1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: And you're here. Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: to Ghost Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained ends here. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: They invite you to enjoy all our shows we have 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: on this network, and right now, let's start with Chase 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: to Coast AM employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: On each opp episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: know that our loved ones have survived physical death and 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Get 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: ready for some fireworks today. As my country, the United 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: States of America, is soon to turn two hundred and 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: fifty years old. I thought today we could discover what 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: ultimate independences. On today's episode, we're not just celebrating the 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: freedom that we have living in our own countries, but 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: we're exploring the boundless liberty of your very own soul. 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: So get ready for some truly astounding stories like did 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: you know that one of America's most iconic presidents sought 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: comfort from mediums in the White House? Yep, it's true 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: after a profound personal loss. You'll hear about his chilling premonition, 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: a dream that was so vivid it actually revealed his 29 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: own destiny. And did you know about President George Washington? 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: He had a powerful spiritual vision at Valley Forge that 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: shaped the course of a nation. You'll discover how this 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: profound experience mirrored a quest for freedom far beyond the 33 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: physical battlefield. Will also dive into the remarkable insight of 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: a legendary general whose view on past lives sounds straight 35 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: out of the afterlife itself. Plus, here incredible first hand 36 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: accounts from American soldiers and veterans who faced death head 37 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: on and in their near death experiences found profound moments 38 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: of peace, universal love, and undeniable freedom on the other side. 39 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Their stories offer powerful evidence that our consciousness definitely continues 40 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: no matter what the circumstances. So don't miss this special 41 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: patriotic episode of Shades of the Afterlife. And it's designed 42 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: to bring all of us ultimate freedom, and that is 43 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: the freedom from fear. But before we dive in, I 44 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: want to share some words from your fellow listeners. Back 45 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: on episode two hundred and forty two, my guest was 46 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: Karen McClain, who received a whole bunch of signs from 47 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: her brother in spirit. There was one that I had 48 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: never heard of either did listener Sergio. And that is 49 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: when there is no sign of water or moisture or 50 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: condensation anywhere, you get a couple of random rain drops 51 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: that fall on your arm. And this was a sign 52 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: Karen McClain felt was from her loved one. Sergio from 53 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: Florida says, today, to my astonishment, I experienced something similar 54 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: while waiting in the dentist's chair. I closed my eyes 55 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: to center myself and try to relax. Suddenly, two drops 56 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: of water landed gently on my forearm. When I opened 57 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: my eyes, I saw them clearly, two distinct drops, with 58 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: no visible source above me, none at all. In that moment, 59 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: I recalled your podcast and smiled, knowing that a spirit 60 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: had taken inspiration from your show to send me a 61 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: sign that everything was going to be okay. I'm deeply 62 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: grateful for you and the work you do, Sandra. Shades 63 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: of the Afterlife isn't just loved in this world, it's 64 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: cherished in the next. Thanks Sergio. And when listener Ricky 65 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: heard episode two hundred and forty with Bo Williams, whose 66 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: soulmate took herself to the afterlife, he felt compelled to 67 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: share his method to connect with his wife Katka, and 68 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: has been communicating with her for two years using these 69 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: two distinct methods. One, he recommends we download what's called 70 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: EVP Maker two point one and Audacity three point one 71 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: point three for free on our computers and find instructions 72 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: from doctor Sherry Pearl. In fact, I talk about EVP 73 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: and recording them and you can even meet doctor Sherry Pearl. 74 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: Just go back to episodes fifteen seventy one and one 75 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: four seven. But Ricky says his wife Ketaka speaks both 76 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: Spanish and English, and he uses a forty second pre 77 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: recorded message with her voice speaking Spanish as the background 78 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: for this EVP Maker and Keteka to rearrange the sounds 79 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: into words. And now what's interesting is Keteka spoke Spanish 80 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: in this forty second recording. Yet Ricky says all the 81 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: nearly four thousand recorded messages come through in English. He says, 82 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: with the same cuteness and accent she had when physically 83 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: on our side. He says. The second method includes a 84 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: small bulletin board which he put two cards, notepaper size. 85 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: One says no and the other says yes. He'll use 86 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: his cell phone and record asking a question. While the 87 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: camera points at these yes and no cards. He says, 88 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: there are orbs of light when he plays back the 89 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: video that answer his yes no questions. He said, recently, 90 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: I said, my darling, sweetheart, I know I talked too much, 91 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: and in this case, a light orb hovered over yes. 92 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: He said. We have over one thousand video recorded answers 93 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: and they are most definitely amazing light orbs definitely not dust. 94 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: He calls this method light orb interactive or light orb communication. 