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Speaker 1: about ten years old, some friends and I had a
Speaker 1: sleepover in the weeks leading up to Christmas. That night,
Speaker 1: as we stayed up late watching television, we chanced upon
Speaker 1: a curious BBC drama that immediately caught our attention. It
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Speaker 1: and despite having little understanding of the genre, it was
Speaker 1: clear from the moment we saw it that we were
Speaker 1: watching a ghost story set in Victorian times. From what
Speaker 1: we could tell, it seemed to be about a man
Speaker 1: named Arthur Kipps who'd been dispatched to the country to
Speaker 1: put someone's affairs in order, a woman whose recent death
Speaker 1: had cast a troubling spell over the local community. But
Speaker 1: before long we were introduced to the true star of
Speaker 1: the show, a woman attired in black morning dress, first
Speaker 1: seen attending the funeral of Kipps's recently deceased client, her
Speaker 1: face fixed with a cold, unyielding, malignant stare. She was,
Speaker 1: of course, the Woman in Black, which, as we later
Speaker 1: found out, was the name of the film, and she
Speaker 1: was just about the most chilling thing I'd ever seen.
Speaker 1: Based on Susan Hill's uponymous nineteen eighty three novel, the
Speaker 1: BBC's nineteen eighty nine adaptation remains one of my favorite
Speaker 1: films of all time. When asked once what inspired the story,
Speaker 1: Hill replied that her chief ingredient was atmosphere, which I
Speaker 1: think sums it up perfectly. Some have suggested she might
Speaker 1: also have found inspiration from a little known haunting said
Speaker 1: to have taken place in Cheltenham back in the eighteen eighties.
Speaker 1: This is that story you're listening to, Unexplained, and I'm
Speaker 1: Richard mc lean smith. In December eighteen eighty four, a
Speaker 1: then forty one year old Frederick Myers, founding member of
Speaker 1: the famed Society of Psychical Research, which had been established
Speaker 1: only the year before, received a letter from his friend
Speaker 1: John Graham regarding a possible haunting that he might want
Speaker 1: to look into. As Graham explained, a friend of his,
Speaker 1: Captain Frederick Despard, had for the past two years been
Speaker 1: renting a large townhouse in Cheltenham, where he lived with
Speaker 1: his wife and their eight children. In recent weeks, they'd
Speaker 1: come to believe that their house was haunted. Myers is
Speaker 1: thought to have first become interested in psychical research after
Speaker 1: being unsettled by the publication of Charles Darwin's On the
Speaker 1: Origin of the Species, which for many scientifically minded Christians
Speaker 1: like Myers, had seriously disrupted the notion that a God
Speaker 1: had created human beings, and with no God there could
Speaker 1: be no heaven or any other after life to speak of.
Speaker 1: Desperate to find evidence to the contrary, Myers contacted Captain
Speaker 1: Despard requesting permission to visit his home to conduct his
Speaker 1: own investigation into the matter. At first, Despard was reluctant
Speaker 1: to speak publicly about it out of concern on his
Speaker 1: landlord's behalf for the value of the property, which he
Speaker 1: feared could decrease if it developed a reputation for being haunted.
Speaker 1: Over the next year or so, Myers persevered until Despard
Speaker 1: finally agreed to his request, and so it was in
Speaker 1: May eighteen eighty six that Myers arrived at the gates
Speaker 1: of Garden Reach, the grand double fronted, four story Victorian
Speaker 1: residence as it has been described, on the corner of
Speaker 1: Pitfill Circus Road and All Saints Road in Cheltenham. The
Speaker 1: house derived its name from the property's extensive garden and orchard,
Speaker 1: which Myers could see tacked alongside the house on its
Speaker 1: left side, before disappearing somewhere behind it. A short time later,
Speaker 1: he was led into the drawing room, where the apparent
Speaker 1: ghost had most often been seen, and where the sixty
Speaker 1: three year old Captain Desbarred and his twenty three year
Speaker 1: old daughter Rosina were waiting to tell him all about it.
