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Speaker 1: guest co host, my Man from the Holding Court podcast.
Speaker 1: Resident you know, filling in all the time. Of course
Speaker 1: you haven't been to show a couple of times already,
Speaker 1: Big court. What's up, bro? What's going on with your homie?
Speaker 1: Was cracking? Oh man, You know what, sometimes we have
Speaker 1: conversations that are funds. Sometimes we have to have conversations
Speaker 1: to the serious. And uh, it was something I wanted
Speaker 1: to discuss that. I wanted to have a conversation about AIDS.
Speaker 1: H V still impacts the African American and Hispanic community
Speaker 1: disproportionately to everyone else. We're right ahead of transgenders though
Speaker 1: we've actually I think moved ahead of homosexuals, right, you know.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to have a conversation about it because
Speaker 1: me and James did an episode with a guy that
Speaker 1: was a former pimp and he thought AIDS was non existing.
Speaker 1: He said, they didn't. You're there, yea, not say it, bro, No,
Speaker 1: there's no cure for hip. I said, they have ways
Speaker 1: to put people in remission, but it's still they're killing people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. So you know, since I do feel it's
Speaker 1: a duty man for us not to just be talking here.
Speaker 1: So I feel that we have to discuss things sometimes
Speaker 1: to give information to people because it may just save
Speaker 1: somebody's life. Right for sure. It has spread it like
Speaker 1: what the motorcycle said, there's a lot of people out
Speaker 1: there that's catching it, you know, riding motorcycles. So you
Speaker 1: know everybody that riding motorcycle, damn they get you know,
Speaker 1: they picked a choice of a woman. A lot of
Speaker 1: those guys don't tell you or that female that they
Speaker 1: has the hip b because the first thing, and this
Speaker 1: is what was told to me, Why would I tell
Speaker 1: somebody I got it? And then now to isolated from
Speaker 1: the bite setting people are funk with so they won't
Speaker 1: tell you they got it, and they move around as
Speaker 1: if they don't have Wow, that's the danger in it.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people got it but won't
Speaker 1: say ship and they fucking and then go home to
Speaker 1: their wife or girlfriend and keep it pushing. Yeah, go ahead, No,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. So, you know, how can you
Speaker 1: control something or get controlled of something that nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: even disclose to you that they got it or whatever.
Speaker 1: They just keep and they continue to give it to
Speaker 1: other people, you know, and pretend like they ain't never
Speaker 1: had it. You can't do that, And that's crazy because
Speaker 1: I mean in this day and age, you know, with
Speaker 1: the advancements of medication, you know, it's really not the
Speaker 1: stigma attached to it, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, back in the in the eighties
Speaker 1: and in the nineties, you know, of course it was
Speaker 1: always um, it was kind of attached. It always had
Speaker 1: the thing of being a gay disease, you know. But nowadays,
Speaker 1: I would think that someone wouldn't wouldn't need to feel
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying, because it's so commonplace.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I think that
Speaker 1: I don't know, like you said, the media, the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: they've been very mum about HIV and age. Uh they haven't.
Speaker 1: They had a whole lot, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's not And I think, like I said before, maybe
Speaker 1: the advancement of of medication, because now they can they
Speaker 1: have medication where it can be suppressed, to where it
Speaker 1: can't be detected in your blood. You know, you can't,
Speaker 1: you know, they have medications where you don't transmit it.
Speaker 1: So I think people have probably become very laxed. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the fear of it, the
Speaker 1: phobia isn't there. I guess of catching it. I'm guessing,
Speaker 1: you know, because living in Las Vegas, you're going to
Speaker 1: strip you got prostitutes. We already know that age is
Speaker 1: real big and biggest. But you got tourists that come
Speaker 1: out there and they solicit m and they don't give
Speaker 1: a funk if longer she fine, and got the kiddies
Speaker 1: and whatever they solicit, So they don't think about taking
Speaker 1: that chance that one night, that one weekend, and then
Speaker 1: go back home wherever the funk they come from, and
Speaker 1: then bam, this is how we spread this ship. So
Speaker 1: ain't nobody taking the proper precautions to say, if I
Speaker 1: do funk around this is I'm gonna make sure I'm good.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody doing that? And and that's a part of
Speaker 1: the accountability too, because a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: their status is a lot of people are loose with
Speaker 1: themselves and they don't get check ups, and they don't
Speaker 1: force their partners to get check up even even just
Speaker 1: pass some some prostitution, just casual encounters, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like bolk. Don't they not on it like
Speaker 1: they used to be, which you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, we still as as a culture or disproate
Speaker 1: ortionately affected by it. And then two, I think what
Speaker 1: contributes to that is the the phenomena of downlow men.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you know, men jumping the fence.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, and and not to to
Speaker 1: to relegated to just being engage disease. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you know, I mean, the science is there.
Speaker 1: You know, vaginal sex is less risky than ain't no sex.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you took the words right out of
Speaker 1: my mouth, Court, where I was gonna read black men
Speaker 1: who have sex with men m S M and women
Speaker 1: but who do not identify as KAY or disclosed that
Speaker 1: by six with activities. Two main female partners also known
Speaker 1: as mental download have been sighted as the main reason
Speaker 1: for the increased HVP infections and black women mhm. And
Speaker 1: it's scary. It's alarmly scary. I'm gonna tell you something. See,
Speaker 1: you got to remember we had two big incidents in
Speaker 1: our generation. Court. I'm I'm older than you, right, and
Speaker 1: me and James. You know, I'm like kind of in
Speaker 1: between both of you guys. Right, So we had when
Speaker 1: Maxi Johnson had it that many people really take a
Speaker 1: look at it. But then when Eric caught it, when
Speaker 1: easy He got it, it really made the African American
Speaker 1: community start looking at saying, man, you know what this
Speaker 1: stuff is real because Eric wasn't gay, he wasn't homosexual man,
Speaker 1: and he caught it right right those days. And I
Speaker 1: know you can remember when you go and get a
Speaker 1: blood transfusion. A lot of people was catching it then.
Speaker 1: But then when I was in prison eighty six, eight, seven,
Speaker 1: eighty eight, you had men messing with men. You you see,
Speaker 1: maybe every other month they will come and see him
Speaker 1: c and snatch your ass out that sealed in these
Speaker 1: white suits and take your ass to Tino. A lot
Speaker 1: of those gay, those guys would come home and go
Speaker 1: home to their wives, roll home to their wives, not
Speaker 1: telling oh I got rolled up because they thought I
Speaker 1: had a job v or I got it, so yeah,
Speaker 1: and those guys came home continuing to funk with men
Speaker 1: on the down though. So you know, it's just it's
Speaker 1: how people don't care about life because once you get it,
Speaker 1: you don't give a funk about nobody else because if
Speaker 1: you did, you wouldn't have sex no more. So it
Speaker 1: was just NonStop. So it was a lot of things
Speaker 1: that contribute to you know, the deals and the cats
Speaker 1: getting out of prison going home to their wives. This
Speaker 1: is how a lot of the black women were catching
Speaker 1: HIV because they men were coming home and and and
Speaker 1: and making love to him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some men was coming home having ain'tal sex and doing
Speaker 1: all this other ship because they enjoyed that ship in prison.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I know a lot of motherfucker's had it.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you something, James, this is
Speaker 1: kind of off the subject. Yes, they no, being that
Speaker 1: you're in prison. Um, do you think that those guys
Speaker 1: that you're talking about where they gave for the state
Speaker 1: or do you think they was gay before they even
Speaker 1: went in there, you know what I'm saying? Or is
Speaker 1: that something they picked up in prison? And you mean
Speaker 1: just said okay, I'm with this ship now. Well normally
Speaker 1: you would say a guy with fifteen to life soon
Speaker 1: or later he's gonna turn that way. But it's not true.
Speaker 1: You had guys in there with life, have been in
Speaker 1: there twenty years. They never touched the punk, you know,
Speaker 1: So it was just you know, some cats gotta have
Speaker 1: sex or feel like they needed or whatever, so they
Speaker 1: went to a man. You know, some of them punks
Speaker 1: was in there straight with it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that had the little little lots only chest and ship
Speaker 1: and they started being silly and the next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: they turned out or they just had it in them already.
