana get six total life think

1216
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say six total. Yeah, you can get I

1217
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: think five total essentially over the counter. She's and then

1218
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: there's two one or two draw tags too. But as

1219
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: it is most places out west, you'd have to drive

1220
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: about thirty hours like that seven turkey tags happened, So

1221
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that in a weekend. Probably not

1222
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: a little less efficient than other places. But yeah, I mean,

1223
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm so results driven in that regard. And it's

1224
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: also part of the you know, as much meat as possible.

1225
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: But it's it's great to hear you guys think of

1226
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: that too, because, um, it's a beautiful balance when you

1227
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: can get your kids out there. Um, and I know,

1228
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: like I know your guys, like Mikey's been your father

1229
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: is an interesting character for a lot of a lot

1230
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: of reasons like how did he you know, how is

1231
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: he a part of your life at that time? Oh?

1232
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: Because uh, I'm gonna date myself here. I was ten

1233
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: years old when this thing started, and so you know,

1234
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: after about ten, he spent a lot of time working,

1235
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: a lot of time on the road. You know, they

1236
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: didn't have the internet, they didn't have credit cards, they

1237
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: didn't have cell phones, so they spent He spent a

1238
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of time um at shows and a lot of

1239
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: time lecturing in front of big audiences. And so he

1240
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: wasn't there until I got back into high school much.

1241
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, he's there in the summers, is about it,

1242
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: because we all know hunting season slows down in the summer.

1243
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: And then in high school, you know, when I was

1244
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: able to start hunting and wyoming back then it was fourteen,

1245
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: it came all back and and I spent a lot

1246
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: of time with him in the desert hunting antelope because

1247
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: that's where we lived. And it was a lot you know,

1248
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: hunting and filming antelope back then. It was a lot

1249
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: of fun. Um I learned a ton. I'm not saying

1250
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: that a fifteen year old kid would be pleasant to

1251
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: be bouncing around out in the desert every day when

1252
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: there was other things on my mind that it was.

1253
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: You know, he did it, and uh, I'm a better

1254
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: person for it. And and he's got a few gray

1255
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: hairs because of it, I'm sure. Yeah, I got in

1256
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: your your the older brother. How was it for you

1257
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: kind of doing that before I got a chance to. Yeah,

1258
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm a fair amount older. So a lot of that

1259
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: happened when I was in college, so I wasn't you know,

1260
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't here, uh when he was, you know, building

1261
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: the beginnings of the business as much as Ike was.

1262
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: Ike actually grew up more in the business than I did,

1263
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: because then when I came back, was done with college.

1264
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the groundwork had already been laid.

1265
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: But I, because I was older, I spent a lot

1266
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: more time with my grandfather actually in the summer's helping

1267
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: film and and that kind of thing. Well, my dad

1268
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: was building this business, so I got a pretty good

1269
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: glimpse of, uh, immersion in both worlds, my grandfather and

1270
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: my dad. And it's you know, kind of interesting to see,

1271
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, the difference. You Know, one thing I noticed

1272
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: is how you pass it on to to one generation.

1273
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: It kind of didn't gets a little bit of a

1274
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: its own flavor put onto it and its own seasoning,

1275
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: and then goes to the next generation. So you can

1276
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: kind of sometimes the grandson grandfather interaction is a little different,

1277
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the hunting world than the dad and

1278
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: the son even because you know, the generations are just different.

1279
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, my grandfather was the World War two generation,

1280
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: pretty hardcore everything, you know, real hardcore. My dad was

1281
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: was in between me and my grandfather, of course, so

1282
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: he was a little his was a little a little

1283
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: bit different outlook and more on the outdoorsman side of

1284
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: things and all the natural world and that kind of thing.

1285
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: He's into, you know, still photography, not so much the filming,

1286
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: and so so it was a little a little bit

1287
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: different between the two. Yeah, I've seen that too in

1288
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: my same similar in my life. My grandfather was he's

1289
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: a hardass man, um, and then my dad is a

1290
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: little less and then I'm probably I'm probably more probably

1291
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: given my kid more hugs at three years old than

1292
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: I got from my grandfather. They were was just tough.

1293
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: It was just yeah, it was work, man. It was

1294
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, like there wasn't an off switch in a

1295
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: lot of ways that I found with my grandfather. It

1296
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: wasn't like, hey guys, let's you know, let's take a

1297
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: break this weekend. Let's just get to go to the pool.

1298
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: It was there, wasn't it. And I think their world

1299
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: was really black and white, and it was yes or no,

1300
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: or hit or missed. It wasn't There wasn't a lot

1301
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: of in between. Neither of my grandfathers, who you know,

1302
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: grew up in that generation, were would stop working. Either

1303
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: of them into their you know, to the later years,

1304
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of years of their life, were both

1305
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: still going to work. Um, I just you know, I

1306
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: can't imagine that I want to retire someday. I like

1307
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: to take a break. They came from a general ation

1308
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: where they didn't have a backup plan, you know. Their

1309
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: their backup plan was I gotta save as much money

1310
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: as I can right now, because I you know, I

1311
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: was a kid during the you know, they were a

1312
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: kid during the Depression and there was there was nothing. Yeah. Yeah,

1313
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: I think that probably shaped them. And they've seen real

1314
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: they saw real hardships, so they didn't want to return

1315
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: to that. So there was there wasn't two trillion dollars,

1316
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. I feel like my grandfather always looked

1317
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: at me like and he would say things that kind

1318
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: of alluded to this, but basically look at me like

1319
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: kids I've seen a big deal and this ain't it.

1320
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: Get back up on that horse. We're only halfway there,

1321
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: you know. You know what I said, Oh it's gonna rain, Grandpa,

1322
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: So what what do you made of sugar? You're gonna melt?

1323
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: Keep going? Okay, you love mean it just to say, yeah,

1324
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: that needs to be an Eastman's T shirt there that

1325
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: I've seen a big deal. This ain't it. He had

1326
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: all these military sayings that just really put you in

1327
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: your place, and you just be like, okay, fine, arch

1328
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: off the cliff. I don't care. Well we should, you know.

1329
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: We there's a film. It's a it's a very mysterious film.

1330
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: Uh in a lot of ways. It's been a couple

1331
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: of years since we were up in like you said,

1332
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: a couple of two and a half years now or

1333
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: three years almos since we've been up in up in

1334
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: the Northwest Territories, um in the Mackenzie Mountains and trying

1335
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: to track trace the steps of your grandfather. And the

1336
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: film is in its later stages of development, and at

1337
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: some point our friends that YETI will put it out

1338
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: on their film tour maybe next year, on the website

1339
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: of all those things, as they do normally with YETI Films,

1340
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll leave the film kind of to the

1341
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: side for now because it'll it'll be a while before

1342
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: comes out. I will say I saw it felt Soul

1343
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: is a company, the production company that we worked with

1344
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: while I was at YETI and Ben Knight and Travis

1345
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: Rummel are savants. Is it's a it's an amazing film

1346
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: to tease everybody, you guys feel the same, Oh my gosh. Yeah.