95 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: He says, Sandra, feel free to share this. I'm uncomfort 96 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: doing interviews. Of course, our daughter and I are still 97 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: struggling with having lost mom and wife. Keteka was taken 98 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: from us for reasons that still seem unbelievable, as she 99 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: was very healthy. Although we do hear from Ketteka every day, 100 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: but not being able to hug each other like we 101 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: always did is the most difficult of all. Ricky, Well, 102 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: thank you, Ricky for sharing two forms of communication that 103 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: you use that I know will make a difference with others. 104 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: On the fourth of July here in America, we celebrate 105 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: the birth of a nation forged in the fires of liberty, 106 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: a day filled with parades and fireworks and celebrating these 107 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: brave souls who fought for our freedom. We think of 108 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: the pursuit of happiness and the idea that all human 109 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: beings are created equal. It's a powerful and moving day 110 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: and a testament to our desire to be free. But 111 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: as we honor this spirit of freedom, I want us 112 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: each to expand our vision even further. What about the 113 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: ultimate independence, the freedom of our very own souls. Now, 114 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: this is a concept that goes far beyond any nation, 115 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: any border, or any historical moment. While the fourth of 116 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: July is an American holiday, this universal idea of true 117 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: liberation and boundless freedom speaks to everyone. All souls everywhere 118 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: seek a profound kind of independence, freedom from fear, from 119 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: the perceived limitations of this physical world we live in, 120 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: and the freedom from the illusion of separation that always 121 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: makes us feel isolated and alone and different even when 122 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: we're in a crowd. This ultimate freedom is I believe, 123 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: the very essence of who we are and a core 124 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: truth deep within our spirit. It's the grand, timeless journey 125 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: from earthly confinement, the constraints of our physical bodies, the 126 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: anxieties in our minds, the sorrows of our hearts, the 127 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: limitations of human perception, to this boundless spiritual existence, an 128 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: exciting realm of pure potential, limitless connection, and profound peace. 129 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: For many, the thought of death can feel like confinement, 130 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: the ultimate loss of freedom, that our life is extinguished 131 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: and so are the relationships we have, like it's our 132 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: final curtain. It's natural that we have anxiety about the unknown, 133 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: and of course we can have regrets about what was 134 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: said or unsaid, and coming to the end of our 135 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: life really can seem like it is a finality. But 136 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: of course, if you've listened long enough. My personal journey 137 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: into the understanding of the afterlife, which of course began 138 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: when I was a huge skeptic has given me so 139 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: much power and a sense of independence that helps me 140 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: live more powerfully right now. I think when we can 141 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: really embrace the reality of physical deaths and that our 142 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: life continues on into joy and reconnections and explorations, it 143 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: gives more purpose to our life right now. So today 144 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: this episode is dedicated to exploring that profound, multi layered freedom, 145 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: from the historical pursuit of a nation's liberty to the 146 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: eternal liberation of our spirits, showing how those two are 147 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: deeply intertwined. We'll take a look back in history. You'll 148 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: hear some stories you've never heard before. During a period 149 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: of immense change, incredible bravery and bold vision that literally 150 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: reshaped our world. Did America's founding fathers and mothers who 151 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: fought so valiently for our earthly freedoms, those who penned 152 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: declarations of independence that changed the course of history, did 153 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: they also ponder the freedom of the soul? You might 154 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: truly be surprised by what some of them believed about 155 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: life beyond death and covering their personal philosophies and its 156 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: President Abraham Lincoln and his personal search after the death 157 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: of his son that he communicated with mediums. I'll tell 158 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: you that full story in our next segment together. But first, 159 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: did you know that there's an account of an Iraq 160 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: war veteran who survived a terrifying rocket blast during combat. 161 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: In that scary moment, as chaos erupted all around him, 162 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: he felt himself instantly leave his body, rising above the scene. 163 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: Now he wasn't afraid. Instead, he found himself moving through 164 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,239 Speaker 2: a dark corridor that quickly opened into an incredibly beautiful 165 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: white light. This light was unlike anything he had ever known. 166 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: He said, it was so full of peace and this 167 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: incredible loving energy. All of his worries simply vanished. He said, 168 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: he had no concern about my life, no worries. He 169 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: even recounted speaking with two light beings in this euphoric state. 