1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Well, we'll come in to your city. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Donna lay I gets. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Sang you a conscious cell, will be desire tellan and 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 3: if you want a little banging a y come. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Along and so we get it. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 4: We get that folk. 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 5: It's going to take a little bit of time for 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 5: folks to feel what the by noomics has been able 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 5: to do. I guess when I'm I just feel good 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 5: that the American people got up. 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: They've been through a rough time with pandemic, but now 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: we're coming back. They're back. 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Stay right 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 6: here for our final news. 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Round up and information overload. 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: I just round up and information overload hour. Here's our 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: tot free number at eight hundred nine four one Seawn. 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: If you want to be a part of the program, well, 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: a lot of famous people, uh whose names are associated 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, does that mean that they were 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: involved in his nefarious, you know, corrupt, disgusting, repulsive, evil 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: activities with young women. No, certain high profile people like 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton, they would be top choices 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: in my mind of people I'd be suspicious of. Then 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: you have guys like Al Gore, Kevin Spacey, Stephen Hawkins, 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: and and the list goes on and on. Now, it's 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: interesting over time that Prince Andrew now is not really 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: officially acting in any capacity for the royal family. As 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: a result of all this, some type of settlement was 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: reached with one of the women that made accusations against him. 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: You can hear Prince Andrew and then the woman that 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: makes the accusation. Here, first is the allegation by a 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: young woman claiming that he lied in this interview, and 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: then you hear Prince Andrew denying Epstein's allegations. 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm calling BS on this because that's what it is. 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: He knows what happened. This guy was sweating all over me, 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: like his sweat was like it was raining basically everywhere, 46 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: and I was just like woa grossed out from it, 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: but I knew I had to keep him happy because 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: that's what Jeffey and Glen would have expect from me. 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: One of Epstein's accusers, Virginia Roberts, has made allegations against you. 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: She was very specific about that night. She described dancing 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: with you and you profusely sweating, and she went on 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: to have. 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 7: Bos There's a slight problem with with with with the 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 7: sweating because I have a peculiar medical condition, which is 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 7: that I don't sweat, or I didn't sweat at the time, 56 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 7: and that was yes, I didn't sweat at the time 57 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 7: because I had suffered what I would describe as an 58 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 7: overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War when I was 59 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 7: shot at, and I simply it was it was. It 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 7: was almost impossible for me to sweat. 61 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Do you remember dancing at tramp. 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 7: No, that couldn't have happened because the date that there's 63 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 7: being suggested, I was at home with the children. You 64 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 7: know that you were at home with the children. Was 65 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 7: it a memorable night on that particular day that that 66 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 7: that we now understand is the date, which is the 67 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 7: tenth of March. I was at home I was with 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 7: the children. I'd taken Beatrice to a Pizza Express in 69 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 7: working for a party at a Baspo's, sort of four 70 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 7: or five in the afternoon. Why would you remember that 71 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 7: so specifically? 72 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 5: Why would you remember a pizza express birthday and. 73 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: Being at home? 74 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 7: Because going to pizza Express in working is an unusual 75 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 7: thing for me too, a very unusual thing for me 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 7: to do. I've never been. I've only been through working 77 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 7: a couple of times, and I remember it weirdly, distinctly 78 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 7: as soon as somebody reminded me of it. 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I remember that now. One thing I know 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: the media mob was looking at is well, what involvement 81 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: does Donald Trump have? Well, there were specific questions asked 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. You ever see him on the plane? 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: No? 84 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: Do you ever see him at his place in New Mexico? 85 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: No? 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: You ever see him at his place or Gee Island 87 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: as they call it, No, none of the places. Ever 88 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: see him in Palm Beach. 89 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: No. 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: And Donald Trump famously kicked him out of Mara a Lago, 91 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: apparently because of his behavior regarding women. Joining us now 92 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: to discuss this, Arthur Idalla's with us as an attorney 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: for just laying Maxwell sir, welcome back. How are you 94 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: a long time. 95 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: How are you, sir? It's always a pleasure to talk 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: to you. In warm regards to you and everyone around you. 97 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: Happy New Year. All right, So you represented miss Maxwell. 