WEBVTT - NOT HIM OR HER WILL GET MY VOTE, AND THEY’RE THE SAME PERSON

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<v Speaker 1>Laughing lame he laughing with if you watch Coffee Time

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<v Speaker 1>to Baby, you know the name Flame, my role also

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<v Speaker 1>known as my role Flame. Come in with last and

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<v Speaker 1>come in with jn love lounds. Baby, you better catch

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<v Speaker 1>it when you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics,

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<v Speaker 1>shouting now comics, just paying homics. What's up till yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know she raped shot towns on speak into the

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<v Speaker 1>grown a second. We're gonna last cut of the kicking

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end we leave it, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>lift dispirit you think you want to revisit, So your

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<v Speaker 1>first take a list of jim folks like it's lit

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<v Speaker 1>old folks that we dig it today. Can't nope, do

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<v Speaker 1>what you don't? Nois do what you do, can't nopekiss

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<v Speaker 1>do what I do. No we we would officially welcome

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<v Speaker 1>everybody to laugh and learn. Today, as we can see,

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<v Speaker 1>things are a little different. Um Flame is traveling on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. Nick, you're actually back in the office. So

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<v Speaker 1>you got a green screen background today and I just

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<v Speaker 1>hand it back in time to get here because I

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<v Speaker 1>got back from Florida yesterday. So we've all been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of scattered all across the place. So how is your

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<v Speaker 1>week going, Nick, Lauren is actually going well. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the things, you know, you you took off.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you took off like on Thursday, right, Wednesday night, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night. Yeah, because you know, when you were out there,

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<v Speaker 1>we were, you know, Flam and I were talking like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we gotta make sure we keep that prayer

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<v Speaker 1>cloth and prayer warriors out there for you because you're

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<v Speaker 1>traveling away from home and things have gotten so crazy now.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that. And again, Lauren, I say this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're a grown woman, but we still see

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<v Speaker 1>you as young and we sit there were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta watch out for you, just to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you okay. So I'm just glad you made it back.

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<v Speaker 1>But my weekend was pretty good. I didn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the norm. You know, I was kind of here.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that we'd be coming back into the studio

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<v Speaker 1>this week, so a lot of it was preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>that um and just trying trying to be in place

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<v Speaker 1>for that and getting back into the mental space of actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming back into a real office and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So yeah, yeah, but it was a good week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Yeah for me. Honestly, I was more so

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about traveling before the Derek Shown verdict came down.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my main thing that I was concerned about.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that it came down on Tuesday and

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<v Speaker 1>then nothing crazy really erupted, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole, we all got the verdict that we wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to fly on Wednesday, like with a

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<v Speaker 1>sigh of relief. And plus I was going to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Florida is crazy, so it was everything works,

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<v Speaker 1>it happens for a reason. I'm a firm believer of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad everything worked out for sure, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a successful trip as well. Oh my god. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I can kind of update you because

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked yet. Um. I did the Florida AIDS Walk.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from my other job, you guys. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually we had an AIDS walk in a music festival,

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<v Speaker 1>all socially distance in Florida, which some people had some

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<v Speaker 1>things to say about that, but we got to stay safe. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the music festival component was actually with a little

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<v Speaker 1>Kim and Trina, Yes, so um I got to work

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<v Speaker 1>with them. A very enjoyable experience UM. As always, events

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<v Speaker 1>are very hectic, especially on the talent front, but overall

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<v Speaker 1>it was so successful. Um Kim brought her daughter with

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<v Speaker 1>her and they had a little moment on stage. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually went viral and ended up on the Shade Room

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<v Speaker 1>with like over four million views US in Hollywood Unlocked

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else. So overall it was a super sexful,

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<v Speaker 1>successful event and we actually raised one point nine million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is awesome. I think one of the things too,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes that so special is that both Trina and

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<v Speaker 1>Kim have been in the game for a while. They

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<v Speaker 1>really are I believe they are icons. You know. They

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<v Speaker 1>really have to kind of lay the groundwork for so

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<v Speaker 1>many female artists in the industry just beyond wrap, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just being uh female who are writing, producing their own material,

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward and staying saying viable in a highly competitive field.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the game is the game is tough, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, definitely. And the thing is they're sweet and personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's always what I look for because I work

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<v Speaker 1>with a myriad of people in talent, But Kim is

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<v Speaker 1>a sweetheart and Trina is too, so I always appreciate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, folks like that because you know, some people

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<v Speaker 1>can be up at like, oh talk to my manager,

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak to me, and we're not like that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Helped Trina drove herself to the event and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need ground transportation on time. So yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>really lovely individuals and special people to hip hop games.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was it was special folks. Catch up folks,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you you kind of keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>on everything. There Where is Flame today? And why isn't

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<v Speaker 1>she with us right now? Catch us up? So Flame

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<v Speaker 1>is in Atlanta, which I'm sure some of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have already seen because she went live for her drag

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<v Speaker 1>show yesterday. But Flame went to Atlanta because she had

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<v Speaker 1>a drag show, and she's actually on her way to

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<v Speaker 1>the studio because she's gonna be multitasking. She's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a live event with M T. S. Madison and Sophia

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly as well, So she's gonna pop in on here

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<v Speaker 1>for our hour and then she's gonna pop over to

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<v Speaker 1>the other show. But she's in route, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>Lift has been acting crazy lately, so um a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of lifts canceled on her, so she's just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the studio, so she doesn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>internet connection issues. But long story short, she's in Atlanta, working, working, working,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what, I'm glad to hear that that's

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<v Speaker 1>not just here. Everybody's been talking about lifting Uber really

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<v Speaker 1>crazy lately because you know, for the longest, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a car, so I depended on Uber and lifting

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<v Speaker 1>and things have really kind of changed. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what has caused that change, but you know, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>been a problem even or uh So I'm surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case, even in Atlanta, but clearly there's something

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<v Speaker 1>happening with the system overall. If that's what everyone is experiencing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's across the board, because it's just not Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>There was issues with Lift in Florida that I was having,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's been everybody I know of it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be having issues. So I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with their system. I know people are biting drivers

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<v Speaker 1>next in different things, so I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with the Lift. You know, we see and we talked.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to Flame here for a second. You

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we see and talk to Flame multiple times today.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's just but there's something about Flame

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<v Speaker 1>on stage that I particularly enjoy and it makes me

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with Flame all over again. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. I said to Flame that,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know you here with that had those

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<v Speaker 1>glasses even Bacon, I don't know who that is, but

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<v Speaker 1>will say I love it. Learn I love seeing Flame perform.

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<v Speaker 1>And Flame did something in the pantsuit that uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know her her her stylist, I'm not gonna say styles

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<v Speaker 1>her designer, Martin Elliott, with whom she's worked for years.

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<v Speaker 1>They go back and forth, but I said, I swear it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, if they're not yelling at each other, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not community. It's not it's not gonna work. If they're

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<v Speaker 1>not yelling at each other, the magic is not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that. So and every time Martin pulls I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how Martin does it, but he gets those

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<v Speaker 1>like a glove and it just looks fantastic. Sure, I

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta be honest. He can sell his ass off.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta say it right, because it's impressive of the

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<v Speaker 1>work that he does so such a short period of time. Too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Flames. I wanted to do this just any

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<v Speaker 1>other okay, okay, okay, and then he just gets that

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<v Speaker 1>machine and he just does it exactly so so I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a Flame pop up that she's here, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's not coming in yet, so I'm gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>keep inviting her. But in the meantime, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can definitely you know, start the show, um someone. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start more so with like our um less

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<v Speaker 1>heavy topics, I feel like, because it just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>every week we've been having such a heavy show, but

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<v Speaker 1>we just have to address what's happening in the world

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like if we don't have these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tell conversations and you know, what type of content are

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<v Speaker 1>we putting out? You know, we have to really have

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<v Speaker 1>attention and love what we're doing. So let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the lighter stuff and then you know, Flame pop isn't great,

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<v Speaker 1>um Nick, but I'm gonna turn it over to you though.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's starting to circle back because Flame wants to

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<v Speaker 1>join in us because Flame probably is listening and just

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<v Speaker 1>can't jump in right now, and we know how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Laren, you just touched on something because

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<v Speaker 1>some of the feedback we've gotten, and I do take