170 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: One was his beloved grandfather, who lovingly promised to show 171 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: him around this new, magnificent world. The other, however, conveyed 172 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: a gentle but firm message that his journey wasn't complete 173 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: and that he needed to go back. This powerful near 174 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: death experience transformed his understanding of life, death, and the 175 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: true meaning of peace and its testament to how even 176 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: in the face of extreme physical danger, our souls can 177 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: experience liberation and profound connection, free from fear and the 178 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: constraints of the material world. We'll be back looking at 179 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: some of America's presidents and the afterlife. You're listening to 180 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: a very patriotic Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 181 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back 182 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Before the break, 183 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: we began to ponder whether the great minds who founded America, 184 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: these figures synonymous with the pursuit of freedom, also turned 185 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: their thoughts to the freedom of the soul after physical death. 186 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: The answer is a resounding yes, and in fascinating and 187 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: often poignant ways that deeply resonate with our discussions here 188 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: on Shades of the Afterlife. Let's begin with a very 189 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: well known and loved American president, a man who steered 190 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: the nation through its most perilous storm. His name Abraham Lincoln. 191 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: Beyond his monumental political achievements and his height, Lincoln's personal 192 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: life was marked by profound tragedy, none more devastating than 193 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: the death of his beloved eleven year old son Willie 194 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: in eighteen sixty two. This profound loss was not just 195 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: a private sorrow. It impacted the nation's leader during its 196 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: most trying time, which was the Civil War. This loss 197 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: utterly shattered his wife, her name Mary Todd Lincoln, who 198 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: was consumed by such a dark and deep grief that 199 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: transcended traditional comforts and defied any easy consolation. Of course, 200 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: we know grief. No, there's no easy consolation. In her 201 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: profound sorrow, she sought comfort and reassurance that Willie still 202 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: existed and that their bond remained unbroken. This happened during 203 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: the spirit movement of the era. It's a documented historical 204 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: fact that Mary Todd Lincoln frequently utilized mediums, and surprisingly 205 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: written accounts tell us that seances were even held within 206 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: the very walls of the White House itself, with prominent 207 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: mediums of that time such as Neddie Colburn Maynard participating. 208 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: These gatherings at the highest seat of American power underscore 209 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: the deep human need we each have to connect with 210 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: those we've lost. While Mary was typically the more active 211 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: seeker of this couple, driven by her raw, motherly grief 212 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:49,119 Speaker 2: and desperate hope, Abraham Lincoln himself attended many of these sessions. 213 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: He reportedly found a measure of comfort or philosophical solace 214 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: in them, even if he remained personally cautious or reflective 215 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: about out their direct meaning. For him, it was a 216 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: flicker of light in the deep darkness of his personal 217 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: loss that mirrored the darkness engulfing the nation. The practice 218 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: of seeking comfort and connection through mediums was in fact 219 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: quite common in America during the mid nineteenth century, especially 220 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: in the wake of immense national loss like the Civil War, 221 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: as countless families across the country desperately yearned to reach 222 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: out to those they had lost on a battlefield or 223 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: had died from a disease. This reminds us that grief 224 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: is timeless, universal, and it drives each of us to 225 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: seek answers beyond conventional wisdom, often leading us to explore 226 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: the unseen realms of existence. Abraham Lincoln himself experienced profound 227 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: spiritual phenomena that went beyond typical dreams, hinting at a 228 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: deeper connection to a non physical reality. Famed recounted a 229 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 2: premonition he had in a dream about his own assassination 230 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: in vivid detail. These are words by Abraham Lincoln about 231 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: ten days ago, I retired very late. I had been 232 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: up waiting for important dispatches from the front. I could 233 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: not have been long in bed when I fell into 234 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: a slumber, for I was weary. I soon began to dream. 235 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: There seemed to be a deathlike stillness about me. Then 236 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: I heard subdued sobs, as if a number of people 237 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: were weeping. I thought, I left my bed and wandered downstairs. 238 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: There the silence was broken by the same pitiful sobbing, 239 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: but the mourners were invisible. I went from room to room. 240 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: No living person was in sight, but the same mournful 241 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: sounds of distress met me as I passed along. It 242 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: was light in all the rooms, and every object was 243 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: familiar to me. But where were all the people who 244 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: were grieving as if their hearts would break? I was 245 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: puzzled and alarmed. What could be the meaning of all 246 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 2: of this? Determined to find the cause of a state 247 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: of things so mysterious and so shocking, I kept on 248 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: until I arrived at the east room, which I entered. There, 249 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: I was met with a sickening surprise. Before me was 250 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: a cattle felk on which rested a corpse wrapped in 251 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: funeral vestments. Around it were stationed soldiers who were acting 252 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: as guards, and there was a throng of people, some 253 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: gazing mournfully upon the corpse, whose face was covered, others 254 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: weeping pitifully. Who is dead in the White House? I 255 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: demanded of one of the soldiers, the president. His answer, 256 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: he was killed by an assassin. Then came a loud 257 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: burst of grief from the crowd, which awoke me from 258 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: my dream. This incredible dream, later confirmed by historical events, 259 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: highlights a deep, undeniable connection to a non physical reality 260 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: and the precognitive potential of our human spirit, even for 261 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: a president burdened by the immense weight of a nation. Next, 262 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: let's consider another iconic figure, the Father of America, none 263 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: other than George Washington. While not a classic near death 264 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: experience with physiological death in the modern sense, there was 265 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: a compelling legendary story known as Washington's Vision at Valley Forge. 