98 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: It really came down to her and Jeffrey Epstein with 99 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: all these other names being mentioned. What was your reaction 100 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: to the release of this information yesterday? 101 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's said nothing. I mean, it was a big 102 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: zero for really anyone who has followed this and studied it. 103 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: There weren't any really big revelations that came out of it. 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: And just to be clear, Sean, I actually I did 105 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: not try Delaine's case. I'm doing We're working on her 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: appeal and we'll be arguing that probably in the month 107 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: of March. But you know, obviously we know the case 108 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: inside and out, and we knew that there was nothing 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: that was really coming out here. And for open disclosure, 110 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: I also represent Alan Dershowitz in his defamation case against 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: Virginia Allen. 112 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: Professor Dershwitz, who by the way, was on My show 113 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: last night and an accusation was made against him and 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: then it was retracted, which I think is an important point. 115 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: And he even says that he believes had all the 116 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: information come out and the judge didn't release everything that 117 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: there's exculpatory information for about him, that he wants out. 118 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: He wants it all out, and he's been, you know, 119 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: pleading his innocence from day one. But once she withdrew 120 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: the allegation and said she may have been mistaken, I 121 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: don't even know why his name gets mentioned anymore. 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, I you know, I've been by Professor Dershowitz's side 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: since he was mentioned in a footnote in a different 124 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: lawsuit by miss Jiuffrey in twenty fourteen. So it's going 125 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: on a decade that Professor Deurshewitz that I have been 126 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: fighting these charges and you know, hats off to him 127 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: by by really screaming his innocence from the highest mountains possible, 128 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: and he has the cachet to do so. And ultimately 129 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: it was last November, yes, mister Fray, he said that 130 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: she may have been made a mistake, and they were 131 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: apologies issued, And you know, you have to keep that 132 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: Sean in the front of your mind because she is 133 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: a big person here making these accusations and throwing all 134 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: of these names around, and the only one who really 135 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: pushed back hard against her was Professor Dershowitz, and now 136 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: we see how that that wound up. So, you know, 137 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: a lot of these names, I mean, Sean, you know, 138 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned Kevin Spacey. You know, I believe he is 139 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: a gay man, so I don't think he's involved. You 140 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: mentioned Stephen Hawkins. I believe he's a quadriplegic, so I 141 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: don't think he was involved in any sex scandals. So, 142 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these names that out there, 143 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: including Donald Trump's name, are just thrown in there to 144 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: grant some headlines and to have people the likes of 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity to you know, discuss it on their number 146 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: one radio show. 147 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: The point is here, I mean, Jeffrey Epstein, by everybody's account, 148 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: do you disagree, you know, was involved in this? Really 149 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: what's involved in an underage sex ring? Do you doubt 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: that any of that's true? 151 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: As a crew of defense attorney show. And the only 152 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: reason why I hesitated, I didn't really get into Jeffrey Epstein. 153 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I got into Ghlaine Maxwell. I got into the accusation 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: of the Dershowitz inside and out. I don't I mean, 155 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: I know what the accusations are against Epstein. He was 156 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: either killed or he killed himself before the US Attorney's 157 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: office really got to put their their evidence on the table. So, 158 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at some of the evidence 159 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: in Dahlaine Maxwell's case, yes, it looks like Jeffrey Epstein 160 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: was doing some very inappropriate things, but. 161 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: She seemed to be the Epstein's point person. Are you 162 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: saying you don't believe that to be true? Are you 163 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: saying that? Tell me these allegations made by these women, 164 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: even in some cases underage, that there were false, that 165 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: none of this happened, and that she was unaware of 166 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: all of it. Do you believe that, Well. 167 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: It depends what you say she's unaware of. Delaine Maxwell 168 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: has been very consistent from day one that she was 169 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: never involved in forcing any human being to do anything 170 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: that they didn't want to do, or put them into 171 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: a situation where they were in any kind of danger 172 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: or any kind of peril if people made choices along 173 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: the way. I mean, there are witnesses who say that 174 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: some of these young women testified to them, or I 175 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't say testify, I told them that their times on 176 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: that island and their times with Jeffrey Epstein were the 177 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: best times of their life. I'm not saying that there 178 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: are people who there aren't young people who may have 179 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: been victimized, but there were also young people who were 180 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: flying on private planes, eating caviat, drinking Don Perignon, and 181 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: maybe maybe hanging out with the likes of a former 182 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: president of the United States. So you know, I don't 183 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: know enough about Jeffrey Epstein to really tell you what 184 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: the way I know about it. 185 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: I mean, there would be a big distinction, though, however, 186 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: if if we're talking about an adult adults versus underage girls, 187 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: to me, there's a distinction. However, as a lawyer, you 188 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: know interstate sex trafficking is illegal. In other words, if 189 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: you're taking people from one place to another for the 190 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: purpose of paying them for whatever sexual activity you're involved 191 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: in with them, that would be a crime, is it 192 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: not question. 