WEBVTT - My Magic Guy - Jeff Black 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.119 Hey, guys, I have to remind you wherever you're listening 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.000 to this podcast to make sure that you rate it, 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.600 but rate it five stars. If you're gonna rate it 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.520 four stars, you know what, don't even bother five stars. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:13.840 Please also subscribe. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:14.880 That matters. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:20.440 Subscribe and rate but rate high you join the magic 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:24.000 club at your high school. Yeah, how much did you 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:24.600 guys get. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:35.440 Pashash sh Show. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.920 It's Toss show time. Good morning Eddie, Good morning Daniel, Eddie. Yeah, 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.879 you know that I was made in Germany, right, I 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.680 do know that? And you know that my favorite band 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.440 has always been Romstein. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:48.239 No, I don't know. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:57.480 Do ask me? Do hospit god? If? If not, God fly. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.360 I'm not familiar with Man, you don't like that song. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:02.960 I don't know that I don't like it. I'm not 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:03.600 familiar with. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:13.000 The hush hush me if not, I don't know the words. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:14.560 That's it. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.479 It's in though, it's I'm in the wheelhouse. Oh man, 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.680 you play that song? Nothing? Nothing gets gets me going. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:25.119 You can save your black coffee, give me some Ramstein. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.800 I'm in a good mood all right now. I don't 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.319 like to pat myself on the back too often, but 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.959 this this is this is one for the ages. The 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:41.080 other day, I'm with my daughter, I'm holding her. We 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.480 go into a coffee shop. Okay, I don't drink coffee. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.440 Getting a coffee for my wife. She didn't even ask 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.360 for it. I'm just picking her up on iced hazelnut 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.400 vanilla latte with oat milk. I don't know, I know 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.880 a version of what she likes. Anyway, I'm going in 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.960 there just to just to make her day a little brighter. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.560 I'm gonna pick her up a coffee. Now. In uh 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.600 the coffee shop, uh, waiting for their order were two 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:20.400 black men in their early twenties, and I'm gonna I'm 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.799 gonna say this is probably wrong, but I'm gonna say 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:23.800 very gay. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:25.280 You know. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:33.720 A lot of mannerisms. Dressed fabulous. Okay. One of them 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.080 looks me dead in the eye and goes, excuse me, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.280 are you a famous model? 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.240 Wow? Holy cow? 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.000 I almost dropped my child right. I was like, are 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:48.760 you kidding me? 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.800 I looked at it? Are you? I go? I go? 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.560 He just he just made my life. Now I am 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.280 not a famous model. And this is what he says 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.120 to me with no hesitation. After no, I'm not, he goes, well, 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:08.040 you've got that factor? Wow, how am I not supposed to? 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:09.800 And I know you're like, you know, we shouldn't care 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:14.560 about their sexual preference or or their race, but I care. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.200 And it made them so much cooler. And for them 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.760 to say, like, if some hillbilly looked at me and goes, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.720 you must be a famous model, I would be like, okay, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.959 I don't even know that I would report it. I 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.639 would be terrified that I was about ready to get 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.080 thrown the back of a pickup. But from these two, 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.960 who clearly knew style and fashion, to look at me 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.640 and just go oh like I was, I was floored. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.120 I couldn't believe it. You ever had you ever had 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:46.640 to do? Gay men come up to you and just 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.160 tell you how beautiful you are. I mean, I've never 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.880 injected heroin in the eye of my cock, but it's 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:58.400 got to be close. That's pretty neat. Well anyway, so 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.960 I'm in a great mood, so I thought what better 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.760 way to bring me down off my high then read 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:09.720 some of the comments, uh from our subscribers. Yeah, so Eddie, 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.560 go ahead, put me in a put me in a 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:12.040 foul mood. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:12.560 Let's see. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.080 This's is from the Sergio episode. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.160 Okay, Sergio, my my the builder of my home. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.680 Says great interview until he said he thinks Spain is 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.960 the best country in the world. Nothing like a rich 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.719 person working in the US, raising children in the US, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.279 and developing a life in the US than saying another country. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:34.240 Is all right, stop, stop done, I'm done. See and 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:34.599 that's it. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:35.239 That's it. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.000 It took it took you reading half of a comment 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.839 for me to realize that this was a horrible idea. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:47.200 Oh god, you fucking people are so stupid. You know, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.840 do you know you're stupid or do you think do 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.560 you think when you were hammering out that way too 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.160 long comment that you were like, hmm, I got him here. 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.280 First of all, let's let's start with the one thing. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:04:59.160 Uh. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.159 And I shouldn't talk talk about one of my friend's finances, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.000 but I think Sergio would be totally okay with this. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.640 He is He is not rich by any stretch of 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:14.600 the imagination. He was the foreman on my job's at 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:19.920 his I hired his boss his boss's company, and Sergio 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.800 works underneath him. So you know, people are saying, oh, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.960 he overcharged you. He never charged me anything. He was 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.080 he had somebody to report to the fact that I 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:34.080 gave Sergio stuff that we weren't using or extra stuff 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.560 is not the point. So let's start with that Sergio 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:42.240 is not rich now, liking his home country more than 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.280 he likes America. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.039 How dare he? First of all, he has. 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:51.320 A Mexican wife who they met in Los Angeles, and 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.159 they have a family here. That's why for the majority 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.840 of the year they live here, because that's where his 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.120 family is. I just it always me so much when 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:06.520 people say when a president gets elected and people threaten 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.520 to leave, like, oh, if he wins, I'm leaving the country. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.080 I never say stuff like that, and I could. I 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.440 could go anywhere on this planet if I felt like it. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.000 I don't because I don't want to. It's like, this 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.200 is where I live, this is where my family is. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.800 These are the restaurants that I like to go to 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.520 or that I know about, so I don't want to 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.280 have to find new places to eat. I just it's 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.279 so dumb. Do I think it's the best country in 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:33.560 the world. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:34.560 I don't do. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.440 I like living here, Yeah, it's great. I love the 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.359 Miami Dolphins. I don't fucking live in Miami. I know 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.159 that they are not the best team in football. They're 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.680 not even in the top fifty percent. I don't believe. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.880 It's just it's just so weird. How can he like 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:58.159 where he was born and raised more than where he 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.200 lives now with his wife and kids. I don't know. Oh, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.240 he just thinks it's great. So who gives a shit? 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:08.360 You know, the person that's commenting this isn't some guy 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.800 that's got it all together living in Laguna Beach going, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.720 I can't believe you're shitting on this place. No, it's 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.920 some guy in some horrible part of this country hammering 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:23.160 on the keyboard. You can love someplace more than where 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.080 you live. If you don't think it's the best, then 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.400 you you shouldn't be here. That's that is so dumb. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.480 The other thing I can't wrap my head around completely 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.720 is is people that that type things out that are 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:43.040 shitting on the guests that we have. These aren't celebrities, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.880 so these people don't need to come on the show. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.120 They're they're doing me a favor. They don't, they're not. 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.240 They don't have a PR team telling them, I, oh no, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.920 this will help your image. So you guys are doing 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.920 me a disservice when you when you write snarky things 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.240 about a guest that didn't want to be on a 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.280 show in the first place, They're not looking for any 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.480 type of attention. I'm just asking hey, as a favor 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.360 to me, can I interview you because I find you 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.360 fascinating and I want to share your story with people. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.520 So you're doing this show at disservice when you write 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.560 nasty things about a guest, and makes it harder for 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.640 me to get other guests to come on the show. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.480 And some people like to say nice things about me. Oh, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.560 you know, I do a good job interview in these people. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.960 But some of these people are very this is the 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.840 first time they've ever been interviewed. They're very nervous. I 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.400 have to ramble thirty minutes about what we're gonna eat 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.920 later for lunch, just to get them comfortable before we 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.440 get into it. And then when we finally have a 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:55.400 fun discussion, you hammer shit out about fuck this guy 0:08:56.040 --> 0:09:00.880 taking jobs from us. But go round here. Uh, Eddie, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.960 what's your what's your Uh? What's your favorite country? 