1347
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: They You couldn't have asked for a better story. Somebody

1348
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,879
Speaker 1: that told the story that well and you know, depicted

1349
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: an adventure as well as they did. And you know it,

1350
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: I knew the story obviously, but to see it on camera,

1351
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: to see it, you know, in a film as was

1352
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: it was awesome, unbelievable. It's always a tough thing, you know,

1353
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: when you have a family legacy and you're kind of

1354
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: you're connected to it, so you don't know if it's

1355
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: as gonna be as interesting to a general audience as

1356
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: it was to you. And you kind of put that

1357
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: in someone else's hands, hoping they can do what you

1358
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: think your family's heritage is justice and those guys knocked

1359
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: it out of the park. I mean, it was a tough.

1360
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: I know that I have talked to Ben a little bit,

1361
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: and you know, he was nervous about that because it

1362
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: was such a I think it was a fairly moving

1363
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: film even for them to work on, just because there's

1364
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: so much history and and Gordon is, you know, pioneer

1365
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: icon on or whatever in the industry, and so they

1366
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 1: I think they had a lot of weight on their shoulders.

1367
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: They felt they did, and I think they knocked it

1368
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: out of the park. Those guys did an awesome job,

1369
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: and I know they worked really hard on it and

1370
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: it just turned out incredible. I was felt, and I

1371
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: know we felt that going into this trip too, that

1372
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: it's there's some kind of gift in guys with the

1373
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: talent of Ben and Travis who aren't hunters, um, you know,

1374
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: like we are are like, aren't entrenched in the industry

1375
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: and haven't kind of build a life around it. Um

1376
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, taking their lens to this quite literally, but

1377
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, trying to tackle just telling this story and

1378
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: weaving and hunting as not the primary motivation for making it,

1379
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: but just telling your your family story. And I think

1380
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: your family story, it shows out as your family story

1381
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: generationally is one of the more important modern stories to tell.

1382
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: Um for a bunch of reasons that we've kind of

1383
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: already discussed. But it I like, haven't been on the

1384
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: trip and on in that country and knowing you guys,

1385
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: I I was, I shed it here at the end

1386
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: of it. Damn man. It's a it's a very powerful

1387
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: tale for for lots of reasons. It's it's amazing what

1388
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: they you know, what they were able to accomplish, and

1389
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: and you know, take the old old footage and put

1390
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: it into put it into the the you know, modern times,

1391
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: and till till a fifty year old a fifty a

1392
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: story over that spans fifty years in the same exact setting,

1393
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: at the same exact camp, and there's still you know,

1394
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: still remnants of of him being there, and and uh um,

1395
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was. And oddly enough, the

1396
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: cool thing is is that none of us really knew

1397
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: that that's what was going to happen, even the outfit

1398
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: or didn't know that's what was going to happen. And

1399
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: we get plopped in the middle of nowhere, Northwest Territories

1400
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: and it's the exact same spot. What's the chance of that? Yeah,

1401
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: I was when I was watching that back we should

1402
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: set this up. Basically, we wanted to make a film

1403
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: Um and retrace at some level, retrace the steps that

1404
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: your grandfather Gordon Eastman did when when he was filming

1405
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: and then in the nineteen sixties in Um in the

1406
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: Northwest Territory, specifically in the Mackenzie Mountains, and we picked

1407
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: we picked an outfitter that we knew was in the area.

1408
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: But what we didn't know is when we've landed at

1409
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: that Canal Outfitters that's right in the Goblin Lake camp.

1410
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: You land in the middle of nowhere and there's a couple,

1411
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: there's an outbuilding, a skinning shed, you know, a couple

1412
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: of other little cabins in the middle of nowhere quite literally,

1413
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: and we land there and there's a little sign hanging

1414
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: on this cabin that we were are cooking basically, you know,

1415
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: are cooking and hanging out cabin. And what did it say?

1416
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: Guy said C W. Long nineteen sixty six seven, literally,

1417
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: And that was Cougar Long who built the cabin. And

1418
01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: it's in my grandfather's film from nine sixties seven him

1419
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: building them building that cabin. I mean, we landed right

1420
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: there and and that was such it was almost it

1421
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: was so meant to be, because you can't just get

1422
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: a sheep hunt up in the Northwest Territories at the

1423
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: last minute, right, And Glenda had just taken over that

1424
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: camp and what most of her the bookings had left

1425
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: because it was a change in outfitter, and she happened

1426
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: to have an opening for us to come in there,

1427
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: and nonebeknownst to us, it was that exact same camp,

1428
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: same cabin, same everything. And if you don't if if

1429
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: and then you know the sheep, the situation was even crazier, right.

1430
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean you look up if I remember, like, you

1431
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: look up like maybe west of camp or northwest of camp,

1432
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: and there's a big ridge, you know, pretty particular ridge,

1433
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: and I were looking there and you guys are comment like,

1434
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: I think that's where Grandpa filled the sheep over there. Well,

1435
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: there's a story. There's a story that when they were

1436
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: building the cabin, they looked up on the on the

1437
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: top of this mountain and there's a band of rams

1438
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: and my grandfather was like, I'm gonna walk up there

1439
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: and shoot one of them. Of course they're all going

1440
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: you're not gonna walk up there and shoot one. Well,

1441
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: sure enough, he put his boots on and walked up

1442
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: there and shot one. Well, and we spent what four

1443
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: days in the snow some you know, up but on

1444
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: a different ridge, looking looking at sheep and had an

1445
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: experience with with some rams, but they weren't quite what

1446
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, we needed at harvest. And we ended up

1447
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 1: back at the camp gonna kind of replenish and go

1448
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: out again. And sure enough there's a band of rams

1449
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: on the exact same mountain. And so what we do.

1450
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: We woke up the next morning, put our boots on

1451
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: and walked up there and and which sounds really easy,

1452
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: it was not. In fact, there was a couple of

1453
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: times it's been and Traviser like, I am not comfortable

1454
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: walking across this this again. I've about died three times. Um.

1455
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: I remember one time that we're you know, there's what

1456
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: four or five of us and we're walking up and

1457
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, kind of scaling this cliff side and you

1458
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: had to walk up the shoot that had loose slate

1459
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: in it, and one guy walks underneath the slate, the

1460
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: other guy walks on top and it just about took

1461
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: I think it was Travis or Ben, it just about

1462
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: took him out. And they would have fell, you know,

1463
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: not only get buried, but it fell a long ways

1464
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: and so it wasn't an easy walk. But we walked

1465
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: up there and we're able to find the band of

1466
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: rams and guy was able to take a really really

1467
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: good ram on the same exact mountain. Yeah. And then

1468
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: in the film, you guys are looking at a photo

1469
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: of the ram that Gordon killed. Literally fifty years I'm

1470
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: not gonna it's not so, I'm not gonna be some militia.

