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Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: The World's of pigeon podcasts Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel piece and my Dante Scarnekia piece from the 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: Game Day magazine probably the you know, the thing that 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: I love the most that I've ever written. 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 4: So what about the film breakdown you did at Chicago 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: Bears game last year? 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: Some Ivan Fears, Great Ivan Fears quotes in there too. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 5: Patriots dot com too. 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: Oh god, I forgot about that because we have a 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: He's written by Eric's Calerino, who's been gone two years. 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 5: It was a retirement piece. 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Twenty two film? 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: Now, this is Patriot's Unfiltered. 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 6: Presented by Toyota's official website for deals by a Toyota 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 6: dot Com. 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and boy, the food tastes better, the 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: oxygen is more fresh. Everything. Yeah, everything's better. We haven't 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: had a win like that and I don't know how long, 35 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: but man, feels good, feels so good. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 5: It was an exciting game too. It wasn't just like 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 5: you you won, you know, the other team rolled up. 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 5: It was a good game, great finish, yeah, I mean 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 5: a lot of good stuff. 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: The Bills were a good team. They showed their metal 41 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. They didn't have their 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: best game, but at the end of the game, Josh 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Allen does what great quarterbacks do. He you know, got 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: it together and they scored two touchdowns. But yet the 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Patriots were able to overcome that. Come you know, I 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: think you can truck it up as it come from 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: behind win right sure? Oh yeah, yeah, come back fourth quarter, 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: even though you were winning for fifty eight minutes. 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 5: You know, now, the way the NFL does it, it won't. 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: But yes, it absolutely counts as a un because they 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 5: because it's trailing entering the fourth quarter. 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so back and forth and the fourth I 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: will count. 54 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: I will count it. 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: Oh, it definitely counts. Yeah, and it would count. 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, Mac, everybody else's Mac had to have a 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: game winning drive. And he did it. 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: He did it, And I mean I've said it a 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: couple of times. 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: I just I like that it came off of what 61 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: could have been a devastating mistake the. 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 5: Fun black guy Kendrick Bourne, which you know I should say. 63 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: I feel it was really hard on him on the 64 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 5: prost Game Show. 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: I think I was just like, that was a nice 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: play by poor to punch it out, like I put 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: him on the down list, and I kind of regret 68 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: it a little bit, just because I thought he made 69 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 4: some plays, but not the time for a down list. 70 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 4: It wasn't a time for a downlist for kender Bourne. 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: Yet he did have a good game. But I just 72 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: liked that they had that mistake and you said, all right, well, Pero, 73 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: it is this is where you can fold and you 74 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 4: know they did score, and you know it just it 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: gave an opportunity for them to pick themselves up off 76 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: the mat and go down and like you said, get 77 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: that win against Buffalo. 78 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 7: That it's like, you know, over these years, the Jets 79 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 7: have done it a couple of times. You're like, how 80 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 7: did the Jets just dumb into a. 81 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: Win over Buffalo? 82 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: And for some reason it's like, you know, seven out 83 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: of the last eight, like every time. 84 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: It's just like same game getting hammered. So it was great. 85 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: It was a great, great win for these. 86 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: So we have that to talk about what it means 87 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: that game going forward. Perhaps it's Deuce, it's Tamara, it's Evan, Paul, myself, 88 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: Matt and the booth. We'll be here for the next 89 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: two hours talking about Patriots. It's right, and we have 90 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: good things to talk about. Like it's it's great. 91 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 5: It's nice to have Fred back. No, I mean it's nice. 92 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: You know, you start the game and you get the inactives, 93 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: you look at the warm ups and you see on 94 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: when you at the right tackle and you're like, okay, okay, 95 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: they're seeing what we're seeing. They're they're making a move 96 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: and I think to me that was like the catalyst 97 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: for it being a good day. I really do. I think, 98 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: you know, having him at the right would sow next 99 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: to him. I think that that was. 100 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: You know, who can we double check that on when you? Sorry? 101 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: What is it? 102 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what did I say on. 103 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: When you know? That's what you guys say. But I'm 104 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: still stuck on on on when it could be? 105 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: It could be you say, Chandler Jones, can you say 106 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: that again on. 107 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: When you so? I kind of stressed the Yeah, I 108 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: kind of do you and he. 109 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: Does, sorry to distract us, Yeah. 110 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, anyway, but like I think Max Mike, I think 111 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: Max saw that, and obviously they probably practiced it during 112 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: the week, right, I'm sure like. 113 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 7: He said Wednesday, was that they came to him instead. 114 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mac. I think that gave Mac a little 115 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: bit more confidence. I don't know if it gave him 116 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: any more time because the ball was out of his 117 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: hands so fast during the game. But I think that 118 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: was one of the things that you can point to 119 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: that was different that worked. Yeah. 120 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, getting Douglas involved, I mean, he's another thing. 121 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: You know. 122 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: The thing I didn't realize too was that he drew 123 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: three penalties and all of them led to touchdowns. Like 124 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: all of them, all the penalties that he drew, I 125 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: think it was one defensive holding, two oh PI or 126 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: DPIs they all ended up in a touchdown. So I mean, 127 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: he just was involved a lot and led to a 128 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: lot of good things, and I just I hope they 129 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: can continue to be. 130 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 7: Some of those catches he made were outstanding. 131 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 5: You know, It's like to me was more impressive even 132 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 5: and I know it didn't matter, but the penalties that 133 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 5: he drew, he cut the ball anyway, yeah, you know, 134 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: and contested catches for a guy who's a little smaller 135 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: in stature, kind of don't know to travel. 136 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: He looked like I said it in the post game show, 137 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: he looked like a veteran, Like the confidence, the sure handedness, 138 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: obviously the vision once he has the ball. He didn't 139 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: look like a rookie, not me. 140 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 7: He looked better than I had seen him. 141 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: Man, it was like he got concussed and all of 142 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: a sudden it kind of all clicked for him for 143 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: some reason, like you know, like. 144 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 5: Oh that's all he needed that way, But he was 145 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: he was excellent. 146 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 7: That was a new level I haven't even seen that 147 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 7: out of him. 148 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 8: Yet I also really liked the tight ends, and I 149 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 8: don't know if it was just because it was National. 150 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 9: Tight End Day and they were feeling it a little. 151 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: Bit more days National tight End. 152 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: It seems like a whole the whole NFL season is 153 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 5: devoted to George Oh. 154 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Now that Taylor Swift likes a tight end, I mean, that's. 155 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 5: That's the position of the position. 156 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 9: But they were great, and you know, starting off, that 157 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 9: was already the position. 158 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 8: Starting off with Pharaoh Brown, it seems like, you know, 159 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 8: whenever he gets the opportunity, he has a big play, 160 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 8: and it just went up from there. 161 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Downtown Brown. 162 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 7: It's unbelievable, Downtown a couple of times. 163 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, moving up the pyramid. 164 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: I want to just Bill O'Brien just come out to 165 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: the middle the fifty yard line and take about take 166 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: about I don't I don't think I can remember. You 167 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: have to go back to Brady McDaniels for a game 168 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: plan that was as well constructed as that one. He 169 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: was a step ahead of Sean McDermott for four quarters. 170 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: I thought that Mac played exceptionally well in the fourth 171 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: quarter of this game, But the first three quarters, Billy oh, 172 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: drove the ship, he carried the offense. 173 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: Normally I would push back and say, well, it's just 174 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: because they executed it better. But Mac after the game 175 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: specifically said he gave credit to Bill O'Brien, said, he 176 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: did we did a lot of things that I feel 177 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: comfortable doing. Well. 178 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: I think they did a lot of different things too. 179 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: It was an absolute thing of beauty. It was a 180 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: masterclass by Bill O'Brien. Is it sustainable the execution part 181 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: of it or the x's and O is part of it? 182 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: Because those are two different things. 183 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, go ahead. 184 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: I didn't wanted to come No, I. 185 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: Think it because that's my big picture question coming off 186 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: this game, is was that the Patriots super Bowl? Or 187 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: is that the Patriots now? 188 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Right? 189 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: Like, because we've seen this on the other side, where 190 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: you know, do you catch the Giants sleeping, you win 191 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: the upset game, and then the very next week you 192 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: lose by thirty points and like it's kind of just 193 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: all right, well, what was the point even of beating Buffalo? 194 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: But if this is how they're going to play offense 195 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: moving forward? That opening script, the opening where they have 196 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins like they're coming out, they're motioning Pop Douglas, 197 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: They're running all sorts of misdirection in motion in the 198 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: running game, they're bootlegging like Pharaoh Brown bootleg. And then 199 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: I hit him for like twenty two yards something like 200 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: that in the opening drive. That was as well of 201 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: a design to plan as I've seen the Patriots have 202 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: in years. I mean, he was on fire. 203 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: How much of it was this was the right matchup? 204 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: Or do you, like Paul said, is this sustainable? Oh? 205 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 5: I don't know. If I didn't know if it's sustainable, 206 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: I would say what they did you can do every 207 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: week if you want to. But I do wonder how 208 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: much the style of defense that Buffalo plays, right, I 209 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: think that if you look at some of the better 210 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 5: games that even this iteration of the Patriots offense has had, 211 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: Like they moved the ball pretty well last year in Buffalo. 212 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 10: If you if you recall and that especially, That's what 213 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 10: I'm talking about, But that the game in Buffalo, they 214 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 10: moved the ball pretty well, and they gave themselves a 215 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 10: chance to get in a shootout if they didn't give 216 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 10: up the second kick return. 217 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 5: You know, And I do think the style I think 218 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: Buffalo's defense is good. I'm not telling you that they stink. 219 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: So again, I'm guarding a minute, I'm guarding against the 220 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 5: Blah police, right. I think Buffalo's defense is good, but 221 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 5: I think it's a good matchup for the Patriots. I 222 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 5: think they like to get the ball out quickly, short, 223 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: and Buffalo likes to play soft z own. I think 224 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 5: that really kind of like really factors into the. 225 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Equations, the role of a coordinated to recognize them well. 226 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: And that's why, like, I'm happy that Evan you know, 227 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: cited Bill O'Brien fred as you came down for the 228 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 5: post game show. That was how I let off the good, 229 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 5: the bad, and the injured. Was my good was coaching period. 230 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 5: Like the game plan that they had I thought really 231 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: kept Buffalo on its heels for sixty plus minutes. Now, 232 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 5: it wasn't perfect because they're not that good. They can't 233 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: dominate a good team like on the school board on this, 234 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 5: you know, on the stat sheet for sixty minutes every game. 235 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 5: That's not they're not good enough to do that. But 236 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: they took what they had and they kept Buffalo off 237 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: guard throughout the game, and there were some peaks and 238 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: valleys along the way. But I really thought the motion 239 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 5: stuff that Evan's talking about, the quick stuff to Douglas, 240 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 5: And what I really like is we get made fun 241 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 5: of all the time. Like, listen to these guys. They're 242 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 5: trying to tell Bill Belichick what to do, Like he 243 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: doesn't know. No, we're not trying to tell. But when 244 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: a lot of people want to do something and they 245 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: actually do it, then it's okay. Like this, like people 246 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 5: have been saying, put a one U at tackle, people 247 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 5: are saying just you know, sort of just go with 248 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: more dogs, go with Douglas as the focal point. He's 249 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: the best game. You know, people were complaining when Douglas 250 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: got benched for fumbling. Let him play through the mistakes 251 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 5: and maybe he'll make more plays than makes that he 252 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: makes mistakes if you just stick with it. That was 253 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: what this game was, you know, because he made mistakes 254 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 5: and I think Mac was pissed at him on that sack. 255 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: Yes, ran right into the zone defender instead of sitting 256 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: at you. 257 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: But this is like we don't know more than anybody 258 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 5: that's that's working in the NFL, and we don't pretend to, 259 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 5: but sometimes you can just see the this might work 260 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 5: let it, you know, just sort of let it work. 261 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: Hatians. 262 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he just so everybody against the Patriots, 263 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: Buffalo included, is just playing a ton of man coverage. 264 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: Like they just don't think that you can beat them 265 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: in man coverage because the Patriots don't have their receivers. 266 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 3: So very first player of the game, Patriots go under center, 267 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: they get single high man to man, and they motioned 268 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: Douglas and now it becomes a horror horizontal track meet, Like, 269 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: all right, if you're gonna just come up and play 270 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 3: man to man against us, we're not gonna let you 271 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: press our receivers at the line, and we're gonna make 272 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: you tackle in space. 273 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 5: So what do they do. 274 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: They motion him across the formation, They throw them the 275 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: cheap motion throw, and then he just spins Tron Johnson 276 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: like a top with the ball in his hands and 277 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: puts him in a blender and now you're nine yards 278 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: on first down. Now it's second and one. Like that 279 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: was the game plan, and it got Buffalo to play 280 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: more zone. I think Buffalo wanted to play man to 281 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: man in this game. I think they wanted to come 282 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: out and play a bunch of man and then pop Douglas, 283 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: to his credit, was terrific. I mean they couldn't cover 284 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: the guy like he was opened the entire game for 285 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: four quarters. 286 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 5: Opened a couple. 287 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: Times on the goal line too, where he probably could 288 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: have gotten a touchdown. On the second to last play 289 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: from scrimmage, mac overthrew that ball, and then on Bourne's touchdown, 290 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: Douglas was open as well. He could have thrown a 291 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: touchdown to either one of the guys. He just threw 292 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 3: it to Bourne. So Douglas was great, but they are 293 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: have base turned him into discount Tyreek Hill. You know, 294 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: he's just running verticals and motion routes all over the place, 295 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: and then the motion gets married up to the running 296 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 3: game and now they're running the ball again, and that 297 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: that's just how the whole thing opens up. This started, 298 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: I would say, in the second half against the Raiders, 299 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: but they didn't make the changes on the line yet. 300 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: You know, like I saw it coming in the third 301 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: and fourth quarter against Vegas. They all this motion and 302 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: all the different things that all the tools that O'Brien 303 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: was starting to unlock, and I was like, you know. 304 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: Well they started the motion against Dallas right away. Yeah, 305 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: but then the game got out. 306 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: Of hand, right, And I think, you know, with O'Brien, 307 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: it wasn't going to happen overnight. Like he had a 308 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: lot to fix and there was a lot of different 309 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: things that he wanted to install and wanted to bring here. 310 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: And I think unfortunately the losses snowballed on them so 311 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: quickly that maybe they're in a hole that they can't 312 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: dig themselves out of. But I always thought that the 313 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: second half of the season for the offense was going 314 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: to be better than the first half ones. O'Brien got 315 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: the ship up and running. Now he's got it in 316 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: a much better spot and we'll see what they look 317 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: like going forward. 318 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's good stuff. And then on defense again 319 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. You let up the two, but they constantly 320 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: pressured alan they got him off platform, as Evan would say, 321 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: and he was forced to throw a lot of balls away. 322 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: You know. This time when he did extend plays, it did. 323 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: They didn't get hurt as much as they did in 324 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: the past. And you know, credit, I guess credit to 325 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Steven Gerrod for dialing up what they did different ways 326 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: to get pressure. Sometimes it was Bentley, you know, Wise 327 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: was in there. Bar Moore had a game, Like, if 328 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: he keeps playing like that, that's hit it out, like 329 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: pushing it forward. I felt like replying, if you keep 330 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: playing like that, you're gonna be pushing bags forward, you know, 331 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: because you're gonna be worth a lot on it. Yeah, 332 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: you get it. 333 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: I think he heard induced compare him to Adam Butler 334 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: and and now he's just been playing like an absolutely no. 335 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: I mean that game was the game that I envisioned 336 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: when he was a rookie little flashes, but I haven't 337 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 5: really seen that Christian Barmore since ye. 338 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: Poor poor Cyrus Torrents. 339 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I read your review, and I love 340 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: the way you put it. You know, he picked his 341 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: spots when to do his best pass rush and then 342 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: other times, you know, played the job that he was 343 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: given in just maintaining his his two gaps. You know, 344 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: I think that blend of of what he did and 345 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: when he did it was perfect. 346 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 7: You know, they needed it. I mean, and you know 347 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 7: throw Wise in there. 348 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: I mean, all these guys, I mean I think had 349 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: you know, some moments and why penalty or two, but 350 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: you know, Jennings just these guys had to step up 351 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: and we all know what what what we thought it 352 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: was going to look like when Gonzales and Jude On 353 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: and then even Ouch was out and it was like, man, 354 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: they they're going to struggle to. 355 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: Get after the passer. But I think you guys are 356 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 5: totally right. 357 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: Bar More just I mean they need him to continue 358 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: that against Miami this week. 359 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 5: With their line issues. 360 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: I mean, this is you know, potentially where they could 361 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: find something to build off. 362 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: And strangely like that was one area that Buffalo didn't 363 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 5: have really health issues. Their offensive line was reasonably healthy. Yeah, 364 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 5: heading into that game, the Patriots just it. 365 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: Was funny that guy o Cyrus Torrence was at the 366 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl and they were just praising him like every 367 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: and I remember watching him and being like, this is 368 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: what a first round guard probably looks like, you know, 369 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: just compared to cold strange like, he just was tough 370 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: and stout. 371 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: But then Barmore took him to school. So and then 372 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 5: you know, don't don't watch. 