Speaker 1: Back in eighteen fifty eight, Frederick Desbarred was living in
Speaker 1: Rome with his wife Rosina and their two year old
Speaker 1: daughter Frederica, when Rosina died unexpectedly at the age of
Speaker 1: twenty four Later that year, Frederick remarried, and by eighteen
Speaker 1: eighty two, along with his second wife, Harriot, had had
Speaker 1: another eight children, nineteen year old Rosina, seventeen year old Edith,
Speaker 1: sixteen year old Florence, fifteen year old Henry, thirteen year
Speaker 1: old Lilian, twelve year old Mabel, ten year old Frederick,
Speaker 1: and lastly the six year old Wilfrid. Having traveled the
Speaker 1: world extensively due to Frederick's job as a captain in
Speaker 1: the British Army, and with Harriot becoming increasingly poorly in
Speaker 1: her later life, the Despards decided to settle in Cheltenham,
Speaker 1: and in April eighteen eighty two they moved into Garden Reach,
Speaker 1: with three floors and eight bedrooms for the family. It
Speaker 1: also comprised a basement floor with live in quarters for
Speaker 1: their servants. As Rosina explained to Myers, the family knew
Speaker 1: nothing about the house's history before they moved in, and
Speaker 1: had heard nothing about it potentially being haunted, but in hindsight,
Speaker 1: the signs had always been there. One afternoon, for example,
Speaker 1: not long after they'd moved in, Rosina was taking a
Speaker 1: pleasant stroll through the orchard when one of the family dogs,
Speaker 1: a large black Retriever, came bounding up to her in
Speaker 1: a strangely agitated state. The dog simply wouldn't stop barking
Speaker 1: as it kept its eyes firmly fixed on something in
Speaker 1: the middle distance. Rosina tried her best to calm it
Speaker 1: down as she scanned the garden for any sign of
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Speaker 1: months after moving into their new home, Rosina was in
Speaker 1: her room on the second floor, lying in bed as
Speaker 1: one of the family's dogs, a small sky terrier, was
Speaker 1: sleeping quietly at the end of it. Just as Rosina
Speaker 1: was about to blow out the candle, the dog's ears
Speaker 1: pricked up, suddenly, seeming to hear something from outside. It
Speaker 1: leaped off the bed and raced over to the door,
Speaker 1: where it proceeded to yelp and scratch at the gap
Speaker 1: underneath it. Rosina got up and wandered over to the door,
Speaker 1: but when she opened it, the hallway was completely empty.
Speaker 1: She looked at the frightened dog with confusion, then picked
Speaker 1: her up and took her back to bed. A few
Speaker 1: nights later, Rosina was prepared hearing for bed on her
Speaker 1: own this time, when she heard what sounded like footsteps
Speaker 1: coming up the hallway toward her room. Believing her mother
Speaker 1: might be coming to say good night, she took the
Speaker 1: candle from her bedside table and went to greet her
Speaker 1: mother at the door, but when she opened it there
Speaker 1: was nobody there. Just then, she heard more footsteps coming
Speaker 1: from the darkness at the far end of the hall.
Speaker 1: Holding the candle out before her, she was surprised to
Speaker 1: see a figure standing turned away from her at the
Speaker 1: top of the stairs. From what she could make out,
Speaker 1: it was a rather tall woman wearing a black dress.
Speaker 1: Thinking it might be one of the servants who she
Speaker 1: hadn't yet met, Rosina called out to her, but the
Speaker 1: figure ignored her and remained completely still. I say hello,
Speaker 1: said Rosina again, but the figure gave no reply and
Speaker 1: showed no sign of movement. A strange cold feeling came
Speaker 1: over Rosina, but before she had time to process it,
Speaker 1: the figure suddenly took off down the stairs into the
Speaker 1: darkness below. Wait, cried Rosina after her as she swiftly
Speaker 1: gave chase, cupping the flickering candle with her hand as
Speaker 1: she went. She was just in time to see the
Speaker 1: figure's head disappeared down the second flight of stairs when
Speaker 1: the candle suddenly blew out, plunging Rosina into total darkness.
