Speaker 1: Laughing lame he laughing with if you watch Coffee Time
Speaker 1: to Baby, you know the name Flame, my role also
Speaker 1: known as my role Flame. Come in with last and
Speaker 1: come in with jn love lounds. Baby, you better catch
Speaker 1: it when you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics,
Speaker 1: shouting now comics, just paying homics. What's up till yeah?
Speaker 1: You know she raped shot towns on speak into the
Speaker 1: grown a second. We're gonna last cut of the kicking
Speaker 1: and at the end we leave it, which is a
Speaker 1: lift dispirit you think you want to revisit, So your
Speaker 1: first take a list of jim folks like it's lit
Speaker 1: old folks that we dig it today. Can't nope, do
Speaker 1: what you don't? Nois do what you do, can't nopekiss
Speaker 1: do what I do. No we we would officially welcome
Speaker 1: everybody to laugh and learn. Today, as we can see,
Speaker 1: things are a little different. Um Flame is traveling on
Speaker 1: the road. Nick, you're actually back in the office. So
Speaker 1: you got a green screen background today and I just
Speaker 1: hand it back in time to get here because I
Speaker 1: got back from Florida yesterday. So we've all been kind
Speaker 1: of scattered all across the place. So how is your
Speaker 1: week going, Nick, Lauren is actually going well. But this
Speaker 1: is one of the things, you know, you you took off.
Speaker 1: I think you took off like on Thursday, right, Wednesday night, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Yeah, because you know, when you were out there,
Speaker 1: we were, you know, Flam and I were talking like,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta make sure we keep that prayer
Speaker 1: cloth and prayer warriors out there for you because you're
Speaker 1: traveling away from home and things have gotten so crazy now.
Speaker 1: Uh that. And again, Lauren, I say this, you know,
Speaker 1: I know you're a grown woman, but we still see
Speaker 1: you as young and we sit there were like, you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta watch out for you, just to make sure
Speaker 1: you okay. So I'm just glad you made it back.
Speaker 1: But my weekend was pretty good. I didn't do anything
Speaker 1: outside of the norm. You know, I was kind of here.
Speaker 1: I knew that we'd be coming back into the studio
Speaker 1: this week, so a lot of it was preparing for
Speaker 1: that um and just trying trying to be in place
Speaker 1: for that and getting back into the mental space of actually,
Speaker 1: you know, coming back into a real office and all
Speaker 1: of that. So yeah, yeah, but it was a good week.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah for me. Honestly, I was more so
Speaker 1: concerned about traveling before the Derek Shown verdict came down.
Speaker 1: That was my main thing that I was concerned about.
Speaker 1: So the fact that it came down on Tuesday and
Speaker 1: then nothing crazy really erupted, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: as a whole, we all got the verdict that we wanted.
Speaker 1: I was able to fly on Wednesday, like with a
Speaker 1: sigh of relief. And plus I was going to Florida.
Speaker 1: You know, Florida is crazy, so it was everything works,
Speaker 1: it happens for a reason. I'm a firm believer of that.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad everything worked out for sure, and it
Speaker 1: was a successful trip as well. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I guess I can kind of update you because
Speaker 1: we haven't talked yet. Um. I did the Florida AIDS Walk.
Speaker 1: This is from my other job, you guys. Um. And
Speaker 1: actually we had an AIDS walk in a music festival,
Speaker 1: all socially distance in Florida, which some people had some
Speaker 1: things to say about that, but we got to stay safe. Um.
Speaker 1: But the music festival component was actually with a little
Speaker 1: Kim and Trina, Yes, so um I got to work
Speaker 1: with them. A very enjoyable experience UM. As always, events
Speaker 1: are very hectic, especially on the talent front, but overall
Speaker 1: it was so successful. Um Kim brought her daughter with
Speaker 1: her and they had a little moment on stage. It
Speaker 1: actually went viral and ended up on the Shade Room
Speaker 1: with like over four million views US in Hollywood Unlocked
Speaker 1: and everything else. So overall it was a super sexful,
Speaker 1: successful event and we actually raised one point nine million dollars,
Speaker 1: so that is awesome. I think one of the things too,
Speaker 1: that makes that so special is that both Trina and
Speaker 1: Kim have been in the game for a while. They
Speaker 1: really are I believe they are icons. You know. They
Speaker 1: really have to kind of lay the groundwork for so
Speaker 1: many female artists in the industry just beyond wrap, you know,
Speaker 1: just being uh female who are writing, producing their own material,
Speaker 1: moving forward and staying saying viable in a highly competitive field.
Speaker 1: You know, the game is the game is tough, you know,
Speaker 1: so yeah, definitely. And the thing is they're sweet and personal.
Speaker 1: Well that's always what I look for because I work
Speaker 1: with a myriad of people in talent, But Kim is
Speaker 1: a sweetheart and Trina is too, so I always appreciate,
Speaker 1: you know, folks like that because you know, some people
Speaker 1: can be up at like, oh talk to my manager,
Speaker 1: don't speak to me, and we're not like that at all.
Speaker 1: Helped Trina drove herself to the event and was like,
Speaker 1: I don't need ground transportation on time. So yeah, they're
Speaker 1: really lovely individuals and special people to hip hop games.
Speaker 1: So it was it was special folks. Catch up folks,
Speaker 1: because I know you you kind of keep an eye
Speaker 1: on everything. There Where is Flame today? And why isn't
Speaker 1: she with us right now? Catch us up? So Flame
Speaker 1: is in Atlanta, which I'm sure some of you guys
Speaker 1: have already seen because she went live for her drag
Speaker 1: show yesterday. But Flame went to Atlanta because she had
Speaker 1: a drag show, and she's actually on her way to
Speaker 1: the studio because she's gonna be multitasking. She's gonna do
Speaker 1: a live event with M T. S. Madison and Sophia
Speaker 1: Kelly as well, So she's gonna pop in on here
Speaker 1: for our hour and then she's gonna pop over to
Speaker 1: the other show. But she's in route, and of course
Speaker 1: Lift has been acting crazy lately, so um a couple
Speaker 1: of lifts canceled on her, so she's just trying to
Speaker 1: make it to the studio, so she doesn't have any
Speaker 1: internet connection issues. But long story short, she's in Atlanta, working, working, working,
Speaker 1: So you know what, I'm glad to hear that that's
Speaker 1: not just here. Everybody's been talking about lifting Uber really
Speaker 1: crazy lately because you know, for the longest, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a car, so I depended on Uber and lifting
Speaker 1: and things have really kind of changed. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what has caused that change, but you know, it's definitely
Speaker 1: been a problem even or uh So I'm surprised that
Speaker 1: that's the case, even in Atlanta, but clearly there's something
Speaker 1: happening with the system overall. If that's what everyone is experiencing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's across the board, because it's just not Atlanta.
Speaker 1: There was issues with Lift in Florida that I was having,
Speaker 1: like it's been everybody I know of it just seems
Speaker 1: to be having issues. So I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with their system. I know people are biting drivers
Speaker 1: next in different things, so I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with the Lift. You know, we see and we talked.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to Flame here for a second. You
Speaker 1: you know, we see and talk to Flame multiple times today.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's just but there's something about Flame
Speaker 1: on stage that I particularly enjoy and it makes me
Speaker 1: fall in love with Flame all over again. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I said to Flame that,
Speaker 1: I said, you know you here with that had those
Speaker 1: glasses even Bacon, I don't know who that is, but
Speaker 1: will say I love it. Learn I love seeing Flame perform.
Speaker 1: And Flame did something in the pantsuit that uh, you
Speaker 1: know her her her stylist, I'm not gonna say styles
Speaker 1: her designer, Martin Elliott, with whom she's worked for years.
Speaker 1: They go back and forth, but I said, I swear it.
Speaker 1: It's like, if they're not yelling at each other, they're
Speaker 1: not community. It's not it's not gonna work. If they're
Speaker 1: not yelling at each other, the magic is not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: We know that. So and every time Martin pulls I
Speaker 1: don't know how Martin does it, but he gets those
Speaker 1: like a glove and it just looks fantastic. Sure, I
Speaker 1: just gotta be honest. He can sell his ass off.
Speaker 1: We gotta say it right, because it's impressive of the
Speaker 1: work that he does so such a short period of time. Too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's Flames. I wanted to do this just any
Speaker 1: other okay, okay, okay, and then he just gets that
Speaker 1: machine and he just does it exactly so so I know,
Speaker 1: I saw a Flame pop up that she's here, um,
Speaker 1: but she's not coming in yet, so I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: keep inviting her. But in the meantime, I think we
Speaker 1: can definitely you know, start the show, um someone. I
Speaker 1: want to start more so with like our um less
Speaker 1: heavy topics, I feel like, because it just seems like
Speaker 1: every week we've been having such a heavy show, but
Speaker 1: we just have to address what's happening in the world
Speaker 1: because I feel like if we don't have these you know,
Speaker 1: tell conversations and you know, what type of content are
Speaker 1: we putting out? You know, we have to really have
Speaker 1: attention and love what we're doing. So let's start with
Speaker 1: the lighter stuff and then you know, Flame pop isn't great,
Speaker 1: um Nick, but I'm gonna turn it over to you though.
Speaker 1: And it's starting to circle back because Flame wants to
Speaker 1: join in us because Flame probably is listening and just
Speaker 1: can't jump in right now, and we know how that goes.
