WEBVTT - Black Man in a Little Dress (with Devon Walker) RE-RELEASE

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, much like a black man in address.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about movie of me raising a white family

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<v Speaker 1>would be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you're just thinking about it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like baby again, come on, man, that's not a classic.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry half written.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that would be babies and yours are racist.

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<v Speaker 2>As money in turn stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't tell me, knig if you buck bitch, there

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<v Speaker 5>it is there it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 5>another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast that dives deep into the pockets of black

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 5>And we finally work to prove that we only know

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<v Speaker 5>the name Christmas Addicts because of white people's unquenchable thirst

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<v Speaker 5>for black death. That nigga did nothing in the Revolutionary War.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't contribute one bit, and for some fucking reason,

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<v Speaker 5>they keep putting him in our history books. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>reason for us to know the first man who died

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<v Speaker 5>in a war. They don't do that for any other war.

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<v Speaker 5>There's not another fucking war where you know the first

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<v Speaker 5>dude who died. But for some reason, the nigga that

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<v Speaker 5>dies in the Revolutionary War, they decide they gotta tell

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<v Speaker 5>every goddamn body. If that's not a conspiracy, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know what is? What about World War one?

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<v Speaker 5>World War one? That German chancellor, motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Archduke Ferdinand or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we barely know him.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know? Christmas addicts better than him.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Christmas addicts way better. You don't even know

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<v Speaker 5>what the Archduke looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, not at all. And I've seen so many drunks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's always drawn.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah they didn't, but they got pictures of Christmas ass

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<v Speaker 5>on the ground, bloody white people pointing like, yeah he did,

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<v Speaker 5>could have been there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>They love that Christmas and what the fuck is a Christmas?

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<v Speaker 5>I hate that they do this to us.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a made up fucking name.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, man, I'm Langston Kerman and I'm furious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm David Boy, and I'm equally upset.

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<v Speaker 2>We have.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a phenomenal guest here today who I hope

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<v Speaker 5>is equally enraged as as the two of us. He

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<v Speaker 5>better come in hot.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't play that ship if he's a Christmas ads apologizer.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a phenomenal comedian. He's hilarious. You know him from

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<v Speaker 5>from all kinds of work, most of which were not

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<v Speaker 5>allowed to promote anymore because of dual strikes that are happening.

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<v Speaker 5>But but most importantly, you know him from when It's

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<v Speaker 5>Happening Saturday Night Live. He's a cast member on that show.

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<v Speaker 5>He's hilarious. Please give it up for Devin Walker.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I didn't know if I was supposed to pop in.

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<v Speaker 7>But also, like Christmas Addicts, he is high schools named

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<v Speaker 7>after him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, that's crazy, Like how do

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<v Speaker 1>you even justify that to like, is there a naming commission?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know how you name him

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<v Speaker 2>high school?

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<v Speaker 5>Ain't no Archduke Ferdinand high School?

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<v Speaker 2>It would make more sense because like, why does he

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<v Speaker 2>get a school? What Chrispy Dude? That means that makes

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<v Speaker 2>me feel like I could get a school.

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<v Speaker 5>David Bory David Borrie Elementary.

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<v Speaker 2>Is high school? Don't you that to me?

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<v Speaker 5>You small?

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<v Speaker 2>But you're like, we're dreaming, and we're dreaming. We're dreaming.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I feel like you could get a

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<v Speaker 6>building at like a performing arts academy.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it makes it sounds like the school, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to play full back at Bory.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds that does sound good. Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think. I don't think Kerman is ever gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have a nice to it. Yeah, and I'm a big fan.

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<v Speaker 5>I like me, but but I just don't nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be like, yeah, it was a swooping at Kerman and

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<v Speaker 5>that sounds icky.

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<v Speaker 7>Really, I think I could hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear it too.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I gotta maybe I gotta do some self reflection.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe there's some self hatred inside of this that I got.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a nice sounding name. Damn.

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<v Speaker 7>The high school I went to was called Flugerville High School.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what did he die?

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<v Speaker 6>He was like the guy who created the town that

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<v Speaker 6>I grew up in, like the town I love.

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<v Speaker 7>I grew up in a town outside of Austin called Fluerville, Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>Fuck, So you just had a local, a local man

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<v Speaker 5>high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's I don't think that's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>man founded a town.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big thing to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's Nah, this is grossing me out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it. What did Christmas do? Nothing? And

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<v Speaker 2>that's my point.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let the man be dead.

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<v Speaker 5>Stop writing about him and telling everybody he got beat up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I bet his cousins and like brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 2>hated it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>The Addicts family is not happy about what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 2>Devin.

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<v Speaker 5>You you you came to us with a conspiracy theory

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<v Speaker 5>that uh oh oh oh, what is this? We have

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<v Speaker 5>Christmas Addicts updates. That that is Christmas Addicts High School.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, only it barely in frame.

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<v Speaker 2>This is rough.

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<v Speaker 6>Sports at the at the bottom, it says a storied legacy,

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<v Speaker 6>our legacy of serving African American students in Indianapolis continues today.