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<v Speaker 1>the time you guys want you to know, I take

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<v Speaker 1>the time to read the comments and um, people, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard a couple of people say, um, it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>show week after week. Everything is so heavy and you

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<v Speaker 1>all used to laugh and we still want to laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Flame and Lauren and I would argue that,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, we want to laugh. We would love to

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing but have a show. Maybe what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>the oscars or the NFL draft and all the things

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<v Speaker 1>was so much continues to happen that we both that

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<v Speaker 1>all three of us feel affects the community that it is. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an incumbent part of us too. It's incumbent upon

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<v Speaker 1>us to have the conversation because we know you all

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<v Speaker 1>having the conversation. And that's what Flame has always said

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<v Speaker 1>from day she wanted to laugh and learned to be

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation. So join in, jump in, let us know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you find a lighter moment, please share it. We

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<v Speaker 1>you know we we we beg of you to join

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<v Speaker 1>us and uh and help us to uh keep the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation light and fun. But we also don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>neglect our duty and the opportunity that we have with

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<v Speaker 1>the platform UH to speak on things that affect the community.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna go ahead and just jump in there

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<v Speaker 1>with something I feel like you touched on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly I forgot What did you think about the Oscars?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to I know we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden in a second, what did you think about

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<v Speaker 1>the Oscars? I gotta ask you, Nick. You know what, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a little bit of it, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I didn't hate it, but it didn't keep

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<v Speaker 1>me compelled. I write that that makes sense. I think

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<v Speaker 1>what I liked was what did I like? What I

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<v Speaker 1>liked was seeing Viola Davis Like I love Viola and

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about her, just her comfort and her scan,

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<v Speaker 1>her struggle, her story, all of that that just works

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Right. But I think, Lauren, I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where and I'm not sure if social media

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<v Speaker 1>is the reason why, or the fact that there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many different platforms to see things. I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>over celebrities that I no longer sit back in awe

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<v Speaker 1>when they hit the stage like you used to. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a time, you know, I think those who maybe

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<v Speaker 1>also like me and maybe born in the seventies can

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and tell you that there's a time when

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<v Speaker 1>you sat there, you waited with bated breath to see

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<v Speaker 1>what so and so would wear or what they would

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<v Speaker 1>look like, because you weren't oversaturated with celebrities. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't seeing them every day on Instagram, on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is there. You know. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that because we see it so much, Lauren, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>as um in awe as I used to be, or

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<v Speaker 1>as enamored as I once was. But having said that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about just seeing so many young black faces

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<v Speaker 1>out there occupying those spaces that used to seem so

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<v Speaker 1>revered to you know, and in early on um Daniel Kaliga,

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<v Speaker 1>I always I love seeing him, his mama, his sister, Lauren.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it sounds cheesy, but I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>do something like that, have my mama sitting up there watching,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I could feel his joy. Mom, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually attend what happened with that? I did not attend.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Yeah, so that was it. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>have dragged my mama right up in there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things where Laura, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that those moments are just so special, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I see these faces that look more like you and me, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're receiving and celebrating that joy. Um. There was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>some highlights at the Oscars for me, like Glenn Close

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<v Speaker 1>having that moment with Little Carell doing the butt and

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<v Speaker 1>gave the backstory of it and basically said Spike Lee

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<v Speaker 1>was robbed. Definitely a highlight for me. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean in the similar vain nick. Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not celebrity struck or star struck, you know what I mean. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think it's because like I worked with

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<v Speaker 1>talent a lot. It's just I've never been that way. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say is what I do watch these

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<v Speaker 1>awards shows for is the fashion. I'm always like looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>like what can I gag at? Like what are the

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<v Speaker 1>what are the costume you know, designs? They're technically costumes

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<v Speaker 1>to me, But what is the fashion looking like for

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<v Speaker 1>the season of you know, these awards season or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's more so what I'm being attentive to. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>On a downside, I was very sad that Andre Day

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<v Speaker 1>didn't win. I really felt like she should have won

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<v Speaker 1>Best Actress for that category. She gave an impeccable formance

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<v Speaker 1>for Billie Holiday, and it just her performance was just

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<v Speaker 1>a parallel opposite for me from like Lady Sings the

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<v Speaker 1>Blues with Diana Ross, because while it was a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a true story of Billie Holiday, it just, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>new what Andre Day did. It was just a a

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<v Speaker 1>different raw form that I saw Billy Holiday in a

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<v Speaker 1>different light, and it wasn't anything negative. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was something positive in a way despite all of the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, turmoil and tragedy that she had to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just really felt like andre Day didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>her flowers last night. So it was very ready. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're talking about two very different movies and

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<v Speaker 1>both and both can be celebrated in their own way.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely agree. Um, it's like The Wiz is not the Odds,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the Wizard of Odds. Yes, those are two.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two very different things. Absolutely, I completely agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Chadwick Boseman got robbed. That was honestly

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<v Speaker 1>the that was huge for me, Like I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>they centered the whole Oscars around Chadwick Boseman and then

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<v Speaker 1>not to give him that award was kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>like why, was like why did that happen? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and a lot of and then at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the program, I don't know if you saw to Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>the Oscars basically explained how they select their individual folks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they had to justify what they did

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<v Speaker 1>because they knew they were wrong in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I felt like they gave us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit they gave us a foot

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<v Speaker 1>and not our mile that we deserved. So it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's enough to kind of silence you guys to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're not so white anymore, but we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you all that you deserve here. We

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<v Speaker 1>still gotta, you know, stick to our sound fundation of

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<v Speaker 1>what the Oscars is. That's just you kind of mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Also you touched on fashion in there, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say this, Can we agree that a couple of those

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<v Speaker 1>brothers wore some really uh nice looking things like and

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what you know. I've had this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with my mom. Everything doesn't look good on everybody. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things like I couldn't have got out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way where but it looked good. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the brother's name. Who were the future like?

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<v Speaker 1>And you like sitting You're like, what was he thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>But it looked good on him. He looked good on

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<v Speaker 1>his skin and look Keith, that looked good. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, But I also think, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>helps to be you know, taller, thinner brother were you

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<v Speaker 1>know what what he wore? But I just thought it

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<v Speaker 1>looked good, and you know, because I think that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the challenges when you're a bigger guy is finding

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<v Speaker 1>clothes that are that fit appropriately, you know, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just can't wear the can't wear you can't wear

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<v Speaker 1>the high the high ankle pants and things like I

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<v Speaker 1>looked better dressed bore like Unchael straighthand you know, nicely

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<v Speaker 1>simple traditional suit keeping it, you know, just just keep

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<v Speaker 1>the clean, you know, and doing that. So, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know your body, you got you gotta know your body.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I want to jump on in

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<v Speaker 1>there with Lauren. I brought it up simply because later

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<v Speaker 1>this week we're expecting Wednesday, President Biden to make his

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<v Speaker 1>first address to joint sessions of Congress. President Biden nears

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<v Speaker 1>the end of his first one hundred days in office,

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<v Speaker 1>with the slight majority of Americans approving of his performance

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<v Speaker 1>and supporting his majority policy initiative. On Wednesday, he will

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<v Speaker 1>address a joint session of Congress. He's expected to outline

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<v Speaker 1>his American Family's Plan, which will reportedly be paid for

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<v Speaker 1>by tax heights on wealthy Americans, and just breaking down

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers of adults say they approve of the job

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<v Speaker 1>Biden is doing compared with for who disapproved. So I think,

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything, I just want to throw it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, um um. I personally believe that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons Biden's numbers are in a positive direction, I

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<v Speaker 1>personally think it's because we're seeing less of him. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that there's something about his lack of desire to

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<v Speaker 1>be in front of the camera, like the former administration

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<v Speaker 1>has worked to his advantage. I think, in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>the bar for President Biden has been placed so low

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<v Speaker 1>by so many. Uh, there's still jokes about his age,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still jokes about him falling, there's still there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>always so many references to that that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>anytime he can actually stand upright and not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a slobber over himself. People consider it a win, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's one of the reasons why his

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are so high. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that within the first hundred days that he's

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<v Speaker 1>nearing it, he's not even there yet. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot for you know, the country. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say that. I think in some ways he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>playing to his strengths and saying that, hey, this may