193 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you about people who are underage 194 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: versus people who are you know of age and sex 195 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: trafficking doesn't have necessarily an age limit to it. There 196 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: are actually ways that you could get more jail time 197 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: for people who are underage. But look, the whole thing short. 198 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: I want to make something clear. I am not disagreeing 199 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: with you whatsoever, that if the claims against Jeffrey Epstein 200 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: were accurate, what the US Attorney's Office put in their 201 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: indictment is accurate. It's absolutely disgusting. But here's what I 202 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: do want to say, and you know this very well, 203 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: covering New York politics for decades, new York courts for decades. 204 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: The way when they arrested John Gotti and they arrested 205 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: five of his associates, the way when they arrest the 206 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: main defendant and they arrest three or four of their 207 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: co defendants that we see over and over again. When 208 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: they arrested Jeffrey Epstein, they arrested no one else. And 209 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: had he lived, you wouldn't have even heard the name 210 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell. That's my opinion. Maybe a witness would have 211 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: said something. But if she was such a bad person, 212 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: if she was so culpable. The way the US Attorney's 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: Office always works is they bring everyone down with them. 214 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Let's go down to Georgia. They don't just grab Donald Trump, 215 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: do they. They grabbed Trump, Giuliani and seventeen other people 216 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: beside them, but here they only grabbed Epstein. So if 217 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: there's a if there's a devil here, if you want 218 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: to call you know, you want to call him out. 219 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: It's Jeffrey Epstein and everyone else maybe collateral damage or 220 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to call him that 221 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: made it that Monday morning quarterbacking. But here's what's really ironic, though, 222 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, and I know you can wrap your for 223 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: traint around this one. This is the sex trafficking ring 224 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: of young women being abused by men, and the only 225 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: human being who's incarcerated for this, who's been charged with 226 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: this is a woman. 227 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk more 228 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: with Arthur Idalla. He is the attorney UH for just 229 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: Line Maxwell. And anyway, we'll continue our discussion about the 230 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: document dumb yesterday as it relates to Jeffrey Epstein. We'll 231 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: get to your calls coming up as well. Eight hundred 232 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: and ninety four to one, Shawn our number. I will 233 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: continue now with Arthur Idallah. He is, by the way, 234 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: the attorney UH for just Line Maxwell actually on this 235 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: appeal that she has coming up, this in relation to 236 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: the big document dump as relates to Jeffrey Epstein. Look, 237 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean here's the problem, you know, Arthur, is that 238 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: we're looking at the possibility here that we have, you know, 239 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: these very rich, powerful men, I mean, to be on 240 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: an island, or be in a resort, or to be 241 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: in a location and then to have these very specific 242 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: charges laid out against you. You know, where there's a 243 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: lot of smoke like that. A lot of people are 244 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: going to believe this fire. Do you think there's no fire? 245 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: Well, here's here's where I'm tainted. And since you had 246 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: him on your show Life and I can talk about it, 247 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: is Professor Dershowitz. When we first came into this case, 248 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: she's saying Dershowitz was on the island and sexually abused her. 249 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: And yes, you know what, Alan Dershuis was on the 250 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: island with his wife, with his twelve year old daughter, 251 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: I think she was at the time eleven or twelve 252 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: year old daughter at the time, and there were no 253 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: women there. Jeffrey Epstein had just purchased the island. They 254 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: were actually worked there, like still putting the island together. 255 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: So you have someone saying a happened, and then when 256 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: you dig through it, over years years, Alan's been fighting this, 257 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: it turns out, you know, this person says, I may 258 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: have made a mistake, maybe it wasn't Alan Tertius who 259 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: did this to me several. 