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<v Speaker 2>God damn. So it's basically like just go here and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna die.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my other problem with Christmas Attics High School is

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<v Speaker 5>that it never is in service of white children. You

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, Like they never You never send

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<v Speaker 5>your white child to Christmas Attics High School because y'all

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<v Speaker 5>know that's fucked up. You know that's not a brand

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<v Speaker 5>you want to attach yourself to.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a loser.

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<v Speaker 5>Just let him be a loser. He got shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I only want people to talk about it if I

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<v Speaker 2>go out.

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<v Speaker 5>Cool, Come on, man, do no cool neo kicks.

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<v Speaker 2>He just got shot. He probably didn't even have like

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<v Speaker 2>a spin started. You probably even know it was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he thought it wasn't gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Was like walking up here, shoot me. And then they

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<v Speaker 5>saw that line of white men in blue suits and

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<v Speaker 5>one nigga and they were like shoot him and nobody

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<v Speaker 5>and he is so alone. Nobody even went, oh, no Christmas.

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<v Speaker 5>They yeah, you know, they're like, oh, monkey Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, who's gonna dance after something?

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<v Speaker 5>Who's gonna play the spoons?

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<v Speaker 7>I love so much this podcast on Will Ferrell's network.

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<v Speaker 5>That's okay. I don't think he listens.

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<v Speaker 2>Impossible.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope he does.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't think he's checking in. I think he'd

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<v Speaker 5>be a little worried about what was happening on this

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<v Speaker 5>side of town.

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<v Speaker 2>Well basically saying it in his name.

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<v Speaker 5>At the end of every episode, we say praise Will Ferrell.

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<v Speaker 1>The views and opinions expressed by this podcast do reflect Will.

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<v Speaker 2>Ferrey almost exclusive. Yeah, what do you think we got it?

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<v Speaker 5>Devin? You came to us with a conspiracy theory that

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<v Speaker 5>has zero to do with Christmas addicts, but I will

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<v Speaker 5>say is a conspiracy we've we've touched on in the podcast,

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<v Speaker 5>but I was surprised to find out we had not

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<v Speaker 5>fully unpacked, and so this is an exciting day where

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<v Speaker 5>we get to do a pretty classic I would say,

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<v Speaker 5>conspiracy theory. You said, my mama told me black man

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<v Speaker 5>have to wear a dress in order to succeed him.

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<v Speaker 4>How is my man supposed to shmeet his meet with

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<v Speaker 4>this ship?

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<v Speaker 2>Bro? What the.

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<v Speaker 5>To jump in?

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you.

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<v Speaker 5>Process whatever that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was from any direction.

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<v Speaker 7>I really wasn't ready for that.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, I really thought you were gonna pull like

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<v Speaker 6>a quote from Kat Williams. I really wasn't exactly you

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<v Speaker 6>hit me. You hit me with a spin move. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what Christmas Adict should have had, but.

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<v Speaker 2>A dunk.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I mean I feel like I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, that's why I submitted a couple because

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<v Speaker 6>I would have I figured y'all probably would have done

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<v Speaker 6>this one already. But it's definitely a thing that I

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<v Speaker 6>grew up here about, and it's a thing that like

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<v Speaker 6>I was literally I was in Houston this weekend and

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<v Speaker 6>I took a Huber to the airport and the guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Was like, oh, well, brought you to Houston.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh, I was doing shows, I do

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<v Speaker 6>stand up and he was just like, they get that

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<v Speaker 6>dress on.

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<v Speaker 7>You yet, don't let him do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet.

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<v Speaker 7>Dam yeah, he said, he said, he said it's coming.

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<v Speaker 6>And so like that is the thing that I've always

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<v Speaker 6>especially like my mom told me this when I was young,

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<v Speaker 6>but like especially like the older I get and the

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<v Speaker 6>more the further I get in comedy, that keep being

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<v Speaker 6>like it's on his way, that dress, the dress coming

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<v Speaker 6>for you dog, you know, And they always they always

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<v Speaker 6>got like a video reference. They always got like Chappelle

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<v Speaker 6>talking about it or like all these guys have like

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<v Speaker 6>real theories on it, and it's.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you say they is the I know you

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<v Speaker 5>said your mom is apparently one of the sources. But

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<v Speaker 5>but is this a mostly family? Is this friends? Is

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<v Speaker 5>this broadened out to your larger Texas community? Like where

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<v Speaker 5>is this coming from?

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<v Speaker 7>This is mostly strangers? That's who tell you it's most

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<v Speaker 7>It's mostly people that I've never spoken to before or

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<v Speaker 7>in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah or after?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>And that like one time, the first the first TV

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<v Speaker 6>money I ever got, I went and bought a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of gold teeth.

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<v Speaker 7>That was like the first thing that I did.

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<v Speaker 5>Good for you, young man.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, really, before I before I figured out my

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<v Speaker 6>health insurance, I went to go buy gold teeth from

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<v Speaker 6>from this from this woman named Helen, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 6>is this Yeah, this is this stud woman who makes

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<v Speaker 6>gold teeth and like a were like a warehouse, like

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<v Speaker 6>an upstairs like a warehouse.