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<v Speaker 1>not be something I need to tackle. So he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of given those big policy initiatives of Kamala Harris and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wanting her to spearhead that. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>say that to say two is I think and this

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<v Speaker 1>is again my opinion. I don't have any sources or

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<v Speaker 1>anybody confirm this. I don't know if Biden wants to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, run again for president. So I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>strategically given Kamala Harris some of those big policy initiatives

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<v Speaker 1>so that way she can kind of step out of

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<v Speaker 1>her on her own court if she chooses to run.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think as a whole though he's he is,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing a great job. He has he inherited a

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up administration. Um. You know, not just from the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>just the policies that were previously implemented. He inherited a

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up justice system. Um from the d O J.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think as a whole, you know, he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fare the best way that he can. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do I want to give Joe Biden kudos today, um,

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<v Speaker 1>even for you know, handling COVID. Um Nick, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind sharing this with you because Flame is ready, She's

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<v Speaker 1>about to come in a second, so we can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have this moment really quickly. Um. I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>actually getting vaccinated, and I know I haven't even told

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<v Speaker 1>you that too, so we can, you know, quickly do

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<v Speaker 1>this because I know Flames not I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Um well, I did end up getting vaccinated.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a personal choice, like we've always said, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was something I had to do because I was

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<v Speaker 1>traveling for work. UM. So I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to share your story too, but I gotta give

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<v Speaker 1>kudos to Joe Biden. You know, he said some things

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<v Speaker 1>we may not want to do, but you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had to do it. And so because of

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<v Speaker 1>my own personal reasons. I ended up doing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't lie. I do feel like I feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little safer, especially considering I went to Florida, so and

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<v Speaker 1>that's really why I did it. But yeah, good for you,

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<v Speaker 1>And did you have any adverse side effects anything you wanted?

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<v Speaker 1>It was terrible. Yeah, it felt like I had food poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>For my second dose, I was very tired. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a headache. It wasn't the best feeling. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like feeling like I have food poisoning, and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>painful for me. Um. So I'm not getting any more shots.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about a booster. I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything else. I'm done. I'm I'm definitely definitely done.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but you also and help me here, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>you also did it also protect those around you? Correct? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So like you guys, we've all said, like I still

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<v Speaker 1>live at home with my parents, personal reasons, I've got

0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff going on. So I had to get vaccinated because

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<v Speaker 1>I got to protect other people, you know, I just do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's what I did. And as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going back and forth to California to the

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<v Speaker 1>show and and things like that. I was traveling so much,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got my I did get my Fightser, I

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:27.000
<v Speaker 1>did Fightser Advisor. I completed my round back in February,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I shared that because I went through

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<v Speaker 1>the v A. So I was and there were people

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't show up, and they're like, hey, ms Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>we can do you a blue closed in fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there and eight. So I ran up there

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<v Speaker 1>and got mine, you know, and once you were on

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<v Speaker 1>the first shot, you automatically we're listed for the for

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<v Speaker 1>the second. So yeah, like you've had no adverse I've

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<v Speaker 1>had no adverse side effects, and trying to give space

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<v Speaker 1>to people who are still trying to make that decision

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves. But I am happy to be vaccinated. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's wait and let's bring flame on in. She's ready.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I just wanted to get the health the

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<v Speaker 1>way because I I'm not talking about that, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>put it out there. Hello fla mans, good morning, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I know such things. I'm I met. I

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<v Speaker 1>met a studio with Sophia Macintage the world famous, and

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<v Speaker 1>George and and Gordian it's three here. Would you tell?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you tell? Sophia. I have been a fan for

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<v Speaker 1>years Sophia, Nick and Laurence, and they're fans of yours. Fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a great time last night if you weren't

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.439
<v Speaker 1>trapping and we were people forming tonight. But the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one anniversary of Stars of the Century, y'all, I love it, said,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I had laughed with our brought my ring

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<v Speaker 1>like to do this. So in between, geeess, we're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we talked about right, because I got about

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes, folks, so we go, like, we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on with you? Lauren and I

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<v Speaker 1>are just a feeling that you kind of got here.

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<v Speaker 1>What ain't about me? Right now? It's about Virginia and Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you something I said last week on

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<v Speaker 1>Laugh and Learn. If they give us one, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want team. Fifteen minutes after the decision came down guilty, guilty, guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>they shot Mkaire Brian and and killed her dead. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, we had to keep looking at all these

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<v Speaker 1>different stories. We had to keep looking at all these

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<v Speaker 1>different ways because they were trying to segway to find

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<v Speaker 1>the way to say that the officer was innocent. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they went back and researched the officer's past, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that what what they do to the victim.

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<v Speaker 1>This nigga, the officer was a decorated smartsman from the military.

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<v Speaker 1>This nigga was William Tail. This nigga could shoot an

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<v Speaker 1>apple off somebody's head from a million paces. So when

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<v Speaker 1>he came out with all this, he wasn't ready. He

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<v Speaker 1>poured up into commotion. He was a sharp shooter. He

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<v Speaker 1>could have shot that knife out her hand because he

0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>was trained and decorated to do that. That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to do, if you want to know the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted a too fir. He shot at her four

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<v Speaker 1>times because he thought he was gonna get huh, and

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the girl that she was going to stay. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can that you don't like what I say. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a fuck. Well, I'll jump in here because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting that you say that to flame,

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<v Speaker 1>because I did see on the news. Um, somebody asked, well,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you guys you know Marksman's that you guys can

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<v Speaker 1>shoot in certain areas. And I believe that I don't remember, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I believe that the police chief of um

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio basically said, well, you know, we can't really do

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<v Speaker 1>that because we can't train our officers to be that way.

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So we have to make it general and they just

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<v Speaker 1>have to assess the threat. So that was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the way of them trying to backpedal. Basically what you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying in terms of this is why he shot her

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<v Speaker 1>four times. Huh. He thought he was gonna get a

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<v Speaker 1>two for So those who are joining a flame was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this spate of violence that we've had um

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking specifically about the shooting incident with mccayah

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Brand mccaya brand. On the same day that the verdict

0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 1>came down in Minneapolis and found uh former police officer

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<v Speaker 1>guilty of murder and George Floyd, a six year old

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>girl was shot and killed by an officer in Columbus, Ohio.

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Um mckaya Bryant was shot Tuesday afternoon by a Columbus

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.719
<v Speaker 1>police officer responding to a call for help at her

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<v Speaker 1>Foster home. Authorities quickly released body camp footage and the

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>nine one one calls, and they identified the officer immediately

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>as Nicholas Reardon. Um and Flay mentioned Lauren, how you

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<v Speaker 1>know he was a sharpshooter in the military before joining

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the police department. UM, and that has definitely been you know,

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I think what has happened more than anything but this

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>particular case, I have heard more conversation about this one

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>than I have some of the others. It seems to

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>me that members are divided. I think that there are

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>people who have kind of felt like officers for years

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>have said that there are usually gray areas to these things,

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is the first one where people,

0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>even sitting back watching have have even said that, Okay,

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 1>this one is a little great to some people. Some

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>people don't feel as though this one is as cut

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and dry as say, maybe what we saw when we

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>saw the killing of George Floyd, that we know that

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that there's no way to spend that. In my mind,

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>speaking only for myself, I think that a Derek shove

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and George Floyd to me was not to be callous,

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was very black and white to me. There

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was no gray in that. I understand why some people

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>are struggling with how they feel or what should have

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>happened in the Macaya Bryant situation. Well, my thing is this,

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>as a whole I'm tired of waking up and hearing

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>about another innocent black young life being taken. That's just

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of where I am at this point. And I've

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>seen so many we're going to call them parallel videos

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 1>where for instance, there was this um individual, he actually

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>had a knife. He was a white man. Police literally

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>were trying to lunge at him to protect him with

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>their bare hands so that way they didn't have to,

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, discharge a taser or fire their gun, and

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>this man was actually lunging to stab the officers. He

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't shot, he wasn't killed, but he was this old

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>white man, So of course there's privilege there. But yet again,

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have this young white officer that's going

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>into a black neighborhood, just sees that mckaya Brian has

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a knife on her and shoot decides to shoot her.

