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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: Who by Shack O'Brian, and I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: once again by my co host. He is Daddy from

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Speaker 1: thirty six Chambers. Who Oh poop oh it's oh Daddy

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Speaker 1: bastard come back straight from the I guess Brooklyn Zoo.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I didn't have a time to improvise al

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Speaker 1: right at aka. I am back from parental leave paternally.

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Speaker 1: I will probably take a little more time later on,

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Speaker 1: but thank you so much for everybody. Blowouts so man

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Speaker 1: so blowouts. My god, I thought I was watching Liverpool

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Speaker 1: versus Man United because it was a seven nil blowout.

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Speaker 1: I think I did hear while you were out the

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Speaker 1: your team's doing really well right top of the league,

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Speaker 1: baby to a top league. I mean, yeah, we're eight

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Speaker 1: points clear right now, the Man City. How much of

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Speaker 1: your mind was taken up by that versus? You know

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Speaker 1: what's funny? We were doing so well the baby was

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Speaker 1: born we took fucking els like and I'm holding and

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Speaker 1: I went, oh my god, I'm like, I thought you

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Speaker 1: were I thought you were touring us through and then

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Speaker 1: shit leveled out. I was able to accept my child

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Speaker 1: again and everything is good. But yeah, I'm I keep

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Speaker 1: telling everybody this, I'm not sure how to speak. I've

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Speaker 1: only been speaking to her Majesty and the guys child himself.

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Speaker 1: That is kind of the level of my banter. So

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Speaker 1: bear with me as I get back into it. Although

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Speaker 1: I might just come in on a tent. I don't know. Look,

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Speaker 1: this is yeah, we're all experimenting right now. You sound great.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you back. I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: be back, greatly missed and all and all serious. I

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Speaker 1: saw all the good combinations. I remember being like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll call in when Gabers is there. I didn't, Yeah

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Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, you were like you had big plans.

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Speaker 1: You were like, I'll like check in every once in

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Speaker 1: a while, yeah, like daddy man on the street. Yeah, reporting,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, you don't do that. What

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Speaker 1: are you talking about. Yeah, that comes from someone who's

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Speaker 1: had a child. And I'm like, in the midst, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I got the bandwidth for all this. He

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Speaker 1: did not. He did not, He did not. Miles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined for your first episode

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Speaker 1: back by a very special host executive producer at Big

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Speaker 1: Money Players, responsible for some of the funniest podcasts in

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Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, also one of our co workers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Big Money Players is our sister network. So it's

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Speaker 1: weird to be this formal, but please welcome but brilliant

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Speaker 1: and talented Olivia. Hello, my brothers. Hell that's too much.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I feel like honored that this is

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Speaker 1: Miles is back from like paternity leave, and this like

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Speaker 1: episode could worst. I was gonna say, the expectations that

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Speaker 1: could be really high or people are going to be

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Speaker 1: very disappointed by the end of this episode. Look, Olivia,

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Speaker 1: I'm just relieved that you're the guests and it's not

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Speaker 1: somebody I'm having to get to know, like from my

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Speaker 1: first episode back. Like you know, we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of overlapping friends too. We even see each other outside

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Speaker 1: of work a lot because of the people we know.

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Speaker 1: So it's good to see you and I'm relieved that

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Speaker 1: it's you and I will do my best. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, we definitely have had a lot of overlapping

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Speaker 1: we last saw each other may have been at our

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Speaker 1: friends baby shower, and um, of course I had to

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Speaker 1: take I don't know if I ever told you this,

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Speaker 1: but I definitely took like a sneaky photo of you

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Speaker 1: I did like kind of like a back sneak photo

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Speaker 1: and then sent it to the ladies of iHeart and

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Speaker 1: I was like celebrity spotting, and of course, yes, of

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Speaker 1: course I did. I got celebrity spotting in the way

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Speaker 1: I'll send you the photo. But you were like mid

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Speaker 1: bite into eating like a macaroti salad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's me. And you're like, this one was drinking all

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Speaker 1: the juice that was meant for the kids. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: was all men for kids. They definitely have adult back juice. Yo,

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Speaker 1: this is this is really just the juice box. Juice

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Speaker 1: the kids there's like adult beverages to them. Mark, ain't drinking, man,

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Speaker 1: I want these little apple juices. I never had these before.

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Speaker 1: They're so small. Were they always this small? Or is

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Speaker 1: that like part of this new woke Oh by the way, Miles,

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Speaker 1: there's been some changes around here, this new woke shit

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Speaker 1: we had a juice box. They had a juice box

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Speaker 1: those called boku that was just like two regular juice

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Speaker 1: boxes stacked on top of each other. I'm sorry, did

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Speaker 1: that Richard Lewis. J that's definitely not a woke juice box.

