00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess your own presences. Presence enough. I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey mean. 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineinger. The siren is blasting. We're in the backyard. We're starting with on an alarming note. There is some sort of emergency that there's honking sirens. They've been going for a little while now, so hopefully that sets the mood for the entire podcast. Ah, what is happening? I mean, the sirens keep going. I can't imagine what's going on, but I do want to make an audio record of for when I listen to this next I hope that I've thrown away the cottage cheese in my fridge. It's been too long. I have to commit to just removing it. So hopefully it's gone by the time that this is out, Otherwise it'll have been in my fridge for three months. I think that's all we have to talk about. The sirens have cooled down, and let's get into the podcast. I truly adore today's guest. It's Chris Theyer. Chris, welcome to I said no gifts. 00:01:47 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 00:01:49 Speaker 2: I'm sorry about the sirens situation. 00:01:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do appreciate. 00:01:53 Speaker 2: That more than it's still going. It's been going for before we begin record. 00:02:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they don't they don't want this to happen. You know, they know there's gonna be some truth bombs going off today. 00:02:09 Speaker 2: We're both gonna reveal too much. 00:02:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:02:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is maybe the most annoys that's happened in this backyard. 00:02:15 Speaker 3: Well, now we have a helicopter, just for anybody at home who's wondering, is that a plane? 00:02:18 Speaker 2: No, that sounds to me like a plane. No, that's probably a helicopter. If that were a plane, I think the engines would be on fire or something. 00:02:26 Speaker 3: Our first fight. 00:02:28 Speaker 2: Ten years and it won't be the last ten years. And it's been smooth sailing until now. 00:02:32 Speaker 3: I've been saving up for this podcast before you even had it. 00:02:35 Speaker 2: Just building, well before the show even began. You started picking at me about my choice of brunch. 00:02:41 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, your location of brunch. You're up here in your your little ivory tower and then you have a brunch spot that you like to suggest for meeting up. And I never made the connection that it's two measly blocks from your house and you can just roller skate over there. 00:03:01 Speaker 2: It's good food, though, where's a good in between between us? 00:03:04 Speaker 3: Somewhere between if you're going. 00:03:06 Speaker 2: To throw a stone, I need some sort of. 00:03:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, between the two of us, I would say probably the home depot in Cypress Park. 00:03:13 Speaker 2: Get a hot dog at the hot dog depot? 00:03:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 00:03:17 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a hot dog at the home depot. 00:03:19 Speaker 3: I think I've been tempted to get a hot dog at the home depot, and they're always closed when I'm open to it, right. 00:03:26 Speaker 2: I don't know what their hours of operation are because I feel like I'm usually there during the day when you would purchase a hot dog. I really don't know, but I think I would get a hot dog if it is open to me. 00:03:37 Speaker 3: Next time we meet up, we are going to meet up and get a hot dog at home depot. 00:03:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm kind of in the mood, you know, when you're at a home depot, you're like in the outdoor mood. Yeah, you're probably working on a project or something, and so the idea of something coming off a grill kind of makes sense. 00:03:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, I mean guy food. 00:03:56 Speaker 2: Today, I'm the Homo Depot earlier. Actually today I had to do some home projects. I had to buy spackle because it's been putting nails through all of my walls. 00:04:10 Speaker 3: Okay, and go on, is something wrong? 00:04:14 Speaker 2: I was hanging some things in the living room. Okay, unbelievably stressful. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: The hanging process. 00:04:20 Speaker 2: Does it stress you out at all? 00:04:21 Speaker 3: Yeah? My girlfriend and I have been rearranging. My girlfriend is Anna Sargina. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: A former guest of The Platform the podcast. 00:04:32 Speaker 3: There's also a saw going on in the background. I just want to acknowledge that. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: There's also there's a very strong chance there's going to be a garbage truck coming through. It's garbage today, Okay, great. 00:04:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we have been moving furniture around in the house and reorganizing the living room and stuff. And we took some pictures off the wall to move some stuff around. And I was about to go out of town the other day, and like the last night before I was leaving, she was wanting to put the pictures back up, and and I think it was actually it might have been Valentine's Day, and I was just kind of like, you know, I think we should just have a nice night. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: Hmm. 00:05:11 Speaker 3: I think this is going to get out of hand if if we try to do this project together. We should just leave it alone. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: Did you do it? No? 00:05:19 Speaker 3: Oh, I just got back. 00:05:20 Speaker 2: That's incredible. 00:05:21 Speaker 3: We'll get to it. 00:05:22 Speaker 2: But all that, I mean, you made such an incredible call. Yeah, because last night I said to Jim, we should hang these things, and he's like, let's not do it tonight. It's going to take hours. And I thought I said it'll take fifteen minutes. Yeah, could not have been more wrong. It was probably an hour and a half. Really very tense. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it doesn't necessarily take that long, but it's the tension. 00:05:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:05:48 Speaker 3: I don't know why it's uncomfortable, but it sort of is. 00:05:52 Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, it's because you both probably have a slightly different idea of how even to put a nail in the wall. Yeah, I mean Jim and I have very different ideas how to put an on a wall. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: He comes into the back of the wall, he drills through the other side. He's like, you got to get in between the two walls. 00:06:07 Speaker 2: I'll come through the roof and I'll. 00:06:09 Speaker 3: Shoot the pointy side out. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: No, I like, I really want them to be in straight. And he thinks, you know, if it's straight enough, that's fine. 00:06:18 Speaker 3: We're talking about the picture of the nail. 00:06:21 Speaker 2: Kind of both okay, okay, I mean more than nail, and he's with the nails. He's like, as long as it's kind of in there correctly, it'll be fine. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: I'm usually going in at an angle. 00:06:31 Speaker 2: I'm going at a full angle, and that's my problem. Okay, I'm trying to get it in straight of course. 00:06:37 Speaker 3: All right, all right, but are you. 00:06:38 Speaker 2: Doing an angle on purpose? 00:06:40 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:06:40 Speaker 2: Oh no, See this is why I shouldn't be doing this at all. 00:06:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going in. You know, I got like a forty five degree angle on the nail, and that way gives the string or the oh my god, look or whatever something to hang on. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: Oh no, I hung four things incorrectly then, I mean they seem okay. 00:07:00 Speaker 3: Well, you're going to be re hanging four things roughly cleaning up some glass. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: I meant we rehung and re hung and that's why there were holes in the wall. Yeah, and then I'm spackling behind the pictures are just an absolute mess at this point. So what I had to spackle is far up enough that I could just do kind of a crappy, my level of quality job. No, I'll notice. But the moment we take this off, we'll have to hire painters or something. Someone's gonna have to reconstruct the walls. 00:07:26 Speaker 3: There goes the value of the house really, just straight down there. It goes your investment. 00:07:32 Speaker 2: Where did you go out of town? 00:07:34 Speaker 3: I went to San Francisco. Oh, I was doing shows. 00:07:37 Speaker 2: How long are you up there for? 00:07:38 Speaker 3: Yeah? It was Wednesday through Saturday. Night was weekend with another comic, and then yesterday I did like or On Sunday, I did this local showcase that they have up there, and then after the Sunday show, I dropped to Santa Cruz and then I came back yesterday. 00:07:52 Speaker 2: How do you feel about San Francisco at this point you spent you lived there for a long time. 00:07:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really beautiful. It made me sort of miss it. I don't know that it makes me want to move back necessarily, but yeah, I just was like, man, I can't believe I lived in such a beautiful place that's so like walkable and has public transit, it's accessible, and I was like really blown away by the tap water. 00:08:19 Speaker 2: Is the tapwater good? 00:08:20 Speaker 3: It was really good? 00:08:21 Speaker 2: And you don't like la tapwater? 00:08:23 Speaker 3: No, it's horrible. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: I've I mean, this has been a discussion on this podcast before. I maybe I just have like a water taste blindness or something, because I really never noticed a difference in tapwater. 00:08:34 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we gotta get you up there. We got to drive you halfway and have you do a taste test. 00:08:40 Speaker 2: Meet me halfway with a jar of water. 00:08:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:08:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is that much of a difference. 00:08:45 Speaker 3: Though, absolutely. Yeah. Here, I'm like, oh, I'm drinking pool water. 00:08:49 Speaker 2: The chlorine is just just incredibly Yeah. Are you filtering your water here? 00:08:55 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:08:56 Speaker 2: See, I don't know that I noticed a difference. I think the only difference I noticed is that the ailtered water and my fridge is cold, yeah, and then the tap water is room temper. 