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>And the unfortunate thing is this whole situation erupted because

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>apparently the sisters were fighting over who was going to

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<v Speaker 1>clean up the house. So the fact that it was

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>something something so small and just something so just it

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that big of a deal to have to have

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 1>her life ended. And she's the one that called the

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>police for help. We always say it's the police's job

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to protect and serve us, and that's not what they do.

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So the fact that go ahead, No, And I think

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that this goes back to what we've talked about from

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>from day one, because even I think even language matters,

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 1>right because like you said, and you're right that you know,

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>this young girl's, this innocent life should not have to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken period. I'm going to argue that even if

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>she isn't, in said, it shouldn't end in her death.

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>You get what I'm staying there. So what happens is

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it becomes a situation where you have they have put

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>the onus on us to decide, well, she maybe she

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 1>should have, should she should How about we take another

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 1>look at training because I do believe that possibly de escalation.

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was not there, but what I

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>do know is something you said is absolutely true. It

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>is ridiculous that we continue to wake up day after

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>day reading about seeing video, of learning, of witnessing whatever

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, of a another black life being taken

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>um and some type of officer involved incident. Does crime

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh, chaos and killings happen in other areas, absolutely,

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but we're talking about what we're seeing right now, which

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 1>continues to dominate the news. And I also believe you

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you've talked about this before, Lauren. I believe the media

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>has a role in this, right, Um, I believe, uh.

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And this is just you know, being a member of

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the media. I think that we have a responsibility to

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>do a better job. We looked at the Shavin murder

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>um as the murder of George Floyd and the Chauvin

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>murder trial as if Derek Chauvin was, you know, somehow

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the only one to be convicted of killing someone, you know,

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the the the officer who killed the KWA McDaniel is

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>sitting in prison right now, and we should have said

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>that what we need to do. Media is recognized that

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 1>we need to be reporting on all of these stories.

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>So that because I felt like so much weight was

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>put on this and Lauren, had this trial not ended

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the way we all thought it should have, I think

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the city would have actually erupted, you know. And I

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>think that because so many felt as though, um, nothing

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>has been done or uh that uh finally and and

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>flame touched on this, I think that we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>do a better job of asking more of our officers.

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>We have to do a better job of asking more

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>of those who employed them to have them properly trained.

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>There has to be something other than every interaction with

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>an officer ending with the loss of life, particularly those

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 1>of color. Period. It just it just can't be the norm. Well,

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>my thing is, I think training is a component, yes,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>but I think at this point in time, accountability is

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>more important because I don't think and this is my

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this is my opinion. I don't think that when police

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>officers go into training, you have these people saying I'm

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>training you to kill black people. I don't think that's

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the narrative. I think that subliminally, yes, once you are

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>integrated into the force and you go on your right

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>along and you're getting you know, trained from other cops

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>or whoever your partner, maybe I think, you know, kind

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of those things erupt. But I think at this point

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>accountability has to be more so at the forefront than

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the training, because cops aren't held accountable. You know, we've

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about qualified immunity, even to the point where Amber

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Geiger is trying to appeal and overturn her conviction. This

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>week of um Gene botham that she got these tenures,

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that you know, it was unjustined, it was unfair

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>because you know, she was having a bad day. So

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>accountability and qualified immunity at this point are going hand

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.479
<v Speaker 1>in hand. For me, it supersedes the training because unless

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>those two elements are actually addressed, the training is kind

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>of null and void. You can train someone to be

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a great officer, but honestly, if they're racist, you know,

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like Flame has said, you got crazy ability going into

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>these urban communities not knowing how to de escalate situations

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>because they're just scared all of a sudden, you know,

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>by their circumstances. It's not gonna work. It's just not.

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's more so what I want to see. And

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that go ahead. No, we talked about we're

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about these incidents. Were literally just talking about President Biden.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I wonder too, how much this has played into his

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>um because there's been no focus. Everything has been focused

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>on so many other things that he's been able to

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of I think, you know, in many ways, they

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>believe beneath the radar, you know, because there had the

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>shop and trial literally has dominated everything we've been thinking about.

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>And black people are still moving and operating in a

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>space of fear, right, so we don't have time to

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>sit there watching everything that Joe Biden is doing. If

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>we've got to worry about air fresheners hanging from our

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>rear view mirror, if we have to worry about, uh,

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, a warrant being served and and and it escalating,

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you know that we call the police because someone has

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>come to our house with a knife to attack us,

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and then we end up being the one shot. There's

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>just so much happening constantly that I feel like so

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>many African Americans just on un alert, or people of

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>color are just un alert, uh the entire time, that

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>they just can't relax if they just don't have an

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to relax, you know. Yeah, I don't know if

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that's ever going to change, honestly, unless something drastic happens,

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a bill or new policy change. I don't

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>think that black folks in America are ever going to

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>not be on edge, especially in areas where there's rural communities.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even here in Los Angeles we just had

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>an officer involved shooting where they're saying that, you know,

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the full story, but an officer police

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>officer ran down a car and then ended up running

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>over somebody in Los Angeles, and we're one of the

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>most liberal cities here, so and I don't know the

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>full story. So guys don't quote me on everything because

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>we it's not a topic. But I'm just saying across

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the board from if you want to talk about Blue

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>states and Red states policing and you know, officer involved

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>shootings and police brutality, it's it's across the board at

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>this point because it's it's happening too often. Like I said,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of waking up and hearing about another case.

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>We can segue this into Andrew Brown, Um of what

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>just happened today. I just saw that the officers refused

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>to release the body cam footage and now all of

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a sudden they did. They let the family view it,

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's only twenty seconds of what happened. So this

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>is what we talked about pulling people accountable. So Nick,

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want to break down this story to please, yeah,

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about North Carolina. Sheriff says that he wants

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to body camp frontage of Andrew Brown Junior's fatal shooting

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to become public, but he was being over he was

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>being overstepped by higher agencies. He's followed a motion um

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to have that video really Brown affording to euro black

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>man with shot and killed Wednesday by sheriff's deputy as

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>they tried to serve him with an arrest warrant. Meantime,

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>body camera footage of definite shooting um Um has been released,

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>so now people are having a chance to actually see

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that learned. I think this is something that definitely has

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>become a residual effect of the shop and trial. I

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>genuinely believe that the reason so many with Makaya here

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>are pushing to release videos because I think they understand

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that the best disinfectant in sunllite, right whatever, let us

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>see this video. I think that's the reason why we

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>saw the video so quickly with Dante. I think that's

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the reason why we're seeing this video so quickly with Makaya.

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I think this is the reason why we're seeing so

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>this video so quickly with Mr Brown um And he's

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>noticed how they released that audio um and and the

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>video of this other shooting, yet another shooting of where

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the officer gave the guy a ride home before coming

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>back later that day, and I think that was Isaiah Brown. Well,

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't, but I don't think that it's fully transparent.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't so. And I say that because even with

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the you know, trial of Derek Chauvin, there was other

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>bodycam footage that we never saw until the prosecution actually

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>brought it as you know, an exhibit of evidence. So

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>they say that they're releasing this body camera footage, but I'm,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, I'm noticing there's always another angle or

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>another video that's actually not being shown. And even in

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the case of Andrew Brown, this bodycam footage that was released,

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>it was only twenty seconds. That incident was definitely longer

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>than twenty seconds. So where's the rest of the video?

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And why is it that you guys don't want to

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>show it? Is a doctor? What is it? And that

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>only adds to the distrust that black folks in the

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 1>community have, where I'm just gonna say people of color too,

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>because you know, we just had Adam Tolato who was

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>murdered by the police in Chicago. People of color in general.

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>That's why there's a lack of trust within um US

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>in the police officers, because when these officers involved shootings happened.

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>We don't get the full story, and it seems like

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>we never get the full story unless we're able to

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>get to the point of a trial where charges are brought.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.479
<v Speaker 1>And nine times out of ten, that's not what happens. So, Lord,

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>aren't we passed the point where? Shouldn't we be passed

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the point? Why aren't we passed the point where in

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>order to get this justice or some type of recognition,

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it takes UH people marching in the streets, you know. Why?