266 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: This account, published in the National Republican in eighteen sixty one, 267 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: describes Washington having a profound spirit encounter during the brutal 268 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: freezing winter encampment of seventeen seventy seven to seventeen seventy eight, 269 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: a time of immense despair and hardship for the Continental Army. 270 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: Conditions were horrific, with soldiers suffering from cold, hunger, and disease, 271 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: and the very future of the American Revolution hung precariously 272 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: in the balance. As the story goes, alone, in his quarters, 273 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: reflecting on the grim prospects of the revolution and contemplating 274 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: the seemingly insurmountable challenges, Washington reportedly received a vision where 275 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: he encountered an angelic being who revealed three distinct visions 276 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: of America's future, its initial struggles and adversities, its eventual 277 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: triumph and prosperity, and its future perils that would test 278 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: the nation's resolve. This was a powerful spiritually transformative experience, 279 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: also known as a ste for General Washington, linking a 280 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: pivotal patriotic figure directly to a non physical encounter that 281 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: seemed to offer divine guidance, deeply shaping his understanding of 282 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: the nation's destiny and its underlying spiritual purpose. It's a 283 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: testament to the idea that even the most grounded and 284 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 2: practical leaders could be open to profound spiritual experiences that 285 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: shape their actions and understanding of a greater purpose. Beyond 286 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: these specific stories, many of the Founding fathers and mothers, 287 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: though diverse in their personal faiths and philosophical leanings, did 288 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: hold spiritual beliefs that often included a conviction in the 289 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: continuity of the soul or consciousness after death. For instance, 290 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: Benjamin Franklin, a renowned scientist, inventor, diplomat, and statesman, frequently 291 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: expressed a belief in the soul's immortality and a conscious 292 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: existence beyond physical death. He famously captured his view in 293 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: a letter to his friend, I look upon death to 294 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: be as necessary to the Constitution as sleep. We will 295 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 2: rise refreshed in the morning. He viewed death not as 296 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: an end, but as a natural and refreshing transition, almost 297 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: like changing clothes for a new day, a continuous cycle 298 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: of renewal and progression. Thomas Jefferson was the third President 299 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: of the United States and a key American Founding father. 300 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: He often thought about things using reason and natural laws 301 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: rather than following religion. Even so, in his private writings 302 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: he showed that he was open to the idea of 303 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: a life after death. He believed in a great creator, 304 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: a divine architect, and felt there was a natural sense 305 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: of right and wrong built into the world. This led 306 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: him to think that our actions on Earth might have 307 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: meaning and consequences in a life beyond this one. We 308 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: also have insights from military leaders who saw the world 309 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: through a profound spiritual lens. General George S. Patten, a 310 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: brilliant and complex military figure renowned for his determination and 311 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: strategic genius during World War Two, hinted at his own 312 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: understanding of a continuous soul journey when he famously stated, 313 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: so as through a glass and darkly the age long strife, 314 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: I see where I fought in many guises, many names, 315 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: but was always me. This powerful quote speaks to the 316 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: enduring nature of the soul through multiple lifetimes. It suggests 317 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: that our earthly life lives are but chapters in a 318 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: much larger, ongoing spiritual saga, and that our very experiences 319 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: might be echoes of past existence. These historical accounts, whether 320 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: through direct communication via mediums, profound visions, or deep personal convictions, 321 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 2: reinforce a universal human intuition, the deep seated understanding that 322 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: life and indeed our consciousness continues beyond death. These historical figures, 323 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: in their pursuit of earthly freedom for a nation, also 324 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: seemed to grasp a grander freedom of the soul, a 325 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: liberation that extends far beyond the physical realm. Their experiences 326 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: provide historical evidence that the human spirit has always sought 327 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: to understand and connect with the unseen. When we return, 328 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: will expand this concept of spiritual liberation, and we'll hear 329 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: from American soldiers and veterans whose own near death experiences 330 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: offer powerful insights into this universal truth. We'll be right back. 331 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 332 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: and post to cost Am Paranormal podcast Network. Welcome back 333 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. We've explored 334 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: how America's early leaders in their pursuit of national independence 335 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: also touched upon profound spiritual freedoms. Now let's cast our 336 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: gaze even wider, recognizing that the yearning for ultimate freedom 337 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: is universal thread woven through the rich tapestry of our 338 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: human existence, transcending all borders, all cultures, and all specific beliefs. 