Speaker 1: But you know, Laren, you just touched on something because
Speaker 1: some of the feedback we've gotten, and I do take
Speaker 1: the time you guys want you to know, I take
Speaker 1: the time to read the comments and um, people, I've
Speaker 1: heard a couple of people say, um, it's the same
Speaker 1: show week after week. Everything is so heavy and you
Speaker 1: all used to laugh and we still want to laugh.
Speaker 1: I think that Flame and Lauren and I would argue that,
Speaker 1: trust me, we want to laugh. We would love to
Speaker 1: do nothing but have a show. Maybe what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: the oscars or the NFL draft and all the things
Speaker 1: was so much continues to happen that we both that
Speaker 1: all three of us feel affects the community that it is. Um,
Speaker 1: it's an incumbent part of us too. It's incumbent upon
Speaker 1: us to have the conversation because we know you all
Speaker 1: having the conversation. And that's what Flame has always said
Speaker 1: from day she wanted to laugh and learned to be
Speaker 1: a conversation. So join in, jump in, let us know.
Speaker 1: If you find a lighter moment, please share it. We
Speaker 1: you know we we we beg of you to join
Speaker 1: us and uh and help us to uh keep the
Speaker 1: conversation light and fun. But we also don't want to
Speaker 1: neglect our duty and the opportunity that we have with
Speaker 1: the platform UH to speak on things that affect the community.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and just jump in there
Speaker 1: with something I feel like you touched on it, and
Speaker 1: I honestly I forgot What did you think about the Oscars?
Speaker 1: Before we get to I know we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Joe Biden in a second, what did you think about
Speaker 1: the Oscars? I gotta ask you, Nick. You know what, Lauren,
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of it, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you I didn't hate it, but it didn't keep
Speaker 1: me compelled. I write that that makes sense. I think
Speaker 1: what I liked was what did I like? What I
Speaker 1: liked was seeing Viola Davis Like I love Viola and
Speaker 1: there's something about her, just her comfort and her scan,
Speaker 1: her struggle, her story, all of that that just works
Speaker 1: for me. Right. But I think, Lauren, I've gotten to
Speaker 1: a point where and I'm not sure if social media
Speaker 1: is the reason why, or the fact that there's so
Speaker 1: many different platforms to see things. I think I'm just
Speaker 1: over celebrities that I no longer sit back in awe
Speaker 1: when they hit the stage like you used to. There
Speaker 1: was a time, you know, I think those who maybe
Speaker 1: also like me and maybe born in the seventies can
Speaker 1: sit back and tell you that there's a time when
Speaker 1: you sat there, you waited with bated breath to see
Speaker 1: what so and so would wear or what they would
Speaker 1: look like, because you weren't oversaturated with celebrities. You know,
Speaker 1: you weren't seeing them every day on Instagram, on Facebook
Speaker 1: or whatever it is there. You know. So I think
Speaker 1: that because we see it so much, Lauren, I'm not
Speaker 1: as um in awe as I used to be, or
Speaker 1: as enamored as I once was. But having said that, um,
Speaker 1: there's something about just seeing so many young black faces
Speaker 1: out there occupying those spaces that used to seem so
Speaker 1: revered to you know, and in early on um Daniel Kaliga,
Speaker 1: I always I love seeing him, his mama, his sister, Lauren.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds cheesy, but I can't wait to
Speaker 1: do something like that, have my mama sitting up there watching,
Speaker 1: you know, and I could feel his joy. Mom, you
Speaker 1: didn't actually attend what happened with that? I did not attend.
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, so that was it. But I would
Speaker 1: have dragged my mama right up in there. But you know,
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where Laura, I just think
Speaker 1: that those moments are just so special, you know, when
Speaker 1: I see these faces that look more like you and me, Uh,
Speaker 1: they're receiving and celebrating that joy. Um. There was definitely
Speaker 1: some highlights at the Oscars for me, like Glenn Close
Speaker 1: having that moment with Little Carell doing the butt and
Speaker 1: gave the backstory of it and basically said Spike Lee
Speaker 1: was robbed. Definitely a highlight for me. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Um.
Speaker 1: But I mean in the similar vain nick. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: not celebrity struck or star struck, you know what I mean. Um.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's because like I worked with
Speaker 1: talent a lot. It's just I've never been that way. Um. So,
Speaker 1: but I will say is what I do watch these
Speaker 1: awards shows for is the fashion. I'm always like looking at,
Speaker 1: like what can I gag at? Like what are the
Speaker 1: what are the costume you know, designs? They're technically costumes
Speaker 1: to me, But what is the fashion looking like for
Speaker 1: the season of you know, these awards season or whatever.
Speaker 1: So that's more so what I'm being attentive to. Um.
Speaker 1: On a downside, I was very sad that Andre Day
Speaker 1: didn't win. I really felt like she should have won
Speaker 1: Best Actress for that category. She gave an impeccable formance
Speaker 1: for Billie Holiday, and it just her performance was just
Speaker 1: a parallel opposite for me from like Lady Sings the
Speaker 1: Blues with Diana Ross, because while it was a you know,
Speaker 1: a true story of Billie Holiday, it just, uh, this
Speaker 1: new what Andre Day did. It was just a a
Speaker 1: different raw form that I saw Billy Holiday in a
Speaker 1: different light, and it wasn't anything negative. I thought it
Speaker 1: was something positive in a way despite all of the
Speaker 1: you know, turmoil and tragedy that she had to go through.
Speaker 1: So I just really felt like andre Day didn't get
Speaker 1: her flowers last night. So it was very ready. I think.
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about two very different movies and
Speaker 1: both and both can be celebrated in their own way.
Speaker 1: Absolutely agree. Um, it's like The Wiz is not the Odds,
Speaker 1: It's not the Wizard of Odds. Yes, those are two.
Speaker 1: There are two very different things. Absolutely, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: And of course Chadwick Boseman got robbed. That was honestly
Speaker 1: the that was huge for me, Like I felt like
Speaker 1: they centered the whole Oscars around Chadwick Boseman and then
Speaker 1: not to give him that award was kind of just
Speaker 1: like why, was like why did that happen? You know,
Speaker 1: and and a lot of and then at the end
Speaker 1: of the program, I don't know if you saw to Nick,
Speaker 1: the Oscars basically explained how they select their individual folks.
Speaker 1: It's almost like they had to justify what they did
Speaker 1: because they knew they were wrong in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: So I just I felt like they gave us, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit they gave us a foot
Speaker 1: and not our mile that we deserved. So it was like,
Speaker 1: here's enough to kind of silence you guys to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not so white anymore, but we're not
Speaker 1: going to give you all that you deserve here. We
Speaker 1: still gotta, you know, stick to our sound fundation of
Speaker 1: what the Oscars is. That's just you kind of mentioned.
Speaker 1: Also you touched on fashion in there, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this, Can we agree that a couple of those
Speaker 1: brothers wore some really uh nice looking things like and
Speaker 1: and this is what you know. I've had this conversation
Speaker 1: with my mom. Everything doesn't look good on everybody. A
Speaker 1: couple of things like I couldn't have got out of
Speaker 1: the way where but it looked good. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget the brother's name. Who were the future like?
Speaker 1: And you like sitting You're like, what was he thinking?
Speaker 1: But it looked good on him. He looked good on
Speaker 1: his skin and look Keith, that looked good. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, But I also think, you know what
Speaker 1: helps to be you know, taller, thinner brother were you
Speaker 1: know what what he wore? But I just thought it
Speaker 1: looked good, and you know, because I think that one
Speaker 1: of the challenges when you're a bigger guy is finding
Speaker 1: clothes that are that fit appropriately, you know, because you know,
Speaker 1: you just can't wear the can't wear you can't wear
Speaker 1: the high the high ankle pants and things like I
Speaker 1: looked better dressed bore like Unchael straighthand you know, nicely
Speaker 1: simple traditional suit keeping it, you know, just just keep
Speaker 1: the clean, you know, and doing that. So, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know your body, you got you gotta know your body.
Speaker 1: One of the things I want to jump on in
Speaker 1: there with Lauren. I brought it up simply because later
Speaker 1: this week we're expecting Wednesday, President Biden to make his
Speaker 1: first address to joint sessions of Congress. President Biden nears
Speaker 1: the end of his first one hundred days in office,
Speaker 1: with the slight majority of Americans approving of his performance
Speaker 1: and supporting his majority policy initiative. On Wednesday, he will
Speaker 1: address a joint session of Congress. He's expected to outline
Speaker 1: his American Family's Plan, which will reportedly be paid for
Speaker 1: by tax heights on wealthy Americans, and just breaking down
Speaker 1: those numbers of adults say they approve of the job
Speaker 1: Biden is doing compared with for who disapproved. So I think,
Speaker 1: more than anything, I just want to throw it out there.
Speaker 1: I think, um um. I personally believe that one of
Speaker 1: the reasons Biden's numbers are in a positive direction, I
Speaker 1: personally think it's because we're seeing less of him. I
Speaker 1: think that there's something about his lack of desire to
Speaker 1: be in front of the camera, like the former administration
Speaker 1: has worked to his advantage. I think, in many ways,
Speaker 1: the bar for President Biden has been placed so low
Speaker 1: by so many. Uh, there's still jokes about his age,
Speaker 1: there's still jokes about him falling, there's still there's there's
Speaker 1: always so many references to that that I think that
Speaker 1: anytime he can actually stand upright and not you know,
Speaker 1: a slobber over himself. People consider it a win, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the reasons why his
Speaker 1: numbers are so high. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I think that within the first hundred days that he's
Speaker 1: nearing it, he's not even there yet. I think he's
Speaker 1: done a lot for you know, the country. I have
Speaker 1: to say that. I think in some ways he's definitely
Speaker 1: playing to his strengths and saying that, hey, this may
Speaker 1: not be something I need to tackle. So he's kind
Speaker 1: of given those big policy initiatives of Kamala Harris and
Speaker 1: kind of wanting her to spearhead that. But I also
Speaker 1: say that to say two is I think and this
Speaker 1: is again my opinion. I don't have any sources or
Speaker 1: anybody confirm this. I don't know if Biden wants to,
Speaker 1: you know, run again for president. So I think he's
Speaker 1: strategically given Kamala Harris some of those big policy initiatives
Speaker 1: so that way she can kind of step out of
Speaker 1: her on her own court if she chooses to run.
