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Speaker 1: Dots lots to talk about. Where do you want to start?

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Speaker 1: I guess that the main order of business is what

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Speaker 1: this year. He's been really good. I want to say

426
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Speaker 1: on the last game, the past blocking they kept up

427
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Speaker 1: Eli pretty clean. Unbelieve it was just one sack they

428
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Speaker 1: gave up, and I mean not even though conversely, you

429
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Speaker 1: know there's complaints about the run blocking but I'm trying

430
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Speaker 1: to shine light on the good things here. And there

431
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Speaker 1: are five and we we have five more division games,

432
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Speaker 1: and we're right, We're we're really right there. So if

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Speaker 1: we can just focus on that. In regards to the

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Speaker 1: Eagles coming up, it's a short week division game, I

435
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Speaker 1: see a big, big challenge for the d line. If

436
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Speaker 1: we can get over that would be great. It's not.

437
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: We got to try it out the guys we got

438
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Speaker 1: and and the thing that I'm really looking at is,

439
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Speaker 1: out of all the teams that we've already played, this

440
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Speaker 1: team has a quality tight end and that has always

441
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Speaker 1: been a big, a big thorn side defensively for us.

442
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Speaker 1: We've been historically historically poor. Yes, get that, and Earth

443
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Speaker 1: knows this team very well too, absolutely, So I want

444
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Speaker 1: to really see how if our our safeties and linebackers

445
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Speaker 1: can step up to the challenge and dealing with Earth's

446
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Speaker 1: because this is that's going to be the real challenge

447
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Speaker 1: for this team. And Nigel interesting point. The Giants are

448
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Speaker 1: only allowing conversions on third down this year, the fourth

449
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Speaker 1: best defense in the National Football League on third down.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if I were the Eagles and I'm

451
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Speaker 1: not trying to give them any secrets or tips as

452
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Speaker 1: to how to alchestrate their game plan. But I would

453
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Speaker 1: try to make hay whether it's on first or second down,

454
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Speaker 1: because if they wait till third down, the Giants have

455
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Speaker 1: done a really solid job of shutting people out and

456
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Speaker 1: forcing them to put the ball. So you know that,

457
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Speaker 1: to me, it's it's it's first down that I'd be

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Speaker 1: most concerned about. Correct and just hearing a guy is out,

459
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Speaker 1: so that you know, Torrey clement Is, they're basic running back. Now,

460
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Speaker 1: you're right, he's the guy being out as it's a

461
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Speaker 1: big deal. It's a big deal, guys. Okay, Ni Joe,

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling my friend. Two oh one four

463
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Speaker 1: five one three is the number. Now let's go to

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Speaker 1: Chris and Alamo. Chris, how are you today, buddy, Hey,

465
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Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing alright. Guys. Hi, Paul Hi? Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not a big fan of these

467
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Speaker 1: Thursday night games, but considering after Sunday, Thursday can't come

468
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Speaker 1: soon enough to turn the page. I concur my friend,

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Speaker 1: as I said at the top of the show, I

470
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Speaker 1: think this is one week. You know, let's get it

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Speaker 1: on all night. More importantly than me for it in

472
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Speaker 1: that way, or or the fans or what what media

473
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Speaker 1: or whatever. It's most important that the Giants feel that way.

474
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: I think they want to get out and they want

475
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Speaker 1: to get a W in the worst way. Yeah. Absolutely,

476
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: they can't go into in a division this is this

477
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Speaker 1: is a must game, cannot go to one in five.

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Speaker 1: That being said, the Eagles are pretty banged up themselves,

479
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Speaker 1: so they and they're coming off they're gonna have a

480
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Speaker 1: short week as well. My question to you guys and uh, Paul,

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Speaker 1: maybe you could dive into the film. I don't I

482
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Speaker 1: don't know if you've done that. I'm sure you have already.

483
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Speaker 1: But considering the Eagles run that wide nine on defense,

484
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Speaker 1: and considering the Giants have have haven't been able to

485
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Speaker 1: run the ball very well, it seems like Barkley makes

486
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Speaker 1: a lot out of nothing. Do you think the approaches

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Speaker 1: between the tackles. Do you think it's going outside to

488
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Speaker 1: the to the right side, left side, what do you

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Speaker 1: think the approach is running the ball? You know, for me,

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Speaker 1: I would absolutely try to run it in the A

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Speaker 1: and B gaps, specifically the B gap for me, Um,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, the wide nine will open up

493
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Speaker 1: holes on the interior because the whole point of that

494
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Speaker 1: wide nine is to create space among the offensive lineman

495
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Speaker 1: as they have to block horizontally, so that either you

496
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: get guys off the edges or open up gaps in

497
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Speaker 1: the middle where the linebackers can come through in blitz.