373 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: The you know, in just the usage, the number of 374 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, the number of snaps guys were getting seemed 375 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: like the perfect mix, you know, going back to offensepu right, 376 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: but you know, we realized that they were kind of 377 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: wasting snaps on Parker, you know, so you know, pulling 378 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: back Parker a little bit and getting whether it's Raeger 379 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: out there more or you know. 380 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: They had some speed lineups which I liked. 381 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: I like, when's speed not a good thing? And the 382 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: NFL like when doesn't that match up? 383 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 8: I know, I will say Fred, I don't know if 384 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 8: you listened to Steve Tasker when he called in from 385 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 8: the Bills, but he called this game to be close. 386 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 8: Like he was like, I don't think this is going 387 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 8: to be the blaw I every woe thinks it's going 388 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 8: to be. He was like, the way the Bills have 389 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 8: been playing, they've been going downwards since that Jaguars game. 390 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 8: So yeah, he could fall. 391 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 5: That's funny. Nobody in nobody in New England gave the 392 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: Patriots much of a chance. Everybody in Buffalo did, because 393 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 5: everybody in Buffalo the s guy is absolutely falling and 394 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 5: they want Ken Dorsey out. 395 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: True, rightfully, So that's a good point. It's a different perspective. 396 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: There that I understand the Bills fans gripes. I think 397 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 3: that they're all warranted. At this point. He finally got 398 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: a game where Josh Allen didn't play out of his mind. 399 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: Like that was I think the biggest takeaway from the defense. 400 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: Like not to take away what they did defensively to 401 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: get him there, but there are throws in this game 402 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: that Josh Allen makes in his sleep that he missed 403 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: in this one. So I don't want to like overreact 404 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: too much to Oh, they they solved the bills, they 405 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: got the game. The one thing I would say that 406 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: they did that I liked was that they blitzed him 407 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 3: half the time fifty percent of his dropbacks. They sent 408 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: extra pressure and they didn't just sit back in soft 409 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: zone and just you know, make them march it and 410 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: all that, because that's what they had been doing and 411 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: he was just picking them apart, you know, without any pressure. 412 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: So in this game they went after him. They did 413 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: blitz him a lot, but I couldn't count four or 414 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: five throws off the top of my head in this 415 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: game where I was like he, like, what's he doing that? 416 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 4: During the game, like we were watching, like, oh, here 417 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: it is. You know, they flush him out, And I 418 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: mean I do think they get some credit just because 419 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 4: I think they had just the timing of their rushes. 420 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 7: It almost just it made him miss some of the windows. 421 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: I feel like he hit somebod I don't think they would, 422 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 5: like to Evan's point, there was some of them. I 423 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 5: don't they did flush him. The pressure was the best 424 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 5: thing the Patriots did. 425 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 426 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 5: Everything else I think left a lot to be desired. 427 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 5: And I don't think that some of the throws he 428 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 5: missed worrlfully difficult throws. He just holds one of those 429 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 5: days just to like comparent, Like we talked about sustainability, 430 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 5: which I'm sure like the second hour today is going 431 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 5: to be about, you know, the playoff. 432 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: Train path, Paul, twelve and five in play. 433 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: And there is a path, yeah, twelve and five, yeah, five, But. 434 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: There are two games they've won so far against the 435 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: AFC East. If they beat Miami, Like, I don't that 436 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: schedules is favorable to them. 437 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: Talk to me, then talk to me. They talk to 438 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 5: me when they win the games. Absolutely, yeah, I mean, 439 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 5: like I know, but three and five, you're two games 440 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 5: out of the playoffs. It's a tot if they wanted. 441 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 5: The schedule is coming up, Paul, correct the soft underbuilding 442 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 5: which they're in right now. They just went one and 443 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: two in the soft part of the schedule. 444 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's the soft spots. 445 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Washington's in Vegas was a soft part of 446 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 5: the schedule. 447 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: I haven't played in Washington yet. 448 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: Washington Lands in Vegas were a soft part of the schedule. Washington, Washington, 449 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: and Washington. Indeed, Giants, Chargers right, all under five hundred. 450 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: So if they if they w I'm just saying, like, 451 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: if we want to talk about it, like if they. 452 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 5: Were in relation to five hundred with the are the 453 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: Saints and the Raiders under I don't. 454 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: I don't agree those games were easier, but you always 455 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: had after that, Mike. 456 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be with I'm with you. Now now they 457 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 5: figure if they if they win these guess well, that's 458 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 5: different now. But now you're changing the narrative if something 459 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 5: happens that hasn't happened, I know. 460 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: But if they I'm in But if they figured it 461 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: out and they had to play all the top echelon 462 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: teams coming up, I'd be like, but they have a 463 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: chance to like kind of get back to the middle 464 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: in terms of five hundred. 465 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: You know, five and five at the Buyers and play, 466 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: they could they could in play? 467 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: Well, yes, when you only have five games and we're 468 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: not you only have five losses. It's in frends. Twelve 469 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 5: and five is in play. They've only lost five games. 470 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: Okay, but twelve and five is ridiculous. 471 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 5: Okay, five and five at the buy not really like that. 472 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: No one's penciling them in. I'm just saying it's a 473 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: possible before. 474 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 5: Literally just it. 475 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: He said it's a possibility. 476 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 5: He said it. 477 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: I was joking about it. But yeah, no, it's if 478 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: you would, If you, that's I can't you you. But 479 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: in all seriousness, though, like you don't feel good if 480 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 3: they I feel great about Sunday. You know, I'm not 481 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: talking about this week. But if you don't, if they 482 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: you don't feel good about Washington and Indie. 483 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 5: But winning both of those games, and you asked me 484 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 5: right now, No, I'll say this little just like I 485 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 5: did against New Orleans in Vegas. 486 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: They should get split those teams. 487 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 5: I just don't know why. 488 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not there. 489 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 5: I will win, like just change. 490 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. 491 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 5: Everything I've seen in seven games. One game just changed. 492 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: I started out by saying if they beat Miami then 493 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: that we could get on a roll. Yeah, that's because 494 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: because the because the schedule favors that I. 495 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 5: Still would look at the next two as being probably 496 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 5: a split. 497 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Listen right now, you got Miami's like a ten point favorite, 498 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: and they should be. They should be. 499 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 5: That's all. 500 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. If you can upset Miami in Miami, 501 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: hold on, now, hold on. 502 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: I just like, but I don't even know if they 503 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: have to beat Miami. Well, that's my point. Like, if 504 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: you if you lose to Miami, but you're competitive against 505 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: Miami and you kind of go toe to toe with 506 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: them a little bit the next four games in the schedule, 507 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Paul. They're not good teams. It's Washington indeed, 508 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: Giant Chargers, you're not either, Okay, But like they if 509 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: they've found something and they flipped the switch. 510 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: Here off, that's different. That's something happens that it hasn't 511 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 5: happened yet. 512 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: If they lose a thirty five thirty game to Miami, 513 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: and then we're. 514 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: All going so just saying, if no, no, no, if they 515 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: flip a switch and play at a level that they 516 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: haven't played yet, yeah, that's different. Then I'll say I'm 517 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: not going to sit there and say no, no, no, no, no, no, 518 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 5: you're wrong, you're wrong. They didn't play well. But but 519 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 5: he followed Sunday they played. Well, if they played the 520 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 5: next five games like they played Sunday, I think they 521 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 5: they're in there. 522 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: I said, if you go down to Miami and your 523 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: toe to toe with them. 524 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: He didn't even say when I need to see the 525 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 5: toe to toe Like people think they went toe to 526 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 5: toe in week two, I don't think they did. 527 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: If what we think they've learned this game shows up 528 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: in Miami, hold. 529 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: On, So all right, this is what I would say, like, 530 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: hold on when you when you look, when you look 531 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: at these I don't know why he always always goes spoken. 532 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 5: So like the Buffalo, the Buffalo game that they're talking 533 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 5: about firing coordinators, they're talking about Josh Allen just didn't 534 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 5: have a game, and you look at the game at 535 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 5: the end of the day and the statuard like dead. 536 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 5: Even one team played as well as it's played in 537 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: about two and a half years, another team is looking 538 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: to fire people. This is my point that that's my 539 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 5: only point. 540 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: No, you're you're right, you're right. I just one I 541 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: want to believe. 542 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 5: I want to believe. Well, that's the whole time. That's 543 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: why Fred was like, actually it wasn't for it was Matt. 544 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 5: Matt comes to me yesterday, he goes, Okay, why don't 545 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 5: you rain in my parade? I go, I got not. 546 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 5: I have no rain at all. I said, the Patriots. 547 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 5: This is kind of this is no, no, no, I'm 548 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 5: talking about Sunday, the Patriots on Sunday. I'm happy to 549 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 5: talk about any superlative coming out of the game Sunday 550 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 5: that anybody took away. I think the Patriots were a 551 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 5: better team for sixty minutes on Sunday, and they almost 552 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 5: lost the game because of one mistake, which shows you 553 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 5: how small their margin of error can be. 554 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't think i'd see what I saw 555 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: on some. 556 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 5: I didn't either, So that's why I'm not I'm not 557 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 5: raining on any parade about Sunday. 558 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm opening the window a little bit. 559 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it's cracking. It's it's it's to me. I 560 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 10: wish I had you as a college professor. 561 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 5: But it becomes you got a seven, did nothing in 562 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 5: the seven classes that we had, but you came to 563 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 5: the eighth one and you did well. That's an a 564 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 5: thanks super Bowl. 565 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: But like I think it comes down to, it comes 566 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: down to O'Brien. 567 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: Like you. 568 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: Knew that it was going to be bumpy to start. 569 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 3: You had to have known that, Like they didn't have 570 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 3: a lot of talent on offense. Mac needed to be 571 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: put back together, he needed to figure out the offensive line, 572 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: and unfortunately they just went one in five. Like I 573 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: think that if you asked true Sierram Bill Belichick, he 574 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: would have said, like, we were going to hope the 575 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: defense was going to carry us and we were going 576 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: to tread water in the first six or seven games 577 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: of the season, and they just bottomed out. 578 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: Like that's the difference, right. 579 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: They bottom That's the thing is like it was going 580 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: this way, it's going downhill, until yesterday it was going 581 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. 582 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, And I feel like, you know, they obviously could 583 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 8: not predict that Christian Gonzales, Matthew Junon, all the Joneses 584 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 8: were all going to be hurt. Like I feel like 585 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 8: they didn't predict that. 586 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: Injuries never helped. 587 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 8: And it's like when you when you depended on when 588 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 8: he depended on relying on the defense, I think this 589 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 8: is where he ended up in trouble. 590 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that they they didn't There's no way, 591 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: even as as limited as they can be at times, 592 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 3: offensively that they thought they were going to be thirty 593 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: second in the league and scoring through six six weeks, 594 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: there's no way. So they probably figured that, Okay, we're 595 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: going to be probably where we were last year on 596 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: offense until O'Brien figures this thing out and maximizes what 597 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: he has. And then I really think over the last 598 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: six quarters he's come pretty darn close to maximizing what 599 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: they have. And now you get Pop Douglas back from 600 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 3: the injury you kick on when who back out to tackle, 601 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: and like, let's see what happens. Like I'm I'm I 602 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 3: kind of thought that this is how it was going 603 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 3: to go offensively all along, but I was just hoping 604 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 3: that they could keep it together with the defense through 605 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: the first six weeks, and unfortunately they started one and five. 606 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I hear what EV's saying. 607 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: I just I mean, I just worry that they get 608 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: into a twelve point hole again or you know, fourteen 609 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: point hole again, and all of a sudden, we're out 610 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 4: of the game plan and we can't do the things 611 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 4: we want to do, and now all our awards come out, 612 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: like you know, there's a lot left to prove, and like, yeah, 613 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: I think we did expect a little bit of clunkiness 614 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 4: early on, and I think maybe went on longer than 615 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 4: it should have with the play of the offensive line. 616 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: But I'm not you know, I'm not like, all right, 617 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: we turned the corner and now we're here, like. 618 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: I'll go back to how I started. Maybe next time, 619 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: if you go behind by ten or twelve, maybe the 620 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: line holds up a little bit. Even when the team 621 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: knows you have to throw. Maybe this configuration of the 622 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: line is a little better so that you have a 623 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: puncher's chance of, you know, putting some together where in 624 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: the past you had no shot. 625 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 5: I know. 626 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 4: And that's I mean, I think as as Paul was 627 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: hinting at, I mean, I really like what they did. 628 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: I like him when you're there, I think, you know, 629 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: Cities put together two couple of good weeks. 630 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 5: Like I mean, he looks like a player inside. I 631 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 5: like him. Do you think that that was like that 632 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 5: much better like the past protection in that game? I 633 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 5: just think it was a product of the score. Well 634 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 5: I'm sure, yeah, I think And now listen when they 635 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: got hot in twenty twenty one, that's how they did it. 636 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 5: But they played a lot of games like they did Sunday. 637 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: They got the lead, they made the other team chase them, 638 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 5: they were able to protect, and they like, I'm not 639 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 5: telling you that can't happen Sunday, But against Miami isn't the. 640 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: Most important thing, not like, you know, the evidence that 641 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: the line was better. But what Mac thinks. 642 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he felt really comfortable was my point. 643 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: Okay, but I agree, well, I think there were times 644 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: are he panicked? 645 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Ran, I mean, I'm still looking down At 646 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: the point I was getting to was that I think 647 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: strangers continues to be. 648 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: But when they look at that tape and they say, Mac, 649 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: you had you had a couple of seconds here, you 650 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: didn't have to like, yeah, that's gonna help. 651 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: The one thing I think that was encouraging about. You know, 652 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 3: I thought for the first three quarters Mack was fine 653 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: in this game. I didn't really think he was anything special, 654 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: and I thought that he was looking at the rush 655 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: a lot throughout the game. But in the fourth quarter, 656 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: when the money was on the line, he stood in 657 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: there and I think he said to himself, either it's 658 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: gonna blow up in my face or I'm gonna win 659 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: the game. But either way, I can't be scared. 660 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: I can't go. 661 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 5: It was huge, Like the biggest play of the game 662 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 5: was to me, the third down throw to Hunter Henry. Yeah, 663 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 5: and the pressure that came immediate was blindside. He never 664 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 5: knew it was there. Yeah, Like if that was like 665 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 5: up the middle the way it had been against so 666 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 5: in strange, you know, earlier or front side. I wonder, 667 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 5: I wonder if the throw would have been the same 668 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 5: because if he had any idea how close Epaneso was 669 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 5: to a strip sack there, I don't know if that 670 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 5: play ends the same way. 671 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he made some good throws in this game in 672 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: his muddy year. 673 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: Posets out standing in the fourth yeah. 674 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: And was great in the fourth quarter. But and what 675 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: I think was most encouraging too, was he made a 676 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: lot of like second and third read throws. Like I 677 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: think that some of the throws that he's made, even 678 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks when he hasn't been 679 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: playing great, have just been first reads, open balls out 680 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: quickly and we're moving this game, you know. He was 681 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: able to get off the first read and get his 682 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: eyes too, number two and two, number three and make 683 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: throws throughout the progressions. And that was something that I 684 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: hadn't really seen him do for like a month was 685 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: move off that you know, staring down receivers, looking at 686 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: the first read and kind of having tunnel vision for guys. 687 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: And in this game, you know the throw to Pop 688 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: Douglas in the first half off the play action. That 689 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: play is set up to hit Kendrick Bourne in the 690 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: flat on a little whip route and it's covered and 691 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: he comes off it gets to Douglas in the middle 692 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: of the field, makes the throw. So those are the 693 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: encouraging things Like that's when you know a quarterback is 694 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: trusting the pocket a little bit more is when it's 695 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: not just first read in panic, right, Like, it's that 696 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: you actually are able to sit there and go through 697 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: a progression. And he was able to do that in 698 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: this game. 699 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: So listen, And I'm not kidding myself. I'm thrilled with 700 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: the win. But they're not that great. They're not that 701 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: good a team right now, and I think this test 702 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: going on, Miami's going to be tougher than home against 703 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: the Bills. 704 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: Like I think you have a shot. I do because 705 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 5: I think Miami's in a tough spot and I think 706 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 5: that they're real I mean I know, listen, I know 707 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 5: we've fixated so much on that injury report, which I 708 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 5: think is largely fiction. Like there's seventeen guys questionable, they 709 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 5: all play. It's like one guy that didn't play where 710 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: I think people are looking at that they were missing 711 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 5: Judean and Gonzales, Like the other team had four starters 712 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 5: on defense that was not playing. Like everybody is dealing 713 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 5: with the same thing, and Miami's dealing with the same thing. 714 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: That you are. 715 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 5: So I think you got a shot to go down there. 716 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 5: If they're missing three, they're missing left tackle, left guard, 717 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 5: and center again where they were Sunday night. You can 718 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 5: get heat on tour and do the same thing to 719 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: him that you did to Josh Allen. 720 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 8: And especially if Watle is TBD with a back injury too, 721 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 8: that could be helpful if he also doesn't play. 722 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like all these teams have stuff. 723 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 5: Two of their best defensive players banged into each other 724 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: in the middle of the game. My guess is, like 725 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 5: David Long didn't return, I guess he's out. He's probably 726 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 5: in concussion protocol. 727 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 11: Now. 728 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 5: Holland I think did return. Jevon Holland, so I think, 729 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: you know he only missed four plays in the game, 730 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 5: so I think he'll probably play. But like, there's a 731 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 5: lot of key personnel on all of these teams. Patriots included. 732 00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 8: It. 733 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: Around the league, a lot of crazy games. 