Speaker 1: But I think as a whole though he's he is,
Speaker 1: he's doing a great job. He has he inherited a
Speaker 1: screwed up administration. Um. You know, not just from the economy,
Speaker 1: just the policies that were previously implemented. He inherited a
Speaker 1: screwed up justice system. Um from the d O J.
Speaker 1: So I think as a whole, you know, he's trying
Speaker 1: to fare the best way that he can. Um. So
Speaker 1: I do I want to give Joe Biden kudos today, um,
Speaker 1: even for you know, handling COVID. Um Nick, I don't
Speaker 1: mind sharing this with you because Flame is ready, She's
Speaker 1: about to come in a second, so we can kind
Speaker 1: of have this moment really quickly. Um. I ended up
Speaker 1: actually getting vaccinated, and I know I haven't even told
Speaker 1: you that too, so we can, you know, quickly do
Speaker 1: this because I know Flames not I want to talk
Speaker 1: about this. Um well, I did end up getting vaccinated.
Speaker 1: It was a personal choice, like we've always said, but
Speaker 1: it was something I had to do because I was
Speaker 1: traveling for work. UM. So I don't know if you
Speaker 1: want to share your story too, but I gotta give
Speaker 1: kudos to Joe Biden. You know, he said some things
Speaker 1: we may not want to do, but you know, we
Speaker 1: kind of had to do it. And so because of
Speaker 1: my own personal reasons. I ended up doing that, and
Speaker 1: I can't lie. I do feel like I feel a
Speaker 1: little safer, especially considering I went to Florida, so and
Speaker 1: that's really why I did it. But yeah, good for you,
Speaker 1: And did you have any adverse side effects anything you wanted?
Speaker 1: It was terrible. Yeah, it felt like I had food poisoning.
Speaker 1: For my second dose, I was very tired. Um, I
Speaker 1: had a headache. It wasn't the best feeling. I don't
Speaker 1: like feeling like I have food poisoning, and it's very
Speaker 1: painful for me. Um. So I'm not getting any more shots.
Speaker 1: I don't care about a booster. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: doing anything else. I'm done. I'm I'm definitely definitely done.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you also and help me here, Lauren,
Speaker 1: you also did it also protect those around you? Correct? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like you guys, we've all said, like I still
Speaker 1: live at home with my parents, personal reasons, I've got
Speaker 1: stuff going on. So I had to get vaccinated because
Speaker 1: I got to protect other people, you know, I just do,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I did. And as you know,
Speaker 1: I was going back and forth to California to the
Speaker 1: show and and things like that. I was traveling so much,
Speaker 1: so I got my I did get my Fightser, I
Speaker 1: did Fightser Advisor. I completed my round back in February,
Speaker 1: you know, and I shared that because I went through
Speaker 1: the v A. So I was and there were people
Speaker 1: who wouldn't show up, and they're like, hey, ms Smith,
Speaker 1: we can do you a blue closed in fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: I'll be there and eight. So I ran up there
Speaker 1: and got mine, you know, and once you were on
Speaker 1: the first shot, you automatically we're listed for the for
Speaker 1: the second. So yeah, like you've had no adverse I've
Speaker 1: had no adverse side effects, and trying to give space
Speaker 1: to people who are still trying to make that decision
Speaker 1: for themselves. But I am happy to be vaccinated. So
Speaker 1: let's wait and let's bring flame on in. She's ready.
Speaker 1: So and I just wanted to get the health the
Speaker 1: way because I I'm not talking about that, so we'll
Speaker 1: put it out there. Hello fla mans, good morning, because
Speaker 1: I'm good. I know such things. I'm I met. I
Speaker 1: met a studio with Sophia Macintage the world famous, and
Speaker 1: George and and Gordian it's three here. Would you tell?
Speaker 1: Would you tell? Sophia. I have been a fan for
Speaker 1: years Sophia, Nick and Laurence, and they're fans of yours. Fun.
Speaker 1: We had a great time last night if you weren't
Speaker 1: trapping and we were people forming tonight. But the twenty
Speaker 1: one anniversary of Stars of the Century, y'all, I love it, said,
Speaker 1: I knew I had laughed with our brought my ring
Speaker 1: like to do this. So in between, geeess, we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: So when we talked about right, because I got about
Speaker 1: two minutes, folks, so we go, like, we want you
Speaker 1: to know what's going on with you? Lauren and I
Speaker 1: are just a feeling that you kind of got here.
Speaker 1: What ain't about me? Right now? It's about Virginia and Ohio,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something I said last week on
Speaker 1: Laugh and Learn. If they give us one, they're gonna
Speaker 1: want team. Fifteen minutes after the decision came down guilty, guilty, guilty,
Speaker 1: they shot Mkaire Brian and and killed her dead. First
Speaker 1: of all, we had to keep looking at all these
Speaker 1: different stories. We had to keep looking at all these
Speaker 1: different ways because they were trying to segway to find
Speaker 1: the way to say that the officer was innocent. Then
Speaker 1: they went back and researched the officer's past, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like that what what they do to the victim.
Speaker 1: This nigga, the officer was a decorated smartsman from the military.
Speaker 1: This nigga was William Tail. This nigga could shoot an
Speaker 1: apple off somebody's head from a million paces. So when
Speaker 1: he came out with all this, he wasn't ready. He
Speaker 1: poured up into commotion. He was a sharp shooter. He
Speaker 1: could have shot that knife out her hand because he
Speaker 1: was trained and decorated to do that. That's not what
Speaker 1: he wanted to do, if you want to know the truth,
Speaker 1: he wanted a too fir. He shot at her four
Speaker 1: times because he thought he was gonna get huh, and
Speaker 1: the girl that she was going to stay. I think
Speaker 1: I can that you don't like what I say. I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. Well, I'll jump in here because
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that you say that to flame,
Speaker 1: because I did see on the news. Um, somebody asked, well,
Speaker 1: aren't you guys you know Marksman's that you guys can
Speaker 1: shoot in certain areas. And I believe that I don't remember, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I believe that the police chief of um
Speaker 1: Ohio basically said, well, you know, we can't really do
Speaker 1: that because we can't train our officers to be that way.
Speaker 1: So we have to make it general and they just
Speaker 1: have to assess the threat. So that was kind of
Speaker 1: the way of them trying to backpedal. Basically what you're
Speaker 1: saying in terms of this is why he shot her
Speaker 1: four times. Huh. He thought he was gonna get a
Speaker 1: two for So those who are joining a flame was
Speaker 1: talking about this spate of violence that we've had um
Speaker 1: and we're talking specifically about the shooting incident with mccayah
Speaker 1: Brand mccaya brand. On the same day that the verdict
Speaker 1: came down in Minneapolis and found uh former police officer
Speaker 1: guilty of murder and George Floyd, a six year old
Speaker 1: girl was shot and killed by an officer in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Um mckaya Bryant was shot Tuesday afternoon by a Columbus
Speaker 1: police officer responding to a call for help at her
Speaker 1: Foster home. Authorities quickly released body camp footage and the
Speaker 1: nine one one calls, and they identified the officer immediately
Speaker 1: as Nicholas Reardon. Um and Flay mentioned Lauren, how you
Speaker 1: know he was a sharpshooter in the military before joining
Speaker 1: the police department. UM, and that has definitely been you know,
Speaker 1: I think what has happened more than anything but this
Speaker 1: particular case, I have heard more conversation about this one
Speaker 1: than I have some of the others. It seems to
Speaker 1: me that members are divided. I think that there are
Speaker 1: people who have kind of felt like officers for years
Speaker 1: have said that there are usually gray areas to these things,
Speaker 1: and I think this is the first one where people,
Speaker 1: even sitting back watching have have even said that, Okay,
Speaker 1: this one is a little great to some people. Some
Speaker 1: people don't feel as though this one is as cut
Speaker 1: and dry as say, maybe what we saw when we
Speaker 1: saw the killing of George Floyd, that we know that
Speaker 1: that there's no way to spend that. In my mind,
Speaker 1: speaking only for myself, I think that a Derek shove
Speaker 1: and George Floyd to me was not to be callous,
Speaker 1: but it was very black and white to me. There
Speaker 1: was no gray in that. I understand why some people
Speaker 1: are struggling with how they feel or what should have
Speaker 1: happened in the Macaya Bryant situation. Well, my thing is this,
Speaker 1: as a whole I'm tired of waking up and hearing
Speaker 1: about another innocent black young life being taken. That's just
Speaker 1: kind of where I am at this point. And I've
Speaker 1: seen so many we're going to call them parallel videos
Speaker 1: where for instance, there was this um individual, he actually
Speaker 1: had a knife. He was a white man. Police literally
Speaker 1: were trying to lunge at him to protect him with
Speaker 1: their bare hands so that way they didn't have to,
Speaker 1: you know, discharge a taser or fire their gun, and
Speaker 1: this man was actually lunging to stab the officers. He
Speaker 1: wasn't shot, he wasn't killed, but he was this old
Speaker 1: white man, So of course there's privilege there. But yet again,
Speaker 1: you know, we have this young white officer that's going
Speaker 1: into a black neighborhood, just sees that mckaya Brian has
Speaker 1: a knife on her and shoot decides to shoot her.
