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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: Who by Shack O'Brian, and I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: once again by my co host. He is Daddy from
Speaker 1: thirty six Chambers. Who Oh poop oh it's oh Daddy
Speaker 1: bastard come back straight from the I guess Brooklyn Zoo.
Speaker 1: I can't. I didn't have a time to improvise al
Speaker 1: right at aka. I am back from parental leave paternally.
Speaker 1: I will probably take a little more time later on,
Speaker 1: but thank you so much for everybody. Blowouts so man
Speaker 1: so blowouts. My god, I thought I was watching Liverpool
Speaker 1: versus Man United because it was a seven nil blowout.
Speaker 1: I think I did hear while you were out the
Speaker 1: your team's doing really well right top of the league,
Speaker 1: baby to a top league. I mean, yeah, we're eight
Speaker 1: points clear right now, the Man City. How much of
Speaker 1: your mind was taken up by that versus? You know
Speaker 1: what's funny? We were doing so well the baby was
Speaker 1: born we took fucking els like and I'm holding and
Speaker 1: I went, oh my god, I'm like, I thought you
Speaker 1: were I thought you were touring us through and then
Speaker 1: shit leveled out. I was able to accept my child
Speaker 1: again and everything is good. But yeah, I'm I keep
Speaker 1: telling everybody this, I'm not sure how to speak. I've
Speaker 1: only been speaking to her Majesty and the guys child himself.
Speaker 1: That is kind of the level of my banter. So
Speaker 1: bear with me as I get back into it. Although
Speaker 1: I might just come in on a tent. I don't know. Look,
Speaker 1: this is yeah, we're all experimenting right now. You sound great.
Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you back. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: be back, greatly missed and all and all serious. I
Speaker 1: saw all the good combinations. I remember being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll call in when Gabers is there. I didn't, Yeah
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, you were like you had big plans.
Speaker 1: You were like, I'll like check in every once in
Speaker 1: a while, yeah, like daddy man on the street. Yeah, reporting,
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, you don't do that. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about. Yeah, that comes from someone who's
Speaker 1: had a child. And I'm like, in the midst, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I got the bandwidth for all this. He
Speaker 1: did not. He did not, He did not. Miles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined for your first episode
Speaker 1: back by a very special host executive producer at Big
Speaker 1: Money Players, responsible for some of the funniest podcasts in
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, also one of our co workers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Big Money Players is our sister network. So it's
Speaker 1: weird to be this formal, but please welcome but brilliant
Speaker 1: and talented Olivia. Hello, my brothers. Hell that's too much.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I feel like honored that this is
Speaker 1: Miles is back from like paternity leave, and this like
Speaker 1: episode could worst. I was gonna say, the expectations that
Speaker 1: could be really high or people are going to be
Speaker 1: very disappointed by the end of this episode. Look, Olivia,
Speaker 1: I'm just relieved that you're the guests and it's not
Speaker 1: somebody I'm having to get to know, like from my
Speaker 1: first episode back. Like you know, we have a lot
Speaker 1: of overlapping friends too. We even see each other outside
Speaker 1: of work a lot because of the people we know.
Speaker 1: So it's good to see you and I'm relieved that
Speaker 1: it's you and I will do my best. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, we definitely have had a lot of overlapping
Speaker 1: friends and a lot of baby overlap. I think when
Speaker 1: we last saw each other may have been at our
Speaker 1: friends baby shower, and um, of course I had to
Speaker 1: take I don't know if I ever told you this,
Speaker 1: but I definitely took like a sneaky photo of you
Speaker 1: sitting I think you were with your wife, and then
Speaker 1: I did like kind of like a back sneak photo
Speaker 1: and then sent it to the ladies of iHeart and
Speaker 1: I was like celebrity spotting, and of course, yes, of
Speaker 1: course I did. I got celebrity spotting in the way
Speaker 1: I'll send you the photo. But you were like mid
Speaker 1: bite into eating like a macaroti salad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's me. And you're like, this one was drinking all
Speaker 1: the juice that was meant for the kids. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: was all men for kids. They definitely have adult back juice. Yo,
Speaker 1: this is this is really just the juice box. Juice
Speaker 1: box I was scattered about. Yeah, I want. I went
Speaker 1: to my friends like baby's birthday party. I drank all
Speaker 1: the juice boxes. There's so many juice box to the
Speaker 1: point that like other parents, like you know, someone for
Speaker 1: the kids there's like adult beverages to them. Mark, ain't drinking, man,
Speaker 1: I want these little apple juices. I never had these before.
Speaker 1: They're so small. Were they always this small? Or is
Speaker 1: that like part of this new woke Oh by the way, Miles,
Speaker 1: there's been some changes around here, this new woke shit
Speaker 1: where they are so worried about sugar. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember, I remember when the tiny ones
Speaker 1: came out. I'm like, that's for babies, because yeah, in
Speaker 1: my day, we were sipping like you remember who boko?
Speaker 1: That might have been that that might have been like
Speaker 1: just a thing that happened when I was in Like,
Speaker 1: we had a juice box. They had a juice box
Speaker 1: those called boku that was just like two regular juice
Speaker 1: boxes stacked on top of each other. I'm sorry, did
Speaker 1: Richard Lewis? And Lewis was the spokesperson, like, and I
Speaker 1: knew that at seven. I was like, oh, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that Richard Lewis. J that's definitely not a woke juice box.
Speaker 1: If you got like prime Richard Lewis going, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what he's saying, but I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: stand up, era Richard Lewis being the folks person that
Speaker 1: is not a woke juice like it goes well with
Speaker 1: a cigarette. Ye. Yeah, he's out here being like, you
Speaker 1: know what you know? I don't even I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I haven't even seen Richard Lewis in a while. I
Speaker 1: don't even know. I had to stop right there. My
Speaker 1: powers are coming back online. Give me a mon, who
Speaker 1: should we should we get for this? Who should we
Speaker 1: get for this child's juice box? How about the dark
Speaker 1: existentialist comedian Richard Lewis, who's like, isn't this like whole
Speaker 1: stand up thing just being let me, let me get
Speaker 1: let me get a screen chair really quick, justin. I
Speaker 1: just I have to hear what the how this guy
Speaker 1: is selling fucking juice? He his nickname was like I
Speaker 1: feel like the like the Prince of I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: it wrong, but it was the Prince of mean or
Speaker 1: the Prince of something like. He was a burn like burnt.
Speaker 1: Richard Lewis is coming through. He's wearing all black and
Speaker 1: with a massive mullet. He's in a darkened room and
Speaker 1: this is how he's pitching bow cou drink. So I
Speaker 1: go to a party and I got my choice of
Speaker 1: coke or PEPSI this isn't right. I want a bow coup,
Speaker 1: a seven foot blend bow coup. I mean, all this
Speaker 1: carbonation is very unsettling. I don't want to belch anymore.