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Speaker 1: If you got like prime Richard Lewis going, I don't

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Speaker 1: stand up, era Richard Lewis being the folks person that

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Speaker 1: is not a woke juice like it goes well with

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Speaker 1: a cigarette. Ye. Yeah, he's out here being like, you

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Speaker 1: know what you know? I don't even I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't even seen Richard Lewis in a while. I

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Speaker 1: powers are coming back online. Give me a mon, who

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Speaker 1: should we should we get for this? Who should we

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Speaker 1: get for this child's juice box? How about the dark

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Speaker 1: existentialist comedian Richard Lewis, who's like, isn't this like whole

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Speaker 1: stand up thing just being let me, let me get

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Speaker 1: just I have to hear what the how this guy

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Speaker 1: feel like the like the Prince of I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: Richard Lewis is coming through. He's wearing all black and

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Speaker 1: this is how he's pitching bow cou drink. So I

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Speaker 1: coke or PEPSI this isn't right. I want a bow coup,

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Speaker 1: a seven foot blend bow coup. I mean, all this

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Speaker 1: But when he revealed his boku, it looked like a

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Speaker 1: big Richard, Richard the Man of the nineties, what a

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Speaker 1: There was no contake. Yeah, yeah, one take is professional.

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Speaker 1: He's yea, our best we got, we got his challenge.

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Speaker 1: Now for our next ad read. I didn't quit Google

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Speaker 1: search and just to like buck up his nickname, and

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Speaker 1: his nickname was the Prince of pain. The Prince of

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Speaker 1: Pain is a phrase of bubble bubbles carbon you know,

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Speaker 1: the nation thing it thinks carbonation is too uncomfortable. That's

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Speaker 1: so funny that they steered so hard into being like

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Speaker 1: hate belching. It's so rude and it's disgusting. That's for juice. Like, huh,

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Speaker 1: all right, right, do a sophisticate John Stephan, What is

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Speaker 1: something from your search history that is reeling about you? John?

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Speaker 1: You want to kick us off? Sure? I look, you

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Speaker 1: know you said you you Jack. You've been listening to

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Speaker 1: a little bit of block Party the last few days,

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Speaker 1: and um, well look, I'm a pretty white guy and

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Speaker 1: how to get kombucha out of a laptop. We were

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Speaker 1: that's actually good for your computer and don't need to

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Speaker 1: how about you seth and what's something from your search history.

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Speaker 1: Well this, so this is something John's gonna hear this

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Speaker 1: like Hearthstone, I got like way too into and still

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Speaker 1: five days. But I've started playing a game called Marvel Snap,

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Speaker 1: and so my search term is Marvel Snap beginner decks

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Speaker 1: And have any of you played the game Marvel Snap?

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Speaker 1: Assuming now, I mean I'll ask John. I know the

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Speaker 1: answer is John, if you played Marvel. But I have

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Speaker 1: don't like this has taken over my life. It's a

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Speaker 1: very fast paced, very addictive digital card game. You can

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Speaker 1: can play like, you know, one to four of them

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Speaker 1: on the toilet, depending on kind of what's going on there.

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Speaker 1: Um And I'm I'm just like hooked to the point

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Speaker 1: dangerous for me, Like there's no doubt in my mind,

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Speaker 1: it's it's incredibly addictive, and you collect a Marvel like

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Speaker 1: finance is described in this really like strange way, and

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Speaker 1: you mentioned that, like hell is tied into it, and

425
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: so I was just like that that's always interesting, like America,

426
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: America's obsession with hell, like the very early American texts

427
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: of like Cotton Mather just being like we're all just

428
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: on the verge of falling into hell, and like how

429
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: that informs culture in America to this day. But I

430
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: was curious to hear you talk about that with regards

431
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: to finance in particular. Wait, before I tied into finance.

432
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting that you pointed that out

433
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: because you guys earlier at the top of this show

434
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about that about how everything is going to

435
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: hell in a handbasket because you know, scams and stuff.

436
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: So I think it's really fascinating that that's such a

437
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: permanent fixture in our culture, this fear of like fear

438
00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: of hell. Yeah, we're in hell. Yeah, my famous catchphrase,

439
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: We're all in hell. I'm having a great time though,

440
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, the people go to hell. Yeah, it's

441
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: like a party where you don't know if things are

442
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: going to go terribly wrong. Yeah. Yeah. When it comes

443
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: to personal finance, and I would say, particularly with debts,

444
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: what I was trying to unpack and understand is why

445
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: we have such strong ties to morality and why people

446
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: have this like people feel a sense of moral obligation

447
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: to pay back what they've borrowed. And I can understand

448
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: that kind of from an arm's length, but like when

449
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: you double click on it, you can start to see

450
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: like a history of like the Catholic Church and when

451
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: it broke and we had that like Protestant Reformation thing happened,

452
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 1: and it all had to do with with like with debts. Right.