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Why isn't it just part of the process that these

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>things one aren't happening and to when they do. It

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>should not take communities coming together to march in the

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>street in order to fight for their share of justice,

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.479
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think that that has to change,

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>which may begin with one of the other topics that

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you brought up, UH to talk about today with the

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>d O J. Yeah, honestly, nick Um, I'm tired of

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>seeing protests. I'm tired of seeing the signs. I'm tired.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm I woke up like my heart was just so

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>heavy today and it's unfortunate that we continually have to protest,

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and I I'm reaching to a point where we might

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have to shift. Everybody was mad that Colin Kaepernick was kneeling.

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was black balled from the NFL for that,

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But wouldn't you rather us kneel at this point than

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>have to have all of the outrage that we have.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what has to happen, and I don't

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>never want to resort to violence, but it's almost at

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>a point where we have to start doing unto them

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>as they do unto us, to maybe that we see

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a wake up call. Chris Cuomo said that, you know,

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>cops are gonna have to start killing white kids in

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>order for us to actually have any type of new

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>police reform in any aspect. And honestly, day by day,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm really starting to believe that because black bodies just

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>don't matter at this point. They're just proving to us

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>more and more that they don't care about these black bodies,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>especially kids are getting murdered. Now, Like, how do you

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>have a sixty year old girl that's robbed of her

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>life and then you try to poke at her and

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>deny her of her childhood innocence. She's a child, so

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to treat her as if she's anything such just adds

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to the ultimate problem that we see every day that

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>they just don't care. So I don't know, you know,

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the claim and that we were first talking about this

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>story because one of the you know things that we're

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>reading young woman killed young woman. I said, you know

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that young woman was She's like Nick, she's a girl.

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>She was not a woman. She was a girl and

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 1>had her childhood innocence robbed. That's just how I feel.

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if marching is going to be

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 1>good enough anymore. It may have to be something else

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>that we have to do. So oh, and I think

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>justice should be equitable across the board. That's ridiculous. But

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I also say this when you're just talking about how

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the Chris Cuomo's comment, it also reminded me of something,

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you know similar I've talked about military service. I believe

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that until everyone has skin in the game, people won't

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate those who have served. I really do. And I

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.879
<v Speaker 1>think that until every politician's child has to serve um,

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that you will be much more circumspect in

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>decisions to send young men and women off to Afghanistan, Iraq,

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>second and third tours of duty. I think unless everyone

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>has skin in the game, people are not invested. I

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 1>think everyone has to have a skin in the game.

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>And education, everyone has has skin in the game. In housing,

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone has to have skin in the game. And healthcare.

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Until we're all in it together, it can be a

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>some versus others game. It can be less and more.

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think that unfortunately, there are appearance of a

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>different hue who don't find their children in these situations,

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and because they don't, they're having a harder time aligning

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 1>with those of us who UM often find ourselves UM

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>in these confrontations with police that don't end UM in

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a positive result, just as simple. And I think that

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>people need to understand, and I think there are people

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>who have um empathy, but I think they have a

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>hard time truly aligning and recognizing because I think they

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>do the But four, well, if you had just you know,

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I've seen Lauren, and you know she talks back a

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit, so I'm sure she mouthed offted that officer.

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Why couldn't she just or you know, Nick is kind

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of big and he is kind of dark. Why didn't

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>he shrinked himself and why didn't he say yes, sir?

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>And I say this to you, Lauren. I think I

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>told flame this. I told you this. The story that

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>bothered me the most in the last two months was

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>definitely that lieutenant who I felt like I did everything right.

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I saw myself and him. I would have yes, sir, Mr.

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>He did everything but tap dance, and it still wasn't

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:34.720
<v Speaker 1>good enough. I'm gonna open it up to the flame ets.

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I know somebody that wants to come in here, specifically

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>because she's been throwing flames up this entire time. Hey,

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>miss Jess, how are you just hied me? I've been

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>waiting on y'all to bring me at home, but I

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>only got one minute. I'm on, I'm on borrow. Here's

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing, though, you know, because I know people have

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a blanket statement to have certain feelings about um people

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>of a different hue, which my husband is of a

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 1>lighter hue. UM, not all, not all people are bad people,

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and not all people UM of a certain job are

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>bad people. Because yes, you do come across bad people,

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>because I've seen it. Some military people are not as

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>nice as others. I've experienced that. But I tend to

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>as a civilian and as a mother, I've tend to

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>tell you know, like, hey, you know what, I don't

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that because my daughter serves and I'm also civilian.

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't be you know, that's not how you should act.

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But that's military law enforcement officer. How do you tell them, hey,

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what, your attitude is wrong or you know

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>what you need to you know, readjust how you're thinking,

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.919
<v Speaker 1>because that is coming across badly. It's different. It's hard

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.479
<v Speaker 1>to address that. So when they you know, and that's

0:39:56.480 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>a problem. So there's systemic problems within the structure of

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the police department, but there's also problems within a person's

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>personality that they're not fit to do that job. Period.

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Some people are just racist, period, and she's right they are,

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and then those are the people we need to weed out.

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>And when people use the buzzword defund defund, I go, okay,

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you're overly sensitive to that. Okay, how about restructure. Organizations

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>go through restructure all the time. You know, you know that,

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>all of us know that because we've been through it

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>with our jobs. There's always a restructuring of some form

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>or another. If they're laying off people or they're investing,

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it's always a restructuring of some port. So let's restructure them,

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>then reallocate funds and restructure the the system. Period. Absolutely no,

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you. So, um, I do want to bring in

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it one more framement before we go into our other topics. UM,

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try and get somebody new. We'll see how

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>this works though, And while we try to bring her on,

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just touched on something playing We've talked

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>about this one talked about language, language matters. Restructuring is

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a reform is that, you know, what do we do?

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>But we what we recognize that what we can do

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>is agree on a common set of factors that policing

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>in its current form needs to change. Period. How we

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 1>do that, what we do I think should be a

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>topic of debating. I think that people should have an

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to decide how they want their communities police, particularly

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.879
<v Speaker 1>those who seem to be the ones who are most

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>often victimized or finding themselves on the wrong side of

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>interactions with police. Yeah, I'm like I said, I'm just

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>very uh, I'm very tired at this point. I just

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like in a lot of ways, Yes, you know,

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>miss just touched on um a lot of important topics,

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>But I just feel it at this point in time, UM,

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>we can't keep doing the same thing that we've been

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>doing because it's just proven that it's not act So

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.799
<v Speaker 1>we've got to do something different. You guys were also

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about how um, you know Garland, our attorney to

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Geral is investing helpening investigation into Louisiana Police department on

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the premise of Brianna Taylor's murder. The Justice Department is

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 1>opening a sweeping probe into policing in Louisville, Kentucky. Excuse me, Louisville,

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky UM over the March Brianna Taylor, who was shot

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to death by police during a raid at her home.

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Attorney General America Garland announced this on Monday. UM Garland

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 1>also announced an investigation into the tactics of the police

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in Minneapolis following the death of George Floyd. So this

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>ties into what we're talking about. It seems as though

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department also recognizes that, hey, we have a

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>problem with policing, and this was part of a promise

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that a President Biden and Vice President Harris made that

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 1>they would look into this. That there were communities who

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>are being disproported, disproportionately affected and that they are taking

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>a lead on that. Hey, yes, indeed, So Hi George,

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>how are you, Hey, how are you today? I'm good?

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So let us know your thoughts on some of this topic,

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>some of our topics that were discussing here today. I'm

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting here and i gotta be honest with you. I've

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>gotten very emotional during this because, um, you know, being

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a black man, Nick, you know, Um, we go through

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>it anyway, you know, And I hear all the stuff

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>about the system, and you know, I'm just I'm fed up.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>But I also understand that if you don't attack the

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>system and try to work through the system, nothing's gonna

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>get done, you know. So, I mean the only thing

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I could think is that we need to protest. Now.

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>We need to find an effective way to protest. Adding

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 1>some kind of overseer for the overseers, okay. I mean

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>what I'm thinking is maybe somebody and this is just

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:42.439
<v Speaker 1>in my head, uh, that responds the calls right along

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>with the police. But they're there to monitor, uh, what

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>the police are doing, and also act as a liaison

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>when they need to be, to help calm down a

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>potential victim or a suspect so that they don't die,

0:43:56.120 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, something that works. You know, maybe that's not

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the answer, but we have to start somewhere. Maybe somebody

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>to monitor the cams, that's the outside entity from the

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>police they're monitoring. Those body camps have to be on.