00:09:04 Speaker 3: I mean, cold does make quite a difference. It's almost like a wine or something. It is you let an airate and breathe sort of reach room temperature and you're like, oh, this is disgusting. But when it's cold, you're like, ooh, is this Mountain spring water. 00:09:19 Speaker 2: I really think like a cold water is. I mean, even the worst water will be improved to drink ability. And if it's cold, I agree. I've noticed recently how sensitive my teeth are after brushing my teeth and then I drink cold water. Have you had that experience? 00:09:34 Speaker 3: No, I think I'm not going straight to water after rushing my teeth. 00:09:37 Speaker 2: You should try it. It's it's a shock to the system. 00:09:40 Speaker 3: You're doing that instead of like cold water shower. You just have a sip of cold water in the morning and you're like whoo. 00:09:47 Speaker 2: The other day, Actually, I wash the dog like every ten days, and she I have to beg her, I have to drag her, I have to do I basically trick her again into the shower. Yeah, and she's fine with it once we're in there. But I got her into the shower the other day and I have to put medicated shampoo on her that stays on her for ten minutes. So I had gotten all the shampoo on, I had tricked her, dragged her in, and then the shampoo was on and I turned the water back on and the water heater had turned off. Oh no ice, cold water, I might as well have just been tasing her. Yeah, I mean like the trust you have to build to get the dog in the shower. I felt awful, absolutely terrible. 00:10:21 Speaker 3: How did that play out? 00:10:22 Speaker 2: I don't know that I'll be able to get her back in the shower. Oh no, you don't have any pets? 00:10:27 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 00:10:27 Speaker 2: Do you or Anna have any interest in a pet? Uh? 00:10:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sort of open to the possibility of getting a pet. Anna, I think, really wants a dog. And when she was growing up, she had like two one hundred and fifty pound dogs. 00:10:40 Speaker 2: Oh okay, the number, the way you just played out, the numbers could have gone in any direction. I was thinking two hundred and fifty dogs. Yeah, yeah, but yet she had two one hundred and fifty three hundred pounds. 00:10:51 Speaker 3: Three hundred pounds worth of dog. 00:10:53 Speaker 2: What kind of dogs were they? 00:10:54 Speaker 3: I can't remember the name right now, but they're just these massively large dogs, huge, Doug. I don't even wagh that much. 00:11:02 Speaker 2: I neither do I. Yeah, we see, we've both now revealed something. Yeah, the truthful. 00:11:07 Speaker 3: So if there's any casting directors listening, just. 00:11:09 Speaker 2: Kids looking for slight man. 00:11:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, so in her experience she grew up, Yeah, with these huge dogs and those were almost like her siblings because she was an only child. And for me, I didn't grow up with pets. And I saw this kid get mauled when I was a kid. What Yeah, I saw this kid get mauled by like a Rottweiler or a Doberman picture or something like that, and he had to get like stitches in his head at the top of his head it was where he got bit. So for me, I was I was like traumatized for a long time. And now I'm like, you know, a small dog would be okay, and she's like, could be bigger. Anytime we see a dog out in public, I'm like, that one's cute. She's like, yeah, I could be bigger. And then she sees a dog and I'm like, yeah, it could be smaller or maybe cut into four different dogs. 00:12:03 Speaker 2: So what like size, are you comfortable with the Chihuahua like a beagle sized dog? 00:12:09 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, either of those. I think this Like tiny dogs don't really appeal to me, But it kind of depends on personality too. You know. Like I was staying with my friend in Oakland this last weekend and they have this little like chihuahua, like I don't know, some combination of it's just like a lapdog right right, and it's like so sweet, but it's so tiny, you know. But it was great and I think up to like thirty five pounds. I just like once it can knock stuff over. I don't feel comfortable anymore. I don't feel safe with that. 00:12:45 Speaker 2: A little chiuahua running around the furniture and jumping up on a lamp. That could be a thing. I mean, And I will will also say as far as mauling, I didn't witness it happen, but I orlster kid who a small dog mauled a space Wow? So I you can't a dog. 00:13:01 Speaker 3: I mean, whose side are you on here? 00:13:05 Speaker 2: Everyone's okay, I want to be safe. I see where were you when you saw this kid get mauled by a dog? 00:13:12 Speaker 3: So I was in the first apartment complex I remember living in, and I was like maybe five or six or something like that, and my mom was bringing groceries in from the car. So I was waiting with some of the groceries and she was going to go back and get some more. So I was standing by this tree in the courtyard of our apartment complex, and about fifty two hundred feet away was our neighbor's door. She had only closed the screen to go to the laundry room, and she had this big dog and this kid that lived in our apartment complex, and my cousin who was visiting, teasing the dog. 00:13:50 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well they were like. 00:13:51 Speaker 3: Sticking their tongues out, and you know, like, dang, you can't fight us, Foreshadow and the dog. All I had to do is stand up on its hind legs and open the door. And it just like the door just easily came open, and the two kids split in opposite directions. So my cousin got away and this kid got bit. 00:14:17 Speaker 2: And it's a real sliding doors situation. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, screen door situation. It was you know, mortifying. And then on top of that, sometime within the following week, I was at a neighbor's house where I like, some neighbor would be babysit me or something, and I remember her really insisting that it was my fault. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Your fault was just a bystander. Yeah, if you had gotten involved, you would have been mauled as well. 00:14:46 Speaker 3: I don't even know if she realized that I wasn't my cousin or something. But that's like. 00:14:51 Speaker 2: Abuse, it's psychological. 00:14:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, I was like, sobbing she was. She was like, your this is your fault. You're a response and I was like, but I wasn't even there. Yeah. 00:15:04 Speaker 2: So there was a woman in my neighborhood growing up who was attacked by a dog named Chauncey. But she was horrible, So I didn't feel bad about that. I think that. Then our dog Shamrock, bit a neighbor child, but it was less of a mauling and more of a bite. 00:15:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easy for you to say, trying to keep it alive. It was less of a mauling and more of a lick with than teeth little kids. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I uh, speaking of feeling guilty for injuring somebody as a child, I. 00:15:33 Speaker 3: Didn't say that I did any of that. 00:15:35 Speaker 2: I know that I'm going to try to make you feel better. 00:15:37 Speaker 3: Okay, well let's not let's not painted in a different light, you know. Oh yeah, speaking of being responsible for that kid getting bit, which you definitely were, What was I going to say? 00:15:46 Speaker 2: I'm trying, I'm gonna you're gonna feel incredible. This is going to resolve a lot of trauma for you. Okay, I was going down the what were those slides called the slipping slide, Yeah, the slipping slide with our neighbor Kimberly, who was probably twice my size, and she got one of those bungee cords at the hooks on the ends, and she wanted to play a train. She wanted to do train, so she held onto one end and I held onto the other. But I was the caboose, my weak little arms. Halfway down the slide let go of it hit her in the back of the head. She had to get like thirty stitches. I just ran away and then their truck goes sailing past the house. I didn't feel guilty. I mean, I kind of wasn't my fault. She should have known better. 00:16:29 Speaker 3: Wow, and you're howled. 00:16:30 Speaker 2: I think I was five six and. 00:16:32 Speaker 3: You're already a sociopath. 00:16:34 Speaker 2: I mean it starts young, Yeah. 00:16:35 Speaker 3: It starts there, and then next thing you know, people, Hey made me near my not near my house, just at this place. 00:16:41 Speaker 2: I like, And I don't feel any guilt. 00:16:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, not a single bit of remark life associated. 00:16:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was I gonna I was going to ask you if you have ever had stitches. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: No, I've never. Oh, I broke a bone when I was like two, a screen or there's a lot of screen door trauma. Actually, man, I'm realizing now that are. 00:17:03 Speaker 2: Doors are actually dangerous. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: I guess. 00:17:05 Speaker 2: So they're flimsy, they're flying around. 00:17:07 Speaker 3: I feel like you don't see him so much anymore. 00:17:09 Speaker 2: Nobody has a screen door these days. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: But because they're so dangerous. Probably. But I got hit by a screen door and broke my arm. I guess. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:17:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how heavy it was or what. 00:17:20 Speaker 2: And when you're that young, I feel like your bones are a little bit more rubbery. 00:17:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I mean, so, I don't have any residual, you know, effect from that. But I haven't had any stitches. 00:17:30 Speaker 2: No. 00:17:31 Speaker 3: I just that's the only broken bone I've had. 00:17:33 Speaker 2: And probably no memory of it. 00:17:35 Speaker 3: No, not at all. I've just seen pictures. That's the only reason I know about it. 00:17:38 Speaker 2: That's pretty incredible. Yeah, I feel like I've had a lot of stitches. 00:17:42 Speaker 3: What's your worst? 00:17:44 Speaker 2: My worst one was my brother threw a PVC pipe at me, get me, right near my eye. He was trying to show off for our neighbor. 00:17:52 Speaker 3: Janine Okay, are they together now? 00:17:56 Speaker 2: If they're married, they've got six kids. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: Wow, so it worked. 00:17:59 Speaker 2: It worked. No, he hit me. I mean all of my stitches I think are and God bless him. I love my brother, but I think they're all because of him. The other time, he was dragging me around in a laundry basket. 00:18:09 Speaker 3: To impress another woman, the woman he's. 00:18:12 Speaker 2: Currently having an affair with. Yeah, yeah, and he I don't know. We were having fun and then he pulled it back and of course I like hit the corner of a wall or something. 