1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: the old republic a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the rich 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes, 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now in the air everywhere, and welcome in. 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: A new weekend is upon us a fresh batch of 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and Danny g Radio. 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Before you say, please, please, before you do that, calm down, 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: we have a bunch of somewhat decent audio content for you. 12 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: And the weekend begin ends right now and Friday. We 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: like to talk to people who we've heard of, people 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: on the podcast who we think you'll want to hear from. 15 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: And the last week we had a great time. It 16 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: was very exciting. Joey Chestnuts a man who went out 17 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: and scarfed down all kinds of hot dogs and buns. 18 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: He was attacked by a protester. He put that person 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: in a choke hold and then still one by double 20 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: digits hot dog and buns for another mustard belt his 21 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: fifteen title. So congratulations to my new friend Joey Chestnut. 22 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Was great to have him on the podcast and that 23 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: did very well, and we thank you for listening and 24 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: telling friends about that and said, hey, I got this 25 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: little dumb podcast thing. I listened to the Fifth Hour. 26 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: You might want to check it out. And we thank you. 27 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: We do, thank you for that. So it's upward and 28 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: onward in the podcast game and this Friday show, the 29 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: show you're listening to right now. We decided to do 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: something somewhat different. We bring in one of our colleagues 31 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: I can still say that from Fox Sports Radio, Ralph Irvin. 32 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Now Ralph has a big announcement that he is going 33 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: to make on our podcast on the Fifth Hour podcast. 34 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: Not too shabby. Um, So we're gonna welcome in a 35 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: man who has worked for a number of years at 36 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. I've known Ralph since we were early 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: on in our careers. We both got started in San 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: Diego at the mighty six ninety, a legendary West Coast 39 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: sports talker. We cut our teeth at that radio station. 40 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: We know many of the same people. Radio is a 41 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: small fraternity. Ralph has gone on. He worked in Orlando. 42 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: He worked for u C l A and their video department, 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: and he's worked at several other radio stations. He's very 44 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: active in golf. He's filled in not not in years, 45 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: but he's filled in on our overnight show when Eddie 46 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: has been away Corporate Garcia and I thought, let's get 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: the man, the myth, the legend, Ralph urban On and Ralph, 48 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: we welcome you and and I'm upset with you. Ralph. 49 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: I tried to get you on. You you were harder 50 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: to book than Joey Chestnut. I had to jump through 51 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: hoops to get you on, Ralph. Can you please explain 52 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: why it was so difficult to get you? Ralph Irvin 53 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: on the Fifth Hour podcast with me your buddy Big Ben. 54 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Why is that, Ralph? Because you forgot my number. That's incorrect. 55 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: I did not forget your number. I ran into you 56 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: at the Fox Sports Radio studios. I was trying to 57 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: enjoy a nice meal and you came by. You were 58 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: wearing Hawaiian shirt a few weeks ago. Possibly yes, yeah, 59 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: remember the great power outage at the Fox Sports Radio studio. Yeah, 60 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: we have those occasionally. Well, they made me come in, Ralph, 61 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: and there was no reason for me to be there. 62 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: The power was back on right before the show start, 63 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: like two hours before the show. But but I was there. 64 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: And there's always a good reason to be in the studio. 65 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: It's called professional radio time. I'm in a studio. I 66 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: have a microphone, I have headphones, I have I have everything. 67 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: I have a board over here, I have that. I 68 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: have a there's a keyboard. Um, I'm looking. There's a 69 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: computer here. There's a light. There's several lights. There's like 70 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: a weird fan off to the side. There's a thing 71 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: of pens that that I let me show you. It's 72 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I know we're on audio, but actually you can see 73 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: me so sec here I have Look how big that 74 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: pen is? Ralph? Is that? Are you not impressed by 75 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: the size of my pen? Come on, be honest, you're Ralph, 76 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm not in It's a pen. No, it's a beautiful pen. 77 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: It's a large, giant, cartoon sized pen like this awesome. 78 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: See like I have big hands, but this pen makes 79 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: it look like I have a little baby hands, like 80 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: little Kyler Murray hands. Yeah. Sure, all right with you, Ron, 81 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean you're doing this, this is a podcast about you. 82 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Everything's great. Are you sure? About that. It's about me 83 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: that we're talking about your pen. Well, it's just a 84 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: warm up. I'm just warming up with the pen. I 85 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: feel like Ralph. Once you see my pen, you know 86 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: now we're we're bonding. We're gonna bond again like the 87 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: old days. Sure, sure sounds good, Yeah, exactly exactly. All right, Well, 88 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the real reason I'm having you on the podcast is 89 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: you had a big Have you announced this publicly or 90 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: my are we announcing this on the Fifth Hour podcast? 91 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: A major story one this gets in the radio trades. 92 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It's it's gonna blow up the industry, it 93 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: really is. And are you prepared to make that announcement 94 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: right now? It's it's it's it's known that. Yeah, I'm 95 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm leaving Fox Sports Radio. So Ralph Irvin is leaving 96 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: our dysfunctional radio. This is big news, Ralph. I don't 97 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 1: think you realize how big this is. I I guess 98 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I guess I don't. I'm just I'm just 99 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: a cog in the machine. I'm just a guy who 100 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: comes to work and does his thing. Yeah, so I 101 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: have questions. Are you prepared? I'm gonna grill you. I'm 102 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: gonna give you. This is Ralph to the third degree. Sure, 103 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: all right, So the obvious question is how how did 104 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: you come to this decision? Ralph? I mean to leave 105 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. It's a big deal, Like how long 106 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: has this been going on? Where you you had, you know, 107 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: the idea that you're gonna leave, and how long did 108 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: this come about? Well, this is more a case of 109 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: as you know, you're in this industry, uh, that you 110 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: can move around, you go from job to job. Now 111 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: you haven't gone too far. You've stayed in southern California. 