260 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: That's but he's the only one that that happened to it, 261 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: I would argue. But his forceful denials and public denials 262 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: and his willingness to challenge this at any level probably 263 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: led to the maybe I made a mistake here, but. 264 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: There were I have no problem telling you show there 265 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: were a lot of people who were who were criticizing me, 266 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: even as well as Alan. There's that I guess Shakespearean expression, 267 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, thou who'd protests too much, saying, oh, Alan 268 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: is just going on the offense as a good defense, 269 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: but he must have done something wrong here. We knew 270 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: the whole time that he didn't. Am I saying that 271 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: I know whether Jeffrey Epstein had other people on this 272 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: island who these things. I absolutely am not. But you know, 273 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: I just had a bad experience, a very bad experience 274 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: with the people who are making these accusations here regarding 275 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: someone who not only is my client, he's a dear 276 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: friend of mine and he's a mentor, and I respect 277 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: him so much. So I'm being very honest. You know, 278 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm very tainted in my reaction. 279 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you're tainted. I've known Alan 280 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: Dershowitz for decades. I didn't believe it, and I listened 281 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: to his passionate uh, you know, cries of innocence, and 282 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: I still believe, unlike a lot of people, in the 283 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: presumption of innocence. And I don't rush the judgment. And 284 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but you know, I would 285 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: like to get to the bottom of it, and anybody 286 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: that was involved with Epstein that was guilty of this, 287 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: I hope we find out who those people are. But 288 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: we'll watch the case closely anyway, Arthur Idollah, great to 289 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: talk to you again. It's been a long time. Thank 290 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: you for being willis. 291 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Sean, Thank you so much. 292 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and nine to four one, Seawn our number. 293 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: You want to be a part of the program, your calls, 294 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: your comments coming up straight ahead. All right, let's get 295 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: to our busy phones. Many of you really patient today. 296 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: We're very grateful. Clay in Michigan. Next Sean Hannity Show, Clay, 297 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: how are you glad you called? Sir? 298 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: Happy New Year, Sean and I have to become the 299 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 5: strongest advocate for Katie. 300 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: She needs a raise. 301 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 5: That's one of the best call screeners I have ever met. 302 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: Why are you sucking up to Kate? Why are you 303 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: sucking up to the call screener? Why you Why are 304 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: you just slobbering here? I mean because you want to 305 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: get on more often. 306 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: I'm just guessing, of course, because after thirty years and 307 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 5: listening to uston Phil Donaghue days, this is my I'm 308 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: talking to. 309 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: You. 310 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 5: Used to talk to Rush quite a bit, but that's 311 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: the first time I've called in and I got to 312 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: tell you she kept it informed. She does a great job. 313 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 5: And keep up the great work, Katie. Make sure Sean 314 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 5: Hannity gives you a raise. He can afford it. 315 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: But okay, now you're saying everything that's true about Katie. Agree. 316 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: If you used to call Russia show, that means you 317 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: talked to both Snurtley, you know James aka James Golden, 318 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: who's a dear friend of ours, and that all means that. 319 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever got there was a 320 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: show within the Rush Limbas show, and that was James 321 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: Golden screening calls for Rush. I mean he would be 322 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: battling fighting, I mean it was you had to see 323 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: it to believe it. It was so good. 324 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: It was so good because the idea of a great 325 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: call screener is to make the host look good. 326 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: We know that. 327 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: And Katie keeps the waiters on the line informed and 328 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 5: I and I do this with parton parcel By. I'm 329 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: not the level that you are, however, it's fantastic listening. 330 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 5: But when we call in the Rush years ago, I 331 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 5: mean you'd fill in for him. Of course. Man, we 332 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: used to love what listening to Hannity filling in for Rush, 333 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: And you were one of the ones that got me 334 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: inspired to do this. You know, nonsensical ravings we do 335 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 5: on radio, as you know, as they say, So wait. 336 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: A minute, So are you hosting your own show? 337 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: I'm a podcaster of so whiss Mine is called The 338 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: Bald Eagle Show. But yeah, good. 339 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: For you, by the way, good for you, and I 340 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: hope people that'd be awesome. 341 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 5: They are. You're gonna get about five hundred more listeners 342 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 5: today because I told I'm all being on there at 343 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: three o'clock or whatever it is in Michigan. 344 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: So but I want what's on your mind today. 345 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: I want to congratulate your first I'm finally moving to Florida. 