1471
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: Fifty years to the day, fifty years to the year, um,

1472
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: fifty years to the summer to the summer. And that's

1473
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: a better way to put it. And and here it

1474
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: is like these rams could have been father and son

1475
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: or in this case probably grant you great grandfather and son. Um.

1476
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild. Yeah, it was. It was. That was

1477
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: a crazy adventure. Yeah, and you're you know it, you

1478
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: have the sheet bug guy, like you're fully, fully immersing

1479
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: the sheep world and here you are, you know, in

1480
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: some of the beautiful your grandfather described it as it's

1481
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: like beautiful, easy to look at pastel country, you know,

1482
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: in the top of the world, basically looking with a

1483
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, with a dead doll ram looking out across

1484
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: this this landscape. You did get pretty emotional right at

1485
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: the time. For for as much emotion as you're willing

1486
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 1: to give. Yeah, it was. It was a pretty emotional

1487
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: emotional experience for sure. I mean that the country is

1488
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: just emotional anyway, I think, don't you. I mean, he

1489
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: really was right. It's it's it's like something your eyes

1490
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: have never really looked at. It's very unique mountain range.

1491
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, even when compared to I've hunted the Brooks

1492
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: Range in Alaska and the Alaska Range and all a

1493
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: lot of different ranges up there, but that Mackenzie's is

1494
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 1: just a different mountain range and it's so remote the

1495
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: really it's an emotional place, at least to me, just

1496
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: in gen Roll. Yeah, I mean it's it's such a

1497
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: like it's just so vast, you can see so much

1498
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,839
Speaker 1: and it's so open that you feel you feel smaller

1499
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: than some of these other places. I mean here in Montana,

1500
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: you know, in the Gallatin Range you can't see nearly

1501
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: as far because some of the peaks are so high,

1502
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: but there you just feel like everything's kind of once

1503
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 1: you're up high enough on the same level, it's such

1504
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: a beautiful, gentle looking terrain from far off. You know,

1505
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,879
Speaker 1: it's not jagged, it's not. It's just kind of smooth

1506
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, it is. It's not not as

1507
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: rocky and rough as you think sheep country would be.

1508
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty, I mean, not easy to negotiate, but

1509
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: for when it comes to sheep terrain, it's fairly easy

1510
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: to negotiate once you get on top of it. Yeah. Yeah,

1511
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't for you know, a couple of

1512
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: bowlder fields and a bunch of shale rock. It wouldn't

1513
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: be that bad. No, it's a really special place anyone

1514
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: who's never been there. I mean, it's definitely on a

1515
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 1: play you should set your eyes on at some point

1516
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: in your life. If you're an outdoors person. It feels

1517
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: so surreal up there. You can't, you can't. It's impossible

1518
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: to describe it. And even you know the film as

1519
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: well as Travis and Ben did filming that, it still

1520
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: doesn't tell the full story. Once you see it in

1521
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: real life, it's it's amazing, amazing. Yeah. I remember when

1522
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: we I was hunting in a different area you guys

1523
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: were for caribou and we landed in a helicopter. So

1524
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: if we have to tell the story of our helicopter pilot.

1525
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: It's holy, holy um, because you know, a good hunt

1526
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: like this in the North isn't complete without a couple

1527
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: of characters running around. Um. We had a guy that

1528
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: was a character and a pilot that was a character, um,

1529
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: among the many things. But we landed there, and then

1530
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: you have the rule that you can't hunt for what

1531
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: is it twelve hours? I think so I remember correctly

1532
01:20:55,400 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: something like that. I think it's twelve hours. But at

1533
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: midnight has to be in those twelve hours because it

1534
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: doesn't get dark, right. So we land there. We're kind

1535
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: of sitting up on a ridge with my guide and

1536
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: it's it's we We looked down in this little valley

1537
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: and coming up this river is ah the meanest South

1538
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: grizzly I've ever seen. Like she was just walking up,

1539
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,480
Speaker 1: rolling up this riverbed and everything she saw she squashed,

1540
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: Like everything that moved you got squashed, every bush that

1541
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: moved got waxed. I've never I thought, well, if any,

1542
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: if any grizzly is gonna kill me, it's that one.

1543
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: It's just something that's just happened to piss her off.

1544
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: And just just sitting there and realizing how far away

1545
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: we were, how disconnected we were, and how dangerous a

1546
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: place like this can be if you don't know how

1547
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: to handle it. Uh to me, like the notes then

1548
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: when I watched this film of your grandfather and like

1549
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: army surplus packs and and all this stuff going there

1550
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: for thirty days, how that man survived. Yeah, those guys

1551
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: were tough, and they, like you said, they had, you know,

1552
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: wearing cowboy boots and Army surplus backpacks and boy scout

1553
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: tents and you know, eating whatever they whatever they could

1554
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: take up there, and and you know, they could shoot

1555
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: a sheep and that had to feed him for three

1556
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: or four days, and then they go shoot another sheet.

1557
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: I mean just it's just amazing. And we're sitting there

1558
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: complaining about our m R. E s and and our

1559
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: mountain house meals and cantuna and uh, living in sleem

1560
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: bags where you don't get cold, and tents that don't

1561
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: get you you'd stay dry in. And yeah, that's I

1562
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: remember after we left camp and we got hike in

1563
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: the first time, we were moving across the valley to

1564
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: find some caribou. I picked my pack up, finally got walking.

1565
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is this thing so heavy. I think

1566
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: it weighs like seventy pounds. And I look in there

1567
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: and the camp folks have like put in about thirty

1568
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: pounds of tuna in can cans. Yeah, like one Snickers bar.

1569
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, all right, I'm a little offended that

1570
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I'll take it. If I remember, right, I think we

1571
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: were were we horse trading Snickers. Don't you have an

1572
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 1: affliction for Snickers? I do? Yeah, I was probably. I

1573
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 1: was probably willing to do just about anything for Snickers

1574
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: or something. I was like, you're not gonna eat that

1575
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: Snickers already, I'll treat you a can of tuna. Wait

1576
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: what I'll trade you can't? Yeah, once you get and

1577
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: once you have that much tune, it it's like the

1578
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: flavors are really tradeable, you know. You know, like that

1579
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: that Chipotle to not I'll trade you that for you know,

1580
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: blade and grass. But um like that. There was a

1581
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: curry flavor that I would have that I would rather

1582
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: use for a pillow than the buffalo, the buffalo wild

1583
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: wing or the buffalo sauce one. I still, yeah, that

1584
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: was the one when I yeah, when I taste tune

1585
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: and now I think about sitting in some ridge at

1586
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 1: midnight and you know, full light looking for caribou. I

1587
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: have not eaten a piece of tuna since we did

1588
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 1: have fun, though. We just sit here out after the

1589
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: after the sheep was was taken and we went back

1590
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: out cariboo hunting, and of course I had a tag

1591
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: and you had a tag, and we sat in that

1592
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: camp for two days and just looking for cariboo, because

1593
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: you think it's a lot different hunting mountain cariboo than

1594
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: baring grounds because they don't migrate. So you're sitting in

1595
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: one spot just hoping to find one, and then when

1596
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: you find one, hoping put him to bed and go

1597
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: take him. And so we sat there for two days

1598
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 1: on that big ridge and told some of the dumbest

1599
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 1: stories and heard logan who was the who is the guy?