Speaker 1: Belting is for babies, naturally calmly. I mean, it's my
Speaker 1: undeniable ride as a man of the nineties to quench
Speaker 1: my thirst in my own way. I want Man of
Speaker 1: the nineties. I need to get people invite me to
Speaker 1: a party. I'm bringing my own Boo bokoo fruit choice
Speaker 1: cooler from McCain. WHOA, Okay, I don't need to get dark.
Speaker 1: But when he revealed his boku, it looked like a
Speaker 1: bomb attached to his body. Yeah, I'm like, no to
Speaker 1: big Richard, Richard the Man of the nineties, what a
Speaker 1: fucking marketing campaign man I totally associated was like when
Speaker 1: I was seven, but I guess it was the nineties
Speaker 1: or maybe also shout out to him that was one take.
Speaker 1: There was no contake. Yeah, yeah, one take is professional.
Speaker 1: He's yea, our best we got, we got his challenge.
Speaker 1: Now for our next ad read. I didn't quit Google
Speaker 1: search and just to like buck up his nickname, and
Speaker 1: his nickname was the Prince of pain. The Prince of
Speaker 1: Pain is a phrase of bubble bubbles carbon you know,
Speaker 1: the nation thing it thinks carbonation is too uncomfortable. That's
Speaker 1: so funny that they steered so hard into being like
Speaker 1: a juice box for adults, that they got Richard Lewis
Speaker 1: to pick and that the that the main hook point
Speaker 1: is that you want to stop belching. Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 1: I'm a man. If you're a man, you know you
Speaker 1: hate belching. It's so rude and it's disgusting. That's for juice. Like, huh,
Speaker 1: all right, right, do a sophisticate John Stephan, What is
Speaker 1: something from your search history that is reeling about you? John?
Speaker 1: You want to kick us off? Sure? I look, you
Speaker 1: know you said you you Jack. You've been listening to
Speaker 1: a little bit of block Party the last few days,
Speaker 1: and um, well look, I'm a pretty white guy and
Speaker 1: just searched I think probably the most white guy thing
Speaker 1: I've ever searched. This happened last week and Stephen was
Speaker 1: actually present for this, but I had to google search
Speaker 1: how to get kombucha out of a laptop. We were
Speaker 1: just about to record an episode of block Party, and
Speaker 1: I spilled about half a can of kombucha on my
Speaker 1: MacBook Air keyboard. And how I knew it was a
Speaker 1: mac Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, no quick about it. Kimbucha
Speaker 1: has never been spilled on That would have actually been
Speaker 1: a first in history. I can't google it. There's no
Speaker 1: results of you look up kombucha PC spill um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I did spill a kombucha on my MacBook and
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, googling how to take care of that,
Speaker 1: And turns out I took it into the Apple Store
Speaker 1: and blockily didn't hit the board. So I only look
Speaker 1: at that. I only owe them four hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: dollars for a bad Well. The guy the genius bar
Speaker 1: would have been like, it's like the most common. This
Speaker 1: happens like ten times a day. Yeah, so let me
Speaker 1: ask kombucha. He just looks you up and down, like,
Speaker 1: let me guess, um, the I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: big portion of LA's population. That would have been like,
Speaker 1: that's actually good for your computer and don't need to
Speaker 1: take it in. You should just let it rock a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's gonna grows some healthy biomes in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about you seth and what's something from your search history.
Speaker 1: Well this, so this is something John's gonna hear this
Speaker 1: and be like, of course, and he's gonna kind of
Speaker 1: be mad at me. I think too. But I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of like uh digital like card games, so
Speaker 1: like Hearthstone, I got like way too into and still
Speaker 1: kind of am. And this is a reason development for me,
Speaker 1: Like reason is in like the past like four or
Speaker 1: five days. But I've started playing a game called Marvel Snap,
Speaker 1: and so my search term is Marvel Snap beginner decks
Speaker 1: And have any of you played the game Marvel Snap?
Speaker 1: Assuming now, I mean I'll ask John. I know the
Speaker 1: answer is John, if you played Marvel. But I have
Speaker 1: a life, Okay, well I don't. The thing is I
Speaker 1: don't like this has taken over my life. It's a
Speaker 1: very fast paced, very addictive digital card game. You can
Speaker 1: play on your phone or on your computer, and the
Speaker 1: games are like two to three minutes long, so you
Speaker 1: can play like, you know, one to four of them
Speaker 1: on the toilet, depending on kind of what's going on there.
Speaker 1: Um And I'm I'm just like hooked to the point
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, this is like going to be
Speaker 1: dangerous for me, Like there's no doubt in my mind,
Speaker 1: it's it's incredibly addictive, and you collect a Marvel like
Speaker 1: an individual card and then like that is yours. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like this is backing up into NFTs somehow.
Speaker 1: I just in my brain, I feel like it just
Speaker 1: barely dodged being connected to NFTs. But yeah, and the
Speaker 1: thing is, like, I'm not even like a Marvel guy necessarily,
Speaker 1: Like I've stopped watching the Marvel movies and like I
Speaker 1: so it's not that, it's just that the gameplay itself
Speaker 1: is like so perfectly and like tightly designed to the
Speaker 1: point where I think John would actually like it, because
Speaker 1: John's a big board game guy and likes strategy games
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. So I think there's a
Speaker 1: chance he would like it. But it's just like such
Speaker 1: a hard sell to get John past the Marvel stuff.
Speaker 1: I think, what are you talking about? Man? I love
Speaker 1: what Avengers s dot T dot A dot t dot
Speaker 1: I dot oh dot M I saw that the thing
Speaker 1: that's coming out. I don't know. I don't want movies,
Speaker 1: but Avengers station yeah, but it's an I can't read
Speaker 1: what what did you just spell? Station? Yeah? Station ad
Speaker 1: for it. I think it's I don't know what stations.
Speaker 1: I think that's a local thing in Vancouver actually only Oh,
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, it's a completely immersive and educational experience
Speaker 1: that brings visitors into the world of the Avengers. Not
Speaker 1: educational in there. They probably got like a grant for
Speaker 1: funding because they have to, I guess about Marvel. So
Speaker 1: that's true, you've learned about the entire for what does
Speaker 1: station stand for? St that's how much scientific training and
Speaker 1: tactical intelligence operative network. Okay, this is where the minds
Speaker 1: that used to work for the CIA have gone to
Speaker 1: write for the Marvel Cinematic uteraction. Like everybody's talking about STEM,
Speaker 1: we need we need our own, right, what's the acronic
Speaker 1: for us? Seven? Where did where did the Marvel Cinematic
Speaker 1: universe lose you? Because I have a pretty specific answer
Speaker 1: that I feel like it was. Um, was it Guardens
Speaker 1: the Galaxy too? I think No. I was kind of
Speaker 1: on and off. But the last one I saw in
Speaker 1: theaters because it was kind of like, well, there's nothing
Speaker 1: to do this weekend, let's just go see a movie
Speaker 1: was the last Thor movie. And it was to the
Speaker 1: point where we almost like walked out of it because
Speaker 1: we were it was just not. Maybe it's just not
Speaker 1: for us. I mean it's it's not aimed at us,
Speaker 1: maybe necessarily, but it just like really piss me off.
