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Speaker 1: It's Toss show time. Good morning Eddie, Good morning Daniel, Eddie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that I was made in Germany, right, I
Speaker 1: do know that? And you know that my favorite band
Speaker 1: has always been Romstein.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do ask me? Do hospit god? If? If not, God fly.
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with Man, you don't like that song.
Speaker 4: I don't know that I don't like it. I'm not
Speaker 4: familiar with.
Speaker 2: The hush hush me if not, I don't know the words.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: It's in though, it's I'm in the wheelhouse. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you play that song? Nothing? Nothing gets gets me going.
Speaker 1: You can save your black coffee, give me some Ramstein.
Speaker 1: I'm in a good mood all right now. I don't
Speaker 1: like to pat myself on the back too often, but
Speaker 1: this this is this is one for the ages. The
Speaker 1: other day, I'm with my daughter, I'm holding her. We
Speaker 1: go into a coffee shop. Okay, I don't drink coffee.
Speaker 1: Getting a coffee for my wife. She didn't even ask
Speaker 1: for it. I'm just picking her up on iced hazelnut
Speaker 1: vanilla latte with oat milk. I don't know, I know
Speaker 1: a version of what she likes. Anyway, I'm going in
Speaker 1: there just to just to make her day a little brighter.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick her up a coffee. Now. In uh
Speaker 1: the coffee shop, uh, waiting for their order were two
Speaker 1: black men in their early twenties, and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this is probably wrong, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: very gay.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: A lot of mannerisms. Dressed fabulous. Okay. One of them
Speaker 1: looks me dead in the eye and goes, excuse me,
Speaker 1: are you a famous model?
Speaker 2: Wow? Holy cow?
Speaker 1: I almost dropped my child right. I was like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me?
Speaker 2: I looked at it? Are you? I go? I go?
Speaker 1: He just he just made my life. Now I am
Speaker 1: not a famous model. And this is what he says
Speaker 1: to me with no hesitation. After no, I'm not, he goes, well,
Speaker 1: you've got that factor? Wow, how am I not supposed to?
Speaker 1: And I know you're like, you know, we shouldn't care
Speaker 1: about their sexual preference or or their race, but I care.
Speaker 1: And it made them so much cooler. And for them
Speaker 1: to say, like, if some hillbilly looked at me and goes,
Speaker 1: you must be a famous model, I would be like, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't even know that I would report it. I
Speaker 1: would be terrified that I was about ready to get
Speaker 1: thrown the back of a pickup. But from these two,
Speaker 1: who clearly knew style and fashion, to look at me
Speaker 1: and just go oh like I was, I was floored.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. You ever had you ever had
Speaker 1: to do? Gay men come up to you and just
Speaker 1: tell you how beautiful you are. I mean, I've never
Speaker 1: injected heroin in the eye of my cock, but it's
Speaker 1: got to be close. That's pretty neat. Well anyway, so
Speaker 1: I'm in a great mood, so I thought what better
Speaker 1: way to bring me down off my high then read
Speaker 1: some of the comments, uh from our subscribers. Yeah, so Eddie,
Speaker 1: go ahead, put me in a put me in a
Speaker 1: foul mood.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 4: This's is from the Sergio episode.
Speaker 1: Okay, Sergio, my my the builder of my home.
Speaker 4: Says great interview until he said he thinks Spain is
Speaker 4: the best country in the world. Nothing like a rich
Speaker 4: person working in the US, raising children in the US,
Speaker 4: and developing a life in the US than saying another country.
Speaker 1: Is all right, stop, stop done, I'm done. See and
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: It took it took you reading half of a comment
Speaker 1: for me to realize that this was a horrible idea.
Speaker 3: Oh god, you fucking people are so stupid. You know,
Speaker 3: do you know you're stupid or do you think do
Speaker 3: you think when you were hammering out that way too
Speaker 3: long comment that you were like, hmm, I got him here.
Speaker 3: First of all, let's let's start with the one thing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I shouldn't talk talk about one of my friend's finances,
Speaker 1: but I think Sergio would be totally okay with this.
Speaker 1: He is He is not rich by any stretch of
Speaker 1: the imagination. He was the foreman on my job's at
Speaker 1: his I hired his boss his boss's company, and Sergio
Speaker 1: works underneath him. So you know, people are saying, oh,
Speaker 1: he overcharged you. He never charged me anything. He was
Speaker 1: he had somebody to report to the fact that I
Speaker 1: gave Sergio stuff that we weren't using or extra stuff
Speaker 1: is not the point. So let's start with that Sergio
Speaker 1: is not rich now, liking his home country more than
Speaker 1: he likes America.
Speaker 2: How dare he? First of all, he has.
Speaker 1: A Mexican wife who they met in Los Angeles, and
Speaker 1: they have a family here. That's why for the majority
Speaker 1: of the year they live here, because that's where his
Speaker 1: family is. I just it always me so much when
Speaker 1: people say when a president gets elected and people threaten
Speaker 1: to leave, like, oh, if he wins, I'm leaving the country.
Speaker 1: I never say stuff like that, and I could. I
Speaker 1: could go anywhere on this planet if I felt like it.
Speaker 1: I don't because I don't want to. It's like, this
Speaker 1: is where I live, this is where my family is.
Speaker 1: These are the restaurants that I like to go to
Speaker 1: or that I know about, so I don't want to
Speaker 1: have to find new places to eat. I just it's
Speaker 1: so dumb. Do I think it's the best country in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: I don't do.
Speaker 1: I like living here, Yeah, it's great. I love the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. I don't fucking live in Miami. I know
Speaker 1: that they are not the best team in football. They're
Speaker 1: not even in the top fifty percent. I don't believe.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so weird. How can he like
Speaker 1: where he was born and raised more than where he
Speaker 1: lives now with his wife and kids. I don't know. Oh,
Speaker 1: he just thinks it's great. So who gives a shit?
Speaker 1: You know, the person that's commenting this isn't some guy
Speaker 1: that's got it all together living in Laguna Beach going,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're shitting on this place. No, it's
Speaker 1: some guy in some horrible part of this country hammering
Speaker 1: on the keyboard. You can love someplace more than where
Speaker 1: you live. If you don't think it's the best, then
Speaker 1: you you shouldn't be here. That's that is so dumb.
Speaker 1: The other thing I can't wrap my head around completely
Speaker 1: is is people that that type things out that are
Speaker 1: shitting on the guests that we have. These aren't celebrities,
Speaker 1: so these people don't need to come on the show.
Speaker 1: They're they're doing me a favor. They don't, they're not.
Speaker 1: They don't have a PR team telling them, I, oh no,
Speaker 1: this will help your image. So you guys are doing
Speaker 1: me a disservice when you when you write snarky things
Speaker 1: about a guest that didn't want to be on a
Speaker 1: show in the first place, They're not looking for any
Speaker 1: type of attention. I'm just asking hey, as a favor
Speaker 1: to me, can I interview you because I find you
Speaker 1: fascinating and I want to share your story with people.
Speaker 1: So you're doing this show at disservice when you write
Speaker 1: nasty things about a guest, and makes it harder for
Speaker 1: me to get other guests to come on the show.
Speaker 1: And some people like to say nice things about me. Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I do a good job interview in these people.
Speaker 1: But some of these people are very this is the
Speaker 1: first time they've ever been interviewed. They're very nervous. I
Speaker 1: have to ramble thirty minutes about what we're gonna eat
Speaker 1: later for lunch, just to get them comfortable before we
Speaker 1: get into it. And then when we finally have a
Speaker 1: fun discussion, you hammer shit out about fuck this guy
Speaker 1: taking jobs from us. But go round here. Uh, Eddie,
Speaker 1: what's your what's your Uh? What's your favorite country?
Speaker 4: What you say France?
Speaker 2: France?
Speaker 1: Well that that would upset Sergio. To be honest, John,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Spain.