1600
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that guy had some remembers Grizzly bear stories.

1601
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody was a cousin or an uncle. Do

1602
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: you remember any of the stories that we can retail?

1603
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, do you remember the story? So he

1604
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: shoot this bull in southern this elk in southern British Columbia.

1605
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: They this elk and like four or five grizzly bears

1606
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: come in on him to take this elk and they

1607
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: fight these bears off for three hours in the middle

1608
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: of the night, trying to get this out. Finally he

1609
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: gets mad, cuts the head off and and they're hauling

1610
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: just the head down because the bears have taken the

1611
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: carcass hauling the head down, and pretty soon they get

1612
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: followed by three or four bears to the pickup. He

1613
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: turns the truck lights on and there's three bears standing

1614
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: there looking at him. Oh my lord, that's a whole

1615
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: different level of hell. Uh yeah, that's like, you know,

1616
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: Logan is a guide from British Columbia, and I've actually

1617
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 1: talked about having him on the show. And now that

1618
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm rethinking, are sitting you know, I guess we should

1619
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: paint the picture because we're on like the one of

1620
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: the most beautiful kind of just knobs in the valley

1621
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. This is the most picturesque place.

1622
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: It seems like every sunrise and sunset was more beautiful

1623
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: than the next. When you could look up three different valleys,

1624
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: three different directions from where we are at as far

1625
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: as I could see, you can probably see. I don't

1626
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: note twenty square miles. I don't know what you could see.

1627
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: That's probably over it, but it was a long way Cabo,

1628
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: and I don't think we can get there today. Yeah,

1629
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: like we don't have to. Yeah, if we start walking,

1630
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: we get there by Wednesday. So but yeah, I mean,

1631
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: it's just it was just a place for me that

1632
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: like I could stay here and just just do nothing,

1633
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: which was pretty much what we did for the first

1634
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: couple of days. Um. The guy was already tagged out,

1635
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 1: so he just he was really leisurely hanging out and

1636
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: playing games on his phone, just hanging out. And then

1637
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: at some point million in Southern at some point he

1638
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: just he's been in his tent for a while and

1639
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: he pops his head out of the tent goes, hey, guys,

1640
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 1: the caribou over there. We've been sitting there glass and

1641
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: for jokes, I had to come out. You guys are

1642
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: gonna go shoot that one across the valley there. Yeah,

1643
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: we've been up all morning at like all morning since

1644
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: five in the morning, Glass and glass and nothing. Nothing.

1645
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: Guy gets out of his sleeping bag and just kind

1646
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: of leisurely, Hey, guys, what about that one right there?

1647
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: I think about that we did we ran over there

1648
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: and him actually, yeah, then he went over there and

1649
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: shot him. That was as quick in and the bull

1650
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: that I killed it was. It wasn't nearly as close, No,

1651
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: but it was kind of a similar situation. You know.

1652
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: You see solid bull, you know, a good couple of

1653
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: miles away on the top of the ridge. And when

1654
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: I say ridge, I mean peak, um three thousand vertical feet. Yeah,

1655
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: and after after seeing you know, we had seen a

1656
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: couple of grizzlies at that point, I was a little

1657
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: a little I would say, more than a little um

1658
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, hesitant to go dropping down in the bottom

1659
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: of these brushy you know, brush covered river river bottoms

1660
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 1: and go beating brush, especially after you saw a mama

1661
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: bear what five days earlier. I'm never yeah, I've never

1662
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: seen anything like that. I tell that story all the time.

1663
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: I've never seen a bear just more ready to. I mean,

1664
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: she just stopped and bit a stump for no reason,

1665
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: just to It's a whole different story when you're sitting

1666
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: up on the hill and looking down into that mess

1667
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: down there and watch him then going down in it,

1668
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: and you you sit up there and watch two or

1669
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: three bears go down that river, and then all of

1670
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have to go down in there. When

1671
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: you get down in that brush, he's really your mind

1672
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: starts to race him for sure. You realize the brush

1673
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: is seven ft tall, and that's a bigger bear than

1674
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: you thought it was. And yeah, and you got a

1675
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: guy like Logan Peasily into It's like, I'm a short

1676
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: guy like and you guys are both tall. I'm like, well,

1677
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm hiking around with three seven feet tall people and

1678
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm just like trying to be you know, quick, quick

1679
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: at the pace. But you're charging through. And that's what

1680
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 1: we did for my bowl. And then we kind of

1681
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: get to the base of this ridge and it's a

1682
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 1: good you know, thousand feet up probably I don't know,

1683
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: eight hundred feet up something like that. Yeah, trying to

1684
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: think of you shot a true mountain caribou. And there

1685
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: was there was two times in this damn trip where

1686
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: we hiked past doll sheep to get to the cariboo yep.

1687
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: So and it's allus. So it was warm, so yeah,

1688
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: we we got I gotta hiking with my guy. We

1689
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: hiked up this hill and got into position I was

1690
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: hunting with a bow, and he said, hey, I have

1691
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: a rifle. I said, well, that's nice, give it to me.

1692
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: Do you have bullets? You have bullets, I will shoot

1693
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: it um, And so I did. Yeah, And then we

1694
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: you guys came and met came up and made us

1695
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: and we ended up quartering skinning that bull on kind

1696
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: of a knife ridge and some shale he had that

1697
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: We had to dig a little bit of a shelf

1698
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: to put the bull on. The quarter them up and

1699
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: get him the hell out of there. Yeah, keep him

1700
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: from rolling over. Do you ever think of when, like

1701
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: when we were in that situation, Do you ever think

1702
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: about what your grandfather must have to go through them

1703
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: in this country? You know, I think a lot about

1704
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: how they did things and what they did. You know,

1705
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: I think they just did everything a lot slower. Everything

1706
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: was a little a lot slower, and they were okay

1707
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: with that. You know, if they took him all day

1708
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: to do that caribou and got down to camp and

1709
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 1: they hung out for three days eating cariboo meat and

1710
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: telling lies. I think everything was just slower. We we

1711
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: come from a fast paced society, and when we go

1712
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: up into that into that place, we try and do

1713
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: that continue that pace, and nature doesn't like it and

1714
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: they throw your curveballs like big huge grizzly bears and

1715
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: and seven foot seven ft you know, alder brush and storms,

1716
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: and you know it's just you have to just slow

1717
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: down and enjoy it and take a slower pace. So

1718
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: I think they just did everything way slower. Yeah, they

1719
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I would imagine so, and they're like, can you guys

1720
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 1: describe from what you know, kind of what gear they

1721
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: had and how they tackled that country, because I mean,

1722
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure the camera gear had to be hundreds of