112 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: I think you your entire career, I've moved. I've gone 113 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: from San Diego to Orlando back to l A, different 114 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: places around l A. And one thing that's been consistent 115 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: is my wife has followed me everywhere I've gone. And 116 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: she received an opportunity, uh to get a better job 117 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: in a new city, and I told her you go 118 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: for it. I fully supported. And you've followed me around 119 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: all these years. It's my turn to do the same, 120 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: and I will follow you. So it uh affords a 121 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: new opportunity, totally new lifestyle and probably one that doesn't 122 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: involve broadcasting ever again, which is all right. It's something 123 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: that will be absolutely new and funics writing. So you're 124 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: leaving broadcasting, this is this is it? This is your 125 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: last weekend as a broadcaster. You say, is that true? 126 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Really that as as far as I can tell, that's 127 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, I'm gonna try to go and sit 128 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: behind a desk and do work and contribute to other ways. 129 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: But well that's no fun Ralph for radio guys. Were 130 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: a couple of radio guys here. This is all we know, 131 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Ralph is microphones and nonsense and goofing around. And oh 132 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: I've known a little bit more than radio because I've 133 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: been doing video work for the last fifteen years. So 134 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a case of building something that's not 135 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: just day to day. It's building something bigger. Products and 136 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: things of that nature is you know, I've done a 137 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: lot of work with golf and talking about golf products, 138 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: and you get to know the people that design and 139 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: build these products, and they put a lot of themselves 140 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: into each one, and you think, wow, that would be 141 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: kind of cool to be able to do something where 142 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: I have a lasting legacy within whatever it is that 143 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: I've built, and that's kind of an interest of mine 144 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: going forward. Well, that's cool, and you're a romantic ralph. 145 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: You're you're following your your your wife, she followed you, 146 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: and now you're following. That's a tremendous thing that you're 147 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: doing here. Well, she's a lot more successful than I am. 148 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: That helps me, makes it, It makes a lot easier. Yeah, 149 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that's good. Do you want to reveal where you're going 150 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: or you want to be a big mysteries the FBI 151 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: out to get you? That are the authorities going to 152 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: run you down or something like that? Are you worried 153 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: about that? Because you know I'm going to to America's 154 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: playground that is Las Vegas. Oh is that right? Lost, 155 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: Lost Wages, Nevada, Yes, standing where I have a number 156 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: of friends that are living there that are excited that 157 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: I will be coming out and joining them. So more importantly, 158 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: route this is a place I visit Vegas. So we'll 159 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: we'll still get to hang out again. We'll probably hang 160 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: out more with you when you get set up in 161 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: Vegas than we do now, because you know geography wise 162 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: where you live and I don't ever say where I 163 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: live other than the north Woods. And I've moved a 164 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: lot over the years. I've lived in the l are. 165 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I've lived all over l A. But we're pretty far 166 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: apart right now, like where we live. I think I 167 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: get to Vegas more than I get to where you 168 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: live in the l A area. Well, no, because yeah 169 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: you don't. We don't allow you into where I live. 170 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: That's we We kind of have signs up keep this 171 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: man away. And rightfully so I did try. There's a 172 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: famous lake not that far away from where you live 173 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: where they filmed robin Hood the original and uh, and 174 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: I saw it. I was I was going out of 175 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: your way. I think it was for Jonas is uh 176 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: wedding thing, the receptions. I went out of your way 177 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: and we were at Jonas's wedding, and so I said, 178 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: I'm out here. I'm never really out this way anymore, 179 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: so let me go see. They have this lake, famous lake. 180 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: What's it called. What's the name of the Lakewood Lake? Sherwood. Yeah, 181 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: that's so they filmed a bunch of movies and stuff. 182 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: So I thought I'd go, it's a lake. I'll go 183 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: check out the lake. And I tried to get I 184 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: could not get anywhere close to like you're only if 185 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: you live there. There's like this exclusive neighbor where Wayne 186 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: Gretzky and some other big celebrities living used to live there. Well, 187 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Lenny has been on the podcast, you know Lenny's Lenny 188 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: has been on his foy. He won't return my calls anymore. Though. 189 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Lenny Len He used 190 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: to get He always wanted to come on the podcast, 191 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: and then I tried to reach out to him a 192 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and he didn't get back to 193 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: It's a bad job by Lenny that Did you talk 194 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: to him? Is that what happened right now? I did 195 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: not talk to Lenny. I have not talked to Lenny, 196 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: but he did live but in Lake Sherwood. Yeah, it's 197 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: a beautiful lake. Nice. I could actually go check it, 198 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: actually get close to the water. Other than the up top, 199 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: I have to look over a fence like a peeping 200 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: lake guy or something like that. Well, that's that's sometimes 201 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: what you have to be. Is that true? Well for you, yes, 202 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: not not so much for me. I I know people 203 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: and have access. You're you're a cool person, You're much 204 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: cooler than me. But you're leaving all that behind Vegas. 