Speaker 1: Oh, look at this. Two Americans, one military kid, the
Speaker 1: other one from Ohio, and both of them pick a
Speaker 1: European country. You guys are both deplorable. Dylan, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite country? I'm going Norway, nor actually pretty good.
Speaker 2: He might he might be able to sway me on
Speaker 2: that one. Pete Spain. Hete was Spain? All right?
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what my favorite country is? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's America. But I'm a homer. I'm a homer in fairness,
Speaker 1: it's it's I like Tahoe, and Tahoe's in America, so
Speaker 1: the whole country wins.
Speaker 2: Because of Tahoe. You know what.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Eddie. I know we're gonna do comments, but
Speaker 1: you've soured me. You soured me with the first one,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear from anybody else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: moan all you want, guys. One bad apple ruined the
Speaker 1: whole thing for everyone. I'm kind of in a good
Speaker 1: mood though, because I'm thinking thinking about Tahoe, which always
Speaker 1: makes me happy because it's a magical place and I
Speaker 1: don't even believe in magic, but there's something about that altitude.
Speaker 1: Once you're over six thousand feet. Oh, smell of the pine.
Speaker 1: That's magic, Not like today's guest who dabbles in the
Speaker 1: dark arts. Enjoy Pasha, My guest today has a job that,
Speaker 1: even if you think is silly, you can't deny how
Speaker 1: insanely impressive it is to see in person. He can
Speaker 1: take a deck of cards and magically make you pretend
Speaker 1: to care. Please welcome Hollywood's favorite magician, Jeff Black.
Speaker 2: So great to be here. That's nice to you. Jeff.
Speaker 2: What is this thing? Is this notes? Just remember some stuff?
Speaker 1: If I gotta get that off my desk, make that
Speaker 1: disappear boom?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: First question, do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2: No? Is it better if I lie? Huh? Okay? Can
Speaker 2: magicians get into heaven? Yeah? I don't think they can.
Speaker 2: I like that. That's a serious question.
Speaker 3: Anyone can get the forgiveness of Oh I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like because you're dabbling in the dark arts.
Speaker 2: I mean, my last name is black. All I do
Speaker 2: is black magic. Oh man.
Speaker 3: I get emails actually from people that want me to
Speaker 3: put curses on their family members and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't really do that kind of
Speaker 3: black magic.
Speaker 2: It's like hard tricks. You don't think nerdier. Can you
Speaker 2: do curses?
Speaker 3: I know I don't do that. No, all right, Jeff,
Speaker 3: Where are you originally from? I'm originally from Arcadia, California.
Speaker 2: You ever go there? Why not? Why'd you say why not?
Speaker 2: Before I answered, well, I'm already assuming that you haven't
Speaker 2: been there. When what have I gone to Arcadia?
Speaker 3: It's next to Pasadena, so yeah, I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 3: I've been to Pasadena.
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, So you're from Arcadia. How'd you
Speaker 1: get into magic?
Speaker 3: I saw the David Blaine specials when I was a kid,
Speaker 3: and I always wanted to learn and like, it just
Speaker 3: seemed like the coolest thing ever. And then the library
Speaker 3: was really bad with the books they had at the time,
Speaker 3: so I didn't really get to learn until YouTube was
Speaker 3: a thing in high school for me.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: David Blaine had an influence on me as well, because
Speaker 1: he would be interviewed regularly on Howard Stern and I
Speaker 1: would hear this monotone and then i'd see his face
Speaker 1: on the E Network when they would televise it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, and then I would see the girls that
Speaker 1: he was dating, and I was like, what in the
Speaker 1: actual fuck is going on? Like magic is real? If
Speaker 1: this sack of shit is he used to date everyone
Speaker 1: in Hollywood? Mind blowing. That's the only part of it
Speaker 1: that interested me, none of it. Do you would like
Speaker 1: what he does now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna hold my breath for twelve minutes, bullshit.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Like he's really pushing his body a lot of that's
Speaker 3: like very real, and he's meeting the people that do
Speaker 3: it learn how.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 1: And I just liked it when he was on the
Speaker 1: street doing tricks in front of black people and then
Speaker 1: they would scream like crazy.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite. That's the formula he innovated. I wish
Speaker 3: you would.
Speaker 1: He's the one that figured out black people are the
Speaker 1: best audiences.
Speaker 3: That's the first magic special that really put that in
Speaker 3: the line light. And he created the genre of street
Speaker 3: magic basically by doing it.
Speaker 1: You join the magic club at your high school?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How much pussy did you guys get? Do most high
Speaker 1: schools have a magic club?
Speaker 2: I hope so.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I've never heard of such a thing. What can
Speaker 1: you letter in magic letter?
Speaker 2: Oh? Like that? Oh? Is that like a grade in school? Oh?
Speaker 1: This is so perfectly. You don't know the reference of letter.
Speaker 1: If you play football for your high school, you get
Speaker 1: a letter like a letterman's jacket, and you a letter.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I've never lettered. Let's be clear. It's like
Speaker 1: the chess club. I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a much better comparison. Okay. How many people
Speaker 2: were in the magic club in your high school? Fifteen
Speaker 2: twenty pretty good amount a big high school. I had
Speaker 2: like four thousand kids in my high school.
Speaker 1: Diversity in that club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. Arcadia is a diverse city, Okay. In general, magicians.
Speaker 3: Diverse, not not between genders stuff and not genderwise.
Speaker 2: Why don't women become magicians?
Speaker 3: I've always assumed it was because magicians learn it to
Speaker 3: pick up girls. But there is a bigger magic presence
Speaker 3: from the women, at least at the Magic Castle. Now
Speaker 3: they have like a women's night they made up. It's
Speaker 3: I can see a growing momentum there.
Speaker 2: How long does it take to get good at magic?
Speaker 3: I felt like after three years I was just like
Speaker 3: feeling my hands. I'm like, whoa three years of like
Speaker 3: everyday practice card magic.
Speaker 2: I was like, I feel proficient.
Speaker 3: I can do anything I really want to do now
Speaker 3: that's with like twelve sixteen hour practice days.
Speaker 2: What yeah, I just know lifed it for a while.
Speaker 1: Do you prefer illusions or tricks?
Speaker 2: I prefer tricks.
Speaker 3: You're just asking the term or the actual like what
Speaker 3: you refer to it my tricks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I prefer.
Speaker 3: Tricks, just because allusions to me means like big stage props, assistants,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, and that's a lot of just
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Like you do close up magic is your specialty?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That fair?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but will you ever do you do know
Speaker 1: how to do the bigger illusions? Are you building big props?
Speaker 1: I'm working on stuff. I'm yeah, I'm messing with it.
Speaker 1: But I'm not like considering myself an illusionist. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to make my stage show bigger and better.
Speaker 2: You have to have somebody handling all your music cues.
Speaker 2: That's that's a real job. It is. I can do
Speaker 2: it myself in a lot of instances unless.
Speaker 3: The theater's too big, okay, bluetooth distance, I can do
Speaker 3: it myself.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, all right. I had a lot of work like
Speaker 2: a real pro Yeah, now it is what you know.
Speaker 1: I used to work in chin Lin's Theater for a
Speaker 1: long time at the mirage.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh is he good? Oh he's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I've never watched a single minute. We pass each other
Speaker 1: in the hallway. I'm like, hey, shann how was your show?
Speaker 1: He's sprinting because he does a bit where he runs
Speaker 1: backstage like a maniac to get to another entrance and
Speaker 1: and does some I'm like, I always try to stop
Speaker 1: him talk while he's like he's got to hurry up
Speaker 1: and get to this other spot, And I'm like, shit,
Speaker 1: what's going on? How's the audience?
Speaker 2: What a show? Yeah? Now, he actually won a competition
Speaker 2: called fism. Have you ever heard of that one?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's called the Olympics of Magic within the community.