498
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Speaker 1: So what you what you want to do with Barkley

499
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Speaker 1: is you want to be able to isolate him against

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Speaker 1: the defender man on man. You're not gonna pick up

501
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: everybody because they're gonna have their standard four guys coming now,

502
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: probably send one or two extra guys, so they might

503
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: have six on five, which means they could easily have

504
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: an unblocked defender. But now your job is as as

505
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Speaker 1: Barkley with the ball. It's your job. Now if everybody

506
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Speaker 1: gets blocked up and it's you against one defender, you've

507
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: gotta make that guy miss. But that's what Barkley does.

508
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: Barkley is so good at making that first guy miss

509
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Speaker 1: that if he can get that juke and and and

510
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Speaker 1: you know, somehow penetrate beyond the line of scrimmage. See,

511
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Speaker 1: my biggest problem right now is that Barkley is getting

512
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Speaker 1: contacted behind the line of scrimmage on almost every handoff

513
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: for us. That's my problem. Well, Chris Paul and myself

514
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: were talking prior to coming on the air. I mean,

515
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Speaker 1: his his gains have been strictly you know, most most

516
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Speaker 1: of them, I'd say, just about darn there. All of

517
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: them have been on his own skills, you know, his

518
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: own superstar skills. And I don't throw out the word

519
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: superstar lightly. This kid is a superstar. But there were

520
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: too many uh far too many, like minus two of

521
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: minus three just because not he was not because he

522
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: was trying to do too much. I mean they were

523
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: on him almost when he was handing the ball off.

524
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Speaker 1: So here's the here's the thing. If when the Eagles

525
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Speaker 1: send the extra rusher and they're gonna send somebody probably

526
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Speaker 1: through the A gap and one of the B gaps

527
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: were you know, it remains to be seen exactly what

528
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: blitz their call the key for the Giants, as if

529
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: they're going to run against that, two things have to happen.

530
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Speaker 1: Either one, they got to make sure that they don't

531
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Speaker 1: run head first into the run blitz, because that means

532
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: no game. I mean, there's just there's just no way

533
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: around it. You run into a run blitz, it's gonna

534
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: be sae Kwan putting his head into some guy's chest.

535
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: There's not gonna be any room because the gap is

536
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: gonna be filled by the blitzer and and there's gonna

537
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: be nowhere to go. So that's number one correct. So

538
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: so a couple of things have to happen. First of all,

539
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: he's got to be patient enough. And the Giants also

540
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: have to identify where the blitz is coming from and

541
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Speaker 1: where it's gonna go to. So that if let's say

542
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Speaker 1: the blitz is coming through the through the the left

543
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: b gap of the defense, well you know that if

544
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: they if they identify it properly, will say Kwan, when

545
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: he gets the ball, he cuts to the to the

546
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: other side, and then it's gonna be a crease there.

547
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: And now the only guy who's gonna be manned up

548
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: against him is one of the guys on the second

549
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: level of defense. Now, if he makes the joke move

550
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's a fifteen yard game. So

551
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that has to happen for

552
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: Blackley to make big your to John the ground in

553
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: this game. Alright, Chris, Actually, last day, I want to

554
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: make a little prediction, um a little salt in the

555
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: world would be nice. I'd like to see Connor ball

556
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: and they can make make a big play. Would love

557
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: to say he would love to see favorite over there

558
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: play on Thursday. Thanks again, all right, buddy, thank you

559
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: from your amount to God's ears. I tell you what,

560
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: Connor is another good guy, especially in that locker room.

561
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: And he he had I'm not saying the ability. We

562
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: know he has the ability, but he he makes a

563
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: big play when a big play is needed. Made a

564
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: nice one in Carolina, and he certainly he gets close

565
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: a lot of times. He does, and he doesn't maybe

566
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: have the explosion he had when he was younger to

567
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: finish some of those plays. But he takes care of

568
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: business when he's out there. He was a very good acquisition. Again,

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Speaker 1: we're going across the way out to Europe and check

570
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: it in Denmark with Jason. Jason, how are we doing

571
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: to what's going on? Jason? He turned version of bb

572
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: K L. Yeah, I was, I was. I was telling

573
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: the call checker that y'all getting a lot of international

574
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: calls today. That's good to hear all these giants fans

575
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: from all over the world. What what time is it

576
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: in Denmark? Buddy, Oh, it's only eight o'clock here, so

577
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm not up at two o'clock in the morning. Like yeah,

578
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: but you know, like like Jay and Jay and Denmark

579
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: and Japan, all right, well what do you got first? Jay?