339 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: It's a fundamental truth that resonates in every corner of 340 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: the world, a deep knowing embedded within our human hearts. 341 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 2: Around the globe and across countless spiritual traditions, death is 342 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: viewed as not the end, but as a profound liberation 343 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: of our souls. Think about it a release from the 344 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: limitations of the physical body, freedom from our pain, freedom 345 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: from illness, from the aging process, and from countless earthly 346 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: concerns and attachments that often bind us throughout our lives. 347 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: This perspective of death as a spiritual release a joyous 348 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: return home is powerfully echoed in thousands upon thousands and 349 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 2: thousands of near death experiences, also called ndaes, documented from 350 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: people of all ages, backgrounds, and spiritual beliefs from every 351 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: single continent. Individuals who step onto the very edge of 352 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: death consistently report feeling an incredible sense of freedom, a 353 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: profound peace, and an overwhelming wave of unconditional love as 354 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: they begin to separate from their physical forms. They describe 355 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: being free from anxiety, from physical discomfort, from the burdens 356 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: of their earthly lives, finding themselves immersed in a realm 357 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: of pure joy, boundless existence, and absolute clarity. These ND 358 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: accounts are remarkably consistent, creating a compelling pattern of shared 359 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: experiences regardless of the individual's cultural background or their religious upbringing, 360 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: or even whether they were blind from birth. They often 361 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: include common elements like traveling through a tunnel towards a 362 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: brilliant light, encountering deceased loved ones, even their pets or 363 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: spiritual beings, undergoing a life review where they re experience 364 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: their actions and their impact from the perspective of others, 365 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: and feeling a deep reluctance to return to their physical 366 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: bodies once they've gotten a glimpse of this new reality. 367 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: This remarkable consistency across a diverse experiences around the world 368 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: speaks volumes about the universality of our afterlife journey, suggesting 369 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: it's not a mere cultural construct or a hallucination, but 370 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: an innate, authentic part of human consciousness that simply shifts 371 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 2: its perception. And these next experience is are not just 372 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: ordinary citizens. They extend to those who have served their countries, 373 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: facing unimaginable dangers and profound sacrifice. We do have powerful 374 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: first hand accounts from soldiers and veterans who have had 375 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: their own near death experiences, offering insights into the freedom 376 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 2: of our souls, even amidst the chaos of conflict, of 377 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: trauma or injury, or at the moment of imminent death. 378 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: Their stories are testament to our strong spirit that seeks 379 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: liberation even in the most extreme circumstances. Consider the powerful 380 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: account of a World War II soldier. After suffering a 381 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: severe gunshot wound, and during what was a desperate surgery 382 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 2: in the field, he found himself suddenly floating three feet 383 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: above his body. He described looking down at the f 384 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: antic scene of doctors working on him with a profound 385 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: inner peace, completely detached from any pain or any fear. 386 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: He then perceived a vision of a beautiful blue sky 387 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: and an intensely bright, yet comforting and loving light. A 388 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: voice filled with wisdom and love asked him why he 389 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: wanted to return. His response, driven by just a knowing, 390 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: was to complete my earthly purpose, leading to his conscious 391 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: decision to re enter his body, Forever changed by the experience. 392 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: This account is a powerful testament to our consciousness operating 393 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: independently of the physical form, even in extreme duress and 394 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: the chaos of wartime. This next story from a British 395 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: veteran highlights the comfort of family reunion beyond the veil. 396 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: This soulure, serving during a modern conflict, suffered catastrophic injuries 397 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: that led him to being pronounced clinically dead on the 398 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: battlefield for several minutes He described an immediate sensation of 399 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: leaving his body, feeling no pain or fear, only an 400 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: overwhelming sense of peace. He found himself in a beautiful, 401 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: serene landscape, bathed in a soft golden light that radiated 402 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: pure love. The sounds of war faded completely, replaced by 403 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: a gentle, harmonious hum that filled him with tranquility. Then 404 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: familiar figures began to emerge from the light. First, his grandmother, 405 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: who had passed years ago, looked at him with immense 406 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: joy and pride. She didn't speak in words, but he 407 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: felt her unconditional love wash over him, a communication far 408 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: deeper than any earthly conversation. Next, he saw his beloved 409 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: childhood dog, an old terrier named Rusty, wagging his tail 410 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: with youthful joy, running towards him as if no time 411 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: had passed. The reunion with Rusty was filled with the 412 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: warmth and loyalty. Only a pet can provide more family 413 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: members than spirit. Were there, vibrant and whole, free from 414 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: any earthly ailment they might have had, They too conveyed 415 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: messages of love and reassurance, letting him know that they 416 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: were okay and that he too was safe. However, they 417 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: gently made it clear to him that his time was 418 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: not yet done. He had to go back and had 419 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: a mission to fulfill in his physical life, lessons to 420 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: learn and love to give. With a deep sense of 421 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: purpose and a new found peace, he found himself pulled 422 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: back to his body, re entering the chaos of the battlefield. 