Speaker 1: I guess like everything about it that was loving thunder yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: um would imagine dragons. I thought I thought Christian Bale
Speaker 1: was good, but see I do have range, Jody, But Jack,
Speaker 1: where where did it lose? You? Like right around the
Speaker 1: same time with watching The Doctor strange one from Sam Ramie, Like,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this could be cool. It was
Speaker 1: like and it had like cool moments in it, but
Speaker 1: it just I feel like every time I watch one
Speaker 1: of them, it inevitably gravitates back towards a lightning fight
Speaker 1: like CGI lightning. Yeah, like evert like if I I
Speaker 1: think they just need to set an internal rule for
Speaker 1: themselves that if a giant like purple lightning portal opens
Speaker 1: in the sky, we have made a mistake and need
Speaker 1: too late, you know, go back and rejigger things, because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the beam stuff is just like it's everyone has
Speaker 1: the same power and then everyone gets hit by the
Speaker 1: beam and they're just like kind of they're just like
Speaker 1: singed a little bit. They're like fine, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like daffy Duck logic. Yeah, um so yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't like Marvel necessarily, but the game itself is
Speaker 1: like it's incredible. Like within like a day, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like taking over my entire life, and yes,
Speaker 1: all right, what is something you think is overrated? Oh? Man? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know something I think that's it's overrated is I
Speaker 1: think I might have done this in some way. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then this is just definitely I feel like the
Speaker 1: more you come on this pod, the harder the overrages
Speaker 1: because you have those like built in overrateds. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: oh your opinion, and then as you go you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm searching from overrateds. But mine is just um
Speaker 1: like getting the first the first take. You know, Like
Speaker 1: there's one thing about takes. You know, we all know
Speaker 1: about the Internet take, but also think there's an even
Speaker 1: more fairies thing, which is people trying to be the
Speaker 1: first person to have the woke opinion. And I hate
Speaker 1: saying it now, the word woke. It's it's really devolved,
Speaker 1: like we're you know, we're talking about back when I
Speaker 1: was on Mountain Zeemore and coming on regularly, how overused
Speaker 1: woke has been, and now it's become like truly a battleground.
Speaker 1: Like there's battleground states, and now we have battleground words,
Speaker 1: and woke is one of them, but it's only used
Speaker 1: by Tugger Carlson at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 1: the the rush into having like the most conscious take
Speaker 1: on something. A lot of times you just see people
Speaker 1: fumble because they didn't wait to see the situation pan out.
Speaker 1: And this is sounding very political, and it's about to
Speaker 1: get very not political in the second when I talk
Speaker 1: about the Bayonetta voice actress debacle, which I'm I'm asking
Speaker 1: neither of you have heard about that or no about
Speaker 1: about how could you think that I missed the Bayonetta
Speaker 1: voice actress debacle, But I do want to hear your
Speaker 1: take on it. I'm familiar with Bayonetta, I have not
Speaker 1: gotten into the whole culture behind the voice acting of it. Well,
Speaker 1: then the new one isn't going to have the original
Speaker 1: voice actress. And she hopped on Twitter and she was like,
Speaker 1: I had to pass on this role because they were
Speaker 1: only offering me three thousand dollars and you know whoever,
Speaker 1: you know, you know whatever. The actress that took the
Speaker 1: role just no, you'll never be the real Bayonetta whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: And the person who took the role was Jennifer Hale,
Speaker 1: who is like a very prestigious voice actor, most popularly
Speaker 1: known as the voices of Female Shepherd in the Mass
Speaker 1: Effects series Just Just the Goat. So and also she's
Speaker 1: very very like a like a union stand like she's
Speaker 1: big about sag, making sure video games go sag. When
Speaker 1: she went the voice actors struck against you know, the
Speaker 1: video game community for sad rolls, she would host you know,
Speaker 1: these talks at her own home to help, you know,
Speaker 1: non non union voice actors why they shouldn't break the
Speaker 1: picket line like she's in it. So it's a rough accusation.
Speaker 1: And then of course it eventually comes out that she
Speaker 1: negotiated a price and they and they accepted it, and
Speaker 1: then she tried to negotiate higher and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we can't pay that, so they went somewhere else. But
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, but you know, we'll give you
Speaker 1: a cameo and you know, for all that done, it
Speaker 1: will give you three K. And that was the full story.
Speaker 1: And so that comes out and you have all these
Speaker 1: people who were like yelling and like standing on the
Speaker 1: front lines to be the first to like know what's
Speaker 1: going on, instead of just being like, oh damn, we
Speaker 1: we had the wrong information and fucked up. They would
Speaker 1: they would do these this backpedaling where it's like, well
Speaker 1: it was still kind of fucked up that, you know,
Speaker 1: And to me, I was like, you put yourself in
Speaker 1: that position because you wanted to be the first person
Speaker 1: who was right, instead of being like, let me see
Speaker 1: the situation unfold. And I don't mean it in the
Speaker 1: way where we had, you know, video footage of black
Speaker 1: bodies laying on the street, and you had you know,
Speaker 1: conservatives being like, well, let's wait till all the facts
Speaker 1: come out, because the facts was the video that we
Speaker 1: all could see. I'm saying that when one person is
Speaker 1: saying something and it's truly not you know, you don't
Speaker 1: need to stand your ground there. You can just wait
Speaker 1: to see the response in that maybe you can wait
Speaker 1: that out so and rushing to get first if you're wrong,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe just say you're wrong. Yeah, stop being
Speaker 1: afraid of being wrong. And that is a take that
Speaker 1: I think I've said before. This kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of that, like on the conservative side, that story where
Speaker 1: like Ben Shapiro was trying to get someone on his
Speaker 1: network and then they were like, oh, I'm mad about
Speaker 1: what I'm getting paid, And then people took sides and
Speaker 1: then the full story came out of like that guy
Speaker 1: was getting so much money and opportunity and he was
Speaker 1: just complaining for no reason. But then the lines have
Speaker 1: been drawn and it just kind of span out, and Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to have people really want to have a
Speaker 1: hot take. I think it's, you know, that instant gratification
Speaker 1: of like, look how authentic I was. But first and
Speaker 1: then you have to be like, oh, wait, no I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that as soon as you are found
Speaker 1: to be wrong, which means you were never authentic, So
Speaker 1: you have to you have to really be careful and
Speaker 1: pick and choose your battles. Yeah, what what is something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Baths? Baths? Now, I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of people like taking baths, but but I just
Speaker 1: think I don't think we talk about baths enough and
Speaker 1: how great they are. Probably my favorite kind of indulgent
Speaker 1: thing to do to take a bath in the middle
Speaker 1: of the day if I have time. I mean, I
Speaker 1: have a young child and during the work week, that's
Speaker 1: usually not possible. But if I find myself in a
Speaker 1: pocket of time during the day when I'm alone in
Speaker 1: the house and I can take a bath while the
Speaker 1: sun is still out and it's midday, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like it's amazing. I feel like we should talk about
Speaker 1: it more. And you can do so many things to
Speaker 1: your bath. You can put basalts in their bubbles, ducks, yeah, ducks,
Speaker 1: bath beeds like smell good. It's like it's going to
Speaker 1: a spot, but but you know, you don't have to
Speaker 1: pay any money and you don't have to leave your house.