Speaker 1: And the unfortunate thing is this whole situation erupted because
Speaker 1: apparently the sisters were fighting over who was going to
Speaker 1: clean up the house. So the fact that it was
Speaker 1: something something so small and just something so just it
Speaker 1: wasn't that big of a deal to have to have
Speaker 1: her life ended. And she's the one that called the
Speaker 1: police for help. We always say it's the police's job
Speaker 1: to protect and serve us, and that's not what they do.
Speaker 1: So the fact that go ahead, No, And I think
Speaker 1: that this goes back to what we've talked about from
Speaker 1: from day one, because even I think even language matters,
Speaker 1: right because like you said, and you're right that you know,
Speaker 1: this young girl's, this innocent life should not have to
Speaker 1: be taken period. I'm going to argue that even if
Speaker 1: she isn't, in said, it shouldn't end in her death.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm staying there. So what happens is
Speaker 1: it becomes a situation where you have they have put
Speaker 1: the onus on us to decide, well, she maybe she
Speaker 1: should have, should she should How about we take another
Speaker 1: look at training because I do believe that possibly de escalation.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was not there, but what I
Speaker 1: do know is something you said is absolutely true. It
Speaker 1: is ridiculous that we continue to wake up day after
Speaker 1: day reading about seeing video, of learning, of witnessing whatever
Speaker 1: the thing is, of a another black life being taken
Speaker 1: um and some type of officer involved incident. Does crime
Speaker 1: and uh, chaos and killings happen in other areas, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but we're talking about what we're seeing right now, which
Speaker 1: continues to dominate the news. And I also believe you
Speaker 1: you've talked about this before, Lauren. I believe the media
Speaker 1: has a role in this, right, Um, I believe, uh.
Speaker 1: And this is just you know, being a member of
Speaker 1: the media. I think that we have a responsibility to
Speaker 1: do a better job. We looked at the Shavin murder
Speaker 1: um as the murder of George Floyd and the Chauvin
Speaker 1: murder trial as if Derek Chauvin was, you know, somehow
Speaker 1: the only one to be convicted of killing someone, you know,
Speaker 1: the the the officer who killed the KWA McDaniel is
Speaker 1: sitting in prison right now, and we should have said
Speaker 1: that what we need to do. Media is recognized that
Speaker 1: we need to be reporting on all of these stories.
Speaker 1: So that because I felt like so much weight was
Speaker 1: put on this and Lauren, had this trial not ended
Speaker 1: the way we all thought it should have, I think
Speaker 1: the city would have actually erupted, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think that because so many felt as though, um, nothing
Speaker 1: has been done or uh that uh finally and and
Speaker 1: flame touched on this, I think that we've got to
Speaker 1: do a better job of asking more of our officers.
Speaker 1: We have to do a better job of asking more
Speaker 1: of those who employed them to have them properly trained.
Speaker 1: There has to be something other than every interaction with
Speaker 1: an officer ending with the loss of life, particularly those
Speaker 1: of color. Period. It just it just can't be the norm. Well,
Speaker 1: my thing is, I think training is a component, yes,
Speaker 1: but I think at this point in time, accountability is
Speaker 1: more important because I don't think and this is my
Speaker 1: this is my opinion. I don't think that when police
Speaker 1: officers go into training, you have these people saying I'm
Speaker 1: training you to kill black people. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the narrative. I think that subliminally, yes, once you are
Speaker 1: integrated into the force and you go on your right
Speaker 1: along and you're getting you know, trained from other cops
Speaker 1: or whoever your partner, maybe I think, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of those things erupt. But I think at this point
Speaker 1: accountability has to be more so at the forefront than
Speaker 1: the training, because cops aren't held accountable. You know, we've
Speaker 1: talked about qualified immunity, even to the point where Amber
Speaker 1: Geiger is trying to appeal and overturn her conviction. This
Speaker 1: week of um Gene botham that she got these tenures,
Speaker 1: saying that you know, it was unjustined, it was unfair
Speaker 1: because you know, she was having a bad day. So
Speaker 1: accountability and qualified immunity at this point are going hand
Speaker 1: in hand. For me, it supersedes the training because unless
Speaker 1: those two elements are actually addressed, the training is kind
Speaker 1: of null and void. You can train someone to be
Speaker 1: a great officer, but honestly, if they're racist, you know,
Speaker 1: like Flame has said, you got crazy ability going into
Speaker 1: these urban communities not knowing how to de escalate situations
Speaker 1: because they're just scared all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: by their circumstances. It's not gonna work. It's just not.
Speaker 1: So that's more so what I want to see. And
Speaker 1: I think that go ahead. No, we talked about we're
Speaker 1: talking about these incidents. Were literally just talking about President Biden.
Speaker 1: I wonder too, how much this has played into his
Speaker 1: um because there's been no focus. Everything has been focused
Speaker 1: on so many other things that he's been able to
Speaker 1: kind of I think, you know, in many ways, they
Speaker 1: believe beneath the radar, you know, because there had the
Speaker 1: shop and trial literally has dominated everything we've been thinking about.
Speaker 1: And black people are still moving and operating in a
Speaker 1: space of fear, right, so we don't have time to
Speaker 1: sit there watching everything that Joe Biden is doing. If
Speaker 1: we've got to worry about air fresheners hanging from our
Speaker 1: rear view mirror, if we have to worry about, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a warrant being served and and and it escalating,
Speaker 1: you know that we call the police because someone has
Speaker 1: come to our house with a knife to attack us,
Speaker 1: and then we end up being the one shot. There's
Speaker 1: just so much happening constantly that I feel like so
Speaker 1: many African Americans just on un alert, or people of
Speaker 1: color are just un alert, uh the entire time, that
Speaker 1: they just can't relax if they just don't have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to relax, you know. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's ever going to change, honestly, unless something drastic happens,
Speaker 1: whether it's a bill or new policy change. I don't
Speaker 1: think that black folks in America are ever going to
Speaker 1: not be on edge, especially in areas where there's rural communities.
Speaker 1: I mean, even here in Los Angeles we just had
Speaker 1: an officer involved shooting where they're saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know the full story, but an officer police
Speaker 1: officer ran down a car and then ended up running
Speaker 1: over somebody in Los Angeles, and we're one of the
Speaker 1: most liberal cities here, so and I don't know the
Speaker 1: full story. So guys don't quote me on everything because
Speaker 1: we it's not a topic. But I'm just saying across
Speaker 1: the board from if you want to talk about Blue
Speaker 1: states and Red states policing and you know, officer involved
Speaker 1: shootings and police brutality, it's it's across the board at
Speaker 1: this point because it's it's happening too often. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of waking up and hearing about another case.
Speaker 1: We can segue this into Andrew Brown, Um of what
Speaker 1: just happened today. I just saw that the officers refused
Speaker 1: to release the body cam footage and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they did. They let the family view it,
Speaker 1: and it's only twenty seconds of what happened. So this
Speaker 1: is what we talked about pulling people accountable. So Nick,
Speaker 1: if you want to break down this story to please, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about North Carolina. Sheriff says that he wants
Speaker 1: to body camp frontage of Andrew Brown Junior's fatal shooting
Speaker 1: to become public, but he was being over he was
Speaker 1: being overstepped by higher agencies. He's followed a motion um
Speaker 1: to have that video really Brown affording to euro black
Speaker 1: man with shot and killed Wednesday by sheriff's deputy as
Speaker 1: they tried to serve him with an arrest warrant. Meantime,
Speaker 1: body camera footage of definite shooting um Um has been released,
Speaker 1: so now people are having a chance to actually see
Speaker 1: that learned. I think this is something that definitely has
Speaker 1: become a residual effect of the shop and trial. I
Speaker 1: genuinely believe that the reason so many with Makaya here
Speaker 1: are pushing to release videos because I think they understand
Speaker 1: that the best disinfectant in sunllite, right whatever, let us
Speaker 1: see this video. I think that's the reason why we
Speaker 1: saw the video so quickly with Dante. I think that's
Speaker 1: the reason why we're seeing this video so quickly with Makaya.
Speaker 1: I think this is the reason why we're seeing so
Speaker 1: this video so quickly with Mr Brown um And he's
Speaker 1: noticed how they released that audio um and and the
Speaker 1: video of this other shooting, yet another shooting of where
Speaker 1: the officer gave the guy a ride home before coming
Speaker 1: back later that day, and I think that was Isaiah Brown. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't, but I don't think that it's fully transparent.
Speaker 1: I don't so. And I say that because even with
Speaker 1: the you know, trial of Derek Chauvin, there was other
Speaker 1: bodycam footage that we never saw until the prosecution actually
Speaker 1: brought it as you know, an exhibit of evidence. So
Speaker 1: they say that they're releasing this body camera footage, but I'm,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I'm noticing there's always another angle or
Speaker 1: another video that's actually not being shown. And even in
Speaker 1: the case of Andrew Brown, this bodycam footage that was released,
Speaker 1: it was only twenty seconds. That incident was definitely longer
Speaker 1: than twenty seconds. So where's the rest of the video?