453
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: But then if you zoom out even further, like ancient

454
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: societies have always felt like a debt to the gods,

455
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: so they would do animal sacrifices or human sacrifices. They

456
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: would you know, there was all this This idea of

457
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: debt has been with society for I think as long

458
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: as humanity has been around, and so I just really

459
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: wanted to explore that. I think what makes people like

460
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: my shit when it comes to finances is I'll just

461
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: zoom all the way out and say like, hey, guys,

462
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: we're just these fleshbags sitting on a rock that's hurling

463
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: through space and time, and yeah, you should have like

464
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: an emergency fund and stuff. That's cool, we should do

465
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: that and put money chair for one k. But like

466
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: your actions and energy reverberates into the universe forever, so

467
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: like be about that vibe, like I can hold those

468
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 1: two things in the same breath, but also not make

469
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: it about like you're shitty because you're not following along

470
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: to what God said you should be doing. So you know,

471
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: and all of that just comes from being an intersectional

472
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: person growing up when I grew up where I grew up,

473
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: being the person that I am, being queer, and always

474
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: feeling like I had to kind of negotiate or understand

475
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: how people were going to perceive me and then try

476
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: to make them comfortable so that I was safe. That

477
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: that's a part of my upbringing and that just permeates

478
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: my work, and and then the health thing, like the

479
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: Christianity thing. Why are we I'm just a curious individual.

480
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: And the more I learn about money, the more I

481
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: try to understand anthropologically, psychologically, evolutionary, biologically, like the weirder

482
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: it is, the crazier it is, the more I'm seeing

483
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: that everything is super connected and it's just a fascinating

484
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: thing that we've created here. Yeah, it's all made in

485
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: like our own like the we built a system. We've

486
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: been talking about fractals a little bit on the show lately,

487
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: and like the these small patterns that then get like

488
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: blown up into massive kind of patterns that look exactly

489
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: the same over the course of like an entire civilization

490
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: or over the course of all of history. And yeah,

491
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: it feels like we've built a economic system that mimics

492
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: how the like very first, you know, people in America

493
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: with power felt about themselves and with regards to God.

494
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: And now you know people are like my credit card

495
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: debt means God hates God is mad at me, you know,

496
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: it's like a three hundred years later Jesus. I feel

497
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: like another parallel too, is that all finance to me

498
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: sounds like priests talking, you know what I mean? Like

499
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: the like I feel like the entire financial industry is

500
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: kind of there's a language. It's like learning. It's like

501
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: the reason the Catholic Church was doing everything in Latin,

502
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, exactly, because it was like, well, no one

503
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 1: understands this. This isn't for the peasants. As far as

504
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: I can tell, CNBC is or what's the financial one?

505
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: Is it MSNBC CNBC As far as I can tell,

506
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: CNBC is in lighten completely, I completely like I don't

507
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: understand it, and it makes me feel like, oh, that's

508
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: that's above my pay grade. You guys can you guys

509
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: can run all the banks and stuff like you know,

510
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: like you guys, yeah, do do whatever it is you

511
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: gotta do with the you know, the securities, uh stuff,

512
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: and you know, so then the rest of us kind

513
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: of just back out and we also take their word,

514
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: like financial people's word. It's like it's like a priest.

515
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: They talk directly to the money god, you know, they

516
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: they personally, they have a personal relationship with the invisible

517
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: hand of the free market, so you know, I will

518
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: let them. I've been on the inside and it's just

519
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: like mad boring. It's like so painfully annoyingly boring, and

520
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: I have a very high tolerance for boring shit. I

521
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: realized that about myself, and I do wonder are they

522
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: making it boring on purpose? Are they just boring? And

523
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: then sometimes they take a left and I'm like, does

524
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: everything in society now have to be entertaining? Is there

525
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: a problem with that? And I kind of feel like, yeah,

526
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. Like I'm literally trying to entertain people,

527
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: like like do stupid shit about finance and then trick

528
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: them and then be like, Okay, let me teach you

529
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: a quick lesson for these five seconds that I'm holding

530
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: your attention, and then do something weird and unexpected. Again. Yeah,

531
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's a weird. It's a weird thing that

532
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: we've created. And I agree with you it definitely. It's

533
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: kind of like the law where it's terrifying, you don't

534
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: understand what the hell is going on, and then you

535
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: have to pay somebody to help you navigate it. Yeah,

536
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: you know. In theme of a scam, in theme with

537
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: this today's episode. Well, fortunately, the law experts are usually

538
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: pretty kind and you know, on the up and up

539
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: absolute law yours. I think they're called, yeah lawyers. Yeah,

540
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: warm hearted individuals trying to do the right thing. Never likes.