1723
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: pounds to film all that. Oh yeah, I tangled with

1724
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: that camera when I was working with grandfather or Gordon

1725
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: I he we filmed some sheep stuff one time with

1726
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: the old film camera. Got it out sixteen millimeter and

1727
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: that thing was a nightmare just logistically. Just the battery

1728
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: belt alone weighs like eighteen pounds, you know, just to

1729
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: run it and then you have to run it takes

1730
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: two people to run it because one has to run

1731
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: the actual camera, the other guy has to run the

1732
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: lens because the zoom everything's everything is manual and you

1733
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 1: don't know what you didn't know what you get. You know,

1734
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: it had to be developed just like the old days

1735
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: of film member. We were kids. You take all these

1736
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 1: photos of your camera, like send off to the developing

1737
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: place and hope you had something worth anything when it

1738
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: came back. It wasn't a bunch of black photos. Yeah

1739
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: I missed that. I miss is suspensible, like going to

1740
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: the pharmacy and be like what is in this little

1741
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Now you just flip on the screen and

1742
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: see what you've gotten off you go. So everything was

1743
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: just more difficult. And that's just the cameras. I mean

1744
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about the tents. I mean everything was left

1745
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: over from the war that those guys used, you know,

1746
01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: wool pants, pop tints. Everything was canvas or or leather.

1747
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: That's it. It's the only materials they had. So everything

1748
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: was heavy, not waterproof. Well, he tells a story about

1749
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: one of the guys bought up brand new pair of

1750
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: boots and they're the first vibrant souled boots ever and

1751
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: he took him up there and they soared the heck

1752
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: out of his feet and he ended up cutting them apart.

1753
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 1: And but yeah, they didn't have anything. You know, they

1754
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: had a frying pan to cook in and how was

1755
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: it ten pounds of bacon, and off they went, there's

1756
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: a there's another T shirt idea for Eastmanston and I

1757
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: think one of the most interesting things, and they get

1758
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: into a little bit of this in the film is

1759
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: is they didn't really know what was up there when

1760
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: he went. Because Gordon had gotten you know, fairly noticed

1761
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: through his hunting and wildlife filming in the Northwest Territory.

1762
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Government contacted him and said, hey, you want to come

1763
01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: up here and film, you know, a hunt and see

1764
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 1: if this is viable to bring a hunt paying hunters

1765
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: in here. Because Stan Burrell, who is the outfitter at

1766
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: that time the Gordon got connected with, he was a

1767
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: buffalo outfitter in Alberta and they had to kill all

1768
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: those buffalo because they got diseased. So he had no

1769
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: way to make up a living. So the Canadian government

1770
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: basically gave him that concession the entire Mackenzie Mountains. Now

1771
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: it's broken to six different concessions, but he got I

1772
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 1: think actually half of it. I don't think it was

1773
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but it's just massive. Well, they didn't

1774
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,839
Speaker 1: know what was in there, so Gordon and his buddies,

1775
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: the Canadian government just said come up here, see what's

1776
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,879
Speaker 1: in here. Film it. No licenses required, no bag limits,

1777
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: no nothing. You can do whatever you want. We just

1778
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: need a report and need to be able to see

1779
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: what's in there to see if it's viable for outfitting.

1780
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: So they went in there and they didn't know if

1781
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,719
Speaker 1: Bigfoot was in there or the edge of the earth

1782
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: they were going to fall off of. I mean, they

1783
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: had no idea. Only the native indigenous people have been

1784
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: in there and uh, and so it was completely I

1785
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 1: mean you can imagine every night you think, no one

1786
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 1: knew what was on the other side of any of

1787
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: those ridges. It wasn't even like we think this drainage

1788
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: goes here because we flew over at once. It was

1789
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: very spotty map just from the oil pipeline, you know,

1790
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: the oil exploration. And he said that, he said that,

1791
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, one your grandfather in the film says like

1792
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: one valley is game ridge, there's there's they're everywhere, and

1793
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: you know the next valley there's nothing. Um that's that's

1794
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of the words of an explorer, you know,

1795
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't know what they're getting into. Yep. And

1796
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: that's the way that country is. I mean, you know,

1797
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 1: when you're up there, you think, oh, my gosh. But

1798
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 1: luckily it's changed so much. Helicopters and airplanes have changed

1799
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: that whole world up there for the better for the hunter.

1800
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: But I mean it's the same way you fly over

1801
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,879
Speaker 1: that with a helicopter. Whatever. It's rain, you know, drainage

1802
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: after drainage, it's empty. And then all of a sudden

1803
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: you find a mountain that's got fifty sheep on it,

1804
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and they had to do it

1805
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: all by foot. Yeah. Well, and then then you get

1806
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: to our our that that is a nice bridge to

1807
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 1: our friend. Leave. The pilot who was part of the

1808
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: Canal Road, well, that guy is a Canadian classic. I mean,

1809
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go find him. I just feel like I'll

1810
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: fly him in the Montana for a sit down. I mean,

1811
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: he So the Canal Road was part of a project

1812
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: to build the Canal Pipeline and a road it was

1813
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: from I think Norman Wells to Northwest Territories to white

1814
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,839
Speaker 1: Horse in the Yukon. During World War Two. The pipelines

1815
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: no longer there. It's like two seventy nine miles long. Um.

1816
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: I was reading in earlier today and it's it's really

1817
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: the heritage of the Northwest territories in the Yukon during

1818
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: those years is is you know, a World War two

1819
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: need for um natural gas and oil. And they they

1820
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 1: whacked the whacked the trail basically, and it's up some

1821
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: of the craziest rivers. And you know, one day that

1822
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: river could be the size of a kitchen table and

1823
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 1: the next day it could be the size of a house.

1824
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just just and it doesn't matter seasonal, it

1825
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Remember, remember all those people was that they

1826
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: were bikers. Weren't they the whole group of of gals

1827
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: that we're looking for a one part on their bike

1828
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: when we got there. Hardcore, these are hardcore human beings

1829
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know. It was like two

1830
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 1: or three ladies that would like dry like ride a

1831
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 1: bike on the whole canal road, which, as you said,

1832
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: it's not really a road. I mean this is kind

1833
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: of a yeah best it's a trail which is just

1834
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: a wild and that's that's a gnarly country to be

1835
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 1: camping and riding bikes in. They had a raft in

1836
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: their backpack and they would have to blow it up

1837
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: to cross the river because that trail there's no bridges left,

1838
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 1: but it crosses the river like thirty eight times or

1839
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: some crazy thing, and they would have to shuttle their

1840
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: bikes acrossed in a raft. I mean I'm not talking about,

1841
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,759
Speaker 1: like I said, a nice meandering river. There's some gnarly

1842
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: spots in that thing. They're just forging across with their bikes.