205 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: Are you a gambler? It's yeah, a little bit I 206 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: like to play craps, but it's not something that I 207 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: need or want to do a lot. So it's not 208 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: a big deal. I mean, yeah, you know, we were 209 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: in southern California. If we want to gamble, we could 210 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: gamble places closer than Las Vegas. We don't want to. 211 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: It's about going to Las Vegas and you do things there. 212 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: But I've traveled there so much over the years that 213 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: i have my spots away from the Strip, away from 214 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: all the touristy areas, and so that's not a big change. 215 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: It's not like I'm going there and thinking I'm gonna 216 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: be hanging out in Las Vegas Boulevard. That's not it 217 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. My my aunt used to live in Vegas, 218 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: and you know, she was around but and and the 219 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: locals always there's like weird, strange casinos away from the 220 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Strip where like the local people go, they don't bother 221 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: with the there are some Yeah, so you already have 222 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: your place set up in Vegas for the big you relocation, 223 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: You're already ready to go. You're looking for a new place. 224 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: There's a temporary set up right now, but it'll be 225 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: looking for a for a house in the future. Yeah, 226 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: what if somebody says, hey, Ralph, we want you to 227 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: work on the radio in Vegas with you. I will 228 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: ask them how much they have in their bank account 229 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: and then they will tell you the amount, and then 230 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: you'll start laughing and I will say, that's why I'm 231 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: no longer in broadcasting. Yes, let's just say that we 232 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: have a mutual acquaintance that is in Las Vegas that 233 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: has talked to me for years about coming out and saying, oh, 234 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: you could be on the air, no problem right away, 235 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: but they wouldn't really be able to pay you. And 236 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, yeah, Vegas is a weird market 237 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: because it's become a very large city. I have some 238 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: friends that do radio in Vegas and I've done I've 239 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: done the show remotely from Vegas and it's it's like 240 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: a big city. But they don't treat the radio stuff 241 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: like it's a big city. Well, it's a big city 242 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: that still hasn't taken understanding of how big they are. 243 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: For instance, uh, Tim Laiwicky is building a new arena 244 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: reportedly there in Las Vegas, and they want to put 245 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: an NBA team in and where he has chosen the 246 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: arena location is not in the middle of the strip, 247 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: and people are like, why would you do this, why 248 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: would you make tourists drive away? And the thinking is 249 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: because it's not for the tourists, Like, like, if you 250 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: live in Las Vegas, you actually do deserve the right 251 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: to have a team that's your own, that's not built 252 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: for tourists. You can have your own, your own arena, 253 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: and your own city. And I don't think they've quite 254 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: grasped that aspect yet, that they deserve the fruits that 255 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: come with being a big city. I think they still 256 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: think that they are there to serve all the visitors 257 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: from around the world, and it's an evolution for sure. Yeah, 258 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: well that is true. But I'm still upset when the 259 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: Hockey Arena was built behind New York, New York, and 260 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: then they started charging for parking around the You have 261 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: to get a credit card to get free parking and 262 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: not don't even know if that's still a thing, but oh, 263 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: it's a thing. It's a thing. I hate, Ralph, You've 264 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: known me a long time. I hate paying for parking. 265 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: You hate paying for anything. Well, that is true. That's 266 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: why I am the frugal the frugal man, the tight 267 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: wad whatever you want to say there. No, it's it's 268 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a case where again the locals that I 269 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: know are like, no, we we don't even bother trying 270 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: to park there. We we take our uber and yeah, understandable, understandable. 271 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: I often talk when I talked about Ralph, I I 272 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: when I talk about you, Ralph, I always talk about 273 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: the fact that we started out. We look products of 274 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: the mighty six ninety one of the great sports radio station, 275 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: the first West Coast, one of the great I mean, 276 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: let's be real, let's let's just let's cut the crap. 277 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: It's the greatest sports station that ever existed, damn right. 278 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: And look at the legends that you Ralph of a legend, uh, 279 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, and uh Steve Hartman, Homer Hartman and uh 280 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: and all them. Uh. It's been been wonderful. And a 281 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: lot of the people, although we're getting older, Ralph, a 282 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of the people still working in the business who 283 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: were there. Almost all of them, yeah, I mean almost 284 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: all of them are still active in in in major radio. 285 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean a morning show that's still on in Los Angeles, 286 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: some guy named Jim Rome. I think he's done, okay, 287 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: hanging in there. I think he's got enough money. I 288 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: think maybe not. Hartman's around still, and you know, if 289 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: you if you follow online, you can still find the 290 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: old mentor has has has been on this podcast has 291 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: as I am. The thing about Hacks and we I worked, 292 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: I was an intern with him. You were there at 293 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: the same around the same time. But Hacks of the 294 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: work ethic and people say I work hard, But like 295 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: hacksall was in there all day. We're recording stuff and 296 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: that's the work I mean, I I am. I worked 297 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: somewhat hard, but compared to Hacks on the amount of effort. 