541
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's get into one of the

542
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: scams of the day. I'm not going to ask you

543
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: to explain what it means that the FED just hiked

544
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: rates despite the bank turmoil, because I don't even yeah,

545
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: well that, yeah, we'll just let them do that, and yeah,

546
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: they know what do I know? I don't set it

547
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: to the adults. Adults are doing stuff. But uh so

548
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: you might remember the guy who introduced Florida's Don't Say

549
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: Gay Bill. His name is Joseph Harding, and he claimed

550
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: that the bill was about defending the most awesome responsibility

551
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: a person can have, being apparent and therefore we can't

552
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: acknowledge anything except my very strict interpretation of who should

553
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: like who in in schools. Was basically his thing. You know,

554
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: as a as a new parents, I want to say

555
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: that being a parent means that you just you you

556
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: take your kid away from anything anything that might, you know,

557
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable personally, exactly. It's not really about the

558
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: kid as much as it is about just like, don't

559
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: embarrass me, you know. That's that's that's me out with

560
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: my child at any point, just like you're being weird

561
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: right now and then just making sure that no one

562
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: else embarrasses my child further or me. Yeah, don't say gay,

563
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Yes, exactly. So anyways, that same

564
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: person pled guilty to committing one hundred and fifty thousand

565
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: dollars in COVID nineteen relief fraud, faces up to thirty

566
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: five years in prison. So you know, so it's so good. Yeah,

567
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: you can't write it. You got to teach your kids

568
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: to be on that grind set mindset, you know. Yeah,

569
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: but so harding took COVID relief funds intended to aid

570
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: struggling small businesses by using the names of dormant business

571
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: entities and claiming that they were still in operation during

572
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: the pandemic, which they weren't. The businesses were the Vacshack,

573
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: which is a store selling discount vacuum cleaner bags. Oh wow, yeah,

574
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: I wonder why. I don't know, that's a great question.

575
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: I was just talking to somebody about how strange it

576
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: is that there are still like the places in this

577
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: world that only sell vacuum cleaners, like they're just like

578
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: coasting off the inertia of that being I guess like

579
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: a business with good margins. But it's like, I you know,

580
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: you never see anyone in there. There's like enough for

581
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: breaking mortar store though. Vacuum story it's probably a front, right,

582
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: it's gotta be. It's yea almost person. Yeah, but then

583
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: a vacu like going being like, no, the vacuum store

584
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: is actually not specific enough. Yeah, just go drill down

585
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: to vacuum cleaner bags. Nope, actually still not specific enough.

586
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: On the corner. Only the market of discount vacuum cleaner bags.

587
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: We're ross for vacuum cleaner bags. Don't buy any of

588
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: those fancy, brand new ones. We have some irregular bags,

589
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, going against the grain everybody else like Walmart,

590
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: all these big box stores or places where you can

591
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: get everything. And he was like, nah, I'm going the vaccheck.

592
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: We got Hoover discount vacuum bags. We have i robot ones.

593
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: So the roombot vacuum bags also crack cocaine in the back, right, Yeah,

594
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean definitely for sure, Joe's vacshack. Yeah, and then

595
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: he had another one that was a supposedly a forty

596
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: six acre horse and cattle facility. Now that he was

597
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: smart to keep nice and vague, so nobody really knows

598
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: what that means. But it hadn't been active since twenty seventeen,

599
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: and so yeah, that's how he's showing his kids what's up. Yeah, yeah,

600
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, I love the thing is now

601
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: at this point, every time there is like a morality

602
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: police who a self appointed deputy of morality, the morality police. Yeah, yeah,

603
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: they always like this always happens. There's always something, there's

604
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: always it's just like it's just it's inevitable. You just

605
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: wait for it. And then it's just like, you know,

606
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: it's like all the people who are just like groomor

607
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: groomer groomer, and then they're all arrested for having like

608
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: child porn and stuff, and you're just like it's just

609
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: it's just the next legical step. You just know, it's

610
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't even it's not even fun anymore, you know

611
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not even like poetic anymore. Like

612
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: I used to have fun when I would be like

613
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: look at that. Isn't that some poetic irony? And now

614
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm just like, can can we stop with the it's cliche?

615
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: Now it's clich Stop with the cliches, guys, please. It's

616
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: just it's almost as if if you publicly, you know,

617
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: try to ridicule others about morality, it's almost as if

618
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: you're trying to cover up something each and every time,

619
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: every single time. Oh my god, It's like, I'm not

620
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: even offended that these guys are getting in trouble for

621
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: these things. I'm offended that they're just so hacked. Yeah. Yeah,

622
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: it's just like, guys, get some new material. If this

623
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: was pitched in a writer's room in succession, they'd be like, okay,

624
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: but like we need something else. Yeah. It's just although

625
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: the stupidity of the businesses that he was trying to

626
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: make happen is kind of pretty succession level funny, that's true. Yeah,

627
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: you could see Kendall Roy just pitching Joe's vaccheck to

628
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: merge with the business. Yeah. And then on on another

629
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: parenting front, end scam front. So, Sophia Coppola's sixteen year

630
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: old daughter went viral after posting a TikTok in which

631
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: she I'll just read the quote from the video because

632
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty it really, it just really gets into it.