1843
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, those are some tough gals. Yeah, anybody that's

1844
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: in that country has to be tough, um, including our

1845
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: buddy Lee. He was our helicopter pilot. But he's also

1846
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: just like if you would just picture I'm not even

1847
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: sure how you had like a Canadian cowboy. He had

1848
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: a handlebar mustache. Just I don't know how would you describe,

1849
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: believe he looked like, uh, oh gosh, he looked like

1850
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: an older version of Ah, oh my gosh, what's the movie?

1851
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: What's the Alan Alda? Yah? Yeah, I mean he never

1852
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 1: got pressured up about any anything. He was always calm,

1853
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: which is good for to have a pilot who's always calm.

1854
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: But gray hair, and he had a lot hours, which

1855
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 1: is always good for a as a as a pilot.

1856
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 1: There you've got gray hair, that means a guy is

1857
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 1: not dead yet. Yeah. I remember he had found a

1858
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: bulldozer back there that they had left, the government left,

1859
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 1: and they said, if you get it out of there,

1860
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 1: you can have it. And he went in there with

1861
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: a snowmobile and parts and put it together, got it

1862
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 1: running and drove it out like hundreds of miles. You

1863
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: can't there's no way. Yeah, there's no way we can

1864
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 1: accurately describe what we're even talking about right now. There

1865
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 1: is no there's no whip. He had a whole album

1866
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: of photos from this, and I think it didn't take

1867
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: him a couple of years to do it. He had

1868
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: to do it in the winter because of forging the

1869
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 1: river a bulldozer, like three hundred miles in a bulldozer

1870
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: on a hundred year old road, six year old road.

1871
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 1: I think at this point he had road is just

1872
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: a is a misnomer. It's just like a direction or something.

1873
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: He said. I spent most of the time building the

1874
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,600
Speaker 1: roads so he could keep going forward. Yeah, with the bulldozer,

1875
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: it was like it was like it was like having

1876
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 1: a plane and having to dig the runway, drive the plane,

1877
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 1: flying a little bit land, dig the runway. That's basically

1878
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,799
Speaker 1: he was doing, you know, And he had to stash

1879
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: fuel and it was something but he was a heck

1880
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: of a pilot. I can't remember how many hours he

1881
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 1: had in a helicopter up there, but it was a lot,

1882
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I mean, and and he would be

1883
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: closer retirement agent at any level, but I don't think

1884
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: he was. He was getting he's still up there, still flying. Yeah, yeah,

1885
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean it's a like he's just one of those

1886
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 1: people you get into camp and you know who was

1887
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 1: the old outfitter that showed up there and was was

1888
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 1: hanging out with us? Was that stand? No, No, he's

1889
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it was Logan's uncle. Um, everybody was Logan's Lancaster.

1890
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Bart Lancaster. Um, there's the dad. I can't

1891
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: remember his name. It's a bar is it if? Bart's

1892
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: the guys up there currently? Yeah, that's the son. I

1893
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: can't remember Clay. There's a couple of sons, but it

1894
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: was the dad. I think that was older. Yeah. I mean,

1895
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: well either way, you get to you know, kind of

1896
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: an out there that's been up there for years and

1897
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: seeing this country and these are hard people. And you know,

1898
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: the funny thing that I remember from talking to these

1899
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: folks is they don't know how hard they are. No, Um,

1900
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: he's talking to Lee and he's talking about driving a

1901
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: bulldoze or three miles like it's just something people do. Yeah,

1902
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 1: and you just want to say, no, man, people don't

1903
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: do that, well, only you, And you're asking me, go, Lee,

1904
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: why did you do that? I didn't have anything to

1905
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: do in the Winner? Oh okay, all right then, so

1906
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: Netflix wasn't good enough. Yeah, obviously not. I can't imaginely

1907
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: sitting down watching The Tiger King wherever that is. Have

1908
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: you see Have you guys watched the Sagrify I have not.

1909
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: I'd well, we did a whole podcast on it, so

1910
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: if you wanna, I've actually I actually listened to half

1911
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 1: of that podcast before I got I I ended up

1912
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: back at work and I haven't listened to the rest

1913
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: of it. You did spark my interest, but I think

1914
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 1: a manti Tiger King when I found out. Yeah, it's

1915
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. It's hard to It's a tragic tale,

1916
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: but it's so insane that you just it's it's almost

1917
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: hard to believe, isn't it. Yeah, it's so out out

1918
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 1: of the just create every outrageous and every regard. It's

1919
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 1: like doing drugs. It's like doing psychedelics. You watched for

1920
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,879
Speaker 1: seven hours and you're like, I don't know what happened.

1921
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: I think I wasn't. I think i'm it was in

1922
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: a different place. I think I may have saw some

1923
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: things that weren't real. Uh. If they are real, I'm

1924
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: gonna pretend they work because I don't want to. I

1925
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 1: don't want to admit that that's a reality somewhere now

1926
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: you have. Now that I'm back down from this, I'm

1927
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 1: questioning everything. I'm not sure about reality. Yeah, Like there's

1928
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 1: so that's I think maybe one of the things I

1929
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: get from this for you guys too, is that your

1930
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: grandfather took something and he didn't just go to the

1931
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 1: Northwest Territory. To be clear. You start to look at

1932
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Gordon Eastman's legacy, I mean it's the north you know

1933
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: as a general direction that that is just kind of

1934
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: baked into what he did. But you know, he brought

1935
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 1: some things back from that that made him, you know, better,

1936
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: and probably made him a lot of the person that

1937
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: you got to know in your time with him. And

1938
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: then you know that's passed on to you and as

1939
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: we talked about in the beginning of this UM show,

1940
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 1: that's passed on in a weird way to your kids.

1941
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:43,679
Speaker 1: And so when I go up there and I see

1942
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: these people, I'm like, well, I'm taking a little bit

1943
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: of Lee back with me, and a little bit of

1944
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: these out there's and guides and Logan Peasley back with me.

1945
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 1: And so I'm sure your dad did that or your

1946
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: grandfather did that too, and passes to your dad and

1947
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: and onto you guys. Oh yeah, I think the stuff

1948
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 1: that they learned up there. You know, I was an

1949
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: adventure So every time I've ever been on an adventure,

1950
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I've learned something. If it's just from hard knocks or

1951
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: from somebody else, you know, definitely they took they got

1952
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 1: something and and and we've got something to show for

1953
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: it that he passed on. You're absolutely right, Yeah, And

1954
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: I think that's what you know when you guys, when

1955
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the ultimate tease because it maybe

1956
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: a while before you see this film. Um, you'll have

1957
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: to just come back and listen to this again. Yeah,

1958
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: whatever comes out, but it it, it really is. You know,

1959
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 1: there's not I don't know if you guys would agree

1960
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: with this. It's more a question, I guess in a statement.

1961
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: But you know, the the generational story that you guys

1962
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 1: have in the impact it's had on the outdoor community.

1963
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything like it, not that I

1964
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: know of. It's definitely unique. I think there's you know,

1965
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of great stories in the in

1966
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: the hunting industry, but it's it's I feel it's unique.