580
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: But but but the games are a little painful in

581
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the morning, especially when we lose like

582
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: we did in Carolina. You know, it's pay for in

583
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: the morning, it's paying tears. You know that sounds like,

584
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, one of those romantic novels, you know, the

585
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: couch crying, you know. But um, if you could send

586
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: something lights for me, and you know, sometimes I don't

587
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: catch all the you know, the news briefs and the

588
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: post gamings on it was a series. Um, I want

589
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: to say in the third quarter where we were heading

590
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: towards the red zone and Barkley seemed to be sitting

591
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: on the bench, Um, could you set a little light

592
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 1: on why that was? I know, one player on make

593
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: a game. I'm not going there. I just wondered because

594
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the couch and I think it

595
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: was like two or three calls and Barkley even the

596
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: announcement said that Barkley on the sideline. Could you set

597
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: some light on why that happened if you remember that series. Okay,

598
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the series right now. Would that have

599
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: been let's see, late late third quarter, it would have been,

600
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: right we were getting closed, Okay, that that's when the

601
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Giants had actually gotten the ball. After twenty six yeard

602
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: completion and sterling, Shepherd brought them down to the twenty

603
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: five of the Panthers. It was first down and then

604
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Eli tried to hit Beckham on a slant and the

605
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: ball was picked off. That drive was only a four

606
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: play drive. They started at their own twenty two and

607
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Shepherd caught passes of eight and twenty six on the series.

608
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: I believe Goldman was in on that areaes if I'm

609
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: not mistaken, and that simply would have been just to

610
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: give shake Kwanta rast. I mean, you know he's h

611
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Himan too, alright, He's he's entitled to get a couple

612
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: of moments to catch his Brad. Not not just entitled, Jason,

613
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: he needs it, I mean, you know, I mean, listen,

614
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: he's a big, young, strong guy, you know. I mean

615
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: he's built like a brick outhouse, if you know what

616
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean. But uh, I think it was just I

617
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: think it was nothing more than giving him a blow,

618
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: That's all. Okay. I was just wondering. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be one of those fans, you know,

620
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: like say one player made the game or anything like that.

621
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: You know, if he wasn't sitting down, we would have won.

622
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those fans. But you know, I

623
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: just wondered maybe he was a little hurt or maybe

624
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: it was just something like rest. And it's good to

625
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: hear that Coors Light has taken over the show as

626
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: far as your sponsors go, because sometimes I'm sitting here

627
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: in Denmark and I want a cool's life and every

628
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: time you want to say that, and I'm like, oh

629
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: my god, I was back in New York right now

630
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: drinking the cools. Like Jason, come on, tell the truth.

631
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Speaker 1: Are you an ex ecutive over in Europe for Coors Light?

632
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, thanks thanks very much, Jason. Yeah, okay, Pa,

633
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Speaker 1: thank you well. Based on Jason, we got to remind

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Speaker 1: Oh we got a problem on the bad feeling about this. Hallelujah,

638
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: losing his mind. Mr Illness, he wasn't jokes. I am happy.

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Speaker 1: What a glorious day. It is, such a glory day.

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00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: Today is one of the best days in New York

641
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: Giants franchise history. Finally, finally, I won't have to talk

642
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: about Eric Flowers ever, ever again now. But you see something, Charlie.

643
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: That's the difference, because Paulie and I were saying, once

644
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: we heard that Eric Flowers was out, we said to

645
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: each other, along with all the other hosts, thank goodness,

646
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: we won't have to hear Charlie talking about Eric Flowers again.

647
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: And lo, behold, here's Charlie from Portland, Maine talking about

648
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers again. And he's still and he's no longer

649
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: a giant. How about that, Charlie. I just say, it's

650
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: a glorious day. It's about time. It should have been

651
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: done a long time ago. But now we can move on.

652
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Yes we can't. So let's move on, Charlie, how's no problem? Okay,

653
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: but I hope and now you know, I know we

654
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: just signed the guys from the practice s Cord. But

655
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: after Thursday's game, which we are going to win, we've

656
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: got what seven nine, nine days before the next game,

657
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: ten days. I hope they bring in a couple of

658
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: offensive lineman veterans to compete to see if they can

659
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: get better than the guy that we just brought up

660
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: on the practice cord. So I'm hoping that that's gonna happened,

661
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: and I think they'll do their diligence and DJ will

662
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: actually do that actually. Uh, And thank you as always,

663
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: Charlie for the call. I think we've heard that the

664
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: Green Bay uh, that the Giants have asked permission from

665
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers to sign Jerry Kramer and Forest Gregg. Okay,

666
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: they've gone back into the bag of tricks, the more

667
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, Charlie. Uh, I'm I think you're

668
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: aware of this. I'm not. I'm not being uh revealing

669
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: any secrets here, but you know, almost every Tuesday, the

670
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Giants bring in a bunch of street free agents who

671
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: they work out, you know, who they work out. Sometimes

672
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: it's five or six, sometimes it's ten or twelve, and

673
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: their various positions. And they have had a number of

674
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: guys come in over the last month or so who

675
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: have worked out for this team. And you know, to

676
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: this point, they haven't necessarily found anybody who they deemed

677
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: worthy of the fifty three. So I can only tell

678
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: you the radar is on. If there will be some

679
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: very bright blip that will suddenly appear on the screen

680
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: and give them and edit boost, they'll get the guy.