Speaker 1: And why is it that you guys don't want to
Speaker 1: show it? Is a doctor? What is it? And that
Speaker 1: only adds to the distrust that black folks in the
Speaker 1: community have, where I'm just gonna say people of color too,
Speaker 1: because you know, we just had Adam Tolato who was
Speaker 1: murdered by the police in Chicago. People of color in general.
Speaker 1: That's why there's a lack of trust within um US
Speaker 1: in the police officers, because when these officers involved shootings happened.
Speaker 1: We don't get the full story, and it seems like
Speaker 1: we never get the full story unless we're able to
Speaker 1: get to the point of a trial where charges are brought.
Speaker 1: And nine times out of ten, that's not what happens. So, Lord,
Speaker 1: aren't we passed the point where? Shouldn't we be passed
Speaker 1: the point? Why aren't we passed the point where in
Speaker 1: order to get this justice or some type of recognition,
Speaker 1: it takes UH people marching in the streets, you know. Why?
Speaker 1: Why isn't it just part of the process that these
Speaker 1: things one aren't happening and to when they do. It
Speaker 1: should not take communities coming together to march in the
Speaker 1: street in order to fight for their share of justice,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that that has to change,
Speaker 1: which may begin with one of the other topics that
Speaker 1: you brought up, UH to talk about today with the
Speaker 1: d O J. Yeah, honestly, nick Um, I'm tired of
Speaker 1: seeing protests. I'm tired of seeing the signs. I'm tired.
Speaker 1: I'm I woke up like my heart was just so
Speaker 1: heavy today and it's unfortunate that we continually have to protest,
Speaker 1: and I I'm reaching to a point where we might
Speaker 1: have to shift. Everybody was mad that Colin Kaepernick was kneeling.
Speaker 1: You know, he was black balled from the NFL for that,
Speaker 1: But wouldn't you rather us kneel at this point than
Speaker 1: have to have all of the outrage that we have.
Speaker 1: I don't know what has to happen, and I don't
Speaker 1: never want to resort to violence, but it's almost at
Speaker 1: a point where we have to start doing unto them
Speaker 1: as they do unto us, to maybe that we see
Speaker 1: a wake up call. Chris Cuomo said that, you know,
Speaker 1: cops are gonna have to start killing white kids in
Speaker 1: order for us to actually have any type of new
Speaker 1: police reform in any aspect. And honestly, day by day,
Speaker 1: I'm really starting to believe that because black bodies just
Speaker 1: don't matter at this point. They're just proving to us
Speaker 1: more and more that they don't care about these black bodies,
Speaker 1: especially kids are getting murdered. Now, Like, how do you
Speaker 1: have a sixty year old girl that's robbed of her
Speaker 1: life and then you try to poke at her and
Speaker 1: deny her of her childhood innocence. She's a child, so
Speaker 1: to treat her as if she's anything such just adds
Speaker 1: to the ultimate problem that we see every day that
Speaker 1: they just don't care. So I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: the claim and that we were first talking about this
Speaker 1: story because one of the you know things that we're
Speaker 1: reading young woman killed young woman. I said, you know
Speaker 1: that young woman was She's like Nick, she's a girl.
Speaker 1: She was not a woman. She was a girl and
Speaker 1: had her childhood innocence robbed. That's just how I feel.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if marching is going to be
Speaker 1: good enough anymore. It may have to be something else
Speaker 1: that we have to do. So oh, and I think
Speaker 1: justice should be equitable across the board. That's ridiculous. But
Speaker 1: I also say this when you're just talking about how
Speaker 1: the Chris Cuomo's comment, it also reminded me of something,
Speaker 1: you know similar I've talked about military service. I believe
Speaker 1: that until everyone has skin in the game, people won't
Speaker 1: appreciate those who have served. I really do. And I
Speaker 1: think that until every politician's child has to serve um,
Speaker 1: I think that you will be much more circumspect in
Speaker 1: decisions to send young men and women off to Afghanistan, Iraq,
Speaker 1: second and third tours of duty. I think unless everyone
Speaker 1: has skin in the game, people are not invested. I
Speaker 1: think everyone has to have a skin in the game.
Speaker 1: And education, everyone has has skin in the game. In housing,
Speaker 1: everyone has to have skin in the game. And healthcare.
Speaker 1: Until we're all in it together, it can be a
Speaker 1: some versus others game. It can be less and more.
Speaker 1: And I think that unfortunately, there are appearance of a
Speaker 1: different hue who don't find their children in these situations,
Speaker 1: and because they don't, they're having a harder time aligning
Speaker 1: with those of us who UM often find ourselves UM
Speaker 1: in these confrontations with police that don't end UM in
Speaker 1: a positive result, just as simple. And I think that
Speaker 1: people need to understand, and I think there are people
Speaker 1: who have um empathy, but I think they have a
Speaker 1: hard time truly aligning and recognizing because I think they
Speaker 1: do the But four, well, if you had just you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen Lauren, and you know she talks back a
Speaker 1: little bit, so I'm sure she mouthed offted that officer.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't she just or you know, Nick is kind
Speaker 1: of big and he is kind of dark. Why didn't
Speaker 1: he shrinked himself and why didn't he say yes, sir?
Speaker 1: And I say this to you, Lauren. I think I
Speaker 1: told flame this. I told you this. The story that
Speaker 1: bothered me the most in the last two months was
Speaker 1: definitely that lieutenant who I felt like I did everything right.
Speaker 1: I saw myself and him. I would have yes, sir, Mr.
Speaker 1: He did everything but tap dance, and it still wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough. I'm gonna open it up to the flame ets.
Speaker 1: I know somebody that wants to come in here, specifically
Speaker 1: because she's been throwing flames up this entire time. Hey,
Speaker 1: miss Jess, how are you just hied me? I've been
Speaker 1: waiting on y'all to bring me at home, but I
Speaker 1: only got one minute. I'm on, I'm on borrow. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, though, you know, because I know people have
Speaker 1: a blanket statement to have certain feelings about um people
Speaker 1: of a different hue, which my husband is of a
Speaker 1: lighter hue. UM, not all, not all people are bad people,
Speaker 1: and not all people UM of a certain job are
Speaker 1: bad people. Because yes, you do come across bad people,
Speaker 1: because I've seen it. Some military people are not as
Speaker 1: nice as others. I've experienced that. But I tend to
Speaker 1: as a civilian and as a mother, I've tend to
Speaker 1: tell you know, like, hey, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: appreciate that because my daughter serves and I'm also civilian.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be you know, that's not how you should act.
Speaker 1: But that's military law enforcement officer. How do you tell them, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, your attitude is wrong or you know
Speaker 1: what you need to you know, readjust how you're thinking,
Speaker 1: because that is coming across badly. It's different. It's hard
Speaker 1: to address that. So when they you know, and that's
Speaker 1: a problem. So there's systemic problems within the structure of
Speaker 1: the police department, but there's also problems within a person's
Speaker 1: personality that they're not fit to do that job. Period.
Speaker 1: Some people are just racist, period, and she's right they are,
Speaker 1: and then those are the people we need to weed out.
Speaker 1: And when people use the buzzword defund defund, I go, okay,
Speaker 1: you're overly sensitive to that. Okay, how about restructure. Organizations
Speaker 1: go through restructure all the time. You know, you know that,
Speaker 1: all of us know that because we've been through it
Speaker 1: with our jobs. There's always a restructuring of some form
Speaker 1: or another. If they're laying off people or they're investing,
Speaker 1: it's always a restructuring of some port. So let's restructure them,
Speaker 1: then reallocate funds and restructure the the system. Period. Absolutely no,
Speaker 1: thank you. So, um, I do want to bring in
Speaker 1: it one more framement before we go into our other topics. UM,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and get somebody new. We'll see how
Speaker 1: this works though, And while we try to bring her on,
Speaker 1: I think it's just touched on something playing We've talked
Speaker 1: about this one talked about language, language matters. Restructuring is
Speaker 1: a reform is that, you know, what do we do?
Speaker 1: But we what we recognize that what we can do
Speaker 1: is agree on a common set of factors that policing
Speaker 1: in its current form needs to change. Period. How we
Speaker 1: do that, what we do I think should be a
Speaker 1: topic of debating. I think that people should have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to decide how they want their communities police, particularly
Speaker 1: those who seem to be the ones who are most
Speaker 1: often victimized or finding themselves on the wrong side of
Speaker 1: interactions with police. Yeah, I'm like I said, I'm just
Speaker 1: very uh, I'm very tired at this point. I just
Speaker 1: feel like in a lot of ways, Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: miss just touched on um a lot of important topics,
Speaker 1: But I just feel it at this point in time, UM,
Speaker 1: we can't keep doing the same thing that we've been
Speaker 1: doing because it's just proven that it's not act So
Speaker 1: we've got to do something different. You guys were also
Speaker 1: talking about how um, you know Garland, our attorney to
Speaker 1: Geral is investing helpening investigation into Louisiana Police department on
Speaker 1: the premise of Brianna Taylor's murder. The Justice Department is
Speaker 1: opening a sweeping probe into policing in Louisville, Kentucky. Excuse me, Louisville,
Speaker 1: Kentucky UM over the March Brianna Taylor, who was shot
Speaker 1: to death by police during a raid at her home.
Speaker 1: Attorney General America Garland announced this on Monday. UM Garland
Speaker 1: also announced an investigation into the tactics of the police
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis following the death of George Floyd. So this
Speaker 1: ties into what we're talking about. It seems as though
Speaker 1: the Justice Department also recognizes that, hey, we have a
Speaker 1: problem with policing, and this was part of a promise
Speaker 1: that a President Biden and Vice President Harris made that
Speaker 1: they would look into this. That there were communities who
Speaker 1: are being disproported, disproportionately affected and that they are taking
Speaker 1: a lead on that. Hey, yes, indeed, So Hi George,
Speaker 1: how are you, Hey, how are you today? I'm good?