Speaker 1: I experienced a bit of a bath renaissance when I
Speaker 1: had a kid as well, just because you know, you remember,
Speaker 1: oh baths, right, is that what happened for you? You
Speaker 1: feel like it's both the ritual of giving him a bath,
Speaker 1: you know, every day or every other day. That kind
Speaker 1: of reminded me of bath and also of mister Bubble,
Speaker 1: which I advocate for as well. And then also I
Speaker 1: think just having an uninterrupted block of time alone is
Speaker 1: also in a high premium after having a kid, so
Speaker 1: that's probably part of it as well. I think baths
Speaker 1: are for people who aren't me because I like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm steeping in my filth like a tea bag. Well,
Speaker 1: this is bath. Yeah, what's the end? Okay, shower before
Speaker 1: bath is before bath. Okay, now we're talking. That does
Speaker 1: make sense, because yeah, I just like there's a little soak.
Speaker 1: See I've always saw this by going shower after bath.
Speaker 1: Interesting okay because so yeah, but then you're still steeping
Speaker 1: in your own filth for a little bit. The shower
Speaker 1: before bath had never occurred to me. Just a quick rince,
Speaker 1: you know, because also you don't have to kind of
Speaker 1: I feel like taking a shower right after a bath
Speaker 1: kind of washes the way the bath glow. I just
Speaker 1: want to get out to the bath and right, you're right, yeah,
Speaker 1: putting a little oils in there. Yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 1: just the bubble as I need the scam of bubbles
Speaker 1: to not see below the surface what's happening down there
Speaker 1: when I'm in a bathtub. Personally, that's just how I feel. Well,
Speaker 1: this is this is a call back to the thighs
Speaker 1: thing that you they're distracting. I'll say, there, it's pretty distracting.
Speaker 1: My eyes can't see the light that you shine. The
Speaker 1: lyrics to kiss by a Rose are really kind of
Speaker 1: they seem like a day dream that someone like someone
Speaker 1: trying to write a lyric as they're falling asleep. It's
Speaker 1: very strange. Anyways, all right, well, I feel like we've
Speaker 1: gotten to know you a little bit better. Let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,
Speaker 1: and um Paco. I was listening to an interview where
Speaker 1: you were talking about like what made you want to
Speaker 1: write your book, and one of the things you mentioned
Speaker 1: is that you were just looking at this world where
Speaker 1: finance is described in this really like strange way, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned that, like hell is tied into it, and
Speaker 1: so I was just like that that's always interesting, like America,
Speaker 1: America's obsession with hell, like the very early American texts
Speaker 1: of like Cotton Mather just being like we're all just
Speaker 1: on the verge of falling into hell, and like how
Speaker 1: that informs culture in America to this day. But I
Speaker 1: was curious to hear you talk about that with regards
Speaker 1: to finance in particular. Wait, before I tied into finance.
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting that you pointed that out
Speaker 1: because you guys earlier at the top of this show
Speaker 1: we're talking about that about how everything is going to
Speaker 1: hell in a handbasket because you know, scams and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I think it's really fascinating that that's such a
Speaker 1: permanent fixture in our culture, this fear of like fear
Speaker 1: of hell. Yeah, we're in hell. Yeah, my famous catchphrase,
Speaker 1: We're all in hell. I'm having a great time though,
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, the people go to hell. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a party where you don't know if things are
Speaker 1: going to go terribly wrong. Yeah. Yeah. When it comes
Speaker 1: to personal finance, and I would say, particularly with debts,
Speaker 1: what I was trying to unpack and understand is why
Speaker 1: we have such strong ties to morality and why people
Speaker 1: have this like people feel a sense of moral obligation
Speaker 1: to pay back what they've borrowed. And I can understand
Speaker 1: that kind of from an arm's length, but like when
Speaker 1: you double click on it, you can start to see
Speaker 1: like a history of like the Catholic Church and when
Speaker 1: it broke and we had that like Protestant Reformation thing happened,
Speaker 1: and it all had to do with with like with debts. Right.
Speaker 1: But then if you zoom out even further, like ancient
Speaker 1: societies have always felt like a debt to the gods,
Speaker 1: so they would do animal sacrifices or human sacrifices. They
Speaker 1: would you know, there was all this This idea of
Speaker 1: debt has been with society for I think as long
Speaker 1: as humanity has been around, and so I just really
Speaker 1: wanted to explore that. I think what makes people like
Speaker 1: my shit when it comes to finances is I'll just
Speaker 1: zoom all the way out and say like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we're just these fleshbags sitting on a rock that's hurling
Speaker 1: through space and time, and yeah, you should have like
Speaker 1: an emergency fund and stuff. That's cool, we should do
Speaker 1: that and put money chair for one k. But like
Speaker 1: your actions and energy reverberates into the universe forever, so
Speaker 1: like be about that vibe, like I can hold those
Speaker 1: two things in the same breath, but also not make
Speaker 1: it about like you're shitty because you're not following along
Speaker 1: to what God said you should be doing. So you know,
Speaker 1: and all of that just comes from being an intersectional
Speaker 1: person growing up when I grew up where I grew up,
Speaker 1: being the person that I am, being queer, and always
Speaker 1: feeling like I had to kind of negotiate or understand
Speaker 1: how people were going to perceive me and then try
Speaker 1: to make them comfortable so that I was safe. That
Speaker 1: that's a part of my upbringing and that just permeates
Speaker 1: my work, and and then the health thing, like the
Speaker 1: Christianity thing. Why are we I'm just a curious individual.
Speaker 1: And the more I learn about money, the more I
Speaker 1: try to understand anthropologically, psychologically, evolutionary, biologically, like the weirder
Speaker 1: it is, the crazier it is, the more I'm seeing
Speaker 1: that everything is super connected and it's just a fascinating
Speaker 1: thing that we've created here. Yeah, it's all made in
Speaker 1: like our own like the we built a system. We've
Speaker 1: been talking about fractals a little bit on the show lately,
Speaker 1: and like the these small patterns that then get like
Speaker 1: blown up into massive kind of patterns that look exactly
Speaker 1: the same over the course of like an entire civilization
Speaker 1: or over the course of all of history. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like we've built a economic system that mimics
Speaker 1: how the like very first, you know, people in America
Speaker 1: with power felt about themselves and with regards to God.
Speaker 1: And now you know people are like my credit card
Speaker 1: debt means God hates God is mad at me, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a three hundred years later Jesus. I feel
Speaker 1: like another parallel too, is that all finance to me
Speaker 1: sounds like priests talking, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: the like I feel like the entire financial industry is
Speaker 1: kind of there's a language. It's like learning. It's like
Speaker 1: the reason the Catholic Church was doing everything in Latin,
Speaker 1: you know, exactly, because it was like, well, no one
Speaker 1: understands this. This isn't for the peasants. As far as
Speaker 1: I can tell, CNBC is or what's the financial one?