298 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: And he's still got a website where he's he does 299 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: his headlines. That was what he was known for back 300 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: in San Diego. But he still does that every day, 301 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: just does it written out. He doesn't do it on 302 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: the broadcasting, but wouldn't you really like to see it 303 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: written out? Like he just posted a pdf every day 304 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: of the way that he would write his headlines. He 305 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: had this piece of paper with this writing that so 306 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: tiny so that he could get every single little headline 307 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: on there uh written out in one little sheet of paper, 308 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: so he didn't have to change sheets of paper. And 309 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: this little tiny writing I think that would be hilarious 310 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: as if that's what he posted for his headlines, just 311 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: a PDF you could zoom in on and try to 312 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: make out his notes. Well, yeah, because he had the 313 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: chicken scratch going. And that was back in the archaic 314 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: days though, Ralph like, we're so old. They had the 315 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: high speed sports wire, they had the sports picker, Like 316 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: they don't even have that, Like radio stations don't have those. 317 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: They don't need them anymore because of the Internet. But 318 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: that was like, that was one of the coolest things. 319 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: When I started working there. I was like, oh man, 320 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: this is the high speed sports wire. And because you 321 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: couldn't get that information, you sit down at a computer 322 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: and there was live scores right there in front of you. Yeah. 323 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: And and but we're like, we're like the I had 324 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: to walk ten miles in the snow up the hill. 325 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: We did radio before the Internet, and we're able to 326 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 1: pull it off kind of Uh. I was gathering recently 327 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: where we were talking about old things and talking about 328 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, you had these cards and you had to 329 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: stack these cards up, you know, a mile high, with 330 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: all your commercials and your sound bites. And this is 331 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: before everything was digitized for sure, we we went. When 332 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: I was producing a show that we did called Extra 333 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Football Sunday. We did after we lost the Chargers rights 334 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: in um we Well, I set up recording locations for 335 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: every NFL game with giant reel to reel otari reel 336 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: to reel recording machines so that we could record highlights 337 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: and get them onto the air. It was, I mean, 338 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: it was archaic, but it was. It sounded great you. 339 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: It didn't sound any worse than it does today. It 340 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: just took a lot more effort and a lot more space. Yeah, 341 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: that was one of my first one. I was an intern. 342 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I had to pull the commercials. I had the commercial 343 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: log and I had to pull the spots for the 344 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: for the engineer. That was my my gig. I was 345 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: very good at pulling commercial And they call them spots 346 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: because they little little spot on little dot. I told 347 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: you what number they were color coded. We're doing We're 348 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: doing old guy radio talk here. Just sure was doing 349 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: old guy radio talk. Yeah. Did you ever cut yourself 350 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: with a razor blade cutting the reel, the reel, the 351 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: tape and all that. No, I I wasn't clumsy, No, 352 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: I I never had that issue. I was I have 353 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: fat fingers. I cut myself all the time. I was terrible. 354 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: I was so happy when they got rid of that stuff, 355 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: but I was so piste off at the same time 356 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: because I learned when I got into the business, I 357 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: learned cards, editing, you know, the real, the real, all that. 358 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: And within a couple of years of me starting, he 359 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: started shifting over to digital. And I was like, what, 360 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: I spent all this time learning all this stuff, and 361 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: the only way I'll use it is I'm at like 362 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: a small radio station in Oklahoma, which probably still uses 363 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: that stuff. I'm sure. I want to say it was 364 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: about five years from the time I started to the 365 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: time that that that the computer system was coming in. 366 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Here's the funny part. That computer system is what we 367 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: still use today twenty plus years later. Oh yeah, well 368 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: that's that's a whole different conversation, Ralph. Yeah. That that 369 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: I I'm gonna write a book someday. When I walked 370 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: into Fox Sports Radio, we that studio which you're leaving 371 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: and you're gonna leave radio and do great things. But 372 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: that studio. We walked in there and it was like, 373 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is amazing. They had ribbons, everything 374 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: was brand new, When I started at Fox Sports Radio, 375 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: we were in a premier network studio upstairs on the 376 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: fifth floor. It was the old Michael Reagan, the President's 377 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: adopted son. He had a radio show and we did 378 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: the show from his studio. Are all the Fox Sports 379 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: radio shows until they had built the studio on the 380 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: ground floor and that thing opened up, and it was 381 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: like they were bringing in executives from around the country. 382 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: It was like the and all the newest equipment, and 383 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: here we are twenty two years later and it's the 384 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: same the same equipment, and uh it's uh yeah, but 385 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: the goodness. Eventually they will move to a new studio 386 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: possibly The fun The fun thing though, is we talked 387 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: about Extra six ninety. They built the Fox Sports Radio 388 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: studios to look just like the Extra six nineties studios. 389 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: I mean all the way from from from the board 390 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: the where the technical director the board operator sits, that 391 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: whole area, to to the studio that it was built 392 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: to look just Extra Sports six nine. The one flaw 393 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: on that, though, is the update booth. It's not visible. 394 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so I always I point this out when 395 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: you were filling for Eddie or when Eddie's there, whenever, 396 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: and if I'm in studio, I can't see the the 397 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: guy that's doing the news, and so it's like this 398 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: will be at home, I can see the same thing. 