Speaker 1: So you know, it varies. But you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of cash that that went that way, they come home
Speaker 1: that way. You know what I'm saying, ain't no going
Speaker 1: back to the straight narrow. It was from cashing there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll poke the pump. Yeah I ain't gay. And you
Speaker 1: know what, I knew some dudes on that same time too,
Speaker 1: like they you know, I remember a dude that I
Speaker 1: grew up with. He tried to say that because he
Speaker 1: wasn't the one being bent over, you know, because he
Speaker 1: was the one getting head somehow another you know, he
Speaker 1: wasn't gay. He's very much gay, That's what I said,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he tried to rationalize
Speaker 1: it like it was some type of prison understanding. But
Speaker 1: you know, but what I take umbrage with, I take
Speaker 1: umbrage with like I don't care what grown people do.
Speaker 1: You know, and you just said, probably what they do
Speaker 1: in their bedroom is whatever. But I think it's irresponsible
Speaker 1: when you have someone like live your truth. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't really believe I'm not gonna say I don't
Speaker 1: believe in bisexuality because I don't want to offend anyone.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think that if that's
Speaker 1: what you do, didn't do that. I think when you
Speaker 1: jump the fence, that's what creates the problem where you
Speaker 1: see these numbers skyrocket, you know, because again we're talking
Speaker 1: about antal sex just you know, not to be uh
Speaker 1: graphic or nothing like that, but I mean it is
Speaker 1: what it is, you know. So the risk the risk
Speaker 1: factor of being becoming infected, uh, you know, it raises substantially,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then they come back
Speaker 1: over to black women. And that's how we have black women.
Speaker 1: I believe being you know, disproportionately affected. You is. I
Speaker 1: don't mean to cut job North, but you got black
Speaker 1: man with white men, you know. So it's in the
Speaker 1: racial it's it's not just black men going to black
Speaker 1: women or black men. I've seen the black dude with
Speaker 1: the Asian dude and they was actually on the bench kissing.
Speaker 1: So today in this society, it's open, it's all out
Speaker 1: those you see it on TV, you see it in
Speaker 1: the cartoons, you see it on the dog swim. It's everywhere.
Speaker 1: So what are they tell me it's okay to promote,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So taking it out to closet,
Speaker 1: it's gone. Being in the closet is gone. So I
Speaker 1: think you make it hard for us to raise our
Speaker 1: kids because you don't want them to watch TV. You
Speaker 1: gotta make them close their eyes when you see this ship.
Speaker 1: Don't go to Magic Mountain up Disneyland and you see
Speaker 1: him walking and hugging and all of that ship. So
Speaker 1: you can't you can't really go out in the public
Speaker 1: now because you see it everywhere, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And like you said earlier, they have medication that makes
Speaker 1: you think that it's okay to go that route. And
Speaker 1: then I think it's not being like like norm said,
Speaker 1: it's it's not being talked about like it was back
Speaker 1: in the day, you know what I'm saying. Like I
Speaker 1: can remember when Easy died. When Easy died, I was
Speaker 1: it was ninety five. I just graduated high school, and
Speaker 1: I can remember feeling are all outsided by the by
Speaker 1: the just the fact that somebody that was like me,
Speaker 1: somebody in the hood, somebody in my culture was infected.
Speaker 1: Because to be very honest with you, bro, I never
Speaker 1: had any type of education or conversations about HIV and
Speaker 1: AGED before that, so there was nothing in school. There
Speaker 1: was nothing that that I saw promote, Like I was
Speaker 1: ignorant to the fact where I thought that it was.
Speaker 1: It was just the gay disease. I mean, because that's
Speaker 1: kind of how they marketed it back then, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that was the information was out there.
Speaker 1: But when easy got it, it was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: that ship in the hood. And then you know, it
Speaker 1: was like all of a sudden, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been in the hood, and then by that time
Speaker 1: it was too late. But I almost wonder if it's
Speaker 1: some type of conspiracy, the fact that it's not promoted
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, they promote the medications. You
Speaker 1: see the medications on TV with the gay couple, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, almost like you know, we already know you
Speaker 1: got this ship, so here's what you do to live
Speaker 1: a long life. But I think the prevention, you know,
Speaker 1: the prevention is always the best cure. And I think
Speaker 1: that that lack of of of of talking about it
Speaker 1: and still promoting it, that it's very much prevalent, you know,
Speaker 1: that ship becomes more recudescent in the culture. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think that's why numbers continue to
Speaker 1: climb where they should be declining at this point. You know.
Speaker 1: But it is like nobody talks about it. Bro, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about the black community.
Speaker 1: We just have a tendency to where we see things there,
Speaker 1: but we just decide not to address it because oh, well,
Speaker 1: it's not going to pack me. We kind of um
Speaker 1: put this false sense of security around ourselves and think, oh,
Speaker 1: that has never happened to me, and no one and
Speaker 1: I love I don't have no gay people. But it's
Speaker 1: not a gay disease. It's a disease. Is that anybody
Speaker 1: can kiss? Well, yeah, responsibility. If I had hip V
Speaker 1: I have to take it upon myself to be responsible
Speaker 1: not to pass it. Ain't nobody taking incredibility for the
Speaker 1: ship that they know got it. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to say nothing like I said earlier, if if people
Speaker 1: know you haven't, people ain't gonna want to shake your hand,
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna give you that death and they don't.
Speaker 1: Nobody want to feel isolated from the world people like
Speaker 1: that anymore. I don't think it's like that anymore. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's usually it's usually just because you know,
Speaker 1: when people are trying to find love, if trying to
Speaker 1: have a relationship is probably one of them difficult conversations.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Pete. I don't know that people
Speaker 1: are ignorant and they're doing what they were doing in
Speaker 1: the Haighties anymore. You know, at least they shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that they were. I can see people
Speaker 1: from James generation kind of still being like that because
Speaker 1: they were never really educated on it like that anyway.
Speaker 1: And it's still less stigma months a lot of older men,
Speaker 1: especially black and Hispanic men, that you know what, oh
Speaker 1: he got that stuff. I don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1: If I don't want to drink out of this glass,
Speaker 1: I might you know, he drunk out the cup through
Speaker 1: the glass, away German sheets, he leaves, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's still that same type of thing because people aren't educated,
Speaker 1: they don't educate themselves. You have to think about it.
Speaker 1: When the whole thing came out Easy and Magic Johnson,
Speaker 1: there was a push for a minute to educate people.
Speaker 1: They were passing out condoms and this's and that's all
Speaker 1: responsibility as parents to still talk to our kids about
Speaker 1: those things. I talked to all of my boys, both
Speaker 1: of my boys and my daughter. I talked to him, Hey,
Speaker 1: that you know about this disease. It's still out there,
Speaker 1: do you know? So you have to ask your partner.
Speaker 1: And there was a thing I saw when I was
Speaker 1: in school, and they had to sign up in the
Speaker 1: wall for every person that you sleep with, you slept
Speaker 1: with the person they slept with, and they showed these
Speaker 1: two people, but it showed all these bodies behind each
Speaker 1: of them, and I thought about how profound that was.
Speaker 1: I said, Wow, that he is true. So you have
Speaker 1: to have a partner if you don't know their history. Man,
Speaker 1: if you got me suspects about it, you know, if
Speaker 1: you suspect any type of in any type of way
Speaker 1: that this dude might be kind of, you know, help
Speaker 1: to forget if he's sleeping with other dudes. If he
Speaker 1: don't buy it. The whole bunch of girls like you
Speaker 1: gotta ask about the history. Have you ever had a
Speaker 1: disease before? Have you ever had even as far, have
Speaker 1: you ever had lamilia or or um? And remember, brother, things,
Speaker 1: it's easier to saying. It's easier to saying because they
Speaker 1: can say no norm like I was telling you, bro
Speaker 1: on the motorcycle set of today, the bike set, you
Speaker 1: have young people, not no old motherfucker's you have young people.