Speaker 3: And if you win that, pretty much every magician of
Speaker 3: the world knows who you are. And yeah, he won
Speaker 3: that a couple of years before he won AGT, so
Speaker 3: I was already a fan of his. I was like, Yes,
Speaker 3: if someone's gonna win AGT, let it be this guy
Speaker 3: who's really.
Speaker 2: Putting the work in. He's not a fraud in any
Speaker 2: sense of the word. Are there frauds? How do you
Speaker 2: cheat your profession?
Speaker 3: There's people who I mean, I'm not to say I
Speaker 3: haven't done this, but I feel soul this when I
Speaker 3: do it. If you just buy a magic trick and
Speaker 3: just copy and paste it into your act.
Speaker 1: In comedy, I think that's why we stick our nose
Speaker 1: up at a lot of magicians because when they try
Speaker 1: to cross over and be funny and it's like, oh
Speaker 1: they you know who really buys acts hypnotists really a
Speaker 1: lot of hypnotists by acts, because for a long time
Speaker 1: comedy clubs hypnotists were taking over too much. They were
Speaker 1: like doing like two weeks. Normally a comic is there
Speaker 1: for one week. And then they were like they just
Speaker 1: buy their act from another hypnotist, and you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's what you do. You bring people up and you
Speaker 1: tell them that's cold, and then it's hot and they
Speaker 1: had all the jokes whatever, and then of course everybody
Speaker 1: loves it because the audience is participating. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it's good. The audience is fucking idiots. Like I
Speaker 1: think we all have to always accept that they're they're there.
Speaker 1: I mean I say that to the audience, I don't
Speaker 1: mean it like a nasty but they don't matter. They're
Speaker 1: just fucking people. I know how you're going to.
Speaker 3: React that's not your first radio. Oh have you bought
Speaker 3: any tricks?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like every trick is just a
Speaker 1: variation of another trick. Is that not true?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say literally every trick is, but most sure.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had to confront another magician that's done
Speaker 1: a trick that was eerily similar to one that you
Speaker 1: that was like a personal trick that you had created?
Speaker 2: Not too much.
Speaker 3: I really do pick stuff that's quite difficult on purpose.
Speaker 3: So that's if you're gonna copy me, you're gonna work
Speaker 3: really hard to do it, or you're gonna do a
Speaker 3: really bad version of it.
Speaker 1: Are there magician magicians?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a term that you guys say like
Speaker 1: a comics co.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh that's the thing too. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that was a thing. Wow, comstomics.
Speaker 1: Sure, comics that like we all want to watch this
Speaker 1: comic perform. A lot of times they take a big,
Speaker 1: you know, bowl of shit in front of the audience
Speaker 1: because the audience doesn't like them, but it's like we
Speaker 1: don't who cares?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, magicians magicians do exist.
Speaker 3: A lot of times they'll like do like classics, but
Speaker 3: they'll change the method and the magicians.
Speaker 2: Will be like whoa.
Speaker 3: But for late people, the classics are a classic for
Speaker 3: a reason, so the method is probably not as good
Speaker 3: as the classic method.
Speaker 1: What's a classic? Just an example?
Speaker 2: The linking rings? You seen that one? Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I mean I think I've always had you know, you
Speaker 1: always end up with a set of rings and that
Speaker 1: you're playing with it, and I'm always like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to do this.
Speaker 2: This is I don't want to I don't want to learn.
Speaker 2: I feel the same. No, I don't touch the linking rings.
Speaker 2: But it's a classic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How often are you thinking of new tricks on your own?
Speaker 2: Pretty often? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And what what's your process? How do you do you
Speaker 1: come up with an idea or do you see something?
Speaker 1: How does it how does it actually become a trick
Speaker 1: in your act?
Speaker 3: The more I evaluate my own process, the more I
Speaker 3: think it's a product of being ADHD. But I just
Speaker 3: see what excites me when I see it, what lights
Speaker 3: my heart up, And then I found those flames and
Speaker 3: I just try to recreate that for others and share that.
Speaker 1: The most bullshit answer I've ever heard. You ever try
Speaker 1: to con people? You ever do any of that?
Speaker 2: In middle school. You did. Yeah, I won like twenty
Speaker 2: bucks from this kid? Yeah, what was it? What was
Speaker 2: the trick you were hustling them with? Do you want
Speaker 2: to see it? Sure? Okay, oh man, I'd love for
Speaker 2: you to take some money off me. All right, see
Speaker 2: that right there.
Speaker 1: It's like chip tricks when you're playing poker. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just all you said to me right there by spinning
Speaker 1: That was Hey, I was in my room a lot.
Speaker 2: I worked at best Buy. But hold on before you
Speaker 2: get too excited on the geek squad.
Speaker 1: I was on the geek squad. I worked at a
Speaker 1: best By before it opened. Whoa right, Like, it was
Speaker 1: just in the best Buy that was opening, and they
Speaker 1: were getting ready and we had to alphabetize the CDs
Speaker 1: and get them all. This is back then, and all
Speaker 1: I would do all day long was practice spinning a
Speaker 1: CD a case.
Speaker 2: That's where all my finger You still do it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got pretty good, pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. It wasn't as good as you,
Speaker 1: but it was. I could spin it for a bit
Speaker 1: and I thought that was cool. I was like ah,
Speaker 1: and then the store open and I quit. All right, Now,
Speaker 1: this is a really basic trick. This is middle school,
Speaker 1: by the way, this I get you.
Speaker 3: All right, go ahead and pull it in a cardilink,
Speaker 3: show it up the camera if you want to look away.
Speaker 3: Once you got it dialed in, go ahead and put
Speaker 3: it back somewhere. And then once you take the cards,
Speaker 3: you how to cut the deck? Yeah, perfect, beautiful, all right.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna start dealing through the cards face up,
Speaker 3: just like this. And you know what a poker face is, right,
Speaker 3: uh huh, So you're gonna keep a poker face if
Speaker 3: you see your card. I want you to make sure
Speaker 3: you don't react at all.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh now I noticed that you started to react a
Speaker 3: little bit there, so I have a feeling that we're
Speaker 3: pretty close.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll actually bet you that the next card I
Speaker 3: flip over is going to be your card.
Speaker 2: Okay, what gentleman's wager? One dollar?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not gentlemen. Gentlemen's wagers no money, all right,
Speaker 1: But I reacted too big when I saw it. I
Speaker 1: also forgot if it was the clubs or space.
Speaker 3: That's what the camera's for. So yeah, that one's a
Speaker 3: real sucker bet. Yeah, you want to know how it's done.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I do. Okay, so then we'll
Speaker 3: move right on. That's how you win twenty bucks or
Speaker 3: one dollar in your case. No, gentleman's bet is always
Speaker 3: is no money trading places.
Speaker 2: Gentlemen's bet. What did Harry Potter mean to you? Dude?
Speaker 2: It's great, I mean so good for magic and my son.
Speaker 1: We just finished reading the first book. Oh really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so torn because of her politics, you know. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: I'm just torn. She really doesn't get into it in
Speaker 1: the book. I mean no, I know it'd be great
Speaker 1: if she got into pronouns in the book.
Speaker 2: Howld is your son?
Speaker 3: Maybe you should go to that six? Oh perfect, we talk,
Speaker 3: he listen. What about cruise ships? Do you ever work
Speaker 3: on a cruise ship?
Speaker 2: Oh? I would love to.
Speaker 3: I got offered a really bad contract once for Carnival
Speaker 3: and I turned it down. It was like six months
Speaker 3: and I get like two weeks off and it paid
Speaker 3: but not enough to make.
Speaker 2: It worth it.
Speaker 3: But are there's some guys that have the great you
Speaker 3: know bookings where they go for like two weeks to
Speaker 3: go to Greece and do a couple of shows to
Speaker 3: come back, Like that's the that's the gig.
Speaker 2: You want.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never been on a cruise or or
Speaker 1: performed on one either.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I was on the Nightmare cruise, the one the power
Speaker 3: went out and then we were just drifting in the ocean.
Speaker 1: And you were on that cruise, Yeah, just for pleasure.