Speaker 1: So let us know your thoughts on some of this topic,
Speaker 1: some of our topics that were discussing here today. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here and i gotta be honest with you. I've
Speaker 1: gotten very emotional during this because, um, you know, being
Speaker 1: a black man, Nick, you know, Um, we go through
Speaker 1: it anyway, you know, And I hear all the stuff
Speaker 1: about the system, and you know, I'm just I'm fed up.
Speaker 1: But I also understand that if you don't attack the
Speaker 1: system and try to work through the system, nothing's gonna
Speaker 1: get done, you know. So, I mean the only thing
Speaker 1: I could think is that we need to protest. Now.
Speaker 1: We need to find an effective way to protest. Adding
Speaker 1: some kind of overseer for the overseers, okay. I mean
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking is maybe somebody and this is just
Speaker 1: in my head, uh, that responds the calls right along
Speaker 1: with the police. But they're there to monitor, uh, what
Speaker 1: the police are doing, and also act as a liaison
Speaker 1: when they need to be, to help calm down a
Speaker 1: potential victim or a suspect so that they don't die,
Speaker 1: you know, something that works. You know, maybe that's not
Speaker 1: the answer, but we have to start somewhere. Maybe somebody
Speaker 1: to monitor the cams, that's the outside entity from the
Speaker 1: police they're monitoring. Those body camps have to be on.
Speaker 1: It needs to be the law that they're on, and
Speaker 1: they get monitored by an agency that's not tainted by
Speaker 1: the system. Well, I will say, um, I know, Nick
Speaker 1: kind of just gave an overview of what Mary Garland's
Speaker 1: doing in terms of investigating, um, at least the Louisville
Speaker 1: Police Department, and he's also doing a similar investigation in
Speaker 1: Minneapolis due to you know, George Floyd being murdered. So
Speaker 1: my hope is at least this is maybe one of
Speaker 1: the many steps that needs to happen to actually hold
Speaker 1: police departments accountable. Because I know, um, during at least
Speaker 1: President Barack Obama's presidency, he actually followed up with different
Speaker 1: police departments to get bodycam footage. Obviously, when Trump came
Speaker 1: into office, all of that subsided. Um. But hopefully we
Speaker 1: can actually start getting back into holding police, um, you know,
Speaker 1: police departments accountable, and I think hopefully that'll start to
Speaker 1: set the norm of them holding each other accountable because
Speaker 1: I feel like we said this. You know, nobody wants
Speaker 1: to be labeled a racist. You know, in this day
Speaker 1: and age, nobody wants to be labeled as you know,
Speaker 1: oh you shot a child, you know, you're whatever that entails.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's any narrative that anybody wants
Speaker 1: at this point in time. So hopefully Lauren and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this too. You know, black folks are
Speaker 1: really good at holding each other accountable, Like we know
Speaker 1: right from wrong playements, talking about this before too. Now,
Speaker 1: if something is wrong, we have no problem saying no, brother,
Speaker 1: you were wrong, you know, right right, because we we
Speaker 1: often I think more than any of them. We often
Speaker 1: feel as though we carried the partner with everyone else. Hi, George, George,
Speaker 1: take your okay, So let's go to North Carolina. Y'all.
Speaker 1: Do know that they are doctor and they they are
Speaker 1: being surgeons right now with those videos. You know, they
Speaker 1: all turned those videos. That's why they didn't release it immediately,
Speaker 1: because when it's something like that, I mean that you
Speaker 1: immediately release it to prove your innocence. They're not trying
Speaker 1: to prove the innocence. They're trying to have the guilt. Well,
Speaker 1: only twenty seconds of the body cam footage was released.
Speaker 1: It's twenty seconds too from last night. Uh, it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: Let me say what I got to say. It's bullshit.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I know that they're doing all this
Speaker 1: and I said, they're trying to get team and this
Speaker 1: will not stop. Marching ain't work since the seventies, all
Speaker 1: this lave podcasts and we were mad and we're stomping
Speaker 1: at hump. It's not going to change anything. When it's
Speaker 1: when the color of the fruit that Billie Holiday sang
Speaker 1: about on the tree, the strange fruit changes to a
Speaker 1: different color than it'll start. I don't know what y'all
Speaker 1: need to how y'all need to receive that. But I
Speaker 1: know what I mean when I say it. But y'all
Speaker 1: need to understand that. How you I'm not promoting violence,
Speaker 1: but bitch, we gotta do what works for us, because
Speaker 1: I'm let me tell you something. They ain't tired. Are
Speaker 1: we tired? Because they ain't tired. I think we need
Speaker 1: the black We need some form of the same energy
Speaker 1: the Black Panthers have back because you talk about they're
Speaker 1: changing too many laws. George Monty we're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to have a black panther experience because we haven't
Speaker 1: even got past the Lynching Act. They just passed. They
Speaker 1: Act for the Asian Asian hate, and we've been fighting
Speaker 1: with black hate for years and you ain't nothing past.
Speaker 1: Understand me. The agenda is when they're done with us,
Speaker 1: they're going to the next group. They're just starting on
Speaker 1: the next route because they're getting rid of us fast enough. Understand,
Speaker 1: somebody is going to have to take a stand and
Speaker 1: stand up. I don't know what the outcome will be,
Speaker 1: but stay ready, that's what he said. Stay ready. I
Speaker 1: do have my I do have my hand jewlry. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've got yours, but get your hand jewelry.
Speaker 1: I ain't come about way. No. I think that is
Speaker 1: something though, that we should acknowledge that the m M
Speaker 1: bill Anti lynching uh M until anti lynching Bill has
Speaker 1: still not passed, and it's been over two hundred years.
Speaker 1: And while any type of hate towards any race is
Speaker 1: not acceptable, but in some ways, and we talked about
Speaker 1: this too in terms of you know, ally ship that
Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, Asian hate has become more
Speaker 1: prevalent and it seems like more as being done on
Speaker 1: that front, then what has been done for Black folks,
Speaker 1: because we've still been fighting this fight for so long.
Speaker 1: So I definitely hear what you're saying. Go ahead, think
Speaker 1: this Asian hate thing is a little overblown when you
Speaker 1: consider said what we've gone through historically, and even if
Speaker 1: you talk to Asians right now, there they were upset,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like people were killing them dead in
Speaker 1: the streets, you know what I'm saying. And they never
Speaker 1: protested and they never rioted, but they got the abill passed.
Speaker 1: Understand me. Well, I'm gonna say this too though, if
Speaker 1: we if we're really just going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: In systemic racism, the Asian community is not viewed as
Speaker 1: problematic for our society, meaning that and it goes back
Speaker 1: to even some of the turmoil that we have between
Speaker 1: you know, the black community and the Asian community. The
Speaker 1: Asians are smart. They worked from nothing. They were able
Speaker 1: to you know, acclimate or I should say, assimilate into
Speaker 1: society and actually be those that help enhance society. Black folks,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, and we were lazy. Um, we're
Speaker 1: not smart, We're problematic. Even in the Asian community. They
Speaker 1: have generational wealth. They don't have to suffer through the
Speaker 1: same thing that we do because they take care of
Speaker 1: one another. That's just how they are the wealth. A
Speaker 1: lot of their wealth came from exploiting the black communities,
Speaker 1: and that's very true. Absolutely, But I'm saying, let me
Speaker 1: tell you where they are not looked upon as um
Speaker 1: a threat because we worked for free for two hundred years.
Speaker 1: That is why they're upset we're not working over. I
Speaker 1: want you to pay me for everything I fucking do
Speaker 1: and I mean that, and I'm not walking to the
Speaker 1: podcast I need to be said. I'm messing with Sophia, y'all.
Speaker 1: When they were getting free labor and Nassa could go
Speaker 1: to the slave courts to get his role out whenever
Speaker 1: he felt like it, and the white woman in the
Speaker 1: house could go and call Big Henry to come in
Speaker 1: and put it down on her and his pullout gay
Speaker 1: wasn't what it was, and he told him that he
Speaker 1: raped her and they cut his penis. All shit ain't changed.
Speaker 1: It's not about penis envy or any of that. I
Speaker 1: don't understand how you're walking around here talking about you hate.
Speaker 1: Somebody called the color of that skin. That ship is
Speaker 1: learned behavior. They teach children to hate. You don't little
Speaker 1: kid and see other little kids and know that they
Speaker 1: look different from them. But you're my side, so you're
Speaker 1: my friend until you do something that I don't like.
Speaker 1: It ain't got nothing to do with you being a
Speaker 1: different color of my skin. They need to erase all
Speaker 1: these racist basses off the planet. And I'm telling you
Speaker 1: right now, until we started, we gotta be stop being
Speaker 1: scared of the cancel culture. They're always have some flame
Speaker 1: you're gonna get cancel. I ain't got started yet, so
Speaker 1: cancel me now, because I ain't even got started yet.
Speaker 1: You can't. We gotta stop being afraid to speak up.
Speaker 1: Speak up, or they're gonna cancel me. We get so
Speaker 1: uncustomed to making this money and so used to live
Speaker 1: in our lifestyles, and we become complacent that we stop fighting.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop fighting. If I run for your feathers,
Speaker 1: then I'm supposed to because you're a ruck of man.