346 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: From someone who's stuck here in Michigan. I know how 347 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 5: you felt there in New York, and don't apologize for it, Sean. 348 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 5: That is my biggest frustration with you. 349 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 2: What if I ever apologize. I'm not apologetic at all. 350 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm energized by it. I'm 351 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: happy about it, and I'm glad I was able to 352 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: finally do it. 353 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 5: Well, you kind of did it last night. You're like, well, 354 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: I maybe waiting too long, and maybe I did. Sean, 355 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 5: you did it is the key. I'm glad you did. 356 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 5: There was a time when Sean Hannity was as decisive 357 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: and as on point as anybody I ever listened to. 358 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 5: The only frustration I ever seem to have with you, Sean, 359 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 5: is that you like to play it safe sometimes when 360 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 5: it comes to this boycott stuff already. And I know 361 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 5: you've explained it before on your show, but people like 362 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: Dylan mulvaney or Target or Disney, these are the same 363 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 5: way that want to boycott you. And I get you 364 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 5: want to play it safe and not offend the workers 365 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: and so on and so forth, But honestly, would you 366 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 5: want to work for a company that makes awful decisions 367 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 5: so yes, I'm not an advocate of boycott the whole world. However, 368 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 5: those jokers that have hurt their own company, if you 369 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: work for them and you are complicit in their bad decisions, 370 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 5: where's their union? It's my question. 371 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: These Well, let me just correct one thing you're saying. 372 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: You're right about that. I don't support boycotts. I don't 373 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: call for firings and cancelations. But your reasoning, or you're 374 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: perceived reasoning that I'm doing it to quote play it safe, 375 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: is not accurate. It's that I am a believer in freedom, 376 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 2: and I take that believe very seriously. What do I 377 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: mean by that? For example, I'm not telling anybody whether 378 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: they should buy bud Light or not buy bud Light. 379 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: I just don't want to participate. I'll tell you why. 380 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: In that case, I didn't want the guys to work 381 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: in the factory, the guys that load the trucks, the 382 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: guys that pay for the routes to lose any money. 383 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: I talked to one route owner the other day and 384 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: he said it was his worst year in the beer industry, 385 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: and he's been doing it for decades. So my friend 386 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: John Gomez was having dinner with him and he called 387 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: me and we talked to them. I talked to this guy. 388 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: There's a nice guy. So there are reasons as long 389 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: as everybody has the freedom. If your choice is I 390 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: don't like what they did at Anheuser Bush and therefore 391 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to boycott them, well, I support the freedom 392 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: that allows you to make that choice, you know, And 393 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: if somebody doesn't want to watch a show or listen 394 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: to a show, they don't have to. And so for me, 395 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: it's about the principles. That has nothing to do. What 396 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: am I playing safe here? If I say, you know, 397 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: I support a boycott, how is that safe? 398 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: Well? 399 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: What am I saving myself from? 400 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: Got it? 401 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 5: My own respectful pushback on that, Sean is that these 402 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 5: laborers that we feel so sorry for consistently when their 403 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 5: executives make ridiculously bad decisions. I mean, what possible good 404 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 5: could have? Well of Bud like, look, let me finish 405 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: and then I'll go ahead and give you the floor 406 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 5: on that one, because I don't want to take your 407 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: time up forever. But these people that work for these 408 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 5: companies need to also stand up. They have unions, they 409 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 5: pay dues. If we are feeling bad for laborers that 410 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: are unwilling to speak up against a company that is 411 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: making a bad decision that will affect them. I feel 412 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: bad for that laborer, but do you truly want to 413 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 5: work for someone? 414 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: You are way too dismissive of people that think about this. 415 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: Let's say you have one of the beer routes that 416 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: you paid a lot of money for investing a lot 417 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: of money in, and now you're making half what you 418 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: used to make. Or let's say you work in a 419 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: beer factory, or let's say you drive one of those 420 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: trucks and now you're making a lot less money, or 421 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: in the case of many that got fired as a result. 422 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 2: These these were high paying career jobs for people, and 423 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: you're just very nonchalantly saying that they can walk away 424 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: from their career job and me, while they got a 425 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: mortgage to pay or rent to pay, they got a 426 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: car payment, they got to meet, they got kids to 427 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: send to college. You really, you're being way too casual 428 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: with people because you should just walk away because they 429 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: didn't like one decision that their parent company made. It's 430 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: it's not that simple for people. And I know maybe 431 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: in principle, sure we'd all like to be the most 432 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: principal people but you know what, they've got responsibilities. They've 433 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: got they've got kids they've got to feed, They've got 434 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: healthcare bills that they've got to pay, They've got car 435 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: payments and house payments that they've got to pay. And 436 