Speaker 1: Is it MSNBC CNBC As far as I can tell,
Speaker 1: CNBC is in lighten completely, I completely like I don't
Speaker 1: understand it, and it makes me feel like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: that's above my pay grade. You guys can you guys
Speaker 1: can run all the banks and stuff like you know,
Speaker 1: like you guys, yeah, do do whatever it is you
Speaker 1: gotta do with the you know, the securities, uh stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know, so then the rest of us kind
Speaker 1: of just back out and we also take their word,
Speaker 1: like financial people's word. It's like it's like a priest.
Speaker 1: They talk directly to the money god, you know, they
Speaker 1: they personally, they have a personal relationship with the invisible
Speaker 1: hand of the free market, so you know, I will
Speaker 1: let them. I've been on the inside and it's just
Speaker 1: like mad boring. It's like so painfully annoyingly boring, and
Speaker 1: I have a very high tolerance for boring shit. I
Speaker 1: realized that about myself, and I do wonder are they
Speaker 1: making it boring on purpose? Are they just boring? And
Speaker 1: then sometimes they take a left and I'm like, does
Speaker 1: everything in society now have to be entertaining? Is there
Speaker 1: a problem with that? And I kind of feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. Like I'm literally trying to entertain people,
Speaker 1: like like do stupid shit about finance and then trick
Speaker 1: them and then be like, Okay, let me teach you
Speaker 1: a quick lesson for these five seconds that I'm holding
Speaker 1: your attention, and then do something weird and unexpected. Again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a weird. It's a weird thing that
Speaker 1: we've created. And I agree with you it definitely. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like the law where it's terrifying, you don't
Speaker 1: understand what the hell is going on, and then you
Speaker 1: have to pay somebody to help you navigate it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. In theme of a scam, in theme with
Speaker 1: this today's episode. Well, fortunately, the law experts are usually
Speaker 1: pretty kind and you know, on the up and up
Speaker 1: absolute law yours. I think they're called, yeah lawyers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: warm hearted individuals trying to do the right thing. Never likes.
Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's get into one of the
Speaker 1: scams of the day. I'm not going to ask you
Speaker 1: to explain what it means that the FED just hiked
Speaker 1: rates despite the bank turmoil, because I don't even yeah,
Speaker 1: well that, yeah, we'll just let them do that, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they know what do I know? I don't set it
Speaker 1: to the adults. Adults are doing stuff. But uh so
Speaker 1: you might remember the guy who introduced Florida's Don't Say
Speaker 1: Gay Bill. His name is Joseph Harding, and he claimed
Speaker 1: that the bill was about defending the most awesome responsibility
Speaker 1: a person can have, being apparent and therefore we can't
Speaker 1: acknowledge anything except my very strict interpretation of who should
Speaker 1: like who in in schools. Was basically his thing. You know,
Speaker 1: as a as a new parents, I want to say
Speaker 1: that being a parent means that you just you you
Speaker 1: take your kid away from anything anything that might, you know,
Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable personally, exactly. It's not really about the
Speaker 1: kid as much as it is about just like, don't
Speaker 1: embarrass me, you know. That's that's that's me out with
Speaker 1: my child at any point, just like you're being weird
Speaker 1: right now and then just making sure that no one
Speaker 1: else embarrasses my child further or me. Yeah, don't say gay,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Yes, exactly. So anyways, that same
Speaker 1: person pled guilty to committing one hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars in COVID nineteen relief fraud, faces up to thirty
Speaker 1: five years in prison. So you know, so it's so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't write it. You got to teach your kids
Speaker 1: to be on that grind set mindset, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so harding took COVID relief funds intended to aid
Speaker 1: struggling small businesses by using the names of dormant business
Speaker 1: entities and claiming that they were still in operation during
Speaker 1: the pandemic, which they weren't. The businesses were the Vacshack,
Speaker 1: which is a store selling discount vacuum cleaner bags. Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder why. I don't know, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: I was just talking to somebody about how strange it
Speaker 1: is that there are still like the places in this
Speaker 1: world that only sell vacuum cleaners, like they're just like
Speaker 1: coasting off the inertia of that being I guess like
Speaker 1: a business with good margins. But it's like, I you know,
Speaker 1: you never see anyone in there. There's like enough for
Speaker 1: breaking mortar store though. Vacuum story it's probably a front, right,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be. It's yea almost person. Yeah, but then
Speaker 1: a vacu like going being like, no, the vacuum store
Speaker 1: is actually not specific enough. Yeah, just go drill down
Speaker 1: to vacuum cleaner bags. Nope, actually still not specific enough.
Speaker 1: On the corner. Only the market of discount vacuum cleaner bags.
Speaker 1: We're ross for vacuum cleaner bags. Don't buy any of
Speaker 1: those fancy, brand new ones. We have some irregular bags,
Speaker 1: you know, going against the grain everybody else like Walmart,
Speaker 1: all these big box stores or places where you can
Speaker 1: get everything. And he was like, nah, I'm going the vaccheck.
Speaker 1: We got Hoover discount vacuum bags. We have i robot ones.
Speaker 1: So the roombot vacuum bags also crack cocaine in the back, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean definitely for sure, Joe's vacshack. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: he had another one that was a supposedly a forty
Speaker 1: six acre horse and cattle facility. Now that he was
Speaker 1: smart to keep nice and vague, so nobody really knows
Speaker 1: what that means. But it hadn't been active since twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, that's how he's showing his kids what's up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, I love the thing is now
Speaker 1: at this point, every time there is like a morality
Speaker 1: police who a self appointed deputy of morality, the morality police. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they always like this always happens. There's always something, there's
Speaker 1: always it's just like it's just it's inevitable. You just
Speaker 1: wait for it. And then it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like all the people who are just like groomor
Speaker 1: groomer groomer, and then they're all arrested for having like
Speaker 1: child porn and stuff, and you're just like it's just
Speaker 1: it's just the next legical step. You just know, it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't even it's not even fun anymore, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not even like poetic anymore. Like
Speaker 1: I used to have fun when I would be like
Speaker 1: look at that. Isn't that some poetic irony? And now
Speaker 1: I'm just like, can can we stop with the it's cliche?
Speaker 1: Now it's clich Stop with the cliches, guys, please. It's
Speaker 1: just it's almost as if if you publicly, you know,
Speaker 1: try to ridicule others about morality, it's almost as if
Speaker 1: you're trying to cover up something each and every time,
Speaker 1: every single time. Oh my god, It's like, I'm not
Speaker 1: even offended that these guys are getting in trouble for
Speaker 1: these things. I'm offended that they're just so hacked. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like, guys, get some new material. If this
Speaker 1: was pitched in a writer's room in succession, they'd be like, okay,
Speaker 1: but like we need something else. Yeah. It's just although
Speaker 1: the stupidity of the businesses that he was trying to
Speaker 1: make happen is kind of pretty succession level funny, that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could see Kendall Roy just pitching Joe's vaccheck to
Speaker 1: merge with the business. Yeah. And then on on another
Speaker 1: parenting front, end scam front. So, Sophia Coppola's sixteen year
Speaker 1: old daughter went viral after posting a TikTok in which
Speaker 1: she I'll just read the quote from the video because
Speaker 1: it's pretty it really, it just really gets into it.