734 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: Is Oh my gosh, I don't know how you guys 735 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 4: know the games are also fixed. 736 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 5: Boy convinced. How bad did we do this week? 737 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, everybody was bad? This was this was frightening, epic. 738 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, epically bad against Man. 739 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: The Dolphins really took it. They took it bad Sunday night. Yeah, 740 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: ten penalties to none. 741 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I thought. I had a conspiracy theory. 742 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: This was the Caleb Williams effect. This weekend. A lot 743 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: of one win teams said, you know what, we don't 744 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: have to have the top pick, so let's try And 745 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: seems annoying Minnesota, you know, well didn't didn't didn't They 746 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: both did both didn't him and Drake may Louse last 747 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: weekend too. Yeah, so like, you know, you know what, 748 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: let's win some games. 749 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: It's it's funny though, like I just I'm trying to 750 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: just appreciate this win right now, because it's like, you know, 751 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: it's so easy to be like, well, they have this 752 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 4: coming up and then like this is then and like 753 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: they could these. 754 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 5: Guys there, you know, get so fat. 755 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: Like I just am trying to hold on to just 756 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 4: the excitement from this win, the good energy right now, 757 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: and certainly Miami's on my mind, but like thinking about 758 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 4: Washington and Indie and you know, it's like I can't 759 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: get there yet. I just I want to enjoy this one. 760 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: I want to look at this week on Wednesday, key yea, make. 761 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: Sure well the mood in the locker room that's been 762 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: I mean this week, it concerns me on one level 763 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: because I feel like, like I said that earlier, that 764 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl comment, like the postgame locker room felt 765 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: like they just want a playoff game, and it's like 766 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: you're still two and five, Like it's not like lose 767 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: sight of the fact that you still gotta. 768 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 5: I can appreciate might be going to the playoffs, but 769 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 5: I think I think you're but I did. 770 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 8: I know. 771 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: There will still a lot of talk about Bill Belichick. 772 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: But this is where having a coach like Bill Belichick 773 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: is key, because he knows that he knows how to 774 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: temper that locker room. You know, let them have their 775 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: day and night. But back to work on Whenday work. 776 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: Will that be the best thing for this team? 777 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this team might need to feel itself a little bit. 778 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: I think that they might need a continuation of that. 779 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 12: Yeah. 780 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been telling you guys how good you are. 781 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 4: But that's why I think it's good that they have 782 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: a Miami team that will have their full attention. Like 783 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 4: if they had like a Washington team or you know, 784 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 4: a team just nothing against Washington. Is just a team 785 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: that not really usually playing you just usually traditionally sting Washington. 786 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: But don't you think they would. 787 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 5: Lay in it like they might? They might be like, 788 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 5: well we got it now, we got it all figured out, 789 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 5: and then the team I just don't think, you know, 790 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 5: like I don't think when they lose they laid an egg. 791 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 5: That's the difference between me and everybody else in Boston. 792 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 5: Like when the Red Sox lose five in a row, 793 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 5: I don't think they're struggling. I think they're not that good. Well, 794 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 5: they could lose different ways. I mean they could, you know, 795 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 5: I think no, I'd see it. 796 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 4: But they could also just come out and play crappy 797 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: because they kind of took the foot off the gas. 798 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 5: But like I don't know. I just I mean, I 799 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 5: see what you're saying. Of course they could have a 800 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 5: straight up game, and just like I don't I don't 801 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 5: think the Patriots won because Buffalo laid an egg on Sun. No, 802 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: and that's not I'm pretty consistent on both sides of that, right. 803 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: I think the Patriots one because the Patriots played well, no, 804 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 5: you're grasping onto laying an egg and I'm just saying like, no, no, no. 805 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 11: Not you. 806 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: This is what they don't play. 807 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 5: This is like the Royal n not necessarily might do. 808 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, oh, I don't know. 809 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: I just I like the matchup this week because it's 810 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: it's it's an immediate like truth again. It's it's not like, 811 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 4: all right, well now we got to beat the Jets 812 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 4: this week, and that's a whole different thing. 813 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 5: You know, that's a whole different kind of pressure. 814 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 8: Now. 815 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 7: It's like you have a high flying Miami offense now 816 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 7: that you know you haven't beaten to us. 817 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: That's and I like it. It's a team you know, 818 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: you know you have to beat them. It's in your division. 819 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: You lost already to them, you know, if they beat 820 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: Miami all three wins against a f C East Patriots 821 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: run the East. 822 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 9: Remind me of your key from starts. 823 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 5: Right, give you the whole, the whole poem. Oh gosh. 824 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 7: It was like get a score and a stop and 825 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 7: see if we can something. 826 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: I got it. 827 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 9: I thought about it like after the came key. 828 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 5: It was literally start with a stop and a score 829 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: to see if we can pick ourselves up off the floor. 830 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 9: Rhythm, and of course it was his guy. I got 831 00:35:59,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 9: the stop. 832 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 7: I will, I will Hardy, you know, Hardy hard to 833 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 7: come around. 834 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: You got to come around on Jabriel Paul. 835 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 5: Oh, he's played well. 836 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: The guy's playing out of his mind. 837 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 1: He's making play. 838 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 5: I think he's played well all year. I bust his Yeah, 839 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 5: you know what. I think he's a chippy, dirty player. 840 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: You know that's different dirty. I think Rodney Harrison was, 841 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 5: and he's my favorite guys chippy and dirty. I think 842 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 5: he's dirty. I think the NFL would agree based on 843 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 5: his wallet. 844 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 4: We were we were talking about Pepper's on PFF because 845 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 4: I was like, they didn't give him a mist tackle 846 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 4: on that on that touchdown, and. 847 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 5: So I was talking to and I'm like, he's good, 848 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 5: Why would we do that? 849 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: And so I haven't explained it to me, like, you know, 850 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: the pff math of at all of why they don't 851 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 4: credit that as a miss tackle, But it was just 852 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 4: one of those funny ones where and I said in 853 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 4: the post game, like, you gotta be honest. 854 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 5: But I think he's a little boom playing. 855 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: But for the whole year, I think it's the energy 856 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: he brings and the fact that you know in that 857 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: post game video, like how often do you see somebody 858 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 4: kind of hijacket for a second and and insert their 859 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: two cents before you know, Slater takes over to do 860 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 4: the thing. 861 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I yeah, So they can talk about 862 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: that conspiracy, but I just think that the postgame energy, 863 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: Like my my whole thing was I don't know if 864 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 3: it comes down to the head coach, like, but that 865 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 3: a team that doesn't believe in their quarterback and head 866 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: coach anymore, that doesn't win that game, right, like a 867 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: team that's completely let go of faith of the whole thing. 868 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if they win that game. 869 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 5: That's a point. 870 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: And I think most importantly just watching was it. Evan 871 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: Washbourne like tried to interview Mac and it took him 872 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 3: like twenty minutes because every single player on the Patriots 873 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: was coming up to Mac after the game to dap 874 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: him up, Like every single. 875 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 5: Guy, I think they felt for him. 876 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that Dad tells you a 877 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 3: locker room that knows he's taken a lot of heat, 878 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 3: like from people like us especially, and and is behind him, 879 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: you know. And I know know some of those guys 880 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 3: are really close with him off the field too, and 881 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: I think that they care about it. 882 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 5: But I never I never really questioned effort and I 883 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 5: still don't know. Now I do wonder a little bit 884 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 5: about belief, but but this is a win for one 885 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 5: for one day. For one day, they had belief. When 886 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 5: you when you've done it, it's like the Parcels thing, 887 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 5: it's like demonstrated ability. So now you've done it, you 888 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 5: don't have to say if we can just do this, 889 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 5: you point to something, your point, Well, we did that 890 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 5: against Buffalo. We won the fourth QT. You know, we 891 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 5: had two fourth quarter touchdown drives against Buffalo. That's so 892 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 5: we did it. There's no need to wonder if they 893 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 5: can do it. They've done it. 894 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: And you know, for some of these younger guys like 895 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: City Soo and to Mario Douglas and you know, is 896 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: it so or so. So you know, hey, I can 897 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: do this. 898 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 13: I have a role here. 899 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm contributing to wins. 900 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 11: You know. 901 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: That's that's great stuff. 902 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 7: I think to like not to like winning a game 903 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 7: at home, like you know, they have one game at 904 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 7: home this year. 905 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 4: That's just something that you know, you you experience the 906 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 4: fans and the energy from the fans, and I mean 907 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 4: it was just a I mean, going even back to 908 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame induction, it was just it was 909 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 4: a really good Patriots weekend. I feel like, and you know, 910 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 4: everyone's making fun of me about the good vibes from 911 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, so but you know, it's just 912 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 4: it was a good weekend to be a Patriots fan 913 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 4: for the first time that. 914 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 9: Felt like this was this is like the first time 915 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 9: in a long time that I haven't seen fans leave 916 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 9: at halftime. 917 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: And don't come back like everyone stayed to Yeah. 918 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this was the featured game in Germany, you know, 919 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: so it was good for our German fans. You know, 920 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: that was big. 921 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 11: That was big. 922 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 5: That was where the belief came from. That's right, the 923 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 5: featured game. 924 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 3: They knew Germany was watching for Deutsch. 925 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 5: Lenn the Father end. 926 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: So good stuff. 927 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 3: I'm back in. They pulled me back in just just 928 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: like that, Just write that. 929 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 5: I just enjoyed Sunday. 930 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: You saw them, you know again, the play calling they executed, 931 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: what the play calls were, You saw some potential and players. 932 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: So why not get excited? 933 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 5: You know, I'm with you. 934 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: Why not? 935 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 936 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: What's worst case? They go down to Miami and get 937 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: their doors blown off and we're back to where we were. 938 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 3: Just we've trashed them every single week on this show 939 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: and totally rightfully so, so I'm coming in here and 940 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: I'm telling you they played well. They had a good 941 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 3: game plan. The offensive coordinator made his paycheck or whatever 942 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 3: that saying is. You know, like they got their money's 943 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: worth of Bill O'Brien, and the quarterback didn't lose you 944 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 3: the game, and then he wanted for you a d. 945 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 5: And he was largely responsible for you winning. 946 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 14: Yeah. 947 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, and it was Bill's three hundredth career. 948 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: Good stuff. 949 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: Did you see what Dig said after the game? He 950 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 5: wants out? 951 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 7: No, he said nothing, because he just tucks his tail 952 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 7: and runs. 953 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something he's on. He's on my radar. Like 954 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: that relationship between him and Josh Allen is on my 955 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 3: unhappy well when you miss him for touchdowns like multiple times, 956 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: I can understand why. 957 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 5: I mean, but he's unhappy. 958 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and bigger reasons, I kid, But and he's a 959 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 4: he's a really good player. Like just that that double 960 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 4: move we kind of saw coming from above. 961 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: Double move. 962 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 5: Don't drop the ball to thirty yardline. You're throwing a 963 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: regular passing to the end zone at the end. 964 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did, true, he had that ball. 965 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 3: It was a tougher catch than it looked like. 966 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 5: I didn't think. 967 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: But that's why he's great. 968 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 5: Supposed to make, supposed to make that. 969 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Five. 970 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 5: I gotta give Dawson Knox a little bit of slack too. 971 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 5: Evidently he's surgery on his wrist. Maybe that's why playing 972 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 5: with a broken arm, he's playing the long game. Yeah, 973 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 5: I mean, I gotta yeah, I gotta call space. That's 974 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 5: maybe extenuating circumstances there. 975 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: Eight five five PATS five hundred is the a stick 976 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: and hotline web radio at patries dot com. Is the 977 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: email address? All right? Should we turn it to the listeners? Sure? 978 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 5: All right, we'll open it up positivity right. 979 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 1: Eric is in New Jersey. 980 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 13: What's up, Eric, I'm sorry. 981 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 15: I mean, I gotta Paul, I thank you for being 982 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 15: the voice of reasons, you know, two and five team. 983 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 15: You know, you gotta be happy for Mac. You know, 984 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 15: I don't think he's a long term answer. And I 985 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 15: just think you saw it last night herk cousin. I 986 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 15: think that's you know, if he plays at the pinnacle 987 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 15: of his game. I just don't think that that's sustainable 988 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 15: with this roster and where he's at. 989 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 14: I mean, do you think this win, now that. 990 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 15: You know the team's kind of rejuvenated, you know, does 991 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 15: to stop this team from you know, you know, trading 992 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 15: off an asset to you know, game one for next year. 993 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 15: What's your thoughts on that? 994 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Okay, assuming that they ever would, it's a good question. 995 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 5: I don't think that there's just. 996 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: Change anything for the trading, you know, the trade deadline out. 997 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 5: There, Like I don't think that they were in that 998 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 5: market anyway, But if they were, do you think it 999 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 5: should change it? I feel the same like if I 1000 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 5: if I had a plan to trade like it depends 1001 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 5: born at the deadline, winning that game wouldn't change my mind. 1002 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 5: But I don't think they have a plan to change 1003 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 5: line again. One week from today, So. 1004 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: One week from today, So after the Miami game, if 1005 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,479 Speaker 1: they win the Miami game and they trade, that would 1006 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: be deflating. 1007 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 5: If they beat Miami, are they buyers? 1008 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 14: No? 1009 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: No, no, I wouldn't do that either. But like, imagine 1010 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: winning the game and then assuming you win, boy probably 1011 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: had a good game. 1012 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 5: And I would agree with you, like that would be 1013 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 5: a bad look if they won the game, and you 1014 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 5: could be like me, like the wet blanket and say, 1015 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 5: well that just three and five. But if you beat 1016 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 5: Buffalo in Miami and then you come out of that 1017 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 5: and you trade like quality. 1018 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: Pieces, that that's deflating. 1019 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 5: That's bad. 1020 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. 1021 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 5: I don't think there's any chance of that happening, but 1022 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 5: that would be bad. 1023 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 3: I never thought that there was any chance of them 1024 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: this whole like sell sell, sell, like sell what they 1025 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,959 Speaker 3: don't like, what you don't have anything, Like you're gonna 1026 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 3: trade Josh for a fourth round pick, Like is that really? 1027 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 5: Like what is that worth it? 1028 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 3: If he plays well in the second half of the season, 1029 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 3: you're gonna get a third round compick for him if 1030 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 3: he signs a big deal in free agencies, So what 1031 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 3: are you trading him for? Like piling day three picks right, 1032 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 3: Like what that that whole like the Patriots should be 1033 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 3: you know, for sale sign fire, Like what do you say, 1034 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 3: Like I I just every especially because all your assets 1035 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 3: are probably at the lowest value of this they're ever 1036 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 3: gonna be Like I maybe if you can convince but 1037 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 3: like if you could, you could have convinced me if 1038 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: like somebody was playing really like if was having a 1039 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 3: good first half, but he's on a contract year and 1040 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 3: they're one and six, Like, okay, fine, Like if you 1041 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 3: don't see him in there in the future, but every 1042 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 3: single time a guy plays well, like you know, Christian Barmore, now, 1043 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 3: oh he's a good trade ass Like do you want 1044 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 3: them to have any good players in twenty twenty four? 1045 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 5: He's got another year. He's not answering the last year 1046 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 5: of his deal. 1047 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 3: You know, he's got one more year. 1048 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 5: You could get a year and a half of really 1049 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 5: quality play out of him, and then you know, see 1050 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 5: if you can we just. 1051 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 3: I've gotten so many of you know, these calls, these 1052 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 3: questions of like what could the you know, could they 1053 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 3: be sellers? 1054 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 5: What could they sell? 1055 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 3: It's not baseball, Like you can't just start problem. 1056 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 5: The problem with people that are asking those questions, and 1057 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 5: I would ask the questions too, But I think that 1058 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 5: they think, well, you can trade Kendrick Born for a 1059 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 5: second round pick because Muhammad to New came for a 1060 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 5: second round pick, do you know what I mean? And 1061 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 5: I don't think when people look at those deals as 1062 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 5: that that was a bad ed. 1063 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: You trade mac in a first round pick for Trey 1064 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: Lance and Deebo Samuel? 1065 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 5: What Lance is not on the little three way little 1066 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 5: three three teams Dallas. 1067 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 3: Now now we're the NBA, we got three team. 1068 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 9: It would have to be what Trey Lance and CD Lamb? 1069 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 5: Yeah click. Now I don't I'm I don't know, I don't. 1070 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: I just somehow want to get Deebo. 1071 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 9: I was going to say. 1072 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 3: All these like you know when you Dugger, Like okay, 1073 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 3: maybe like Kyle Duggar's value could not be any lower. 1074 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 3: He's not had a good start to the season. So 1075 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 3: you're selling low on Kyle Dugger Now, like what why 1076 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: to what point should. 1077 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 5: Buy low on Kyle Dugger now because this is the 1078 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 5: chance to get him. What did Kevin Bayer get It 1079 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 5: was like a fifth and sixth yeah, yeah, right, And 1080 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 5: and there was a player of a backup safety. I'm sorry, 1081 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 5: I know he went to I didn't mean to be 1082 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 5: disrespectful anyway, not credit, But Kevin Byron is an outstanding 1083 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 5: player and that's what you got. Like so that that, 1084 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 5: I think that a lot of people. And again I'm 1085 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 5: not blaming anybody, because all it takes is one team 1086 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 5: to give you too much. But I just think most 1087 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 5: of the guys that we're talking about. His possibilities to 1088 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 5: be traded are going to get you a Day three pick, 1089 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 5: and in some cases moving up in the in Day three, 1090 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 5: like moving from the sixth to the fifth round, right 1091 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 5: or the seventh to the sixth round. I don't think 1092 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 5: there's a lot of value. 1093 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 9: What would you give up for Diggs? 1094 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 16: Fred I worry. 