Speaker 1: By the time she'd lit the candle again and returned
Speaker 1: to the stairwell, the figure was long gone. Rosina had
Speaker 1: all but forgotten about the incident when in the autumn
Speaker 1: of the following year, eighteen eighty three, her older sister, Frederica,
Speaker 1: from Captain Despard's first marriage, came to stay with the
Speaker 1: family for a few months. One evening, as Frederica entered
Speaker 1: the dining room to join the others at dinner, she
Speaker 1: asked who the Sister of Mercy was that she'd just
Speaker 1: seen walking through the main hall. The Sisters of Mercy
Speaker 1: are a community of Roman Catholic women who dress in
Speaker 1: distinctively black, flowing habits, but as her father explained, there
Speaker 1: was no such person in the house. Frederica insisted, however,
Speaker 1: that she had just seen the woman walk across the
Speaker 1: hall and enter the drawing room. Captain Desparsed ordered a
Speaker 1: servant to carry out an immediate inspection of the property,
Speaker 1: but when they returned a short time later, they found
Speaker 1: no one matching Frederica's description. A few weeks later, six
Speaker 1: year old Wilfrid Despart, who'd spent the morning playing with
Speaker 1: a friend of his, burst suddenly into his mother's bedroom
Speaker 1: with a look of abject terror on his face. Wilfrid's mother, Harriet,
Speaker 1: who was only forty nine at the time, was largely
Speaker 1: bedbount and was being tended to by Rosina. After waiting
Speaker 1: to catch his breath, Wilfrid finally explained what had happened.
Speaker 1: He and his friend had been playing on the path
Speaker 1: outside the drawing room when they looked in through the
Speaker 1: window to see what he took to be a woman
Speaker 1: dressed all in black seated at the writing table. Fred
Speaker 1: couldn't see the figure's face because she was holding a
Speaker 1: handkerchief in front of it. Curious to know who it was,
Speaker 1: the boys rushed inside and into the drawing room, but
Speaker 1: by the time they got there, the woman had gone.
Speaker 1: It was only then that Rosina remembered the mysterious woman
Speaker 1: she'd seen at the end of the hallway outside her bedroom.
Speaker 1: Could it also be the woman whom Frederica had mistaken
Speaker 1: for a sister of Mercy too, she thought. A few
Speaker 1: nights later, Rosina was once again disturbed by what she
Speaker 1: took to be the sound of footsteps moving about outside
Speaker 1: her bedroom door. Taking the candle in her hand once more,
Speaker 1: she quietly opened the door and gasped at the sight
Speaker 1: of the mysterious woman standing again at the top of
Speaker 1: the stairs in the shadows at the far end of
Speaker 1: the hall. The woman seemed to be facing her, but
Speaker 1: just like when Wilfrid saw her, her presence was made
Speaker 1: all the more eerie by the way in which she
Speaker 1: held a white handkerchief in front of her face. Seeing
Speaker 1: her more clearly now, Rosina could see that she was
Speaker 1: in fact dressed in morning clothes, with what appeared to
Speaker 1: be some kind of black bonnet and fail just visible
Speaker 1: above the handkerchief. Then the figure turned and dashed down
Speaker 1: the stairs again. This time, Rosina was ready for her
Speaker 1: and followed close behind, going a little slower this time
Speaker 1: so as not to lose the candle light. She managed
Speaker 1: to track her all the way to the ground floor,
Speaker 1: when she then seemed to float out into the main
Speaker 1: hall and drift across it to the drawing rooms. Heart
Speaker 1: thumped in her chest, Rosina followed her into the room,
Speaker 1: where she watched her take a seat at the writing desk,
Speaker 1: then stood up again and moved back out into the hall.
Speaker 1: Rosina then watched the figure head toward the back door
Speaker 1: to the garden before it vanished right in front of her.