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<v Speaker 5>And wait, so she's gay.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>She's gay and also warning you of the emasculation of

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<v Speaker 5>the black man.

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<v Speaker 7>Bro. She was really concerned about it.

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<v Speaker 6>She's a stud though, you're right, which is like its

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<v Speaker 6>own kind of separate Yeah, you know, it's its own

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<v Speaker 6>kind of separate category.

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<v Speaker 2>I met him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're familiar with a few from opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've been bullied by a few.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, she was really just going in.

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<v Speaker 6>She was really just she was just like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>she's she was like, look, I see you doing good,

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<v Speaker 6>but like, I know you probably want to get to

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<v Speaker 6>that top level and you know what they're about to

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<v Speaker 6>make you do.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't let them do it. It's like, I don't with y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Would y'all ever do it?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I know we're going to get here this fast, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I was worried. I was worried about this this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Bory, do you want to start? Do you want

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<v Speaker 5>to answer for yourself first?

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<v Speaker 2>It's so complicated.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm feeling the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's like, you know, people got uncles, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard, right because I don't think I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything inherently shameful about dressing up like a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think it's that bad, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>also part of me want, part of me does worry

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be this thing of like an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of relinquishing some control. So do I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Ultimately? I don't think so, But I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would. But I'm also like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>far outside of how my humor. I'm not like a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even dress I wouldn't me wearing a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>costume is also something I really wouldn't be. It's, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, silly is not really my

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<v Speaker 1>stick anyways, so it would be it would be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>out of character, and like it would also be out

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<v Speaker 1>of character for me to dress up like anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, Right, You're not You're not

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<v Speaker 5>a part of the dress up gang. You ain't You

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<v Speaker 5>ain't doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I look wild physically anyways. You don't even.

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<v Speaker 5>Put a T shirt on my man, he got it,

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<v Speaker 5>that's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be able to be taken. I'm you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be taken serious like I'm a weird

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<v Speaker 1>looking guy anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, no, I don't want to. I would't

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<v Speaker 2>dress up in a chicken suit either. Yeah, I get that.

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<v Speaker 5>I put a chicken suit on. Funny to me, dress

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<v Speaker 5>me like chicken any day of the week. I Daddy's in.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say that I feel the same struggle inside

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<v Speaker 5>of this, of both there's a part of me that

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<v Speaker 5>wants to be able to do it just out of

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<v Speaker 5>like rejection of all the sort of homophobic roots inside

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<v Speaker 5>of this argument.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be free.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to sort of be beholden to a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of problematic perspectives inside of all of these things.

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<v Speaker 5>I do, in my heart of hearts, believe that some

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<v Speaker 5>the intention of it, though, is coming from a malicious place, right,

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<v Speaker 5>that like the want to see black men in dresses

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<v Speaker 5>is not coming from a place of gender equality and

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<v Speaker 5>sort of sexual openness. It truly is just looking them

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<v Speaker 5>silly niggas over there in dresses and.

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<v Speaker 8>So yes, you ugly and I don't want that to

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<v Speaker 8>happen either, And so I'm torn and I should admit

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<v Speaker 8>and I will admit that that I want.

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<v Speaker 2>For a live show.

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<v Speaker 5>For a live show.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh does that make a difference, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>But it felt important. It felt important to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I'm going to frame it.

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<v Speaker 7>This was not pre recorded.

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<v Speaker 5>Just man, this was not recorded, and there's no evidence

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<v Speaker 5>of it except maybe one picture. But for a live show,

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<v Speaker 5>I dressed up as Sylvia Plath because we had to

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<v Speaker 5>like dress up as an author and do like funny

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<v Speaker 5>like made up readings of their ship. So I dressed

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<v Speaker 5>up as Sylvia Plath and had a wig and a

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<v Speaker 5>dress and an oven in my hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Hilarious, I was hoping you yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like a tiny easy bag oven that I was

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<v Speaker 5>carrying around, because you know, that's how.

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<v Speaker 2>She killed herself. I used to have a joke about that.

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<v Speaker 5>About her blowing or melting her head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, early days.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like you didn't answer straight up though,

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<v Speaker 2>what'd you do it today?

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<v Speaker 5>Current? I think, in my current, in my current today,

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<v Speaker 5>I was. My instinct is no because of the so

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<v Speaker 5>many of the associations. But my want is to get

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<v Speaker 5>to a place where, yes, I can do it without

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<v Speaker 5>feeling trapped inside of all the bullshit around it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I land kind of on that side of it,

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<v Speaker 6>right because it's like because it's like I actually don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>I actually I personally really care about wearing a dress

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<v Speaker 6>like I would honestly. It is funny, like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, have you seen Man.

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<v Speaker 7>Jouanna Man?