Speaker 1: People are calling it the best couple of films since Godfather, too,
Speaker 1: she said, So she just opens up, make a vodka
Speaker 1: sauce pasta with me, because I'm grounded because I tried
Speaker 1: to charter a helicopter from New York to Maryland on
Speaker 1: my dad's credit card because I wanted to have dinner
Speaker 1: with a camp friends. It's you know, it's Hemingway esque.
Speaker 1: You know, like will just like go on one of
Speaker 1: those runs the short sentences and then follow it with
Speaker 1: a bunch of and then because because because yeah, pacing
Speaker 1: and this is just breakneck right out of the gate. That.
Speaker 1: She also goes on to say she doesn't know the
Speaker 1: difference between a garlic and an onion and had to
Speaker 1: google image search pictures of onions. She then like cuts
Speaker 1: a shallot. I believe she's sixteen. Cool, Yeah, she is
Speaker 1: a child. Like That's why I'm not like I I like,
Speaker 1: it's just a like I kind of am just amazed.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a little pinhole into the world of being,
Speaker 1: of being a copla, of being somebody who has enough
Speaker 1: money that you have to be like, we need to
Speaker 1: change the passwords on the credit cards again because our
Speaker 1: kids are trying to They're trying to, they keep trying
Speaker 1: to charter up. Yeah. Yeah yeah. She also says her
Speaker 1: parents have banned her from having any public social media
Speaker 1: accounts because they don't want her to be a nepotism kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll stop it. H yeah, foresight, Yeah, I mean, the
Speaker 1: only way to stop this. They don't want a nepotism baby.
Speaker 1: They gotta murder their child. There's yeah, but I mean wait,
Speaker 1: but she was posting this on social media though, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she took over she stole it parents account also,
Speaker 1: it was like their credit card and then like towards it.
Speaker 1: This this video, by the way, which you know i'm
Speaker 1: summarizing as if it's a feature film, is forty five
Speaker 1: seconds long. Of course. Then her babysitter's boyfriend shows up
Speaker 1: and she says, my parents are never home, so these
Speaker 1: are my replacement parents. And then she's heartbreaking. I know,
Speaker 1: it's like super heartbreaking. Then she asks her babysitter's boyfriend
Speaker 1: what he thinks of the helicopter fiasco, and he says
Speaker 1: that he thinks she should call it fiasca because it's
Speaker 1: like a feminine fiasco. Yeas queen. So you know, they
Speaker 1: still got it. Those Coppola's and their babysitters boyfriends. Why
Speaker 1: why is the babysitter's boyfriend there. I don't, I don't like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if at this point, if the
Speaker 1: babysitter is essentially raising this baby, then then maybe they
Speaker 1: really are her replacement parents. But it's just feels a
Speaker 1: little weird to have the boyfriend just like, hey, what's all. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just here just grabbing this play a gobbel guel
Speaker 1: you guys, uh, you know, keep keep doing whatever you're doing.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's a good it's a good
Speaker 1: gig if you can get it. Yeah, boyfriend of Coppola's babysitter. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 1: And it's it sucks because it's like I I you know,
Speaker 1: I of course I am not defending any rich nepotism
Speaker 1: babies or whatnot, but I do appreciate that Sophia Copela
Speaker 1: and her husband we're like, we don't want you on
Speaker 1: social media, and she just ended up doing it anyways.
Speaker 1: By like like that to me is like that there's
Speaker 1: some normal kid trapped within that you know, who's just
Speaker 1: like there, she's acting out in the ways that she
Speaker 1: knows how to, which is like stealing parents credit card
Speaker 1: and trying to charter a private helicopter. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: a different it's a level of privilege. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you know, we'd all try to do it
Speaker 1: if we had a helicopter to charter. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: like a regular person would be trying to log into
Speaker 1: their parents like lift account or something, right, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, So putting that into a little bit of perspective,
Speaker 1: and then also, uh, you know, I kind of get
Speaker 1: the Sophia Coupola not wanting her to have a an account,
Speaker 1: like a social media account, so that you wouldn't become
Speaker 1: an epotism baby. I think it just is like, so
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be a public figure because
Speaker 1: then then you're going to just become like one of
Speaker 1: those many like you know, all those USC kids who
Speaker 1: like pretended that they knew how to ski or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then they got yeah yeah, and then they got
Speaker 1: into like USC like and so uh, there's there's something
Speaker 1: admirable there, I guess. I mean, my grinds a grindfulness
Speaker 1: here that I'm thinking, Okay, what is the money making
Speaker 1: opportunity here? And it is an Uber for helicopters for
Speaker 1: rich people's kids, Like, oh, how does that not exist?
Speaker 1: Version though it disappears after right, I mean, it'll appear
Speaker 1: on the credit card statement. But as you know, Uber
Speaker 1: was trying to do helicopters. Oh that's right, they did
Speaker 1: have helicopters. What they were trying to have the route
Speaker 1: be right over um, the one ten, like the same
Speaker 1: route where that one it's like on the one ten
Speaker 1: I think where there's like a train there that takes
Speaker 1: you to I don't know where that goes because they don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there is a train in the middle of the
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was
Speaker 1: gonna so I guess they everything goes around that because
Speaker 1: they don't want to contribute to like noise pollution. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: which because there's only like forty helicopters every hour going
Speaker 1: every house in Los Angeles because of the LAPD. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they just circle sometimes sometimes I just like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're bored, You're not fool of me. This isn't who
Speaker 1: are you looking for? Who? Could you possibly be looking
Speaker 1: for you know what I mean, like helicopter important? Yeah,
Speaker 1: very absolutely. Yeah. It's like we care so much about
Speaker 1: catching poor people that we are going to flash this
Speaker 1: helicopter's bright ass light into people's house. Is he there?