633
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: People are calling it the best couple of films since Godfather, too,

634
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: she said, So she just opens up, make a vodka

635
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: sauce pasta with me, because I'm grounded because I tried

636
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: to charter a helicopter from New York to Maryland on

637
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: my dad's credit card because I wanted to have dinner

638
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: with a camp friends. It's you know, it's Hemingway esque.

639
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: You know, like will just like go on one of

640
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: those runs the short sentences and then follow it with

641
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of and then because because because yeah, pacing

642
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: and this is just breakneck right out of the gate. That.

643
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: She also goes on to say she doesn't know the

644
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: difference between a garlic and an onion and had to

645
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: google image search pictures of onions. She then like cuts

646
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: a shallot. I believe she's sixteen. Cool, Yeah, she is

647
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: a child. Like That's why I'm not like I I like,

648
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: it's just a like I kind of am just amazed.

649
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: It's it's just a little pinhole into the world of being,

650
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: of being a copla, of being somebody who has enough

651
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: money that you have to be like, we need to

652
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: change the passwords on the credit cards again because our

653
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: kids are trying to They're trying to, they keep trying

654
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: to charter up. Yeah. Yeah yeah. She also says her

655
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: parents have banned her from having any public social media

656
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: accounts because they don't want her to be a nepotism kid. Yeah,

657
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: that'll stop it. H yeah, foresight, Yeah, I mean, the

658
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: only way to stop this. They don't want a nepotism baby.

659
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: They gotta murder their child. There's yeah, but I mean wait,

660
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: but she was posting this on social media though, right, yeah,

661
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: I think she took over she stole it parents account also,

662
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: it was like their credit card and then like towards it.

663
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: This this video, by the way, which you know i'm

664
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: summarizing as if it's a feature film, is forty five

665
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: seconds long. Of course. Then her babysitter's boyfriend shows up

666
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: and she says, my parents are never home, so these

667
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: are my replacement parents. And then she's heartbreaking. I know,

668
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: it's like super heartbreaking. Then she asks her babysitter's boyfriend

669
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: what he thinks of the helicopter fiasco, and he says

670
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: that he thinks she should call it fiasca because it's

671
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: like a feminine fiasco. Yeas queen. So you know, they

672
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: still got it. Those Coppola's and their babysitters boyfriends. Why

673
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: why is the babysitter's boyfriend there. I don't, I don't like.

674
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if at this point, if the

675
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: babysitter is essentially raising this baby, then then maybe they

676
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: really are her replacement parents. But it's just feels a

677
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: little weird to have the boyfriend just like, hey, what's all. Oh,

678
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm just here just grabbing this play a gobbel guel

679
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: you guys, uh, you know, keep keep doing whatever you're doing.

680
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's a good it's a good

681
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: gig if you can get it. Yeah, boyfriend of Coppola's babysitter. Yeah. Man.

682
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: And it's it sucks because it's like I I you know,

683
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: I of course I am not defending any rich nepotism

684
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: babies or whatnot, but I do appreciate that Sophia Copela

685
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: and her husband we're like, we don't want you on

686
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: social media, and she just ended up doing it anyways.

687
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: By like like that to me is like that there's

688
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: some normal kid trapped within that you know, who's just

689
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: like there, she's acting out in the ways that she

690
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: knows how to, which is like stealing parents credit card

691
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: and trying to charter a private helicopter. Yeah, it's it's

692
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: a different it's a level of privilege. But at the

693
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: same time, you know, we'd all try to do it

694
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: if we had a helicopter to charter. Yeah, I guess

695
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: like a regular person would be trying to log into

696
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: their parents like lift account or something, right, yes, yeah, yeah,

697
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, So putting that into a little bit of perspective,

698
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: and then also, uh, you know, I kind of get

699
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: the Sophia Coupola not wanting her to have a an account,

700
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: like a social media account, so that you wouldn't become

701
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: an epotism baby. I think it just is like, so

702
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be a public figure because

703
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: then then you're going to just become like one of

704
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: those many like you know, all those USC kids who

705
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: like pretended that they knew how to ski or whatever,

706
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: and then they got yeah yeah, and then they got

707
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: into like USC like and so uh, there's there's something

708
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: admirable there, I guess. I mean, my grinds a grindfulness

709
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: here that I'm thinking, Okay, what is the money making

710
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: opportunity here? And it is an Uber for helicopters for

711
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: rich people's kids, Like, oh, how does that not exist?