681
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: But there hasn't been one yet, and so I appreciate

682
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: the fact that you you would like to help them. Look,

683
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe you can make some phone calls and dig up

684
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: offensive line by all means Jerry Kramer, who has just

685
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: been put into the whole of things, Like I said,

686
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: dig up you know, I mean, it's it is what

687
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: it is. But I will say this, um, Chad Wheeler

688
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: did show me a lot the way he did come

689
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: back into that game the other day, and then he

690
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: even talked to me on the way walking off the

691
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: field after a heartbreaking alongst so many guys would just

692
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: crushed by it. And and he was, you know, very

693
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: philosophical about it. He's like, hey, man, sixty three yard

694
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: field goal. I was like, you know, the same thing

695
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: happened in Philly last year, sixty plus yard field goal

696
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: beat him on the final play. It's it's ridiculous. It's

697
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: one thing. It's a snake bit. It's one thing to

698
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: have somebody kick a sixty plus yard field goal against

699
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: you at any time, but to do it at the

700
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Speaker 1: end of the game, when the game is on the

701
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: line and time is expiring, I mean, oh my god,

702
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: nothing and that ball, that ball was going to go

703
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: through from seventy three yards, he crushed it. I mean

704
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: that was a bomb cano absolutely lit it up. And

705
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: I will tell you this too. Um funny part about

706
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, the whole situation there is that the Giants

707
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: actually had an opportunity. They had to put one second

708
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: on the clock. Now, you folks who are watching the

709
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: game on TV, you don't know what happened. Do you know?

710
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: Do you even know that another play? Actually I just

711
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: found out about it. You didn't know till today. Ahead, okay,

712
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: tell what I found out just before Dan Colony told me.

713
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Up until then, you did not know. I did not know. See,

714
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people doesn't know. I'm gonna

715
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: let you guys in on a little secret. Okay, you

716
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: may not know what happened. If you were just watching

717
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: the telecast on Fox five, you almost had a Heidi

718
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: game situation, because you know which rules the sixty three

719
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: yard field goal, and yeah, it hit the net. I

720
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: mean easily would have been good from another five yards,

721
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: might have been as much as ten, I don't know,

722
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: but it certainly would have been good from nearly seventy.

723
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: So he makes the field goal. Everybody pours onto the field,

724
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: and I've seen the tape of the Fox broadcast they

725
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: signed off with the final. As the Panthers win the game, Well,

726
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: everybody starts pouring out onto the field, and within a

727
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: couple of moments the officials are pushing everybody back because

728
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: there was actually one second left, which meant there had

729
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: to be a kickoff. And quite honestly, the ball doesn't

730
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: start or the clock doesn't start on a kickoff until

731
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: the opposing team does something with it. So if you

732
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: kick a touchback or kick it out of bounds, that

733
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: means the offense gets to come on the field and

734
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: want to play. So what happens. The Giants immediately in

735
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: the scramble send Odell Beckham Jr. And Sterling Shepard both

736
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: back to the goal line, so they two kickoff returners.

737
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Speaker 1: That goes back to the seventies when when we were kids,

738
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: remember that used to have two kickoff returners on kickoffs,

739
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: so they send them back to the goal line, and

740
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, can No kicks the ball to Beckham.

741
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: Above all the dumb things to do, he kicks the

742
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: ball to Beckham. Beckham takes off and he's zigzagging, and

743
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: he's doing this and that with the one hand, and

744
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: he returns the ball over twenty yards, flips at the

745
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: sterling Shepherd. Shepherd gets the ball, he's zig zagg and

746
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: he's going through traffic. He runs another twenty yards. The

747
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Giants get the ball to near midfield and and Shepherd

748
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: is down near the Giant sideline now in front of

749
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: the bench, and he's running out of room. He may

750
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: or may not have had an alley. I couldn't tell

751
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: from my angle, but he then tried to flip it

752
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: back to somebody else and that's when the ball fell

753
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: incomplete and and and the game finally ended. But they

754
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: came within I don't want to say a hairline, because

755
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: that may be overplaying it a bit, but they had

756
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: something going on. This kick return nearly a gadget play

757
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: that certainly made people hold their breadths. And you folks

758
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: in New York never saw the play after that exsignment

759
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: delivered by PAULI. I need a chorus light right, Oh

760
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: my goodness, gras, But no, you want to know what

761
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: nobody was talking about it. You didn't read about it,

762
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: you didn't hear about it, you knew nothing about it.