Speaker 1: Jack fucking h Those guys the ultimate flex. So that's
Speaker 1: why we can't blame Sophia Coppola's daughter for wanting to
Speaker 1: totally take a take a helicopter. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble with your audience. Obviously
Speaker 1: a cab. All couples are bastards, but I do feel
Speaker 1: for I mean, she's sixteen's yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not passing any judgment, no judge. What a what
Speaker 1: a world we live in. Let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back right after that. And we're back
Speaker 1: and when it rains, it pours. We we've been highlighting
Speaker 1: you know, the Air Jordan origin stories coming out. There
Speaker 1: was a BlackBerry origin story trailer that dropped earlier last
Speaker 1: week that actually looked fun. People seem like on board
Speaker 1: with this Tetris one. It's, you know, a very cool story,
Speaker 1: so like that this seems to be not just a
Speaker 1: couple isolated incidents, but like you know, we've been saying,
Speaker 1: like it makes sense that brands would be the new
Speaker 1: movie protagonist. They're like what we're going to have in
Speaker 1: so superhero movies because or you know, what we have
Speaker 1: instead of like the royals that Shakespeare wrote about, We
Speaker 1: have brands because brands, actually corporations are the thing that
Speaker 1: makes all the decisions that rule us, which is why
Speaker 1: like succession is popular. It's like, these are the things
Speaker 1: that control our lives. They're American dynasties. Yes. And so
Speaker 1: with all of that said, news of the latest one
Speaker 1: we knew we we had heard that this was in
Speaker 1: the works early on, but they actually just premiered the
Speaker 1: Flame and Hot Cheetos origin story at south By Southwest,
Speaker 1: and people seem to be on board. People are like,
Speaker 1: it's actually really fun, y'all. Yeah, sorry, which is also
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing about Air and what I'm hearing about
Speaker 1: the BlackBerry movie and the Tetris movie is like that, sorry,
Speaker 1: this is just who we are unfortunately, Like this is
Speaker 1: that this is what a good movie is now. And
Speaker 1: you know, I liked the Social Network. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I think it makes sense, you know, we are
Speaker 1: this uh we were. We're so consumed by brands now
Speaker 1: right yecause we're like locked in on the on the Internet.
Speaker 1: And I think some good can come from from movies
Speaker 1: like this, like Air and So, where you kind of
Speaker 1: dehumanize the brand, where you're like, no, this is an
Speaker 1: idea made up of people and these are the people
Speaker 1: behind it. Because there's this weirdness when you see brands
Speaker 1: of social media and like the brand managers running the
Speaker 1: account and doing memes that it gives these brands a
Speaker 1: personality person yeah, And I feel like movies like these
Speaker 1: can actually work against that hopefully and be like nope,
Speaker 1: this is a company and this is the people behind it.
Speaker 1: And I think Social Network is a great idea because
Speaker 1: I feel like that movie was the downfall of the
Speaker 1: like making you know, Mark Zuckerberg seemed cool. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like that once that movie came out, people were like, oh, yes,
Speaker 1: kind of a dick and he hasn't it made me
Speaker 1: seem more charismatic than he really is, because Jesse Eisenberg
Speaker 1: is like an actor who's very charismatic on scree. But
Speaker 1: it also was like, yeah, but like what this dude
Speaker 1: decided ultimately to do was big and vast and fucked up,
Speaker 1: like real fucked up and you know, not something that
Speaker 1: he probably won to approve. Like that's you know, I
Speaker 1: think best case scenario. It gives us more insights. Like
Speaker 1: that worst case scenario, though, we're like getting to see
Speaker 1: these people making corporate decisions and like they're being like
Speaker 1: made into heroes while like the things that make those
Speaker 1: corporate decisions possible is like you know, grinding lower paid
Speaker 1: workers to you know, and just you know, people being
Speaker 1: threatened with starvation and lack of healthcare. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: work around the clock. Yeah, And I'm actually here for this,
Speaker 1: like we're are you alluded to this earlier Jack about
Speaker 1: there's like a big allegedly caveat with the origin story
Speaker 1: about the full truthfulness of it or not, And actually
Speaker 1: we should just talk about that before I give my
Speaker 1: point about sure. Yeah, So this movie, the Flame and
Speaker 1: Hot Cheetos movie, is the story of a somebody who
Speaker 1: I think was like framed as a custodian in the
Speaker 1: original origin story who worked for Friedo Lay and was
Speaker 1: just like a big fan of their work and was
Speaker 1: also you know, a tinkerer, had a little shed in
Speaker 1: his backyard so Richard Montanez is his name, and he
Speaker 1: basically tells the story that he, you know, worked for
Speaker 1: Freedo Lay in like a custodial capacity or was like,
Speaker 1: you know, a lower level worker. I think it was
Speaker 1: first pitched as like he was a custodian and then
Speaker 1: tinkered with these flavors, like putting elote like Mexican you know,
Speaker 1: the Mexican street food of elote, of like grilled corn
Speaker 1: with lime and chili, and he was like, what if
Speaker 1: we put those spices on Cheetos, Like what like these
Speaker 1: would be good? And then like it was so good
Speaker 1: that he then like brought it to the Freedo Lay
Speaker 1: CEO at the time, Roger Enrico, and he was like,
Speaker 1: this is brilliant and flaming hot Cheetos was born. Except
Speaker 1: for the fact that Friedo Lay claims like none of
Speaker 1: that is true, and I still don't know like where
Speaker 1: I fall on this, Like somebody want to see somebody
Speaker 1: to do like a real deep dive into yeah, what
Speaker 1: part of it is true? Because obviously, like Friedo Lay
Speaker 1: is not going to want to be overshadowed or also
Speaker 1: like legally liable to like pay this person more than
Speaker 1: what they have already paid. So they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: actually it was it was being test marketed already when
Speaker 1: he claims to have come up with this idea and
Speaker 1: just like real like their story seems to want it
Speaker 1: both ways. They're like, we came up with this idea
Speaker 1: and it's a very boring story of like test kitchens
Speaker 1: and marketing and and none of his thing is true,
Speaker 1: but we love him and we're here to celebrate Richard
Speaker 1: and he contributed in some way, but not a way
Speaker 1: that's legally liable to us, Like, yeah, I'm actually here
Speaker 1: for this, like because you know how many examples of
Speaker 1: whitewashing do we have where we find out the person
Speaker 1: who really invented something was from a marginalized community while
Speaker 1: some landowning white man claimed all the credit. So so
Speaker 1: and also to their credit, they're even willing to I
Speaker 1: guess they added in lines where they poke fun, like
Speaker 1: narrative lines where they poke fun at this maybe not
Speaker 1: being all the way true necessarily, which is much more
Speaker 1: than my history books ever did. So I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is a good like you know, if
Speaker 1: sure fictionalized more origin stories of companies or take all
Speaker 1: the white people out of it, put more black and
Speaker 1: brown people and people of color in there, people from
Speaker 1: marginalized communities, and say they did it, And I don't
Speaker 1: care if it's a lie. I like the representation. It's
Speaker 1: more than what we've had before. So yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like seeing this. Yeah, no, I I yeah. I'm always
Speaker 1: wary of companies being like, no, that's not true. We
Speaker 1: were doing the test kitchen. I was like, okay, who
Speaker 1: is the head chef? Who was it? Because it was
Speaker 1: a white person, then his story still stands because a
Speaker 1: white person like pull that from his culture, you know,
Speaker 1: where it's like it's like the cool show us the receipts,
Speaker 1: because you know, usually that's how they response the white