712
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: Version though it disappears after right, I mean, it'll appear

713
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: on the credit card statement. But as you know, Uber

714
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: was trying to do helicopters. Oh that's right, they did

715
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: have helicopters. What they were trying to have the route

716
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: be right over um, the one ten, like the same

717
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: route where that one it's like on the one ten

718
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: I think where there's like a train there that takes

719
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: you to I don't know where that goes because they don't. Yeah,

720
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: but there is a train in the middle of the

721
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was

722
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna so I guess they everything goes around that because

723
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: they don't want to contribute to like noise pollution. Yeah yeah,

724
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: which because there's only like forty helicopters every hour going

725
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: every house in Los Angeles because of the LAPD. Yeah,

726
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: they they just circle sometimes sometimes I just like, I'm like,

727
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: you're bored, You're not fool of me. This isn't who

728
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: are you looking for? Who? Could you possibly be looking

729
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: for you know what I mean, like helicopter important? Yeah,

730
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: very absolutely. Yeah. It's like we care so much about

731
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: catching poor people that we are going to flash this

732
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: helicopter's bright ass light into people's house. Is he there?

733
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: Jack fucking h Those guys the ultimate flex. So that's

734
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: why we can't blame Sophia Coppola's daughter for wanting to

735
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: totally take a take a helicopter. I mean, and I

736
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble with your audience. Obviously

737
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: a cab. All couples are bastards, but I do feel

738
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: for I mean, she's sixteen's yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not

739
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm not passing any judgment, no judge. What a what

740
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: a world we live in. Let's take a quick break

741
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: and we'll come back right after that. And we're back

742
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: and when it rains, it pours. We we've been highlighting

743
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, the Air Jordan origin stories coming out. There

744
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: was a BlackBerry origin story trailer that dropped earlier last

745
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: week that actually looked fun. People seem like on board

746
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: with this Tetris one. It's, you know, a very cool story,

747
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: so like that this seems to be not just a

748
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: couple isolated incidents, but like you know, we've been saying,

749
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: like it makes sense that brands would be the new

750
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: movie protagonist. They're like what we're going to have in

751
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: so superhero movies because or you know, what we have

752
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: instead of like the royals that Shakespeare wrote about, We

753
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: have brands because brands, actually corporations are the thing that

754
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: makes all the decisions that rule us, which is why

755
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: like succession is popular. It's like, these are the things

756
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: that control our lives. They're American dynasties. Yes. And so

757
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: with all of that said, news of the latest one

758
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: we knew we we had heard that this was in

759
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: the works early on, but they actually just premiered the

760
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: Flame and Hot Cheetos origin story at south By Southwest,

761
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: and people seem to be on board. People are like,

762
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: it's actually really fun, y'all. Yeah, sorry, which is also

763
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing about Air and what I'm hearing about

764
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: the BlackBerry movie and the Tetris movie is like that, sorry,

765
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: this is just who we are unfortunately, Like this is

766
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: that this is what a good movie is now. And

767
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, I liked the Social Network. I mean, I

768
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: think I think it makes sense, you know, we are

769
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: this uh we were. We're so consumed by brands now

770
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: right yecause we're like locked in on the on the Internet.

771
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: And I think some good can come from from movies

772
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: like this, like Air and So, where you kind of

773
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: dehumanize the brand, where you're like, no, this is an

774
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: idea made up of people and these are the people

775
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: behind it. Because there's this weirdness when you see brands

776
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: of social media and like the brand managers running the

777
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: account and doing memes that it gives these brands a

778
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: personality person yeah, And I feel like movies like these

779
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: can actually work against that hopefully and be like nope,

780
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: this is a company and this is the people behind it.

781
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: And I think Social Network is a great idea because

782
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that movie was the downfall of the

783
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: like making you know, Mark Zuckerberg seemed cool. Like I

784
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: feel like that once that movie came out, people were like, oh, yes,

785
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of a dick and he hasn't it made me

786
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: seem more charismatic than he really is, because Jesse Eisenberg

787
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: is like an actor who's very charismatic on scree. But

788
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: it also was like, yeah, but like what this dude

789
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: decided ultimately to do was big and vast and fucked up,

790
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: like real fucked up and you know, not something that

791
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: he probably won to approve. Like that's you know, I

792
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: think best case scenario. It gives us more insights. Like

793
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: that worst case scenario, though, we're like getting to see

794
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: these people making corporate decisions and like they're being like

795
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: made into heroes while like the things that make those

796
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: corporate decisions possible is like you know, grinding lower paid

797
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: workers to you know, and just you know, people being

798
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: threatened with starvation and lack of healthcare. Yeah, I mean

799
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: work around the clock. Yeah, And I'm actually here for this,

800
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: like we're are you alluded to this earlier Jack about

801
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: there's like a big allegedly caveat with the origin story

802
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: about the full truthfulness of it or not, And actually

803
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: we should just talk about that before I give my

804
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: point about sure. Yeah, So this movie, the Flame and

805
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: Hot Cheetos movie, is the story of a somebody who

806
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: I think was like framed as a custodian in the

807
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: original origin story who worked for Friedo Lay and was

808
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: just like a big fan of their work and was

809
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: also you know, a tinkerer, had a little shed in

810
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: his backyard so Richard Montanez is his name, and he

811
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: basically tells the story that he, you know, worked for