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>It needs to be the law that they're on, and

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>they get monitored by an agency that's not tainted by

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the system. Well, I will say, um, I know, Nick

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of just gave an overview of what Mary Garland's

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>doing in terms of investigating, um, at least the Louisville

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Police Department, and he's also doing a similar investigation in

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Minneapolis due to you know, George Floyd being murdered. So

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>my hope is at least this is maybe one of

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>the many steps that needs to happen to actually hold

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>police departments accountable. Because I know, um, during at least

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:45.240
<v Speaker 1>President Barack Obama's presidency, he actually followed up with different

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>police departments to get bodycam footage. Obviously, when Trump came

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>into office, all of that subsided. Um. But hopefully we

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>can actually start getting back into holding police, um, you know,

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>police departments accountable, and I think hopefully that'll start to

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>set the norm of them holding each other accountable because

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we said this. You know, nobody wants

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to be labeled a racist. You know, in this day

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and age, nobody wants to be labeled as you know,

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.720
<v Speaker 1>oh you shot a child, you know, you're whatever that entails.

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that's any narrative that anybody wants

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>at this point in time. So hopefully Lauren and I'm

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you this too. You know, black folks are

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>really good at holding each other accountable, Like we know

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>right from wrong playements, talking about this before too. Now,

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>if something is wrong, we have no problem saying no, brother,

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you were wrong, you know, right right, because we we

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>often I think more than any of them. We often

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>feel as though we carried the partner with everyone else. Hi, George, George,

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>take your okay, So let's go to North Carolina. Y'all.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Do know that they are doctor and they they are

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>being surgeons right now with those videos. You know, they

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>all turned those videos. That's why they didn't release it immediately,

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>because when it's something like that, I mean that you

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>immediately release it to prove your innocence. They're not trying

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to prove the innocence. They're trying to have the guilt. Well,

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.720
<v Speaker 1>only twenty seconds of the body cam footage was released.

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>It's twenty seconds too from last night. Uh, it's bullshit.

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me say what I got to say. It's bullshit.

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I know that they're doing all this

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and I said, they're trying to get team and this

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>will not stop. Marching ain't work since the seventies, all

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>this lave podcasts and we were mad and we're stomping

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>at hump. It's not going to change anything. When it's

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.359
<v Speaker 1>when the color of the fruit that Billie Holiday sang

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>about on the tree, the strange fruit changes to a

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>different color than it'll start. I don't know what y'all

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 1>need to how y'all need to receive that. But I

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean when I say it. But y'all

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>need to understand that. How you I'm not promoting violence,

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but bitch, we gotta do what works for us, because

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm let me tell you something. They ain't tired. Are

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>we tired? Because they ain't tired. I think we need

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the black We need some form of the same energy

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the Black Panthers have back because you talk about they're

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>changing too many laws. George Monty we're not gonna be

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 1>able to have a black panther experience because we haven't

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:02.359
<v Speaker 1>even got past the Lynching Act. They just passed. They

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Act for the Asian Asian hate, and we've been fighting

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>with black hate for years and you ain't nothing past.

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Understand me. The agenda is when they're done with us,

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they're going to the next group. They're just starting on

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the next route because they're getting rid of us fast enough. Understand,

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody is going to have to take a stand and

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:24.320
<v Speaker 1>stand up. I don't know what the outcome will be,

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>but stay ready, that's what he said. Stay ready. I

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>do have my I do have my hand jewlry. I

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've got yours, but get your hand jewelry.

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I ain't come about way. No. I think that is

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>something though, that we should acknowledge that the m M

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>bill Anti lynching uh M until anti lynching Bill has

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>still not passed, and it's been over two hundred years.

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>And while any type of hate towards any race is

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>not acceptable, but in some ways, and we talked about

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.320
<v Speaker 1>this too in terms of you know, ally ship that

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it seems like, you know, Asian hate has become more

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>prevalent and it seems like more as being done on

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 1>that front, then what has been done for Black folks,

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.399
<v Speaker 1>because we've still been fighting this fight for so long.

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 1>So I definitely hear what you're saying. Go ahead, think

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>this Asian hate thing is a little overblown when you

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>consider said what we've gone through historically, and even if

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you talk to Asians right now, there they were upset,

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't like people were killing them dead in

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 1>the streets, you know what I'm saying. And they never

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>protested and they never rioted, but they got the abill passed.

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Understand me. Well, I'm gonna say this too though, if

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>we if we're really just going to talk about it.

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>In systemic racism, the Asian community is not viewed as

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>problematic for our society, meaning that and it goes back

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to even some of the turmoil that we have between

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the black community and the Asian community. The

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Asians are smart. They worked from nothing. They were able

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to you know, acclimate or I should say, assimilate into

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 1>society and actually be those that help enhance society. Black folks,

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, and we were lazy. Um, we're

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>not smart, We're problematic. Even in the Asian community. They

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have generational wealth. They don't have to suffer through the

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>same thing that we do because they take care of

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>one another. That's just how they are the wealth. A

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of their wealth came from exploiting the black communities,

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's very true. Absolutely, But I'm saying, let me

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>tell you where they are not looked upon as um

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a threat because we worked for free for two hundred years.

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 1>That is why they're upset we're not working over. I

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>want you to pay me for everything I fucking do

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and I mean that, and I'm not walking to the

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 1>podcast I need to be said. I'm messing with Sophia, y'all.

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>When they were getting free labor and Nassa could go

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to the slave courts to get his role out whenever

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 1>he felt like it, and the white woman in the

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>house could go and call Big Henry to come in

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and put it down on her and his pullout gay

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>wasn't what it was, and he told him that he

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>raped her and they cut his penis. All shit ain't changed.

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not about penis envy or any of that. I

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how you're walking around here talking about you hate.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Somebody called the color of that skin. That ship is

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:17.399
<v Speaker 1>learned behavior. They teach children to hate. You don't little

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>kid and see other little kids and know that they

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>look different from them. But you're my side, so you're

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>my friend until you do something that I don't like.

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 1>It ain't got nothing to do with you being a

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>different color of my skin. They need to erase all

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>these racist basses off the planet. And I'm telling you

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, until we started, we gotta be stop being

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>scared of the cancel culture. They're always have some flame

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get cancel. I ain't got started yet, so

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>cancel me now, because I ain't even got started yet.

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>You can't. We gotta stop being afraid to speak up.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Speak up, or they're gonna cancel me. We get so

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>uncustomed to making this money and so used to live

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in our lifestyles, and we become complacent that we stop fighting.

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna stop fighting. If I run for your feathers,

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>then I'm supposed to because you're a ruck of man.

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I have a black son. I'm a black man poor

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.359
<v Speaker 1>part of the day and a black woman the other part.

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be shocked because you are afraid

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of what I look like because of the color of

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't change this. I changed a whole lot of

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>other ship, but I can't change this. I cannot change this,

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.799
<v Speaker 1>neither do I want to. It is ummerving to think

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>that every time you pulled over about the police, your

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 1>heart is jumping out your chest, and then they put

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>your heart. They wan it on your heart and said,

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.479
<v Speaker 1>why your heart beat so fast? You're scared? Of course

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm terrified because am I gonna make it home?

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Because you stop me because I forgot to signal left turn?

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Am I gonna get home to my children? Because I'm

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a black man or black whatever? You see whatever? Because

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if they even see the sex.

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I think all they see is the black badge of black.

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I speed out every time I see a coffee behind

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 1>me and those lights go on, I speed die with

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>my family. I have a programmed into my phone now

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>because and I'm tired. I'm sorry, George. I't mean to

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:50.959
<v Speaker 1>cut you out because I only got a couple of minutes.

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of apologize that. I'm tired of. Okay, well,

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do better next time. I'm tired of forgiving.

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of taking your ship. When you talk crazy

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to me, I talk crazy back to you. If I

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 1>can only that once, but so can you. So on

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that note, George, I do want to say thank you

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:10.839
<v Speaker 1>so much for chiming in. UM. We're gonna keep Flame

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit longer because she's busy, but we

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you coming in UM and joining the conversation. So

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. By by Georgia, so Flame. Since

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>we got you for a couple more minutes, UM, I'm

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:26.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn it over to you to see if there's

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>any other specific topic you want to discuss. I want

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Georgia. I mean not Georgia, because I'm

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in Georgia. I want to talk about California and who

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 1>y'all voting for for governor. Okay, so let's take it.

