1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: It is time now for Front Office Unfiltered. 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: You can, of course check out Jim Boden's work MLB 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: analyst and insider on CBS Sports. He works for the 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: Athletic MLB Network Radio Sirius XM. He's our Foul Territory contributor. 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: The man has many, many jobs. Incredibly talented. 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Jim. Good to be with you. 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: You wrote on Friday at the GM meetings that the 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: future of Skiens and Schooble Orioles are getting calls for 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: Rushman and more. Let's talk about Skeens and Schooble for 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: a moment. Do the Tigers have a chance in heck 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: Jim of signing Scooble to a long term deal? 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: ALTA, that's a Chris Ilich question, right, It's not a 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: Scott Harris question. It's not a Seth Greenberg question. It's 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: Chris Ilich. Look, I think we pretty much know where 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: this thing has to land. 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: Right. 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Yoshinoba Yamamoto makes three hundred and twenty five million, and 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: were talking about Scooba, who's won back to back cy 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: Young Awards, and he's twenty eight years old, and he's 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: got the competitiveness, the makeup, he's a great teammate, He's 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: the full package. He and Paul's games are the two 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: best pitchers in the sport period. So you know how 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: badly does Chrisilicic won him. I mean, I think you 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: know the next offer they need to make has to 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: start at three hundred and fifty million. You have to 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: come out right away and show Scott Boris that you're 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: gonna respect him and you're gonna make him the highest 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: paid pitcher in Major league history. That's where the offer starts. 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: And then you have to see where Scott goes with that. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: Does he counter at five hundreds? He countered at four fifty. 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: You know, if you can get him done between three 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: point fifty and four hundred, I think Scott Harris is 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: gonna tell Chris Hillis, let's do it. It's hard to 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: get an ace. He's got everything we want in a 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: superstar player. And then it's up to Chris. And if 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: Chris sits there and tells Scott Harris, I'm not paying 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: four hundred million for a singular player. I just don't 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: think it makes sense. I'm not going to approve doing that, 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: then Scott Harris, to me, has no choice but to 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: trade the player. Because I'm not going to to the 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: trade deadline and get two months rental return on him. 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: And I'm certainly not gonna do what the Angels did 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: with Otani and let him get the free agency and 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: get draft pick compensation. No. So look, this is really 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: a Chris Ilich question more than anything else. I do 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 3: think s Google would stay there if he was made 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 3: that type of offer, And I think it's gonna be 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 3: fascinating to see how it plays out. 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 5: Jim the Tigers when Mike Gilich was alive, We're not 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: afraid to go out and spend the money. Why is 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: the son not acting the same? Why is Chris Ilitch 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: not doing the same. Is it because he doesn't love 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 5: baseball as much? Is it because because I know he 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: was in Seattle for Game five? He flew out there, 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: he was on the field. So does he not love 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 5: baseball the way? Does he not desire a championship the 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: way his dad did? Because to me, that was one 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: of the great things about Detroit is once Mike Gilich said, wait, 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 5: we're turning it on. I mean they went field or 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 5: they signed MIGGI Now that Meiggie deal at the end 61 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 5: was bad, but they made some moves to get guys 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: there and to try to be a competitive team. 63 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: They're competitive. 64 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: They're on the brink of being able to possibly win 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 5: a series that they haven't done in forty plus years. 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: Why is he not doing what his dad did? 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I guess we should ask 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: the same thing about how Steinbrenner. How come he doesn't 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 3: act like George does? 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Right? 71 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: But he does? He does. 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 5: He does it more though he's closer to his dad 73 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 5: than's George than the ill are he'll still spend I 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 5: mean he may, he'll spend the money. 75 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: He will, but he's more reserved than his dad. His 76 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: dad would go get Tucker and Bashett right now, Like, 77 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: come on, that's what George. 78 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: They probably would. They probably be the favorites for the 79 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: World Series. 