Speaker 1: I did. That's that's that's that has HIV. Now, however
Speaker 1: they're controlling it or whatever is one thing, but it's
Speaker 1: worser now, like on the strip in Las Vegas. It's
Speaker 1: worser now than it was twenty seven years ago. And
Speaker 1: oli enough, I see more commercials about HPV than I
Speaker 1: do HIV in terms of prevention. You know, they promoted
Speaker 1: the hp BE is if I mean you can live
Speaker 1: with that, you know what I mean? Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Men don't even have symptoms with that,
Speaker 1: and women can live with it, but it can lead
Speaker 1: to certain types of cervical candider cervical cancer number and
Speaker 1: I host a number issues. Because the thing is, we
Speaker 1: seem to have this invincibility factor as Black and hispanning
Speaker 1: men like, oh, that had never happened to me until
Speaker 1: it happens. Because I remember my cousin when she got it,
Speaker 1: her husband was a hemophiliate, didn't mess it wrong. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about these were very they were professionals, you know.
Speaker 1: He was a director at the hospital. She was the
Speaker 1: principal of the school. So they were two people that
Speaker 1: she would never think, you know, you never look at
Speaker 1: them and say, oh, what they have. You know, he's
Speaker 1: possibly has hof and you wouldn't think about it like that.
Speaker 1: But he went to Kaiser got a blood transfusion. They
Speaker 1: had no clue when t Kaiser called then one they
Speaker 1: were actually about to go on vacation of Europe. Hey,
Speaker 1: we need you to come in. What's going on. We're
Speaker 1: going on vacation. Can this wait? No, this can't wait.
Speaker 1: You need to come in. So they're like, what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know, we've had an accident. We had a breach,
Speaker 1: chump and unfortunately you were in effect that we need
Speaker 1: to test your wife from back then it wasn't as
Speaker 1: incident as it was. You know, you go take a
Speaker 1: test right now, you're getting your results in five minutes,
Speaker 1: you get your results to fight or ten minutes. Hell,
Speaker 1: they even got to test people can take it home,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, to determinate status. So they called
Speaker 1: them in and you know, the wife didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: The husband, you know, that's traumatic, but you know what
Speaker 1: he said, he had a mindset like that because they
Speaker 1: were a Christian couple. He handled totally different than she did.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, any treatment mistakes you've got,
Speaker 1: And they wound up getting five or six million from cars.
Speaker 1: And I still think they may be settled out of
Speaker 1: court too early because at that time they probably were
Speaker 1: their minds thinking we may be dead in two years,
Speaker 1: so we need to take what we can get. We
Speaker 1: don't have the time to track this out of litigation,
Speaker 1: so they took what they can get. I would have
Speaker 1: been pushing the ass for twenty and fifty million dollars personally,
Speaker 1: but he wound up taking a real aggressive course of treatment.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you not that this guy is
Speaker 1: remarried and has had children since he was you know,
Speaker 1: since he was diagnosed healthy, looks just as healthy as
Speaker 1: he's one of us. She died, She died with him
Speaker 1: two years because she refused treatment, and she was just
Speaker 1: so angry because her perfect life was disrupted. Not that
Speaker 1: I can blame her. That has to be a traumatic experience.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what she went through. But she
Speaker 1: went through this real dark period to where her rumors
Speaker 1: that she possibly was messing with other dudes you know,
Speaker 1: like she was just angry to the point where I
Speaker 1: remember they said when she was in hospital and dying,
Speaker 1: she was seeing people. She was seeing like spirits and
Speaker 1: everything like that. You know, they started going through this
Speaker 1: little form of dementia when they started seeing stuff and everything.
Speaker 1: She had the source and her body and so you see,
Speaker 1: this beautiful black woman just just tore apart dog And
Speaker 1: it was the saddest thing ever to me, and it
Speaker 1: made me handle it, and it made me handle my
Speaker 1: life a certain way right right. You know, even before that,
Speaker 1: I was scared to death of her. I mean that ship.
Speaker 1: That ship makes monogamy look cool, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it does. You know, here's why I've been with the
Speaker 1: same woman since I was like teen years old. You know,
Speaker 1: I was scared to death of her. Yeah, me too easy.
Speaker 1: When Easy died, bro, I'm telling you, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh Jesus Christ, you know what I mean. You start
Speaker 1: thinking about everything that you could have done, and you know,
Speaker 1: you start thinking, damn, where is she? You know, like, damn,
Speaker 1: I ain't seen such a such damn and she did,
Speaker 1: like your mind. But you know, I think you know
Speaker 1: prevention that I always say that man prevention is the
Speaker 1: best cure. You know, uh know your status and and
Speaker 1: and you know, protect yourself. And like I said, if
Speaker 1: you start new relationships, man, go get tested together, you know.
Speaker 1: And one one thing I do know, Like you just
Speaker 1: said about your uncle, Uh you said your uncle, right,
Speaker 1: your cousin. Just like you said about your cousin, bro, Listen,
Speaker 1: in this day and age, a lot of that ship
Speaker 1: ain't stopping nothing, you know what I mean. Like like
Speaker 1: you said, he's moved on with his life, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I think that you know, for
Speaker 1: the for the for the better part of it, that
Speaker 1: it's more acceptable, you know. And I understand that it
Speaker 1: could be generational divides with that, um, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think to this new newer generation, it's you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're educated, if they're they're in the no,
Speaker 1: then they don't have to hide, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because you funk around and meet somebody and be like damn,
Speaker 1: I'm HIV positive, they'd be like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you said something, so am I You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You know, And as scary as that he is,
Speaker 1: but I believe like this, I believe if you meet
Speaker 1: a person to day and this is what I would
Speaker 1: be on you know what, You're cool. I like you.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna do this for both of us. Mean
Speaker 1: you're gonna go get tested before we do anything, and
Speaker 1: and until I really go two we got married or whatever,
Speaker 1: we would be going to go get a test every
Speaker 1: six months because I want to know, right, I want
Speaker 1: to know, because I don't know, because you could be
Speaker 1: sleeping with a woman who has the appearances of being
Speaker 1: wiped you know, um sweet, probably pure bread, but she
Speaker 1: may be a beast in that bed room. She may
Speaker 1: got more buddies on earth she than all free us
Speaker 1: put together. You don't know. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: And it only takes one time, you know, one time,
Speaker 1: And I mean listen, if we get into the science
Speaker 1: of it, uh, you know, and I don't well, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that to to missdirect anybody, right,
Speaker 1: but like me and you was talking still, it's relatively
Speaker 1: hard to get you know, vaginally, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you can have sex with a woman vaginally and
Speaker 1: and not get it and she but the other way
Speaker 1: around is not true though, because if a man is
Speaker 1: HIV positive we can infect the woman easier than she
Speaker 1: can affect in fact us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So um, but I think it's just like I said, Man,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's like it's it's I don't think that
Speaker 1: that just as a whole people really understand the brevity
Speaker 1: of it like they used to because motherfucker's is more
Speaker 1: afraid think about that, they're more afraid of COVID. Motherfucker
Speaker 1: will wear a mask. But don't dog, raw dog of hooker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And as that was the
Speaker 1: craziest thing in the world, dude, it's like in the
Speaker 1: year two thousand and twenty two, who would be out there,
Speaker 1: raw dog and somebody because not only do you have HIV,
Speaker 1: you have a whole of a number of diseases. You
Speaker 1: have en them to her piece, you have sent them
Speaker 1: to awards, you have all for media, You got gonna rhea,
Speaker 1: and you got this other stuff. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: name of it, but they were saying, this thing is
Speaker 1: damn they're worth the leaves. Yeah, yeah, you all gonna suffer.
Speaker 1: You're gonna suffer. You stick your chest out every time
Speaker 1: you take down a different female, right, m You feel
Speaker 1: like you feel. Yeah, I got got me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, especially if with a ring on. You
Speaker 1: know me, if she married and not chake it down,
Speaker 1: I did something. She gotta go home to that mother.