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:05.240 What you say France? 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:06.400 France? 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:11.079 Well that that would upset Sergio. To be honest, John, 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:12.679 what's your favorite. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:13.160 I'm gonna go Spain. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:19.640 Oh, look at this. Two Americans, one military kid, the 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.800 other one from Ohio, and both of them pick a 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:27.760 European country. You guys are both deplorable. Dylan, what's your 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.720 favorite country? I'm going Norway, nor actually pretty good. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:33.800 He might he might be able to sway me on 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:39.560 that one. Pete Spain. Hete was Spain? All right? 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.199 Do you want to know what my favorite country is? Yeah, okay, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.480 it's America. But I'm a homer. I'm a homer in fairness, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.480 it's it's I like Tahoe, and Tahoe's in America, so 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.240 the whole country wins. 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.920 Because of Tahoe. You know what. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.480 I'm sorry, Eddie. I know we're gonna do comments, but 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.120 you've soured me. You soured me with the first one, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.959 and I don't want to hear from anybody else. Yeah, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.559 moan all you want, guys. One bad apple ruined the 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.040 whole thing for everyone. I'm kind of in a good 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.600 mood though, because I'm thinking thinking about Tahoe, which always 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.679 makes me happy because it's a magical place and I 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.000 don't even believe in magic, but there's something about that altitude. 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.000 Once you're over six thousand feet. Oh, smell of the pine. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.959 That's magic, Not like today's guest who dabbles in the 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:44.080 dark arts. Enjoy Pasha, My guest today has a job that, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.199 even if you think is silly, you can't deny how 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.640 insanely impressive it is to see in person. He can 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.480 take a deck of cards and magically make you pretend 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.800 to care. Please welcome Hollywood's favorite magician, Jeff Black. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.400 So great to be here. That's nice to you. Jeff. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.800 What is this thing? Is this notes? Just remember some stuff? 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.200 If I gotta get that off my desk, make that 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.319 disappear boom? 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:08.600 Yeah. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.040 First question, do you believe in ghosts? 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.839 No? Is it better if I lie? Huh? Okay? Can 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.120 magicians get into heaven? Yeah? I don't think they can. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:21.680 I like that. That's a serious question. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.679 Anyone can get the forgiveness of Oh I don't know. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.520 I feel like because you're dabbling in the dark arts. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.280 I mean, my last name is black. All I do 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:30.840 is black magic. Oh man. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.160 I get emails actually from people that want me to 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.240 put curses on their family members and stuff like that, 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:36.679 and I'm like, I don't really do that kind of 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:37.160 black magic. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.760 It's like hard tricks. You don't think nerdier. Can you 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:40.520 do curses? 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.200 I know I don't do that. No, all right, Jeff, 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.959 Where are you originally from? I'm originally from Arcadia, California. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.600 You ever go there? Why not? Why'd you say why not? 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.040 Before I answered, well, I'm already assuming that you haven't 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.680 been there. When what have I gone to Arcadia? 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.000 It's next to Pasadena, so yeah, I mean, I'm sure 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.200 I've been to Pasadena. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.440 I don't know, right, So you're from Arcadia. How'd you 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.200 get into magic? 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.760 I saw the David Blaine specials when I was a kid, 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.559 and I always wanted to learn and like, it just 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.960 seemed like the coolest thing ever. And then the library 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.280 was really bad with the books they had at the time, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.600 so I didn't really get to learn until YouTube was 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:17.880 a thing in high school for me. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:18.760 Let me tell you something. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.640 David Blaine had an influence on me as well, because 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.839 he would be interviewed regularly on Howard Stern and I 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.240 would hear this monotone and then i'd see his face 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.800 on the E Network when they would televise it, and 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.800 I'm like, and then I would see the girls that 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.600 he was dating, and I was like, what in the 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.840 actual fuck is going on? Like magic is real? If 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.239 this sack of shit is he used to date everyone 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.520 in Hollywood? Mind blowing. That's the only part of it 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.400 that interested me, none of it. Do you would like 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:51.280 what he does now? 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:51.920 Yeah? 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.040 Like I'm gonna hold my breath for twelve minutes, bullshit. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:55.440 It's pretty cool. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.600 Like he's really pushing his body a lot of that's 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.520 like very real, and he's meeting the people that do 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:00.320 it learn how. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:00.560 To do it. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.040 And I just liked it when he was on the 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.640 street doing tricks in front of black people and then 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.640 they would scream like crazy. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.560 That's my favorite. That's the formula he innovated. I wish 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:10.880 you would. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.559 He's the one that figured out black people are the 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:13.359 best audiences. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.120 That's the first magic special that really put that in 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.040 the line light. And he created the genre of street 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:19.240 magic basically by doing it. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.800 You join the magic club at your high school? 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:22.559 Yeah? 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.400 How much pussy did you guys get? Do most high 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:28.920 schools have a magic club? 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:29.800 I hope so. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.280 Honestly, I've never heard of such a thing. What can 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.199 you letter in magic letter? 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.480 Oh? Like that? Oh? Is that like a grade in school? Oh? 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.679 This is so perfectly. You don't know the reference of letter. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.200 If you play football for your high school, you get 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.559 a letter like a letterman's jacket, and you a letter. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.080 Oh okay, I've never lettered. Let's be clear. It's like 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.400 the chess club. I'm guessing. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.040 Yeah, that's a much better comparison. Okay. How many people 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.200 were in the magic club in your high school? Fifteen 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.800 twenty pretty good amount a big high school. I had 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.199 like four thousand kids in my high school. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.840 Diversity in that club. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:08.600 Yeah, there was. Arcadia is a diverse city, Okay. In general, magicians. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:13.480 Diverse, not not between genders stuff and not genderwise. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.440 Why don't women become magicians? 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.199 I've always assumed it was because magicians learn it to 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.560 pick up girls. But there is a bigger magic presence 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.360 from the women, at least at the Magic Castle. Now 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.800 they have like a women's night they made up. It's 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.720 I can see a growing momentum there. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.680 How long does it take to get good at magic? 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.440 I felt like after three years I was just like 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.000 feeling my hands. I'm like, whoa three years of like 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.760 everyday practice card magic. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:37.880 I was like, I feel proficient. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.440 I can do anything I really want to do now 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.800 that's with like twelve sixteen hour practice days. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.960 What yeah, I just know lifed it for a while. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.080 Do you prefer illusions or tricks? 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:48.720 I prefer tricks. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.800 You're just asking the term or the actual like what 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:52.080 you refer to it my tricks. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:53.520 Yeah, I prefer. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:58.000 Tricks, just because allusions to me means like big stage props, assistants, 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:59.920 that kind of thing, and that's a lot of just 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:00.720 I don't. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.560 Like you do close up magic is your specialty? 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:03.240 Yeah? That fair? 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.640 Yeah, okay, but will you ever do you do know 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.360 how to do the bigger illusions? Are you building big props? 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.440 I'm working on stuff. I'm yeah, I'm messing with it. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.920 But I'm not like considering myself an illusionist. I'm just 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.080 trying to make my stage show bigger and better. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.520 You have to have somebody handling all your music cues. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.720 That's that's a real job. It is. I can do 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.080 it myself in a lot of instances unless. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.120 The theater's too big, okay, bluetooth distance, I can do 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:26.600 it myself. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.120 Hmmm, all right. I had a lot of work like 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.520 a real pro Yeah, now it is what you know. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.800 I used to work in chin Lin's Theater for a 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.200 long time at the mirage. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.239 Yes, Oh is he good? Oh he's phenomenal. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.240 I've never watched a single minute. We pass each other 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.120 in the hallway. I'm like, hey, shann how was your show? 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.680 He's sprinting because he does a bit where he runs 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.360 backstage like a maniac to get to another entrance and 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.280 and does some I'm like, I always try to stop 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.160 him talk while he's like he's got to hurry up 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.600 and get to this other spot, And I'm like, shit, 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.400 what's going on? How's the audience? 