00:18:21 Speaker 3: Now do you hope he feels bad? 00:18:22 Speaker 2: I hope that he never stops feeling guilty about yeah, because oh, you're trying to. 00:18:26 Speaker 3: Say, does sound a little like the slipping side incident. 00:18:29 Speaker 2: But I mean, I think there's only room in every family for one sociopath. So I took that position, and he's probably just regretting it every day of his life. Yeah, he feels good, But I do. I think I do now because of the PVC thing, have a real fear of things going through my head, Like my number one fear, like is like pulling my head back up and having something like a nail go through my head. 00:18:53 Speaker 3: Like impaling. 00:18:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, is that impaling? 00:18:56 Speaker 3: I guess that's a light weight impaling, partial impale. I guess it's just stabbing if impaling feels like it goes all the way through right. 00:19:04 Speaker 2: Right, Like I feel like impaling kind of needs to go neck down, like wasted neck down. 00:19:10 Speaker 3: Below the neck, right, Okay, But it can't be it can't be below the waist. 00:19:14 Speaker 2: No, I think that's another category. But you don't get like. 00:19:19 Speaker 3: But like through your bladder or something. You're like, no, that doesn't count. 00:19:22 Speaker 2: That's a different thing. Let's see below. 00:19:25 Speaker 3: I guess maybe below your torso, below your tor but not limited to your taint, your asshole. 00:19:36 Speaker 2: That's a different category. 00:19:37 Speaker 3: You think that's a different, different category. I'm saying this is all one. 00:19:41 Speaker 2: You know, like, well you're currently oh, I guess if you're going up straight through. 00:19:46 Speaker 3: But then that's like a I wasn't even thinking about the. 00:19:49 Speaker 2: Type situation record on the cob. Yeah, that's a I think that there probably is a different. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: For a vertical versus horizon god, that goes all the. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: Way up through your skull. I'm sorry to the listener, this is not. 00:20:04 Speaker 3: That's got to be bad imagery. I actually did get stabbed in the head like that. I'm trying to think of what it was that we were playing with a screwdriver. 00:20:17 Speaker 2: Okay, yep, yep, okay. 00:20:19 Speaker 3: So you know kids games, much like the Caboos or something like that, you just come up with stuff and it's like, yeah, obviously somebody's gonna get hurt. I was in this kid's backyard. He had like a big box, and we're like, oh, let's play Magician. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this so magician. 00:20:38 Speaker 3: You know, I pop my head up, the screwdriver lifts up. When he goes down with the screwdriver, my head goes down. A never the twain shall meet right wrong, And so I get stabbed in the in the head. 00:20:54 Speaker 2: You know. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: It like doesn't go through my skull or anything, but it was enough to draw blood. And that was enough to like scare the shit out of me. 00:21:03 Speaker 2: Right. 00:21:04 Speaker 3: He was freaked out, and then like, you know, there's blood coming from like under my hair, your wig, yeah, like down over my eyes basically, and I'm just like screaming like crazy. So yeah, but no stitches or anything. 00:21:19 Speaker 2: I was going to say my sister got stitches from playing magician. Really, some other we had like a trap door or something over a desk, and of course someone's going to fall through the trap door and hit the head on the side of the desk. What was it, my neighbor Jenny, it was a little girl. 00:21:36 Speaker 3: You had a trap door in your house. 00:21:38 Speaker 2: We had a trap door. It was a piece of cardboard I believe, like between the bed and the desk or something, and someone's walking over it. I don't even know how that works as a magician trick. Yeah, children nerve. 00:21:51 Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, it's like if someone doesn't get injured, then that is magic. That's the that is the magic, And a lot of times it just doesn't work. 00:22:00 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm really impressed that you haven't had a single stitch. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: That's me too. But I'm also like incredibly fearful and not very daring. 00:22:09 Speaker 2: Oh sure, I mean neither am I? 00:22:11 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:22:11 Speaker 2: Who do you think? I? Well? 00:22:14 Speaker 3: I also didn't This is an older sibling of yours. Yes, yeah, I was the oldest. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Sibling who's usually the aggressor. 00:22:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, not me, but uh well kind of, but. 00:22:25 Speaker 2: You didn't have somebody to aggress at you. No, I feel like you have a good relationship with both your siblings. 00:22:31 Speaker 3: I kind of do. Yeah, We're not like incredibly close, but I'm trying. 00:22:35 Speaker 2: Man, you all get along. 00:22:37 Speaker 3: I'm trying. 00:22:37 Speaker 2: I feel like you get along as adults. 00:22:40 Speaker 3: Because why we post a picture once every year and a half on Instagram. 00:22:44 Speaker 2: No, because like every time they ever come up, it's like, oh, they seem to have like adult relationships with each other. 00:22:49 Speaker 3: We're trying, Yeah, I think, so we don't really like hang out. My brother and sister are closer, and I'm a little jealous. Yeah. Well, we're half siblings, and sister have the same dad. I have a different dad, So they grew up together. I'm like quite a bit older, and so I like moved out during their formative years. So they're just like a little more bonded than. 00:23:12 Speaker 2: You, just because increasingly distant. 00:23:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm just like the weird old guy that's like, hey, guys love you. 00:23:19 Speaker 2: I'm sure they adore you. 00:23:21 Speaker 3: We'll see anyway, what else do we want to talk about? 00:23:24 Speaker 2: I mean, there is something I want to talk about. 00:23:26 Speaker 3: Go on. 00:23:26 Speaker 2: I was so excited to have you here today. We've known each other for a very long time. Yeah, ten years. I looked into it earlier today I was like, how long have I actually known Christen. I think we're coming up on like our ten year anniversary. 00:23:39 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, so I was. 00:23:40 Speaker 2: Excited to have you here. I wanted to chat catch up. The podcast is called I said, no gifts. Yeah, so you come trotting into my backyard. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't see it. Yeah yeah, I'm just like, look like porky pig apparently like cloven hoods, just trotting back here. 00:24:01 Speaker 2: Great ass, Yeah. 00:24:03 Speaker 3: Great, little curly ass. I've got. 00:24:06 Speaker 2: Holding a gift, beautifully wrapped look which you said you had wrapped yourself brack. 00:24:13 Speaker 3: Yeah. But here's the thing I don't I know, you didn't ask for a gift, and because we're so close, I'll be honest with you, I don't even really think about this as a gift. 00:24:22 Speaker 2: Oh interesting. 00:24:23 Speaker 3: When I saw this thing, I said to myself, I have to return this to its rightful owner. 00:24:29 Speaker 2: Oh interesting. 00:24:31 Speaker 3: So I'm just kind of like reuniting you with something that was already yours. 00:24:36 Speaker 2: I lost piece of my past. 00:24:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we found piece of your future. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm happy to open it here on the podcast. If that's something you'd like. 00:24:46 Speaker 3: I would love that. 00:25:09 Speaker 2: Okay, it's I would say, it's about the size of like it's probably a twelve by twelve yeah square, yeah, in a beautiful striped package. It says Merry Christmas to Bridger from Chris. 00:25:20 Speaker 3: I know you're big on Merry Christmas. 00:25:22 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm kind of at the forefront of the Merry Christmas. 00:25:25 Speaker 3: Just to clarify, I doesn't say Merry Christmas. I didn't write Merry Christmas. Like, ha ha, what a lame, lazy joke. It's like a tag. It's a sticky tag that says Merry Christmas. And then I just wrote our names in so but yeah, I know you're big on Merry Christmas. You're like, oh, happy Holidays, Like, don't oppress me. You're always talking about that, and you're a close friends. 00:25:46 Speaker 2: This is kind of a corner soon of this podcast. 00:25:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I figured that might kind of cool off that subject for a bit. And then the kind of like it's not quite red, white and blue, but. 00:26:00 Speaker 2: It you've cut. So you've basically kind of soothed the fringe right wing views of this podcast and of its host, kind of the Tucker Carl. Yeah, yeah, you've tamed that. So I'll go ahead and open. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: It complete disregard for the wrapping job with this opening job he's doing here. 00:26:26 Speaker 2: It's it's a puzzle, a jigsaw puzzle. 00:26:31 Speaker 3: How many pieces? 00:26:32 Speaker 2: A thousand pieces? Kind of the the former presidents of the United States, but all of them, No, it's not all of them. We've got, of course, both of the Bushes. Yea junior and senior. We've got Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon. Who's this is that? Gerald Ford? 00:26:55 Speaker 3: Uh, this is Gerald Ford, Dwight Eisenhower, and Teddy Roosevelt. 00:27:01 Speaker 2: Yes, so again you're kind of trying to get back to my rogan esque Yeah, Tucker. 00:27:08 Speaker 3: It's only Republican presidents. 00:27:11 Speaker 2: And uh so you want me to hang in my living room. 00:27:14 Speaker 3: Well, let's let's cover the rest of what's going on here. They're playing pool. They're playing pool in front of the main thing of them another. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: Time it is another time. I was going to say, it's the identical thing, but it's obviously like they've done it in the past. 00:27:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then hanging above the pool table, we see that it's like a like a glass sort of mosaic lamphony lamp, but with the gop elephants. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: And then don't forget in the background, just a framed painting of George. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: Washington, right, And you know there's a lot going on here. 00:27:53 Speaker 2: Where did you find this? 00:27:54 Speaker 3: Well, I'll get to that, but I would like to clarify that my understanding is that at one point in history the Democrats and the Republicans like sort of changed platforms. 