Speaker 1: And I mean, we ain't gotta argue noticed situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just say people really don't care know about sex, sex
Speaker 1: and sex and everybody from the nightclubs to to to
Speaker 1: wherever means somebody in the grocery store. It don't take
Speaker 1: a month to have sex with that person. You know,
Speaker 1: some men and some women seek to have sex with
Speaker 1: other people because their partner are not great in bad
Speaker 1: so they're looking for something different and they it's not
Speaker 1: a conscious mind. It just I want different, And you
Speaker 1: know what slays? I feel that nothing cuts you off? Brother,
Speaker 1: But you know, without respect, if I'm not doing it
Speaker 1: for you in the bad room, please come and tell me. Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is work. I like you as
Speaker 1: a person. I think you're a wonderful person, but I
Speaker 1: need more. Guess what I try tomorrow, but the sun
Speaker 1: is still shining. Next thing, don't play with about your
Speaker 1: don't happen where you hear that, Norman, ain't nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: keep you one hunted like that until they get mad
Speaker 1: at you and say all that motherfucker's got a little
Speaker 1: They don't, they don't. Is that always at the end?
Speaker 1: Oh that puks you throw out, But you're still sucking that,
Speaker 1: You still student. And that's what I'm saying, because you
Speaker 1: knew that dude had a little bick when you're married,
Speaker 1: when you got with him, and you decided to get
Speaker 1: with him, and you decided to marry shortly, you know,
Speaker 1: shortly short of truth. You gotta get that. You gotta
Speaker 1: go the vibrator or something like that. You know, we
Speaker 1: don't get out playing with the motherfucker's life. That ain't cool. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: But like that's a great point that you made though, James.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, sex is so cheap, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's there's you know, when you
Speaker 1: have that casual ship like that, there's no meaningful connections,
Speaker 1: you know, and those are stimes you know, And and
Speaker 1: you said, but but you know, to think about it, man,
Speaker 1: you know some you at some point it seemed like
Speaker 1: as man, you you outgrow that, you know what I'm saying. Theoretically,
Speaker 1: at least you should, you know, you should you can't
Speaker 1: keep doing a little boy stuff. I couldn't imagine. I mean,
Speaker 1: as many beautiful women as I'm around, and I see,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you that I don't respond to
Speaker 1: them like that because I gotta like your ass, like
Speaker 1: I gotta kind of connect you and be comfortable with you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? When you when you fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 1: you know, even eighteen years old, the wind blow and
Speaker 1: then motherfucker rock up on you. Right, you will put
Speaker 1: that the more sucking a blender if it feels good
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you get to a certain age
Speaker 1: where you know your affections, you start looking at the
Speaker 1: quality of a woman because at the same time, this
Speaker 1: is the woman that's probably gonna raise your kids, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you start looking at like like,
Speaker 1: you know, like we're in this bad bitch culture, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what constitutes you as a bad bitch? Because
Speaker 1: you got a fake fat ass and you know, an
Speaker 1: augmented body. Like I'm looking at what's your education, what's
Speaker 1: your personality? Like, you know what I'm saying, what what's
Speaker 1: your aspirations? What's ship that's that's the ship that count. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with that, you're probably gonna get a responsible adult that
Speaker 1: you know most likely doesn't have anything, and if they do,
Speaker 1: they probably would let you know. You know, but when
Speaker 1: you're chasing them city girls, ain't no telling what you're
Speaker 1: gonna come up with. You should be asking. I know,
Speaker 1: for me, would attracted me most to my wife was
Speaker 1: the fact that she wasn't promiscuous. She was a church girl.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't come up to my part with me. We
Speaker 1: sat on the stupid at university, or we were sitting
Speaker 1: in their car. You know, I was a young dude.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get her to come up there
Speaker 1: to the department, but she wouldn't have happen, And that
Speaker 1: maybe like her even more maybe valuable. As I looked,
Speaker 1: I didn't look at it as the object at that point.
Speaker 1: I look the I was like, man, I'm married this girl.
Speaker 1: That's like I'm on raising my kids between your wife
Speaker 1: yester years to the wifey I want today. Because a
Speaker 1: lot of women don't leave nothing for the mind. You
Speaker 1: see everything you see, you see it all right there. See.
Speaker 1: Most of the women of today don't know the worth
Speaker 1: of self meaning hurt. They just there for the moment.
Speaker 1: They you know, we got fifty five sixty year old
Speaker 1: women prefer forty thirty nine year old young man. How
Speaker 1: can you get a young man of that age when
Speaker 1: he has yet to reach his peak? So you actually
Speaker 1: planning yourself all this time, all this time, and now
Speaker 1: you have to be mother because the average cat you
Speaker 1: get ain't working. Are he doing is laying up playing PlayStation,
Speaker 1: doing his thing, and and he he hitting the old ads.
Speaker 1: One day you wake up because he didn't hit the
Speaker 1: upside the head with the pillow. Now you'll be like, damn,
Speaker 1: maybe can you go pay a bill or something for me?
Speaker 1: But now it's hard to get rid of that cat.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is a lot of women don't
Speaker 1: know they worked today. Yeah, that's the fortunately, Yeah, that's right, James.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the culture too, just like you know,
Speaker 1: on the man's side, you know you have us, you know,
Speaker 1: you have the youngsters, you know, preaching this drill and
Speaker 1: this kill and this negative ship. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the young girls and the women.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't understand the importance of of a union.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be married. Everybody wants to be a
Speaker 1: bad bitch or a baby mama, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And all of that stuff kind of to still was
Speaker 1: saying earlier, Like you said your attraction with your wife,
Speaker 1: if I could guess, she probably had a father around,
Speaker 1: She probably had a strong father figure, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So exactly the same thing with my wife.
Speaker 1: My wife grew up with a father and her she
Speaker 1: had her father's love, her father's so she wasn't seeking
Speaker 1: that approval and that attention from just anywhere. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because a lot of these girls be
Speaker 1: seeking you know, uh, that protection and that attention that
Speaker 1: they didn't get in the house. So um, yeah, the
Speaker 1: culture is different now. That's why we gotta like my daughters.
Speaker 1: You know everywhere you still you met my daughters. I
Speaker 1: ain't raised no hot girls. I didn't raise none of that.
Speaker 1: Even once my oldest daughter became a woman. And I
Speaker 1: understand a woman wants to feel sexy. I totally get that, right,
Speaker 1: But I used to tell the rule of thumb. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna show some cleavage, cover up the bottom half.
Speaker 1: If you're going to wear something fitted on the bottom,
Speaker 1: cover up the top half. Is one or the other
Speaker 1: don't just be you know what I'm saying, don't just
Speaker 1: like that leave something. It's like, you gotta talk to
Speaker 1: your daughters like you talk to your sons. You can't,
Speaker 1: damn though, you can't discriminating that conversation. And I know
Speaker 1: what's uncomfortable to sell, don't you know? When I knew
Speaker 1: it was time. When we were in Atlanta, I would
Speaker 1: turn around every five minutes and kick some grown asser
Speaker 1: looked like he older than me looking at my daughter,
Speaker 1: and then we kissed me off. But then that's when
Speaker 1: I realized, I said, she's turning into a young lady.
Speaker 1: Now I have to have these conversations with it, because
Speaker 1: I understand the power of an older nigga with a
Speaker 1: mouth exactly right, exactly. But what you fail to realize,
Speaker 1: both of y'all got daughters. Don't take the difference here.
Speaker 1: Your your Your daughters grew up with their mom and
Speaker 1: their father. They understand, They see what it is to
Speaker 1: be a man and what type of man they want,
Speaker 1: So they're not gonna be out there as reckless as
Speaker 1: the young girl that's not around her father all the time.
Speaker 1: So they grew up with values, understanding what it is
Speaker 1: and what they want when they get to that point.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, there's not a woman, a
Speaker 1: young woman on this planet today that don't go through
Speaker 1: the the homeward thing and want to experience what it
Speaker 1: feels like or what you know, what is love or
Speaker 1: you know, you see what I'm saying. So where we
Speaker 1: come in at is we kind of determined from them
Speaker 1: their own thought, you see what I'm saying. So every
Speaker 1: time we keep saying no, that ain't the one, that
Speaker 1: ain't the one, don't do it like this, that makes
Speaker 1: them want to further investigate, you know, certain situations. So
Speaker 1: we can only be parents now. The difference with with
Speaker 1: with my daughter, having my daughter the whole time for
Speaker 1: eight years while her mama was going away doing her thing.