80 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Jim, Yep, they're absolutely right. And so the answer to 81 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: your question is a lot of times the sons want 82 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: to be more responsible than their dads because their dads 83 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: didn't look at it from a business perspective. Their dad's 84 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: looked at it. I want to win. This was a 85 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: hobby for them. They loved it. I mean, you know, 86 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: George made his money in the ship building, and Mike 87 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: made his with a little Caesar Pizza and the other 88 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: things that he was involved in. And the Suns come along, 89 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: the next generation who inherited a lot of the resources, 90 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: and they tend to know not be their dads, and 91 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: they're gonna be more responsible. I think Scooble is that 92 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: exception though. And look, if you can afford Miguel Cabrera 93 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: in his prime like they did, then you certainly can 94 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: afford Schooble in the prime. I mean, look at their roster, 95 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: aj Eric and Alana for a minute. There's a lot 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: of payroll flexibility there. They're not loaded with stars. Sure, 97 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: Riley Green is gonna make a lot of money at 98 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: some point, but look, your next best player is gonna 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: be Kevin McGonagall, who's gonna be Rookie of the Year 100 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, and you're not gonna have to 101 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: pay him for three years. So to pay Schooble forty 102 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: million a year for ten years, the budget has to 103 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: scream I can afford it. So you know we're gonna 104 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: find out. I think we're gonna find out without a doubt. 105 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: But Chris, as you pointed out, yep, not his dad. 106 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: He operates differently and so I think this is gonna 107 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: be the biggest decision that Chris Ilich has made since 108 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: he took over as the control person the Detroit Tigers. 109 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: And I'm fascinated to see how this plays out, because 110 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: if he's not willing to do it, then again, we're 111 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: gonna see the biggest trade we've seen in a long time. 112 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: This winner. 113 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: That's what I want to get to. 114 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 6: What's a comparable return Because people are like, oh, well, 115 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 6: Juan Soto got this and all this stuff. We're talking 116 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 6: about guy who single handedly took his team to the 117 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 6: playoffs and made his team go as far as they 118 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 6: could in the playoffs because if he could hit, he 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 6: probably would have helped a little bit more too, because 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 6: they didn't get any runs. He did everything possible. 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, a great, great point, Eric, And I think when 122 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: you look at it, there's not a lot of teams 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: that are gonna match and anyone that's gonna give up 124 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: a load to get him are going to want to 125 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: be able to sign him long term and are going 126 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: to be willing to say, hey, I'll pay the four 127 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: hundred million dollar bill when it comes. And so, you know, 128 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: I kind of identify five teams where I think there's 129 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: a possible fit. Let me go through him quickly for you. 130 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Since you asked the Dodgers, the Dodgers could offer Emmett Sheehan, 131 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: Justin Robleski, Jackson, Ferris Zayer, Hope. Pretty good package. You 132 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: get three young starters, you control inexpensive, you get a 133 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: future All star outfielder. That's a pretty strong package. Now 134 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: you want to get more creative. What about Tyler Glass 135 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: now is part of the return. He doesn't have a 136 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: no trade clause. That would give the Tigers at least 137 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: the top of the rotation type starter back. Have him 138 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: be part of the package. Oh, you can look at 139 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: the Red Sox right. They could do a package of 140 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: early for their rotation, Christian Campbell for the infield, Garcia 141 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: for the outfield. You could run a package around that. 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: The New York Mets could offer a package led by 143 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Brandon Sprout and Jonah Toong, two starters back throwing their 144 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: Jet Williams and maybe Ronald Mauricio. That might work. Seattle 145 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: may want to offer one of their young starters, say 146 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: a Bryce Miller, and then maybe their best pitching prospect 147 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: in Sloan throwing their ford, one of their top prospects 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: Ad Morales. That might work. The Yankees with Spencer Jones 149 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: and Will Warren could start a package, but that's the 150 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: type of return that you're gonna get. You're not gonna 151 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: get a superstar back, You're not gonna get equal value back, 152 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: but you might get enough quantity where you can compete 153 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: in the future if you're not gonna spend the money 154 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: on Schooble. The best move the Tigers can make, though, 155 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: it's really simple. It's to sign them long term and 156 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: try to get it done. But if you can't, don't 157 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: get stuck with draft pick compensation like the Angels did, 158 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: because that will set you back years. 159 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 6: You said, not many match up, but I mean we're 160 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 6: not talking. You don't have to sign this. You don't 161 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 6: have to sign them to an extension. And if you 162 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 6: trade here, like you're giving up a lot. I get that, 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 6: but you're getting a guy, like I said, what he 164 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 6: can do, but you're also getting the draft pick compensation 165 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 6: at the end of the season if he gets traded now. 166 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 6: So why do other teams not match up because they 167 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 6: don't have enough or they don't have enough big league 168 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 6: ready where they're like, okay, well we get this guy, 169 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 6: and we can still the Tigers can still make it 170 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 6: to the playoffs. 