Speaker 1: I have a black son. I'm a black man poor
Speaker 1: part of the day and a black woman the other part.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be shocked because you are afraid
Speaker 1: of what I look like because of the color of
Speaker 1: I can't change this. I changed a whole lot of
Speaker 1: other ship, but I can't change this. I cannot change this,
Speaker 1: neither do I want to. It is ummerving to think
Speaker 1: that every time you pulled over about the police, your
Speaker 1: heart is jumping out your chest, and then they put
Speaker 1: your heart. They wan it on your heart and said,
Speaker 1: why your heart beat so fast? You're scared? Of course
Speaker 1: I am. I'm terrified because am I gonna make it home?
Speaker 1: Because you stop me because I forgot to signal left turn?
Speaker 1: Am I gonna get home to my children? Because I'm
Speaker 1: a black man or black whatever? You see whatever? Because
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they even see the sex.
Speaker 1: I think all they see is the black badge of black.
Speaker 1: I speed out every time I see a coffee behind
Speaker 1: me and those lights go on, I speed die with
Speaker 1: my family. I have a programmed into my phone now
Speaker 1: because and I'm tired. I'm sorry, George. I't mean to
Speaker 1: cut you out because I only got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of apologize that. I'm tired of. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do better next time. I'm tired of forgiving.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of taking your ship. When you talk crazy
Speaker 1: to me, I talk crazy back to you. If I
Speaker 1: can only that once, but so can you. So on
Speaker 1: that note, George, I do want to say thank you
Speaker 1: so much for chiming in. UM. We're gonna keep Flame
Speaker 1: just a little bit longer because she's busy, but we
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming in UM and joining the conversation. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much. By by Georgia, so Flame. Since
Speaker 1: we got you for a couple more minutes, UM, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna turn it over to you to see if there's
Speaker 1: any other specific topic you want to discuss. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Georgia. I mean not Georgia, because I'm
Speaker 1: in Georgia. I want to talk about California and who
Speaker 1: y'all voting for for governor. Okay, so let's take it.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been recalled yet, so we don't even know
Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen. No, no, no, no, no, he anyway,
Speaker 1: that ain't what I'm talking about, Nick, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: this other so just to start, So let's let's start.
Speaker 1: So there has been enough UM signatures for the on
Speaker 1: the petition to recall Gavin Newsom. Let's start there, so
Speaker 1: that is a thing. Has he even officially recalled No,
Speaker 1: But there are enough people in California that are upset
Speaker 1: with this man that now we have somebody like a
Speaker 1: Caitlin Jenner coming to say, oh, I'm going to run,
Speaker 1: let's go to her, let's side and her source go ahead.
Speaker 1: This is the same trans woman who they gave who
Speaker 1: the sv gave a courage award for wearing a fucking dress.
Speaker 1: First of all, if you're gonna give a queen of
Speaker 1: dress a ward for wearing a dress, at least like
Speaker 1: a bitch we Q dresses. That should have been me.
Speaker 1: I would Q dress. That's first. Secondly, courage for what?
Speaker 1: But come on and become a month and twenty minutes
Speaker 1: to say that you were staying with the LGBT community.
Speaker 1: She has never done anything for the community. She did,
Speaker 1: she had light on the community, but RuPaul has been
Speaker 1: doing that for years and that's on the on the gates,
Speaker 1: not on the trans girls. And she was supposed to
Speaker 1: be a trans girl. That's second. Thirdly, she said she
Speaker 1: was a Republican. She got right on Diane say and
Speaker 1: when she came out to say, oh, I used to
Speaker 1: dress up and women's clothes, they go to bart being
Speaker 1: a trendy for many many years. If you dressed up
Speaker 1: in women's clothes, they go to a strange bar. Men
Speaker 1: are hitting on you because you're a big old man.
Speaker 1: Win a dress when they think you're a big old
Speaker 1: man and address they think you've got a big old
Speaker 1: penis to match it. So all that she never had
Speaker 1: sex with. The man was not one lad, not two lads,
Speaker 1: but three lads right in front of American people. Then
Speaker 1: she said she was a Republican. She lost me then
Speaker 1: because ain't no GOP ever wants to do anything for
Speaker 1: the trans community. And I'm not talking about the gay community.
Speaker 1: I said the trans community. They are using this man
Speaker 1: a woman as a pawn to make a fool out
Speaker 1: of because they can because the pimp Chris Jenner. I
Speaker 1: say that the pimp Chris Jenner then pushed this food
Speaker 1: out there. Instead of Chris Caitlin Jenner running for office.
Speaker 1: She needs to stop running over white women and maliboy
Speaker 1: and killing them. Now. The family didn't got paid off
Speaker 1: and said that they still support her politics even though
Speaker 1: she killed the auntie. Let me tell you something that
Speaker 1: check cash and clear, because that Kardashian money is long.
Speaker 1: I said what I said. I would not vote for
Speaker 1: h Case and Jenna because Kyln Jenner is not for
Speaker 1: the people or by other people. But she is about
Speaker 1: to be used by the Republican Party like a maniac
Speaker 1: they're about to use. I will vote for Gavin Neuson again.
Speaker 1: A he good looking be he got plenty of money.
Speaker 1: And see Nancy Pelosi's nephew. And you know I love
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. Okay, that's my piece. That's why I hate
Speaker 1: the same. Well, I'll just say this. I hope that
Speaker 1: California as a whole has learned his lesson from our
Speaker 1: previous movie stars turned governors that have not gone so well.
Speaker 1: I eat Ronald Reagan and fortunate or presidents exactly, so
Speaker 1: hopefully California learned his lesson. But um, like flame, yes,
Speaker 1: I will still continue to vote for Gavin Newson. I
Speaker 1: understand that every governor has his issues, and he has
Speaker 1: been caught in some controversy, especially around covid um, but
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to recall him by any by any means.
Speaker 1: So Nick Goha chiming, Wait, let me let me get
Speaker 1: because I got two minutes. Let me let me get
Speaker 1: this point out, and here's the here's the disrespect that
Speaker 1: came from the media when when Kaylyn Jenner killed this woman.
Speaker 1: Because he rans over and kill this woman, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's trying to put his lips take on
Speaker 1: the affects a shout, know what the hell he was doing.
Speaker 1: But when he ran over this woman and kill this
Speaker 1: woman in the car accident, then he ready got some
Speaker 1: breast in plans. Don't you know that the news made
Speaker 1: the breast implants bigger news, headline news over this woman
Speaker 1: dying because he killed her in the cards and then
Speaker 1: and then it just disappeared. Now, had that been somebody
Speaker 1: black like myself who don't have his means or his
Speaker 1: money or his reaching power that ran over white woman
Speaker 1: while trying to put on my lips set, but that
Speaker 1: don't have nothing, all right now, I bet you that
Speaker 1: the cars wouldn't have fell in my place. I couldn't
Speaker 1: wanna got some titties, It wouldn't matter. I could have
Speaker 1: wonna got titties and everything else, it wouldn't matter. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, there are two different Americas that we live in.
Speaker 1: Everybody is afraid to speak up about it because everybody's
Speaker 1: worried about the counsel. Coach, you can't counsel me because
Speaker 1: I ain't got silted yet. I understanding, I ain't even
Speaker 1: got signed on you yet. I'm telling it all. I'm
Speaker 1: telling that all. Come on. Well, the upside is uh,
Speaker 1: since generous running California, as we all know, love their
Speaker 1: celebrities because many consider an short to negative be one
Speaker 1: of your most successful governors. And the Hatner has also
Speaker 1: talked about the importance of recognizing that there are issues
Speaker 1: that affect the trans community beyond it's about more than LGBTQ.
Speaker 1: Her exact words were, and we've heard some of this before,
Speaker 1: that there are bigger issues to fight for that include
Speaker 1: all people. The trans people are much more than the
Speaker 1: letters of the alphabet. Well, baby, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: That man, that bitch is still in anyway because guests
Speaker 1: who said that on the Breakfast Club in November of
Speaker 1: Flame Monroe, I said, they're not gonna see us until
Speaker 1: we see us. And there's so many more issues for
Speaker 1: the trans community fight besides the pro nown or bathroom
Speaker 1: right and that she want to steal my ship. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't vote for that nigga in my name boy, named
Speaker 1: girl named cat or don't no, thank you. Let me
Speaker 1: tell something and if y'all got any sense, you'll better
Speaker 1: stay away from that Kardashian COUCHI because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you somebody now, Chris is the head of it. You
Speaker 1: know she used to mess around with O. J. Simpson
Speaker 1: back in the day. Let me tell you something that
Speaker 1: is hainted. It makes black men cut a women white
Speaker 1: women's his and it may turn make white men turn
Speaker 1: into white women. I E O J. I E. Caitlyn, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'll teach you about and just to put
Speaker 1: a button on at the campaign to recall Gavin Newsom
Speaker 1: has not officially qualified for the ballot, but both sides
Speaker 1: expected to. Elections officials are sifting through petitions submitted by
Speaker 1: proponents to see if they contain the required one point
Speaker 1: five million signatures of valid registered voters. They expect challenges,
Speaker 1: and proponents say they submitted about two point one million
Speaker 1: signatures to make sure that they not only met, they
Speaker 1: exceeded that required number. Yeah. I did see reports to
Speaker 1: that the Kardashian family is not formally endorsing Caitlyn Jenner,
Speaker 1: and they said that they're not going to formally endorse
Speaker 1: any candidate, however, Um, Like I said, I just hope
Speaker 1: that California learned from its mistakes. Um. I would be
Speaker 1: curious to see how this plays out. Though. If Caitlyn
Speaker 1: Jenner gets one point five million signatures, Uh no, Lie,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a little baffled, I really am. So
Speaker 1: you know, you know, uh, Lauren, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: state that loves celebrity, so I can I can see
Speaker 1: it happening. And you know, California is easily the weirdest state, right,
Speaker 1: great data. I lived there too many years, know you know.