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been recalled yet, so we don't even know

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that that's gonna happen. No, no, no, no, no, he anyway,

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:47.919
<v Speaker 1>that ain't what I'm talking about, Nick, I'm talking about

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:53.439
<v Speaker 1>this other so just to start, So let's let's start.

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>So there has been enough UM signatures for the on

0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the petition to recall Gavin Newsom. Let's start there, so

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that is a thing. Has he even officially recalled No,

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:06.280
<v Speaker 1>But there are enough people in California that are upset

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 1>with this man that now we have somebody like a

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin Jenner coming to say, oh, I'm going to run,

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>let's go to her, let's side and her source go ahead.

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>This is the same trans woman who they gave who

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the sv gave a courage award for wearing a fucking dress.

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>First of all, if you're gonna give a queen of

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 1>dress a ward for wearing a dress, at least like

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a bitch we Q dresses. That should have been me.

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I would Q dress. That's first. Secondly, courage for what?

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:36.280
<v Speaker 1>But come on and become a month and twenty minutes

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to say that you were staying with the LGBT community.

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 1>She has never done anything for the community. She did,

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 1>she had light on the community, but RuPaul has been

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that for years and that's on the on the gates,

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:49.400
<v Speaker 1>not on the trans girls. And she was supposed to

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>be a trans girl. That's second. Thirdly, she said she

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>was a Republican. She got right on Diane say and

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 1>when she came out to say, oh, I used to

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>dress up and women's clothes, they go to bart being

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a trendy for many many years. If you dressed up

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>in women's clothes, they go to a strange bar. Men

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>are hitting on you because you're a big old man.

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Win a dress when they think you're a big old

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>man and address they think you've got a big old

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 1>penis to match it. So all that she never had

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>sex with. The man was not one lad, not two lads,

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 1>but three lads right in front of American people. Then

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 1>she said she was a Republican. She lost me then

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>because ain't no GOP ever wants to do anything for

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the trans community. And I'm not talking about the gay community.

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I said the trans community. They are using this man

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a woman as a pawn to make a fool out

0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of because they can because the pimp Chris Jenner. I

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.280
<v Speaker 1>say that the pimp Chris Jenner then pushed this food

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>out there. Instead of Chris Caitlin Jenner running for office.

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.520
<v Speaker 1>She needs to stop running over white women and maliboy

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and killing them. Now. The family didn't got paid off

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and said that they still support her politics even though

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>she killed the auntie. Let me tell you something that

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>check cash and clear, because that Kardashian money is long.

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I said what I said. I would not vote for

0:54:59.840 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>h Case and Jenna because Kyln Jenner is not for

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the people or by other people. But she is about

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to be used by the Republican Party like a maniac

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.439
<v Speaker 1>they're about to use. I will vote for Gavin Neuson again.

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.560
<v Speaker 1>A he good looking be he got plenty of money.

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 1>And see Nancy Pelosi's nephew. And you know I love

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi. Okay, that's my piece. That's why I hate

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the same. Well, I'll just say this. I hope that

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 1>California as a whole has learned his lesson from our

0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:25.000
<v Speaker 1>previous movie stars turned governors that have not gone so well.

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I eat Ronald Reagan and fortunate or presidents exactly, so

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.279
<v Speaker 1>hopefully California learned his lesson. But um, like flame, yes,

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I will still continue to vote for Gavin Newson. I

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 1>understand that every governor has his issues, and he has

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>been caught in some controversy, especially around covid um, but

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:43.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm not ready to recall him by any by any means.

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>So Nick Goha chiming, Wait, let me let me get

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>because I got two minutes. Let me let me get

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>this point out, and here's the here's the disrespect that

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.879
<v Speaker 1>came from the media when when Kaylyn Jenner killed this woman.

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Because he rans over and kill this woman, I don't

0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 1>know if he's trying to put his lips take on

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>the affects a shout, know what the hell he was doing.

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 1>But when he ran over this woman and kill this

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 1>woman in the car accident, then he ready got some

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 1>breast in plans. Don't you know that the news made

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the breast implants bigger news, headline news over this woman

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:14.399
<v Speaker 1>dying because he killed her in the cards and then

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and then it just disappeared. Now, had that been somebody

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>black like myself who don't have his means or his

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 1>money or his reaching power that ran over white woman

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>while trying to put on my lips set, but that

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have nothing, all right now, I bet you that

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the cars wouldn't have fell in my place. I couldn't

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>wanna got some titties, It wouldn't matter. I could have

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.359
<v Speaker 1>wonna got titties and everything else, it wouldn't matter. I'm

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 1>telling you, there are two different Americas that we live in.

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Everybody is afraid to speak up about it because everybody's

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>worried about the counsel. Coach, you can't counsel me because

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I ain't got silted yet. I understanding, I ain't even

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>got signed on you yet. I'm telling it all. I'm

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:51.879
<v Speaker 1>telling that all. Come on. Well, the upside is uh,

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>since generous running California, as we all know, love their

0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>celebrities because many consider an short to negative be one

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 1>of your most successful governors. And the Hatner has also

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about the importance of recognizing that there are issues

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 1>that affect the trans community beyond it's about more than LGBTQ.

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Her exact words were, and we've heard some of this before,

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 1>that there are bigger issues to fight for that include

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>all people. The trans people are much more than the

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 1>letters of the alphabet. Well, baby, let me tell you something.

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>That man, that bitch is still in anyway because guests

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>who said that on the Breakfast Club in November of

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Flame Monroe, I said, they're not gonna see us until

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>we see us. And there's so many more issues for

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the trans community fight besides the pro nown or bathroom

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 1>right and that she want to steal my ship. I

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't vote for that nigga in my name boy, named

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>girl named cat or don't no, thank you. Let me

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 1>tell something and if y'all got any sense, you'll better

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>stay away from that Kardashian COUCHI because I'm gonna tell

0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you somebody now, Chris is the head of it. You

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>know she used to mess around with O. J. Simpson

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>back in the day. Let me tell you something that

0:57:57.680 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>is hainted. It makes black men cut a women white

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.400
<v Speaker 1>women's his and it may turn make white men turn

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>into white women. I E O J. I E. Caitlyn, Okay,

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm out. I'll teach you about and just to put

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a button on at the campaign to recall Gavin Newsom

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.760
<v Speaker 1>has not officially qualified for the ballot, but both sides

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>expected to. Elections officials are sifting through petitions submitted by

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>proponents to see if they contain the required one point

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>five million signatures of valid registered voters. They expect challenges,

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and proponents say they submitted about two point one million

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>signatures to make sure that they not only met, they

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 1>exceeded that required number. Yeah. I did see reports to

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that the Kardashian family is not formally endorsing Caitlyn Jenner,

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and they said that they're not going to formally endorse

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>any candidate, however, Um, Like I said, I just hope

0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>that California learned from its mistakes. Um. I would be

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>curious to see how this plays out. Though. If Caitlyn

0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Jenner gets one point five million signatures, Uh no, Lie,

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be a little baffled, I really am. So

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, uh, Lauren, it's a it's a

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>state that loves celebrity, so I can I can see

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it happening. And you know, California is easily the weirdest state, right,

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>great data. I lived there too many years, know you know.

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh And and I had a graduate advisor said, you know, Nick,

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it would be your best interest to leave California. You

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>need to go east. That's why I ended up going

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to a graduate school in Boston's like, you've got to

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 1>get out of California. I've become too. I was spending

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:34.960
<v Speaker 1>too much time with Larry Kramer and the others and

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>act up and all that. So I was I was

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>deep in the heart of all of it and realized

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that something needed to kind of shake up there. Um.