763
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: I just found out before I was walking in here.

764
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Well you know why, because the writers all headed down everybody.

765
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure they headed down from the press box. I

766
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: don't think any of the writers even saw it. Well.

767
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I mean once you sort of celebration, you say, as

768
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: screw this, let's let's go, let's be done with it.

769
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh yeah, oh yeah. It was well

770
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: and how ironic. Years ago, Rush you may remember this.

771
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: The Giants had to play and they called it their

772
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: own version of the Philly Special, where they almost scored

773
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: on a gadget play kickoff return for a touchdown at

774
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: the end of a game. It was probably about fifteen

775
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: years ago, and and they got stopped like at the

776
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: five yard line. I mean they went like seventy yards

777
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: or eighty yards on the kick return with a couple

778
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: of funky things, and they got stopped. I want to

779
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: say about fifteen years ago. John Burger upstairs would remember

780
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: the plague, because I remember I actually diagrammed it and

781
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: I put I put the schematic in the Bergen Record

782
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: where I was working at the time. The next day,

783
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: I actually diagrammed the entire play and it was really

784
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: it was wild to look at and um and and

785
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: it's the only time that I could have remember the

786
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Giants coming close on a kickoff return for a touchdown

787
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: in a desperation situation. This was probably the second closest

788
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, because you got the impression that Shepherd,

789
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: Shepherd maybe was one or two tacklers away from maybe

790
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: breaking the thing. All right, Well, but to think that

791
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: that almost happened, and not that it almost happened, and

792
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: one second left. You know, if you're watching that, believe me,

793
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: if you're a Giants man, you'd be jumping up and down.

794
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Here we go, you're holding your breath. That's well, think

795
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: about this. And here's the worst part, Russ. Think about this.

796
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: Had there been just a few more seconds on the

797
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: clock and they had pulled off that kind of gadget

798
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: play up to near midfield all of a sudden, now

799
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: maybe has a shot to kick a seventy yard field goal,

800
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: or Eli has a chance. Well, I'm not going a

801
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: ten yard pass for Rosas to kick a field goal.

802
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: There's ten more seconds in the game. Maybe that's exactly

803
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: what you do. You have time for a pass to

804
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. Very interesting. Interesting, So you folks

805
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: never saw it. Thanks Fox. You lost the final play,

806
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: all right, And I'm sure I would have loved to

807
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: have seen Paulie Dots on the sideline with one second

808
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: left watching that, well, my face was already incredulous from

809
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: the field goal, and now I'm watching this other play,

810
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, you know it? It would have

811
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: been too much to take to see two incredible plays

812
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: like that back to back. When when I saw that

813
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: field goal, I'll tell you what. It brought back memories

814
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: to me because I remember it, like, yes, remember Dempsey, folks.

815
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: For those of you who don't remember Tom Dempsey of

816
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, big, big guy, like an offensive fellow.

817
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: I think he might have been an offensive lineman in college.

818
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't remember that. I don't think

819
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: that's the case. I don't know. He was a thick fellow.

820
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: He also club foot. He had a club foot and no, no,

821
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: he had a club And I'm not being sarcastic. I

822
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: believe he had one. He had he had one arm.

823
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: So he kicks the sixty three yard field goal. Okay,

824
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: he kicks the sixth. Brandon is looking at me. You

825
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: can't believe these young people. Wait a minute, you come on,

826
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Alex Carris, get your rattled after the show. He kicked

827
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: it against Detroit Lions. Now, Alex Carris, who's a Hall

828
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: of Famer. Yes, Alex Carris, great defensive lineman, you know

829
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: for the Lions, and an actor. He was mongo in

830
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: um blazing saddle, you know, and and and a bunch

831
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: of other things. Um. So he's comes on Johnny Carson

832
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: and he Carson asked him about the sixty three yard

833
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: field goal, and I'll never forget um. Carras calls, are

834
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: you kidding me here? We got gotta come back on

835
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: the field. I'm watching this fat guy with a half

836
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: of foot and one arm come on the field and

837
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: he's looking at the kick a field goal, and then

838
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: he kicks it and he says it sounded like a bomb.

839
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: As soon as he kicked it, I knew it was good,

840
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: unbelievable sixty And that's when that's when your kickers weren't

841
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: your soccer style kickers right? That was with a club foot,

842
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: straight on, straight on. I'll never forget that, but I'll

843
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: tell you what this one forget. Sixty three. I'm telling

844
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: you this one was hit the net. He was making

845
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: it from seventy three yards. Russ I was on the

846
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: giant sideline at about the twenty yard line. As soon

847
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: as he hit it, I knew he had the distance.