812
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: Freedo Lay in like a custodial capacity or was like,

813
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, a lower level worker. I think it was

814
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: first pitched as like he was a custodian and then

815
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: tinkered with these flavors, like putting elote like Mexican you know,

816
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: the Mexican street food of elote, of like grilled corn

817
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: with lime and chili, and he was like, what if

818
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: we put those spices on Cheetos, Like what like these

819
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: would be good? And then like it was so good

820
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: that he then like brought it to the Freedo Lay

821
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: CEO at the time, Roger Enrico, and he was like,

822
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: this is brilliant and flaming hot Cheetos was born. Except

823
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: for the fact that Friedo Lay claims like none of

824
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: that is true, and I still don't know like where

825
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: I fall on this, Like somebody want to see somebody

826
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: to do like a real deep dive into yeah, what

827
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: part of it is true? Because obviously, like Friedo Lay

828
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: is not going to want to be overshadowed or also

829
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: like legally liable to like pay this person more than

830
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: what they have already paid. So they're like, you know,

831
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: actually it was it was being test marketed already when

832
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: he claims to have come up with this idea and

833
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: just like real like their story seems to want it

834
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: both ways. They're like, we came up with this idea

835
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: and it's a very boring story of like test kitchens

836
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: and marketing and and none of his thing is true,

837
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: but we love him and we're here to celebrate Richard

838
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: and he contributed in some way, but not a way

839
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: that's legally liable to us, Like, yeah, I'm actually here

840
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: for this, like because you know how many examples of

841
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: whitewashing do we have where we find out the person

842
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: who really invented something was from a marginalized community while

843
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: some landowning white man claimed all the credit. So so

844
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: and also to their credit, they're even willing to I

845
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: guess they added in lines where they poke fun, like

846
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: narrative lines where they poke fun at this maybe not

847
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: being all the way true necessarily, which is much more

848
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: than my history books ever did. So I feel like,

849
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, this is a good like you know, if

850
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: sure fictionalized more origin stories of companies or take all

851
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: the white people out of it, put more black and

852
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: brown people and people of color in there, people from

853
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: marginalized communities, and say they did it, And I don't

854
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: care if it's a lie. I like the representation. It's

855
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: more than what we've had before. So yeah, yeah, I

856
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: like seeing this. Yeah, no, I I yeah. I'm always

857
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: wary of companies being like, no, that's not true. We

858
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: were doing the test kitchen. I was like, okay, who

859
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: is the head chef? Who was it? Because it was

860
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: a white person, then his story still stands because a

861
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: white person like pull that from his culture, you know,

862
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: where it's like it's like the cool show us the receipts,

863
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 1: because you know, usually that's how they response the white

864
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: guy's idea of mayonnaise cheetos. Yeah, instead they're like, take

865
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: my word for it. Please, how about we dumped the

866
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: cheetos and milk. Yeah, I'm just a little worried that

867
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: these cheetos are gonna be too spicy and they're gonna

868
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: cause people to masterbate, which was that that's one so

869
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: we'll get to it. Yeah, because that's where corn flakes

870
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 1: came from, was them being like, we need to create

871
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: a food so bland that it will make kids stop

872
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: jerking on ye, but yeah, it's a it's a mess,

873
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: but like this is apparently a messy fun movie that

874
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: like relishes in certain exaggerations. It's less the founder and

875
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: more like it's got some adaptation like vibes to it

876
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: where you don't know really what to believe, but it's

877
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 1: it's a little bit fun and I'm I'm I'm happy

878
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, this seems like a fun way to

879
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: approach that. And apparently Ablongoria doing a doing some pretty

880
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: good work and her directorial debut, so that's that's exciting. Yeah,

881
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: And and these movies can be fun. We already pointed out,

882
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: like you know, the Mighty Ducks. I had fun with

883
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: that when I was a child. That's kind of what

884
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, It's it's more about like team and stuff,

885
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: but there's branding all over that shit. Oh yeah, yeah,

886
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: Mighty Ducks, Angels in the Outfield of course, the true

887
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: story behind the formation of the California Angels baseball team.

888
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, like there is a pretty good track

889
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: record with these movies, like Moneyball I would put in

890
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: this category because it's like telling the purported true story

891
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: behind like the Oakland A's like like relevance. They didn't

892
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: even win anything, but they were like relevant for a

893
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: period of time when they had a very low payroll

894
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: social network. Ford versus Ferrari was I think the most

895
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: recent example of this. That was, like Oscar nominated the

896
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: founder all the Steve Jobs movies. Like that, the genre

897
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: of Steve Jobs movies becoming, yeah, its own thing. So

898
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: that leads me to the question of, like we already

899
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: pitched lunchables, like the lunchable story told from the perspective

900
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: of because that was like Oscar Meyer was like, nobody

901
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: wants to eat hot dogs and bologna anymore. What do

902
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: we do? And they invented lunchables and became it became