399 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: So well. I mean, you also then would complain to 400 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: management if if you saw too much of me, if 401 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: if I come in and say hello you up. There 402 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: goes another email to to the boss's Ralte. Ralph's in 403 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: being social again. No, no, not not all. And here's 404 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: the thing, Ralph, Okay, after some of the other people 405 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: I will not name names you, but some of the 406 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: other people that have stepped into that chair when Eddie's away, 407 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: I have gone to bed praying that you will come back. 408 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm very bumped out, Ralph, that you shouldn't have sent 409 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: the request to never have me on your showing. That's 410 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: a lie. Now, there was an incident I don't know 411 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: if we want to get into it here on the 412 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: pod Kiss, but justin and Cincinnati triggered what I call 413 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: rhino Ralph and uh and you came storming in from 414 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: the update studio. You went out the door, you made 415 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: a right turn, you came in the main studio, and 416 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: you proceeded to just hit all kinds of buttons and 417 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: started hanging up on everybody to get back at Justin 418 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. And I don't even remember what he had done. 419 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was something going to say. You say 420 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: offensive things, you get hung up on. Unfortunately, you have 421 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 1: producers that don't exactly know what they're doing, even though 422 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: they've been there for like a million years, that don't 423 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: know how to hang up on people, and so you 424 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: had to bring in a veteran who actually knows how 425 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: to work at tels machine. For those that don't know that, 426 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: that's a machine that lines up the phone calls and 427 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: the computer program that tells Ben who's on the line. 428 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: Is it I still know how to do that? Is 429 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: it tell us? I thought it was telling I don't 430 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: know whatever. He doesn't matter. It matters to me, Ralph. 431 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: You know what it is a way to hang up 432 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: on phone calls. Yeah, and that thing you talk about 433 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: glue and tape the Tellos machine, because that's a very 434 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: expensive piece of equipment and it has not been upgraded. 435 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: People have hit it like you hit it. Other people 436 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: have hit it and button. Literally, that literally is technology 437 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: that predates our radio career. Oh yeah, I think about 438 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: that like that program. You think about when you intern 439 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: for for Lee Hacksaw Hamilton's and you had the screen 440 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: phone calls. It didn't look the same, but it was 441 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: the exact same program that you're that is in use today. Yeah, 442 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a good program. When I worked in, 443 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: when I worked in for w e I, they use 444 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: a different program, and there's so much better. It's it's 445 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: it's a little different and it's got more features, more 446 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: bells and whistles. But you know, I could log in 447 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: anywhere like that thing. You gotta be in studio to 448 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: log in. It's a big pain in the behind. So 449 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: not to be to be fair, not a lot of 450 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: the hosts at Fox Sports Radio use phone calls, so 451 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: there isn't necessarily a big need to upgrade it. When 452 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: when what maybe three shows a day take phone calls 453 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: live on the Earth, Yeah, I don't even know who does. 454 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: I obviously our show overnight we take a lot of calls, 455 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: I guess compared to the other guys. Jason doesn't take calls. 456 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't think no. I I mean I really, I 457 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: can only think of one other show that's out of 458 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: our studios that that takes live calls. Does God leave 459 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: do it? No, he does not take calls. No, I 460 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: don't think so. This would be the odd couple. Yeah calls, 461 00:25:53,720 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: one segment an hour. H Parker. So yeah, Okay, are 462 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: you saying that I'm doing outdated radio? Is that what 463 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me? Rout, that I shouldn't take 464 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: any calls because all these other guys that get paid 465 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot more money than me don't don't take calls. 466 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me? I don't want to 467 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: say that, and I'll tell you why. It's like saying 468 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: that a cobbler is doing outdated work, when in reality, 469 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: the cobbler is doing better work. And a lot of 470 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: the things that are out there. I think it's late. 471 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: I think it's lazy radio to not involve your your listeners. 472 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: It's what made sports radio the medium it was is 473 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: that you served an audience. You entertained an audience, but 474 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: you are accountable to your audience. Your audience could call 475 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: in and call you out for the nonsense that you spoke. 476 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: And nowadays there are plenty of hosts out there that 477 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: will just stay a bunch of garbage, most of it's 478 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: written for them by their producers. They will just spew 479 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: a bit and just walk away like it doesn't matter. 480 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what I said, Clay, Clay Thompson, Steph Curry. 481 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: Their time is done in the NBA. They'll never be 482 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: successful again. Here they win a title. Oh well, you 483 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: know what, they're still done and they're not gonna do 484 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: it again. I mean you just double and triple down 485 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah. Yeah, I like taking the call to me. 486 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: They're characters on this show and they're get different voices, 487 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: and I think it's good, but I do. And and 488 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: sometimes the caller is going to bring up a subject 489 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: that you know about but you didn't think was very important, 490 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: and you find out that, no, there are a lot 491 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: of people that really do think that that's an important subject. 492 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: And so now you're going to talk about it. Yeah. Well, 493 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: I follow the KFC model of radio, the eleven herbs 494 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: and spices. You gotta mix it up, you gotta mix 495 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: and match and all that. But you're an old program director, Ralph. 496 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: We talk about that. But you programmed the station in Orlando. 