00:28:04 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course I don't. 00:28:06 Speaker 3: I'm not even going to pretend that I know when. But you know, we're playing a little bit fast and loose. To have Abraham Lincoln hanging out with Richard Nixon or whatever as the same party, I. 00:28:16 Speaker 2: Mean, I would say it's kind of crazy to have Richard Nixon in the same room as the Bushes, because, like, the party has continued to go so far right that Nixon at this point would probably seem borderline liberal compared to some of these men. 00:28:32 Speaker 3: But they're all buddies at the end of the day. They're playing pool together. 00:28:39 Speaker 2: Interesting, So where did you find this? 00:28:41 Speaker 3: Yesterday? When I was driving home from Santa Cruz, I stopped in Lost Hills, Okay, and there is a like truck stop or something that's It's big thing is that it's like James Dean's last Turn or what it's like where he died or near where he died. Did James Dean die in a car accident? I think, oh, like drag rate. I don't know, as I could be wrong, but that's what I think he was in, like a hot rod, I think so. And so they have all this James Dean stuff. But then you go inside and they're like, hey, try our almond brittle or whatever. And I was looking around trying to find the perfect gift and it found me. Also eco friendly. I don't know if you saw that. 00:29:23 Speaker 2: Fly soy based inks that feels like it shouldn't be this should be like made of plastic. 00:29:29 Speaker 3: Throw it directly into the Yeah, yeah, but American. 00:29:31 Speaker 2: Maid, American maid. And it's called calling the blue, which what does that mean? I'm not really sure blue with Democrats? 00:29:40 Speaker 3: Right? So are we saying that? That's like you're calling which ball you're going to hit, and you're trying to like knock the Democrats into a hole? 00:29:49 Speaker 2: Happy to knock a ball into a hole. Well, the the metaphor falls apart. 00:29:55 Speaker 3: Pretty quickly unless you see the balls as your enemy, unless you identify with the white ball, which some of these men might. 00:30:04 Speaker 2: I would say it also the proximity these men have to the pool table would make this playing pool nearly impossible. 00:30:13 Speaker 3: Oh, not nearly impossible, completely impossible. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: They're all inches away from the table. Two of them are seated. 00:30:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, this should have been a less close up photo. 00:30:22 Speaker 2: Oh there's the dump truck by the way, garbage truck. 00:30:27 Speaker 3: Do you want to toss that right in there or it f you'ls? 00:30:30 Speaker 2: Just give me two minutes now, this will be going in for next week. Are you a big pool player? Do you like to play pool? 00:30:37 Speaker 3: No? I actually kind of hate playing pool, But I know that you're You're always saying I'm a pool player first and a Republican second, which is why I got you this. 00:30:47 Speaker 2: That's how I vote. 00:30:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, pool first. Yeah, I used to play pool when I was a teenager. Is when I first like tried playing pool. And it was with this slightly older guy who wanted to have sex with my girlfriend and George Bush. Yeah yeah, and you can't. As you might imagine, it was a not an ideal. 00:31:11 Speaker 2: Situation, right, right, So he had. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: Years of practice on me, both at pool and sex, and you know, I think she thought he was cool. 00:31:22 Speaker 2: Of course, he was kind of a James Zane type. 00:31:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was and I hope he dies in a car accident. 00:31:27 Speaker 2: I wonder where he is now, I know where he is. 00:31:30 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say, but I know, yeah, and he's not coming anywhere near my current girlfriend tell you that much. 00:31:38 Speaker 2: I've never played a full game of pool. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: It's I don't know. Maybe I just suck at it, you know, that's probably what it is. But I don't think it's fun. 00:31:47 Speaker 2: It's more of a game of I mean, I guess like for people to chat. But if I'm going to chat, I don't need like a I mean, outside of a podcast, I don't need an object. 00:31:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need a sort of a way for to make money off sponsors, but I don't need like a some some dumb game. 00:32:05 Speaker 2: I don't need a felt covered table. No. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: All I need is my supplements that you can get now from our sponsor. 00:32:12 Speaker 2: At Do you take any supplements? Oh? Yeah, what are you taking? 00:32:16 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm taking everything? 00:32:18 Speaker 2: Really? Is that true? 00:32:19 Speaker 3: Yeah? I take like I take multi vitamin, I take fish oil, I take a D supplement, I take green tea extract, I take zinc with copper or something, and then I take a B complex. I think that that might be it. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: So are you like swallowing a handful of pills every morning? 00:32:38 Speaker 3: I do. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:32:39 Speaker 3: I sort of pride myself on the fact that I just take it as one giant handful. 00:32:43 Speaker 2: How many do you think you swallow? 00:32:44 Speaker 3: I mean it really is. However many that is like eight pills. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: Right, that's a lot of pills, and a few of them are like huge, right, I've the amount of pills I've I swallowed in the morning has been steadily growing. Yeah, where I'm like, oh, this is I have to take two separate wallows to get all the pills into my stomach. 00:33:02 Speaker 3: God, what are you taking wellbutrin? Okay, well I didn't include that, but yes. 00:33:07 Speaker 2: So that's two pills. 00:33:09 Speaker 3: Oh wow, you're a big dose four fifty. You're really depressed. You're taking a three hundred and one fifteen. So they don't even match. 00:33:16 Speaker 2: They don't match. One's big and one small, and it's so small that my throat kind of doesn't register it, and so it kind of it frequently gets caught in my throat. 00:33:25 Speaker 3: Horrible for you to get more water in there. 00:33:28 Speaker 2: More coffee, I suppose, But then I've got a multi vitamin. 00:33:33 Speaker 3: The water's too cold for you. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: I've got fiber, which is like five pills. They're suggesting you take five of them three times a day. 00:33:40 Speaker 3: Are you on like an all meat diet kind. 00:33:42 Speaker 2: Of I live with jim ar diet. I mean it's it's surrounding hamburgers and the sort of thing. So I'm trying to, you know, maintain the fiber. I also have cholesterol issues. 00:33:55 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: So then then I'm also I'm now taking a new type of pill. I couldn't even tell you. It's some sort of supplement that I've just recently been taking. 00:34:02 Speaker 3: Why are you taking it? 00:34:03 Speaker 2: It was like somebody recommended it for general health. I think taking two of those. 00:34:08 Speaker 3: We'll talk after. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to show it too. 00:34:11 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many pills have I just named a lot, probably eight pills. Yeah, it's terrible. Do you know what also has been happening to me recently? I've been taking two big of bites. I've found myself choking as an adult at least twice in the last three months. That is unacceptable. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: Maybe you're taking the same size bite, but your throat muscles are just atrophying. They can't handle it anymore. 00:34:33 Speaker 2: From all the cigars I'm smoking, yeah, yeah, as a rogan type. Yeah, it should be noted that Chris and I are currently smoking giant cigars. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. I brought a couple of stogies for us. I don't think a gift. I think this is a prerequisite. So that's why he didn't mention it. 00:34:51 Speaker 2: No, it's embarrassing. I was with friends, I think two days ago. Suddenly I'm choking on a taco It is like, what is wrong with me? 00:35:00 Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely feel like I'm the amount that I'm like clearing my throat with nothing going on. 00:35:07 Speaker 2: Oh that's a bad song. 00:35:09 Speaker 3: I'm not mid meal, mid beverage. 00:35:12 Speaker 2: You know. 00:35:13 Speaker 3: Just the older I get, the more I'm. 00:35:14 Speaker 2: Like, do you think it's just that, like a nervous habit or is there something going on with your body? Well? What could possibly be going on with your body that would drive you to need to do that? 00:35:25 Speaker 3: I have no idea, but it feels shameful. 00:35:28 Speaker 2: Maybe you're producing a ton of saliva. Maybe I don't know that's a I don't I haven't noticed that yet, but it could be coming for me. 00:35:35 Speaker 3: I heard on a podcast that the frequency this is going to be wrong, I'm sure, but the frequency that you have to urinate has to do with whether you take like SIPs or gulps. 00:35:51 Speaker 2: Really, that can't be true. 00:35:53 Speaker 3: That seems Hey, I heard it on Huberman Lab. I didn't fact jacket, but that's what I heard. 00:35:57 Speaker 2: It sounds like an urban legend. Today. 00:35:59 Speaker 3: It's a hop podcast, I mean, so it is Joe Rogan, but it's a top podcast. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: So I mean, I guess that kind of makes sense. 00:36:08 Speaker 3: I constantly have to pee, but I'm constantly taking gulps. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: I'm taking big gulps, and I'm drinking. I am drinking a lot. Yeah, I'm constantly drinking things. 00:36:16 Speaker 3: I'm should be drinking more, but I with as little as I drink, I'm still have to pee all the time. 00:36:22 Speaker 2: And you're taking gulps. I mean, you brought a giant thing of water and you haven't had a even a sip of it yet. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: That's right, I'm afraid of you got to You gotta pay the piper, which is the toilet. 00:36:37 Speaker 2: That's interesting. I mean, I'll have to keep an eye on that. The other thing I've heard about ping is when you wake up in the night and need to pee. You're not waking up because you need to pee. You're ping because you woke up interesting. So it's just like you wake up and you're like, oh, I need to use the restroom. 00:36:53 Speaker 3: When I wake up, I'm like, I'm about to kiss the bed. So I'm glad that I whichever can, I'm glad that I woke up. 00:37:02 Speaker 2: It's an emergency regardless. 00:37:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you ever write the bed? 00:37:05 Speaker 2: I can't. I'm sure I didn't. 00:37:07 Speaker 3: That's no, that's a no, that's an obvious. 