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, over Dylan mulvaney, do you really want to 437 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: leave a career job. Even though they should have apologized 438 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: and should have resolved this a lot quicker, I think 439 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: they've made a really loud statement by partnering with Dana 440 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: White and the UFC. I think that was their way 441 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: of saying, you know what, we're done with this, and 442 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: we're going to tell the world we're done with it 443 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: because you're never gonna silence Dana White. You're never gonna 444 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: shut him down ever. And they knew that, and they 445 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: did it anyway. That might have been their roundabout way 446 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: of apologizing to me. So I'm kind of surprised you're 447 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: so casually, you know, saying, well, if your company makes 448 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: a bad decision, you need to walk away. It's not 449 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 2: so simple. 450 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: But the bottom line is shown there's ten thousand other 451 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: beer makers out there. 452 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: Okay, if Buckey, but if you've been there fifteen twenty 453 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: years and you're about to get a pension. Why would 454 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: you walk away from that? 455 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 5: Because if you can't, just mean, what are you're going 456 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: to do? So bud Light goes out of business, They're 457 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 5: not going to have beer anymore. There's millions of other 458 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 5: places to drive for Listen. 459 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: Thousands of people lost their jobs as a result of this, 460 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: and those jobs are career jobs for many people. 461 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 5: Then they should be the loudest and proudest protesters of 462 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 5: the nonsensical decisioncies companies make. Otherwise, if they're quiet about 463 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 5: it just because they're afraid to speak up against their boss, 464 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: then they're going to continue to allow bad decisions to 465 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: be made at that executive level. That's what I'm basically saying. 466 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 2: No, I think they should be able to speak up 467 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: and have the opportunity to speak up. But you know what, 468 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: a lot of times, a lot of companies, you speak 469 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: up and right there your career is pretty much over. 470 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: You gotta be careful, Listen, life can be too. You're 471 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: breaking this down into take a stand on principle and 472 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: go down with the ship. And I'm just telling you, 473 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: if you are the breadwinner and you have responsibilities and 474 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: you have a family to take care of You can't 475 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: be that nonchalant. You just can't. But if that's what 476 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: you choose to do, I respect your choice. I would 477 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 2: respect your right to speak up and speak out. And 478 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: if you're willing to pay the consequences, pay them. You 479 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: know you got to. You gotta pick the hill you're 480 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: gonna die on. I mean, let me ask you. For example, 481 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: you have a significant other in your life. 482 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: You're married, divorced, got a girl, okay, and two daughters 483 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: and a granddaughter. 484 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: Okay. So you get to a point where maybe I 485 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: have a disagreement with your girlfriend, okay, at well some point, 486 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: maybe it's a deal breaker. Maybe it's your ugh, you 487 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: got to compromise, Maybe it's you you have to do 488 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: something you really don't want to do, but you do 489 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: it because you care about the other person and their feelings. 490 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 2: You know, in this case, you don't know the circumstances 491 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: people are living under. You don't know the financial responsibilities 492 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: they have behind those jobs. And I just think you 493 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: should be a little more considerate and understanding of the 494 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: position that they've all been put in, granted by idiots 495 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: in some marketing department that made a really dumb decision 496 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: and then the poor handling by Budweiser or Anheuser Bush management. 497 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: I think they just doubled down on stupid and they 498 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: let it extend out much further than it should have gone. 499 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: Now that does not then you've got to look at 500 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: mitigating circumstances. And Dana White made this point how hard 501 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: it is to get one of those routes. It's nearly impossible. 502 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: It's nearly impossible. People that get the routes, they hang 503 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: on to it for their entire life, and then often 504 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: they'll hand it off to a family member. So those 505 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: routes don't not readily available. I'll just get another route, 506 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: It's not that simple and make as much money. And 507 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: they invested their own money in this. And as I 508 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: talked to this guy, is just last night, I get 509 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: a call from my buddy Gomez. He says, hey, Hanny, 510 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 2: I want you to meet a friend of mine. He's 511 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: over for dinner. And he started telling me, you know, 512 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: the impact that this Budweiser boycott had directly on him. 513 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: And he's been in the beer business for decades, the 514 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: worst year he's ever had, and you know what, my 515 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: heart goes out to him. I don't want people to 516 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: suffer needlessly. All right, Clay, I'm gonna let you go. 517 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 5: Man. 518 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: Good luck to you, God bless you. Tommy Texas. Next 519 