1095 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 5: About say that, I worry about him. 1096 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 3: Good player, I mean he wants to go. 1097 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's I'm telling you, it's amazing Buffalo anti 1098 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 5: talent bias in this town because the Patriots one with 1099 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 5: guys like Edelman and Welker and you know, Troy Brown. Like, 1100 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 5: it's amazing said you. 1101 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: Want because I like Debo's attitude better and I think 1102 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: I think Debo to me, he's just a good football player, 1103 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, like Diggs is a great receiver. 1104 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 5: I love Debo, but he's bitching all the time. 1105 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 3: No, he He's also not better than Stefan that as. 1106 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: A receiver, but I think he's a better football. 1107 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 5: You can run the line more. 1108 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 11: That's great. 1109 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 5: That's why Fred loves that. Fred loves Bill because that's 1110 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 5: what Bill is all about. Like, oh, can he play 1111 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 5: on fourth down? Like I just he's physical, man. We 1112 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 5: can line him up and run running. Why don't I 1113 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 5: just let my running back do that? 1114 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: I just love me some Deebo Samuel. 1115 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 10: He's a good player, but he's a great player. I 1116 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 10: love watching him play, but he's not as good as Digs. 1117 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't know Tim's and Stowe. Hey Tim, Hey, Hey, Hey. 1118 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 17: I called hcause I actually had a story that you 1119 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 17: guys might be interesting. I was in San Diego in 1120 00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 17: January and I was golfing with a guy and he 1121 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 17: was an NFL scout. Yeah, and there we were talking 1122 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 17: about quarterbacks and I told him, you know, I'm from Massachusetts, 1123 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 17: I'm a big Patriots fan. What do you think about 1124 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 17: Mac Jones? And he basically said, you know, four of 1125 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 17: the five quarterbacks in that draft were overdrafted, and it 1126 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 17: turns out that he was right, and he said, you know, 1127 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 17: every year you overdraft quarterbacks, you see teams overdraft quarterbacks, 1128 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 17: and he said, if you're lucky to hit on one 1129 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 17: that can just play in the NFL, you should ride 1130 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 17: it out and build around him, because it's much easier 1131 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 17: to scout a lineman, much easier scout receivers and really 1132 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 17: hit on that sort of blue chip talent. And that 1133 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 17: really suck with me because it was just seems accurate 1134 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 17: just watching this year play out and watching all these 1135 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 17: first round quarterbacks that have been drafted, you know, have 1136 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 17: all the talent in the world, but just don't work 1137 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 17: out in the NFL. So I think, you know, I'm kind. 1138 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 5: Of again tomorrow move on from mac thing. 1139 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1140 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 17: And the other thing I was thinking is, you know, 1141 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 17: what's the likelihood that we can find a way to 1142 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 17: resign Trent and and Mike on? 1143 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 5: Oh god, if they if they resigned Trent Brown, I'm 1144 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 5: out again. Fred. I'm telling you, I'm going Richard Seymour on. 1145 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 5: You for real. 1146 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: Got to get somebody there, though. 1147 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody that that I can rely on to play 1148 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 5: every snap of you know, the games. 1149 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 3: You don't want the top ten tackle. 1150 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 4: All you guys all right, thanks to So it was 1151 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 4: Tim's point, like, hold on to Mac what he was 1152 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 4: going to ride it out? 1153 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm confused as because the the scout told him 1154 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 5: he was overdrafted, but then but then said, if you 1155 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 5: find someone who can just play. But but I'm thinking 1156 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 5: that the scout doesn't think they found someone who can 1157 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 5: just play. Yeah, based on the based on. 1158 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 3: Theore he came back against Balot, that was obviously before that. 1159 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 4: But it's it's still generally where I am like, you know, 1160 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 4: it's I mean, of course it's a game changer if 1161 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 4: you're in the top couple picks. But I still think 1162 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 4: I can see a scenario where Mac is back next 1163 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 4: year and they make some more wife around. 1164 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 5: More often more likely than not, Mac is back next 1165 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 5: year because I just don't think that they're going to 1166 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 5: go hog wild into the draft again. And listen, most 1167 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 5: of the good quarterbacks in the NFL, we're taking it 1168 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 5: with top ten picks. I know everybody thinks that they're 1169 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 5: all busts, but if you want to get a really 1170 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 5: good quarterback, that's where you have to get it. There's 1171 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 5: a couple of Dak Prescott's and Russell Wilson's around, but 1172 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 5: there aren't many. Most of the really good quarterbacks in 1173 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 5: the NFL were top ten picks, so you can just 1174 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 5: not take one. 1175 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: But I guess That's where. 1176 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 4: I'm at though, is like you know you, I mean, 1177 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 4: do you just pinch your nose and hope that because 1178 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 4: you're in the top ten and you might not you're 1179 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 4: not love the guy, like you know, you love the 1180 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 4: top two guys, but in your stock, I. 1181 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 5: Hope, but I hope I can get one, That's all, 1182 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 5: Like I don't want to. I think that the scout 1183 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 5: was probably right about the over draft, Like I think 1184 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 5: it started right at the top with Zach Wilson, I 1185 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 5: mean number two. With Zach Wilson, he. 1186 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 3: Was definitely over you know. But to say Trevor Lawrence 1187 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 3: and Justin Fields were overdrafted, I think is well. 1188 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,760 Speaker 5: I think that Trevor Lawrence is the one he was saying. 1189 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 3: Wasn't right for but he but so then he included 1190 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 3: Justin Fields. 1191 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think he believe that. I think Justin 1192 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 5: Fields can play. I think, you know, like I think 1193 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 5: there's some talent like the two guys that are playing 1194 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 5: right now in in Stroud, in in Bryce Young Stroud 1195 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 5: especially obviously, but I think I think Bryce Young has 1196 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 5: shown flashes of really good ability and he's on a 1197 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 5: bad team and it's tough, and I get why that, 1198 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 5: you know, he can't you know the word again, sustain 1199 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 5: it for sixty minutes, but he's shown flashes of being 1200 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 5: able to play. 1201 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that I'm I am back in 1202 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 3: on this season and being competitive, but the jury is 1203 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 3: still out on the long term future of the team. 1204 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,919 Speaker 3: And that's head coach included, Like I'm still not I'm 1205 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 3: not just sitting here saying that, like now all of 1206 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 3: a sudden, like we build around Mac and Bill is 1207 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 3: back and like, let's just no, I mean, they still 1208 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 3: have a lot of issues and Max still needs to 1209 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 3: do it again and again and again before I'm like 1210 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 3: all right, you know, he's the quarterback of the future 1211 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 3: in the franchise QB. So it's one game where I 1212 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 3: can say, all right, that was probably close to their best, 1213 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 3: but I think that they're actually were mistakes made along 1214 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 3: the way that they could be even better than that 1215 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 3: in certain areas, but in general, like that doesn't change 1216 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 3: the long term outlook of the team to me, at 1217 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 3: least all right. 1218 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: We got a lot of calls, a lot of emails 1219 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: to get to, but Paul needs time to eat, so 1220 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: we'll be right back after that. 1221 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 6: Get in on the action with DraftKings, the official daily 1222 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 6: fantasy partner of the New England Patriots. 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Quinn and hold the cheer, Patriots fully upset. 1238 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 16: Maybe that catch you. 1239 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 13: Going telling on a deep drop looking at stas shop 1240 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 13: fires or recoversons there. 1241 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 16: Keep kind of fun of the receiver. 1242 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 12: And as the Patriots want to take away and they 1243 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 12: fall from the twenty five. 1244 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 16: That's a big one right there. I said, it's gonna 1245 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 16: be the Safeties today. 1246 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 19: With thirst rotations versus Josh Allen. They gotta stay fresh, 1247 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 19: play them all. Hell of a read by Peppers paided 1248 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 19: him into the pick. 1249 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 13: Seventh interception for Allen this season, the fifth career in 1250 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 13: theft for Jabril Peppers. He drops any lay fas he 1251 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 13: stands in, he throws. 1252 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 16: Down, I'm darving call. 1253 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 13: Honey, I got the left. 1254 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 11: Looks at the call in the numbers. 1255 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 13: He makes the grab of the ten with. 1256 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 11: The fluck on the play, he got it. 1257 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 19: Ma's complaining here, so I guess some extracurricular activity after 1258 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 19: the whistle with Max back in the pocket, but he 1259 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 19: hates been there and hits s Douglas on the little 1260 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,479 Speaker 19: of the little drag route. 1261 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 16: They tugged his shoulder. Good calls from the back judge, so. 1262 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 11: They got the penalty. 1263 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 16: I'm gonna decline it. 1264 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 13: Take the game Mac with again, Elliott corns up the 1265 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 13: middle ten. 1266 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 12: He cour screens is way into the episode, touchdown Patrins. 1267 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 19: We got a ten point laid and fox pro lot 1268 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 19: of time that's happened, gets your defensive arrival. The Buffalo Bills, 1269 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 19: who are now the hunted, they have been the hunter. 1270 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 11: Then it's Murray in the slot live with Kim Camp. 1271 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 13: We're gonna get tight end in the right slot. Julieceivers 1272 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 13: tight end. Davis and Dick s got do staph m 1273 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,760 Speaker 13: Allen three man watch. He stands and he's pressure. 1274 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 11: He steps that. 1275 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,959 Speaker 13: He throws it to the nzun wide offen. 1276 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 11: Nobody got the tight end. 1277 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 13: Dawson Knox touchdown, Buffalow. 1278 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, come up. 1279 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 16: Full deployment right there, total spread. 1280 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 1: We've got a pumpy though. 1281 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 16: Where is a flag? Offensive and appearance. 1282 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 13: It's a good picking driving Douglas Jack Pedley does the 1283 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 13: thirty just inside the number. He starts left him and 1284 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 13: he slips on Jetty. Why he's trying to circle the 1285 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 13: outside chat. 1286 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 12: Buddy Johnson to the THTI forty five ten teams tired 1287 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 12: and the buffluck arn. 1288 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 13: Dorety because Tyler Johnson eventually talked to Maurial tuglas Ut 1289 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 13: before the rookie returns it to the Buffalo forty five. 1290 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 19: This kid is making some place. Babe Pourian offense makes 1291 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 19: one year. The kicking game almost up kicks the covered here. 1292 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 19: It's a hell of a fun makes two guys. Mess 1293 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 19: gets to the right boundary and we're in plus. 1294 00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 8: On in. 1295 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 11: Motion into the back of all. It takes the step. 1296 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 11: He fakes a whack. Keep up the middle hat in 1297 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 11: golf Christian Barmore with Sam Roberts and the. 1298 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 13: Wives, eventually assisting, that's big. 1299 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,959 Speaker 1: That a huge. 1300 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 16: Good coach by Marmore. Finally in the middle here. 1301 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 11: The motion into the back can all it takes the step, 1302 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 11: He fakes a black keeps up the middle hat in 1303 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,760 Speaker 11: Golf Christian Barmore. 1304 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 13: With Sam Roberts and the wives, eventually assisting, that's big. 1305 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 5: That is huge, good coach by Barmore. 1306 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 16: Finally in the middle, hire me down. 1307 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 13: Mart Way's on the staf He has his way to 1308 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 13: the right leg kick lit into the upright can. 1309 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 3: No good? 1310 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 19: All right, you got three timeouts one fifty one. You 1311 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 19: get the ball where the kickless myths come. Don't forget 1312 00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 19: about that. 1313 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 11: My vision for the back up for allan a days 1314 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 11: to step drops back, He pumps. 1315 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 13: He looks nucky, throws it for open. 1316 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 11: Cocage and he missed it. Too cold to throw for 1317 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 11: the night d sailing one to the Patriots back. 1318 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 13: You hear what, there's a late flve cleek plate for 1319 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 13: the referee drops it at the turf. 1320 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 16: Hell is this call? 1321 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 13: Jack? 1322 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 16: Jack Jones, helmets and helmet. 1323 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 13: Launch Alan and Bellows character he said four thirteen. 1324 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 16: N Look at Bellows. Mister ball's gone and he takes 1325 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 16: two steps. 1326 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 10: And bits of me. 1327 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 16: He do it, especially to that guy. 1328 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 5: He's gonna pump quota backs. 1329 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 13: They're gonna call it a and now he works with 1330 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 13: knots lined up to the left, three receivers to the 1331 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 13: light side, white, third and goal from the height. Alan 1332 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 13: throws it to Cook, cleeks out the five makes the 1333 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 13: kid got fine. Peppers dies to the pylon, cutch down Buffalo. 1334 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 19: So it's hard pread even Cook on his drive and 1335 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 19: extended plays a core tackling out on the Platt left flat. 1336 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: It's a good after by Cup baked a nice touchdown. 1337 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 13: That's a big series where James took only his second 1338 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 13: touchdown reception in his two. 1339 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 11: Years in the NFL. 1340 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: That stop fight. 1341 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 11: Coming down touchdown Patrian. 1342 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 19: And mack Joe's giving it to Poyer right now because 1343 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 19: he got late head of Jones's girl. 1344 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 16: Joe's hung in there, makes the blow. 1345 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 19: He's gotta feel good about this one, but going for two. 1346 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 19: Gotta huddle up here, Mack. Joe settled it down. It's 1347 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 19: a great row come horn in the left cut and 1348 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 19: Joe's gets hit from behind by Poyer. They still makes 1349 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 19: the delivery. Excellent job by Kendrick blows getting it. 1350 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 13: In and now the offense, extending the lead to two. 1351 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 16: Score two tight ends to the right. 1352 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 13: Jones take the sap. He tries to sneak it off 1353 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 13: the left side and he did. 1354 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 11: Not get there. 1355 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 16: I don't understand it that Joe bat off the. 1356 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 13: Left guard goes down practically the line of scrimmage. 1357 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 16: I should have given it to Zeke. 1358 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,439 Speaker 11: Alan taking staff of Foot's coming good hand fire. 1359 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 12: Shoday make a sliding gap with the sex pops doing 1360 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 12: oh my god, print scurries into. 1361 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 11: The end zone. 1362 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 13: Touchdown Buffalo that he went down a slit. 1363 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: He was not futs. 1364 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 16: I want to throw by Allen. He got clolked off 1365 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 16: the blitz off the back side. He didn't see it. 1366 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 13: It is a scoring play, so we will be reviewed. 1367 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 11: Know he got him. 1368 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 3: He's in. 1369 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 13: That is an incredible for a rally of half cleticism 1370 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 13: like Stefan Diggs. 1371 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 16: That's the number one right there, boy, who wow? 1372 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 13: Want a round the sliding here are you wedding using 1373 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 13: his hand to quickly spring to his feet. 1374 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 11: All in the spinerama g rid of the end zone. 1375 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 13: And now with the stat that Jones dropping back fire 1376 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 13: sid in theres I got by Burt Born coming back. 1377 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:54,439 Speaker 14: He loves at the ball. 1378 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 12: He buckles in at the thirties and the Bills have 1379 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 12: it foot following covers head drink horn caught the Pats. 1380 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 12: He turned to me inside and the bass dripped three 1381 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 12: and eventually recovered by Bernards Out. 1382 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 16: George's lawyer, Jordan's lawyer. 1383 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 13: He said, he's up, believable. 1384 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 11: Allan dropping the left foot back, he kicks the staff. 1385 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 13: He leans over the left guard, surging forward, hooking for 1386 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 13: the call. He got it touched down by below. The 1387 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 13: Bills are taking the lead with one fifty three to go. 1388 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 16: Man, they got a look at chew here. 1389 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 13: Steven get out there and Joni takes the stab longed 1390 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 13: to throw letters from Bari Stevensons to the. 1391 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 16: Card, crusting by forty five. Bill. 1392 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 3: He's not going right. 1393 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 11: Summer forty checked out a bass cover. 1394 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 13: No yeah, but he the rips a blog. 1395 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 16: However, they're quoting another of those man tell the build he's. 1396 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 13: Seven yard line's quarterback mat Joe Wi the same official 1397 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 13: with the same call. 1398 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 16: Who is his clown on the left side. 1399 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 19: It's called two consecutive drove killers an eligible town build 1400 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 19: off on one second. 1401 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 11: Throw and again, man, there's no way secretion. 1402 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 13: All it in the plink of an eye. 1403 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 16: That's what I'm saying. The balls out. The ball was 1404 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 16: out on the pire. 1405 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 11: One and Darian Loan involve me. 1406 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 13: Three officials conclude, here's the ball the fleet Laman, So 1407 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 13: they may wave it off. 1408 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 19: You're better they're gonna wave it all his house of 1409 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 19: play down here Belichick is losing it. He is losing 1410 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 19: it on his clown on the left side, the Blake block. 1411 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 11: For twenty of time. 1412 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 13: They jop this back to Joe next to Rush is coming. 1413 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 13: Joan throws down the. 1414 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 12: Clock guy Henry at the twenty five. 1415 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: Just before Matt Jones took a shot. 1416 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 11: He threw to the tight end Henry to make Crab 1417 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 11: on the fire hatch at the. 1418 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 13: Twenty five with a hit by Taylor raund Jones handed 1419 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 13: listened to his wife closing, and I got it. He 1420 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 13: touched down. 1421 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 16: I was gonna hatred. There he is, Mike is sicky 1422 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 16: off the side. 1423 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 19: Of a pill carton catching the day w winter on 1424 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 19: a'll look in from Jones to the right slot and 1425 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 19: it is the drive that Mac Jones has needed. And 1426 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 19: there it is on the twenty fifth completion of the game, 1427 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 19: touchdown to MICASICKI up and look it. That's a hell 1428 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 19: of a job personnel wise, Billy O'Brien changing it up 1429 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 19: and the ball put in the perfect spot. Mismatch likewise, 1430 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 19: that's what Micasiki should be doing. 1431 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 13: Allen takes a snap, nobody runs Josh, Allen's old right, 1432 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 13: who's burst up? 1433 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 11: He's cast the liner tripping. 1434 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 20: Allan's gonna drop content that even and Premden school of 1435 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 20: slides and comber up and the Patriots can celebrate your 1436 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 20: first winning all the year and upset a Buffalo by. 1437 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 13: A twenty nine twenty five finals. 1438 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 19: You got life, baby now all of a sudden the 1439 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 19: two and five and look at the excitement by Mac. 1440 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,919 Speaker 16: Jones, And boy does he deserve this one. 1441 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 13: I've been hearing it. 1442 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 16: He's MC getnet. 1443 01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 19: The head coach has a day were Buffalo said it 1444 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 19: probably thought they're gonna have an easy time with you. 1445 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 16: Patriots fully upset. Maybe that gets you going. Maybe this 1446 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 16: gets you going? 1447 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: All right? 1448 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 9: You know what. 1449 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Bridgestone is the official tire of the New England Patriots 1450 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and proud partner with Sullimon Tire, New England's headquarters for 1451 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: quality Bridgestone Tires. Visit Sullivantire dot com to find a 1452 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: location near you. Okay, we're back here. Eight five five 1453 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: past five hundred. Is the ACE Ticket Hotline web radio 1454 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. It's the email address. It's deuced Tamara, Evan, Paul, myself, 1455 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Matt and the booth were we're coveling over this win. 1456 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. 1457 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: We're having a good time. 1458 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 5: We're having good time. 1459 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: We're full of happiness. 1460 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, now we must do that then some joy. 1461 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So now we listen to our listeners and what 1462 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: they have to say. We'll continue with that on the 1463 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: ACE Ticket Houtline. Alex is in Charlotte, what's up, Alex, 1464 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Alex Oh? Hold over from The Hardy Show. Andrews in Boston, 1465 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: what's up? Andrew? 1466 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 14: Hey? Gang. 1467 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 15: How's you going? Can you hear me? 1468 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 11: Yeah? 1469 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 14: Okay. So, so I've been living in New York the 1470 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 14: past two years. I've been Boston for nine before that, 1471 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 14: and I'm here for the weekend for my brother's birthday. 