497 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: What kind of what kind of pet? Were you pig 498 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: vomit from the Howard Stern movie or were you everyone 499 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: loves you guys or somewhere in the middle. Well, I was. 500 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: I've been at the station for a number of years 501 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: and there was, you know, as happens in the radio, 502 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: a shake up of the staffing, and that kind of 503 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: thrust me into the program director position. UM. And I 504 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: was the type of guy that's like, Okay, we're going 505 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: to do our show and we're just just do your show. 506 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Not enough of the crap. Just do your show. And 507 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: if your show has issues, I'm gonna talk to you 508 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: about your issues, but I'm not gonna ride you on. No, 509 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: there's no wn BC, none of that. There was none 510 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: of that garbage. It was it was just do your 511 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: show and I'm not trying to make you look bad 512 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: or sound bad. I want you to perform it. If 513 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: you succeed, then we all succeed. Um. Unfortunately, as a 514 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: program director, what was my job. It's corporate radio. My 515 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: job was too spend less money on employees and make 516 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: more money in sales. And that's unfortunately what was the 517 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: signature for what I did. UM. So it meant, you know, 518 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: part timers got less hours because with our systems that 519 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: have computers, you can now automate broadcasts, you can automate 520 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: how you run a radio station. Was it was not 521 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: exactly ideal. Um. I I used to be able to 522 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: run the radio station from my home. Believe it or not, 523 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: I could. I I had the system at home in 524 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: my office, and so I could automate a baseball game, 525 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: World Series games saying it finishes it one or two 526 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: in the morning East Coast time, and I could dial 527 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: in and flip the switch sure on Fox Sports Radio 528 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: when the game is over. Yeah, that's how a lot 529 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: of stations are, right I I and I feel guilty 530 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: because we do syndicated radio at Fox, but I love 531 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: local radio. Two. I think you should have there's gotta 532 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: be like I said with the show, there's gotta be balanced. 533 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: You gotta have a local voice. But the radio industry 534 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: in general has gone gone away from that a long 535 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: time ago, and I don't know that they'll ever get 536 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: back to that point with the cost of everything and 537 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: all that. What is your greatest accomplishment, Ralph and radio 538 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: greatest accomplishment now that you're leaving radio behind, Ralph, what 539 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: are you most proud of? I mean, where we talked about, 540 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: I did a lot of work with a lot of 541 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: other stations, teaching them how to program um using our 542 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: automated system which is called profit or next gent I. 543 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of stations back in the 544 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: in the two thou teaching them this is how you 545 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: program for for games. It was easy to program for 546 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: the network, it's the same commercial clock every hour. It's 547 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: easy to program for local shows, same thing. But two 548 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: teach them this is how you implement the broadcast for 549 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: a game so that it works with the people that 550 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: plug in the commercials again, all stuff behind the seats. 551 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: That that was my biggest accomplishment. I mean Otherwise on 552 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: the air, I didn't get into too much trouble. Didn't 553 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: do anything too crazy. Uh have you ever been suspended 554 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: for something you did rough? I've been been suspended trouble 555 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: a few times over the years. No I got threatened 556 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: with suspension. You know, you get upset with doing doing 557 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: what I do as as a as an update guy, 558 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: my job is not to step on your toes to 559 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 1: your show. Nobody's tuning in to listen to me. They 560 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: might enjoy a banter between us, but my job is 561 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: to be supplementary in what I do right now. And 562 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: sometimes people will say something to me and I'll snap 563 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: back because I'm not going to take the crap. You know, 564 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 1: I've done this too long. You know this. I'm just 565 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: you start spewing bull I'm I'm just not gonna do it. 566 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't care. And then sometimes I get in trouble 567 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: for that because I I just don't care. I'm not 568 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: gonna sit and and be embarrassed. You're not gonna do 569 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: manufactured Uh. I'm I'm a pretty straightforward guy. Uh. And 570 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: it served me well. And my years of U c 571 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: l A served me well, and my years talking golf, 572 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: and it's it's done me well in radio. Yeah, we 573 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time. I did want to 574 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: get to that because you spent years. I remember seeing 575 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: you and they always had the blue U c l 576 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: A shirt on. I remember that Ralph was known for that. 577 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: You did video. Didn't you kind of create that department 578 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: at U c You were you were the innovator of 579 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: the video content right? How did that begin? How did 580 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: you get that gig at U c l A. Well, Um, 581 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy that I had intern for when I was 582 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: a student at U c l A reached out to 583 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: me and said, we need video content on the website. 584 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: And you're saying to me that I was kind of 585 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: a five tool player that I knew audio, I knew video, 586 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: I knew how to edit, I knew sports, and I 587 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: could be a talent on on camera and all those 588 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: things together meant that you could literally ben You would 589 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: laugh at what I used to carry around. It looked 590 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: like a giant turtle shell backpack that literally had a camera, 591 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: a tripod, microphones, lights, everything in this one backpack that 592 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: I would travel around with. And you I produced five 593 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: videos a year for U c l A, covering twenty 594 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: four different sports teams, and it was a NonStop job 595 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: that went from the beginning of August to the end 596 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: of July. One National championships with them, and you just 597 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: go and you try to capture the story and share 598 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: it to people and try to create content to try 599 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: to get recruits. And you work with coaches, you work 600 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: with fans, you work with the administration, and it's it's 601 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: as an as an alum, it was a great thing. 