Speaker 1: I've explained to my daughter, rowing uncut, you don't want
Speaker 1: to cat like your daddy, you don't want to cat
Speaker 1: like your uncles. But when they grow up, they want
Speaker 1: to see for themselves. So giving it to her, the
Speaker 1: the growing uncut, I probably put a little too much
Speaker 1: on it because now she won't that rowing uncutting in it,
Speaker 1: so she believed, you see what I'm saying, So we
Speaker 1: could be doing it the right way. And we could
Speaker 1: be doing it the wrong way at the same time,
Speaker 1: we could be right wrong. I had to say it
Speaker 1: ain't my fault because when I allowed her to go
Speaker 1: back with her mother. One thing Pops didn't tell her
Speaker 1: is that sweet talk ship, Oh you're so fine, baby,
Speaker 1: because I can't go on that character. This is my child.
Speaker 1: So when that dude get to talk into the mind
Speaker 1: and she never been in a relationship, is something brand
Speaker 1: new to your child, you know what I'm saying, as
Speaker 1: a young woman, and she's amazed by that because her
Speaker 1: mind is fully developed. Don't understanding that this is bullshit propaganda.
Speaker 1: So they fall into that track regardless of what. But
Speaker 1: that's when we say we stepped back and allowed them
Speaker 1: to grow up and be young women, because whether y'all
Speaker 1: know it or not, your daughters are its instilled and
Speaker 1: I'm already you just don't look at it like that.
Speaker 1: But they see the difference of man, you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They already know, Hey, let's pay bill is
Speaker 1: real quick and we get right back to y'all. Well,
Speaker 1: you know one thing I was gonna say is, you know,
Speaker 1: women not knowing their word farm. I was watching the
Speaker 1: movie Baby Boy, the other day. It's on It's on Lulu,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen that movie and maybe fifteen years,
Speaker 1: and I just looked at the relationship, and I looked
Speaker 1: at it. I said, you know, here you go. You
Speaker 1: got Tyree's he asked, two beautiful baby mothers, right, you know,
Speaker 1: he got to Roger Heinson and he got the other girl,
Speaker 1: both of them beautiful young ladies. Yet they accepting this
Speaker 1: dude going out cheating on him, she finding condoms in
Speaker 1: the back of the car. He don't messed around with
Speaker 1: the girl, look at her job and stuff, and she
Speaker 1: still puts up with it because she on there like,
Speaker 1: that's my baby daddy. I love him no, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to come back he don't love you no more
Speaker 1: than I looked at it now, and I looked at
Speaker 1: it way different. I give up younger, I said, the
Speaker 1: women are pathetic on here. Who would you just sit
Speaker 1: up and accept some bullshit like that? A motherfucker that
Speaker 1: don't work, a motherfucker that don't do enough, but coming
Speaker 1: in the late fight. But he ain't saying no bills
Speaker 1: and half father to his child. He's still a little boy.
Speaker 1: He's still clinging to his mama's titty because every time
Speaker 1: he gets mad at her, what do you do? He
Speaker 1: leave the house and go home in his room. He
Speaker 1: don't even want his mama to have a boyfriend, you know,
Speaker 1: until Melvine gets smack him upside the head and you know,
Speaker 1: gets mac right in them. But he's still a little boy.
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing about these guys to chase
Speaker 1: these women. See, I'm gonna tell you it takes a
Speaker 1: man to be a man. And I'm not knocking what
Speaker 1: nobody else do, bro, but it takes a certain level
Speaker 1: of maturity to say this is my woman, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hold my house down, I'm gonna take care of my house.
Speaker 1: And to take care of my house, that means I'm
Speaker 1: ou off. They're slinging my dick. Ter every sally and
Speaker 1: sues m Well, knowing you got you got young men
Speaker 1: out there like my cheftain. No man until he got
Speaker 1: it fifty years old, forty five years old, don't understand
Speaker 1: what it is to be a man, don't understand responsibility
Speaker 1: like some of these young women. You're young, you have
Speaker 1: the child, you think you love this person. That's why
Speaker 1: he's stuck with Goldie because Jody was was that dude,
Speaker 1: he didn't have to have no job. We see this
Speaker 1: every day. Women fall in love with with with what's
Speaker 1: outside on the outside of him. You know, it could
Speaker 1: be his dubism, whatever they want to call it, but
Speaker 1: both of them. Women love that dude. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not understanding what it's something out there that's better,
Speaker 1: but they know what the baby daddy is somebody totally different.
Speaker 1: We always say I'm ship, I'm the baby daddy. I
Speaker 1: can go back and hit any time. No, if you're
Speaker 1: not a productive father, everybody don't know how to be
Speaker 1: a parent, even young women. They don't know how to
Speaker 1: be mothers. And you know what, James, I pushed back
Speaker 1: on that a little bit, and I'll tell you why, because,
Speaker 1: like my situation is unique. You know, my situation is
Speaker 1: kind of an anomaly because I've been with mine, I've
Speaker 1: been with my wife's. I was fifteen, you know, And
Speaker 1: to be very honest with you, when I my wife
Speaker 1: is older than me. So when I was younger, I
Speaker 1: was you know, this ain't what it was when I
Speaker 1: was fifteen. When I was fifteen, it looked like I
Speaker 1: was gonna either go to prison or I was gonna
Speaker 1: wind up, you know what I'm saying, dead um. But
Speaker 1: even with that, he saw something to me that I
Speaker 1: didn't see him myself. So sometimes, you know, when you
Speaker 1: speaking to affairs of the heart, you know, yeah, we
Speaker 1: could look on because if somebody had to judge me
Speaker 1: like that, if somebody would have said, because I mean,
Speaker 1: she was in college, she had a two parent household,
Speaker 1: she was a good girl, wasn't out there all of that,
Speaker 1: you know, But me, I was still complete opposite. So
Speaker 1: it looked like what the funk you doing with this nigger?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, you could do so
Speaker 1: much better. Hell, it was times where I thought she
Speaker 1: could have did better too, you know. But but you
Speaker 1: know when you talk about affairs of the heart, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes the beauty of a relationship,
Speaker 1: when people can grow together because motherfucker's changed, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So motherfucker might be you know, stuck
Speaker 1: on stupid for a second, but you you know, give
Speaker 1: him some time and you love on them and you
Speaker 1: support them, and they can turn that corner, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Because one thing I taught my daughter,
Speaker 1: I talked my daughter. I didn't take her to to
Speaker 1: to look for men with money and all of that.
Speaker 1: Not at all, right, because what I used to tell
Speaker 1: her is your mother is here because she chooses to be.
Speaker 1: She don't have to be. You know, she's educated, she
Speaker 1: has a career. So I always told my daughter, if
Speaker 1: you get with a nigga and he don't got ship,
Speaker 1: that's cool. You can rock with that as long as
Speaker 1: he is pro actively, exactly exactly actively trying to get something.
Speaker 1: If he's okay not having ship, no you don't that.
Speaker 1: I told my daughter the same thing, because it's the
Speaker 1: such thing as growing together. You meet that young man. No,
Speaker 1: he may have him a job for UPS. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he may have a job at UPS. My whole thing
Speaker 1: is this, I've always wanted my daughter just to have
Speaker 1: a man. Now there wasn't a damn bum to have
Speaker 1: its sense of pride. I don't give with them. If
Speaker 1: people work the ups in the daytime sl and boxes
Speaker 1: in the nighttime, had a job with overnight ship, I
Speaker 1: would never have my daughter. That's a man, because that's
Speaker 1: a man that's gonna provide for us also, and he's
Speaker 1: going to do anything. Because I know for me, we've
Speaker 1: all been fortuned on here that we're able to do
Speaker 1: what we love. We're living. But if this ship wouldn't
Speaker 1: a way, I have no problem. Want to go shut
Speaker 1: with ship to take put food on the table. We're
Speaker 1: doing what I have to do. I don't have my
Speaker 1: My old pride comes from me take being a provider.