423 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: The experience left him with an unshakable conviction in the 424 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: continuity of life and the enduring bonds of family and 425 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: even beloved pets beyond physical death. Next, an American marine 426 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: veteran who experienced a near death event during a training accident, 427 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: profoundly changing his understanding of life and connection. During a 428 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: dangerous exercise, a critical error led to a severe impact, 429 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: and he lost consciousness. Teetering on the brink of death, 430 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: he drifted out of his body. He found himself in 431 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: an immense void. Yet it was not dark or frightening. Instead, 432 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: he said, it was filled with a profound sense of 433 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: peace and an all encompassing presence of love. He felt 434 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: an incredible lightness, completely free from the physical pain of 435 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: his injuries. It was a silence deeper than any he 436 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: had ever known. Suddenly, a figure appeared to him, creating 437 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: warmth with a familiar energy. It was his father who 438 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: had passed away unexpectedly when the marine was just a teenager. 439 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: His father looked younger, healthier, and was smiling with a 440 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: love beyond earthly limits. There was no words spoken out loud, communication, 441 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: he said, was telepathic, a direct transfer of pure knowing 442 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: and affection. His father conveyed deep pride in his service 443 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: and the man that he had become, reassuring him that 444 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: he had always been watching over him. He showed him 445 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 2: fleeting glimpses of family gatherings and moments of quiet strength 446 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: from his early life, confirming his father's constant presence. But 447 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: then his father gently communicated that his mission on earth 448 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: was not yet complete. He had significant lessons still to 449 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: learn and love yet to experience in his physical life. 450 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: With a final comforting embrace that he felt with every 451 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: fiber of his being, this Marine was guided back towards 452 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: his body. He awoke in the hospital, the feeling of 453 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: his father's love still palpable, and the memory of that 454 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: reunion forever etched into his soul. The experience dissolved his 455 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: fear of death and instilled the profound understanding of the 456 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: unbreakable bonds of family. Regardless of which side of the 457 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: veil they reside on next. Even with the belief systems 458 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 2: like reincarnation seen in many Eastern cultures, the soul's journey 459 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: seems to continue. Some believe each life offers a new 460 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: chance to grow and move closer to spiritual freedom. Henry Ford, 461 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: you'll know his name from Ford Automobiles, once said genius 462 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: is experience. Some seem to think that it is a 463 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: gift or talent, but it is the fruit of long 464 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 2: experience in many lives. He felt that the soul gathers 465 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: wisdom and skills over many lifetimes. Elizabeth Kobler Ross, a 466 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: pioneering Swiss psychiatrist who we've mentioned before and did one 467 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: episode about her, studied thousands of near death experiences, and 468 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: she wisely said, death is simply a shedding of the 469 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: physical body, like the butterfly shedding its cocoon. It's a 470 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: transition to a higher state of consciousness where you continue 471 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: to perceive, to understand, to laugh, and to be able 472 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: to grow. Her work showed that our existence continues after 473 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: the body dies, proving once again that death is not 474 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: to be feared. And of course, doctor Raymond Moody, who 475 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: coined the term near death experience, found consistent reports of 476 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 2: peace and vivid experiences, which, of course he believes are 477 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 2: truly real. Kenneth Ring's research on blind people seeing during 478 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: NDEs also suggests our consciousness works way beyond our physical senses. 479 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: No matter your background, the deep feeling that your soul 480 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: is eternal and free is a force that connects us all. 481 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: It's a universal message of spiritual independence, promising a future 482 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: for all of us of endless love, peace and growth 483 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 2: for everyone. Now, don't go anywhere, because when we get back, 484 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: we'll have another story and we'll talk about how we 485 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: can gain independence in our own lives. You're listening to 486 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 2: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 487 00:37:47,920 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of 488 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and as we are patriotic 489 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: and talking about independence and freedom, I want to bring 490 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: up three people who I have met personally who have 491 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: been part of the US Armed Forces and make a 492 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: difference with the afterlife. Back on episode thirty six, you 493 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: met these two and you can hear their full stories there. 