1967
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 1: Course we're kind of close to it, so I had

1968
01:43:55,960 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: a little biased opinion. Yeah, guy, Yeah, I agree. I mean,

1969
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to separate ourselves from it sometimes because

1970
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: it's our family legacy, so to speak, or or hunting tradition.

1971
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 1: But uh, but I think they you know, I can't

1972
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: speak enough about how good of a job those guys

1973
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 1: did on that that film. It really really a captured

1974
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 1: the essence of that, you know, that heritage, and it's

1975
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: not all about hunting. You know. It's it's funny because

1976
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: we're into that world, the hardcore hunting world and big

1977
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: game hunting and trophy hunting all that, and you kind

1978
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 1: of separate yourself from that in the film and and say,

1979
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's there's a lot different than I would

1980
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: have done it, because if we would have done it

1981
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: would have been all about the hunt and the sheep

1982
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: and and you know that part of it, and I

1983
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: think they did a great job of telling the story

1984
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: from a third perspective on the family, the history and

1985
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: the tradition and the area. Uh that we we wouldn't

1986
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: have have seen it. That's same way it could we

1987
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: could have never built that film for ourselves. It's yeah,

1988
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah. And I just emailed Ben Knight and said, hey,

1989
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: do you have some time this summer to film me

1990
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,839
Speaker 1: and then I'll use some videos with my grandfather. Can

1991
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: you make one of these for me? That a business

1992
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: you want to start, because it really it feels, you know,

1993
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: just just from seeing you and Mike and Gordon's it

1994
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: feels it's such so personal, but yet it's not, you know,

1995
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: it's it's emblematic too. Yeah. Yeah, it's something that will

1996
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: be able to show our grandkids, you know, because it

1997
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: it really puts it down, you know, permanently in stone

1998
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: so to speak, that we can pass that on down

1999
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 1: through the generations beyond us and in our family as well. Yeah,

2000
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I know you said in the in the film, and

2001
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,640
Speaker 1: then just this in general, like when you're going you

2002
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: guys had a tough hike up to this ram and

2003
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,600
Speaker 1: it's I mean it's you know, it ain't easy to

2004
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: get there. And guy, you were saying that you could

2005
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: just kind of here your grandfather's voice like keep going, kids,

2006
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: keep pushing. Yeah, do you remember that, you know that

2007
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,720
Speaker 1: moment like he's helping you get up there. Yeah, you

2008
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: just I don't know if it's sounds almost cliche to say,

2009
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: but you know you kind of hear hear him in

2010
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 1: your ear just same press on, you know, get up there,

2011
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 1: don't give up. I mean it was a long hike.

2012
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: We we hiked all day. I mean we left the

2013
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: right after breakfast seven a morning. I think we shot

2014
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 1: the ramit ten eleven o'clock at night because it doesn't

2015
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 1: get dark there. I mean it literally straight up hiking

2016
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: all day from breakfast till nine o'clock at night. I

2017
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: mean it was not easy, like Ike said earlier, but

2018
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, you go to a place like that and

2019
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: there was just so much gravitation to the nostalgia of

2020
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 1: the area in our history there that you get caught

2021
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: up in and it makes it makes it a little easier. Yeah. Well,

2022
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 1: I think I still I learned cribbage. I feel like

2023
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: we did play a bunch of that, didn't we. Yeah,

2024
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: and I feel like by the end I was I

2025
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 1: was looking You've been pretty good by the end. Yeah,

2026
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 1: I can say. I think I think the only game

2027
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 1: I won was the first one. Yeah, I still I

2028
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: was playing cribbage with my kids that day. I think

2029
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I might have lost. Glenda still says to this day,

2030
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 1: we burned up all the bandwidth for their entire season

2031
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 1: on the internet, the little internet we did get. But

2032
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 1: I said it was it was those camera guys, you

2033
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: know it was it was been in Travis, Well wasn't.

2034
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 1: It's we're outdoors and we don't need you, we don't

2035
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: need that stuff. Well anyway, Yeah, I mean Tan All

2036
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: Outfitters is the is the outfitting um that we went with.

2037
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for an eventual like this, Glenda

2038
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: and her family, it's a family that's another family run business.

2039
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 1: Now we're up there in camp and there's kids running

2040
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 1: around and husbands and wives and everybody's kind of doing

2041
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 1: it together, which which was cool to see. And her

2042
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: dad was there and he was a young man on

2043
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 1: the on the beginning of all that knew all a

2044
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:16,440
Speaker 1: lot of those same people like Stan Barrel and those outfitters,

2045
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 1: and he had actually trailed horses out of that camp,

2046
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 1: but for the outfitter that bought outstand the next outfitter,

2047
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 1: and so he had a lot of stories about that

2048
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: area as well, which is really interesting to to hear

2049
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: with common people that we knew. Yeah, and that's it's

2050
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: funny about that too. You know, you get into camp

2051
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:36,600
Speaker 1: like that. There's other hunters in camp of course, and

2052
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: other guides, and you know there's a bunch of people,

2053
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 1: but kind of the just the unique set of characters

2054
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: that you know, that country just breathes it, I think anyway, Well,

2055
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 1: those Canadians or there's something else, a lot of them,

2056
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 1: they're the ones that really get out in the bush

2057
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 1: like that and spent a lot of time back in

2058
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 1: the that back country. They are always interesting to be around.

2059
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 1: And my ones I've been around anyway, Yeah, no, for sure.

2060
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: And it just makes everything that much better. And then

2061
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, we can't get out of here without a

2062
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: quick a quick shout out to all the what's the hotel?

2063
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 1: And Norman Wells? What was that thing called? Damn? His name?

2064
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 1: The guy's name was Bill. Bill. We should have had

2065
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: Bill on now from Bill, Oh my gosh, that guy

2066
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 1: was a unique character. Wasn't. He and I were working

2067
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: there by the time we left because we got struck there,

2068
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 1: stuck there and weather, so he was having us drive

2069
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: the hotel rigs back and forth to the airport and

2070
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: pick people up the Heritage hotel. Everybody we saw a

2071
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 1: photo of that. I was digging through old pictures and

2072
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I saw a photo of that hotel when I was

2073
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: going through pictures the other day and brought back some memories.

2074
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: Spent half my life in that hotel. One week. Yeah,

2075
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: we got so, we got stuck at Norman Wells, a

2076
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 1: bunch of weather, we couldn't fly out the camp, and

2077
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: it was I was three days for day. I don't

2078
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 1: I can't even well, I think of me in there

2079
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: four days. You guys are there three days because you

2080
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: got stuck overnight and yellow Knife because of the point

2081
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 1: yep um. Yeah, and then we could have made our

2082
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 1: own kind of like Tiger King style Netflix show. By

2083
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: the end, it was getting a little you know, the

2084
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 1: bar only opens at five and closes it what But

2085
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: he didn't want to see what happened after more than

2086
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: two hours, so he'd only opened it for two hours though. Yeah, yeah,

2087
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: that the Yeah, then you'd go and try to get

2088
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: food and it would all be a sketchy, sketchy situation.