Speaker 1: My kids ain't never missing no meals. My kids don't
Speaker 1: know where it is to come to the house, and
Speaker 1: the lights ain't turned on, the biggest thing with them.
Speaker 1: The worst thing is if the cable is off or
Speaker 1: the internet, I get to pay the build internet. It's
Speaker 1: like that happened to me the other day, still about
Speaker 1: three days ago. And that's how I fund acause I
Speaker 1: don't get to I don't take care of that. That's
Speaker 1: the one deal I take care of in the house personally.
Speaker 1: Right If the internet is off, Pops, what's wrong with
Speaker 1: the internet? All my bad? Let's be gonna take this thing.
Speaker 1: But it's six things I want to read, and I
Speaker 1: want the people out here to really pay attention to
Speaker 1: this because I'm tired of seeing our people die with
Speaker 1: dumb ship that they don't have to die from. So
Speaker 1: this is just a start. This is my contribution. Number one.
Speaker 1: Black Americans account for almost half of new affections in
Speaker 1: the US each year, despite representing only thirteen percent of
Speaker 1: the population. Although prevention efforts have contributed to a decrease
Speaker 1: in the number of new HIV diagnosis among Black Americans,
Speaker 1: progress has been inconsistent. Black Americans remain more likely to
Speaker 1: be exposed to HIV, not because they participated more risky behavior,
Speaker 1: but because the prevalence of HIV is much greater in
Speaker 1: this community compared with other racial ethnic groups. Number two
Speaker 1: and estimated fourteen percent of Black Americans living with HIV
Speaker 1: are not aware of their status. Go out and get tested.
Speaker 1: They can add years onto your life. They even have
Speaker 1: a medicine now that I saw on TV to where
Speaker 1: if you sleep with somebody you can take it the
Speaker 1: day after and the knocks down the chances of UK
Speaker 1: and HIV exponentially. Go know your status. You don't have
Speaker 1: to die. I don't have to be a depth sence.
Speaker 1: But go take care of yourself. Go find out what's wrong.
Speaker 1: Number three one and two Black men in the US
Speaker 1: who are gay will be diagnosed with HIV in their lifetime.
Speaker 1: That's some scary as ship. Let's say that's scary yourself
Speaker 1: because you think about it. Even if you're not, you
Speaker 1: can say, oh that on the pact me because I'm
Speaker 1: not gay. Man. How you know one of them dudes
Speaker 1: ain't ain't um living in the shell. One of them down,
Speaker 1: no dudes and he's sleeping with somebody he knows that.
Speaker 1: You know, ran across bro. Most of them are. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Number Number four, the incidents of
Speaker 1: HIV has decreased, has decreased among Black women in the US.
Speaker 1: That's the only good thing I've seen on this motherfucker
Speaker 1: so far. The CDC estimated that the number of HIV
Speaker 1: diagnosed among Black women decreased fort However, new infections remain
Speaker 1: more common in Black women than the women of other
Speaker 1: racial ethnic groups. Number five. Black transgender women are more
Speaker 1: likely to be infected with HIV compared with tranship to
Speaker 1: women and the other racial ethnic groups. Number six. HIV
Speaker 1: related deaths are more likely to occur in Black Americans
Speaker 1: compared with other groups. And that's because we don't find
Speaker 1: out what's going on with us. And it's not just
Speaker 1: with HIV, is with fum correct um, colon cancer, other diseases.
Speaker 1: We just don't go It's almost like we lived in
Speaker 1: this delusion, bro, under this cover like to where oh
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this cover over my head, or I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hold a penny up to the sun because it's
Speaker 1: blocking the sun out, but the sun is still shine.
Speaker 1: It's just an illusion. We think. What you think that's
Speaker 1: a tribute to still you know what, Bro? I think
Speaker 1: it's attributed to people just not wanting to know. Bro.
Speaker 1: They feel like if they're go on with life is
Speaker 1: just gonna go away. But it's still there. It's like
Speaker 1: the monstrous like and I just said it, it's almost
Speaker 1: like holding a penny up to the sun. You can
Speaker 1: hold a penny up to the sun and holding a
Speaker 1: certain way looked like you're blocking off the sun. You
Speaker 1: keep thinking you're blocking the sun. You stand out there
Speaker 1: and burning death right right? Get black and the mother
Speaker 1: have medical insurance to go get checked. Um, that's what
Speaker 1: they should start. Everybody need insurance. A lot of them
Speaker 1: don't have games, but you don't. You don't need insurance
Speaker 1: to go get checked though. But you're right in saying
Speaker 1: that we should have universal healthcare that we we are.
Speaker 1: We don't have you know, a one healthcare by large
Speaker 1: but you're right though. Number two, a lot of us
Speaker 1: are lazy. Like you said, no, don't want to know,
Speaker 1: just bro, that's the biggest fear of one's life is
Speaker 1: to know that I got this, to know that I
Speaker 1: got cancer, to know that uh I could be dying.
Speaker 1: We don't want to know that. As we're talking about HfV,
Speaker 1: especially Don Juan, it's always bragging. Yet man, I bag
Speaker 1: this bag the other night. Why I got this bad
Speaker 1: big store. I got my little young big shover ya,
Speaker 1: I got my old bigs over here, them type the dude. Subconsciously,
Speaker 1: they don't want to know because when they're gonna take
Speaker 1: their test, they get the thing about every slimy, creepy
Speaker 1: crawl a book of band that they don't ring across
Speaker 1: in their lifetime, and they start thinking like damn, I
Speaker 1: wonder where the funk's yet right now? Or this one
Speaker 1: looking skin. They get the call of people, what you've
Speaker 1: been up to? You good? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What's yeah? And they do that, bro, and then the
Speaker 1: thing you know is my thing is this. It's just
Speaker 1: your responsibility as a decent human being into the people
Speaker 1: that you love to go make sure that you can
Speaker 1: be here I go get man, I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: once I hit forty, I started on the dartor more
Speaker 1: than ever. If I had a little mark of my skin.
Speaker 1: I was taking my ass to the doctor. Man with
Speaker 1: this this road, that's you sure, We'll give me some
Speaker 1: blood work just to make sure. I was mad. It's hell,
Speaker 1: my motherfucking doctor. She gave me your physical and I said, well,
Speaker 1: when you go do the blood work, I need to
Speaker 1: know everything that's going on with me. They still have you?
Speaker 1: Have you? You You had a price state check at though.
Speaker 1: Yeah all that dog, Yeah, I did too, bro, like forty.
Speaker 1: I think it was forty folk, Bro, I got a
Speaker 1: little Asian doctor. Man just just traumatized me. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I'm gonna take you. I don't like
Speaker 1: it because I had one of them big turkeys doctors
Speaker 1: that came in just here he was with everything. He
Speaker 1: took this finger wrong like my thump myself. Oh man, no, man,
Speaker 1: ain't no other way you can do this with no
Speaker 1: club work, he said, And before hen he said, that's okay.
Speaker 1: You would not stuck up? Man? What is your doing?
Speaker 1: What is you do? Know? Hey? Thank God? Man shout
Speaker 1: out to shout out to Dr lu Man, I had
Speaker 1: no mine, little Asian sweet woman, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that, But I remember I was feeling violated and
Speaker 1: of course as me and you know we we we
Speaker 1: don't funk with that. You know, we got that nobody
Speaker 1: playing with our boot dog. That's what made the toxic
Speaker 1: masculinity kick in. But you know it works against us.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I told my homeboys to man, that's the
Speaker 1: thing too, man, we got to share the information and
Speaker 1: try to encourage each other to to get checked out
Speaker 1: and to be proactive and preventative healthcare. You know, because
Speaker 1: I was telling my homeboys, like I made it a joke.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, like, man, my little doctor violated me. Bro.