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<v Speaker 6>And White Chicks came out when I was like eleven

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<v Speaker 6>years old, and it's just like, yeah, those that ship

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<v Speaker 6>was huge. So it's like I actually don't feel any

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<v Speaker 6>opposition to it, but I just know how much like

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<v Speaker 6>I know that in the event that I were to

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<v Speaker 6>put on a dress somehow, that would end up being

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<v Speaker 6>a huge hit. And then i'd have and then every

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<v Speaker 6>African uber driver that I came across, and now now

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<v Speaker 6>he's looking at me wild you know how I'm feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>You would look you would look funny as a lady,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the issue.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 7>I know I'd be a big ass lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you're so.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm a six foot three lady. And then

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing any stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm wearing a cart that's you know, like our linebacker

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<v Speaker 5>that's funny.

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<v Speaker 7>There's already something there to it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's like, but yeah, I just I got I

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<v Speaker 6>got I got uncles and cousins and a brother that like,

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<v Speaker 6>it's not even that I really care so much about

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<v Speaker 6>what they think.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just like I don't want to have to keep

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<v Speaker 7>talking to them about it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying, it's gonna be it's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>come up so much that I feel like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>fuck my life up.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to keep going to the barber shop

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, things more complicated that I don't even

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<v Speaker 5>don't I don't even talk at the barbershop. I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like, you know, I ain't one of them that

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<v Speaker 5>be chiming in and riffing and all this ship. I

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<v Speaker 5>keep to myself. I just let them do what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>And I want to be able to stay quietly an

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<v Speaker 5>observer inside of this toxic space. I don't need to

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<v Speaker 5>become the subject of the haircuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they they're already looking at me. Funny, because like

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<v Speaker 1>I put out this video and the nuggets one and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what did you do? I didn't think it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching it and then I put the video

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<v Speaker 1>out and I guess the way that the noise that

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<v Speaker 1>I made.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Like so like I can't, I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>also put a dress on?

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<v Speaker 7>What what noise did you make in video?

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<v Speaker 2>If you buy it, if you buy tickets to one

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<v Speaker 2>of our live shows, I'm playing for you.

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was that bad. He but like

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, because when they're telling it, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>telling it to other people in there and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you was like like, like I voted.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not what happened. Hold on, yo, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 9>This is longer than I remember, so you know, I

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<v Speaker 9>got a little carry it away.

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<v Speaker 2>But just to say I can't I can't also wear

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<v Speaker 2>a dress. That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's so much homophobia that they were crew that

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<v Speaker 5>on a celebratory day in in in Denver. They were

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<v Speaker 5>like this niggas gay.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best times in my life. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>be excited.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't just let a real, real reaction come out

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<v Speaker 5>of your body. No, you still got to be a man.

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<v Speaker 5>Posturing as a man while you celebrate the happiest thing

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<v Speaker 5>that's ever happened to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it was that bad. You guys

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<v Speaker 2>think it was that bad. It was.

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<v Speaker 5>It didn't sound crazy to me, But in context of

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<v Speaker 5>barbershopships are revving up.

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<v Speaker 2>To get you your back alone. Now, Yeah, it's about

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<v Speaker 2>to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>It's about to happen, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's how that's all. It's that's all it's sound like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know what.

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<v Speaker 6>The fun up thing about these those kind of environments too,

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<v Speaker 6>is like you know, we're all like men who live

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<v Speaker 6>in like city, like we don't care, Like I don't care.

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<v Speaker 7>Like it's like you guys can call me gay if

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<v Speaker 7>you want. But then it's like I don't think I care.

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<v Speaker 6>But then as soon as people start saying shit like that,

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<v Speaker 6>like if they started doing that at the barbershop, I

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<v Speaker 6>know I would turn on them.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I ain't really nah, I mean I ain't.

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<v Speaker 7>I ain't what you mean. Like, I'm like, I know I.

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<v Speaker 6>Would go into that mode and and I'd be disappointed

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<v Speaker 6>in myself because I'm better.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I think we we don't care because we have

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<v Speaker 5>created these sort of liberal bubbles for ourselves. But if

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<v Speaker 5>you've spent any real time outside of these havens of

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<v Speaker 5>sort of like of selling libration and respect and whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>it turns into a very different energy. Like it feels

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<v Speaker 5>it feels crazy to try to stand up for what's

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<v Speaker 5>right when you're put in circumstances where nobody else believes

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<v Speaker 5>any of that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it makes your voice sound even higher,

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<v Speaker 1>like actually, like nobody wants that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, it's it's rough, So it sounds like Devin

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<v Speaker 5>inside of this you are. You are not a believer

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily in the grander conspiracy, but you are sort of

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<v Speaker 5>wary of the implications of the conspiracy in your own life,

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<v Speaker 5>the sort of fallout that can come from it.

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<v Speaker 6>That is a much more academic way of putting it

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<v Speaker 6>than I could have, So I appreciate you saying it

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<v Speaker 6>instead of me.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess the best follow up question I have for

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<v Speaker 5>that is, what do we do about this? Is this

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<v Speaker 5>something that you feel like can be change? Because niggas

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<v Speaker 5>don't really wear dresses anymore, Like besides like Instagram sort

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<v Speaker 5>of like the the you know skit motherfuckers like niggas

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<v Speaker 5>and dresses ain't a thing. On TV the way it

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<v Speaker 5>used to be in part because of this constant barrage

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<v Speaker 5>of homophobic uncles being like, don't let this happen to you.