Speaker 1: A few days later, Rosina received an odd letter from
Speaker 1: her close friend, Katherine Campbell. Katherine was the first person
Speaker 1: that Rosina had spoken to outside of the family about
Speaker 1: the strange events that had been going on at Garden
Speaker 1: Reach on the night Rosina had followed the apparition into
Speaker 1: the drawing room. Katherine, who lived a hundred miles away
Speaker 1: in the north of England and couldn't possibly have known
Speaker 1: anything about that night, claimed she was in her bedroom
Speaker 1: some point between twelve and twelve thirty at night when
Speaker 1: she had a sudden vision of a flight of stairs.
Speaker 1: Moments later, a woman in black came running down the steps,
Speaker 1: followed close behind by Rosina, who was wearing a loosely
Speaker 1: tied dressing gown and holding a candle out before her.
Speaker 1: As she went, a loud noise from another room in
Speaker 1: her house punctured the vision, and Catherine found herself once
Speaker 1: more back in her own room. Over the next few months,
Speaker 1: Rosina claimed to have seen the woman on a number
Speaker 1: of different occasions, though each time making the exact same movements. Then,
Speaker 1: in late January eighteen eighty four, Rosina followed the apparition
Speaker 1: into the drawing room, where this time it just stood
Speaker 1: still next to the sofa, still keeping its face obscured
Speaker 1: in that same unsettling way with the handkerchief. Seeing an
Speaker 1: opportunity to engage with it, Rosina then took a step
Speaker 1: forward and was relieved when the figure didn't move. Are
Speaker 1: you lost? She said, the words almost catching in her throat.
Speaker 1: Is there anything I can do to help you? The
Speaker 1: apparition seemed almost imperceptibly to flinch, but remained silent. When
Speaker 1: Rosina tried to get closer, it suddenly burst into life
Speaker 1: once more, scooted out at the drawing room, and disappeared
Speaker 1: once again by the door that led to the garden.
Speaker 1: At the time at the apparent haunting, Rosina had ambitions
Speaker 1: to arm a doctor of medicine, as such, being academically minded,
Speaker 1: She claimed to have attempted a number of experiments to
Speaker 1: try and learn more about what exactly the apparition was.
Speaker 1: She placed straying across the stairs at various heights to
Speaker 1: test if there was any material substance to it, but
Speaker 1: said the ghost simply passed through it. She attempted to
Speaker 1: talk to it a few more times, but it seemed
Speaker 1: not to register her at all. She also made efforts
Speaker 1: to touch the ghost, but no matter how quickly she
Speaker 1: followed behind it, it seemed always to be a good
Speaker 1: few steps ahead. Up to this point, it was only
Speaker 1: Rosina who'd seen the figure, with the exception of Wilfrid
Speaker 1: and Frederica, who were not entirely sure what they had seen.
Speaker 1: Frederica was especially unnerved by Rosina's insistence that there was
Speaker 1: a ghost in the house. One morning, when she and
Speaker 1: Rosina were in the drawing room, Rosina became suddenly animated,
Speaker 1: insisting that the woman in black had just walked into
Speaker 1: the room and were standing right next to Frederica. Frederica
Speaker 1: was pregnant at the time, but sadly lost her baby
Speaker 1: a few weeks later. Not long after, Frederica was in
Speaker 1: her bedroom when she was woken by the sound of
Speaker 1: footsteps coming from above, followed by the sound of something
Speaker 1: heavy being dragged across the floor. The room above was
Speaker 1: vacant at the time. The terrifying sounds continued until one
Speaker 1: night Frederica steeled herself enough to head into the hallway,
Speaker 1: having heard again the passing sound of footsteps, when she
Speaker 1: too finally saw the woman that Rosina had been talking
Speaker 1: so much about, and soon they were all seeing her.
Speaker 1: On the night of August second, Rosina's sisters Edith, Florence,
Speaker 1: and Lillian, who were all sleeping together on the top
Speaker 1: floor of the house, were also woken by ghostly footsteps outside,
Speaker 1: but were too terrified to leave their room. The following morning,
Speaker 1: the family's cook recounted to the horrified girls her own
Speaker 1: story of the night before, in which she'd been heading
Speaker 1: downstairs to fetch some hot water when she also saw
Speaker 1: the woman in black. Having been nervous about how he
Speaker 1: might react, Rosina and her sisters eventually decided to tell
Speaker 1: their father about what was going on, much to their amazement.