494 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 2: One is US Navy Commander Suzanne Geeseman, who served as 495 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: a highly respected aid to the Chief of Naval Operations. 496 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: She is a woman of logic, discipline, and a deep 497 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 2: sense of integrity. Her life took an unexpected turn after 498 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: a personal tragedy, the sudden death of her stepdaughter, Susan. 499 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: This loss propelled Susanne into an intense quest for answers. 500 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: Through rigorous and methodical investigation, much like she would approach 501 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: any military intelligence operation, Suzanne discovered undeniable evidence of survival. 502 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: She not only found comfort with that, but developed her 503 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: own extraordinary ability to communicate with spirit. Commander Geeseman, a 504 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 2: woman of impeccable character and a former skeptic, is now 505 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 2: a renowned evidential medium, dedicating her life to bringing messages 506 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: of hope and proof that our loved ones are still here. Next, 507 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: let's turn to US Navy Chief Petty Officer Tony Woodie. 508 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: Tony's story is a vivid testament to the power of 509 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: a near death experience. During his military service, Tony suffered 510 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: a near fatal aircraft incident, an experience that propelled him 511 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: out of his body and to the very threshold of 512 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: the afterlife. He recounted being a in a realm of 513 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: profound peace and light observing his own body and the 514 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 2: chaos of the scene below. His experience, deeply impactful and transformative, 515 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 2: brought him an undeniable understanding that consciousness continues beyond physical limits. Tony, 516 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: a dedicated and disciplined military man, returned from that experience 517 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 2: with absolute certainty in life after death. Sharing his unique 518 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 2: perspective as a veteran who literally glimpsed eternity and back 519 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: on Episode one hundred and thirty is the story of 520 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: US Colonel Diane Corkran. Diane, who is herself now in spirit, 521 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: was a true pioneer and a champion for all soldiers 522 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: and veterans who had near death experiences. As a highly 523 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 2: trained nurse and respected academic, she understood the unique challenges 524 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 2: and profound impacts near death experiences on those in uniform. 525 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: She was fiercely passionate about helping these brave men and 526 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 2: women find their way back to living full lives, assisting 527 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: them and processing their extraordinary experiences and integrating them into 528 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: their reality. Colonel Diane Corkran dedicated a significant part of 529 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: her career to the International Association for Near Death Studies 530 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: or ians dot org, advocating for research, understanding, and support. 531 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 2: Her work bridging the worlds of military service, medicine, and 532 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: spiritual inquiry ensured that the profound experiences of veterans were heard, validated, 533 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: and used to bring comfort and healing to countless others. 534 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: She was a true force of loving and knowing. A 535 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: shout out to our friends at IMS, who have an 536 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: incredible amount of free things. On their website you can 537 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: research near death experiences and once a year they hold 538 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: an extraordinary in person conference. You can go to the 539 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: conference live, which in twenty twenty five is in Chicago, 540 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 2: and on their website you can also watch past conferences again. 541 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 2: Their website is ions dot org. Now, if our souls 542 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 2: are indeed eternal and truly free, unburdened by the limitations 543 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: of the physical body and the confines of earth, how 544 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: does that transform the way we live our lives? It's 545 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: a great question, and how does it influence our daily 546 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: choices and our approach to challenges and even our grief. 547 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 2: Just as our most courageous pioneers and visionaries pushed beyond 548 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 2: known boundaries to forge a new nation, we too can 549 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 2: claim our spiritual independence from fear, doubt, and the limiting 550 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: beliefs that hold us back, knowingly or unknowingly. It empowers 551 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: us to live with greater purpose, to extend compassion to 552 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 2: ourselves and others, to practice genuine forgiveness, and to bravely 553 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 2: step outside of our comfort zones, knowing that a vast, 554 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: loving and supportive reality always surrounds us, guiding every step. Now, 555 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: we human beings fear three predominant things. It's the fear 556 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 2: of being alone, the fear of failure, and the fear 557 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: of death. We are never truly alone if you have 558 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 2: no living people around you. Fear not. You are supported 559 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 2: by guides and loved ones. We have a fear of failure. 560 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 2: Fear not failure is a good thing. The only way 561 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: to success is by failure. We learn, and when we 562 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: get home to the afterlife, we get to share all 563 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 2: those glorious times we fail and the wonderful things we've learned. 564 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: And of course, we should have no fear of dying. 