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.680 What a show? Yeah? Now, he actually won a competition 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.080 called fism. Have you ever heard of that one? 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.720 Yes, it's called the Olympics of Magic within the community. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.000 And if you win that, pretty much every magician of 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.600 the world knows who you are. And yeah, he won 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.240 that a couple of years before he won AGT, so 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.120 I was already a fan of his. I was like, Yes, 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.360 if someone's gonna win AGT, let it be this guy 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:22.800 who's really. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.200 Putting the work in. He's not a fraud in any 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.240 sense of the word. Are there frauds? How do you 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.000 cheat your profession? 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.080 There's people who I mean, I'm not to say I 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.080 haven't done this, but I feel soul this when I 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.160 do it. If you just buy a magic trick and 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:35.680 just copy and paste it into your act. 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.800 In comedy, I think that's why we stick our nose 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.600 up at a lot of magicians because when they try 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.920 to cross over and be funny and it's like, oh 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.120 they you know who really buys acts hypnotists really a 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.600 lot of hypnotists by acts, because for a long time 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:56.080 comedy clubs hypnotists were taking over too much. They were 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.560 like doing like two weeks. Normally a comic is there 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.480 for one week. And then they were like they just 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.080 buy their act from another hypnotist, and you know, it's like, oh, 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.000 here's what you do. You bring people up and you 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.560 tell them that's cold, and then it's hot and they 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.200 had all the jokes whatever, and then of course everybody 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.120 loves it because the audience is participating. But that doesn't 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.639 mean it's good. The audience is fucking idiots. Like I 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.040 think we all have to always accept that they're they're there. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.960 I mean I say that to the audience, I don't 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.520 mean it like a nasty but they don't matter. They're 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.560 just fucking people. I know how you're going to. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.560 React that's not your first radio. Oh have you bought 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:29.760 any tricks? 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:30.359 Yeah? 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:31.879 I mean it seems like every trick is just a 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.840 variation of another trick. Is that not true? 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.400 I wouldn't say literally every trick is, but most sure. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.920 Have you ever had to confront another magician that's done 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.640 a trick that was eerily similar to one that you 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.560 that was like a personal trick that you had created? 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:46.560 Not too much. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.679 I really do pick stuff that's quite difficult on purpose. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.760 So that's if you're gonna copy me, you're gonna work 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.000 really hard to do it, or you're gonna do a 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:54.000 really bad version of it. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.200 Are there magician magicians? 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:57.080 Yeah? 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.280 Oh yeah, that's a term that you guys say like 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:00.240 a comics co. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:01.960 Oh yeah, oh that's the thing too. I didn't know 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:03.399 that was a thing. Wow, comstomics. 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.520 Sure, comics that like we all want to watch this 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.880 comic perform. A lot of times they take a big, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.000 you know, bowl of shit in front of the audience 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:13.600 because the audience doesn't like them, but it's like we 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:14.480 don't who cares? 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.800 Yeah, No, magicians magicians do exist. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.720 A lot of times they'll like do like classics, but 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.560 they'll change the method and the magicians. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:21.119 Will be like whoa. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.320 But for late people, the classics are a classic for 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.280 a reason, so the method is probably not as good 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:26.160 as the classic method. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.600 What's a classic? Just an example? 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.720 The linking rings? You seen that one? Yeah, I'm sure. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.600 I mean I think I've always had you know, you 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.399 always end up with a set of rings and that 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:37.720 you're playing with it, and I'm always like, well, I 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:38.560 don't know how to do this. 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.480 This is I don't want to I don't want to learn. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.920 I feel the same. No, I don't touch the linking rings. 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.400 But it's a classic. Yeah. 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.760 How often are you thinking of new tricks on your own? 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:48.720 Pretty often? Yeah? 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.960 And what what's your process? How do you do you 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.960 come up with an idea or do you see something? 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.840 How does it how does it actually become a trick 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:55.480