Speaker 1: The man who'd heard a light time of stories regarding strange,
Speaker 1: ghostly happenings from his time in the Army did not
Speaker 1: dismiss the possibility completely. On August sixth, the family were
Speaker 1: visited by the son of the man who lived opposite,
Speaker 1: a recently retired general of the British Army. The young
Speaker 1: man explained that his father had been looking out of
Speaker 1: his bedroom window when he spotted a lady dressed all
Speaker 1: in black, standing in the orchard who appeared to be
Speaker 1: crying into a handkerchief. The general, who knew Frederica to
Speaker 1: be mourning the recent death of her baby, assumed it
Speaker 1: to be her and had sent his son around to
Speaker 1: see if she was okay, but Frederica had not been
Speaker 1: in the orchard that day. After hearing of this last
Speaker 1: sighting from a retired general, no less, Captain Despard was
Speaker 1: left in no doubt that something explicable was taking place
Speaker 1: in his home. He and Rosina began to dig into
Speaker 1: the history of the house in the hope that it
Speaker 1: might shed some light on all that had apparently been
Speaker 1: going on. As it transpired. The house was built only
Speaker 1: twenty years before the Desbards moved in, and were sold
Speaker 1: to A Henry Swinhoe, a solicitor who arrived there in
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty from Calcutta. With his wife, Elizabeth and their
Speaker 1: two children. Another two children followed before Elizabeth became pregnant
Speaker 1: again in eighteen sixty five. The following year, Henry, who
Speaker 1: was known to absolutely adore his wife, was hit by
Speaker 1: a double tragedy. On August eighteenth, eighteen sixty six, it
Speaker 1: was announced in the birth register of the Gloucestershire Chronicle
Speaker 1: that on August eleventh in Cheltenham, a stillborn son had
Speaker 1: been born to the wife of Henry Swinhoe. A few
Speaker 1: inches below in the deaths register, it read that Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Francis had also died in Cheltenham on August the eleventh.
Speaker 1: Over the next few years, a darkness seemed to descend
Speaker 1: on the property, that some worried might consume Henry completely.
Speaker 1: It is said that the man turned increasingly to alcohol
Speaker 1: to manage his pain. Four years after Elizabeth's death, he
Speaker 1: was married again to an Imogen Hutchins from Clifton in Bristol.
Speaker 1: From the moment they met, however, Henry and Imogen's relationship
Speaker 1: was said to be a tumultuous one. Both were prone
Speaker 1: to heavy bouts of drinking and frequently quarreled viciously with
Speaker 1: each other. By eighteen seventy five, the relationship at all
Speaker 1: but disintegrated, with Henry becoming so convinced that Imogen wanted
Speaker 1: to steal his late wife's jewelry, he instructed a carpenter
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Speaker 1: In eighteen seventy six, Imogen and Henry finally decided to separate,
Speaker 1: with Imogen heading back to Bristol and Henry continuing to
Speaker 1: live at Garden Reach when a few months later, on
Speaker 1: July fourteenth, he died from what many said was a
Speaker 1: broken heart. Imogen died two years later in Clifton on
Speaker 1: the twenty third of September eighteen seventy eight, from the
Speaker 1: effects of alcohol abuse, such was the custom, despite her
Speaker 1: and Henry's clear antipathy toward each other. Imogen's body, none
Speaker 1: the less was brought to Cheltenham and buried in the
Speaker 1: grounds of the Holy Trinity Church in Portland Street, not
Speaker 1: far from Garden Reach. In the years following Henry's death,
Speaker 1: Garden Reach fell into some disrepair and was eventually sold
Speaker 1: to Benjamin Littlewood, an elderly man from Sherdington in eighteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Little Word had extensive work done on the
Speaker 1: property and renamed it Pitfield House. A month later, Benjamin died,
Speaker 1: after which the house was once again vacant. It is
Speaker 1: said that both Benjamin Littlewood and Henry Swinhoe died in