Speaker 1: guy's idea of mayonnaise cheetos. Yeah, instead they're like, take
Speaker 1: my word for it. Please, how about we dumped the
Speaker 1: cheetos and milk. Yeah, I'm just a little worried that
Speaker 1: these cheetos are gonna be too spicy and they're gonna
Speaker 1: cause people to masterbate, which was that that's one so
Speaker 1: we'll get to it. Yeah, because that's where corn flakes
Speaker 1: came from, was them being like, we need to create
Speaker 1: a food so bland that it will make kids stop
Speaker 1: jerking on ye, but yeah, it's a it's a mess,
Speaker 1: but like this is apparently a messy fun movie that
Speaker 1: like relishes in certain exaggerations. It's less the founder and
Speaker 1: more like it's got some adaptation like vibes to it
Speaker 1: where you don't know really what to believe, but it's
Speaker 1: it's a little bit fun and I'm I'm I'm happy
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, this seems like a fun way to
Speaker 1: approach that. And apparently Ablongoria doing a doing some pretty
Speaker 1: good work and her directorial debut, so that's that's exciting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and these movies can be fun. We already pointed out,
Speaker 1: like you know, the Mighty Ducks. I had fun with
Speaker 1: that when I was a child. That's kind of what
Speaker 1: you know, It's it's more about like team and stuff,
Speaker 1: but there's branding all over that shit. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mighty Ducks, Angels in the Outfield of course, the true
Speaker 1: story behind the formation of the California Angels baseball team.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like there is a pretty good track
Speaker 1: record with these movies, like Moneyball I would put in
Speaker 1: this category because it's like telling the purported true story
Speaker 1: behind like the Oakland A's like like relevance. They didn't
Speaker 1: even win anything, but they were like relevant for a
Speaker 1: period of time when they had a very low payroll
Speaker 1: social network. Ford versus Ferrari was I think the most
Speaker 1: recent example of this. That was, like Oscar nominated the
Speaker 1: founder all the Steve Jobs movies. Like that, the genre
Speaker 1: of Steve Jobs movies becoming, yeah, its own thing. So
Speaker 1: that leads me to the question of, like we already
Speaker 1: pitched lunchables, like the lunchable story told from the perspective
Speaker 1: of because that was like Oscar Meyer was like, nobody
Speaker 1: wants to eat hot dogs and bologna anymore. What do
Speaker 1: we do? And they invented lunchables and became it became
Speaker 1: like one of the most profitable thing in foods, but
Speaker 1: also gave a bunch of people horrible health issues because
Speaker 1: it's one of the least healthy foods ever pawned off
Speaker 1: like sold two children. But I I could definitely see,
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of surprised that I haven't already heard
Speaker 1: about a Coca Cola origin story movie that they must
Speaker 1: just be being very precious with that. But the origin
Speaker 1: story of Coca Cola is like has to be the
Speaker 1: Holy grill of these movies because it was invented by
Speaker 1: a heroine or like morphine addict who like veteran of
Speaker 1: the Civil War where everybody came out of that war
Speaker 1: addicted to morphine because they were all, you know, shot
Speaker 1: up and in so much pain. I can I can
Speaker 1: imagine maybe Coca Cola doesn't want to be associated with
Speaker 1: the breaking bad type character, but I think they should
Speaker 1: poke fun at them. They would have so much respect
Speaker 1: for them if they did it. Yeah, yeah, And like
Speaker 1: so at that time, one of the treatments for morphine
Speaker 1: addiction was cocaine. They're like, try this this healthy drug
Speaker 1: and that's where he found out about cocaine and how
Speaker 1: he started putting it in his beverage and just you know,
Speaker 1: the immediate, it out of control popularity of Coca Cola
Speaker 1: because it had cocaine and it people were like, give
Speaker 1: me a, give me a. I think they would call
Speaker 1: it a dope at the time, and it would be
Speaker 1: like three three times stronger than it was meant to be.
Speaker 1: They would just like put extra extra syrup in it
Speaker 1: and people would just run around high out of their mind.
Speaker 1: It's the most American thing that's ever happened, like the
Speaker 1: whole pulling yourself up from your bootstraps, capitalism, drug induced mania,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta love it. Yeah, somebody like this
Speaker 1: might need to be its own, like long running HBO
Speaker 1: series or something, because there's there's a lot of story there. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And then the Elon Musk of course, like the Elon
Speaker 1: Musk movies probably you know, fifteen twenty years from now,
Speaker 1: are going to be coming twenty twenty four, relentlessly coming it. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's shopping it around right now. I also, and on
Speaker 1: a serious note, I did we I pitched the Patagonia
Speaker 1: movie at the beginning of the record session just because, like,
Speaker 1: that guy has an interesting legacy. I'm not fully immersed
Speaker 1: in everything that happened there. I just know some people
Speaker 1: in the area that he took over in Chile. He
Speaker 1: bought a lot of property with the intention of preserving
Speaker 1: this area and making it pristine. And you know the
Speaker 1: guy who owned it was, you know, this rich white
Speaker 1: guy who was buying land in the country with indigenous
Speaker 1: folks who were skeptical of him. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff there. There's environmentalism, there's activism, there's capitalism, there's
Speaker 1: adventure because that guy was going all around. I keep
Speaker 1: saying that guy because I don't know his name, but
Speaker 1: you know, he was climbing mountains, he was kayaking. There's
Speaker 1: a whole like fantastical like Yellowstone type of movie in
Speaker 1: there somewhere. Yeah, he left the company to the employees,
Speaker 1: I thought earlier, yeah, something, and then he died tragically
Speaker 1: while he was like he would think he was kayaking
Speaker 1: on a river and drowned or something. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a fascinating story there. Yeah, how about you if if
Speaker 1: any like pitches for brands, I mean, there's got to
Speaker 1: be some good like the invention of the I want
Speaker 1: the Mountain Dew story story from their Mountain ale to
Speaker 1: X games, you know, and it'll be like it'll be
Speaker 1: like a like a like a Triple X action extreme
Speaker 1: sports from Moonshine to kick Flips. I love ya, like
Speaker 1: the Moonshiners. I mean that is actually the origin of
Speaker 1: NASCAR is true, like people running Moonshine around in those
Speaker 1: cars that looked like that and evading the police. So
Speaker 1: I mean NASCAR and Mountain Dew could have a great
Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah yeah, oh hell yeah, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: Green lighted Hollywood taking our idea. There you go, you know.
Speaker 1: And also this is a very uh a, a very
Speaker 1: specific an extremely specific point of of hitting this up.
Speaker 1: But there was a thing where there was this company
Speaker 1: called Chatters in Utah, and it was basically a bootleg
Speaker 1: in and Out because at the time, In and Out
Speaker 1: only was in California, and I think Las Vegas those
Speaker 1: were the like it was. It was being like, we're
Speaker 1: a California restaurant, and so they made the bootleg Chatters,
Speaker 1: and In and Out sued them. I think they tried
Speaker 1: to have the defense of like, well, in and Out
Speaker 1: only exists in California, and so in and Out basically
Speaker 1: made an in and out in Utah after that case.
Speaker 1: And now that there's one in and Out that's in
Speaker 1: Utah because of this Chatters. So it's like instead of
Speaker 1: the founder, it's like the origin story of McDowell's, Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: it's like version if you build it, they would come
Speaker 1: type bund edible in Utah is fascinating, like just all
Speaker 1: the all the weird culture that that pop you up
Speaker 1: there floating soda shop from food too. Yeah, yeah, all right,
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