848
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: It was either gonna be right or left or go through.

849
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: And then when it went through and hit the net,

850
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: it was like, are you serious? Really? I'll tell you

851
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: that was just um, you know. And as I'm looking

852
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: at the score. As I'm looking at the score, I'm saying,

853
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: this is when the Giants were losing. Okay, when it

854
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: was thirty four, and the Giants, I'm saying, my golly,

855
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: by golly, they're gonna get over they're gonna get their

856
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: thirty points. They canna get thirty one, Okay, they're gonna

857
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: go over there. And then I go, oh no, but

858
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: now we're going the other way. They're gonna get the

859
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: thirty one and whatever. Let's just beat the Eagles on

860
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: Thursday night, how about that? And with that, let's uh

861
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: go to Rochester again. The number is two one, five,

862
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: one three. We've got I just want to make it clear,

863
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: you guys don't get any of these nineteen seventies memories

864
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: from any of the hosts except us, because we are

865
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: dinosaurs and we love every second of it. Thank you.

866
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't even was that the seventies of the sixties

867
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: that that was then? Yes, it was all right, let's

868
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: go to Rochester now and check it with dog Dog.

869
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: How you doing, Buddy? Hey? What's up? Rush? All the time?

870
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: I know Paul Lansing all that they call me Dougie first.

871
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: How you do? Yeah? I want to run something about you, guys.

872
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: Um well erin Flowers, you know, like past some said

873
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: just start getting another tap on and that's how I

874
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: want to say about that. But I did the post

875
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: game show ILL talked about with Lance. Okay, um Rus

876
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: do you remember the Giants first drive, third dog, Russian Shepherd? Um?

877
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: You know I was a russ Shepherd and the guy

878
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: I got a cornerback of safety while I was having

879
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: behind the back like he hugged it like he's going

880
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: to kiss him. Did you remember that play they didn't

881
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: call They didn't call it. Well, you know what, Doug. Again,

882
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: we've been talking about it, not not to you know,

883
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: dissuade you from from discussing something. But yeah, I just

884
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: I just got the shep russ. So I didn't no, no, no,

885
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: what don't know what I'm I don't know what I'm

886
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: saying is the officials. It's becoming like a broken record.

887
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: We could talk to a blue in the face, Douggie,

888
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: because you know what, it sucks across the board. It's thinks.

889
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember that particular specific place. You know that

890
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: the game has been totally different than made that call.

891
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: That's Doug, Doug, I would say this, I don't remember

892
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: that specific penalty or non call. But here's what I

893
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: will tell you personally, and I speak for myself and

894
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: the two eyes that I have because I was on

895
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: the sideline for the entire game. It was a gorgeous

896
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: eighty degree day. The sun was out. I could see

897
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: everything very very clearly from quite a distance away, even

898
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: when the ball was down at the other end of

899
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: the field. There were at least at least a half

900
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: a dozen calls that were of the very bizarre variety

901
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: that all went against the Giants. Either calls or non calls,

902
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: and that's just the breaks of the game. And when

903
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: you're when you're not an elite football team, those calls

904
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: will prove fatal and you will lose and that and

905
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: that's really and that's the problem the Eagles. The Eagles

906
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: haven't been scoring, you know, score like they did last year,

907
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: none at all. The secondary given up a lot of

908
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: yard is you know, So that's the one thing that

909
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: it's different from them about last year. So well, you know, Doug,

910
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: the one thing that I will say, uh, and again,

911
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: we don't want to get bogged down on the penalties.

912
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: But I tweeted it out because I was disgusted. I

913
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: wasn't and I'm I wasn't just talking about watching the

914
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: Giants game because I was watching other games. The league

915
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: has to do something and they had better do it immediately.

916
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: And my reasoning is this, These bad calls are awful.

917
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: They're they're just awful. But think about this, Doug, how

918
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: much more awful would it be if they happen. If

919
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: it happens a colossal blunder in a playoff game or

920
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, then the NFL is really gonna have

921
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: a big time, big time problem on his hand. So

922
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: they need to address this. You know, you know they

923
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: can stay sitting back and say all they want that, Hey,

924
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: well you know what, this is what the rules says.

925
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: See see where I think the problem is a rules.