Speaker 2: No, there was a magic convention on the cruise. Oh,
Speaker 2: magic isn't real? Look at that?
Speaker 1: Or was it just too much magic that caused the
Speaker 1: power out?
Speaker 2: I think it was too much magic. How long was
Speaker 2: the power out? We were out there for about like
Speaker 2: two or three days something like that.
Speaker 1: And how did they and how did they remedy the problem?
Speaker 2: I forgot. Oh they got like twenty tug boats from
Speaker 2: the area to tug the ship to the nearest port.
Speaker 2: I think San Diego.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, were you like that's it, I'll never
Speaker 1: do this again. Was it miserable or did you have
Speaker 1: a good time? I'm regardless.
Speaker 3: I had fun because it was a magic convention at
Speaker 3: the same time. So I'm with all my heroes like
Speaker 3: that are on this cruise with me, and we're all
Speaker 3: in it together, and I just thought it was so exhilarating.
Speaker 1: What about the food did they still could they prepare
Speaker 1: food for everyone.
Speaker 3: No, the food immediately went bad. That's the first thing
Speaker 3: that went bad. And we had the craziest food.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: I had a white bread sandwich with just one beat
Speaker 3: on it, just like in the middle of a beat,
Speaker 3: like a slice of a beat, like a canned beat.
Speaker 3: That was like some of the sandwiches they were putting
Speaker 3: out like they were out of everything everything that could
Speaker 3: you sue them?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Well, the military air dropped in like pop tarts and
Speaker 3: like stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but why wouldn't you sue them? Oh, because
Speaker 2: they gave us another free cruise and a night in
Speaker 2: the hotel. They gave us a bunch of shops, so
Speaker 2: you're gonna get that regardless, plus sue them.
Speaker 1: You don't give me a you don't give me a
Speaker 1: piece of bread or a beat, and then say, oh,
Speaker 1: we're even Steven's. That's permanently stressed. That stresses me out.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't even on that ship. You should have
Speaker 1: just jumped over right away, just jumped.
Speaker 3: Over like I'm fucking out of here, walk the plank
Speaker 3: and they're like, what why they got jump?
Speaker 1: I don't know, throw them a dinghy? Do you really
Speaker 1: consider la to be the best city for magicians.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would make that argument personally. Yeah, but you
Speaker 3: could argue some any big city almost. But the Magic
Speaker 3: Castle alone, like really takes La to the next level.
Speaker 1: It draws magicians from everywhere to move here.
Speaker 2: They call it the Mecca of magic. For sure, it does.
Speaker 1: I've never referred to La as the mecca of magic,
Speaker 1: but I might start. There's not a lot of magicians
Speaker 1: now leaving La for Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2: More so during the pandemic. Explain to people what this,
Speaker 2: what the whole thing is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a private nightclub for magicians, open in the sixties,
Speaker 3: I believe, and you have to audition to join as
Speaker 3: a magician member.
Speaker 2: I joined as a Jinger member. So they have a.
Speaker 3: Program for thirteen to twenty year olds, so I was
Speaker 3: of seventeen eighteen when I joined.
Speaker 1: That they allow thirteen year olds to hang out in
Speaker 1: this cool Hollywood castle, and that seems that seems dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is dangerous. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't let your kids go there if you don't
Speaker 3: want them to become magicians, filthy magicians.
Speaker 1: If you want to go to the Magic Castle and
Speaker 1: watch a show, you can't. You have to be a member.
Speaker 1: How's it work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be invited by a member or
Speaker 3: be a member. And how much does it cost to
Speaker 3: be a member? It depends there's a magician membership, in
Speaker 3: a non magician membership.
Speaker 2: Magician membership, what's that cost? I think five K maybe
Speaker 2: eight k something like that a year. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: And then the food is just mediocre at best or
Speaker 1: is it good?
Speaker 3: Are you a real food snob? Yes, then mediocre at best, sir.
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty good, but maybe I'm using.
Speaker 1: My wife recently went. She with a group of girls
Speaker 1: and they were torn. There was half of them were
Speaker 1: civilized in the other half were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. But I don't it's confusing. They're just
Speaker 1: like eating shrimp cocktail in a small room. I went
Speaker 1: there once with teller. Cool, just me and tell her
Speaker 1: what Yeah your friends with teller? No okay, but I
Speaker 1: mean friendly. Let me tell you something. Wouldn't shut up?
Speaker 1: That sounds about right, shut up. I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: would be nice. This is this guy's gonna be quiet.
Speaker 1: Wasn't quiet at all.
Speaker 2: He had ideas, man, he had ideas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen him. Letually they call him the smartest
Speaker 3: man of magic. Actually, oh do they did he write that?
Speaker 3: Not that I know of. I'm not too close to them.
Speaker 3: Unfortunate you got to introduce us.
Speaker 1: I'll introduce you, and then I'll walk away quickly. Talk
Speaker 1: about some of the celebrities you performed magic for.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, uh.
Speaker 3: Probably one of my favorite experiences had to be Tarantino.
Speaker 3: I was working at the Magic Castle. It was his birthday,
Speaker 3: I found out. So this is late in the week.
Speaker 3: I'm working at the Parlor of Pressed Digitation, the seventy
Speaker 3: seat theater Riac seating. Before the show starts, the host
Speaker 3: comes up to me. They run the room and introduce me,
Speaker 3: and they said, hey, Quentin Tarantino is going to be
Speaker 3: the next show with his group like twelve. People don't
Speaker 3: bring them on stage. It's his birthday, but they don't
Speaker 3: want to go on stage.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Quentin Tarantino for his birth birthdays, like I
Speaker 1: want to go watch magic and get wasted. Mm hmm okay,
Speaker 1: all right, probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the latter first, and then we do the show.
Speaker 3: And there's actually a new bit in that show where
Speaker 3: I open up my briefcase and all this red light
Speaker 3: pours out on me and I'm just getting stuff in
Speaker 3: and out of it the whole show, but it's totally
Speaker 3: like a pulp fiction kind of reference. And then the
Speaker 3: show before that too, the Palace of Mystery, they were
Speaker 3: using the kill Bill Whistle song, and he thought that
Speaker 3: we had planned this whole night for his birthday, just
Speaker 3: like that. When he was watching the show too, he
Speaker 3: was a really good audience member. He was always leaning
Speaker 3: forward in his seat, smile ear to ear. I thought
Speaker 3: he was gonna yell cut any time, like he was
Speaker 3: in it to win it. But yeah, after the show,
Speaker 3: he thought it was all for him, and he's We
Speaker 3: told each other, we're big fans of each other.
Speaker 2: I hope he remembers that. I doubt it, though, do a.
Speaker 1: Trick if you'd like to, If you got something that
Speaker 1: I could see.
Speaker 2: Don't temp me with a good time. I'll show you
Speaker 2: my favorite one.
Speaker 3: So I was actually looking for a card to represent you,
Speaker 3: just based on the time we've got to know each other,
Speaker 3: just from your energy being Well, you've never done tarot reading,
Speaker 3: it's not that far off, all right, No, I've never
Speaker 3: done a tarot reading. Okay, you live in La No,
Speaker 3: I'm not that guy.
Speaker 2: Let's go what am I doing?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I made a couple of predictions. I normally
Speaker 3: would just do one, but you have a lot of layers,
Speaker 3: so I'm making four cardination for you. All right, Can
Speaker 3: you think of a number one to ten? You don't
Speaker 3: have to tell me, but if you see a matching number,
Speaker 3: go and pull it out. So if you thought of
Speaker 3: a ten, you'd pull out of ten.
Speaker 2: I understand what matching means. Okay, I work with a lot.
Speaker 3: Of drunk people, and then show the camera, show over
Speaker 3: any carriers. Shouldn't take too long. And once you got that,
Speaker 3: go and put it back face down in a face
Speaker 3: of deck. That makes it easier down. Yeah, that makes
Speaker 3: it easier for me. I appreciate early morning.