903
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: like one of the most profitable thing in foods, but

904
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: also gave a bunch of people horrible health issues because

905
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: it's one of the least healthy foods ever pawned off

906
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: like sold two children. But I I could definitely see,

907
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of surprised that I haven't already heard

908
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: about a Coca Cola origin story movie that they must

909
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: just be being very precious with that. But the origin

910
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: story of Coca Cola is like has to be the

911
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: Holy grill of these movies because it was invented by

912
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: a heroine or like morphine addict who like veteran of

913
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: the Civil War where everybody came out of that war

914
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: addicted to morphine because they were all, you know, shot

915
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: up and in so much pain. I can I can

916
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: imagine maybe Coca Cola doesn't want to be associated with

917
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: the breaking bad type character, but I think they should

918
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: poke fun at them. They would have so much respect

919
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: for them if they did it. Yeah, yeah, And like

920
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: so at that time, one of the treatments for morphine

921
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: addiction was cocaine. They're like, try this this healthy drug

922
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: and that's where he found out about cocaine and how

923
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: he started putting it in his beverage and just you know,

924
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: the immediate, it out of control popularity of Coca Cola

925
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: because it had cocaine and it people were like, give

926
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: me a, give me a. I think they would call

927
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: it a dope at the time, and it would be

928
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: like three three times stronger than it was meant to be.

929
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: They would just like put extra extra syrup in it

930
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: and people would just run around high out of their mind.

931
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: It's the most American thing that's ever happened, like the

932
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: whole pulling yourself up from your bootstraps, capitalism, drug induced mania,

933
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta love it. Yeah, somebody like this

934
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: might need to be its own, like long running HBO

935
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: series or something, because there's there's a lot of story there. Absolutely,

936
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: And then the Elon Musk of course, like the Elon

937
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: Musk movies probably you know, fifteen twenty years from now,

938
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: are going to be coming twenty twenty four, relentlessly coming it. Yes,

939
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: he's shopping it around right now. I also, and on

940
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: a serious note, I did we I pitched the Patagonia

941
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: movie at the beginning of the record session just because, like,

942
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: that guy has an interesting legacy. I'm not fully immersed

943
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: in everything that happened there. I just know some people

944
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: in the area that he took over in Chile. He

945
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: bought a lot of property with the intention of preserving

946
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: this area and making it pristine. And you know the

947
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: guy who owned it was, you know, this rich white

948
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: guy who was buying land in the country with indigenous

949
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: folks who were skeptical of him. And there's a lot

950
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: of stuff there. There's environmentalism, there's activism, there's capitalism, there's

951
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: adventure because that guy was going all around. I keep

952
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: saying that guy because I don't know his name, but

953
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, he was climbing mountains, he was kayaking. There's

954
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: a whole like fantastical like Yellowstone type of movie in

955
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: there somewhere. Yeah, he left the company to the employees,

956
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: I thought earlier, yeah, something, and then he died tragically

957
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: while he was like he would think he was kayaking

958
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: on a river and drowned or something. But yeah, there's

959
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: a fascinating story there. Yeah, how about you if if

960
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: any like pitches for brands, I mean, there's got to

961
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: be some good like the invention of the I want

962
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: the Mountain Dew story story from their Mountain ale to

963
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: X games, you know, and it'll be like it'll be

964
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: like a like a like a Triple X action extreme

965
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: sports from Moonshine to kick Flips. I love ya, like

966
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: the Moonshiners. I mean that is actually the origin of

967
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: NASCAR is true, like people running Moonshine around in those

968
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: cars that looked like that and evading the police. So

969
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean NASCAR and Mountain Dew could have a great

970
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah yeah, oh hell yeah, that sounds amazing.

971
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: Green lighted Hollywood taking our idea. There you go, you know.

972
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: And also this is a very uh a, a very

973
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: specific an extremely specific point of of hitting this up.

974
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: But there was a thing where there was this company

975
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: called Chatters in Utah, and it was basically a bootleg

976
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: in and Out because at the time, In and Out

977
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: only was in California, and I think Las Vegas those

978
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: were the like it was. It was being like, we're

979
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: a California restaurant, and so they made the bootleg Chatters,

980
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: and In and Out sued them. I think they tried

981
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: to have the defense of like, well, in and Out

982
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: only exists in California, and so in and Out basically

983
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: made an in and out in Utah after that case.

984
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: And now that there's one in and Out that's in

985
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: Utah because of this Chatters. So it's like instead of

986
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: the founder, it's like the origin story of McDowell's, Yeah exactly,

987
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: it's like version if you build it, they would come

988
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: type bund edible in Utah is fascinating, like just all

989
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: the all the weird culture that that pop you up

990
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: there floating soda shop from food too. Yeah, yeah, all right,

991
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please

992
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like, the show

993
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: means the world demiles. He needs your validation, folks. I

994
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk

995
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: to him Monday. By