1472 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 14: I surprised him with tickets to the game over the 1473 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 14: weekend and could not have been a better game to 1474 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 14: come back to, for sure. Honestly, I was more ecstatic 1475 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 14: after that than you know, the last Super Bowl that 1476 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 14: that we actually won, which is pretty crazy. I don't yeah, 1477 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 14: the game and whatnot. The previous game I've been to 1478 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 14: was for my brother's birthday last year, the Bears game, 1479 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 14: which was complete polar opposite of what this last one was. 1480 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 14: And you know, after the Bears game last year, my 1481 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 14: years were glued to sports radio. It's probably the first 1482 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 14: time I really listened to sports radio in that and 1483 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 14: PU has definitely turned into, you know, my my favorite 1484 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 14: out of all the ones that I've run through. And 1485 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 14: a sports fan in New York, you know, being a 1486 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 14: past fan in New York hasn't been easy staying connected 1487 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 14: with everything, and you guys have been doing an incredible 1488 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 14: job keeping me grounded, and you know, I've never felt 1489 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 14: more of a past fan since since moving and being 1490 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 14: able to come back and hear you guys talking about 1491 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 14: the game and being at it as well too, and uh, 1492 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 14: you know, I've never been been prouder as a fan 1493 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 14: given how the season's gone. And I really appreciate what 1494 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 14: you guys are doing. 1495 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Andrew, appreciate it. 1496 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 5: I don't know, we don't get a lot of better stretch. 1497 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 5: You know, you had mentioned that the players, although in fairness, 1498 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 5: most of those players weren't part of that last Yeah. 1499 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if Matthew Slater necessarily felt the same way, but. 1500 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. I hate Todd. 1501 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 21: Hey, guys, I really like the Evans follow up of 1502 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 21: the evaluation of the team and how he thought this 1503 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 21: is what they thought they were doing or what they 1504 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 21: were going to get from their offense early, and you know, 1505 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 21: it just took a while for it to evolve. My 1506 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 21: question is, what do you think their record would be 1507 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 21: if their offense was, you know, doing was playing at 1508 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 21: this level to start out with? And why did it 1509 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 21: take it longer to evolve to this stage than that 1510 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 21: they thought? Like, what was the mistake they made evaluating 1511 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 21: the offense? Saying, hey, you know this Elfant should be 1512 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 21: about at this level at this time and go through there. 1513 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 21: Thanks guys, I really appreciate it, and you do find up. 1514 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 3: I don't think that my whole point was that they 1515 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 3: knew it was always going to take a little bit 1516 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 3: like I don't think that they thought they were going 1517 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 3: to come out week one against Philly like Gangbusters. I 1518 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 3: think they probably played better Week one against Philly than 1519 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 3: they maybe thought they would, like honestly on offense, so 1520 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 3: in terms of like what obviously the health and the 1521 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 3: changes on the offensive line where we're huge in this game, 1522 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 3: and that that was something that you can really point 1523 01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 3: to that this change like significantly. But in terms of 1524 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 3: scheme and like evolution of the offense, I think that 1525 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 3: that's the whole point is that they were It didn't 1526 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 3: make mistakes early on in the year. It just was 1527 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 3: all It just took time. It took time for O'Brien 1528 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 3: to get it up and running. 1529 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 5: What do you think the record would have been told, Yeah, 1530 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 5: I wanted you feel that I wanted you a trip 1531 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 5: to Fantasy Inland to go first. I'll say four and 1532 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 5: three that's what I was gonna say. I think they 1533 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 5: would have beaten Philadelphia, and I think they would have 1534 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 5: beaten Las Vegas. Yeah, four and three, definitely Vegas. Give 1535 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 5: him the Vegas one. Vegas is going to be. I 1536 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 5: think the Chicago game in last year, where you're like, 1537 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 5: how do we lose that game? I mean, I know 1538 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 5: they were on the road. 1539 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 4: Maybe not entirely the same because Chicago was epically terrible, 1540 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 4: but the result of last week's Raiders game, it was like, man, 1541 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 4: they let one get away. 1542 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 5: But that's like strict just total speculation, Dan. 1543 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 8: I also think they made the Saints look way better 1544 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 8: than what they are too. I think, you know, obviously 1545 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 8: you can't play though, like what if they didn't turn 1546 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 8: the ball over so many times, maybe maybe the Saints 1547 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 8: wouldn't have had so many points. 1548 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 9: But the Saints were not as good as what the 1549 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 9: scoreboard looks. 1550 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Is it true that in the Saints game that defense 1551 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: went into the game ranked tenth and came out ranked eighth? 1552 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know. The Patriots defense, Yeah. 1553 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 1: That's what somebody from RPR staff told me. 1554 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 5: It doesn't sound right, But I don't know, like ranked. 1555 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Him what ye overall defense? How they do it? 1556 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think that's years ago. 1557 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 3: Bill still does that, Oh we were for nineth at yards. 1558 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 5: His disdain for the greatest coaches ever lived is really. 1559 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 3: Now just old admirable, just old archaic, old archaic stats. 1560 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: Defensive stats never made sense the way they ranked defenses. 1561 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 5: You know, it was no but like, I don't care 1562 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 5: what they were Like this is where I was sort 1563 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 5: of going Evan's side, Like, I don't care what they 1564 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 5: were ranked. They didn't play well defensively against the Saints. 1565 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 5: They didn't. I know, they didn't give up most of 1566 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 5: the points. I know the offense was responsible for a 1567 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 5: big chunk of those points. When they played defense that day. 1568 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 5: They didn't play very well and they didn't give up 1569 01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 5: a lot of yards that day, So they maybe moved 1570 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 5: up because the other team didn't have that many yards 1571 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 5: to go to get touchdowns. But they got touchdowns, you 1572 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like they scored thirty four points. 1573 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 5: I don't know, like I think you could make stats 1574 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 5: say kind of whatever. 1575 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:13,680 Speaker 3: You take care of. 1576 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Trod and Vermont, fine, I'll do it. GM Bill credit 1577 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: for a personal decision. Bringing J. C. Jackson back was 1578 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 1: a good move, and he's been much better than I 1579 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: thought with the injuries. To jud And and Gonzalez. The 1580 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 1: fact that they can still kind of cover and rush 1581 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 1: the passer is really encouraging. Also, Barmore and Peppers are 1582 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,719 Speaker 1: difference makers. Peppers is stepping up as a leader. Really 1583 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: hope they keep it going. 1584 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I mean, that's funny. 1585 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Evan. 1586 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:41,600 Speaker 4: I keep sick in my head with Evan's like, I 1587 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 4: don't know, he just still looks like jac Jackson, Like 1588 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 4: he still just kind of looks like jac Jackson. 1589 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,800 Speaker 7: Takes a couple of plays, he gives up a couple 1590 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 7: of plays. 1591 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 8: You know. 1592 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 5: I really agree with the Peppers part. I do think 1593 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 5: he has stepped up as a leader too. I think 1594 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 5: that's part of the thing. And Barmore we talked about 1595 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 5: at the top of the show, like I love Barmore, 1596 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:58,799 Speaker 5: but that's the I haven't seen. 1597 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 7: That guy, and that's why waiting for right this is 1598 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 7: what we thought we were getting. 1599 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,919 Speaker 5: And he was dominant. 1600 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really good against the Raiders too. And 1601 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 3: I talked to him last week and I was like, 1602 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 3: you know, I film against the Raiders pretty darn good 1603 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 3: and he was like, no, not not good enough. And 1604 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like okay, kind of dominated and 1605 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 3: he was like, uh no, not good enough in the 1606 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,759 Speaker 3: pass rush. You know, didn't didn't think he was impactful 1607 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 3: enough in the past run. I agree, and then this 1608 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 3: week he comes out and he's just this game. Yeah, 1609 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,640 Speaker 3: all right, I guess he was right. I guess there 1610 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 3: was another level. 1611 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 5: And this is where I always got, like I get 1612 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 5: arguments of Fred because when he plays a game like this, 1613 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 5: this is what people told me he did last week, 1614 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 5: and this is what I'm telling no, no, no, no, 1615 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 5: this was dominance. I thought he was like one of 1616 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 5: a small handful of the best players in the field. 1617 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:47,600 Speaker 13: Had to have it. 1618 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:48,599 Speaker 5: I thought he was really big. 1619 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,680 Speaker 4: They need him to continue to play that way if 1620 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 4: they're going to have a real chance of winning some 1621 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 4: more games here and j. 1622 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 3: C ben been okay. Yeah, some of the stats I've 1623 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 3: seen out there about j C and how good he's been, 1624 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 3: watch the film. 1625 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 22: But they need it, okay, Yeah, it was just they 1626 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 22: needed okay and to get an okay guy at this 1627 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 22: point when you look at last year, the injuries struck 1628 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 22: like who they kind of were dunk stuck with there 1629 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 22: at the end, Like you know. 1630 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,599 Speaker 3: He's been fine, No, he's been okay, and they need 1631 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 3: it Okay, I totally agree with that, but there were 1632 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 3: plays on the film that he did not give up 1633 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 3: that he should have given up over the last three weeks. 1634 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 1: Mike writes in did von Miller play? I didn't notice 1635 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 1: him once sign of when you he's a leader? 1636 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 3: I don't think now he's still coming working his way 1637 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:34,600 Speaker 3: back from that. 1638 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: Sign when you you when he's the leader. Jennings and 1639 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: Balmore have both stepped up on d I like what 1640 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 1: I saw after the game in the locker room number 1641 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 1: five stepping up and being a leader. A win this 1642 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 1: week and they have a shot to make the play I'll. 1643 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 5: Tell you, sorry to spoil that narrative. The Anthony Jennings. 1644 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 4: He's getting a new contract here right like that is 1645 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 4: just like I feel like the slam dunk of all 1646 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 4: slam dunks of the Amphony Jens for nothing. 1647 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 5: No no, no, for like what would he make? 1648 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 21: Oh? 1649 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 5: I don't know, but he'll be back. I need to 1650 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 5: know what he's gonna get before I tell you everything. 1651 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think he'd be game, Like, I don't know, 1652 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,679 Speaker 4: this is their kind of guy, you know, he looks 1653 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,320 Speaker 4: just like their kind of guy. He's playing tough like 1654 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 4: he's not nobody really gonnap peel to anybody wants like 1655 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 4: a primary pass rusher. 1656 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 5: But I just think it's gonna be one of those 1657 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 5: middling gun of deals, and. 1658 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 3: I like it. 1659 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 5: I was actually asking non snarkily for a change, because 1660 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 5: I have no idea what kind of a contract a 1661 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 5: player like that would get. My gut instinct with Anthony 1662 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 5: Jennings would be he can't wait to get out of 1663 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 5: here because I got to sit around and be inactive 1664 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 5: while you know, yeah, I don't want to be disrespectful, 1665 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 5: but Evan consistently mentions a person who's always active and 1666 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 5: always has a role in the game, who I've never 1667 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,560 Speaker 5: really seen do anything. Oh and and he's inactive like 1668 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 5: the first couple of weeks. I would think a guy 1669 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 5: like Jennings, if he can get something on the open market, 1670 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 5: would go. Now. If he can't, you might as well 1671 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 5: stay well, you're comfortable and you already know this is 1672 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 5: the guy. He's a guy Mak Wilson. You make fun 1673 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 5: of him all the time. 1674 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 3: Oh god, I have a rant about that second. Yeah, 1675 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,600 Speaker 3: Anthony Jennings agree with every once in a while. And 1676 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 3: so Anthony Jennings, I say this like one hundred percent sincerity. 1677 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 3: Where would they be on the edge without Anthony Jennings 1678 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,599 Speaker 3: right now? Really well, like Judan Keon White all missing 1679 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 3: from this game, and he played extremely well. Like I'm 1680 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 3: not saying he's like an All Pro player now, but 1681 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 3: like he played really well for what your expectations are 1682 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 3: for Anthony Jennings multiple weeks now. He is set the 1683 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,680 Speaker 3: edge of the defense and he's pushed the post. So 1684 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 3: if you're done his. 1685 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 5: Job, couldn't you see him like saying like, yeah, now 1686 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 5: that you had no other options, you'll let me play 1687 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 5: and I can play Like screw, I'm going somewhere else. 1688 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,640 Speaker 4: I mean I could see that, and I mean I 1689 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,679 Speaker 4: kind of relate it. Not totally the same, but Rabel 1690 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,479 Speaker 4: talking about, you know, I was stuck behind two guys. 1691 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 4: I wanted to get a chance to start. 1692 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 7: I wanted to see they were stuck behind guys that 1693 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,559 Speaker 7: were good right right, well, like he. 1694 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 5: Was stuck behind like I even forget I'm gonna mess 1695 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 5: it up now with the timeline. But I mean Greg Lloyd, 1696 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 5: maybe I don't like there was some great outside linebacker 1697 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 5: or yet. I think Joey Porter came later. Maybe Kendroll 1698 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 5: I don't know, but. 1699 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, you're getting the chance now, 1700 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 4: he's finally getting a chance to play. I mean, they 1701 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 4: have nothing else, like Evan said, but he's getting an 1702 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 4: opportunities playing well. 1703 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 5: I think he's played really well and I've had him 1704 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 5: one of he's been one of my early additions to 1705 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 5: the good list in the last two weeks. 1706 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1707 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's made some plays. I agree, he flashes right away. 1708 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 3: He flashes early, which I think this team needed some 1709 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,679 Speaker 3: of that energy coming out of the gate. 1710 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,560 Speaker 5: And he even did it. What was that? What was 1711 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 5: the game? 1712 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,639 Speaker 3: Was it the Raiders game that he had the TfL 1713 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 3: like right off the off the bat, like you know, 1714 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 3: he's done it a few times, like where he's made 1715 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 3: a play early Josh Jacobs like a five year loss. 1716 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, doing that stuff in preseason two, you know, just 1717 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 4: getting around tackles, showing a little bit more shimmy than 1718 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:51,600 Speaker 4: he had. 1719 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 7: I mean, he's a big, long, powerful guy. He's just 1720 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 7: a good fit for their defense. 1721 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I just you know, to the point that 1722 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 4: we always make about injuries happen, use it as an 1723 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,400 Speaker 4: oportunity to place some young guys. 1724 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 5: He's not a young guy. 1725 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 4: At this point, but I still think he's getting an opportunity, 1726 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 4: and it's like, all right, well, you don't have really 1727 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 4: any depth of at edge right now. 1728 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,560 Speaker 5: If he has no options, I think you're right. I 1729 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 5: think he'll end up staying here on a very affordable 1730 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 5: contract just because like why would you leave? And I 1731 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 5: just wonder, disrupt if you don't. 1732 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 3: So ke On White's coming back, right, and you figure 1733 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 3: that he would cut into any future playing time a 1734 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 3: little bit for Jennings. But to Mike's point, like, isn't 1735 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 3: paying Anthony Jennings like a team friendly deal more Patriots 1736 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 3: than overpaying josh U j Right, So like like I 1737 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 3: could see his opportunities increasing here next year because is 1738 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 3: not going to be here anymore. Maybe Keon Whites looked 1739 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,680 Speaker 3: at as a guy that's probably more of like a 1740 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 3: defensive end instead of a true edge guy in the future. 1741 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, you know they're playing together. 1742 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 1: In Berlin, says Breedings from Deutsch, Lynn and sempify. Matt 1743 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: just curious, what was your mos I was three to 1744 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 1: one one in eighty five forty one. You'll have to 1745 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,639 Speaker 1: explain to Fred what that means. 1746 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 5: All of us I don't know what an eighty five 1747 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 5: to forty one is, but I was also no. Three eleven. 1748 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: Okay, three eleven. 1749 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, explain to me like I'm five basic riflemen. Okay, 1750 01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 3: that sounds terrifying. 1751 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: Nice, it's terrifying. Nice. Team win yesterday. Maybe I'm showing 1752 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: my age. But what's the deal with the gritty? And 1753 01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 1: how does one know a good gritty when you see one? 1754 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea what Kasiki means when he says 1755 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: his version after the game when he touched down was 1756 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: the worst ever. Yeah, I'm sure it's fun. But both 1757 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 1: his and match looked the same. 1758 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,719 Speaker 5: Yeah they were both. Those are the white guy gritty. 1759 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 5: Go watch Justin Jefferson do the Yeah, well, pretty much 1760 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,759 Speaker 5: any other point on the NFL where my son Campbell 1761 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 5: he can do it too. 1762 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. As far as the game and the rest 1763 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 1: of our season goes, we might not pile up more wins, 1764 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,720 Speaker 1: but a consistent old line will go a long way 1765 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 1: to playing respectable football and build towards next season. Maybe 1766 01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 1: we don't need to move on from Mac As we 1767 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 1: see he can make plays with pedestrian receivers as long 1768 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 1: as he has time to read the offense. Focus on 1769 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 1: building a solid to elite offensive line through the draft 1770 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 1: as well as a number one wide receiver would certainly 1771 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 1: make the rebuild or whatever. This is a bit easier. 1772 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,760 Speaker 1: If we did not have to start over at the 1773 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 1: quarterback position. We could still finish the season with good 1774 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 1: draft position. We could be in the running for MH junior. 1775 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 5: So you're gonna be picking in the top three, yeah, 1776 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 5: Or but that email was all over the place, Like 1777 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 5: Max showed he can make plays, so stick with him 1778 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:40,600 Speaker 5: and build around him. But they're gonna be like to 1779 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,320 Speaker 5: get Marvin Harrison junior. Like, I don't know how those 1780 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 5: two things equate. 1781 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 7: How can Mac have a good rest of the year 1782 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 7: and they still finish third worst team in the league. 1783 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, I don't know. I think if 1784 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,720 Speaker 5: they play like they did Sunday, they're gonna find a 1785 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 5: way to win too many games to get Marvin Harrison junior. Ops. 1786 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 5: I mean they might have already won the twenty games 1787 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 5: to get him though, right there. 1788 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 13: I like that that. 1789 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 5: It was like there's like twelve teams right now. It 1790 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 5: was an amazing day, Like everybody everybody won except for Arizona. Yeah, 1791 01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 5: it's a it's a log jam. Like the Giants won 1792 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 5: Denver one, Denver one. Denver never wins. 1793 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 3: I think that people we get like a lot of 1794 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,000 Speaker 3: the Marvin Harrison junior stuff, like do people realize that 1795 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 3: he's going to go number two in the draft? Like 1796 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 3: I know, that's why I just said, right, you know, 1797 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 3: like I doesn't watch that game, by the way, which 1798 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 3: one the Michigan game? Now, I mean the Ohio State 1799 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 3: Penn State game. 1800 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,599 Speaker 5: Now, it was one. There was one guy worth watching 1801 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 5: on the field the whole game. 1802 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 1: It was him. 1803 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's incredible. 1804 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 5: He won the game by himself. 1805 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:35,680 Speaker 14: He is. 1806 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 3: The only way he doesn't go number two overall is 1807 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,960 Speaker 3: if two quarterbacks go off, if Caleb Williams and Drake 1808 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 3: Mayboles go one two, but then he's going three. 1809 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 5: So if you have to be wire, probably a trade. 