Speaker 2: It seems ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Peop always wonder what does your card have to do
Speaker 3: with the predictions from earlier? Well, all those give me
Speaker 3: clues as to the type of person you are underneath
Speaker 3: the mask, so to speak.
Speaker 1: For example, are you left or right handed? I am
Speaker 1: right handed, but I throw a frisbee left handed.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I'm the opposite. I'm left hand.
Speaker 3: I do this yeah, okay, with that, that makes a
Speaker 3: little bit harder, but I'll tell you what. The first
Speaker 3: card is going to tell me how much therapy you've
Speaker 3: done and how well it's worked in your heart?
Speaker 2: What color is it? Red or black? It's very red?
Speaker 2: Nice work.
Speaker 3: You pretend like everything's dour and you're jaded, but you
Speaker 3: are living the life, irn't ship. The next one tells
Speaker 3: me are you well rounded or you're sharp? And I
Speaker 3: can see you're a very well rounded individual, of course,
Speaker 3: the best people are. And then the third one will
Speaker 3: tell me how confident you are, and that's pretty rock solid, dude,
Speaker 3: not bad, got your own podcasts and everything. The last
Speaker 3: one will tell me, most importantly, how kind you are.
Speaker 3: That's the most important metric, right, Yes, on a scale
Speaker 3: from one to ten, you are a Oh.
Speaker 2: You hear that? Well? I only say that because I
Speaker 2: wasn't able to quite narrow it down.
Speaker 3: Actually between the four kings, which one best represents you
Speaker 3: as a person? And people always wonder what does these
Speaker 3: cards have to do with the one that you picked?
Speaker 3: You remember which one you picked?
Speaker 2: If I remember correctly, you put a card face down
Speaker 2: in the deck and it happened to be a four.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, right? What a four? No? You sure? Yes?
Speaker 2: I'm sure I don't mess us up.
Speaker 3: But it's always the four Kings at this point, and
Speaker 3: the one that I thought represented you, Daniel, that was
Speaker 3: always the six of Hearts.
Speaker 2: You like that, don't you.
Speaker 1: I'm you just have to just and I'm not somebody
Speaker 1: that watches that and tries to figure it out in
Speaker 1: any way. I know I'm not going to figure this out.
Speaker 1: Let's just watch and enjoy. Look at that. That's the
Speaker 1: way ridiculous. Well, I thank you, one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: You imagine imagine being able to do that with cards.
Speaker 2: I always tell people you're just born with it. The
Speaker 2: problem with magic, too is so much reading and homework. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then you got to read it and reread it.
Speaker 3: And I mean, to make a trick like in your repertoire,
Speaker 3: it has to become a part of your soul. I'm
Speaker 3: sure it's like that with good comedy material, no, no,
Speaker 3: not you bone.
Speaker 1: You can stumble across a good like I can be
Speaker 1: on stage and I can just stumble into a joke
Speaker 1: that works. It's rare on stage for a magician to
Speaker 1: just be like, I'm just gonna see what happens here
Speaker 1: and just try to improvise magic.
Speaker 2: It can happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's certain schools of technique. That's solely
Speaker 3: a thing.
Speaker 1: My wife was brought on stage at Copperfield show when
Speaker 1: she was a child, not a child, but like thirteen.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I of how old was she.
Speaker 2: I think she was like thirteen. I think she's at thirteen.
Speaker 2: How does he know? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He because he fucking loves Copperfield, So it was like
Speaker 1: fascinated by the story and he knows the trick that
Speaker 1: she did. It was a floating row.
Speaker 2: I know that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So and then and then she she tried
Speaker 1: to what she.
Speaker 2: Tried to do Pete. She reached out to touch She.
Speaker 1: Tried to reach out and touch it. He swatted her hand,
Speaker 1: and and and then and then after that she did
Speaker 1: she got her ticket canceled. She was supposed to go
Speaker 1: to the Bahamas? What with him? Can we do the
Speaker 1: floating mint? You guys, did you want to see this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We could do the floating mint?
Speaker 3: What do I have to do? Those are the worst mints?
Speaker 3: Do you have any mints? Do you have the fresh Maker?
Speaker 2: No? I'd like it like an Altoid.
Speaker 3: Maybe mentosa. I don't an altoids float or do you
Speaker 3: need a hole in the middle float? They're just smaller.
Speaker 3: This plays better?
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, let's do this. What do you want me
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 2: I want you to pick one and open one.
Speaker 1: Am I touching something that's gonna go in your mouth?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Anyway, this is how a magician eats. A minute.
Speaker 2: If I stand for this, do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 2: Carl's nervous about this trick. Here we go. Carl the
Speaker 2: dog is nervous about the trek. Uh huh. He fucking
Speaker 2: hates magic. I did mean a dog that hated cards.
Speaker 3: I think he was like one of those like hurting
Speaker 3: dogs something about cards.
Speaker 2: You like peacocks? Oh you like peacocks for real? Though?
Speaker 2: Way is here? Wait? Did you pluck that off a peacock?
Speaker 2: By chance? So? I grew up in a little town
Speaker 2: called Arcadie. Maybe you heard of it?
Speaker 1: And okay, yeah, there's this off my table.
Speaker 2: There's peacocks. There's peacocks in.
Speaker 3: My neighborhood here there are? Yeah, no way, they're loud
Speaker 3: as fuck. That's right, sweet peacock. Well, you have peacocks
Speaker 3: in your town, you got to get you a feather
Speaker 3: for your pocket square feather.
Speaker 2: I'm not wearing a feather.
Speaker 3: In like fifty years when your when your shirt is modernized,
Speaker 3: then you could have a peacock feather in there.
Speaker 2: I put this on specifically for you.
Speaker 3: You knew my seventies kink.
Speaker 1: It felt like it was like a magician could wear
Speaker 1: a shirt like this.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a little warmon here, so you know it'd
Speaker 3: be nice and breathable. I like that about it. Is
Speaker 3: that like rayon or like.
Speaker 2: A Oh, I don't think it's rayon. It's nice and light.
Speaker 2: It is. It is nice. It's got a little shine
Speaker 2: too it I thought. Listen. I tried.
Speaker 1: I tried to coordinate fuck Mary, kill David Blaine, Chris Angel,
Speaker 1: David Copperfield.
Speaker 2: Fuck Chris Angel, Mary, David Blaine and killed David Copperfield. Wow,
Speaker 2: what about you? I don't know. I think I was.
Speaker 2: I was with you. No, I'm not going to marry
Speaker 2: David Blaine.
Speaker 3: Marry for money. You can get the copper fielder out.
Speaker 3: Probably you'd be taken care of.
Speaker 2: That'd be nice.
Speaker 3: I want to go to that eye. Have you seen
Speaker 3: every magicians show?
Speaker 2: Every magician is a big oa, like the big you've
Speaker 2: seen the Big Guy. I haven't seen Matt Frankle yet.
Speaker 2: I heard it's phenomenal. I heard it's the best show
Speaker 2: on the strip, but I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: You might be too young, But did you ever see
Speaker 1: Amazing Jonathan in his heyday not live?
Speaker 2: I've seen the recordings, I've met him a few times.
Speaker 2: I mean he was good. Yeah, he's a comic, he's
Speaker 2: a real comic.
Speaker 1: He's he was the one comic magician that that like
Speaker 1: bridged the gap because comics loved him and magicians knew
Speaker 1: that he was legit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember one time Chris Angel did a thing and
Speaker 1: it was annoying the shit out of him, but Amazing
Speaker 1: Jonathan kept taking Chris's watch and Chris wasn't catching it
Speaker 1: and it was fucking killing me.
Speaker 2: Legend. Ah, So good is Chris Angel good or no? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think he's good? Is he? I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk in the community, but I.
Speaker 1: Stopped I as soon as fucking the chains that that look.
Speaker 1: I'm not like, don't, I don't. I can't watch that look.