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: Sean Hannity Show. 520 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 6: Hi Sean, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my call. 521 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: What's going on? 522 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 6: Well, the dittos to what you just shared with that 523 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 6: previous caller, and you got me thinking. I worked for 524 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 6: an Anheuser Busch distributor many many years ago in central Texas, 525 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 6: and that's right when Bud Light overtook Miller Lte is 526 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 6: the number one brand light beer, and we sold figuratively 527 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 6: literally truckloads and more. I'm thinking back, if I was 528 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 6: still there, that would have absolutely affected my income big time. 529 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: This guy said the worst year he's ever had. He's 530 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: had to make, you know, financial decisions as a result 531 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: of the declining income. Look, most people think when they 532 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: have a career job, they make financial decisions. Okay, I 533 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: can pay my mortgage, rent, car payment, and put enough 534 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: money away for retirement and my kids at college education. 535 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: Those are the decisions that would go out the window 536 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: when somebody makes a dumb decision like they did in 537 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: this particular case. But that's why I thought about those 538 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: people before I thought about you know, one dumb decision 539 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: by whoever made it. 540 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 6: Sure, sure no, and I agree. And I will also say, Katie, 541 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 6: you do a great job. I'm not sucking up, but 542 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 6: she does do a great job. 543 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: I heard. 544 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: But no, no, by the way, you are totally sucking it. 545 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: But it's fine. She does do a great job. 546 00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: Man. 547 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: Hey, Linda, you're getting left out today. It's like people 548 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: don't remember you because you've got your laryngitis. 549 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 6: I love it on Linda because of her laryngitis. 550 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: See that. 551 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, some people like her more with laryngitis. I'm getting 552 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: notes all day yesterday. 553 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 6: I hope she's close enough to slap you. No teasing, 554 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 6: of course, hey, listen to the real. 555 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: So she's in her free state of Pennsylvania and I'm 556 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: in my free state of Florida. But go ahead. 557 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 6: Has to be some long arms. So, as I expressed 558 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 6: to Katie, and this is somewhat rhetorical, and you don't 559 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 6: have the entwer and you don't have the time to 560 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 6: answer it. I got a phone call yesterday, and this 561 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 6: is what prompted me to call your show. I got 562 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 6: a phone call yesterday from from somebody with Ted Cruz campaign. 563 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 6: You know want me to contribute money, and I often 564 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 6: get phone calls from the R and C because my 565 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 6: wife and I've been contributors for a long, long, long time. 566 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 6: We don't give a lot of money, but we give 567 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 6: what we can. We're small business owners in Texas and 568 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 6: and we want to support the conservative way of life 569 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 6: and get hopefully get this country back on the right track. 570 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 6: Living in Texas, we are first hand to see the 571 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 6: border crisis, uh and all the people that are affiliated 572 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 6: with it, the homeless crisis in Austin is is is tough? 573 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 6: My question is and again it's it's a tough win 574 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 6: and probably long answer. What what are the Republicans going 575 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 6: to do? And this is my, uh, my concern. It 576 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 6: causes the tremendous amount of trepidation for me and my 577 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 6: friends to continue to give money, to give money, to 578 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 6: give money to support, you know, the Republicans and the 579 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 6: Conservatives when it only. 580 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: Because I'm running out of time. I want to give 581 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: you an answer that's that hopefully meaningful to you. Ted 582 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: Cruz has been the one of the top conservative leaders 583 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: in the US Senate. He is being targeted. They'll spend 584 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: more than what Beto Bozo spent the last time Ted 585 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: ranfurriial election. Ted Cruz is a fighter. Ted Cruz stands 586 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: on principle. He's been great in sounding the alarm about 587 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: the border. Both he and Governor Abbott have been terrific. 588 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: And I could just tell you if there's one person, 589 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: if you want my recommendation, that does need support because 590 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: he is being targeted, it's Ted Cruz. We need Ted 591 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: Cruz in the Senate. He's that good and I don't 592 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: want to lose him anyway. I just have to let 593 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: you go because of the constraints of Tom. I do 594 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: appreciate the call, my friend, God bless you. All Right, 595 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: that's going to wrap things up in today. Hannity Tonight 596 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: nine Eastern. Oh, the great Senator Kennedy of Louisiana. You 597 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: never want to miss him. Jonathan Turley tonight, Charlie Hurt, Kaylee, 598 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: maganany Wnes, previous President Trump's attorney Alena Haba, Pam BONDI 599 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: much more. Set your DVR. Hannity at nine on the 600 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: Fox News Channel, see you tonight. Back here from the 601 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: Free State of Florida tomorrow. Thank you for making this 602 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: show possible.