1810 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, and and and when I say there was 1811 01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 5: no other players, I know that a lot of people 1812 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,040 Speaker 5: watch college football. The Penn State's got a good defense, 1813 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 5: they have some good players, a lot of good NFL. 1814 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,800 Speaker 5: They have some good players on both sides of the ball. 1815 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,640 Speaker 5: But Marvin Harrison was just a cut above everybody on 1816 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:01,479 Speaker 5: the field the other day. 1817 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna tea you, Evan, so Ucha didn't play, 1818 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 4: and so they basically just move mac Wilson kind of 1819 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 4: outside of his comfort zone, which is usually I'm not 1820 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,840 Speaker 4: gonna be snarky, usually playing off the ball, so playing 1821 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,680 Speaker 4: kind of off the edge as a pass rusher and 1822 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 4: Evan what did the film say? 1823 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 3: I want to know what their obsession is with mack Wilson, 1824 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 3: Like people like ask me all the time, like what's 1825 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 3: their obsession with Miles Bryant. I get it with Miles Bryant, Like, 1826 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 3: I know he's not the greatest player of all time, 1827 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 3: but I can see why they like him in a 1828 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 3: specific role in their defense. Mac Wilson, to me, makes 1829 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 3: zero impactful plays anytime they put him out there. I 1830 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,719 Speaker 3: just don't understand what the obsession was with this player. 1831 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,839 Speaker 3: And then you look at I think a perfect example 1832 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 3: is the twenty eight yard pass to James Cook, which 1833 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 3: was the one extended play that Josh Allen made in 1834 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 3: the entire game. And mac Wilson is spying Josh Allen 1835 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 3: and he's in a freaking blender. He has no idea 1836 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 3: where he's going, and it's like, why can't Marty mop 1837 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 3: who do this? Like if he's gonna get lost anyways, 1838 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 3: Like then why not let the rookie get lost and 1839 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 3: see what the rookie has? Like why this is when 1840 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 3: people talk about like they want to play the young 1841 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,560 Speaker 3: guys and they don't want Bill to play. There's not 1842 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 3: a whole lot of examples of that because there's just 1843 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 3: not a ton of young guys healthy on the roster right. 1844 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 5: Now next week. 1845 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 3: But one example of it, through and through is why 1846 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 3: Mac Wilson was in the game plan and Marty mop 1847 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,639 Speaker 3: who wasn't. It makes zero sense. And maybe that twenty 1848 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,599 Speaker 3: eight yarder to James Cook doesn't happen. If the spy 1849 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 3: actually can close on the quarterback and disrupt the quarterback 1850 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,640 Speaker 3: from making that throw, it's unbelievable. 1851 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,439 Speaker 5: Fifteen snaps for Wilson, ten for yeah, well maybe that'll 1852 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 5: be the next thing that he takes our advice on 1853 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 5: tackle and pop as a focal point. 1854 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 7: I know you made the whole joke about like you 1855 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 7: know that I just called am Sorry, sorry I ask 1856 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:53,879 Speaker 7: my question. 1857 01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 5: Not Anti, but you know his family named Mario. 1858 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 7: We make these things of like you know, oh, they shouldn' 1859 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:00,760 Speaker 7: listen to us, like we're just the guys in the radio. 1860 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:02,439 Speaker 5: But like Paul, you've. 1861 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 7: Watched for you guys have watched football for like thirty years. 1862 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 7: Like I think that that carries at least a little 1863 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 7: bit of weight. 1864 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,439 Speaker 4: Like I mean, you know, I've watched football and studied 1865 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 4: it closely for I don't know, since like two thousand 1866 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 4: and six, where it is sixteen seventeen years. I mean, 1867 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 4: like we do watch this stuff. Like I don't think 1868 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 4: like you could just take our opinions and just chuck them, 1869 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, like I know we're 1870 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,759 Speaker 4: not at that level of coaches and knowing their schemes 1871 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,559 Speaker 4: and everything that goes on, but it's like we. 1872 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 5: Care, we watch, and like it's just it's frustrating because 1873 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 5: I want him. 1874 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, really, Michael, when us better at right 1875 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 7: tackle than Venerian Low? 1876 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 4: Like I mean maybe they have alternatively, you know, other 1877 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 4: reasons why they're playing guys like that and you know, 1878 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 4: trying to make something happen, But I don't know. 1879 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 5: I just think that I want to bring that watch 1880 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,680 Speaker 5: it a lot. Do you guys all his press come? Yeah? 1881 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 5: All three of you? Okay, did you guys hear him? 1882 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 5: But who response a little bit? What did you guys 1883 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:57,720 Speaker 5: think of the tackle uh reaction. So maybe that's part 1884 01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 5: of the reason why we haven't seen it until now. 1885 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 5: You don't want to do it, yeah, I was. 1886 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 9: Getting the vibe of like, I don't really, I don't 1887 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 9: want to do it. 1888 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:08,560 Speaker 1: I didn't see it. 1889 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,400 Speaker 5: It just seemed kind of lukewarm. I don't think he's 1890 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 5: an ovally talkative guy to begin with. It's pretty pretty quiet, 1891 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 5: laid back. But I got the impression that Tamara did. 1892 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,400 Speaker 5: I thought that reading between the lines, that maybe this 1893 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 5: is something that they've talked about and he kind of 1894 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 5: is blocked at now. The other part of it has been. 1895 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 1: Health, the fact that Bill Bill never says about a player, Yeah, we're. 1896 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 5: Going to talk about well, he said we're going to 1897 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,280 Speaker 5: talk like they asked they're going to keep him there, 1898 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 5: and he said, we're going to talk about it. And 1899 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 5: I actually kind of downplayed that in the post game show. 1900 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 5: But after listening to a win who, I wonder if 1901 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 5: maybe he's to make maybe it is something that they 1902 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 5: have to sort of needs. Would he'd be able to 1903 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,760 Speaker 5: make more money if you pay well, that's what I 1904 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 5: was just going to say. Contract here, you can play 1905 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 5: tackle now like you you got. I wonder if he 1906 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 5: feels like he's not fully healthy and he's going to 1907 01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,599 Speaker 5: get exposed out there, Like I said, heaven stat Okay, 1908 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 5: your your boys would tell me that he again led 1909 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 5: the league in fewest amount of time to throw and 1910 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:16,400 Speaker 5: they were second shortest average airtime for passes hair yards. Yes, heard, Sorry, 1911 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 5: I'm just helping you. I don't mean yeah, okay, But 1912 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 5: as you know, I like to use these things when 1913 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 5: they suit my arguments. So remember that maybe the past 1914 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 5: protection was better than it was with Vederian Low, but 1915 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 5: maybe it wasn't like this be all end all solution either. 1916 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 5: And I do think that a big part of the 1917 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 5: success offensively is you found a way to have success 1918 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 5: right away. So you got up ten nothing instead of 1919 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 5: down ten nothing. And Fred said, maybe they'll be better 1920 01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,639 Speaker 5: equipped in the future if they fall behind. I don't 1921 01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,679 Speaker 5: see That's like, I don't see them being better equipped 1922 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 5: to do it. You know, that's what we got to see. 1923 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 4: And if they go down to Miami and fall behind, 1924 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,799 Speaker 4: you're gonna get right now, right in your face. 1925 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 3: Immediately, you know, Yeah, I mean to your point, Paul, 1926 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,680 Speaker 3: I watched that Miami game back last night from Week 1927 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 3: two and every single time they tried to drop back 1928 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,600 Speaker 3: past he got sacked. It was like every time they 1929 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,479 Speaker 3: tried to dial something up down the field, he got sacked. 1930 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 5: But he couldn't. 1931 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 3: He completed like seventy percent of his throat is just 1932 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 3: throwing you know, five yard passes. But every time they 1933 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 3: tried to load up and throw something down the field, 1934 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 3: or it was you know, third and ten and they 1935 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 3: had to throw it down the field, you know, he 1936 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 3: got sacked. I understand Big MIC's you know, reservations about 1937 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,720 Speaker 3: playing tackle because he's not a tackle, Like he's not 1938 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,839 Speaker 3: built like a tackle. His footwork isn't like a tackle. 1939 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 3: You know, he plays so much better at tackle than 1940 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 3: Vederian Low that it just makes it look like to everybody, 1941 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 3: like why wouldn't you just keep him there forever? Right, 1942 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 3: because he's just so much better than what you have. 1943 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,439 Speaker 3: But he does have a shorter corner because of his 1944 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,760 Speaker 3: foot speed and his footwork than most tackles do. That's 1945 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,639 Speaker 3: not just pick on him and say that he's bad 1946 01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,160 Speaker 3: at it, but he's just he's a natural guard, like 1947 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,679 Speaker 3: he's that's how he's built. 1948 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 5: That's how he you know, he knows himself right and 1949 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 5: he must look at it as I'm going to get 1950 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 5: into free agency without my best tape out there, you know, 1951 01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 5: And yeah it might be one. You know, on paper, 1952 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,200 Speaker 5: it might be lucrative to say, well, this guy can 1953 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,800 Speaker 5: play tackle and guard, but if someone wants to sign 1954 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 5: him as a guard, maybe he's not getting what he 1955 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,680 Speaker 5: should because he didn't play enough of it, you know, 1956 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 5: hit the year heading in and it's yeah, I don't know. 1957 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 5: It might just be as simple as what Emon said. Comfort. Yeah, 1958 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:31,960 Speaker 5: like he doesn't feel his comfort. 1959 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,000 Speaker 4: I just I wonder if if McDermott could still be 1960 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,680 Speaker 4: in the mix on the right side, and maybe if 1961 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,240 Speaker 4: SO is going to push cold Strange into the mix, 1962 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 4: you know, like is that because that's something they could 1963 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:42,720 Speaker 4: do too. 1964 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 5: That could be if you get on when you back 1965 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 5: at right guard. I think I would feel better about 1966 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 5: that because I don't think So is all that good. 1967 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,640 Speaker 5: Oh let's put it this way. He's not ready yet. 1968 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 5: Let me let me put it that way. I'm not 1969 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 5: telling you he's not any good. I think there's some 1970 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,080 Speaker 5: there was some pressure I thought in those gaps on 1971 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,840 Speaker 5: both sides. I thought what strange got walked back into 1972 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 5: the quarterback A couple of times, and I thought, so 1973 01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 5: did too. Now I don't. I don't watch it like 1974 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 5: Evan does, so like, well, maybe the film doesn't know. 1975 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 5: Maybe the film there's some intriguing traits was so. I 1976 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,320 Speaker 5: think the one thing that I would say, though, is 1977 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 5: that he's getting a whole lot of help from David Andrews. 1978 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,080 Speaker 5: Like David Andrews is opening to with his eyes to 1979 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,559 Speaker 5: the right side like nine times out of ten when 1980 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 5: they drop back to pass. So they've done a really 1981 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,840 Speaker 5: good job in the last two weeks of making sure 1982 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 5: that city So is not on the island with any 1983 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 5: sort of elite pass rushers like he had like Tim 1984 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,800 Speaker 5: Settle a couple of times one on one, but that's 1985 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,120 Speaker 5: not we're not talking about. Yeah, like if we're not 1986 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 5: talking about you know, the the Eagles in week one 1987 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:49,599 Speaker 5: putting what's his name Simmons over not Simmons, the rookie 1988 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,600 Speaker 5: that I think Carter Carter, thank you over you know, 1989 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 5: Antonio Maffi and just like making him block them one 1990 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 5: on one or you know, like they've done a nice 1991 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 5: job of protecting him the last couple of weeks. And 1992 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 5: they also have played some interior d lines that aren't 1993 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 5: very good. So I would just it's been better than 1994 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,880 Speaker 5: Mafi was, just because he's handled moving parts a little 1995 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,320 Speaker 5: bit better, like the stunts and the blitzes and stuff 1996 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 5: like that up front have been a little bit cleaner 1997 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 5: with so. But I wouldn't say that it's been he's 1998 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 5: he's been fine. 1999 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,599 Speaker 7: I just have to pray that one of those guys 2000 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 7: works out like one of them like Mafi. 2001 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,760 Speaker 5: I think they'll be I think they'll be fine. Well, 2002 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 5: I think they'll be offensive lineman. Yeah, like if you 2003 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,720 Speaker 5: let a win, you go like, I think one of 2004 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 5: those guys will start like and maybe he won't be 2005 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,720 Speaker 5: as good like I think Mike is pretty good. But 2006 01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,680 Speaker 5: I just think that you can work around that. 2007 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 11: Now. 2008 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,720 Speaker 5: I think Venderian low level and what Calvin Anderson did 2009 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 5: against the Miami in the Miami game the first time, 2010 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,680 Speaker 5: you can't work around that. Yeah, you gotta at least 2011 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 5: get in the way. 2012 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 3: And that's what Mike is, you know, That's what Big 2013 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,800 Speaker 3: Mike did was that he's like at least at that, like, Okay, 2014 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 3: we can get by with this level at tackle. I 2015 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 3: think that he could get better at it in terms 2016 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 3: of the footwork, but I just he's not you know, 2017 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,400 Speaker 3: he's built the way he's built, and he's not like 2018 01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,760 Speaker 3: a long, you know, strider, and that's what tackles need. 2019 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 3: They need to really get a lot of depth out 2020 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 3: of their stances and make guys run the arc will 2021 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:15,560 Speaker 3: wrights in. 2022 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 1: I started the season staying positive, then things soured. Evan 2023 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,719 Speaker 1: told me to embrace the tank and I jumped on board. 2024 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 1: Now they win and I don't know what to do 2025 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,599 Speaker 1: when they suck, I'm upset when they win. I'm upset. 2026 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 1: In all honesty, A part of me was happy when 2027 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 1: Kendrick fumble because I thought I'd get the best of 2028 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,240 Speaker 1: both worlds, a competitive, heart wrenching loss. I find myself 2029 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 1: asking does Bill still have a fastball? Is mac elite? 2030 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Are we trade blocked cellars? Is this a replay of 2031 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and one? Is constant back and forth? Is 2032 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,720 Speaker 1: tearing me apart? Mike? How am I supposed to feel it? 2033 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 5: I'm with him. 2034 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,240 Speaker 4: I have no idea how to feel and that's why 2035 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,439 Speaker 4: I just said, just enjoy this win and look forward 2036 01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 4: to playing Miami this week. 2037 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 5: And that's what I did. I had like I can't 2038 01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 5: remember the last time I had that much fun at 2039 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 5: What does it mean an, my heart was racing the 2040 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 5: whole time, trying to. 2041 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 13: Like t. 2042 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 5: He's talking about his heart racing. I'm like, what's really 2043 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 5: was the team? 2044 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 3: We are adjacent to the team, Paul, Well, you know 2045 01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 3: what it was. 2046 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,400 Speaker 4: Thought was that it was nice to care like because 2047 01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,280 Speaker 4: sometimes you get so mad at them over the course 2048 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 4: of a game, which probably speaks to you know, when 2049 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,760 Speaker 4: you're watching your team and they keep making mistakes and 2050 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,680 Speaker 4: they're doing the same thing over and over again, and 2051 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 4: it's hard to like reconnect with passionately wanting this team 2052 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 4: to win. 2053 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,040 Speaker 5: And then they start to. 2054 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 7: Play well and you're doing things good and you're like, man, 2055 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 7: this the energy in the stadium is great, and like. 2056 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,360 Speaker 4: This is what it's supposed to be like, and you 2057 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 4: know that. I think that's why I just I wanted it. 2058 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:40,600 Speaker 4: I wanted it for them, like I was. 2059 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,640 Speaker 5: I was actually like, obviously, the best thing is the 2060 01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 5: Patriots could have moved the ball and run out the 2061 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 5: clock on offense, but the fumble, and I thought it 2062 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,680 Speaker 5: at the time, if they weren't going to get a 2063 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 5: first down, I'd rather fumble there and give him a 2064 01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 5: short field because I didn't have any faith whatsoever they 2065 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,840 Speaker 5: were going to stop Buffalo, but I had faith that 2066 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 5: they might be able to go down and get a 2067 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 5: field goal at the end. So they had they had 2068 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,479 Speaker 5: a lot of time, they had two minutes, you know, ultimately, 2069 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 5: because the short fields and two time allowed Buffalo to 2070 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 5: score quickly. 2071 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 2072 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 5: So I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, like, if 2073 01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:24,120 Speaker 5: they were going to go, let's if he doesn't fumble, 2074 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:25,160 Speaker 5: it's still third and long. 2075 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,000 Speaker 4: You love those, you love these where it's a weird 2076 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 4: nuance where a mistake actually helps you in a weird 2077 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:30,360 Speaker 4: sort of way. 2078 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to believe me. I'm not trying 2079 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,880 Speaker 5: to say it helped them. No, no, But the better 2080 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,680 Speaker 5: thing would have been if he just got tackled and 2081 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,240 Speaker 5: then they got the first down on the next play. 2082 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,800 Speaker 5: That would have been the much more conventional way to 2083 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 5: win the game. And I think we all would have 2084 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,960 Speaker 5: felt better about it. But I think that the way 2085 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,000 Speaker 5: it worked out, it saved a lot of time. 2086 01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,439 Speaker 1: Being fresdent by the way. I'm driving home after the 2087 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,400 Speaker 1: game and I'm listening to one of the postgame shows 2088 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if on one of Paul stations, and 2089 01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,800 Speaker 1: sure enough, next on the phone speing Fresno, and I 2090 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:01,600 Speaker 1: have to say, I. 2091 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:02,920 Speaker 5: Feel a little cheated on you. 2092 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I jilted that. 2093 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 5: Every once in a while. Every once in a while 2094 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,360 Speaker 5: I feel like we get cheated on. I hear some 2095 01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:08,960 Speaker 5: of our guys. 2096 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:09,519 Speaker 13: I like that. 2097 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:11,680 Speaker 1: But he did mention us. 2098 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,599 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Oh then I take it back. 2099 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Loving the show today, good energy, fun arguments. Evan 2100 01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,679 Speaker 1: has obviously proven an awesome addition. One of my favorite 2101 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,879 Speaker 1: things about him is how he'll flip from a talented, 2102 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,880 Speaker 1: reasonable rational analyst into a reactive fan drenched to a 2103 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,599 Speaker 1: recency bias. This is true. He was despairing the future 2104 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,800 Speaker 1: at one in five, but now after beating the Bills, 2105 01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:34,280 Speaker 1: Evan is penciling. 2106 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 5: In games and way different. 2107 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 1: I love it. It gives me hope I didn't know 2108 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 1: I might have. Don't listen to Paul Evan on to 2109 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,640 Speaker 1: five and five, LFG. 2110 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:44,320 Speaker 5: Hey listen. 2111 01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,639 Speaker 3: I like I said before the break, my long term 2112 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 3: outlook of the team in the franchise and the quarterback 2113 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,600 Speaker 3: and the head coach has not changed one iota. My 2114 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,160 Speaker 3: short term outlook of the neck of this season, and 2115 01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,160 Speaker 3: I think that this is where like it's not even 2116 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,760 Speaker 3: just my fandom. It's also just my my job, right 2117 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,960 Speaker 3: that I could not watch them lose every freaking game, 2118 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,240 Speaker 3: all right, it was gonna drive me up a dang wall. 2119 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,080 Speaker 3: And I totally agree, and I expect them to lose 2120 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,360 Speaker 3: every game selfishly, selfishly, like I did not want to 2121 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 3: get on a plane on Saturday to go to Miami 2122 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,599 Speaker 3: to watch the one in six Patriots lose by thirty 2123 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,920 Speaker 3: points to the Dolphins, Like I just didn't want that. 2124 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,200 Speaker 5: So I will tell you that do you want the 2125 01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,120 Speaker 5: two and five Patriots points? Just asking for a friend 2126 01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:30,040 Speaker 5: you want I have some hope, but you want the hope. 2127 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,680 Speaker 5: But you want the two and five Patriots to lose 2128 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 5: by thirty points as well? I said, I don't want them, but. 2129 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,759 Speaker 1: That's not the mindset getting on the plane. I totally 2130 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,880 Speaker 1: agree with that. I'm going to be have a little hope. 2131 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to be totally sure why not? This is 2132 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 3: more less like it's less about my my fandom at 2133 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 3: this point, and it's more about my selfishness of us 2134 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,760 Speaker 3: having to cover the team. And I was I was 2135 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 3: looking down the road. I'm sorry, Fred, but I was 2136 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,720 Speaker 3: looking at Germany and being like, oh my goodness, I 2137 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,840 Speaker 3: have to go to a different country and halfway across 2138 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 3: the world. I hate to cover a one in eight 2139 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,960 Speaker 3: football team against Gardner minshew To and. 2140 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,800 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, dear, I hear that. I still 2141 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,600 Speaker 5: gotta watch. Yeah, but maybe they actually you know, I. 2142 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Laugh at fans when they say, oh, I'm embarrassed, Like 2143 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,800 Speaker 1: what are you embarrassed for? You know, you weren't the 2144 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,640 Speaker 1: ones out there, you know, so what it's one of 2145 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,879 Speaker 1: my favorites, you know. But in this case, going to Germany, 2146 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,600 Speaker 1: if we were won and whatever, I was going to 2147 01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: be a little embarrassed. 