602 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: As somebody who wants to make a living, it was. 603 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: It was. It was terrible, and that's why I ultimately 604 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: left was U c l A. You know, as much 605 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: as I love my school, they pay their coaches a 606 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: lot of money, and they're able to do it because 607 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: they pay a lot of the sports staff very little. 608 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: And it's you do it out of love. It's it's 609 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: it's a love of broadcasting and a love of storytelling, 610 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: and that's why you get into it. And it lasts 611 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: until you realize, no, I need to I need to 612 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: start being more professional and receiver paycheck. Yeah, I would 613 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: say watching you do some of that stuff at u 614 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: c l A events, it was like a local like 615 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: Punksakani news anchor has to go out record everything, then 616 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: you got to go back and edit it, and then 617 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: you got to make sure it's all set to go 618 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: for the newscast and the whole thing. And you did 619 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: that like seven days a week probably for how many 620 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: years were I was there for five years And the best, honestly, 621 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: the best one was we played at football game at Colorado, 622 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: So you shoot highlights of the of the game, old 623 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: game halftime, you try and collect as many of the 624 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: highlights off your digital card. Then you shoot the second 625 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: ha half. Then after the game, you do your interviews, 626 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: you set up your lights, you do your stand up 627 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: at the field, get onto the bus with the team 628 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: to go to the airport, catch your charter, editing on 629 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: the bus for the forty five minute drive from Boulder 630 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: to the airport there in Denver. And I actually was 631 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: able to edit and upload the story to our website 632 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: before the plane took off to fly home. And that 633 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: was one of that you say, you talk about accomplishment. 634 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: That was pretty fun to race against the clock. And 635 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: that's what would be like on the road, is you're 636 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: just racing to get as much done as you could 637 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: before the plane took off, because if you get it up, great, 638 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: and if not, then you were editing on the point. 639 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, well now you see is moving to the 640 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: Big ten in a couple of years. That's uh. I 641 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: guess you're you're lucky you're not there because you have 642 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: to go to I think of all the long plane 643 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: flights going back travels fun. I mean I I traveled 644 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: every school in the Pack twelve travels across the country 645 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: with U C. L A. Uh. For football, it's not 646 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: going to make it much of a difference. As as 647 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: I was talking to people, you play a nine am 648 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: game at Perdue, you're gonna get home to l a 649 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: earlier then if you're playing a seven thirty game in Pullman, Washington, 650 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: which is when Washington State tends to play their games. 651 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: So it's not gonna be that big a deal for football. 652 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: For the other sports, it's gonna stink when the basketball 653 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: team goes on the road. They're gonna have to go 654 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: for what two weeks or something. I mean, I would 655 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 1: think quite possibly. But here's the funny thing, though, Ben, Here, 656 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: here's where, here's where you can smell out somebody that 657 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: doesn't think about their job in sports radio. They then complained, well, 658 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: I guess this takes out the whole student part of 659 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: the student athlete. Last I checked, these universities told students 660 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: that they didn't need to be on campus for two years, 661 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: skip to a remote learning. So you have an academic 662 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: advisor that travels with all these teams. They're gonna sit 663 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: there on the road. They're gonna do their classes remotely, 664 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: just like has happened for the last couple of years. 665 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: If if it's so important that students be in school, 666 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: then students should be in school. But that's been made 667 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: abundantly clear to college students that it's no longer that 668 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: big a deal. Yeah, the jig is up on that. 669 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: The crowd is like student athlete and all that, and 670 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad there's n I L S. Although it is 671 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: annoying to see some of these guys driving around Lamborghini's, 672 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: but it's good for them. Uh fine, They the universities 673 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: make a lot of money and as you say, the 674 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: supports staff. They don't get a lot of the moneys 675 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: at schools like U c A. But I we don't 676 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of time left, Rolf, because I know 677 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: you have used to do in places to go, but 678 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask you. You're a golf guy, 679 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: and that is to me the most one of the 680 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: most fascinating stories going on right now, the survival of 681 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 1: the p G a versus the the Live Golf Tour. 682 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: Have you picked a side yet, Ralph? Or does it 683 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: really not matter because you're you can play both sides here. 684 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Where are you at on the on the lift? Ten 685 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: years from now, Ralph, let's go in the hot tub 686 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: time machine. Are we still talking about this Saudi era 687 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: and live So you think it's sure it's gonna be No, no, no, no, 688 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: it may be around, but we're not gonna be talking 689 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, right now it's being talked about 690 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: because for some reason, and this is insane to me, 691 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: golf journalists are just deep in bed with the PGA Tour, 692 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: Like I don't understand why you are just so adamant 693 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: about defending the PGA Tour. Their commissioner has handled this 694 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: whole thing horribly and really exposed the entire reason why 695 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: the Live Golf Tour exists is because of this. It's 696 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: terrible management from the PGA Tour, just how they've handled 697 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: things and trying to be a dominating force. And it's like, look, 698 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: why don't you work with these folks and move forward. 