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<v Speaker 5>So like, do you think we can ever change that perspective?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh? I don't. I think no, no, no, well.

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<v Speaker 6>No, probably I wanted to be like, yeah, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>once the once these old niggas get out the way,

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<v Speaker 6>then like you know, the younger people will like be

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<v Speaker 6>okay with But actually again, I was just I was

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<v Speaker 6>just when I was in Houston.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I'm from Texas.

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<v Speaker 6>I grew up there, and like I have a chunk

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<v Speaker 6>where I just sort of talk about like some like

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<v Speaker 6>loosely gay ideas, and it turned the room in such

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<v Speaker 6>a crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, like voting or something.

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<v Speaker 7>It turned the room in such a crazy way. I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, I forget I'm from here, and I'd be

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<v Speaker 7>forgetting about homophobia. I'll be forgetting about that is like

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<v Speaker 7>much more the norm.

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<v Speaker 1>Than like, you know, a lot of dude that's their

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<v Speaker 1>whole sense of humor, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like, no, have a sports show that is

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<v Speaker 5>entirely dedicated to almost talking about sports, but then getting

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<v Speaker 5>distracted by the gay things that the other person said.

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<v Speaker 5>If you've if you've never watched Cameron Sports Show, it

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<v Speaker 5>literally is them being like, yo, he had a great

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<v Speaker 5>game yesterday. Pause, and then the other dude being like, yo,

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<v Speaker 5>you wild being you were being crazy killing You can't

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<v Speaker 5>say the nigga had a good game.

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<v Speaker 2>You win.

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<v Speaker 1>Killing a good game is crazy talking about like other

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<v Speaker 1>things men have said that week.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like Jack or somebody said something that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he said that bah it is they're like fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're fifty for sure, fifty and one of them

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<v Speaker 5>used to be a pastor kind of it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So so to.

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<v Speaker 5>Your point, I don't know that there's healing on the

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<v Speaker 5>other side of this bory. Do you feel differently? Do

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<v Speaker 5>you feel like there's healing to be found somewhere?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's doable. I think that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like that's the way everything is pushing

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<v Speaker 1>right is, like those are the boundaries that are getting

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<v Speaker 1>pushed more than everything right now. I think like across

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<v Speaker 1>the board, you know. So I do think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>redemption for it. I also think some people are able

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with it. Remember when Bust of Rhymes

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<v Speaker 1>wore addressed and that was cool, Like nobody seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>have any I don't know if it's because he's a

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<v Speaker 1>giant Jamaican.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how he got away with it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's like space for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, I feel like the whole late nineties bust

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<v Speaker 5>of Rhymes was in like a geisha and ship.

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<v Speaker 7>That's true.

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<v Speaker 5>No is that a fucking thing?

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<v Speaker 6>Buster Rhymes and Andre three thousand have seemed to be

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<v Speaker 6>immune from the rest of it, like they said, shielded off. Also,

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<v Speaker 6>it feels like it's a different thing when a comedian

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<v Speaker 6>does it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 5>More I think, yeah, take issue with I think some

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<v Speaker 5>of it is is that those are genuinely weird motherfuckers,

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<v Speaker 5>versus what it feels like when a comedian does it.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a little more of this was put on you.

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<v Speaker 5>This was this was asked of you by a power

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<v Speaker 5>that be, Whereas like young Thug put on a dress

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 5>because young Thug thought he looked pretty, and who's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>tell him otherwise he looked gorgeous and and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>gonna tell him he didn't either way.

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<v Speaker 1>I I also think about this with the comedian aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that is like an old humor trope of

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<v Speaker 1>a man dressed a like. White guys do it too

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I mean, in general, no one's doing it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but white comedians used to do it all. Missus Doubtfire

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<v Speaker 1>was one of my favorite movies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, there's there's a Yeah, there there's a there's

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<v Speaker 5>a few great examples, iconic examples of white men doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say it doesn't feel quite as pervasive in

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<v Speaker 5>the white community as it does in the black community.

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<v Speaker 5>But maybe that's just because there are more of them

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<v Speaker 5>and and there are less of us. So it's a

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<v Speaker 5>numbers game.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean yeah, because because when you when you really

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<v Speaker 6>think about the black men in the dress thing, I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like people really point to like four people, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's like not really more of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Big black black dressmen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, who's the mount rushmore of Niggason dresses?

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<v Speaker 2>That would I mean, it's we got we got Martin Laurie,

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<v Speaker 2>uh huh oh yeah, big Mama's house.

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<v Speaker 7>We got oh, we have Big Mama's house and on

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<v Speaker 7>and he was a what's her name on the show?

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<v Speaker 2>No, what we should go to? We should go to

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<v Speaker 2>ad break before we do this come back, so.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll leave a little cliffhanger here for everybody that's listening.