Speaker 2: Mind for you kid, like six or eight seasons or something,
Speaker 2: I don't care. It's a lot of work man.
Speaker 1: No I'm saying. I'm not saying he wasn't successful. I
Speaker 1: don't want to look at him. Let's talk about looks. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: when did you say that? This is my thing? I'm
Speaker 1: doing the mustache. I'm growing that thing out in Lockdown.
Speaker 1: I was going full cave man.
Speaker 3: And then I got cast on an episode of Jubilee
Speaker 3: Find the False Magician some it's big YouTube channel, okay,
Speaker 3: and my manager is like, Jeff, what are you doing, shave.
Speaker 2: I'm like, let me try the mustache. Just let me
Speaker 2: try it.
Speaker 3: So I was able to try it, and then all
Speaker 3: the comments to mention me we're talking about the mustache,
Speaker 3: and I was like see, and he's like, all right, now.
Speaker 2: You got to keep it. Oh geez, you don't have to.
Speaker 3: You know what the best part about it is no
Speaker 3: girls will tell you immediately if they love it or
Speaker 3: hate it.
Speaker 2: It saves so much time to it. Well, it's polarizing,
Speaker 2: and the few that love it, you're in though. All right,
Speaker 2: we got to go to Silver Lake and that's all
Speaker 2: you need. Closer the Malibu good for you?
Speaker 1: Rank these movies about magic, the prestige, Now you see me,
Speaker 1: the incredible Bert Wonderstone and.
Speaker 3: The Illusionists by I don't know, it doesn't count for anything. No, okay,
Speaker 3: that's off the list.
Speaker 1: We want to put him in the Illusions is fine,
Speaker 1: We'll put the Illusionists in.
Speaker 3: Sweet Prestige would be number one, illusionst number two, Bert
Speaker 3: one to some number three. Do you like Bert Wonderstone? Oh,
Speaker 3: now you see me? It's not on the list for me.
Speaker 2: Did you see it? Yeah, it's amazing. They made rain
Speaker 2: go up. I hate it. They made Rain go by
Speaker 2: the way, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure now you
Speaker 2: see me?
Speaker 1: Has another one coming out right now?
Speaker 2: They do? They do? That's good for magic. It's good
Speaker 2: for magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I like magic when it's in movies
Speaker 1: because the tricks can be so much bigger because they
Speaker 1: don't have to be real at all.
Speaker 3: I hate how it raises the expectations for magicians and
Speaker 3: it's like, bro, I'm not going to be in a
Speaker 3: giant bubble floating around the audience or whatever, like come.
Speaker 1: On, Yeah, that's true. But making Rain Go Up was
Speaker 1: really neat. I thought that is cool. Hot snow falling up?
Speaker 1: You don't don't you ever taught that movie?
Speaker 2: Is great? Oh? Man? Wow, you don't like magic be
Speaker 2: like that movie. I love it. I love it's your favorite.
Speaker 2: The first of the second one. The second one was
Speaker 2: the rain one. I don't think I've bothered to watch
Speaker 2: the second one.
Speaker 1: Oh well, then you are you not gonna see the
Speaker 1: third one?
Speaker 2: Though? I wasn't playing. Based on this conversation, I will
Speaker 2: now you said you grew.
Speaker 1: Up watching magic specials on Fox. Yeah, Fox aired Breaking
Speaker 1: the Magician's Code. Did you regret supporting the Masked Magician?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I found out that a lot of the stuff he
Speaker 3: reveals is like some BS explanation that he didn't really
Speaker 3: give away the real secrets. In a lot of cases,
Speaker 3: somebody did. But I mean, honestly, who remembers the methods
Speaker 3: these days? If you saw it back then, like what
Speaker 3: do you remember? And anyway, it's good for magic. I
Speaker 3: think it's just any publicity type of thing. Will you
Speaker 3: tell people how a trick is done? I've done it
Speaker 3: before for a price. So if I do a really
Speaker 3: good magic trick for your table, let's say, and then
Speaker 3: you're like, hey, how do you do that?
Speaker 2: I go, oh, everyone's got a price.
Speaker 3: I did that one time in this drunk guy He's like,
Speaker 3: how about one thousand dollars and I'm like, yeah, he
Speaker 3: starts counting hundreds on.
Speaker 2: The table, and you did it for a thout. You
Speaker 2: gave it to him. I taught it to him.
Speaker 1: I gave it a little bit of your magic. Soul
Speaker 1: died that.
Speaker 2: Night, Yes exactly. It was the worth it.
Speaker 1: There's no chance he remembered. The thing is, you can
Speaker 1: tell me how a trick works. That doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: can do the trick.
Speaker 3: No, not at all. I told him he hit me
Speaker 3: up for his zoom lesson or something. If you want
Speaker 3: to go over it. He didn't give a care Like
Speaker 3: he couldn't care less.
Speaker 1: When I first started doing stand up comedy in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, another open mic friend of mine was a
Speaker 1: magician and we just hung out all the time, just
Speaker 1: the two. And I don't even remember his name. That
Speaker 1: speaks more about those times. Yeah, we were fun, we
Speaker 1: hung out, We had good times. He might be listening
Speaker 1: to this to this day and I maybe he's successful,
Speaker 1: maybe he's killed himself. But here's what I remember the
Speaker 1: most about him. One time he changed in front of
Speaker 1: me and he had the sexiest underwear on, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you wearing.
Speaker 2: We go into the details.
Speaker 1: I guess I would only describe it as like a
Speaker 1: European like bikini thing, and I go, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is wrong with you? And he's like, no, man, this
Speaker 1: is for for the chicks. Chicks like love sexy underwear.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, magicians are fucking weird.
Speaker 2: That was my take from it.
Speaker 1: You just remember his underwear.
Speaker 3: Ah, that take away completely fair by the way they
Speaker 3: are weird.
Speaker 2: But what you never tried silk underwear before? It on
Speaker 2: ireat yourself. You wear silk.
Speaker 3: Underwear sometimes, I say, I get it hot. I'm always
Speaker 3: wearing layers right when I'm working, I get hot, man.
Speaker 3: And you know I'm a bigger guy. So I found
Speaker 3: that silk underwear breathes the best. It doesn't cling to you.
Speaker 3: It just like wants to not touch you. And it's
Speaker 3: just airflow.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I see so me bringing this up, you didn't believe it.
Speaker 3: We go, I know I'm getting new for Christmas. You
Speaker 3: own a top hat?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 1: Is it a magic hat or is it just just
Speaker 1: a nice hat to wear?
Speaker 3: It was a nice hat to wear that I've poured
Speaker 3: cake batter in and it's disgusting now.
Speaker 2: But it looks like a top hat. Does it smell? No? No,
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Oh how do you clean cake batter out of a hat?
Speaker 2: I just discovered white vinegar. Maybe I'll try that the smell.
Speaker 2: I don't like the smell of white vinegar. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't either, but you delude it. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just listening. I appreciate what you're saying. I'm a
Speaker 2: single guy. I'm trying to make things work.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be a single guy?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm enjoying it, but I would like to
Speaker 2: get married. Uh huh. How's the married life? I love it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love but I was designed to be married.
Speaker 1: But I also love that I didn't get married, like
Speaker 1: at year age. I waited till it's forty at least
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 3: Were you worried about like you marry someone and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, now you're walking on pins and
Speaker 3: needles and it's no fun, excellent stuff.
Speaker 2: You've never worried about that. No.
Speaker 1: I made sure I married somebody that I knew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've hatted them? Well, okay, I mean yeah, I
Speaker 2: knew her for years and years. She'd heard all the stories.
Speaker 2: That's what it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the biggest difference between abracadabra and Ali Kazam?
Speaker 3: Abercadabra is a real I think it's a Hebrew word. Oh,
Speaker 3: and it means I create as I speak.
Speaker 1: So see right right there, the interview worth it, right,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, like that was I never
Speaker 1: in a million years did I know that that was
Speaker 1: a Hebrew word that.