699 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this whole thing about you know, well it's 700 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: dirty blood money. Then then then it doesn't matter. That's 701 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: what you think, and that's that's how that ends. The 702 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: reality is there's lots of that money floating around the 703 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, There's lots of that money floating around sports 704 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: around the world. If you if you know, you know, 705 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,479 Speaker 1: if you care, you care, what's my side? My side 706 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: is to sit and watch this to baccle and and 707 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: watch these people blow each other up. I mean, it's 708 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter. Is this last live golf 709 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: event that was in Portland, it was a heck of 710 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: a lot better than what the PGA Tour put out 711 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: at the John Deere Classic. And you can go to YouTube, 712 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: you can watch the watch the tour. There are no 713 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: commercials and because of the shotguns start format, they start 714 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 1: at the same time, they end at the same time. 715 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: It's a four hour broadcast. Like most major sports I've 716 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: covered golf, that's an eight hour day covering golf because 717 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: of the staggered times and everything, and it makes it 718 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: better for everybody that format. Now, I'm not saying that's 719 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: the way golf should be, but it's a change. It's different. 720 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: And you can give me all this statement about well, 721 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: you're paying these players guaranteed money, so they're not going 722 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: to care about wins or losses. They care. There's still 723 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: prize money involved and they care. And when you're talking 724 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: about golfers. I read this in an article recently. I 725 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: think it was done by Alan Schipnuk who talked to 726 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: agents and who said, golfers or horrors. They've always been 727 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: horrors from the moment they turned professional. They're selling everything 728 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: they can to sponsors. So why is this any different. 729 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: This is stupid to make it a big issue. It's 730 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: it's it's silly. Well, it's it isn't intriguing though, because 731 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: of all these guys that we've heard of on the 732 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: PGA Tour that have all left and gold but the golds. 733 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: I have a theory on the golf media why they're 734 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: so in bed with the p G A one thing 735 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: my experience. I've only covered a few pg events over 736 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: the year, but they really take care of the media 737 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: like they really My experience was they if you want, 738 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: you can go out and walk the course with golfers, 739 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: but you don't have to, right, I mean, you can 740 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: see sitting like a sofa and they'll give you food 741 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: and you can watch everything on television. It's a but 742 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: they do that at the Lift Golf Tour. They do 743 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: it better from what I've seen the media spread and 744 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: I know that's a big deal to you. Clearly is 745 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: is is far superior that they go golourmet on the 746 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: on the Live Golf Tour. They have ridiculous money round. 747 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: I mean all right, that they do. It's my point is, 748 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: why why are you taking aside if your media, I 749 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: mean the whole point we we get into this that 750 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: the so called sports journalist, which is nonsense. There's no 751 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: such thing, because every single journalist that covers sports is biased, 752 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: every journalists. But but you're there, if you're a Dodgers 753 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: beat writer, you're there to cover the Dodgers. Therefore, you're 754 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: rooting for Dodgers stories to happen. You're you're you're you're 755 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: not saying, gee, I hope the Dodgers get no hit here. 756 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: You're that doesn't That doesn't do you much good. It's 757 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: in this case, why are you choosing sides? If you're 758 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: a sports journalist, you shouldn't. If you're following golf, you 759 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: should be like, this is an intriguing story. Let's see 760 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 1: how long we it will play out. We can milk it. Yeah, Well, 761 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: the thing you want and the reason this this live 762 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: things good for golf is because, as you know, rough, 763 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: you don't want apathy. You want someone to have an 764 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: opinion and be passionate. And people are very passionate on 765 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: this issue, and it's gonna be interesting. Listen. I gotta 766 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: let you go. I know you gotta you gotta work. 767 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: We're recording this right before you're about to work. But 768 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: this is your last weekend at Fox Sports Radio. Good luck, 769 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: ralped My wife tells me we're gonna we're gonna harass 770 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: you in Vegas, so be good luck. I'm you know 771 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be on the air. I'm going into hiding. 772 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be hard to find me. Well, just 773 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: don't change your number and you you if you'll, you'll 774 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: be invited. The Ugly Sweater Party is supposed to be 775 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: back to longer drive for you Vegas, so you'll have 776 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: to make proper accommodations for the It could take you 777 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 1: the same time though, from Vegas to my house as 778 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: to where you're living in l A to my y. 779 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: It once took me two hours to get there. Yeah, 780 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: it's a nightmare anyway. All right, Well, thank you, bro, 781 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: it's been fun working with you. How Fox Sports Radio 782 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: this run? How long will this run? Almost six years? 783 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: Time flies? Yes, I say you're gonna work in radio again. 784 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: I'll make a bet I say you do radio again. 785 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: We never know that the bosses may call me and say, hey, Ralph, 786 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: we've never had you as a host before, but suddenly, 787 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: now that you've left, we want you to fill in. 788 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: Who knows it could have any Thank you, Ralph, good 789 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: luck with everything. We'll be in touch. I appreciate it, 790 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: Thank you Ben. That the Honda Classic Daniel Burger all 791 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: alone in first place after the third round he ships 792 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: he sits five shots off of the lead or five 793 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: shots ahead of the field. All I can say Ralph 794 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: is the real Dumah. Yeah he's He's got the hand 795 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: on the button, so don't worry about that. That was 796 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: your best update of the day, Row Yeah,