926
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: It gets stipulated in such a way and then the officials,

927
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: if you will, they just depend on the rule. And

928
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: then when you approach the official to say what the

929
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: hell are you thinking about? Then they pull out. You

930
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: see see the way the rule says. The rule says

931
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: this blah blah blah blah blah, and and you know

932
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: it's all bs. It's got to be fixed to meeting

933
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: you take. They would make these calls in the playoffs

934
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: situation of the Super Bowl was still breaking these cars. Well,

935
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: well don thank you for the call, buddy. But if

936
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: you ask me, I hope the hell not. But as

937
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: I just said, that's the last thing they need because

938
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: if they make these calls as much as it's being

939
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: spoken about now, it'll get magnified like in Big bowld

940
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: lights on Broadway. I mean, the NFL needs to fix

941
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: this situation right right away. I had BALI and all

942
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: the years you're covering football, forget all the years you're

943
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: covering it and all the years you've been watching it,

944
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: have you ever to this degree heard of a continuing

945
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: weekend and week out discussion on the officials. Yeah, it's

946
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: actually been this way for for the last five or

947
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: six years. It's just getting worse and worse. But now

948
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: it's it's a worse right now, It's at its worth

949
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna make this real quick because I

950
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: know we gotta run. Russ. I had a suggestion. I

951
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: made this to George Young back in when he was

952
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: a VP of football operations with the National Football League

953
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: after he retired from the Giants. George used to sit

954
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: next to me in the press box and we had

955
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: such a great time watching games together. And George was

956
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: just a wealth of football information. And I told him,

957
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: I said, George, listen, if you really want to do something,

958
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: and I and I told him this. Then I said,

959
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: here's what you do. Find a better way to recruit

960
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: better officials. I said, here's the thing. You know, who

961
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: the best officials may be really good college players from

962
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: the n c double A who aren't good enough to

963
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: become players in the NFL but want to stay involved

964
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: in the game. Why don't you guys recruit those guys.

965
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: Let's say the safety from Nebraska who isn't good enough

966
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: to make the NFL. He's an undrafted rookie free agent,

967
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: he gets cut in camp by the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm

968
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: just gonna, you know, throw throw these things out there.

969
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: And now he's on the street and he's a free

970
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: agent and he really doesn't have what it takes to

971
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: make the NFL. He doesn't go on a practice squad.

972
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Why don't you recruit him to be like a back

973
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: judge and put those guys Because here's the thing, they

974
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: played the game. They're obviously in shape, they obviously understand

975
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: and know the game. They're young, so you also, you know, financially,

976
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: you'll be able to obviously can coomically low ball them

977
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: a little bit. You're not gonna have to pay them

978
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: tons and tons of money because they'll be starting out.

979
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Let me stop you recruit these guys. Let me stop

980
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: you right there. It's a multibillion dollar business. I'm not

981
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: saying pay them like superstar players. But you want to

982
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: know what you can pay people but a salary, a

983
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: decent salary. But the guys who are doing the twenty

984
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: five years have a lot more money vested because they

985
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: got raises over the years. Is what I'm saying. You're

986
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: not gonna have to pay him at the top of

987
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: the ref scale. You can pay him at the lower

988
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: end of the scale. And what you do is you

989
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 1: take these guys into a training program, okay, and you say, look,

990
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: we're going to don't you how many people do this.

991
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: They get out of high school or they get out

992
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: of college, and then they decide they want to learn

993
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: a trade and they go to a trade school. Why

994
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: not have a referee's trade school supported and run by

995
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: the National Football League to actively recruit and c double

996
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: a players who aren't good enough to make a roster

997
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: but want a career in the NFL. As an official,

998
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: they will under stand the rules, they will understand the

999
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: players and the coaches perspectives because they were part of it.

1000
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: These would be the best officials you could ever find.

1001
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Cultivate these guys. I agree with you, But whether it's

1002
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't care where they're coming from. It

1003
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: just needs to be fixed. Part of the problem I

1004
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: think with certain guys who are are practice squad guys,

1005
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: like you say, you know they're not making it to

1006
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: the big roster. Uh. You know a lot of these guys,

1007
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: they just never want to give up the dream either.

1008
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: And you know that, you know that can make recruiting

1009
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: recruitment difficult. But at the same point, I think that

1010
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: kind of idea has a lot of merit. I just

1011
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: think something needs to be done because I have never

1012
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: ever had this many discussions. I mean since Sunday, it's

1013
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: I've been just people coming up on the street. I

1014
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: was running this morning, you know, coming back from my run,

1015
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: just getting ready to going to car, and people have

1016
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: talked to me about the penalties, not the field goal,

1017
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: not to kill a field goal from sixty three yards,

1018
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: not old Dell Beckham. They want to talk about the penalty.

1019
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: That's what That's what's happened because things have become so

1020
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: controversial and so many games have been cost by calls

1021
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: or non calls. What do you expect the fans to say?