Speaker 2: Meant what does it mean? I created as I speak?
Speaker 1: I create as I speak. Abracadabra and Ali Kazam. I
Speaker 1: think that's just Shaquille O'Neal invented it. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: in Chao. Did you like Shazam? What do you think
Speaker 1: of Harry Houdini.
Speaker 3: He's the most famous magician of all time. He worked
Speaker 3: super hard to create the What was.
Speaker 2: He to me?
Speaker 1: An outsider? Of course, he seemed like a stunt man. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: is that fair or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He created that for himself. Yeah, and then he
Speaker 2: took Then he how'd he die? He got punched in
Speaker 2: the stomach when he wasn't ready, ruptured his spleen, I
Speaker 2: think yes, And then he did the show with a
Speaker 2: ruptured spleen.
Speaker 3: And then they were taken to the hospital. After when
Speaker 3: he died. But if he didn't do the show, he
Speaker 3: would have lived. Show must go on, see it doesn't.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to go on because sometimes I have
Speaker 3: to go diarrhea. And you know what Pete does instead
Speaker 3: of bringing me up the bucket, just fucking puts music
Speaker 3: back on.
Speaker 2: Wait, you don't keep a bucket behind the stage. Show.
Speaker 1: God, everybody that's on the show gets gifts. What It's
Speaker 1: just stuff that I was laying around my house. Then
Speaker 1: I give it to you because I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 1: It's never it's never good stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: First thing I want you to have is a cable.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is from if it's an adults, No.
Speaker 1: It's an adult. It's my son's.
Speaker 3: Ah cool, cool, cool, cool as this.
Speaker 1: Eddie bought my son this. It's a magic kit. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, my kid's not it's too much. He's got
Speaker 1: too many magic kids two hundred. I don't know there's
Speaker 1: stuff in there. Wow you know wait, oh it was
Speaker 1: my son's thumb.
Speaker 2: You know. You give this to somebody, they'll love it.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: Look at this. This is what Eddie buys my kid. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me, in what world do you think I have
Speaker 1: a DVD player. I don't have a DVD player.
Speaker 2: Had a little outdated and what else do you need?
Speaker 2: Look at this? What is this?
Speaker 1: Oh wait a second, let's say it's got a trapdoor
Speaker 1: in it?
Speaker 2: Whoa exposure? My fault? Do you want to see my wand?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have your own wand I brought my own.
Speaker 2: Wand and my bag of tricks? Remember that? Holy shit?
Speaker 1: Am I I'm not reaching out? Am I supposed touch it?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: No bullshit? That will be powers that transfer.
Speaker 2: If it'll let you touch it? Yeah? Yeah, why what
Speaker 2: is who can what does this do? Not?
Speaker 3: Does this turning it into anything? You make it flowers? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a stick, but it's uh And my friend a
Speaker 3: Codo made this by hand though, and it's like made
Speaker 3: out of ironwood, so it sinks in water, this wood.
Speaker 3: And I've dropped it in the pool before an accident
Speaker 3: and networks and then.
Speaker 2: What can you swim? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Luckily it fell in a shallow part of the pool.
Speaker 3: I was at a gig and I was able to
Speaker 3: reach and grab it. But that was pure luck. And
Speaker 3: then the outside you know what that material is on
Speaker 3: the outside, I don't all right, So this is a
Speaker 3: baseball stitch just on a baseball, but that leather is
Speaker 3: actually a stingwray leather m Yeah. Yeah, it's one of
Speaker 3: the most durable exotic leathers. It's covered in calcium nodules
Speaker 3: because they kill the sting ray just to make your
Speaker 3: wand no nos.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have to go.
Speaker 1: You have to go wait for a stingray to shed
Speaker 1: or do you have to go peel them?
Speaker 2: How does it work? Yeah, it's like a reverse skin draft.
Speaker 2: To think about.
Speaker 1: This hat won't close. There's springs in it. There's weird
Speaker 1: stuff going on in here. It's trapped doors. I can
Speaker 1: feel stuff in here. Whatever, take this off. Just this
Speaker 1: is your I just want you to own my son's
Speaker 1: magic hit.
Speaker 2: You get all this off the desk's garbage. This is nice.
Speaker 1: This you're gonna love my My manager gave this to
Speaker 1: me recently. Okay, is something up your sleeve? Rightok at this?
Speaker 1: Where do you see this jacket? It's kind of like
Speaker 1: a snuggie but it's different. You're gonna love this. Here
Speaker 1: you go, there, you go. Put this on next time
Speaker 1: you're cold. I know you're warm right now.
Speaker 2: Try this for a second. Is this down? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess this isn't here. Here's your there's your you
Speaker 3: wear you wear? No, no, that's that's the wrongest thing.
Speaker 2: That arm okay a normal one. Okay, yeah, now put
Speaker 2: that around. Oh wow, this is such a around. You're
Speaker 2: gonna love it all right. Where do you see this jacket?
Speaker 3: The magic that you can do in this I'm telling
Speaker 3: you it's perfect for magic. Got a nice boxy shape
Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, yeah, you'll feel flattering.
Speaker 2: You kind of to be honest with that with it, you.
Speaker 1: Look like like somebody that would teach martial arts.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love this jacket. I am gonna love this
Speaker 2: jacket while your manager really hooks it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hated it never never once wore it. Okay,
Speaker 1: take that off.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 3: I'm still it's too hot. It's too hot in here.
Speaker 3: You're gonna burn up.
Speaker 1: I have ideas for you, yes, okay, we're just collaborating
Speaker 1: here for for making the act a bigger No pun
Speaker 1: intended with bigger. But have you thought about having an assistant?
Speaker 2: I just had.
Speaker 3: I have done it on several occasions, including this past Saturday.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my pitch for an assistant. It's and I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a fat joke. I would like a
Speaker 1: large man as an assistant. I want him to dress
Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous. I also want him to be painfully bad,
Speaker 1: where you're having to fight with him and argue constantly.
Speaker 1: At some point you might even tell him, you know what,
Speaker 1: just sit in the audience you're this is this show
Speaker 1: is worse because of you, and then just bring somebody
Speaker 1: else up and let them be your assistant. But I
Speaker 1: do I like the idea of not the typical woman.
Speaker 1: I just I like a big man dressed silly. I
Speaker 1: like him being funny. I can be in too loud,
Speaker 1: you know, not knowing his role. This is this is
Speaker 1: my comedy angle into magic that I would find enjoyable.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like a buff guy in a vest
Speaker 3: and he's super loyal to me and like has a
Speaker 3: very simple way of speaking.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're just trying to fulfill some weird fantasy from
Speaker 1: high school.
Speaker 3: But I want him to do a ritual before every trick,
Speaker 3: like he's like, and then the assistant has to clean
Speaker 3: it up and it gets more elaborate and more messy
Speaker 3: every trick, and THESS like, oh, come on, I.
Speaker 1: Like this big guy that you tell to get into
Speaker 1: a box and he's like, I can't get in that box,
Speaker 1: Like there's no physical way.
Speaker 2: Do assistants want to be magicians?
Speaker 3: Most don't, Some do eventually when they are rounded enough.
Speaker 3: I think usually they're dancers or actresses or something, so
Speaker 3: they just kind of will.
Speaker 1: Kind of dancer.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, if you're an illusionist and you've got
Speaker 2: them going in your illusions and cutting them in half
Speaker 2: and stuff, you want to petite dancer, probably because they
Speaker 2: just start gonna be the most pliable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pliable, and they can slot in. They can fit
Speaker 3: in anything. They're not gonna break your stuff because they're
Speaker 3: too heavy or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right child, Are you allowed to use a child or
Speaker 1: their rules against that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? People you will use their kids if you know
Speaker 2: they have kids, or you know why you use somebody
Speaker 2: else's kid.