565 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: Why because after two hundred and forty something episodes that 566 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: no doubt you've listened to, you know that our consciousness 567 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: survives death. They say fear stands for false evidence appearing real. 568 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 2: Someone taught me a trick. It's not easy. But if 569 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: you pay attention to those moments you are afraid and 570 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: take action anyway. If you pay full attention and are 571 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 2: in the present moment to what you are doing, the 572 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 2: fear disappears. We can only concentrate on one thing at 573 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 2: a time. Let it be the project in hand and 574 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: not the fear that's trying to stop you. What else 575 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 2: do we need freedom from? Well, if you've read my 576 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 2: book We Don't Die, I talk about that voice that's 577 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: in our head, that persistent inner critic that often tells 578 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: us to be afraid. It passes judgment on everything about us. 579 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 2: There's negative self talk, and this is not our true 580 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: soul self. That inner voice can be a complex survival 581 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: mechanism that takes information we received in our past, perhaps 582 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: things that happened in our childhood or moments of pain, 583 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 2: and what it does is it tries to shape our future, 584 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 2: telling us things like you are unlovable, or you are different, 585 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: or you cannot have everything that you want. It is 586 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 2: designed to keep us safe, but it also can keep 587 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 2: us very small. When we choose to quiet that voice 588 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: through practices like meditation, mindfulness, or observing our thoughts and 589 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 2: instead connect with that inner wisdom, our intuition, that higher 590 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 2: part of ourselves. Well, we gain a profound sense of 591 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: self heal, acceptance, and courage. We can start looking at 592 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: ourselves like those who have had near death experiences, feel 593 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 2: that unconditional love. Really, what would that be like to 594 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: look in the mirror and only see and feel unconditional love? 595 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 2: Realizing you're not alone ever, as we have a love 596 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: around as I said, even if we can't see it. 597 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 2: This understanding gives each one of us the freedom to 598 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 2: confidently go after our deepest dreams, to take some bold steps, 599 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: knowing also that every experience is a lesson. Every challenge 600 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: we have is a chance to expand our consciousness and 601 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 2: strengthen our soul to truly live. This declaration of spiritual 602 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: independence means embracing our capacities as eternal beings. It means 603 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: recognizing the immense power of our thoughts and intentions, knowing 604 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: that they literally shape our reality. It means cultivating love 605 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: and gratitude as our primary modes of being, for these 606 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: are the highest vibrations and they really do attract good things, 607 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 2: meaning joy abundance in our lives. The more we talk 608 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: to people about positive things and positive memories, they'll start 609 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: to do the same thing. Also, in our declaration of 610 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: spiritual independence, it means we extend compassion to others, understanding 611 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 2: that they too are eternal souls on their own unique 612 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 2: journeys and they deserve empathy and understanding. And last, it 613 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: means forgiving ourselves for any perceived mistakes or past regrets, 614 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 2: knowing that unconditional love and acceptance await us on the 615 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: other side, and indeed are available to us right now. So, 616 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 2: my friend, what insight from today's discussion about freedom of 617 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 2: the soul resonated more powerfully with you today? I'd love 618 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 2: to hear it. I don't know how you enjoy Shades 619 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 2: of the Afterlife, but I read every review. So whether 620 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 2: it's Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen, your heartfelt 621 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 2: written comments really truly do help new listeners discover the 622 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 2: message of hope, the message that we survive physical death, 623 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 2: the help through grief, and everything that's in my heart. 624 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 2: As a reminder for past episodes, great resources, medium classes, 625 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 2: read a free copy of my book, come to our 626 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: inspirational Sunday gathering with medium demonstration, and so much more. 627 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 2: You can go to We Don't die dot com. Remember, 628 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: as the brilliant inventor Nikola Tesla wisely stated, the day 629 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 2: science begins to study non physical phenomena, it will make 630 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 2: more progress in one deca aid than in all of 631 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: the previous centuries of its existence. Science is increasingly becoming 632 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 2: our powerful partner in this incredible exploration of the afterlife, 633 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: validating what countless spiritual traditions and personal experiences have told 634 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 2: us for millennia, bridging the gap between faith and empirical understanding. 635 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: As we conclude our episode today, take a moment in 636 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: your heart to thank anyone who has fought for your freedom. 637 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: And if you see a veteran around town, be sure 638 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 2: to thank them for their service. And please don't wait 639 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: for eternity to declare your independence. Knowing our souls are limitless, 640 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,479 Speaker 2: we are free to live fully. Now, shed fear, embrace joy, 641 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: and step into your power, for your spirit's freedom began 642 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 2: long before this life and will last for eternity after 643 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: this life. With my friends, give yourself a big hug. 644 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 2: It's not easy being human. I thank you so much 645 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: for your time, and thank you for listening to our 646 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 2: very patriotic version of Shades of the Afterlife. On the 647 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast Day Paranormal Podcast Network. 648 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 649 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,479 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 650 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 651 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com