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<v Speaker 5>We have Martin Lawrence as number one on the the

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<v Speaker 5>Mount Rushmore. But when we come back, we'll be back

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<v Speaker 5>with more Devin Walker more, my mama told me, and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll get the rest the three remaining Mount Rushmore contributors. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we are back with Devin Walker, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>about to give us his mouth rushmore of niggas and

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<v Speaker 2>dresses comedic or otherwise, no, just comedic, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I feel like so I feel like we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 6>We gotta go Martin Lawrence because he was he was

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<v Speaker 6>in Dragon on Martin and so many characters.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so he did that. Uh, we gotta go, we

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<v Speaker 7>gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Fox, Mmmm, oh yeah, Wanda was funny, was very funny.

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<v Speaker 7>I would argue, it's always funny. That's that's I think

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<v Speaker 7>the problem is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I think you're right, it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>funny bit.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think I think a bunch of white executives

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<v Speaker 5>at the table also would make that argument.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Carrey also did it on that show.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't remember that, and Jim Carrey ain't did it since,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that that's sort of the point, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Jim Carrey was then allowed to go, you know, do

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of other things that did not involve the dress,

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<v Speaker 5>whereas black men are sometimes positioned in a way where

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<v Speaker 5>they have to keep themselves in the dress for the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? How you feel about? What are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about? I don't I don't agree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying I'm not saying it's my argument. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying that that is the rand Er argument is like

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 5>you become beholden to sort of like the wants of

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 5>white expectations. And sometimes it's putting on address again. Sometimes

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 5>it's doing a fucked up movie. Sometimes it's just a

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 5>movie where you got a date a white lady and

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 5>you raise a white family, but you black, and you

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 5>don't never acknowledge it. Like I think that's what the

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<v Speaker 5>conspiracy theory is doing. Is to stay rich, you keep

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 5>doing the white man's bidding, and the best way of

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 5>showing you're willing to do his bidding is to put

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<v Speaker 5>on a dress.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, shit, Like that always makes me think of that.

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<v Speaker 6>I always think about the movie The blind Side. I

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<v Speaker 6>think about that movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sure, because like if you ever.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the guy who they based it off of, like

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 6>in the in the movie, they make him look like

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<v Speaker 6>he could barely talk.

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<v Speaker 2>They make him look like, yeah, he was just sure,

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<v Speaker 2>just like a bohemian idiot.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they make him look like you couldn't talk or

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<v Speaker 7>read or write or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>This family like taught him, like they made it seem

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<v Speaker 6>like he grew up in like a hut on the

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<v Speaker 6>side of the streets and they and they like.

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<v Speaker 7>Taught him how to like use a use a fork

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<v Speaker 7>like the that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, Michael, you got to button the shirt. You can't

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<v Speaker 5>just put it off.

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<v Speaker 7>And I just I feel like the verse of that,

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<v Speaker 7>just a black family adopting a stupid ass white kid,

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<v Speaker 7>would be so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everything, but I don't have any suntand lotions. That's

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<v Speaker 2>deep minute.

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<v Speaker 5>Seam right there, that's a lesson for both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And I take him back to his mother, like what's

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<v Speaker 2>he all right?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know the voice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they get.

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<v Speaker 5>So so okay, we we have Martin Lawrence, we.

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<v Speaker 7>Have Yep, we gotta we gotta go. Wayne's brothers.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow are they holding a single spots so they are.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, they're there there Se and Marlin or a

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<v Speaker 6>duo their package And then I'm the guy who did

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<v Speaker 6>you wanta man doesn't feel like the right, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not he's done it. In other movies he's done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it kind of breaks the theory because like he

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<v Speaker 6>didn't become like a big star.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't become he didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Know you know what I'm saying, Like he has some swing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I knew his name off the rip.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, true, but we didn't all know it.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember that once you said it. Once you said it,

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, ah, yeah that was.

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<v Speaker 2>His name, because it wasn't. He wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't in dragging that movie life, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>very feminine in life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 5>He was queer in life, and part of the reason

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<v Speaker 5>he wasn't in drag was and I think he does

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<v Speaker 5>actually dress up in.

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<v Speaker 2>Drag when they do the.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they they have that day where they get to

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 5>like invite guests and sort of have like a sexy

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 5>time and in the nightclub You're right, and they're dream

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 5>dreaming about uh the coke what was it the Coco

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<v Speaker 5>Coco room or that's right. Yeah, No, he he does

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<v Speaker 5>wear drag in life. I think multiple times, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't know, is there any big one? Is there any

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 6>big one I'm missing? I feel like those are the

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 6>big nineties.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Eddie Murphy feels like a glaring miss.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Listing Eddie Murphy as professor is almost exclus and norbit.

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<v Speaker 5>He He also does quite a bit of drag, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's sn l. He did a few characters where,

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<v Speaker 5>if I'm not mistaken, where he did drag. He's done

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<v Speaker 5>it a lot. He ain't he ain't missed no no

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 5>turns in it.

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<v Speaker 7>And he became and he was a giant, giant star.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, yeah, the biggest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, the best to ever do it in a dress?

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I put him on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah does and then and we'll get into the

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<v Speaker 5>research in a second. But does fat suit negate the dress?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it does. Okay, I kind of think

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<v Speaker 2>it does well. But like when Tyler Perry dresses his media, Oh.