Speaker 1: I don't want to cut my own kid in half,
Speaker 1: but there's a few of his friends I wouldn't mind
Speaker 1: fucking they're gonna whack at. How many magicians use identical
Speaker 1: twins for assistance Not too many, because I feel like
Speaker 1: you could pull off some real cool tricks that.
Speaker 3: Way, and not regularly that I know of. But that
Speaker 3: story in the prestige, for example, about the magician being
Speaker 3: a twin.
Speaker 2: That's real. Stop bringing up the prestige. You open Pandora's box.
Speaker 2: I can't. Oh wait, that's right, I brought up prestige
Speaker 2: my fault.
Speaker 1: I appreciate magic. I appreciate the amount of time that
Speaker 1: it takes to become good at it. It's the same
Speaker 1: way I feel about stand up comedy. I would never
Speaker 1: go see it.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of overlap. I can't understand where you're
Speaker 2: coming from.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just I'm not gonna go see stand up comedy.
Speaker 1: That's how I've always felt about my profession. I've secretly
Speaker 1: been embarrassed by it.
Speaker 2: Sure I've been there. I hear you. But there are
Speaker 2: people that I'm sure you would love to see. You know,
Speaker 2: you have heroes in comedy.
Speaker 1: None I do, And when I get to see them,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness, they're amazing. Same with magicians
Speaker 1: that I see. Magicians that do think, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is the most impressive thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: But when I'm at home at four or five pm
Speaker 1: and I'm planning the night, Magic's not hitting the list
Speaker 1: fair enough.
Speaker 3: It is for you gotta be pretty nerdy to be
Speaker 3: into it like that. Well, listen, thank you for being
Speaker 3: on the show. I appreciate it. And you know I
Speaker 3: can't wait for my next birthday party.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you. Don't tell me what a good time? Huh,
Speaker 2: We'll do it. Thank you, cheers, Thank you, Pasha.
Speaker 1: I want to thank Jeff for being on the show.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Jeff turned into my dog Carl. You like
Speaker 1: magic Carl.
Speaker 2: Hmm?
Speaker 1: You like that one peanut butter trick we do.
Speaker 4: That's not a trick.
Speaker 2: He loves it. He loves it all right.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think should we do our plugs
Speaker 1: tossshowstore dot com. Hey, by the way, I saw somebody
Speaker 1: at my last show with the Carl shirt on, and
Speaker 1: I gave him a right up front. Okay, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of tours coming up.
Speaker 2: Eddies.
Speaker 1: Eddie's on tour with me and without me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be all over the Midwest. I'm excited about that. And
Speaker 1: when I go to the Midwest, oh man, let me
Speaker 1: tell you all the activities I'm gonna do. Kansas City,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna get some barbecue, Omaha, gonna
Speaker 1: go to the College World Series with my father in law. Okay, Minneapolis,
Speaker 1: might go to them All America to the Nickelodeon Middle
Speaker 1: with my son. What ill I do in Milwaukee? I'll
Speaker 1: probably runt a Harley Davidson.
Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah, aren't they from Milwaukee? Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1: Then Madison. Guess what I'm gonna do? Mushrooms? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: do mushrooms with the college kids. Yep, hang out with
Speaker 1: the college kids. Do some mushrooms. Then heading over to Chicago.
Speaker 1: Guess I'm gonna do there. I'll pop in on the Pope,
Speaker 1: say hi to him. Then I'm going to avenge my
Speaker 1: father's beating. My father got jumped when he was like
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty years old when he was visiting Chicago,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna find those guys and I'm gonna beat
Speaker 1: the shit out of them. Now they're probably in their
Speaker 1: eighties or dead, but uh, I'm gonna fit. It's a
Speaker 1: cold case. Well they never found who did it. A
Speaker 1: couple fellas, uh took my dad's money and beat him,
Speaker 1: beat him real good. He's always hated, uh the Cubs.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a diehard Cardinals fan, but uh, I
Speaker 1: always hated them extra special because of that beating. I
Speaker 1: think one of them might have had a Cubs hat on.
Speaker 1: It sounds like White Sox behavior, but I think I
Speaker 1: think one of them was a Cubs fan. We'll get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of it. Daddy, all right? You should
Speaker 1: we do that?
Speaker 2: You don't? I called my father dad.
Speaker 4: As her daddy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna venge his beating. I'm gonna venge his beating.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's time for our free plug, So
Speaker 1: let's hit the music.
Speaker 3: There you go, all right? I don't want that music
Speaker 3: to stop, you know what, Let him play it, Let
Speaker 3: him play a little longer.
Speaker 2: You like it? It's good, right?
Speaker 1: You know kind of what genre would you say that?
Speaker 2: Uh? What do they call that? Big swing? Is that
Speaker 2: what that's called a big swing? That's big swing? I
Speaker 2: like it? Cat all right?
Speaker 3: This free plug, ladies, get ready to flick your beans.
Speaker 1: I really got to read these free plugs before.
Speaker 2: Are you sure? What is this? Ladies?
Speaker 1: Get ready to flick your beans to an all male review?
Speaker 1: Because May twentieth, it's Girls' night out the show at
Speaker 1: the Milk Parlor in Blacksburg, Virginia. Whoa a male review?
Speaker 1: H that's tonight?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Whether you're celebrating a birthday, bachelorette, divorce, or you're dirty thirty,
Speaker 1: don't miss the most exciting ladies night out of the year.
Speaker 1: Also exciting, we'll be watching groups of girls split the
Speaker 1: check at.
Speaker 2: The end of the night. That's the real thing.
Speaker 1: Oh that's always fun. Ah a mail review. I've never
Speaker 1: been to a mail review. You been to one?
Speaker 2: Nope? Mean neither.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there are they gonna allow touching at
Speaker 1: this one. I bet usually mail reviews they allow touching.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm going stripper club rules where you always
Speaker 1: have to keep your hands on your side. But I
Speaker 1: think I think male reviews they let you touch as
Speaker 1: much as you want.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: So show starts at eight and the doors open at seven,
Speaker 1: which gives you and your ladies an hour pound drinks
Speaker 1: and forget that you are married and live in Blacksburg.
Speaker 1: General admission tickets are nineteen ninety five, but if you
Speaker 1: want to be a VIP, and trust me you do,
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to pay thirty four to ninety five
Speaker 1: and enjoy the benefit of premium seats plus a meet
Speaker 1: and greet and a pick with the cast following the show. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not bad. If ever, you were going to want
Speaker 1: to do a meet and greet, this is it. It's
Speaker 1: the guy with the meat. Yeah, yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: get to pick with that's nice.
Speaker 2: The milk Parlor.
Speaker 3: It's located in uh, uh what is it? Two to
Speaker 3: one one Draper Road Northwest, which is right next to
Speaker 3: the armory. Is there a website that we can preview
Speaker 3: the boys?
Speaker 2: We can just go you're talking about a road trip
Speaker 2: on the road.
Speaker 1: I like this if we were broadcast live from the
Speaker 1: Girls Night Out, the show, you know they call us
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: I wonder if you know what you ought to do?
Speaker 1: There ought to be like another tier package where it
Speaker 1: guarantees that you get brought up on stage. You know,
Speaker 1: my wife and Pete's wife went to uh this show, uh.
Speaker 4: What was it called the Thunder from down Under?
Speaker 1: They were at Magic Mike in Las Vegas, and uh,
Speaker 1: Pete's wife Sam got brought up on stage and they
Speaker 1: they brought her up in the air and a harnessed
Speaker 1: and they asked her if she had any heart conditions,
Speaker 1: and she didn't. She had the time of her life.
Speaker 1: She came back sad as shit, eating grin on her
Speaker 1: face and I've never seen Pete more disappointed in his wife.
Speaker 1: He's just furious. I guess she didn't tell him that
Speaker 1: she was going. I knew because I have an honest
Speaker 1: relationship with my wife, but Pete, Pete was blindsided by Magic,
Speaker 1: Mike and the boys running a train on sweet Samantha.
Speaker 2: Uh well, anyway, see you next week.