Speaker 1: Uh And and I had a graduate advisor said, you know, Nick,
Speaker 1: it would be your best interest to leave California. You
Speaker 1: need to go east. That's why I ended up going
Speaker 1: to a graduate school in Boston's like, you've got to
Speaker 1: get out of California. I've become too. I was spending
Speaker 1: too much time with Larry Kramer and the others and
Speaker 1: act up and all that. So I was I was
Speaker 1: deep in the heart of all of it and realized
Speaker 1: that something needed to kind of shake up there. Um.
Speaker 1: But an election would likely be held in November. It
Speaker 1: would consists of two questions shouldn't Newsond be recalled and
Speaker 1: who should replace him? And Newsom cannot put his name
Speaker 1: on the ballot to replace himself, so we will. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. I definitely say this, there'll be a
Speaker 1: lot of money thrown into a You know that, don't you? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, exactly. Jen has got a lot of friends.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. That I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: ads you can expect to see on TV. Every other
Speaker 1: commercial will be an ad. Every other commercial will be
Speaker 1: an ad, uh for for the governor's race. I think
Speaker 1: Mary Carey is running. I remember again when I recall
Speaker 1: of Davis Um that all the subvers came out, the
Speaker 1: one who I forget, Gary Coleman ran h for governor,
Speaker 1: Mary carry Angeline Lauren. You old enough to remember Angela,
Speaker 1: Yes I am. So it's like all everybody. I remember
Speaker 1: the billboards everywhere, you know, like well, Mary Carrey, you
Speaker 1: know so, Yes, it'll be interesting to see how this
Speaker 1: all shakes out. Let's talk about Brett Kavanaugh because the
Speaker 1: Newsday that came out today, Justice Kavanaugh ruled in a
Speaker 1: Supreme Court six at three decision that children can be
Speaker 1: sent to jail for life without the possibility of parole.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the sentence of life
Speaker 1: without parole for juvenile offender and a six three decision
Speaker 1: rejecting arguments as such sentences should have additional limits. Justice
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh penned the decision for his conservative colleagues, holding that
Speaker 1: quote a sentence or will not have to make a
Speaker 1: separate finding that the juvenile offender was incapable of being rehabilitated.
Speaker 1: So it used to be that you had to say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this person can't be rehabilitated. He's like, now,
Speaker 1: don't need to do that. We can go ahead and
Speaker 1: sentence the a none but a number. I have to
Speaker 1: say that the fact that Brett Kavanaugh was leading this,
Speaker 1: I think is an absolute joke, considering the fact of
Speaker 1: all of his mistakes and past transgressions that he's had
Speaker 1: that even you know, came to light regarding him being remember,
Speaker 1: none of that happened nor because we never we never
Speaker 1: got the opportunity to have an official investigation that they
Speaker 1: never know allowed that to go forward. I think it's
Speaker 1: absolutely appalling that this man, of all people on the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is saying this, and to say that children
Speaker 1: can't be redeemable, And isn't it interesting too on the
Speaker 1: heels of Trump exiting the White House. A story that
Speaker 1: hasn't really been covered is the fact that Mitch McConnell
Speaker 1: took these past four years to line all the circuit courts,
Speaker 1: all of these racist white judges with these lifetime appointments,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we're gonna be start to
Speaker 1: see all of these children who are people of color
Speaker 1: going to jail for life sentences. This has all been
Speaker 1: very strategic and what the so called justice system has
Speaker 1: been doing. So the fact that Mitch started it, you know,
Speaker 1: Trump let uh laid out the red carpet for this
Speaker 1: to happen. And now you have Brett Kavanaugh, who was
Speaker 1: also another Trump pick kiss saying all of these kids
Speaker 1: can go to jail for lifetime appointments. I'm appalled. I
Speaker 1: really am, Paul. I think I'm gonna say, you know,
Speaker 1: I I have asked this question I wish for and
Speaker 1: we're here before now because I I do believe children
Speaker 1: are redeemable, but I understand where they are because you know,
Speaker 1: we actually just talked about those the fourteen and six
Speaker 1: year old in d C who carjacked that God, should
Speaker 1: they be thrown in jail for life or be given
Speaker 1: the death penalty? You know? And I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: that there's space to save some people. I believe there's possibly,
Speaker 1: but I understand people like, no, they take a life
Speaker 1: where they do this, they need to be locked weight
Speaker 1: throwing key Burnham, I get it. Like there are people
Speaker 1: who feel that way about Kyle Rittenhouse. I'm like, he's seventeen.
Speaker 1: I have to believe he's not. The thing is, don't
Speaker 1: It's it's more to it though. It's not just about
Speaker 1: kids being redeemable, because yes, you obviously have kids making
Speaker 1: you know, may commit some crime or whatever. It's more
Speaker 1: so that's I think that's being a kid. I think
Speaker 1: kids do, you make mistakes. But the more the the
Speaker 1: important part of this that I don't want us to
Speaker 1: miss is the fact that let's say a kid does
Speaker 1: get arrested. Because we talked about the six year old
Speaker 1: boy who picked a tool up on his way to
Speaker 1: school and then ended up having a whole trial. The
Speaker 1: fact that these we're gonna have kids who are people
Speaker 1: of color being arrested, and then you have parents who
Speaker 1: can't afford to provide them with attorneys or provide them
Speaker 1: with actual proper legal counsel. So they're gonna be sitting
Speaker 1: in jail anyway, not even being able to get their
Speaker 1: day in court. They're gonna be in there for life anyway.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the sad part about this. And let's
Speaker 1: say that you do get the opportunity to go to
Speaker 1: court and plead your case. You can't provide proper legal
Speaker 1: counsel for yourself, so you're gonna end up getting the
Speaker 1: life appointments for petty crimes or even in a situation
Speaker 1: where you're not guilty, you might have just been in
Speaker 1: the wrong place at the wrong time. So this is
Speaker 1: just setting us up to continue to pour more money
Speaker 1: into the private privn the private prison system, because every
Speaker 1: time a bed is filled with a body, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody else is getting a paycheck. So this is all
Speaker 1: part of a greater systemic cycle of racism that is
Speaker 1: just getting bigger and bigger by the day. That's what
Speaker 1: that's what this really is in full in full view,
Speaker 1: so that way we're not missing anything. This was a ploy.
Speaker 1: That's finally we're seeing it play out in real time.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be is going to be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how this um, how sweeping this decision
Speaker 1: affects people that I think that they're not always considering
Speaker 1: because I don't think that they I don't know, I
Speaker 1: have no idea, but I don't think they considered the
Speaker 1: Kyle rittenhouses of the world when they wrote this sweeping decision.
Speaker 1: I think that, like you're saying, I think that it
Speaker 1: may have been focused primarily on UH communities that are
Speaker 1: most oftenly disproportionately affected by the criminal justice system. And
Speaker 1: I think we know that, like you said, Lauren, they're
Speaker 1: just people who do not get the representation that they deserve.
Speaker 1: Who Ben Trump can come to everyone's home, He just can't.
Speaker 1: And now, now mind you, the minute heaven forbid I'm
Speaker 1: gunned down or I'm pleased connect him with my mother. Um,
Speaker 1: we can, you know, so that at least Mr Zetti
Speaker 1: can get a check or two, and you know, and
Speaker 1: and and and do all right, you know, it's but
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where everyone should not have
Speaker 1: to pine for Ben Crump, nor should everyone have to
Speaker 1: need him. But unfortunately, I think that the simple truth is, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: should one find oneself in the confrontation with law enforcement
Speaker 1: that does not end positively. All one can do is
Speaker 1: to hope to have that case um visibly displayed and
Speaker 1: have some type of civil justice be the be the
Speaker 1: the punitive effect landing on those who were the perpetrators. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean, and I want to clarify to I'm
Speaker 1: not of the I don't think kids can be redeemable.
Speaker 1: I think that that's definitely a thing. I as to
Speaker 1: what I said, I don't think Written is redeemable because
Speaker 1: he's just he's too far gone at this point. But
Speaker 1: my point in saying all of this is it's past
Speaker 1: kids paying redeemable. There's a greater um subliminal issue here
Speaker 1: than just kids being redeemable. It's more, it's more to
Speaker 1: that than at this point based on what this Supreme
Speaker 1: Court decision was led by Brett Kavanaugh. So I'm totally
Speaker 1: with you. I'm not comfortable with children being tried as adults.
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't believe a seventeen year old mind.
Speaker 1: I don't believe a seventeen year old mind is fully developed. Yeah, okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think he should be tried. I'm sorry that was
Speaker 1: when in in situations that said I'm sorry in this situation.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we part ways on that he's seventeen and
Speaker 1: intentionally drove around state lines to shoot people. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry that no, no, not bring guns across state line.
Speaker 1: He shot people too though, Yeah, and get water and
Speaker 1: in assistance. But let's let's I'm the one to just
Speaker 1: shout that guy, can I have some water you? Okay? Right?
Speaker 1: Because similarly, Nick is Dylan Roof Redeemable Dylan, but he's
Speaker 1: he's in his late twenties, so he was now he
Speaker 1: was twenty though when it happened, though, right, I want
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, okay, we'll shoot Congredden House knew better too.
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