2148 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:28,960 Speaker 14: You know. 2149 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, it would be weird to host all those events 2150 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:32,120 Speaker 9: and parties. 2151 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because your reping. Yeah, you're trying to You're trying 2152 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,800 Speaker 1: to tell people be our fans, and then I just. 2153 01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:39,639 Speaker 3: Didn't want to play. 2154 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 5: Friend's gonna be walking on to see the game on 2155 01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,640 Speaker 5: TV against the Bills. You see the game on the. 2156 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:46,120 Speaker 1: Bill. 2157 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 5: We keep track of records differently in American football, but 2158 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:53,800 Speaker 5: you saw the game. 2159 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,479 Speaker 1: Every game is its own championship. We won that. 2160 01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 5: But I think part of this comes down to what 2161 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 5: you were thinking and what you thought heading into the 2162 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,840 Speaker 5: season and all that kind of stuff, the expectation stuff, 2163 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 5: because I don't know, did you really think they were 2164 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:09,960 Speaker 5: going to lose like thirty four to nothing every game? 2165 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,000 Speaker 1: Like I just looked at that, But I didn't think 2166 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,920 Speaker 1: they were going to lose thirty four nothing in one game. 2167 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:15,040 Speaker 8: No. 2168 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:15,120 Speaker 14: No. 2169 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,920 Speaker 5: But my point is, like if you went into the sea, 2170 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,120 Speaker 5: like going into the season, I thought there was a 2171 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 5: really good chance they were going to be one in five. 2172 01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,320 Speaker 5: It just didn't happen the way I thought it was 2173 01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,519 Speaker 5: going to happen. I thought they would lose to the Jets, 2174 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,840 Speaker 5: and I thought they would split with Vegas and the Saints. 2175 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,599 Speaker 5: It turned out they beat the Jets and lost both 2176 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:36,439 Speaker 5: of those games. But like I just I think it 2177 01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,680 Speaker 5: comes down to what you thought. Like, I still think 2178 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 5: they're going to win somewhere around seven. 2179 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 1: But it's different to think that they might be one 2180 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,680 Speaker 1: and five and then see how they played to get 2181 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,680 Speaker 1: to one in five. And I didn't expect that. 2182 01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 5: But I didn't expect them to play as well as 2183 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:50,440 Speaker 5: they did against Philadelphia. 2184 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,320 Speaker 1: No, but I expected them to be competitive, you know, 2185 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:54,920 Speaker 1: but not quite half. 2186 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 5: For the most part, they have been, you know, well 2187 01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,759 Speaker 5: two I mean, they had two really really bad games, 2188 01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:01,920 Speaker 5: But I don't expect them to turn it over three 2189 01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 5: plus times every game either like they've had how many turnovers, 2190 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,680 Speaker 5: like eleven, But I don't expect them to turn it 2191 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:08,439 Speaker 5: over at that rate. 2192 01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 1: But at some point you say, well, that's who they are. 2193 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,799 Speaker 1: You know, they're the team that has the big minus 2194 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 1: in the turnover battle. 2195 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 3: But this is like why you needed and I kept 2196 01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 3: on trying to tell myself this that you needed to 2197 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:24,320 Speaker 3: look at the whole like picture, like you know, firing 2198 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,000 Speaker 3: Bill and getting rid of Mac over six games was 2199 01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,200 Speaker 3: not like that's not the way to go about it. 2200 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:30,880 Speaker 3: Like you got to look at the whole season and 2201 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,600 Speaker 3: look at the whole body of work. And I was 2202 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,639 Speaker 3: with Paul. I thought that they were going to start rough. 2203 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 3: I figured the offense would take a lot of time 2204 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,320 Speaker 3: to get put together by O'Brien. They had a tough schedule, 2205 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,360 Speaker 3: so they started one and five. But if this team 2206 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,639 Speaker 3: finishes seven to nine or whatever, seven and ten, whatever 2207 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 3: the math is now, but they won, you know, a 2208 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,479 Speaker 3: bunch of games late in the season because they started 2209 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,439 Speaker 3: to play better later in the year, then that changes 2210 01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,519 Speaker 3: how you approach the twenty twenty four offseason. And that's 2211 01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 3: just that's where I'm at. I did the whole plath 2212 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,120 Speaker 3: to the playoff thing and everything is like kind of 2213 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,320 Speaker 3: I also went like that's where I'm at. 2214 01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,560 Speaker 5: And I would also look at you know, they have 2215 01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:08,519 Speaker 5: a couple of more of these games against you know, 2216 01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,599 Speaker 5: these opponents that we put in a different category, like Buffalo, 2217 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,439 Speaker 5: you know, like it's Miami, it's the Chiefs, it's Buffalo again. 2218 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 5: So I'll be watching if this turns out to be 2219 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,320 Speaker 5: a one off and they end up seven eight wins. 2220 01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 5: They played better, but they just beat up on all 2221 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,200 Speaker 5: the bad teams. Like that's why I found That's why 2222 01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,760 Speaker 5: I had so much fun Sunday, Like it wasn't just 2223 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:30,560 Speaker 5: that the way the game ended and the way the 2224 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,840 Speaker 5: game unfolded, it was against a good team they haven't 2225 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,639 Speaker 5: beaten that, you know, with the win. 2226 01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Should the Patriots buy a billboard down the street from 2227 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Ralph Edwards Stadium or whatever it's called, and you know 2228 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,679 Speaker 1: the way the bills the league? 2229 01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:47,439 Speaker 5: Sure, why not? 2230 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:48,160 Speaker 1: Should we do that? 2231 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 5: Why not? 2232 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:50,640 Speaker 1: They do? 2233 01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,160 Speaker 5: They got their own problems. 2234 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,599 Speaker 3: Right now, Hailey Steinfeld, Right, I was right about. 2235 01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,960 Speaker 5: That, Hailey stein I knew it was taking down the dynasty. 2236 01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,719 Speaker 9: Did you take a selfie with him in the tunnel. 2237 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,559 Speaker 3: No, I did have a nice, nice moment with our 2238 01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:03,679 Speaker 3: quarterback in the locker. 2239 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,599 Speaker 7: Room after the game, though, Wow, talking lacrosse. 2240 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was Friday. 2241 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,040 Speaker 8: I will say this is the one game that I 2242 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,840 Speaker 8: like didn't have to keep myself up to watch. Actually 2243 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 8: I could actually watch the game without feeling like I 2244 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:16,719 Speaker 8: needed ten coffees. 2245 01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,120 Speaker 4: Okay, you got to tell Fred about Mac busting your 2246 01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:20,240 Speaker 4: chops about lacrosse a little bit. 2247 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was Friday. Someone so he has a 2248 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,760 Speaker 3: lacrosse stick in his in his locker. I can say that, right. 2249 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, we're not supposed to really talk about 2250 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:32,679 Speaker 3: what's in their lockers, but because he has a lacrosse 2251 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,840 Speaker 3: stick in his locker, and someone else had asked him like, oh, like, 2252 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,840 Speaker 3: did you play lacrosse? And he said yes, And I 2253 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,680 Speaker 3: said I played lacrosse too, And he was like, oh, 2254 01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,800 Speaker 3: what what position did you play? I said long stick 2255 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,479 Speaker 3: MIDI and he looks at me. He goes, the poll 2256 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,799 Speaker 3: is taller than you. And I was like that that's accurate. 2257 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. 2258 01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:50,680 Speaker 13: And so that was that one. 2259 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:52,000 Speaker 3: That's Hi. That was the story. 2260 01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:56,400 Speaker 1: Travis Travis in West Virginia did Sunday's game change your 2261 01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,080 Speaker 1: opinion of whether or not Josh Allen's style of playing 2262 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,440 Speaker 1: backyard circle ball is sustainable. 2263 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,320 Speaker 5: No, we just we finally caught him on an off day. 2264 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,360 Speaker 5: Maybe tomorrow, Maybe tomorrow, you'll get me with that one. 2265 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, just take the wheel. No, not today. 2266 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,640 Speaker 5: I just I think we finally caught him on an 2267 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,560 Speaker 5: off day. And yep, you know it was. It was 2268 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:26,360 Speaker 5: but Haalstein the Patriots. The Patriots did that. The Patriots 2269 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,200 Speaker 5: got the pressure like, that's like he didn't want to 2270 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,160 Speaker 5: do that. When he threw the ball in less than 2271 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,000 Speaker 5: two point five seconds, he was seventeen for seventeen. Again, 2272 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the nerd stats again. Look at 2273 01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,320 Speaker 5: Paul true digging An. The Patriots did that to him. 2274 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,479 Speaker 5: He didn't decide I'm just gonna go run around and 2275 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:45,840 Speaker 5: try to throw a ball in the back of the 2276 01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:49,639 Speaker 5: end zone ten seconds after the play started. The Patriots 2277 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 5: made him do that. 2278 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,160 Speaker 1: Rich in New York big fan of the show, great 2279 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,599 Speaker 1: win over the Bills. With the Belichick contract being leaked, 2280 01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,600 Speaker 1: most likely being leaked by Belichick, I couldn't help but 2281 01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,600 Speaker 1: thinking that BB channeleds inner George Costanza in the episode 2282 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 1: where George is working at play now and the boss 2283 01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,800 Speaker 1: wants him gone and offers to pay six months of 2284 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,160 Speaker 1: the one year contract to get him to leave immediately 2285 01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 1: at George then says, you see, if I stay the 2286 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 1: whole year, I get it all. Everything always comes back 2287 01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:18,839 Speaker 1: to the Seinfeld. 2288 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 5: That is correct. I thought you were going to say 2289 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,280 Speaker 5: when he was driving around with the World Series trophy 2290 01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,599 Speaker 5: attached to the back of the car trying to get 2291 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:27,679 Speaker 5: fired from the Yankees. 2292 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,439 Speaker 1: A lot of people saying how bad the Bills played. 2293 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think the Patriots forced some of that, 2294 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,880 Speaker 1: as Paul just said, and I do. I don't think 2295 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:36,880 Speaker 1: they don't have the best game. 2296 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,320 Speaker 5: I'm not going to pretend to be Sunshine dot Com 2297 01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,560 Speaker 5: guy like I don't think the Bills played well, but 2298 01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:42,960 Speaker 5: I think the Patriots had something. 2299 01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 13: To do with that. 2300 01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,200 Speaker 3: But also, for the record, the Bills have not been 2301 01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 3: playing well for like a month now, no, like since 2302 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 3: that Miami game. 2303 01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,160 Speaker 5: And that's why I think most people were saying what 2304 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,160 Speaker 5: they're saying about the Bills. The Bills were rolling and 2305 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:54,920 Speaker 5: then they came in and played like that. I don't 2306 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:55,920 Speaker 5: think people would say. 2307 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 3: Well, Buffalo did. They would just say, oh, Buffalo had 2308 01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,559 Speaker 3: a bad game. Buffalo is not played well. 2309 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Donnie in Pittsburgh. 2310 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 5: I came. 2311 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 1: I come bearing a white flag as a representative of 2312 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 1: the Mac Jones haters. I couldn't be happier as a 2313 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,280 Speaker 1: fan for the growth he showed and the growth of 2314 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,760 Speaker 1: our offense is taken over two weeks in terms of 2315 01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,679 Speaker 1: O line play, running back play, in wide receiver play. 2316 01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 1: They deserve us to pat them on the back this 2317 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,160 Speaker 1: week while we are cautiously optimistic in the face of 2318 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,240 Speaker 1: a Miami away game, this could be something. They need 2319 01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 1: to beat Miami for me to fully say this is something. 2320 01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,000 Speaker 1: But Mac in this offense have won back the belief 2321 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:35,160 Speaker 1: of at least one heavy hater, a shred of negativity. 2322 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,240 Speaker 1: Mac needs to stop the audible into delay of game 2323 01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,120 Speaker 1: thing he has done two weeks in a row. 2324 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,479 Speaker 5: I don't I don't believe that email. Yeah, I don't 2325 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,920 Speaker 5: believe you were a heavy Mac hater and then one 2326 01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,560 Speaker 5: game change your mind. Well I don't believe that. 2327 01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:49,679 Speaker 1: But he's coming around. 2328 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,200 Speaker 9: I feel like this like made me like raise my eyebrow. 2329 01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:53,760 Speaker 9: I can't really do that on my own. 2330 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 1: I think he's just think he's just saying cease fire 2331 01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,200 Speaker 1: for a yeah, oh that's not how I read it. 2332 01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 5: They have the is what I read. I was I 2333 01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,400 Speaker 5: was wrong. I'm waving the white flag. That's how we 2334 01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:05,160 Speaker 5: started the email. 2335 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:06,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely not waving that yet. 2336 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,479 Speaker 7: Not everything has to be so definitive, Like one game 2337 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,479 Speaker 7: tells us everything you know. 2338 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,000 Speaker 5: Now this game tells everything you know. It's it's like, 2339 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,720 Speaker 5: I kind of like the way Evan said it. You know, 2340 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,800 Speaker 5: my long term views of the quarterback and the team 2341 01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:19,960 Speaker 5: really largely unchanged. 2342 01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 1: Let's see, Mark says, I love it. 2343 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:25,880 Speaker 3: I love when giving me credit. 2344 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,120 Speaker 5: I love when I just give you credit when you 2345 01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:28,560 Speaker 5: agree with me. 2346 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,200 Speaker 8: I love that Paul always has the receipts, like, oh yeah, 2347 01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:32,920 Speaker 8: it's amazing. 2348 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:37,080 Speaker 5: Yeah he does research. Nobody keeps if it's at all 2349 01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,759 Speaker 5: valuable in any way. Like there's a knowledge or something 2350 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:46,719 Speaker 5: to be gained by me remembering something, it won't happen 2351 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,800 Speaker 5: only if it's completely an utterly meaningless. You tell me, 2352 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,479 Speaker 5: you asked me what the score was like in week 2353 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,800 Speaker 5: three of ninety six or something like. I got it, 2354 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,880 Speaker 5: but I can't get anything out of it, you know, 2355 01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,640 Speaker 5: I don't if it's of any value, I don't retain it. 2356 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,080 Speaker 9: Mike that means your key was valuable because he retained 2357 01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:04,599 Speaker 9: it to look. 2358 01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,040 Speaker 5: At market on the sheet. 2359 01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:11,439 Speaker 1: I didn't remember it marking Everett Evan critique. Evan, please 2360 01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,840 Speaker 1: start your commentary with in my opinion, you're starting to 2361 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,880 Speaker 1: sound like you know more than Bill and his staff, 2362 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,800 Speaker 1: and you don't. Great things take time, and Bill would 2363 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,760 Speaker 1: just we just need contributions from everyone for it to work. 2364 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,000 Speaker 3: Great things take time, which was obviously for you, which 2365 01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 3: was exactly my take that it was going to take time. 2366 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 1: Paul. You know you were an English major, right or no, 2367 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,960 Speaker 1: no journalism, Well, but you had you had to write 2368 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot, right, and people would tell us, don't say 2369 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:42,880 Speaker 1: in my opinion it's your paper. We know it's your opinion, 2370 01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,120 Speaker 1: and if Evan's saying it, we know it's his opinion. 2371 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:47,680 Speaker 5: Correct, You don't have. 2372 01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,439 Speaker 3: To say, I'll have a disclaimer at the end of 2373 01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,200 Speaker 3: all of our articles. That's say it's my opinion. 2374 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,519 Speaker 5: The other part I would just say, like the only 2375 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 5: difference would be if you're given an opinion on something 2376 01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:02,600 Speaker 5: that's like, you know, newsworthy, yeah you should probably say like, 2377 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:03,760 Speaker 5: no one's told me that. 2378 01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:07,200 Speaker 1: But like if we get into the whole Bill contract, right, 2379 01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 1: we could all have our thoughts on it, and they 2380 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,400 Speaker 1: would be our opinion. And I think for our sake, 2381 01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,320 Speaker 1: it's very important for us to say, listen, I don't 2382 01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,559 Speaker 1: know anything, but this is what I think, because there 2383 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,840 Speaker 1: are some people that think that, like, you know, we're 2384 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,639 Speaker 1: having lunch with Bill and it's just not the way. 2385 01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,040 Speaker 5: It's amazing how many people think. I mean, that's an 2386 01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:27,559 Speaker 5: exaggeration of it, but that when we say something, it's 2387 01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:28,760 Speaker 5: like a voice of the organ. 2388 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, we've got a tray in the cafeteria next 2389 01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:31,240 Speaker 1: to you. 2390 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:35,519 Speaker 5: I overheard your son wish. 2391 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's just not the way it is. We 2392 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 1: know as much and as little as everyone else about 2393 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:42,639 Speaker 1: most things. 2394 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,880 Speaker 5: When it comes to that, you know, when it comes 2395 01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 5: to the football, I don't know. 2396 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:48,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, when it. 2397 01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,160 Speaker 4: Comes to how I just don't have this like burning 2398 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,760 Speaker 4: desire to know secrets or to know things, or you know, 2399 01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:54,240 Speaker 4: like I just like to watch the games and. 2400 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:54,880 Speaker 5: See what happens. 2401 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,040 Speaker 1: Listen. You know, we can get into it maybe later 2402 01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,320 Speaker 1: in the week, but like, I think it's important for 2403 01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,599 Speaker 1: fans to know what the future of their head coaches, 2404 01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:06,320 Speaker 1: and you know, most teams, you know, like John Gruden 2405 01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,360 Speaker 1: gets signed with the Raiders. It's ten years, one hundred 2406 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:09,960 Speaker 1: million dollars. You know, it's out there. 2407 01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:14,040 Speaker 5: We never know, and we think they knew originally like 2408 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:18,320 Speaker 5: when we first signed, but since then no. Yeah, but 2409 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,560 Speaker 5: and we'll probably get to that tomorrow. Would you say, like, 2410 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,640 Speaker 5: I think today's a ust termed the page day, but 2411 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,880 Speaker 5: today's a basking the glory of a really fun win 2412 01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:28,559 Speaker 5: yea day. 2413 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a big story. I think that tiers. 2414 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,840 Speaker 1: I think fans want to know what the future looks 2415 01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 1: like in that. 2416 01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,080 Speaker 3: It is a it is a big story. It's huge, 2417 01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,800 Speaker 3: but it's being made into a monumentally big story for 2418 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 3: I think no reason. 2419 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,599 Speaker 5: Because people don't know. But that's part of it. It's 2420 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,200 Speaker 5: the uncertainty, like the fact that. 2421 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,080 Speaker 3: Paul's shows no Paul, the fact that every single one 2422 01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,559 Speaker 3: of those shows first segment is leading off right now 2423 01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:56,040 Speaker 3: is about Bill's contract. 2424 01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:56,880 Speaker 1: It's drama. 2425 01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:57,719 Speaker 5: It's wild. 2426 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild, like like what we're doing now because 2427 01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:03,040 Speaker 1: this is our first opportunity together as a group to 2428 01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,240 Speaker 1: talk about the game. We can fill two hours, but 2429 01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,360 Speaker 1: they have to fill twenty hours. 2430 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,560 Speaker 3: And the drama, I also can't talk ball like this. 2431 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:16,360 Speaker 1: Well that's true, but it's easier to fill twenty hours 2432 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 1: of speculation than twenty hours of basking the goal because 2433 01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,640 Speaker 1: that admittedly that will get that will get tired, you know, 2434 01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:28,280 Speaker 1: So the bill thing works more for what they're doing. 2435 01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't blame them for doing it. 2436 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:30,200 Speaker 13: I do. 2437 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,040 Speaker 8: I feel like it's the uncertainty of how much he's 2438 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,559 Speaker 8: getting paid, but then also the reasoning of like why 2439 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:35,800 Speaker 8: that came out when it did. 2440 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,439 Speaker 1: And then I also like, listen, the report raises more 2441 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,960 Speaker 1: questions than it did answer things. Oh yeah, you know, 2442 01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,800 Speaker 1: like this everything is a big question on that report. 2443 01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,759 Speaker 8: I'm like, I hope you didn't think that that report 2444 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,000 Speaker 8: was gonna hush anybody up, because that just made people 2445 01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:54,000 Speaker 8: question it even more. 2446 01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2447 01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:55,720 Speaker 5: I do wonder what the. 2448 01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,080 Speaker 1: The motive was. Yeah, the reason, well, if you knew 2449 01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:04,040 Speaker 1: who leaked it, then it's easier to figure out the motive. 2450 01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,360 Speaker 5: But no, but I think that you could, you could 2451 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,559 Speaker 5: make different motives for either side. 2452 01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:11,280 Speaker 1: Sure that's true. 2453 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:12,519 Speaker 5: I don't know what the motive was. 2454 01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but anyway, we'll talk. 2455 01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,200 Speaker 5: About it more. 2456 01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:15,920 Speaker 1: We'll get into that. 2457 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:17,599 Speaker 5: We have some of those clips and stuff we'll play 2458 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:18,000 Speaker 5: on tomorrow. 