2089
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, this out of Norman wells Um a fantastic place.

2090
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't suggest it if you're a tourist per se

2091
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 1: no um, I would maybe avoided. But if if you have, uh,

2092
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 1: if you happen to be up in that country, I

2093
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 1: would stop in the hair at the show, tell tell

2094
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,720
Speaker 1: Bill we said what's up, and then tell them thanks

2095
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: for letting us put all our meat, all our in

2096
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 1: the hotel kitchens cooler. Yeah, don't tell the health inspector.

2097
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: We'll let you do this, okay, Yeah, don't you put

2098
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: your ashbags full of cariboo meat in the place where

2099
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: we keep the hamburgers and French fries. There's like seven

2100
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 1: yetie soft sides full of bram meat stacked in the corner. Yeah,

2101
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 1: I had to that. I remember eating on that cariboo

2102
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 1: for I don't know a year maybe after that, and

2103
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: I always every time, every time I got it out,

2104
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: I would, you know, I would think of, yeah, like

2105
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 1: throwing bags of meat. And I actually the other day

2106
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: we just sheep, we just we were digging. I was

2107
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: digging through my my freezer and I found one thing

2108
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 1: of burger of guy's sheep and we had tacos for Christmas,

2109
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 1: wasn't it. No, it was for breakfast in here to

2110
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 1: the Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, I bring breakfast one morning.

2111
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: It was the last package of sheep burger. I love it.

2112
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah. We went through that cariboo pretty quick.

2113
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, and that's the other thing. If you guys,

2114
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 1: if anybody ever goes up nowheth, don't let them take

2115
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 1: take your meat back with you. There that hard. They

2116
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 1: try to just swade you if you're gonn go all

2117
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,919
Speaker 1: the way to the end of the earth to get animals.

2118
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,719
Speaker 1: There's so many people, there are a lot of efforts.

2119
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: Don't but some some would would dissuade you from the effort.

2120
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: Please don't, don't deprive yourself. Well, we just we took

2121
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: that meat and stuffed it in soft side. Yeti's and

2122
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: bringing home and it was just fine by the time

2123
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: I got home. I drove home from Edmonton. When I

2124
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: crossed the border, he's like, you got I declared all

2125
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 1: the stuff and he just wanted to see the sheep

2126
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 1: porns because he wanted to see how big, you know,

2127
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,560
Speaker 1: how nice the ram was he didn't care about the

2128
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 1: meat or anything. He didn't. It's like, no worry, but

2129
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 1: that's Montana border crossing. But they they they see so

2130
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: much of it. They're like, yeah, whatever you now, if

2131
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you try to bring something exotic across or out of

2132
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 1: the ordinary, maybe, but not that they didn't look an

2133
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 1: eye at it. No, And yeah, I don't know where

2134
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,879
Speaker 1: where the ram sits for you guys, but my cariboot

2135
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: sits right about my freezer. And every time, I mean like,

2136
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 1: you can't walk into my house through the garage or

2137
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 1: walk in the garage with out seeing it. And it's

2138
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I've told the story where'd you get that? A million times? Um,

2139
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: where's your ramat? Now? Guy? Right in my living and

2140
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: right about my television. So I got to stare at

2141
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: it every day every night. Yeah. Good, Well, I'm glad

2142
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 1: eventually everybody will will see this story and kind of

2143
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 1: probably the most beautiful and poignant way possible thanks to

2144
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: Ben Night, Travis Rummel and you can hear a little

2145
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: bit of the story now, and I can wait with

2146
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 1: bated breath when yet he finally drops it. Yeah, well,

2147
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 1: we appreciate, appreciate getting the word out. Yeah, yeah, thanks

2148
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,560
Speaker 1: again for going along. It was fun. They have some

2149
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: horrible talent to work with, but their final product ended

2150
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: up really nice, some great scenery shots. Here's what I

2151
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 1: told the current yetie guys. They were like, hey, we

2152
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 1: think you got in the film and I said, oh yeah,

2153
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 1: and I watched it and I'm like, oh yeah, that

2154
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 1: I am taking a selfie with Ike. And I said,

2155
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: that's about the true representation of of the work I

2156
01:53:54,439 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: added to this film. Just one scene of me taking

2157
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: its selfie. It's about that's about the true representation of

2158
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 1: what I what I did in the counting. But yeah,

2159
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I would just say, like for me personally, um,

2160
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 1: getting to know you guys is great, but also just

2161
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: getting you know, to understand what you mean and your

2162
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:17,680
Speaker 1: family means that it's our community and to know that

2163
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: it's it's true and honest and you guys are straightforward

2164
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 1: bunch and there's no bullshit and I appreciate that all

2165
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: the way around, and and that you guys are carrying

2166
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: that on because it's I think it's important for every

2167
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 1: every hunter. Well, thanks, thank you, yeah, thanks for what

2168
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: you do. Keep keep up the good work and hopefully

2169
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: we'll get to see this sooner or later. Yes, sir,

2170
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 1: our boys, thank you right, that's it. That's all. Another

2171
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 1: episode in the books. Thank you to answer, Dakada, Spencer

2172
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 1: new Hearth, the badass airtone, hot tub loving mushroom fiend.

2173
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: And then Guy and Ike Eastman from out there in Wyoming.

2174
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: What a great story, what a great family. Those guys

2175
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: truly were a pleasure to be around on that hunt

2176
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: and then have enjoyed that my time I spent with

2177
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: them ever since. So we'll keep it brief. On the outro,

2178
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna see you next Tuesday on another episode of

2179
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: The Hunting Collective. We've got a lot of fun things

2180
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 1: and store a lot of new giveaways, new crazy things.

2181
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make Phil do, like grow his beard out

2182
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: for the entire quarantine. He's shaking his head no, but

2183
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna do it, And then we might

2184
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: even do Phil, what do you did? I talking about

2185
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: the wheel of at home haircuts, you briefly mentioned it

2186
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 1: as like a tease. Yeah, I'm thinking about buying a wheel.

2187
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 1: In fact, I've purchased a wheel where I would write

2188
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: like different haircuts on the wheel and then I would

2189
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 1: spin the wheel for different guests. And whatever it landed

2190
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: on that they'd have to give themselves that haircut, you know,

2191
01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: So imagine like Tiger King would be on there, uh

2192
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 1: mr T anything like that. Um you feel that's a

2193
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: good idea. I mean it depends how many guests would

2194
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: be willing to play along with your sick, twisted hair

2195
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 1: games that you that you force on onto people. Well,

2196
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, at least you, at least me. I'll do it.

2197
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 1: Will you do it? Will you? Like? Blood blood packed? Bro? Like,

2198
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 1: will you do it with me? What's that? We're breaking up?

2199
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 1: I can't really hear you blood packed? I said, Hey,

2200
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 1: what Ben, I'm losing you all right, We'll see you

2201
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: next time on THHC. Bye.