1022
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I you know what, it's just But the

1023
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: frustrating part is, like, like you say, the league, it's

1024
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: a good league, it's highly successful. You know, there's there's

1025
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: billions of dollars involved, and the officiating. I I hate

1026
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: to be disparaging, but it's become a nickel and dime.

1027
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's like it's a ten cent joint.

1028
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what rush. If you don't like

1029
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: my idea about recruiting the young guys, how about let's

1030
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: say an older fellow like William Gay was in the

1031
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: league for a decade right now, can't make a team.

1032
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: He sees he's been cut, he's out on the street,

1033
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: can't make a team. Maybe you recruit him. Remember Leon Wood,

1034
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: the point guard played in the NBA, and after he retired,

1035
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: he became in an NBA official. I'll give you these

1036
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: guys know the game. I can tell you this from

1037
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: a personal friendship. Uh. I went to Brooklyn Tech High School.

1038
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: Ronnie Nunn was a star player a year ahead of

1039
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: me at Brooklyn Tech. He went to g W. Was

1040
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: a very good basketball player at g W. Tried out,

1041
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, try it out with the Knicks, tried out

1042
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: maybe one or two other teams. He wanted to stay

1043
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: in the game. Ronnie subsequently not just became a referee,

1044
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: he became he became the man in charge of refereence.

1045
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: He was the man. So there is merit to that.

1046
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: I know that has a lot of merit. Now. I've

1047
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: been preaching this since seven I put this in George

1048
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: Young's n You get no argument from me on that.

1049
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: I think the idea has merit. I think, um, I

1050
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: think something needs to be done, and it's just it's

1051
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: become a situation where it's ugly. But listen, we gotta

1052
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: go on more Rick, you know what you've been hanging on, buddy.

1053
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: We got two minutes. So I don't mean to Russia,

1054
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: but you gotta make a kind of snappy Let's go

1055
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Speaker 1: to Rick in Pennsylvania and that's going on. Guys. It's

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Speaker 1: way and I'd love to show up and watching listening

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00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: to you guys since the beginning of the sea or

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00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: before the season, I didn't even know about the app

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00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: but uh um, yeah, you guys are talking about how

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00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: the Fox blacked out that last play well out here

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: in eastern Pennsylvania's current of Eagles Country, right over the

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Speaker 1: border of New Jersey. I missed the kickoff the field goal.

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00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: They didn't even show the field goal. Really find out

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00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: what was going on. Yeah, they they went right from that.

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00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: They went right from that, right from after they you

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Speaker 1: know the the you know that third down whatever that was.

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Speaker 1: But and the spike went right to THENK. I'm sitting there,

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00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking at courts and winter's jerseys, morming us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um and uh and yeah, you know and and as

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Speaker 1: far as far as drama goes, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys brought up any of that earlier today, anything

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00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: to send off anything was what happened with that interview? Um,

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00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: so I know I wasn't happy. I'm sure a lot

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00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: of people weren't happy to either. It. Um one of

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00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: the things, only one thing in either of you. Whatever

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00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: he said about heart whatever, I'm sure all that got

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Speaker 1: worked out. There's one question that bother any more than anything.

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Speaker 1: But I know what it was. You're happy in New York? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's ninety five million dollars. What do you say that? Hey,

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Speaker 1: let me let me tell you something. If I if

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Speaker 1: O'Dell was here, and or if he asked me about it,

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Speaker 1: and Rick, thank you very much for the call, because

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00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: we're at a time please call again, uh if you

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: want to call me back tomorrow. But I would if

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Speaker 1: O'Dell was here, I would say to Odell Odell, if

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Speaker 1: you don't like it, go ask Mr Marra for the

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00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: sixty million back guaranteed forget the other third at five million.

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00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Asked that was a screw up, and I I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: I know that he knows it was a screw up.

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Speaker 1: No matter what he says, I know in his heart

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00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: he knows that was a screw up. It was a

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00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: screw up. It was the wrong thing to say, that said, O'Dell,

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Speaker 1: go take care of business Thursday night. You want to

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00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: be a leader, goal lead your team to victory. That's

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00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: what you need to do. But I will say this

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: and pull verified it before that locker room. You can

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00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: say anything you want. The locker room is not divided.

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00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: It's not close to being divided. It's been a united

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00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: locker room all season long. And whether whether O'Dell screwed

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Speaker 1: up or not, and you heard me say at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show that he did screw up, his

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Speaker 1: teammates love him. Nobody works harder on the team than Odell.

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Speaker 1: Whether you or I like what he said or not,

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Speaker 1: that's the hard truth. But that right now is a

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Speaker 1: rap on today. I thank all of you for being

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Speaker 1: part of Big Blue Kickoff live here on Giants dot com. Four.

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Speaker 1: My buddy Poli das Paul Detino Amro Salzburg. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being here and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Thanks again,