2459 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:23,040 Speaker 1: Jason and Carlsbad New Mexico. I'm torn. I like how 2460 01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 1: Mac played on Sunday, and if he could play that 2461 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,120 Speaker 1: way more weeks than not, then I would absolutely love it. 2462 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,760 Speaker 1: But he doesn't. So do we want Mac or do 2463 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,080 Speaker 1: we want a top pick for a better quarterback next year? 2464 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,920 Speaker 1: So to all of y'all, what would you prefer? Prefer 2465 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: a top pick or Mac? 2466 01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,360 Speaker 3: I'm always anti tanking. I've been in like I was 2467 01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,040 Speaker 3: embracing the tank because I had no other choice. But 2468 01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:49,080 Speaker 3: if I had a choice, I would much rather their 2469 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 3: arrowb pointing upward in the second half of the season, 2470 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,200 Speaker 3: and they build something in the second half of this 2471 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,679 Speaker 3: year and then add to it, and then twenty twenty 2472 01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,400 Speaker 3: four they maybe have better you know, tackle play, better 2473 01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 3: wide receiver play, and you know, keep the same defense 2474 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,800 Speaker 3: relatively together, and now they're competing in twenty four. Like, 2475 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 3: I would much rather go that route than than tank 2476 01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:11,559 Speaker 3: and start all over too. 2477 01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,080 Speaker 4: I just I just still go back to, you know, 2478 01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,080 Speaker 4: feeling like you got to make sure that you give 2479 01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 4: your first round quarterback all the chances he can get 2480 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,360 Speaker 4: to succeed. And I don't think anybody could say that 2481 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,439 Speaker 4: they've given him every chance to succeed yet and even 2482 01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,360 Speaker 4: if you don't believe that he's ever going to be 2483 01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,360 Speaker 4: a top five, you know, super Bowl contending quarterback, I 2484 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:28,040 Speaker 4: just think you could. 2485 01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:29,240 Speaker 5: You can't keep chasing your tail. 2486 01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,200 Speaker 4: And so, you know, to that one caller's point, if 2487 01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,679 Speaker 4: you feel like, hey, we think Mac can still play, 2488 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,360 Speaker 4: let's let's continue to build around. Let's let's let him 2489 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,519 Speaker 4: carry over his offense. Let's have an offense for the 2490 01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 4: same offense for a second year in a row. You know, 2491 01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,800 Speaker 4: I just I think overall that adds just the stability 2492 01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,080 Speaker 4: of the organization. I don't think anybody really truly wants 2493 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,320 Speaker 4: to blow up an organization and start over a coach 2494 01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,080 Speaker 4: and start over a quarterback and begin that long row. 2495 01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,200 Speaker 5: Listen, it's long. It's long and uncertain. 2496 01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,960 Speaker 1: If if you come out of this season thinking, okay, 2497 01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,599 Speaker 1: Mac has a chance to be the guy, that makes 2498 01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:03,360 Speaker 1: it so much easier, I mean, so you can whatever 2499 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:06,920 Speaker 1: assets and money you have you can spend elsewhere. You know, 2500 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,960 Speaker 1: otherwise you're back in that hole looking for quarterbacks. So, 2501 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,519 Speaker 1: as Patriots fans, even if you haven't liked what Mac 2502 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,240 Speaker 1: has done so far, you should be hoping that he 2503 01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,960 Speaker 1: can turn it around, because that will make life so 2504 01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:21,639 Speaker 1: much easier this offseason. 2505 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,000 Speaker 5: I feel in between them all. 2506 01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,519 Speaker 8: I feel like, regardless of whether you keep him or 2507 01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,439 Speaker 8: get a new quarterback, you still need to build around 2508 01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:28,519 Speaker 8: them because what he has right now. 2509 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,800 Speaker 1: Is That's what I'm saying, You're gonna have to do 2510 01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,960 Speaker 1: that anyway. So if you have one thing in place, 2511 01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,800 Speaker 1: being the quarterback, go let's start building this, you know. 2512 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,479 Speaker 8: But I also don't think that he's the guy either, Like, 2513 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,080 Speaker 8: even if he does finish out the season like seven 2514 01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:44,960 Speaker 8: to nine or whatever it is, I still don't think 2515 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:46,080 Speaker 8: long term he's it. 2516 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,599 Speaker 4: I think that's the fair argument, is that somebody could say, look, 2517 01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,400 Speaker 4: he's not the guy. You're wasting your time continuing to 2518 01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:53,160 Speaker 4: try to make him the guy. The sooner you can 2519 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,280 Speaker 4: get someone who you truly believe to be the guy, 2520 01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:56,080 Speaker 4: the better. 2521 01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,120 Speaker 1: Well. I think this gets back to the caller, the 2522 01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,920 Speaker 1: early caller we had who had played off with the scout, 2523 01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, define the guy. Like, if you're looking for, 2524 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 1: you know, an elite quarterback, you're probably not gonna get him. 2525 01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,560 Speaker 1: But if you can get a guy who's capable, like 2526 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, we always use Kirk Cousins as the guy, 2527 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 1: stick with him, you know, stick with that and build 2528 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:19,400 Speaker 1: around it. 2529 01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:21,559 Speaker 5: I just feel like there's a danger in that. There's 2530 01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,880 Speaker 5: a Daniel Jones danger, there's an Andy Dalton danger, there's 2531 01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 5: a Kirk Cousin danger. You can convince yourself you have 2532 01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,439 Speaker 5: the guy, and I'm with you on that. If you're wrong, 2533 01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:32,799 Speaker 5: I think it does more damage than if you started. 2534 01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:33,760 Speaker 5: But the question is is. 2535 01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:36,320 Speaker 6: You have a guy? 2536 01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,720 Speaker 3: You don't have the guy, Okay, But the question is 2537 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:42,479 Speaker 3: with Kirk Cousins, is like, if kirk Cousins was in 2538 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:47,240 Speaker 3: a in a better I guess in general just situation, 2539 01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:53,160 Speaker 3: then Minnesota, I don't know their head coaches. Their defense 2540 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:57,040 Speaker 3: is horrible, like you know, like so if Kirk Cousins 2541 01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:02,160 Speaker 3: was playing, but no, But like the question is is, 2542 01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,559 Speaker 3: like you know, it's funny, like you bring up last night. 2543 01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,240 Speaker 3: If Kirk Cousins is the quarterback for the San Francisco 2544 01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,000 Speaker 3: forty nine ers instead of the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, 2545 01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:14,000 Speaker 3: which he might be next year, you like can. 2546 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:17,880 Speaker 5: Place the way it played last night, They're gonna lose 2547 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,200 Speaker 5: most games. I don't know what. I don't even know 2548 01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,560 Speaker 5: who those guys were. I can't believe how out of 2549 01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:26,080 Speaker 5: position they were all night. It was amazing. They had 2550 01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:27,320 Speaker 5: some ridiculous penalties. 2551 01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 1: Is it fair to say that of all the positions 2552 01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,040 Speaker 1: in football, the quarterback is most susceptible to his environment? 2553 01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:35,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, I do. 2554 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2555 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,439 Speaker 4: I don't want to believe that though, you know, I 2556 01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,479 Speaker 4: want to believe that that you can have a quarterback 2557 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,960 Speaker 4: then that can affect the environment around them. 2558 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,000 Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, I just Kirk Cousins gets thrown 2559 01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,120 Speaker 5: around all the time and it's like. 2560 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,320 Speaker 4: Well, what do we want to do when we rebuild, Well, 2561 01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,800 Speaker 4: we want to get an elite weapon like justin Jefferson. Sure, 2562 01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,880 Speaker 4: you want to get a cutting edge offensive coordinator coming 2563 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:53,559 Speaker 4: from one of the hot. 2564 01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:54,200 Speaker 5: Offenses in the league. 2565 01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2566 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:55,800 Speaker 4: Oh, with Kevin O'Connell, you know what I mean, it's 2567 01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,080 Speaker 4: like you see Minnesota making the same state mistakes that 2568 01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,400 Speaker 4: people call in here all the time pitching, and it's. 2569 01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,360 Speaker 5: Not I think he's fine. I just don't think that 2570 01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,760 Speaker 5: he's the guy, that's all. I think he's good. 2571 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,680 Speaker 3: I think Shanahan would win the Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins. 2572 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,840 Speaker 5: With that team, Yes, Yeah, that's different. I think they're 2573 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,880 Speaker 5: gonna win the Super Bowl with Brott Berdy. Yeah, Well, 2574 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:16,760 Speaker 5: how was pretty less. 2575 01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:20,719 Speaker 1: I didn't see the game down the stretch interceptions, what happened. 2576 01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:22,600 Speaker 5: It's so funny, But they have. 2577 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,360 Speaker 3: To have some injuries on offense. He doesn't, you know, Yeah, I. 2578 01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,479 Speaker 5: Don't think that. I think the balance. I think the 2579 01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,479 Speaker 5: balance of the game. They were really good offensively, and 2580 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,439 Speaker 5: he was really good. Now I know he didn't do 2581 01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:34,639 Speaker 5: it at the end. He's the opposite of Mac. Yeah, 2582 01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,560 Speaker 5: Mac did it at the end. Until the end. He 2583 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,960 Speaker 5: was averaging ten yards per He was playing really what 2584 01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:42,640 Speaker 5: I want, but I had I had some interest in 2585 01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:48,080 Speaker 5: that game. Didn't didn't turn out well, and he played 2586 01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:53,320 Speaker 5: really He played really really well until the last drive 2587 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,200 Speaker 5: when they needed him to do it. Like if McCaffrey. 2588 01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,479 Speaker 5: McCaffrey's fumble took seven points off the board, the field 2589 01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:04,120 Speaker 5: goal kicker missed another kick they had, Yeah, I mean 2590 01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,240 Speaker 5: one that they allow Jordan Adamson to take the ball 2591 01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:08,559 Speaker 5: out of a defensive back to hand. 2592 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 8: That was. 2593 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,040 Speaker 5: Sixty yard touchdown with no time left in the first half. 2594 01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:15,280 Speaker 5: That's absurdly bad. 2595 01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't We're gonna turn into Vikings tonight, but 2596 01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,880 Speaker 1: I give them a lot of credit, you know, No, Jefferson, 2597 01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:26,519 Speaker 1: your guy was really fast. They they came out to 2598 01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:31,240 Speaker 1: play Ellen Wisconsin. This probably is the most fun I've 2599 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,519 Speaker 1: had watching a game in two years. Big props to 2600 01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,360 Speaker 1: the team for winning a game that I thought was unwinnable. 2601 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,160 Speaker 1: I still don't think this changes much in the grand 2602 01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,840 Speaker 1: scheme of things, though. I was on the new coach 2603 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,880 Speaker 1: slash quarterback train for more reasons than just the start 2604 01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,880 Speaker 1: of this season alone. But hey, who knows, Maybe I'll 2605 01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,960 Speaker 1: be proven wrong if the team proves Evans Fantasy Land true. 2606 01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:54,760 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's calm. I had literally am in 2607 01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:56,240 Speaker 3: the same exact boat as. 2608 01:52:56,160 --> 01:53:01,960 Speaker 5: The email that happens good and I said, what, Yeah, 2609 01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:03,400 Speaker 5: that's how I got on Mount Cook's. 2610 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,400 Speaker 3: I said, was that at least we have like some 2611 01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 3: like this right now, right here, right now, there is 2612 01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:15,240 Speaker 3: a football season to be had for the Patriots. Yeah, 2613 01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,800 Speaker 3: which you couldn't have said before Buffalo. Now in twenty 2614 01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,519 Speaker 3: twenty four and beyond, I still have no clue if 2615 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,400 Speaker 3: they have the right people in place for the future 2616 01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:28,000 Speaker 3: of the team, but for next week in Miami at least, yeah, 2617 01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 3: there's there's a slipper. 2618 01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,800 Speaker 4: And I think too though, like even just aside from 2619 01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:32,400 Speaker 4: the win, that you're starting to get, you know, just 2620 01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,320 Speaker 4: some positive vibes from some guys. 2621 01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:35,720 Speaker 5: You know, some guys are starting to step up. 2622 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,080 Speaker 4: I feel like in you know those two weeks where 2623 01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:38,800 Speaker 4: they got blown out, it was like it was so 2624 01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:40,920 Speaker 4: hard to feel good about anything that they were doing 2625 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:41,200 Speaker 4: at that. 2626 01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,720 Speaker 5: Point, and talked about Pharroll Brown. Yeah, I know they're like, whoa, 2627 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:44,920 Speaker 5: Like that was it right? 2628 01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:45,200 Speaker 1: Like that? 2629 01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,960 Speaker 3: What is up with Pharaoh Brown? Where did that come from? 2630 01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,360 Speaker 3: There's no way they could, like they can play koy 2631 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,160 Speaker 3: about it all they want. They had no idea Farrow 2632 01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,479 Speaker 3: Brown was gonna be a big play machine. 2633 01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,800 Speaker 1: The clutch Gan clutch Gene. That's the new thing. 2634 01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:59,959 Speaker 3: Every time he touches the ball, it's an explosive. 2635 01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 5: It's wild. 2636 01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:04,880 Speaker 1: Dennis and East Boston emailing to compliment Paul Fred and 2637 01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,599 Speaker 1: Mike on all the deep Seinfeld references over the years. 2638 01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,680 Speaker 1: Please keep them coming. Pats and Seinfeld have been my 2639 01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 1: two favorite things to watch for who knows how long, 2640 01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,479 Speaker 1: so I love it as a listener. Last week, two 2641 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:19,600 Speaker 1: brilliant Seinfeld references I think most people missed. Mike so 2642 01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,360 Speaker 1: Perty is the guy that sidelined Jimmy Paul and you 2643 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,960 Speaker 1: end with a swirl I was cracking up, gentlemen, keep 2644 01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:26,439 Speaker 1: them coming. 2645 01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:27,639 Speaker 5: I need fans. 2646 01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,880 Speaker 9: I need some fans that are alaw in order, Like. 2647 01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unvery quotable though, like there's not a lot 2648 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:35,800 Speaker 4: of like moments and you're guilty. 2649 01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,120 Speaker 5: You know, it's a very uplifting. 2650 01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:40,920 Speaker 1: You got to remember all the Lenny's lines, you know, 2651 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,800 Speaker 1: because Ny has the line, are you gonna watch the 2652 01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,240 Speaker 1: new Jesse l Martin series? Watched? 2653 01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:48,280 Speaker 5: I've watched a couple. 2654 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:48,920 Speaker 1: Is it any good? 2655 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:54,160 Speaker 5: It's not bad? Uh that you watched a couple? Name 2656 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:54,400 Speaker 5: of it? 2657 01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:59,000 Speaker 1: The educator. No, he's like a professor, right, educator. 2658 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,880 Speaker 5: It's the It's one of those like one word and 2659 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,240 Speaker 5: I missed it. That's al Michaels. 2660 01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:13,160 Speaker 3: You know he's doing you know al Michaels talk about 2661 01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:18,440 Speaker 3: washed My goodness, did you watch that Thursday night game? 2662 01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:25,520 Speaker 3: The Irrational al Michaels like it's it's time, Oh, it's time. 2663 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:27,400 Speaker 3: It's okay, I just got a great run. 2664 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:28,280 Speaker 1: He's making bank. 2665 01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:31,040 Speaker 5: I think he thinks it's ridiculous that he's doing games 2666 01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:34,720 Speaker 5: on streaming with with herb Street and he's just just like. 2667 01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:40,840 Speaker 3: Nobody that check Claire, Yeah, okay, talk about mailing it in. 2668 01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna continue wearing my pants up to my 2669 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:47,960 Speaker 1: nipples and I'll be fine with it. That show is 2670 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:52,240 Speaker 1: not bad, though, Okay, I just kind of these days. 2671 01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't want. 2672 01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,040 Speaker 5: I know, you don't. You're a snob. 2673 01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,400 Speaker 1: Commercials. I don't want. 2674 01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:02,280 Speaker 3: I don't don't watch a ton of watches The Bachelor. 2675 01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:04,920 Speaker 1: You kidding me? I do not watch the bat watch 2676 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:05,400 Speaker 1: the Bachelor. 2677 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:08,520 Speaker 5: I'll watch the Bachelor, but not the Bachelorette. That's where 2678 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,400 Speaker 5: you draw the gold. This is what I always say. 2679 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,240 Speaker 5: This is what I always say. It's always the same thing. 2680 01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:16,400 Speaker 4: So I'd rather I'd rather watch crazy women than stupid guys, 2681 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,960 Speaker 4: Like the Bachelorette is both of those bunch of stupid 2682 01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,960 Speaker 4: both but it was mostly like that's right, is mostly 2683 01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:23,600 Speaker 4: your dealing with stupid guys the whole time, And I 2684 01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,760 Speaker 4: think you're being nice calling the women just crazy. 2685 01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:27,400 Speaker 5: And not stupid. 2686 01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,760 Speaker 9: Well, if you enjoy that, you should watch the Love 2687 01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:30,560 Speaker 9: is Blind, Like, if. 2688 01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,760 Speaker 3: You're not there for the right reason, Love is blinded, 2689 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:35,080 Speaker 3: Love is fantastic? 2690 01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:36,280 Speaker 5: Want to go down the road? 2691 01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:40,440 Speaker 9: Was Blind is the greatest show so good on Netflix? 2692 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:41,680 Speaker 5: Season five just wrapped. 2693 01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,600 Speaker 7: That was the COVID show, right, first, Yeah, yeah, we watched. 2694 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:45,400 Speaker 5: I can't comment. 2695 01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,440 Speaker 3: Didn't see when that girl asks him if he would 2696 01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,680 Speaker 3: pay for her water heater if it broke, It's like 2697 01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:51,000 Speaker 3: my name on the. 2698 01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:55,160 Speaker 1: Deed, Adrian writes in Listening to the Hub and Hardy 2699 01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:59,000 Speaker 1: just throw a subtle jab at PU postgame show. While 2700 01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,440 Speaker 1: speaking about the Rusk missing the Bruins team meeting, he said, 2701 01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:04,480 Speaker 1: it's not like it's a two hour meeting with a 2702 01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:08,919 Speaker 1: break for lunch. Wow. Also, I'm feeling a bit nostalgic 2703 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,200 Speaker 1: and would love to hear the Duncan Coulata Paul Parolo's 2704 01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:14,600 Speaker 1: sound bite. If you still have it on a hard 2705 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,280 Speaker 1: drive somewhere, the pfw O g s will know what 2706 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking. 2707 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,720 Speaker 3: Is Jake de Brest missing that meeting is bad? Like 2708 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,240 Speaker 3: it was in La It was a meeting in the 2709 01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:26,480 Speaker 3: team hotel, so all all you had to do was 2710 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:27,920 Speaker 3: get out of bed and walk downstairs. 2711 01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 5: He didn't play in the King's Game. Yeah, how do 2712 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:31,000 Speaker 5: you miss the meeting? 2713 01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,280 Speaker 7: Well, he probably met somebody and then he was at parts. 2714 01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,840 Speaker 5: He was parts unknown. That's probably right. 2715 01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:37,080 Speaker 1: You got to keep it in line. 2716 01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:40,160 Speaker 8: I have a question for the married people and Evan, 2717 01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,640 Speaker 8: you're almost married basically, So a question this is on 2718 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:46,360 Speaker 8: love is blind and he got to dinner, who pays 2719 01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:47,960 Speaker 8: for the meal? Me? Me? 2720 01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:49,440 Speaker 1: Us? 2721 01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:53,280 Speaker 5: But it is our money but I pay. 2722 01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:55,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're both here, so it's our money. 2723 01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not I put the card out. 2724 01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:00,960 Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, that was a That was a huge blow 2725 01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:02,680 Speaker 8: up on there because the guy answered and was like, 2726 01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,520 Speaker 8: fifty to fifty every time, Like we just both put 2727 01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:06,080 Speaker 8: our cards. 2728 01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:06,879 Speaker 9: Down, that was his response. 2729 01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,880 Speaker 5: But they're not. They're married. They were married. He's talking 2730 01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:10,360 Speaker 5: about dating. 2731 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:12,600 Speaker 1: They were going to dating. I always paid. 2732 01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:14,760 Speaker 5: Now dating, I always paid too. But I'm a little 2733 01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,400 Speaker 5: little fashioned engaged. 2734 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,960 Speaker 8: Check him like when we get married out to eat, 2735 01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:20,320 Speaker 8: like who's going to pay? And he was like, we 2736 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:21,280 Speaker 8: both put our cards down. 2737 01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:22,400 Speaker 3: That was sad. 2738 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:24,320 Speaker 1: But when we get married, it's one pool. 2739 01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:27,840 Speaker 3: It's one pool, and you're engaged like it, like we 2740 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,400 Speaker 3: have one credit card that for every for the. 2741 01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:32,720 Speaker 1: House, honest. 2742 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,560 Speaker 5: But if you're on you gotta you gotta, you gotta lie. 2743 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:38,080 Speaker 7: We'd be like, well, I would like if you really 2744 01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:38,480 Speaker 7: want it to. 2745 01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:42,280 Speaker 5: Work, like checking accounts, you guys have just one checking 2746 01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:46,600 Speaker 5: Oh no, she's we have one one? Oh you each 2747 01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:47,040 Speaker 5: have one. 2748 01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just for like they have, I wrote 2749 01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:50,520 Speaker 1: a check is like years. 2750 01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,440 Speaker 5: No, no, but you have a checking account, right, don't 2751 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,280 Speaker 5: you pay your bills electronically for the debit card? Yeah, yeah, 2752 01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,280 Speaker 5: you pay. But plus you have to pay your bills 2753 01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,760 Speaker 5: just because you don't write a check bills. Yeah so yeah, 2754 01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:07,360 Speaker 5: so I think me too. I run the finance, kill 2755 01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:08,200 Speaker 5: it and that's what. 2756 01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,960 Speaker 1: Up to my I do eat checks, you know with 2757 01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:12,920 Speaker 1: Bank of America. 2758 01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's what I meant. But checking account 2759 01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:19,360 Speaker 3: is separate. We don't have one credit card, so that 2760 01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:21,760 Speaker 3: like when we go out to dinner, like it just it. 2761 01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:24,040 Speaker 3: We each put money into it. 2762 01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:27,040 Speaker 5: And yeah, I just think it's funny that Beth has 2763 01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:28,640 Speaker 5: her own checking account. And I always call it a 2764 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:29,720 Speaker 5: divorce account. 2765 01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,600 Speaker 4: Right, I'm not really my mom had one, but there's 2766 01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:34,440 Speaker 4: probably one hundred and sixty dollars in it right now. 2767 01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:37,520 Speaker 5: There's there's way more money in her checking account than 2768 01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:42,160 Speaker 5: ours makes, like fives what I make, you know, she 2769 01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:46,720 Speaker 5: should have. She's going to regret that that nurse money. 2770 01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,840 Speaker 3: I could definitely get the alimony if I needed it. 2771 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:51,680 Speaker 1: Paul's going to be squatting in the Peabody house. 2772 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:53,520 Speaker 5: With with what Fred pays me, Are you kidding me? 2773 01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:54,880 Speaker 1: All right? 2774 01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,920 Speaker 3: At least five times that at least five us. 2775 01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:59,960 Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta go, I gotta meet, we gotta meet. 2776 02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:01,480 Speaker 1: All right, We'll see you tomorrow. 2777 02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:05,320 Speaker 16: Thank you for downloading this podcast. 2778 02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:08,880 Speaker 2: Subscribe on Apple, Google Play, and everywhere else you listen. 2779 02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Like the show, please rate and review us. 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