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<v Speaker 6>My god, what we how do we that?

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<v Speaker 5>Because the nigga ain't funny to me? But I think

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 5>that's why I didn't listen. It made me laugh once.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, I go soft on Tyler Perry. He's got

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>me a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 7>They used to They used to make us watch those

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 7>plays after church.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I basically like church again, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly, So like I have I have fond memories as

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 6>a kid of watching the play specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I was trying to tell that if they weren't.

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<v Speaker 5>That bad, nah, like there there, you guys are mistaken.

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 5>And we just rewatched Diary of a Mad Black Woman

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 5>as for the podcast, and it was pretty neither one

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 5>of us enjoyed that experience.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 6>So I feel like you would appreciate Tyler Perry just

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 6>because he's a He's a champion of a light skin man.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, he put as.

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<v Speaker 6>The knights and shining armor in most of his films.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 6>It's a wrong and then a beautiful light skin nigga.

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<v Speaker 6>Michael Eally might have been one of them. That could

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 6>be you, bro, you better look. Hey, hey, mister Perry,

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 6>if you listening, les don't mean what he's saying.

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 7>You don't mean what he's.

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Saying, Devin.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Let me be clear.

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Let me be clear.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact that Tyler Perry is listening facts in his

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 5>film sometimes does not does not change my issues with

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 5>the quality of the films he's making. Are I skin

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 5>people the heroes in the story?

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, we are.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely we are objectively that is trip, But does that

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 5>make Tyler Perry a good filmmaker?

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 2>It does not.

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<v Speaker 5>It just means that sometimes sometimes the man is right. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, you want to tell them what we have?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. We have a two tone an alien dad hat,

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then we have

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<v Speaker 1>the enamel pen with the alien who has a koofie

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>on it since my mama told me. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>have t shirts that say proud little Mama, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Who you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to my

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<v Speaker 5>we would love for you to get some if you

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<v Speaker 5>haven't got it already, and we want you to have

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<v Speaker 5>all the sweet stuff, so get it. I did a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of research on your conspiracy that I'd love

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<v Speaker 5>to unpack with you. The most articulated, i would say,

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 5>most iconic breakdown of this conspiracy theory comes from that

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 5>two thousand and six interview that Dave Chappelle does on

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 5>Oprah where he explains his refusal to wear a dress

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 5>on set of Blue Streak that basically.

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 2>They didn't beat it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, weird, that's what And that's part of his argument

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 5>inside of this thing is that, like he showed up

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 5>one day on set, he'd been doing very well on

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 5>the film, having a good time, and then there's a

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 5>dress in his dressing room and he goes, hey, what's

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 5>this for? And they go, oh, Dave, we have this

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 5>really funny scene we just added. We think it'd be

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 5>hilarious if when Martin's breaking out of the jail, he

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 5>disguises or he hides behind you who is dressed as

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 5>a prostitute in using his words sex worker, and basically

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 5>says like this is the bit, so put on the dress.

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna shoot that, and Dave goes, no, I'm not

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 5>comfortable with that, and then producers get called in, then

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 5>the director gets called in. Dave's being told he's difficult

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 5>and unwilling to play ball for a very funny scene,

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 5>and ultimately he refuses, and then they immediately change the

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 5>script back to a scene where he doesn't have to

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 5>wear a dress and it all is resolved in ten minutes.

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 5>And so his argument is like, if it only took

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 5>ten minutes, then y'all already knew a different option for this.

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 5>You just wanted to degrade me and lessen me as

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 5>a black man.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's a black man thing or just

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 2>like a not great sense of humor thing within that

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 2>specific because we've all been in a position to get

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 2>like network type notes where you're like, but this is stupid,

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Saying, like like, like, I this.

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Is a weird side to be on this. I guess

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm on their side.

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you've always been on the producer side and the

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 5>strike whoa.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Hey, don't do that, No.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no no.

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:50.439
<v Speaker 2>And also you know how did.

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>All this travel begin a magica?

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, but I do. I do think there's a

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 2>case for the idea that like they're just like not funny.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 5>And that that is part of what Dave says in

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 5>the interview is that he goes like the guy goes,

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 5>this is a funny bit. So many great comedians have

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 5>done a bit like this, and he's like, well, if

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 5>they've done it, then attack and we can write something better.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 5>They go, you difficult motherfucker. So it's hard to know,

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 5>and I do air closer to the side of being like,

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 5>this is probably just hacky and just sort of lazy

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 5>writing more than it is like intentionally trying to take

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 5>down Dave Chappelle. That's or take power from Dave Chappelle.

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 5>That said, I don't think, if I'm being honest, that

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 5>I go, Oh, they didn't. They would have done that

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 5>same thing to to whoever the white counterpart to Dave

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 5>Chappelle is on a film by surprising him with a

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 5>dress scene out of nowhere.

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 7>Right, ever, put Michael Rappaport in the dress.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and and that'd be funny probably, but they're not

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 5>ever gonna try.

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they got Chris Rock.