171 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of teams don't have the young starter 172 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: that you definitely have to have back if you're going 173 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: to trade Schoogle. They a lot of teams don't have 174 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: those guys that are on the doorstep to get to 175 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: the big leagues. So, you know, when I looked at it, 176 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: and I'm writing an article on this on The Athletic 177 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: that'll be published later this week, you know, I looked 178 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 3: at all twenty nine teams and kind of put together, 179 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: if I'm the Tigers, what would make sense and where 180 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: the fits would be and where they wouldn't be. And 181 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: I just found those were the teams that matched up. 182 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: You know, I have to start with I need young 183 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: pitching back, or I have to have a rotation guy 184 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: ready back along with a very strong package. And those 185 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: were the five teams that I felt matched up best 186 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: for Detroit that doesn't need other teams can't match up 187 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: and can't make you know, competitive offers. 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I would be very 213 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: hard pressed to say he goes back to the Cubs. 214 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: What do you think is the market for Kyle Tucker? 215 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: And who would realistically is a good fit for him? 216 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: You know, you know, I found this kind of fascinating 217 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: talking to so many different front office executives about what 218 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: is the value at Tucker? What do you think he's 219 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: going to get? You know, I had some guys say 220 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: between four hundred and five hundred. I had some guys 221 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: say between three hundred and three and fifty. I had 222 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: some guys say high AAV but shorter term to let 223 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: him go back on the market. It's interesting because it's 224 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: a widespread and I don't know what Kyle, you know, 225 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: what he's going to prioritize. Is it going to be 226 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: the most years and the most money, or is he 227 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: going to be flexible and taking high AAV and going 228 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: back in the market and you know, four or five years, 229 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: or having a bunch of opt out clauses. You know, 230 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: I don't know how he's going to play this out. 231 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be very interesting. But in 232 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: terms of teams, where he fits, I mean he fits 233 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: the Blue Jays put him in right field. You know 234 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: he fits exactly what they like. Thirty homers, thirty steels 235 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: plus defense plus runner plus arm. Doesn't have to be 236 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: the face of the franchise. That's Vladimir Guerrero Junior. I 237 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: think it's a really good fit, and I hear that 238 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: they're really interested in him. I think he fits with 239 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: the Yankees. If I'm Brian Cashman, I want everything to 240 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: do with him. I want him over Bellinger, I want 241 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: him over Grisham. I want to have him in Judge together, 242 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: in that lineup. And again, doesn't have to be the 243 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: face of the franchise because Aaron Judge does that. If 244 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm the Dodgers, I can't watch t O in right 245 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: field anymore. It makes me sick every time the ball 246 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: sit up there. I love his power and I love 247 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: the personality, but can we just go hide him in 248 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: left field and let's put Tucker in right field, the 249 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: PAHs and center. I feel a lot better the Dodgers. 250 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: They got eighty million coming off the books. Why can't 251 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: I invest in Kyle Tucker? Complete player? Quiet will fit 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: in nicely. Doesn't have to be the face of the 253 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: franchise because Otani and Betts and Freeman are that you 254 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: know other teams says he fit yeah, Mets in right field, 255 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: but Sodo dh, I'd feel better about my team defensively, 256 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: that's not going to happen. The Phillies would be a 257 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: great fit in right field instead of Costianos, but Dave 258 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: Dombrowski's focusing on Schwarber and Ranger Suarez first. But I 259 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 3: like the fit in Philly, and I love the fit 260 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: in San Francisco. But Buster Posey goes, no, no, no, I'm 261 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: spending all my money on pitching, pitching and pitching. I'm 262 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: not getting another bat, So that's what he's going to do. 263 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: So I think at the end of the day, Blue Jay's, 264 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: Yankees Dodgers are the best fits. And I think if 265 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: you had to pick a favorite right now, it's probably Toronto. 266 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 6: Can you walk us through the closer market, because it's deep. 267 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 6: There's a lot on the free agency market. Do you 268 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 6: see one? Do you see any of the teams that 269 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 6: are in for a closer currently have a closer and say, 270 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 6: you know what, we can double down? Or is it 271 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: a case where it's like, hey, because this team X 272 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 6: has this closer already, they're not going to be in 273 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 6: on this high end. When I say high end, Robert Suarez, 274 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 6: Devin Williams and Edwin Diaz and then obviously you know 275 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 6: you have Pete Fairbanks and you have the next level. 276 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I think if you already have a closure, 277 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: you go get another one, right. I mean, that's that's 278 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: what I want. I want as many as I can 279 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: to shorten up that game. You know, if I'm the 280 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: Padres last year, I loved having Mason Miller and swore 281 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: as late late in the games. I felt really good 282 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: about my chances if I had a lead late. You know, 283 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: if you're the New York Yankees, I know David Bennar 284 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: was great for them. Let's go at Edwin Diaz to that. 285 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: You know he could pitch in New York. You know 286 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: he can handle it. I absolutely want that to close. 