Speaker 1: But I was like, man, y'all need to do that
Speaker 1: because I know a few guys that I went to
Speaker 1: high school with it died from process prostate cancer. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, so you know a lot
Speaker 1: of these things, you know, I early detection, you know,
Speaker 1: even just with like for instance, I I had, uh,
Speaker 1: I had, I was pre diabetic. Even though I'm in shape,
Speaker 1: I eat right and I exercise, if I hadn't went
Speaker 1: and got a physical and seeing that my A one
Speaker 1: C was elevated. Then you know, I very well could
Speaker 1: have become a diabetic. But because I caught it quick,
Speaker 1: I was able to make the necessary dietary changes and
Speaker 1: got it under control. So now I ain't got to
Speaker 1: take insulin and no ship like that. So you know,
Speaker 1: preventative healthcare, man, we gotta we gotta really support each
Speaker 1: other with that and push that in and like like,
Speaker 1: like Big Jay said, everybody don't have insurance. This is true,
Speaker 1: but there are programs is out there. You know, if
Speaker 1: you if you want to get it done, you know
Speaker 1: you would seek out the information and their programs that
Speaker 1: support people, you know, to get physicals and and get
Speaker 1: what they need health wise. M And that's and that's
Speaker 1: the real stuff. And I'm gonna tell you another thing
Speaker 1: you can do we can HV. Another silent killer is
Speaker 1: high blood pressure. I'm gonna tell your brother something. Shout
Speaker 1: out to my boy Willie Mammon from the Long Beach Movement.
Speaker 1: He's fighting for his life tonight. Um. He was at
Speaker 1: his job and him and his supervisor is real cool.
Speaker 1: The supervisor was joking with him, was heaven sometimes to
Speaker 1: come to work early if he had a show and
Speaker 1: you know, be on his desk in his office, you know,
Speaker 1: taking that little last little minute that before he started shift.
Speaker 1: So it's what it was, jumping him like, man, I
Speaker 1: told you about going on our party and come to work.
Speaker 1: Wake up and he noticed he wouldn't respond. He woke
Speaker 1: up and the dude was just real. Despond had a
Speaker 1: glaze over his eye. He had a heart attext. So
Speaker 1: now he's in the hospital under a medicated coma, fighting
Speaker 1: for his life. I'm gonna tell you something about them
Speaker 1: high blood pressure fields. They make your head her sometimes
Speaker 1: they mess with your manhood. Gonna tell you something. You
Speaker 1: ain't knocking too much down't no way on with you
Speaker 1: didn't hear no more? Go get you, Go get your
Speaker 1: blood pressure checked out, man, Go get you go get
Speaker 1: your cold and checked out. Man. Go know your status, man,
Speaker 1: Go know you safe so you can walk around this
Speaker 1: motherfucker with confidence. You know you're here. So what's a
Speaker 1: van of something hits me? I can know I'm perfectly healthy. Man. Health,
Speaker 1: Health is wealth man at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: because you think about it, bro, you got what was
Speaker 1: it Steve Jobs? He had all the money in the world,
Speaker 1: but he couldn't buy good health. You know, he would
Speaker 1: try to be able to have a week of just
Speaker 1: feeling good. And when you think about cancer patients, you
Speaker 1: think about people who actually died of age, and you
Speaker 1: know all these terminal illnesses. Imagine just you know you're
Speaker 1: having a common code and how bad you feel them first,
Speaker 1: you know too three days. Imagine feeling a hundred times
Speaker 1: worse than that all the time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know I didn't have all of it at
Speaker 1: one time. I didn't add high blood pressure, high colester. Wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die, Betty my a one he was at eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm talking about with all the four of
Speaker 1: these things going on with me, and with motherfucker trying
Speaker 1: to snap that globe and tell me to bend over.
Speaker 1: He gotta check. No, you're not, I may do. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: putting me to sleep. And they did think then when
Speaker 1: I was days you made him put you to sleep
Speaker 1: and do it. Hell yeah, you ain't gonna check that,
Speaker 1: So what at least you got it done. Though. I
Speaker 1: had to realize that with all of these things, and
Speaker 1: I listened to that doctor tell me, man, you can
Speaker 1: lose your eyesight and everything else if you don't big this.
Speaker 1: Within a year, they took me off high cholester roll pills.
Speaker 1: They took me off the high blood pressure pills. The
Speaker 1: only thing I got now is my my diabetes. Now
Speaker 1: that I have walked away from the motorcycle, set my
Speaker 1: one see us at a seven and a half eight.
Speaker 1: And I'm still trying to get a lawyer. I don't
Speaker 1: want to take this other injection to do that. I
Speaker 1: want to do it naturally. I want to try to
Speaker 1: let me think this, let me do this. Well, it's hard.
Speaker 1: What did you do? What did you do to correct
Speaker 1: those things? And what are you doing to correct your
Speaker 1: a I stopped beating a lot of handburger food on
Speaker 1: that fright ship. I stopped beating all that ship. I
Speaker 1: quit the bread, the rice and all that ship. And
Speaker 1: I was able to lose the weight because I was
Speaker 1: at that time, I was two eight seven. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: two forty now. So I had to I had to
Speaker 1: lose the weight. I had to correct my diet. When
Speaker 1: I ate, I only eight portions. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't need to figures have a big old feast
Speaker 1: and constantly eight after twelve o'clock. So I had to
Speaker 1: change a lot of ship because if I didn't, I
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be here right now. And if I would,
Speaker 1: I'll be doing this ship. Yeah, yeah, able to Congrats
Speaker 1: to you, though, that's difficult to change that, So bro,
Speaker 1: that's that. Yeah, congrats because we have to know. And
Speaker 1: I did this without without sucking, like really exercise, That's
Speaker 1: what I was about saying. I was about to say,
Speaker 1: if you start exercising on the regular, it'll get even better.
Speaker 1: That A one C would correct itself even more. He's
Speaker 1: got damn cigarettes and I gotta I gotta treadmill in
Speaker 1: my room. You use that, Yeah, my gresson used that
Speaker 1: motherfucker moon not do that. What I was gonna tell
Speaker 1: your mother will be on that motherfuck morning. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know how to do it, man, Put that motherfucker on
Speaker 1: two point five three point oh at the at the
Speaker 1: highest and just get a brisk walk. Do that ship like,
Speaker 1: do it past it. Do that ship on an empty
Speaker 1: stomach in the morning, and do it boy, thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: do it like you can do it every other day. Bro,
Speaker 1: your weight a drop and your A one C will
Speaker 1: start to correct I learned that because you know with
Speaker 1: all my other ship, like my my Rotator and all
Speaker 1: that ship. And you know, the EPI Durrows actually fucked
Speaker 1: me up because it started eating on my carliage and
Speaker 1: all that ship. So when you when he did the
Speaker 1: m R I on it, all you've seen was white dots,
Speaker 1: whereas nothing is all funked up. So you're losing your
Speaker 1: momentum and all of this ship. But a lot of
Speaker 1: that has to do with age. Now. You know, I
Speaker 1: had my major physical at fifty uh fifty five. I
Speaker 1: got another year and a half for my sixties. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, two years. So I man, I
Speaker 1: just had to figure it, especially with him. I know
Speaker 1: I gotta be alive. I want to see him graduate.
Speaker 1: I want to see his first girlfriend. So I gotta
Speaker 1: change a lot of ship. And I take them feels
Speaker 1: every day. That diabetic medicine, I take it every day
Speaker 1: I take I was doing two shots, he took me
Speaker 1: off in one. Now I'm just doing a one pin
Speaker 1: once a day dinner, So I know I'm getting better.
Speaker 1: Ain't kudos to you, bro, because I know you had
Speaker 1: to not only change what you were doing, but you
Speaker 1: had to change your mind, your mentality, and that's to
Speaker 1: do too. And that's the hardest part about it, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the biggest thing I had to learn.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie bro. I love taking down the
Speaker 1: boss plate. I love a good plate. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I give myself Thanksgiving to where I pretty much eat
Speaker 1: what I want to. But I've cut way back on
Speaker 1: the red meat because I just don't have to. But
Speaker 1: I still allow myself that occasional cheak like last night,
Speaker 1: you know, cause I'm driving ship again. I crept off
Speaker 1: the Timing Burger because I wanted some chili cheese fries
Speaker 1: so bad dog the double chili Burger. The ship is good,
Speaker 1: is delicious, but it's bad for you. You can't eat
Speaker 1: that ship every dingy because I remember, man, when I
Speaker 1: was maybe dollar thirty, I ballooned up like three five dollars.