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But an election would likely be held in November. It

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 1>would consists of two questions shouldn't Newsond be recalled and

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>who should replace him? And Newsom cannot put his name

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 1>on the ballot to replace himself, so we will. We'll

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 1>see what happens. I definitely say this, there'll be a

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:01.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of money thrown into a You know that, don't you? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, exactly. Jen has got a lot of friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what happens. That I'm talking about the

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>ads you can expect to see on TV. Every other

1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:12.440
<v Speaker 1>commercial will be an ad. Every other commercial will be

1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:15.280
<v Speaker 1>an ad, uh for for the governor's race. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Carey is running. I remember again when I recall

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<v Speaker 1>of Davis Um that all the subvers came out, the

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<v Speaker 1>one who I forget, Gary Coleman ran h for governor,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary carry Angeline Lauren. You old enough to remember Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I am. So it's like all everybody. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the billboards everywhere, you know, like well, Mary Carrey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know so, Yes, it'll be interesting to see how this

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<v Speaker 1>all shakes out. Let's talk about Brett Kavanaugh because the

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<v Speaker 1>Newsday that came out today, Justice Kavanaugh ruled in a

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court six at three decision that children can be

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<v Speaker 1>sent to jail for life without the possibility of parole.

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<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld the sentence of life

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<v Speaker 1>without parole for juvenile offender and a six three decision

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<v Speaker 1>rejecting arguments as such sentences should have additional limits. Justice

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<v Speaker 1>Kavanaugh penned the decision for his conservative colleagues, holding that

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<v Speaker 1>quote a sentence or will not have to make a

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<v Speaker 1>separate finding that the juvenile offender was incapable of being rehabilitated.

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<v Speaker 1>So it used to be that you had to say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this person can't be rehabilitated. He's like, now,

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to do that. We can go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>sentence the a none but a number. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say that the fact that Brett Kavanaugh was leading this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is an absolute joke, considering the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>all of his mistakes and past transgressions that he's had

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<v Speaker 1>that even you know, came to light regarding him being remember,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that happened nor because we never we never

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<v Speaker 1>got the opportunity to have an official investigation that they

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<v Speaker 1>never know allowed that to go forward. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely appalling that this man, of all people on the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court is saying this, and to say that children

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<v Speaker 1>can't be redeemable, And isn't it interesting too on the

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<v Speaker 1>heels of Trump exiting the White House. A story that

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't really been covered is the fact that Mitch McConnell

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<v Speaker 1>took these past four years to line all the circuit courts,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these racist white judges with these lifetime appointments,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, we're gonna be start to

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<v Speaker 1>see all of these children who are people of color

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<v Speaker 1>going to jail for life sentences. This has all been

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<v Speaker 1>very strategic and what the so called justice system has

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<v Speaker 1>been doing. So the fact that Mitch started it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump let uh laid out the red carpet for this

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. And now you have Brett Kavanaugh, who was

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<v Speaker 1>also another Trump pick kiss saying all of these kids

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<v Speaker 1>can go to jail for lifetime appointments. I'm appalled. I

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<v Speaker 1>really am, Paul. I think I'm gonna say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I have asked this question I wish for and

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<v Speaker 1>we're here before now because I I do believe children

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<v Speaker 1>are redeemable, but I understand where they are because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we actually just talked about those the fourteen and six

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<v Speaker 1>year old in d C who carjacked that God, should

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<v Speaker 1>they be thrown in jail for life or be given

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty? You know? And I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there's space to save some people. I believe there's possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I understand people like, no, they take a life

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<v Speaker 1>where they do this, they need to be locked weight

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<v Speaker 1>throwing key Burnham, I get it. Like there are people

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<v Speaker 1>who feel that way about Kyle Rittenhouse. I'm like, he's seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to believe he's not. The thing is, don't

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's more to it though. It's not just about

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<v Speaker 1>kids being redeemable, because yes, you obviously have kids making

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<v Speaker 1>you know, may commit some crime or whatever. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>so that's I think that's being a kid. I think

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<v Speaker 1>kids do, you make mistakes. But the more the the

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<v Speaker 1>important part of this that I don't want us to

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<v Speaker 1>miss is the fact that let's say a kid does

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<v Speaker 1>get arrested. Because we talked about the six year old

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<v Speaker 1>boy who picked a tool up on his way to

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<v Speaker 1>school and then ended up having a whole trial. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that these we're gonna have kids who are people

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<v Speaker 1>of color being arrested, and then you have parents who

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford to provide them with attorneys or provide them

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<v Speaker 1>with actual proper legal counsel. So they're gonna be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in jail anyway, not even being able to get their

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<v Speaker 1>day in court. They're gonna be in there for life anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's the sad part about this. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that you do get the opportunity to go to

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<v Speaker 1>court and plead your case. You can't provide proper legal

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<v Speaker 1>counsel for yourself, so you're gonna end up getting the

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<v Speaker 1>life appointments for petty crimes or even in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where you're not guilty, you might have just been in

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong place at the wrong time. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>just setting us up to continue to pour more money

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<v Speaker 1>into the private privn the private prison system, because every

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<v Speaker 1>time a bed is filled with a body, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else is getting a paycheck. So this is all

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<v Speaker 1>part of a greater systemic cycle of racism that is

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<v Speaker 1>just getting bigger and bigger by the day. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>that's what this really is in full in full view,

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<v Speaker 1>so that way we're not missing anything. This was a ploy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's finally we're seeing it play out in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how this um, how sweeping this decision

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<v Speaker 1>affects people that I think that they're not always considering

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think that they I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea, but I don't think they considered the

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle rittenhouses of the world when they wrote this sweeping decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, like you're saying, I think that it

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<v Speaker 1>may have been focused primarily on UH communities that are

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<v Speaker 1>most oftenly disproportionately affected by the criminal justice system. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we know that, like you said, Lauren, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just people who do not get the representation that they deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>Who Ben Trump can come to everyone's home, He just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, now mind you, the minute heaven forbid I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gunned down or I'm pleased connect him with my mother. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we can, you know, so that at least Mr Zetti

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<v Speaker 1>can get a check or two, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and do all right, you know, it's but

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things where everyone should not have

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<v Speaker 1>to pine for Ben Crump, nor should everyone have to

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<v Speaker 1>need him. But unfortunately, I think that the simple truth is, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>should one find oneself in the confrontation with law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>that does not end positively. All one can do is

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<v Speaker 1>to hope to have that case um visibly displayed and

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<v Speaker 1>have some type of civil justice be the be the

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<v Speaker 1>the punitive effect landing on those who were the perpetrators. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, and I want to clarify to I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not of the I don't think kids can be redeemable.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's definitely a thing. I as to

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<v Speaker 1>what I said, I don't think Written is redeemable because

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<v Speaker 1>he's just he's too far gone at this point. But

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<v Speaker 1>my point in saying all of this is it's past

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<v Speaker 1>kids paying redeemable. There's a greater um subliminal issue here

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<v Speaker 1>than just kids being redeemable. It's more, it's more to

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<v Speaker 1>that than at this point based on what this Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court decision was led by Brett Kavanaugh. So I'm totally

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I'm not comfortable with children being tried as adults.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind. I don't believe a seventeen year old mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe a seventeen year old mind is fully developed. Yeah, okay, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he should be tried. I'm sorry that was

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<v Speaker 1>when in in situations that said I'm sorry in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry we part ways on that he's seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally drove around state lines to shoot people. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that no, no, not bring guns across state line.

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<v Speaker 1>He shot people too though, Yeah, and get water and

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<v Speaker 1>in assistance. But let's let's I'm the one to just

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<v Speaker 1>shout that guy, can I have some water you? Okay? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because similarly, Nick is Dylan Roof Redeemable Dylan, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's in his late twenties, so he was now he

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty though when it happened, though, right, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, yeah, okay, we'll shoot Congredden House knew better too.

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<v Speaker 1>That was intentional. Thank you so much for joining the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't try to get anybody to change in

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<v Speaker 1>their mind. We just simply trying to get you to

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<v Speaker 1>use your mind, because, as Flame will say, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have a mind in order to be able to use it.

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<v Speaker 1>In her opinion, a lot of people don't so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>But as always, you know, you can find Flame on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram at Monroe Flame or um. On Facebook, she is

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Flame Monroe Parker. On Twitter, she is Flame Monroe Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can everybody find you? Add Nick Smith News on

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<v Speaker 1>all social media platforms, Yes indeed, and I am Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>Armandi h on Instagram as well as Lauren Hogan on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and don't crucify me. I know haven't uploaded a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of episodes, but as y'all heard, we've all been

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<v Speaker 1>very busy, but I'm gonna play catch up this week

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Um So, as always, thank you guys so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us today at Laugh and Learn. We

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