1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: What's really good? 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Nord alls be down here with another episode, a bonus episode, 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: if you will. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Of I didn't know, maybe you didn't either. 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: And in September, under that Virgo umbrella, we were celebrating 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: the five year anniversary for a Black Effect podcast network. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: And because this podcast is all things history, I said, 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: why not take a little deep dive into where black 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: podcasting has come from and possibly where it's even going. Now, 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: before we get into today's topic, of course, I have 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: to give you three of the most useless facts you'll 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: never need, never, not a day in life. Your first 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: useless fact, the very first MP three player came out 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven. Nineteen ninety seven was a good year. 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: That's when I graduated high school. It was also the 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: year we lost Biggie. A couple months before that, we 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: had lost Park. Yeah, in the fall of my senior year, 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: we lost Park. In the spring of my senior year, 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: we lost big Your second useless fact, you even know 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: where the word podcast comes from? I bet you don't. 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 2: It comes from iPod and broadcast podcast. And your third 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: useless facts, the very first internet radio show that was 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three, long before Spotify, nineteen ninety three 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: was the eighth grade dance. I won the dance contest 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: doing the Steve Erkle dance because I wore thick glasses. 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 2: And you know what I think. Sharing that with y'all 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: just now just made me realize why Shalone danced with 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Q that night and not me. Shalone knew I wanted 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 2: to dance for her. Those have been your three useless facts. 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: The very first MP three player came out at nineteen 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: ninety seven. The word podcast comes from iPod and broadcast, 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: and the first internet radio show was in nineteen ninety three. 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Now my question for you is do you know how 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: podcasting started? Because I didn't. 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: See, in the nineteen eighties, tech nerds was already making 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: audio blogs. Then in nineteen ninety three, Carl malamud He 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: was a computer scientist, a writer, a hustler, he launched 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: an internet talk radio show. He'd interview experts, upload the audio, 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: and listeners would get the files one at a time. Now, 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: what made it revolutionary was you could listen to it 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: whenever you want it, you could pause it, you could 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: rewind it, you could skip the computer Chronicles called it 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: a synchronous radio. That's radio on your schedule, not theirs. Now, 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: by the early two thousands, when Nelly was singing about 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: Pimp Juice and jay Z was making the blueprint, broadband 49 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Internet and stuff like the iPod made podcasting accessible. Suddenly 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: audio on demand wasn't some nerdy experiment. It had completely 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: crossed over like flow ridder. Then Black Voices ended the 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: and when black creators into the space, podcasting became the culture. 53 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: Twenty ten, the Combat Jack Show that wasn't just a podcast. 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: It was a hip hop history class with first person stories. 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: Man the host Combat Jack, and every artist wanted to 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: be on The Combat Jack Show because he gave them 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: space to tell their stories unfiltered. Man, The Combat Jack 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: Show got a legacy that still stamped across the industry. 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, the Read with Kid Fury and Krizzle, 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: it was like an unapologetic humor that they just turned 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: to community. 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: They wasn't just entertaining us. 63 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: It was sort of like a cultural therapy session for 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: all us millennials that was navigating life and race and identity. 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: At that time, the early black podcast they wasn't just shows, 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: they were archives, oral history, barbershops in your headphones. 67 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: Here's the challenge, though. 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: Podcasting was booming, but it was hard to organize Black 69 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: creators in the networks that could monetize at scale. 70 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Folks, wasn't making no bank off it? You did. 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: But that changed by years ago when the boss Man 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Charlemagne to God announced the Black Effect Podcast Network at 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: a partnership with Our Heart. That was the very first 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: large scale podcast network dedicated to amplifying Black. 75 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Voices, us telling our stories. And it worked. 76 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: Forty plus shows signed on hundreds of millions of downloads. 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm a part of that number, consistently high performing shows. 78 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking drink champs, all the smoke decisions, decisions. 79 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Trap nerds. 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: Oh, let me throw in I didn't know. Maybe you 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: didn't either, or we eat that first quarter. Now the 82 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: goal is to maintain them numbers. But that's a whole 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: other episode. Look, the Black Effects shifted podcasting from individual 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: hustles to an organized ecosystem. Before I got blessed with 85 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: the opportunity to be on the Black Effect Podcast Network, 86 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: I was just putting videos on Instagram, not monetizing a 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: damn thing. Now four years later, over ten million downloads 88 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: in and we booming. Baby, I'm talking about you. It's 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: me the Black Effect Podcast Network. In the five years 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: they've been kicking it, Haydne wracked up awards, accolades, and 91 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: of course recognizing totality by the industry. I just saw 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: an episode of The Breakfast Club where Nick Cannon was 93 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: on there and that Charlemagne was giving him his flowers. 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: Nick Cannon had to return it and give Charlemagne to 95 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: God his flowers because what he's doing with the Black 96 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: Effect Podcast Network has never been seen before. Now, some 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: people joke about they should raise the damn tariffs on 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: mics because everybody got one, and yes, I agree. 99 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Podcast that is still very young. 100 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: This is like the early eighties of hip hop in 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: podcast form. According to Edison Research, over one hundred million 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Americans listening to podcasts monthly and ad revenue passed two 103 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: billion dollars in twenty twenty two. That scale, that's money 104 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: on the table, and for us, the Black creators, that 105 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: means more lanes, owning our ip of building generational platforms, 106 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: telling our stories our way. So as the Black Effect 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: Podcast Network celebrates five years. I want to salute the 108 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: pioneers who paved the road and point out the opportunities 109 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: still ahead, because the future of black podcasting is not 110 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: just loud. It's permanent. Baby, and I didn't know. Maybe 111 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: you didn't either,