Speaker 1: Every night Friday. I would come on, I would take
Speaker 1: down me some beer. I would have me at twelve
Speaker 1: pack in Henry wine. Are drink that motherfucker that I
Speaker 1: would go to the bugger fucking um Burger spot chili
Speaker 1: cheese fries, a big chili cheese fries. I wasn't fat
Speaker 1: because I was still lifting button. I was breathing hard
Speaker 1: all the time. We're using the stuff man, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is not gonna work. Dog, And
Speaker 1: I just gradually just started saying, you know what, I
Speaker 1: can have that maybe downalance, but you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: I don't need a medium. Maybe I'll just get me
Speaker 1: a small fries with a cheese burger. Yeah. You know
Speaker 1: what I tell people. You know what I tell people still,
Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, I'm forty six, right and
Speaker 1: so um and I didn't pick up a weight. I
Speaker 1: mean I was always athletic, but I didn't pick up
Speaker 1: away till I was thirty. And and that was because
Speaker 1: I think I thought I was having to get sell
Speaker 1: block ready. But that's a that's a whole another story.
Speaker 1: But I tell people, when you when you do the
Speaker 1: right thing, like ninety percent of the time, when you
Speaker 1: eat clean and you kind of exercise and you live
Speaker 1: a healthy lifestyle, then you can afford to indulge in
Speaker 1: that ship. You know, because I I pizza, I eat
Speaker 1: boyshit often, but I eat and I eat the right
Speaker 1: thing nine percent of the time. So when people see
Speaker 1: me eating hamburgers and fries, I eat McDonald's in and
Speaker 1: out all of that ship. But guess what, you know,
Speaker 1: my lifestyle is in the gym, so I can eat
Speaker 1: whatever because I'm just gonna burn it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I think understanding your body and and
Speaker 1: your your you're eating habits, and just how your life is,
Speaker 1: like I say, health as wealth. Man, Just excuse me,
Speaker 1: you know? Uh? Like like James said, portion control too, man,
Speaker 1: a lot like you said that play. Our culture is
Speaker 1: to eat. Like you know, I'm back in Kansas City
Speaker 1: right now, visiting for Thanksgiving, and the culture here is
Speaker 1: way different, my nigga. Like, I went to a restaurant earlier,
Speaker 1: right and I looked around the restaurant. Man of the
Speaker 1: restaurant was obese. You know what I'm saying, I'm the mother.
Speaker 1: I'm the only motherfucker in there eating grilled chicken. And
Speaker 1: we remember I'm from the Midwest too, so you know,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing for me. When I went back
Speaker 1: through and I hold on and I kept wondering, I
Speaker 1: kept saying, like I'm sitting in a chair and I
Speaker 1: kept thinking, like them, I'm in this booth. Why is
Speaker 1: the fucking table so far from the back of the booth.
Speaker 1: It's because it gott to fit all these OBEs. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: in there, you know what I mean. And I looked around, like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I'm the only one in here eating grilled chicken.
Speaker 1: Everybody else got these big gas place with gravy running
Speaker 1: down they fucking arms, and you know, and I know
Speaker 1: that's our culture, but you know, we gotta we gotta understand,
Speaker 1: I know, Hew, and listen for some of those that's
Speaker 1: listening to watching. I know. You know, sometimes especially when
Speaker 1: people are you know, kind of food challenged and on
Speaker 1: a budget, eating healthy can be expensive, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So even if you can't afford to always
Speaker 1: go to Whole Foods or whatever whatever, you know, like
Speaker 1: James said, portion control for what you do have, you know,
Speaker 1: and just you know that ship with exercise. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. When I went back to Io,
Speaker 1: when I was just there like maybe three four months ago,
Speaker 1: one thing I realized that I missed, man, because I
Speaker 1: got aunties. They plant their own greens in their backyard,
Speaker 1: They plant their own squashing and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: I had some greens, string bean, starf and they just
Speaker 1: remember they tasted different, man, because that stuff comes from
Speaker 1: their yard, and I know they make food so out
Speaker 1: of reach for our communities, like the good stuff. The
Speaker 1: average person on a budget can't afford to go grocery
Speaker 1: shop in the whole food. They gotta go to food
Speaker 1: for less. And I noticed I don't like me. I
Speaker 1: don't even shop for food for less because if you
Speaker 1: notice the quality, the food is so bad there. Even
Speaker 1: when you look at the ground beef and food for less,
Speaker 1: you let's say you buy a tin pound pack of
Speaker 1: ground beef. By the time you cook that motherfucker, there's
Speaker 1: so much oil and ship in there because it's just different.
Speaker 1: But when you go to an al per cents or
Speaker 1: Whole Foods or whatever, you fry the ground beef, you
Speaker 1: notice it's less fat. It's just like they give us
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst. Ship's think of the Black
Speaker 1: and Latino communities. When you go to the store, you
Speaker 1: buying me, you buy some ground I bought some ground
Speaker 1: beef and food for less because it was the only
Speaker 1: thing open one time, trying to make some spaghetti. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that ship was bad. I wanted
Speaker 1: to throw it away. I was like, it just smelt bad.
Speaker 1: I was like this is not good, man, And it's
Speaker 1: fatty as ship. You could see the fat like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. That's what I said. I want
Speaker 1: a five thing of ground beef dog when I swear
Speaker 1: that stuff is went from like this to like this,
Speaker 1: and it was just oil and the pin like a
Speaker 1: whole bout of oil there. And I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: it's just bad, bro. We have to really like and
Speaker 1: that sounds hard, bro. But a lot of that stuff
Speaker 1: is so out of access to us, man, Like I'm
Speaker 1: talking about even decent fruits and vegetables. That's why I
Speaker 1: tell people, you know what I missed, the basic stuff.
Speaker 1: I've been brought to complaining man. Sometimes the house because
Speaker 1: we wasn't rich, but moms would make contenners sometimes and
Speaker 1: that after lasts for a few days, she would make
Speaker 1: a big pot of beans and some hot water bread
Speaker 1: or some or some corn bread with the butter milk
Speaker 1: in it. I'm gonna tell you, man, I told her that.
Speaker 1: I said, my mama missed that so bad. When I
Speaker 1: come on, I wants you to make a part of
Speaker 1: beans and some corn bread, some buttermelk corn bread. Corn
Speaker 1: Bread is still good though I love corn bread because
Speaker 1: we ain't l a and start eating crossocks and ship though.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, bro. But you know what,
Speaker 1: no dog, the way we was raised, Bro, the way
Speaker 1: we was raised, Bro, I think it was just way
Speaker 1: more healthier. But this is what I want to leave
Speaker 1: my brothers out there with my sisters, my Latino brothers.
Speaker 1: Go get checked out, man, know your status. Yeah, go
Speaker 1: with your girl and barely that real conversation and say, look,
Speaker 1: I love you. We're gonna go respect each other and
Speaker 1: go be checked out. And when you do get checked
Speaker 1: out and you find out just that you're cool, don't
Speaker 1: be out there. That's not a permission to get a
Speaker 1: pass and go split out. You feel what I mean,
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. And if you out there running around,
Speaker 1: wrap a rubber around that motherfucker dog, protect yourself. Prevention
Speaker 1: where rubber because I'm gonna tell you right out I
Speaker 1: hear motherfucker's talk about the rubber pup. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this. Your stretch of rub arm big as a
Speaker 1: motherfucker Streux rubber rover. This that motherfucker want. So don't
Speaker 1: give me that bullshit. You ain't packing. On twelve fifteen,
Speaker 1: nicks thinking like you're thinking, nigger, that should have fixed
Speaker 1: your ass. I don't know they have pop with me.
Speaker 1: Look you by the night story things. I'm buying them
Speaker 1: finger things that that you know. N I'm just a yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't. Don't do that any funny, but don't y'all
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. And on that note, we you
Speaker 1: this motherfucker Gangster Chronicles mass a little well. That concludes
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