Speaker 1: the exact same room, a small sitting room where Henry
Speaker 1: thought to have had his wife's jewelry hidden. After Littlewood's death,
Speaker 1: the house was renamed again the following year, becoming known
Speaker 1: then as the Nor House, which, for reasons the dispards
Speaker 1: were never quite able to ascertain, was offered for rent
Speaker 1: at a price considerably cheaper than what they eventually ended
Speaker 1: up paying for it. Perhaps it was merely the recent
Speaker 1: deaths in the property that seemed to have been putting
Speaker 1: the renters off, Or perhaps, as Rosina wandered, could it
Speaker 1: be that she and her family weren't the first people
Speaker 1: to encounter the mournful woman in black. A short time later,
Speaker 1: Rosina was shown a photo album by some people local
Speaker 1: to the area and asked to pick out anyone that
Speaker 1: looked like the apparition she'd apparently been seeing. Without hesitating,
Speaker 1: Rosina is said to have picked out the image of
Speaker 1: a woman who just so happened to be the sister
Speaker 1: of the deceased image, and Swinhoe, with the two being
Speaker 1: said to look incredibly similar. Over the next few years,
Speaker 1: the family continued to be haunted by the appearance of
Speaker 1: the variously terrifying, unsettling, or simply melancholic woman in black,
Speaker 1: with sightings said to be more frequent in the months
Speaker 1: of July, August and September, the months in which Henry Swinhoe,
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Swinhoe, and Benjamin Littlewood respectively, died at the property.
Speaker 1: For a while, the ghostly sounds heard round the house
Speaker 1: grew in intensity, with one servant said to have been
Speaker 1: so terrified by something unseen rattling her door handle that
Speaker 1: she suffered from facial hemiplegia as a result. Gradually, however,
Speaker 1: the hauntings became less frequent, with the woman seldom seen
Speaker 1: between eighteen eighty seven and eighteen eighty nine, and by
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety two she was no longer being seen at all.
Speaker 1: Rosina Despard, writing under the name R. C. Morton, published
Speaker 1: a full account of her and her family's experiences titled
Speaker 1: Record of a Haunted House with a preface from Frederick Myers,
Speaker 1: in the eighteen ninety two Proceedings of the Society for
Speaker 1: Psychical Research. It isn't known if Myers himself ever saw
Speaker 1: the apparition. The Despards eventually moved out at the property
Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety three, after which it was turned into
Speaker 1: a boy's preparatory school before becoming a nunnery and later
Speaker 1: a college for training Nanni's. In nineteen seventy, local resident
Speaker 1: Missus Jackson was heading past the building during a driving lesson, when,
Speaker 1: much to her instructor's surprise, she suddenly slammed on the
Speaker 1: brakes to make an emergency stop. When the instructor asked
Speaker 1: her why she'd done it, she said, quite pointedly, so
Speaker 1: that she didn't hit the woman dressed all in black
Speaker 1: who just walked out into the road in front of her.
Speaker 1: Seeing the instructor's bemused look, Missus Jackson turned to point
Speaker 1: her out to him, only to find the road was
Speaker 1: completely empty. In nineteen seventy three, the building changed hands again,
Speaker 1: this time being bought by a housing association that had
Speaker 1: it converted into separate flats, which, if you were to
Speaker 1: go there today is how you would find it. Twelve
Speaker 1: years later, in the middle of summer, two middle aged
Speaker 1: friends were walking along Pittville's Circus Road close to the
Speaker 1: property around ten pm at night, when they spotted a
Speaker 1: strange looking woman standing on the nearby Saint Anne's Close footpath.
Speaker 1: The woman appeared to be dressed in a thick looking
Speaker 1: black Victorian dress. The men were so taken aback by
Speaker 1: her appearance they headed back in the hope of seeing
Speaker 1: her again, but by the time they made it back
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