287 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: If I'm the Yankees. If I'm the Dodgers and I'm 288 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: Dave Roberts, I'm so sick and tired of having to 289 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: mix and match and look Sasaki they want him to start. 290 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: So if he's gonna start, who's gonna close. It's not 291 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: gonna be Blake Trinin. I know they went through a 292 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: lot of injuries. And they tried Tanner Scott. Sorry it 293 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: didn't work. It should have it didn't. I get it. 294 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: But if I'm them, I want Diez or Suarez or 295 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: Devin Williams or Fairbanks or Iglesias. So I think both 296 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: of those teams. The Cubs and Twins have both told 297 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: me their priority this entire offseason is to rebuild their 298 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: bullpens because they don't have anybody. Pelatios is the only 299 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: one back with the Cubs. The Twins traded their entire 300 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: bullpen at the deadline, so they're gonna be playing. The 301 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: Tigers are gonna be playing. The Braves have to play 302 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: after losing Iglesias. Michaelias says, the Oriels are gonna play. 303 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: Mike Casen says they're gonna play, The Giants are gonna play, 304 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: the Rangers are gonna play, and the Reds are gonna play. 305 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: They're all after that, and there's not enough to go around. 306 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: By the way, I think the closers market, I think 307 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: they're gonna get paid. 308 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: Now. 309 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not saying they're gonna get the 310 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: Josh Hayter deal, but I think Diaz wants it. I 311 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: think he wants that fifth year, and I think he 312 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: wants to beat hater, and I don't know, maybe someone's 313 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: gonna pay it. I don't know. And I was guessing 314 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: more like four years eighty eight million for Diez and 315 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: four and eighty for Suarez. But you know what, I 316 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: always try to overshoot and I end up undershooting. I 317 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: thought Naylor would get ninety million. He's gonna get close 318 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: to one hundred million, So you know, you know how 319 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: these things work. But yeah, it's a fun closers market, 320 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: for sure, closers. 321 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 5: One thing that doesn't need a closer is the Boston 322 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 5: Red Sox with what a role as Chapman did. What 323 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 5: do you see them doing? Are they gonna get Bregman back? 324 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: Are they gonna go for another starter? Are they gonna 325 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: find a bat? Is Pete Alonso maybe in the lick 326 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: mix for Boston? What do you see Boston doing? Because 327 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: they were close, but they still have some big holes. 328 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I can only tell you exactly what Craig 329 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: Reslo says. Number one goal is to get a number 330 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: two starter, and the second goal is to get a 331 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: right handed hitting corner infielder and then add some bullpen depth. 332 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: So you know that's what he's telling other gms, So 333 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: one hundred percent believe that that's what they're gonna do. Now, 334 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: what does that mean? I think, could they play for 335 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: schoobl Sure, they've got enough to get it done. Could 336 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: they play for Freddie Peroult if he's traded, Sure, again, 337 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: they have enough to get that done. Or do you 338 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: just go to free agency and try to get Dylan 339 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: Ceese or fran Beervaldez or one of those top end starters. 340 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: They certainly have the income and the revenue and the 341 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: payroll flexibility to do that. And then in terms of 342 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: the corner infielder, you know, if I were them, and 343 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: this is not coming from them, it's just me, I 344 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: would want Bob Baschette to play third base. That's my 345 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: first goal. I love the bat, I love the hitter, 346 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: I like the kid. I like him at third base 347 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: or second base. You could put him at second and 348 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: Marcelo Meyer at third base, with Story at shortstop. And 349 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: in terms of first base, you know, I think Pete A. 350 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: Lonzo would be phenomenal there. I know he doesn't fit 351 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: what they want because they want to improve defense. Run 352 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: prevention very important to Creig Breslo, But imagine Alonzo because 353 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: he plays every day, one hundred and sixty two games 354 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: each of the last two years, one hundred and fifty 355 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: two games of war five years in a row, averages 356 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: thirty five home runs a year. Great clubhouse guy, can 357 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: handle the big market. Can you imagine how many dense 358 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: he'd put in the Green Monster. They probably have to 359 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: replace the Green Monster by the end of the year. 360 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: And what would he do to Roman Anthony? What would 361 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: he do for a break, what would he do for 362 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: the middle of that lineup? Take all the pressure off. 363 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: I think it would be a great fit for them. 364 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: I know they don't love him defensively, but look, even 365 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: when he ends up being a DH in three or 366 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: four years, you're gonna have the D eight spot open. 367 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: So I think that makes a lot of sense. And 368 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: if not, you know, bring Bregman back. So, whether it's Bashett, 369 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: Alonso or bregnant I love any one of those three 370 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: choices for them, But they're going to get that number 371 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: two starter. That's the one thing I'm totally convinced of. 372 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: From Boston to San Diego, Jim, let me ask you this. 373 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: We have a fan asking this question. Owl of Minerva 374 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: wants to ask you what's going on in San Diego. 