00:37:10 Speaker 2: I mean I can tell you I have a vivid memory. 00:37:12 Speaker 3: I mean like once, I mean like, oh, like. 00:37:14 Speaker 2: Frequently, Yeah, no, I have. I will say I have a vivid memory of the last time I peed my pants. Okay, I was seven years old. I was in shopco. 00:37:22 Speaker 3: God, ragmunch seven, I was like twenty five? 00:37:25 Speaker 2: Is that true? Yeah, but well, do you want to talk about that? Rely, you go ahead. I just remember standing in the toy aisle love a shop Co. I guess my mom was off somewhere in the store, shopping, and I wanted to look at the toys so bad that I guess I just stood there and peed my pants and then walked off. 00:37:43 Speaker 3: I mean, a nearly identical thing almost happened to me two days ago, I was at a MEBA in San Francisco. Oh sure, I was looking through the records. I was like, Wow, they have a big reggae section. So I'm like really spending my time in there, and I had to piss like from the minute I walked in. But then I got really interested in looking at the records, and I was like, okay, looking stuff up online, adding it to a playlist on Spotify, digging through stuff. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: Essentially shoplifting by the way. 00:38:13 Speaker 3: I mean they put it up there. I didn't put it up on Spotify. I didn't say I was looking on Napster. But I'm digging through, adding stuff to a playlist, looking stuff up on discogs, just like my bladder's like hello. And then when I finally got out, I was like, oh, I'm going to piss my pants. 00:38:30 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah. Did they have a public restroom at Abiba? 00:38:33 Speaker 3: No? 00:38:34 Speaker 2: Oh, You've got to be kidding. 00:38:35 Speaker 3: No way. So I'm just like this was in San Francisco. I'm like sprinting down Hayte Street, just like where can I go? And they're all they're all hostile to like having people use a public restroom. But I'm also like, I don't want to spend any money. 00:38:47 Speaker 2: I feel like it should be illegal not to have a public restroom. 00:38:51 Speaker 3: I would vote for that. 00:38:53 Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, that should be a public service you have to offer. Yeah, because otherwise it's an emergency. People are going to be using the street. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: It's a human it's something. It's a human rights crisis. I agree. 00:39:06 Speaker 2: Number one human rights crisis is the lack of public restrooms. 00:39:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, lack of pool tables is number one. Lack of public restrooms is number two. 00:39:13 Speaker 2: No, I really think of business to qualify as a business should have to have a you know, let me in there. Obviously, what you're working with the. 00:39:21 Speaker 3: Toilet that's what I That's actually how I might anna. That's what I said to her. So let me see what you're working with toilet wise. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: That's how I mean. You did meet in San Francisco, I imagine. 00:39:32 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:39:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, interesting. 00:39:34 Speaker 3: Hey no public restrooms around here? Have you know anything? Yeah? Yeah, Well maybe let's talk in ten years. 00:39:40 Speaker 2: Wait, so did you wet the bed? 00:39:42 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:39:43 Speaker 2: Until one age, sometime in middle school. 00:39:46 Speaker 3: Okay, it was like mortifying. 00:39:48 Speaker 2: So that was the wedding. The bed from like toddler until middle school. 00:39:53 Speaker 3: I don't know when it started, but yeah, I mean throughout like elementary school for sure, okay, and then into like middle school. Thankfully it stopped when I I don't know around that age. 00:40:08 Speaker 2: Did it kind of just teeter off? 00:40:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of, Oh so. 00:40:11 Speaker 2: You didn't have to like do any sort of No. 00:40:14 Speaker 3: We had my family had like talked about the possibility of like trying, yeah, just getting rid of me in quotes, or using whatever kind of arcane devices they had in the nineties, even though that seems recent. It's like, yeah, we hook up a little thing to you, a wiener that electric is true. 00:40:34 Speaker 2: That can't be true. 00:40:34 Speaker 3: I feel like there was something like that. It was like it gives you a little shock to wake you up, so you go to the bathroom. 00:40:39 Speaker 2: Like, no, it feels like it's only going to make the problem way worse. 00:40:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think, so. 00:40:46 Speaker 2: So you just got lucky. Then it just kind of uh. 00:40:50 Speaker 3: I wouldn't exactly say I got lucky, but yeah, I guess they didn't electrocute my penis. So if we're looking at lucky for lying, yeah, it's a big win for me. That's a I'm checking that up as a w over here. 00:41:07 Speaker 2: How often were you ping the bed? 00:41:09 Speaker 3: I think like most of the time, oh, like every night? 00:41:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, that's. 00:41:14 Speaker 3: Most I don't hear. I wonder what it was related to, too, Like there's no way to know. But my household was just really stressful growing up as well, and I'm like, yeah, I wonder if that was part of it. I really don't know. 00:41:25 Speaker 2: Did they use like plastic sheets or yeah, okay, yeah, so there was kind of some solution to them. 00:41:31 Speaker 3: No, because then the piss is just hovering on top of the sheet and you're just in a big, deep puddle of your own picks. So, you know, I never got stitches, but I got my own stuff going on. Sure. 00:41:46 Speaker 2: I had night terrors until the middle of fifth grade. Really, I was so afraid of falling asleep in a spider biting me or a rat biting me. Wow that I saw. I would cover my entire body with socks and everything up into my head so limited space for things to bite me. 00:42:02 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 00:42:03 Speaker 2: And then I couldn't sleep. 00:42:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't. I would think you wouldn't be able to Where did this fear come from? 00:42:09 Speaker 2: The rat thing came from. I had a rat in first grade and it escaped into our garage and kind of became rabid, and so it felt like a betrayal. Oh my god, it was in there eating a Snickers what so I think that's where that fear came from. And then the spider thing. I think there was a lot of stuff in the nineties, like about what was the black widows and what's the other one? The brown recluse? Yes that like those will kill you? 00:42:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And then there was. 00:42:35 Speaker 2: Also Haunta virus. Do have you ever heard of this? I have the mouse disease. I was horrified of having it. So all of those things combined to make me think that while asleep, some creature was going to come kill me. 00:42:49 Speaker 3: I didn't think we would get to this, but we were recently dealing with the rat problem at our house. Oh no, yeah, we had like somebody come by and they sealed up some openings to like our attic. But we were like putting out traps, which just feels bad morally or whatever. 00:43:08 Speaker 2: But I don't I mean, I'm sorry, I mean, yeah, I. 00:43:11 Speaker 3: Agree with you, but it's like you're kind of like, yeah, this isn't like a bug or something where you're like, oh, let's put some paper under a cup and take it outside. You're like, I guess we could get the bubonic plague or. 00:43:25 Speaker 2: Something, all sorts of things I could. The list goes on and on and on. 00:43:30 Speaker 3: So we were trying to deal with it, and then Anna had this solo show that she was doing. 00:43:37 Speaker 2: Yes, is it the same one I've seen? I think so incredible show. 00:43:41 Speaker 3: Oh wait no a different No, different, different one, more recent one. Yeah. And but there's this big sort of set piece which is a giant, like person sized paper mache nose. 00:43:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen this, Okay, okay, And so. 00:43:53 Speaker 3: The nose somebody else made it, and then we brought it to our house and then it was just so big that we were like, it doesn't fit anywhere in here, and so let's put it in the basement. We put it in the basement, but the rats had moved to the basement, and so then the rats moved into the nose and it was just like mortifying a pet. We then we had like a pest control guy coming by and he would like open the door to the basement. The nose was right in front of the door of the basement, so you'd open the door and he'd be like okay, like let's put some traps and we'll try to figure out like what's going on. But then like the nose would just start wrestling, and it's like, well, I think we know where you're problem. 00:44:31 Speaker 2: Oh my god, but you know you're It was a. 00:44:36 Speaker 3: Couple of weeks of putting traps and like leaving the nose in there before we were like, I guess we can. I mean, we wanted to get rid of it, but you're just like our rat's going to pour out of it and crawled my arm and my face. Yeah, So ultimately I sued it up. 00:44:54 Speaker 2: And what did you suit up in? 00:44:56 Speaker 3: You know? I put on like an N ninety five and had like I might have had a leather jacket on. It's like I was going for a motorcycle ride, like yeah, yeah, it's my vibe sort of. So but yeah, I put like a tarp outside and then I just like moved the I tried to seal off all the openings to the nose because it was open open at the bottom so that someone could stand up inside of it. Oh okay, I filmed this video that she uses in her show, So I tried to seal off all of the nostrils and stuff, and then moved it into this tarp that I had then wrapped in this tarp, wrapped the tarp and duct tape, put the duct tape nose into a U haul that we rented, drove it ten miles away, and then just cruised around like we were, you know, the wet bandits from home improvement, what no alone, home depot, home improvement. We've covered both of those subjects. That's why they're fresh on my mind. So we drove to Pasadena. Sorry, and if the city of Pasadena is listening, I'm sorry. We drove over there, and uh, we were just like cruising around like criminals, like casing the joint, trying to find a dumpster we could use, and we found one and just it was like go, go, go, and just put this huge nose. I'm talking like four feet tall, four feet two and half feet. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: Deep, Like it's like a parade float. 00:46:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gigantic. 