375 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: They think that they're going to blow up the team. Obviously, 376 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: it has been said that the team is looking for 377 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: new ownership. Perhaps, what do you think happens there? What 378 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: does AJ Prelo need to focus on. 379 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not blowing the team up right now. They're 380 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: not going to blow it up for twenty six. They're 381 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: going to run back as much as they can, and 382 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: AJ Preller is going to spend the winner trying to 383 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: get enough starting pitching that's affordable that can allow them to, 384 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: you know, be in the playoff hunt, make it as 385 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: a wild card and see if they can't run the 386 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: table in October. So they're not trading tatisse. I saw 387 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: a roomer out there somewhere. That's not happening. They're not trading. Oh, 388 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: they can't trade boguards because no one's gonna ever take 389 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: that contract. So you know this is going to be 390 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: the team. I think they'd like to get one more bat, 391 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: but they need at least two starting pitchers and they 392 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: don't have a lot of money to spend to get 393 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: those pictures. So AJ's got to be creative. This farm 394 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: system isn't what it once was, so he doesn't have 395 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: the trade assets that he used to have to make 396 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: a lot of the trades that he's made. But you know, 397 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 3: I trust Aj. He's a wheeler, a dealer. He never sleeps. 398 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: He'll outwork everybody. Literally, I think he gets three hours 399 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: sleep a night. So I think you'll figure out a way. 400 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: But the Padres are not going to blow it up. 401 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: They're going to go back and win. And yes, I 402 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: think the team at some point is going to be 403 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: sold and hopefully someone will come in with enough financial 404 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: wherewithal to handle all of the financial exposure. They're going 405 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: to inherit on the books and hopefully treat it as 406 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: a hobby and be able to spend more money. 407 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 6: You're in Preller's position, exact position they've just explained. You 408 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 6: need a starter. Do you go to Mason Miller and say, 409 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 6: do you want to be our starter? Because we have 410 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 6: Jeremiah Strada already that could be a closer. Whether they 411 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 6: think that or not, I don't know. But do you, 412 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 6: as a GM make a suggestion or do you need 413 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 6: Mason Miller to come to me and say I'd like 414 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 6: to be a starter, knowing how much value that is 415 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 6: for him as a start to be a starter well. 416 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: As a former gm AN evaluator. I'll tell you Mason 417 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: Miller would be a starting pitcher if I had to 418 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: say to it. I remember talking to Mason Miller during 419 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: the All Star Game, not this year, the year before 420 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 3: in Texas, and I asked him about starting, and he 421 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: basically said that he wanted to close. He doesn't want 422 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: to start. He said, I tried that it didn't work, 423 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, but you didn't really give it 424 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: enough time. You have the stuff. There's no doubt in 425 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: my mind, you can develop into an ACE, a number 426 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: one starter. I do believe that. So I think if 427 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: I had Mason Miller and I was AJ Preller and 428 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: Craig Stammon, I would be doing everything possible to try 429 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: to convince him to start and develop, because I do 430 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: believe that he could become that ACE, and that's what 431 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: I would try to do. But you have to keep 432 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: in mind that the pitcher doesn't want to do it. 433 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times it won't work. 434 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 6: You know. 435 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: We interviewed Craig Stammon the other day on MLB Network 436 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 3: Radio and it sounds like that he's gonna be his 437 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: high leverage laden and guy, and it doesn't sound like 438 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: starting it's going to be something they're going to consider. 439 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: But I'm with you one hundred percent, Eric, I would 440 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: start him if it were up to me. I love 441 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: this stuff. 442 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 5: One thing you had on your column was about Adlei Rutchman. 443 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 5: What the Orioles think about trading him for real? And 444 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 5: is it because Basiya was there and they signed him 445 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 5: to the long term deal and they're going to pick 446 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 5: the guy who they know has already signed because this 447 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: would be a large shift for the Orioles to make 448 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 5: a move like this. 449 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna get moved. I think 450 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: the reason they're fielding so many calls is there's a 451 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: surprising number of teams that are chasing catchers right now. 452 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: Usually don't see this kind of demand, and so those 453 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: teams that need a catcher, they make the call of 454 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: Baltimore because everyone saw the contract that Basio got and 455 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: they all also understand the Oriols are not going to 456 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: be able to extend Rechmond long term and he's going 457 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: to get to eventually get the free agency. So you know, 458 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: by kicking the tires and calling and trying to get 459 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 3: him now I think makes a lot of sense. I 460 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: don't think Retchman has even touched what he's capable of doing. 