00:46:22 Speaker 2: It's gonna be in the Rose Bowl. 00:46:24 Speaker 3: They might if they find it. They're like, hey, I think we could use this door the explorer. You know, we could save a little bit of money if we give her this nose. 00:46:31 Speaker 2: These rats and this nose. Yeah, so you just stuffed it into a dumpster? Yeah, like late at night, middle of the day, middle of okay, well, well dusk, dusk, oh romantic, perfect time. I thought you were just going to say that you had just dumped it like in the street or something. I think that's perfectly fine. 00:46:50 Speaker 3: I think so too. But you know, we're like using somebody else's dumpster or whatever. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: Now, there are worse things you could do with the dumpster. 00:46:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could fuck it, That's all I could think of. I'm sorry, can we edit. 00:47:02 Speaker 2: That in louder louder? And multiple times? 00:47:06 Speaker 3: So I listened to it, I go, you piece as shit and I feel bad about it. 00:47:12 Speaker 2: Oh wow, did you do? 00:47:13 Speaker 1: So? 00:47:13 Speaker 2: Do you think there were rats in it when you moved it? 00:47:16 Speaker 3: I think there was one rat in it, one lovely rat. I really do. Yeah. I heard like a little bit of sound and I was like, yeah, I think somebody is still in there. 00:47:24 Speaker 2: Heard it like a sweet little song being sung. 00:47:27 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:47:27 Speaker 2: Oh, so it's been separated from its family. 00:47:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it would have been otherwise, because well it would have been probably caught otherwise, I caught, I mean killed by a trap. So is the rat situation solved now, knock on wood, I think, so, okay, we haven't seen any lately. We just were waiting and trapping and waiting and trapping and waiting, and then you know, the traps were still set, hadn't been sprung, and the bait was still in them. That's like the indicators like if something's taking the bait or not right right, And it was like, so far, so good. 00:48:02 Speaker 2: So what are we baiting rat traps with these days? Is it cheese or is it some sort of. 00:48:07 Speaker 3: Paste I'm putting. If it was me, I would put peanut butter in there. But when a pest control guy comes by. We had two different guys come buy and they both were like putting slim gems in there. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't hate the idea of a rat eating meat. 00:48:20 Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing more horrid gross And even what's even grosser is that I am so like uptight and like anal and like hyper vigilant about stuff that. Like when the past control guy left, I was like, you know, now it's my shift. Basically, it wasn't like I'll leave it up to him and when he comes back, you know, he'll do his thing. I have like no trust. So I'm just like, Okay, he's gone, so now let's make sure everything. Like if we would catch something, I wouldn't be like I'll let him dispose of it. I'm like, okay, I need to throw that thing away, rebate the trap. And I was like, God, I fell down this YouTube rabbit hole where I was like watching like best Ways to Trap, like best Traps you can get this three hundred dollars electric trap, and like Psychotic People. There's like two top YouTubers that are One is this pair of twins that's really annoying, these middle aged twins who own this pest control company, and they're like, watches, we're going to get these guys out. This guy's had rats for ten years. We're going to get them out of here in thirty minutes. Years yeah, yeah, yeah, And then you know it's it's not them doing the hardest part. They like send like this some poor like Central American guy into like the ductwork with like a GoPro on his head. They're like, we're gonna get them out of there in thirty minutes, and then they're like just shoving his body into the well. 00:49:43 Speaker 2: They're truly making millions of dollars off of this youtubevenue. This guy's probably making fourteen dollars an hour totally. 00:49:49 Speaker 3: And then the other guy is this Canadian guy who he's like very soft spoken. I've probably spent about fifty thousand dollars in the last five years on traps and so, and like I'm pretty sure he just has a barn and like field mice come through. So I'm like, there's something wrong there. You're this is for fun or like for your YouTube project. 00:50:14 Speaker 2: This is not you don't want it to be solved. 00:50:16 Speaker 3: You don't want it to be solved. So it's yeah, it's. 00:50:20 Speaker 2: At Texas Chainsaw MASSACREB mouse version. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. But they're like every video promises you the same thing, and they just have like the most clickbaity titles, so you're like, whoa if you the absolute best bait for killing rats, oh my god. And then it's like these guys are truly like setting out of buffet basically, where it's like, Okay, we're gonna put a slim gym, then we're gonna cover it in peanut butter, and then here's our my little secret. He like literally blows cinnamon onto the I swear to god, what he blows cinnamon onto it and he's like, and it'll be on the ground nearby. 00:50:59 Speaker 2: They love it after schools. Yeah, yeah, there's no way that that does anything. 00:51:04 Speaker 3: I can't imagine. 00:51:06 Speaker 2: I feel like rats will just go for any sort of food that if it smells like something, they're gonna eat it. They don't need a like a latte. 00:51:12 Speaker 3: The Canadian guy set up a thing where he put this square out. It's I don't know how to explain this, like a grid, right, and all these different squares on the grid had different types of bait. 00:51:24 Speaker 2: It's like an advent calendar and yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:51:27 Speaker 3: And he was like, we'll see which ones they like best. And it was like, so he uses his night vision camera to see what they go to most and first and whatever. And it was just like, why am I doing with this? This was my life? 00:51:40 Speaker 2: Was there a clear winner? 00:51:41 Speaker 1: Not really? 00:51:42 Speaker 3: No, I mean, like, I know, peanut butter was near the top. I can't remember if it was number one. 00:51:47 Speaker 2: It's weird how universally beloved peanut butter is. Yeah, every animal loves peanut butter, humans love peanut butter. Mister Ed, Mister Ed, of course. 00:51:55 Speaker 3: Ronald, I heard that was a recently. I don't know why I was looking at up but that they didn't actually use peanut butter to do the thing with. 00:52:03 Speaker 2: His What did they do? He was just talking. 00:52:09 Speaker 3: It was real actually yeah, yeah, yeah, we weren't ready to know. No, I feel like there was like a string or something, oh. 00:52:16 Speaker 2: Something worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a shame. It feels like the peanut butter thing would work. 00:52:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's he was doing it on cue. It's like, obviously it's right. How stupid were we to. 00:52:30 Speaker 2: Think fall for that to go the great lie? 00:52:32 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, maybe they wrote the script around when he would lick the peanut butter. They reverse engineered it. 00:52:37 Speaker 2: And were these were you believing that the peanut butter was like at the front of his mouth or like on the roof of the roof of his mouth, So some we were assuming that someone was sticking their hand in there with peanut butter. Yeah, actually that makes no sense at all. Of course that didn't happen. 00:52:49 Speaker 3: Maybe they could put like a those wooden things that you put a pizza in the oven with. 00:52:53 Speaker 2: What are those called big wood spatula pizza grabber? 00:52:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of those peg geez but in the horses now Pigi just loaded with Yeah, they mod they mod one of those out. 00:53:09 Speaker 2: Interesting. I don't know where we are to say the least podcast. 00:53:14 Speaker 3: I've got this puzzle, yeah, I mean, and you can frame it when you're done, and then of course, and you know the real gift I'll give you because you asked me not to bring a gift, so I didn't bring it right now. 00:53:24 Speaker 2: You gave me a piece of the puzzle yea, so to speak. 00:53:28 Speaker 3: If it helps you know, when you're done assembling the puzzle, right, I'll come over and hang it up. If it helps you in Jen's. 00:53:36 Speaker 2: Relationship exactly, that would be nice. 00:53:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, because obviously you're going to frame it so and. 00:53:40 Speaker 2: We need it somewhere that's just kind of always there. 00:53:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of over the bed, above the bed. 00:53:49 Speaker 2: That makes sense to me. So I'll be calling you. Yeah, I'll put this together and I'm very excited about it. But I think I think we should play a game. Okay, do you want to play a game called Gift Master or Gift or a Curse. 00:54:02 Speaker 3: Oh, let's do Gift or a Curse. 00:54:04 Speaker 2: Okay, I need a number between one and ten from you. Eight eight Okay, I have to Oh my god. Well, first of all, the amount of alerts I'm getting for like my Google calendar at this point, Look how many alerts I have for this podcast? Why is that happening to me? 00:54:21 Speaker 3: Wow? That's he's got five alerts. 00:54:23 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, well, well now we're going to count. 00:54:25 Speaker 3: I didn't realize we're two. 00:54:26 Speaker 2: Well you're saying eight because you just said it five. Oh I said eight. You said eight, one two, three, four five six. Okay, well you're counting that prices right, rules you win? Why am I talking about this? You gave me the number eight. I have to do some like calculating right now. You can promote something, recommend something. Just talk to the listener. 00:54:46 Speaker 3: I'll be right back. Okay. Yeah, So I don't have much going on lately, but you know, if you want to find me online, I'm I'm on Instagram at whoomp fair it is w eight MP payer th h A y E R it is. I'm on Twitter at Chris Thayer says. And my website has my tour dates at this is Christhayer dot com. And that's pretty much me perfect. 00:55:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, look for Chris anywhere online. He's wonderful. And also I was just remembering you had a You have two videos on Twitter. There are two of my favorite things. 00:55:28 Speaker 1: Ever. 00:55:28 Speaker 2: There's the one where you do the accent. Is it Scottish accent? 00:55:33 Speaker 3: It's it's supposed to be British, but it really covers. 00:55:37 Speaker 2: You know, kind of a generic British accent. 00:55:39 Speaker 3: It becomes Australian, it feels like at some point, Yeah, it's all over the place. 