461 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: I've said it before, I'll say it again. I think 462 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 3: he has a chance to be an MVP caliber player 463 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: in time. I don't think he's been developed right, and 464 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: I think he's still going to get there. And I 465 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of GMS that I think the 466 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: same way. But I think Michael Ayas job probably on 467 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 3: the line this year, and I would tend to think 468 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: the only way he would trade him is if he 469 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: got so much pitching back in a trade that he 470 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 3: felt like he had to do it. I think more 471 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: likely he holds on to his position players and then 472 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: just puts all his time and effort into starting pitching 473 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: and relief help. And I think he's going to commit 474 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: at least one long term, expensive free agent starter this offseason. 475 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: I think he learned his lesson last year, as David 476 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: Stearns did in New York. You can try it out 477 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: smart people by these short term, high risk starters, it 478 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: normally is not gonna work out. So I think it's 479 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: focused is going to be on that. But I don't 480 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: blame teams for calling him on Retchman, I would too. 481 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 7: AJ, We're gonna do things a little bit differently here. 482 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 7: I am wearing the Perfect Gene and I remember seeing 483 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 7: ads for the Perfect Gene like most comfortable fit ever, 484 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 7: perfect fit on your body, and I was like, I'm 485 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 7: not buying it. Now I'm buying it, and we're showing 486 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 7: it off on FT. 487 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 5: Please please get off my desk. First of all, Scott, 488 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 5: Second of all, I was with you. I was skeptical 489 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 5: about Perfect Gene and then I got a pair and 490 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 5: the fitting was perfect and my body's not hard to 491 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: fix is I got a big old rear and big 492 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: old legs from Lars of Squatting and they fit perfectly. 493 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: They're stretchy, they're comfortable, they're fashionable. They're everything I look 494 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 5: for in a gene. 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Please support the 503 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 7: show and tell them Foul Territory sent you. 504 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: All right, guys. 505 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Dodgers seek to become the first team 506 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: since the nineteen ninety eight to two thousand New York 507 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: Yankees to win three consecutive titles. Are they gonna do it? 508 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: Aj? 509 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: And if so? 510 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 4: How? 511 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 512 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: I don't think they are? Don't. I don't. 513 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 5: How do they do it? I mean, they just continue 514 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: to build on the roster they have. Do I think 515 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 5: they will. I think they won't. I think their starting 516 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: pitching is going to be beat up. They got to 517 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: find some bullpen. Hell, they're a year older on the 518 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 5: position player side. Sorry Ilana, but I don't think they're 519 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: gonna win three in a row. They maybe should have 520 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 5: won two in a row. The Blue Jays kind of 521 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 5: had them made some critical errors which the Dodgers don't do. 522 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 5: But I think with another year, another long postseason run, 523 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: I think they're not going to be They'll make the playoffs, 524 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 5: of course, but I think somebody will figure out a 525 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 5: way to take them out. 526 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: I understand that's fair. I mean, listen, I'll take back 527 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: to back. I don't expect a three pet It's difficult 528 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: to do in any sport, certainly in baseball. You guys 529 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: know that, Eric, if you are the Dodgers, it seems 530 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: like LA is the destination for Japanese top pitching prospects. 531 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Do you go after the two prospects in terms of 532 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: I guess I have to learn some new names, right 533 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: Munataka Murakami and is it. 534 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: Am I email? How am i? Okay? 535 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Do you go after either of those two guys to 536 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: join Shohei Otani and Roki Sasaki and Yoshinobu Yamamoto am I? 537 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: Yes, am I. 538 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 6: I would go after him because of the fact that 539 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 6: you can always use pitching. 