00:55:42 Speaker 2: And then there's the the jingle bell yes, jingle bell rock Yes. Both of those are two of my favorite pieces of media. This is how we play gift for a Curse. I'm gonna name three things. You tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. There are answers, you can lose, you can win, you can do in between whatever. Okay, okay. They're all listeners suggestions. They always are at this point because people are suggesting non stop. This first one is from someone named Dan. Gift or a curse trains. 00:56:17 Speaker 3: Hmmm, I would say curse. I'm gonna go with curse. Why Well, I was actually thinking about how poor rail transit is in the United States. Sure, so I would say, if we're talking Region one DVD. They're a curse. Maybe if you're somewhere like in Europe. 00:56:42 Speaker 2: Or Asia, Yeah, where almost any other country. 00:56:45 Speaker 3: Or something like where train transit is like makes sense, that might be a gift. But here it's like Amtrak is incredibly expensive. It sucks. I'm going curse. 00:56:59 Speaker 2: You're right, You're absolutely right. Yeah, And I basically feel the same way. An American train is always so disappointing. Yeah, essentially as much as a flight. Yeah, frequently worse than a bus. Yeah, just kind of depressing, really depressing. And there's also that element of thinking about, oh, if I were in another country, this would be luxurious, affordable and fast. Yeah, yeah, curse. I think that the I mean, you got it right. Number two. This is from someone named Susie. 00:57:29 Speaker 3: Okay, gift or a curse? 00:57:31 Speaker 2: Add to KRT to see price when online shopping. Familiar with how this works. 00:57:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am. I will just say if I get this wrong, I'm so interested to hear the other perspective on this. I see no good in this. I absolutely it's a curse. I don't understand what the point is. And I've had to do this recently, Like I thought this technology was over, you know. But it's like it's also weird because if you google something like a product or type of product, Google shopping or whatever will tell you the price right, and then sometimes you click on the item to go to the website that it's from, and that place is like, h koy about it? Like where did it in your card? If you want to find out? And you're like, I already know it's sixteen ninety nine. Just let me see the truth, so curse of course. Yeah. 00:58:34 Speaker 2: I mean, do they think they're going to trick you like that? Once you get into the car, You're like, there's no turning back. Is that what the thought is behind that? That's the only reasoning I can think. But I'm never going to fall for that. 00:58:45 Speaker 3: I'm wondering if I'm trying here, right, I'm trying my hardest. Is it if they showed you the price, like, too many people would buy it? So by adding this extra step, it's like you have to be curious enough. So it's almost like only insiders are getting this deal. But it's like the smallest step to make you an insider is that you have to click it to add it to your cart. 00:59:11 Speaker 2: Or is it like a defense against like bot buying. Yeah, but I feel like we're giving it too much credit. 00:59:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the bot thing. I'm like, I'm only ever like the way that websites monitor one another's prices. Sometimes I'm saving one penny. So are the bots really? 00:59:31 Speaker 1: Like? 00:59:31 Speaker 3: Oh man, this external hard drive is a cent less. We got to get four thousand of these. 00:59:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's horrible and like in a physical store, I don't have to take the product all the way to the cash register to find well sometimes I do, but yeah, mostly if that was the entire stores, mo, no one would go there. You know what? 00:59:50 Speaker 3: I wish more stores had what is like a price check thing? 00:59:54 Speaker 2: Oh, I love like a mid store price check. 00:59:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, feels great because it feels I feel like such an idiot. Have you got to go up and you gotta wait in line? Like right? I guess now you could maybe use a self checkout. 01:00:06 Speaker 2: If they have that, but but then you still have to go to the front of the store. 01:00:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:00:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, More store, I mean, that's easy technology to have. 01:00:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want us to know the trick. 01:00:15 Speaker 2: They don't want us to but yeah they add to kart to see price thing. I mean anyone that's into that's out of their mind. I mean, I need to know before I add to cart, and you're not going to trick me. Fine, so you've gotten two so far. Excellent. Third this is from Mara. Gift or a curse. Eating a little pinch of shredded cheese right from the bag. 01:00:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a gift. It sounds great. I'm thinking about it. I'm loving it. But I do think it's a gift. I will say that. I will say I'm not buying shredded cheese anymore. I don't know when I stopped, but when I picture shredded pre shredded cheese in a bag, I am picturing it, for some reason, dusted with flour to keep the pieces of cheese from sticking to each other. Well, and I don't like that, Like, just let the cheese do it do its thang. But yeah, I mean, cheese is good. Having a little bit is good. Having a place for it to be stored is good. I'm with all that. 01:01:22 Speaker 2: Chris, You've won the game. It's a very short list of people. It's not many people below ten, I would say on Alys, is that correct? Below ten? Incredible? I loved a little pinch of cheese. I don't have any shredded cheese currently, but if it's there, you've got a bag, why wouldn't you take a pinch. 01:01:39 Speaker 3: Yeah. It feels like a thing that you you do when you're visiting your parents, right. 01:01:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like a nice little snack. 01:01:46 Speaker 3: And they're like still buying pre shredded My parents do buy exactly. They don't care. They don't even know that there's it's dusted with some chemical that keeps it from sticking together. 01:01:57 Speaker 2: I almost consider the shredded cheese that you're kind of taking pinches of a different category from cheese. It's almost like it's a little snack. It's there. I'm not actually putting it in anything or putting it on anything. It's there for me to slowly devour. I mean, actually we started the podcast with me having cottage cheese in the fridge for three months. I like the cheese to be there for a little snack. 01:02:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened with the cottage cheese? What was the thought there? 01:02:22 Speaker 2: I bought too when I go. I love cottage cheese. I love to eat it as a snack. But there are two options. There's a huge one or there's the small one, the little one. The small one will be gone in a day and a half. But the big one, the big one, it's too much. Yeah, Like by day four you're like, oh, I don't want any more cottage cheese than you forget about it, and then. 01:02:42 Speaker 3: What are you eating? How are you eating cottage cheese? I just have a little bowl by itself. 01:02:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I'll like have it with chips. 01:02:51 Speaker 3: Chris is shaking And has this always been like a source of pleasure for you? 01:02:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of has, I mean more in the last cup. Maybe in the last four years. It's become more of a regular snack for me. When I was a kid, it was a snack. Then there was a I think, and this is I think this is forever. Society in general cottage cheese fell out of favor. 01:03:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think of it in that way. I think. Okay, that's like, you know, it's a Kathy cartoon. Here we are in nineteen ninety. 01:03:20 Speaker 2: I think does a lot of good things. She loves chocolate. I leave Kathy. 01:03:27 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you know that's another podcast and it's great, but that another podcast. I listened to it. I really enjoyed it. 01:03:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, cast. 01:03:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, the act cast Jamie Loftus. Yes, but you know, cottage cheese. I think of it as like an early nineties like dairy sort of a nut dairy diet dieting right, sort of punchline thing. And I never got into it. And it's even when I still see it, like I can picture a friend of mine actually just sent me home with something in a container. 01:03:59 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. 01:04:00 Speaker 3: And the container I was like, this looks old even though it's from now, the one from Trader Joe's. That's like pink. 01:04:06 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the one I've got in my fridge. 01:04:08 Speaker 3: And I just I'm trying. I'm trying here, you know, I really am trying to see your side of things. 01:04:15 Speaker 2: But now you vegan or vegetarian, I've been eating meat. Oh you have okay, so you could eat cottage cheese. 01:04:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm actively choosing not to. Is it like that? It's a lean protein? Is that what's going on? 01:04:29 Speaker 2: But it tastes good. It's like kind of salty, it tastes great. 01:04:33 Speaker 3: Do you eat whatever you want or are you like. 01:04:36 Speaker 2: I eat for dinner, I eat whatever I want. I have a treat once at night for lunch. It's like I'll eat whatever I want, maybe for three to four days a week, and my breakfast is just like a boring thing that I can just count on to eat. 01:04:54 Speaker 3: And is this like because you're you're getting ripped at the gym all the time? 01:04:59 Speaker 2: This is because I'm just I'm trying to be more conscious of what I'm eating. I guess as like as I get older, and like as I become aware that my cholesterol is soaring through the roof, and is. 01:05:10 Speaker 3: That I'm assuming or guessing like is that a genetic thing? I don't picture. 01:05:16 Speaker 2: I think it is a little genetic. 01:05:18 Speaker 3: I just have a hard time thinking that it's like your diet or. 01:05:22 Speaker 2: I mean, you haven't seen what I eat for dinner. 01:05:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 01:05:25 Speaker 2: I mean I eat a lot of French fries, a lot of hamburgers, not a lot of other things, you know, a lot of fried food. I'm really asking for it in a way that I eat a lot of eggs. You know, I'll go get breakfast tacos, that kind of thing. 01:05:39 Speaker 3: A lot of deep fried eggs through a batch of eggs in the fryer. What are those things called eggs? 01:05:49 Speaker 2: Scotch egg That's true. I've never had a. 01:05:50 Speaker 3: Scotch hamburger meat. Basically, have you had one of those? I have? 01:05:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet I would like that. 01:05:55 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you would. It's it's basically everything that you describe eating already come by. 01:06:00 Speaker 2: Scottish people make things that sound absolutely horrifying that I think are probably taste good. Hagis like sounds horrifying, but then it's just sausage basically, Yeah, it sounds Scotch egg sounds crazy, but I bet it tastes good. How did we get here? Cottage cheese? I want you to buy the small one, not the reduced fat, just a. 01:06:22 Speaker 3: Normal treat myself. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: Treat yourself, experiment with your body. 01:06:25 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'll do that for you. 01:06:28 Speaker 2: Thank you, And I want the listener to do that as well. We have to answer a listener question, of course. 01:06:32 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:06:33 Speaker 2: This is called I said no emails. It is the final segment of the podcast. People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. My entire listener base is. I mean, their lives are tragic, horrible, devastating. Every one of them has a problem. They need answers. Will you help me? Of course this is dearer Bridger and lovely guest. That's nice, Thank you, my b They know it is me, look the listener. Despite their lives being just devastating, they're insightful. Okay, my bff's birthday is coming up in April, and I desperately need help with a gift. We've been friends for around seventeen years, and I've known her since our embarrassing middle school era. She's turning twenty nine, so it's definitely the last hurrah before she starts menopause. So this person has a real fundamental misunderstanding of menopause. She's super smart and currently works as an engineer for a super big brother company that shan't be named. Well, we could make some guesses Facebook. Yeah, maybe they work for Facebook. Who knows. She enjoys going to the movies and reads all sorts of stuff on her kindle. We now live on opposite coasts, so we don't get to hang out as much. She doesn't like plants and lives by the motto set it and forget it. She wears crocs in her free time, so that should paint the full picture for you. I wear crocs in my free time. Thank you for your time. With lots of love, and admiration angel f Okay, okay, so she needs to buy a gift for this person who's turning twenty nine, who whears crocs. We're assuming this friend lives on the West coast, Silicon Valley. Okay, that makes sense? Right? 01:08:16 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. 01:08:18 Speaker 2: The friend and who clearly works for Google or bing or Yahoo. Yahoo, They're still out there. Don't count out Yahoo. They have held on in an incredible way. 01:08:29 Speaker 3: Maybe it's Amazon. Wait what Maybe it's Amazon? 01:08:32 Speaker 2: What's that? 01:08:34 Speaker 3: Can I not say that? 01:08:35 Speaker 2: Wait? 01:08:35 Speaker 3: What is it Amazon? 01:08:36 Speaker 2: Oh? You said Amazon? Hear you say Amazon? 01:08:39 Speaker 3: Sorry? Is this thing on? I said it three times? 01:08:42 Speaker 2: I thought you were saying ammy. 01:08:44 Speaker 3: I thought there was a rule against saying it the way that you responded to me. No, is he creating space to edit this part out? Do not say that? Please? 01:08:54 Speaker 2: She works in Silicon Valley, doesn't like plants. What does set? She lives set it and forget that. It's like crock pot. 01:09:01 Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking, right, I was thinking, like, I think there's a combination instant pot, air fryer. Oh, something that does both does both? I think I think there might. 01:09:12 Speaker 2: Be I associate instant pots with the wet yeah, I'm I'm a friar obviously with crispy. 01:09:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that there is something like that. Feel free to double checked and humiliate me on the podcast yet again. But so you're suggesting, like, I mean, the hard thing about this is that I imagine that you're if the friend works at one of the big tech companies, she can buy literally anything she wants, right and already has. I mean, she's got Crocs. So she's like living a life of comfort and convenience, and she's out guarded. She is looking out for herself in that way, right right, Yeah, So okay, set it and forget it. 01:09:57 Speaker 2: What are the little things you put on a croc? A little decoration? 01:10:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some charms that they put on, but there's like. 01:10:04 Speaker 2: An official name. It's like jewels within z or analise. Do you have any idea what those are called? They're like widgets or zappies. 01:10:12 Speaker 3: My favorite one that I've seen is it's it's just a smaller croc. 01:10:16 Speaker 2: Oh that's a cute little idea. 01:10:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that one's good. 01:10:21 Speaker 2: Onalis is desperately searching for what these could be called, and we might have an answer. I don't know if this is it. But I found something that's called a disposable. It's like a mini croc pot. But I'm not finding did you make this separage not croc pot? Oh? Now now that's this is an interesting confusion, and we may have just come up with a new hybrid product. Okay, yeah, we're talking about crocs that you wear. 01:10:42 Speaker 3: Oh we went from crockpot to crocs. 01:10:45 Speaker 2: That's why it's confusing. Okay, okay, okay, Onalise has been fired from the podcast. 01:10:50 Speaker 3: We're trying to figure out the name for the charms that you put on crocs, the shoe but. 01:10:55 Speaker 2: How shoe charms? I want to know the real minutes. Gibbets, gibbet that's all getting putting that all in giblets. Giblets, giblets, gibbets. Yeah, those that seems like a good gift you could give like a bag full of gibbets. 01:11:14 Speaker 3: It sounds so much like giblets. 01:11:16 Speaker 2: Are giblets of the little chicken pieces. 01:11:18 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, so and they come in a bag, which is weird that you specified. 01:11:22 Speaker 2: That, you know, just a bag of wet like chicken pieces. 01:11:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you want to clarify what you're talking about because after all this confusion, the listener could then go out and get her friend. She's like, hey, I know you're about to go through menopause. Here's a bag of here's a bag of giblets. You'll bitch. 01:11:42 Speaker 2: I mean, I think go either way, get the gibbets, giblets, maybe both, yeah, crazy, Yeah, it's a good birthday dinner giblets. And then you're surprised her with the gibbets. 01:11:51 Speaker 3: She can eat it out of a little shoot. 01:11:54 Speaker 2: A croc full of giblets. That feels like it makes perfect sense to me. 01:11:58 Speaker 3: Think so based on the make we had and so. 01:12:01 Speaker 2: Interesting crock crock pot, it all came full circle on way that makes me sick. 01:12:07 Speaker 3: It's disgusting. 01:12:09 Speaker 2: Well, we answered the question perfectly. 01:12:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did what we could. 01:12:13 Speaker 2: She can't complain. The friends certainly can't complain. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if there's anything left to say. Maybe farewell, I mean yeah, I mean, I have my gift. Yeah, I've got my puzzle. I'll get right to work on it. 01:12:25 Speaker 3: Do you put puzzles much? 01:12:27 Speaker 2: We did one during the pandemic, of course. 01:12:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not going to happen. Okay, you know I got this. I thought the picture was funny, and I was like, if it was just the picture, I understand straight in the trash, right, But I'm like, at least there's an element of like, it's something, it's a game, it's a challenge or whatever before you throw it in the trash, which you're welcome to throw it. I'm not throwing it, donate it or first. 01:12:54 Speaker 2: I've never I mean, I've thrown very few things in the trash from this podcast. I mean, at some point I'm gonna have to throw a lot. 01:13:00 Speaker 3: Ask guests or squirming in their seat right now, going name names, name gifts. 01:13:06 Speaker 2: That's a bonus episode. Yeah, I just really RiPP into people. 01:13:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, you should just do a Patreon where you only you just talk about things that you're throwing away, one episode per item that you're tossing, and why. 01:13:18 Speaker 2: That's not a bad idea. Actually my good I could call it my garbage can or yeah, Bridger's trash. 01:13:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you love trash. I posting photos of garbage on Instagram. 01:13:29 Speaker 2: Doing things for ten years. I think that's coming up. Fun ats tenth anniversary. Yeah, how's that still happening? 01:13:35 Speaker 3: I guess I inspired you kind of like when I mentioned into my life around the same time, kind of like when I mentioned that idea I had for podcasts no presence. Thanks, that's right before you started this one. I'm not sure if you remember. Conveniently, maybe you forgot. 01:13:51 Speaker 2: I mean, save it for court. Talk to my lawyer. We'll go through mediation or something. All right, I think I will make this some point. I am going to make the puzzle. I cannot wait, and then I'm going to frame it and I'll put it in a confusing place in my home where people were like guests will visit and be like, what's happening. 01:14:09 Speaker 3: I'm sure the listeners would love to see the completed puzzle. 01:14:13 Speaker 2: By the time. 01:14:14 Speaker 3: I mean the listeners, make sure to comment on the on the Instagram account for the podcast with the hashtag puzzle please. 01:14:28 Speaker 2: Well there they will see some element of this on Instagram, whether it's finished or not. 01:14:32 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but but now if you haven't seen a finish puzzle, you're going to be commenting hashtag puzzle please on the Instagram for the. 01:14:39 Speaker 2: Podcast listener the podcast is over or Chris, thank you for being here. 01:14:43 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, thanks so much. 01:14:47 Speaker 2: A wonderful time. Thank you. 01:14:48 Speaker 3: This was great, and again that hashtag is puzzle please. Hashtag puzzle please. And that's to the I Said No Gifts Instagram account listener. 01:14:57 Speaker 2: The podcast is over. We've we're wrapping it up. You've got to move on and ignore the last twenty or so minutes of this episode. You've got to just put that behind you and move on with your life. The podcast is over. I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson, and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi. And we couldn't do it without our guest booker Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? He linevan, did you hear. 01:15:54 Speaker 1: Fun a man? Myself perfectly clear? But you're I guessed him. You gotta come to me empty And I said no, guest, your own presence is presents enough I already had too much stuff, So how do 01:16:17 Speaker 3: You dare to surbey me?