540 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 4: Clearly they showed that this year. Clearly everybody was like. 541 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 6: How can you have nine or ten quality starters to 542 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 6: start the year? Like you see how you can do it? So, yes, 543 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 6: I see them going after am I, and I think 544 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 6: that's probably their easier get if you're saying one of 545 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 6: the two, because Munataki more COMI kind of plays the 546 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 6: positions they've already had. Whether you believe like aj like 547 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 6: that they're getting older. You don't need a you don't 548 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 6: need somebody to be to replace Max Montcy at third base. 549 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 6: Yet he's you know, he's gonna coming up on one 550 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 6: more year deal. He'll probably sign some kind of extension 551 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 6: like he keeps doing. Obviously, Freddy has not lost a 552 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 6: beat as opposed to what Dombrowski said. But you know, 553 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: I think they're they're locked in and you can't bring 554 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 6: in a dh because of what Showhy does. So more 555 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 6: kami no, but am I I mean worst worst comes 556 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 6: to worse, like the guy slides to the bullpen. You 557 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 6: need six starters, So essentially you probably need about eight 558 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 6: to nine starters to start the season because very few 559 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 6: of them. I mean, I was super impressed a Yamamoto 560 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 6: got to thirty starts. You might they might want to 561 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 6: back that down a little bit, so you need more guys. 562 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 6: And I have a hard time believing that his teammates 563 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 6: on Team Samurai would not be would not at least 564 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 6: give a ringing vote of confidence to the Dodgers. 565 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: By the way, Yoshiobu Yamamoto just adopted a dog out 566 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: of an LA shelter by the name of Carlos. So 567 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: not only is he the greatest picture on the face 568 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: of the planet ever, to live. He also adopts his pets, 569 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: but that's neither here nor there. Aj Pierzinski, let me 570 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: ask you this baby. And Ardaya, who writes for the Athletics, 571 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: said that Devin Williams was emerging as a Dodgers leverage 572 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: reliever target. We just talked to Jim Bowden about it. 573 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: In terms of the closer market. Do you think Devin 574 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: Williams makes sense in LA? 575 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: It makes sense everywhere, especially as a bounce back candidate. 576 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: I think he was better towards the end of the year. 577 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 5: I think the Dodgers figure stuff out that a lot 578 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 5: of other teams haven't figured out. I think he would 579 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: be a great guy, you know, if he'd be your closer. 580 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. 581 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 5: They're hoping Tanner Scott comes back from his butt surgery, 582 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 5: like trying to bounces back after a down year, you know, 583 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 5: And they have a lot of options down there. 584 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: So do I think he'd be a great fit. 585 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's about fifteen other teams too be a great 586 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 5: fit for So it's nice to be a reliever in 587 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: this market. And yeah, I think you fit in l 588 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 5: A and and a lot of places. 589 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: Is the closer market this year? 590 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 2: Aj and Eric the shortstop market two years ago seems 591 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of good closers, but there was 592 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: a lot of really good shortstops. 593 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. We were kind of wondering 594 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: who was going to go first? At what price and where? 595 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: Is it kind of similar to that anybody? 596 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, No, I think I think you're right. 597 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: I think it's who's going to go where and who's 598 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 5: going to be the first dominant of fall. 599 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 4: That's the thing. 600 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 5: And then once it once a team like LA reaches 601 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 5: their the guy their guy then and then the next 602 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 5: guy going the next team will go in the next team. 603 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess the top guy would be Edwin Diaz. 604 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 5: Right where does Edwin Diaz go? Does he go back 605 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: to the Mets? He's going to kind of set the market, 606 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 5: and then once he's off the board, it's going to 607 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 5: be like pew. 608 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 3: Pew pee pee pee pee pee pee pee. 609 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 5: Pew, because then there's going to be a run because 610 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 5: then whoever think, whoever you think the next guy is 611 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 5: is going to say, well, if Edwin Diaz got this, 612 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 5: and then the teams will come to him. Right, So 613 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 5: it starts off with if you think Diez is the 614 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 5: top guy, then the next guy, the next guy, the 615 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 5: next guy, and teams, and then as they start getting 616 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 5: more and more in their price range, teams are gonna 617 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 5: start picking these guys off pretty quick. 618 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a big that was a big shortstop market. 619 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 6: I was trying to think who all was on that market. 620 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that was your story, Korea. 621 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: Da Xander. I get it. 622 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: But here's the thing with the closer market. I'm not 623 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 6: saying this is gonna happen, but people were up in 624 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 6: arms about it last year when the Dodgers just kept 625 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 6: getting every good closer or every good bullpen piece that 626 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 6: was out there, Like, teams have to move. You can't like, 627 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 6: this isn't musical chairs and say, oh well, I'm out, Like, 628 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: if you need a closer to me, you gotta move. 629 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 6: They're out there. You have three, you have three high 630 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 6: end elite choices. Yes, Devin Williams had a bad year 631 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 6: this year, But to me, I think it's it's very 632 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 6: simple to just look at his usage and how it 633 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 6: compared to what he was doing, and what counts with 634 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 6: the Brewers compared to what he was doing and what. 635 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: Counts with the Yankee. 636 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 6: So I think he's up there with the other two guys, 637 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 6: and I just think you have to move. You have 638 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 6: to move, don't. I don't think it's quite as deep, 639 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 6: but there is a It's easily the deepest position this 640 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 6: offseason by far. 641 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the carousel of closers in Los Angeles is a 642 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: pain in the ass. No pun intended with what Tanner 643 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: Scott's going through. Kile af both of you guys. This 644 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: next question though, Dalton Rushing is now the backup catcher 645 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: to Will Smith and Los Angeles. Ben Rtvett was claimed 646 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: off of waivers by Cincinnati. Are you okay with Rushing 647 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: as the backup to Will Smith? 648 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: AJ? 649 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did it this year. He proved it. 650 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: That's what they think he's going to be, apparently, because 651 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 5: otherwise they, you know, try to trade him and move him. 652 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: Maybe that's they still will But the bigger question is Rortvett. 653 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 5: He's gonna be the third catcher in Cincinnati because they 654 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: have Stevenson int who's signed to a deal. So where's 655 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: the work that fited for Cincinnati? I guess if one 656 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: of them gets hurt. But that was more surprising to 657 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 5: me than anything. 658 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: What about you, Eric, I don't think he should. 659 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 6: And I've said this for a while, I don't think 660 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 6: Dalton Rushing should be the backup. I think he's much 661 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 6: better than the backup and then then a backup situation. 662 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 6: But it's where he's at right now. The Dodgers have 663 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 6: a have one of the best, if not the top 664 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 6: three catchers in the game and Will Smith, and they yes, 665 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 6: I get it, they need to give him days off 666 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 6: so he doesn't wear down at the end of the season. 667 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 6: But you saw this year he wasn't wearing down at 668 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 6: the end of the season. His numbers were great. A 669 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 6: freak injury, and to me, if they had the ability 670 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 6: to upgrade with Dalton Rushing, I think it would be 671 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 6: great for him, and I think it would also be 672 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: great for the team to say, yes, we can go 673 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 6: get a backup catcher in some type of role and 674 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 6: we can get something, in my opinion, pretty huge, because 675 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 6: if you end up having Dalton Rushing be the backup 676 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 6: for the next two or three years, it is really 677 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: tough to put up numbers, and as a player you 678 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 6: can still become a starter later, but as a team, 679 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 6: his value will just decrease because right now he's a 680 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 6: dude that was in the minor leagues, prospect a lot 681 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 6: of hype, played all the time, and you're going to 682 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 6: the big leagues and you're just not playing very much. 683 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 6: So you're just not going to get the same value 684 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 6: years from now or even a year from now, if 685 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 6: he continues to amass one hundred and eighty to two 686 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 6: hundred at bats when I thought what he did in 687 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 6: the minor leagues was enough to be a starter in 688 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 6: the big leagues. 689 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, though, Is it better to 690 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: be a starter on the Pittsburgh Pirates or a backup 691 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Dodgers. 692 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: Depends if you want to get paid or not. Okay, 693 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: I think if you're a starter, if you're. 694 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 5: The starter, you're always going to get You're always want 695 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 5: to be the starter because you're i That's how you 696 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: make your money and establish a career. How there are 697 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 5: guys that are backups, but they usually don't get paid 698 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: the amount that the starter gets. And if you're good 699 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 5: enough to be a starter, like most people believe Dalton 700 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 5: Rushing is, it'd be better to go be a starter. 701 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: But right now the Dodgers ain't doing it, So you 702 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 5: know what he happy as a backup and try to 703 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 5: win another ring because he had some big at bats 704 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: and he had some big games for the Dodgers. 705 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 6: Totally, that's what that's what his mindset has to be. 706 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: And it doesn't mean he doesn't want to win. If 707 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: he would say, if his answer would truly be no, 708 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 6: I want to be the starter for the Pirates because 709 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 6: early in your career, rarely do you get a chance 710 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 6: to you know, see winning. And now he's in winning, 711 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 6: but early in your career you're also like, I want 712 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 6: to maximize what my career can absolutely be. And so 713 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 6: to me, if it were up to him, which it's not, 714 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 6: I would say I want to be a starter, just 715 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 6: the same as I was talking about with Mason Miller. 716 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 6: Mason Miller is a tremendous all star closer, but if 717 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 6: you want to maximize what you can do, being a 718 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 6: starter is a challenge, which players love challenges. But it's 719 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 6: also so much more value for him if he becomes successful, 720 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 6: and no players like, well, I don't know if I'll 721 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 6: be successful or not. No, of course, you like, that's 722 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 6: what you're gonna do, so you might as well go 723 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 6: to the position that would make would make you the 724 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 6: most money. And have the best career you can have 725 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 6: because your careers are short.