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they got Chris Rock. And in fact, I'm glad

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 5>you brought that up because I made a list of

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 5>who I know so far based off of various versions

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 5>of Internet slewthing to have participated in wearing dresses. And

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 5>it's worth noting that some of this came from a

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 5>TikTok that I found that breaks down all of this

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 5>conspiracy theory, and that TikTok page is also includes videos

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:45.720
<v Speaker 5>called things like Transgenders Versus Real Women and my personal favorite,

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Black China sold his Soul to the Devil. So I

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 5>think it's a pretty progressive bunch. That's that's managing this

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 5>this account. But the list is pretty it's fucking crazy.

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:12.720
<v Speaker 5>There's Richard Pryor, Flip Wilson, Wesley Snipes, Ving Raims, Chris Tucker,

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:17.919
<v Speaker 5>Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, miguel A Nunez, Tyler Perry, Arsenio Hall,

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 5>all of the Wayans Brothers, Kevin Thompson, Kel Mitchell, Nick,

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 5>Nick Cannon, Jamie Fox, Brandon t. Jackson, Terry Crews, Kid Cutting,

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 5>Young Thug, a slew of other musicians. The list sort

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 5>of goes on from there, but but it is it

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.240
<v Speaker 5>is an impressive list.

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<v Speaker 2>Patricia O'Neill, Yeah, one.

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<v Speaker 7>God, you know that would have you know, that would

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 7>have been funny.

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Goddamn, he would be hilarious address objectively, they'd be so funny.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 6>And a Halloween episode of the Office from two thousand

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 6>and seven where the guys from the warehouse addresses that's

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 6>it's right, it's right, it's right there, it's it's already

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:03.320
<v Speaker 6>so funny.

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<v Speaker 5>Goddamn, but.

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:11.399
<v Speaker 6>You would have rocked the ship out of that, would

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 6>have that that might have got him the Emmy for real.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 5>They would have made him, They would have made him

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 5>serious regular if you put.

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 6>But I look also look that list. You can't all

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 6>those All black men wearing a dress are not created equal,

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying, Like kind of like you

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 6>was like Chris Rock wearing a dress on the Fresh Prints.

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 6>It's very different than young thug or like Kid Cutty

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 6>wearing a dress. I will say, I'm a big I'm

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 6>a big Kid Cutty fan. Did y'all see what do

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 6>you wear?

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 7>The dress?

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 5>He looked like ship to me.

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was like it was weird, Like it was

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 6>like I disagree with it on a like you you're

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 6>somehow making this thing not cool, Like I get you're,

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 6>like you think it's so cool that you're doing it

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 6>that it kind of makes me not like it.

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 7>That's the one that's the one that I minded the most.

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Weirdly, it bugged me. It was it it felt way

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 5>too much. Yeah, he he wanted to wear a dress

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 5>to to prove a point whatever, but he just didn't

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 5>look good.

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know. I don't think he chose to

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 2>write dress for his body.

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 5>No, he looked bad and it was like that weird

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 5>homage to Kurt Cobain, and like all of it was

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 5>just like you're you're doing too much ship at once. Bro,

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 5>Just just sing your little, your little sad songs.

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't need none of this.

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's that's that's the biggest problem I've actually had

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.280
<v Speaker 7>with a man in a dress is kick cutting.

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I don't think musicians should even be

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>in this conversation.

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 7>Exactly, because I think it's just what about? What about?

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 7>What about?

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 6>Like like Russell Westbrook, Do you think he's Do you

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:53.280
<v Speaker 6>think he's involved in this conversation?

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that you think? But he is hilarious,

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>He's very funny.

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 5>I will say that he is who the barbershop points

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 5>to now in a contemporary sense of this same conspiracy theory, though,

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 5>right that like, well at least for years now less

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 5>so now he's sort of aged out of like the

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.919
<v Speaker 5>shock and awe fashion and it is a little more

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 5>like grounded in his fashion. But when he was in

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 5>the height of his shock and awe fashion, they definitely

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 5>were like that nigga's being brainwashed by the powers that

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 5>be whatever, whatever.

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 6>It's all it's Russell Westbrook and it's little na sex.

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 6>Old niggas a really hard time with lown sex. They

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 6>really can't handle him being.

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you think it's because it's never been as blatant,

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 2>is that like in the.

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>In the you know what I mean, Like like like

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the Rodeo video is like that's like that's like aggressive.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that has been a ton of stuff

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>in like main culture that people have seen like that

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>from a black man.

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 5>A black man demonstrating like queer.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like they've been there, but it's never you don't

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't see it to that level.

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't think, right, Yeah, that's true.

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 7>He's the first like really big pop star that is

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 7>like a gay black.

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Man, right yeah, right right, And it's like expressed, you know,

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I feel like it would be like

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>things you hear people say, but never like like the

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>imagery like in the video and stuff like that.

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 5>No, Tevin cam Bro Kevin last year, Kevin Kemble just.

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 7>Came out like in like twenty twenty one.

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's had to work through a lot of ship

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 5>before he got comfortable being like I think I like men,

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 5>and we knew it.

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Tevin, you were tricking anybody now.

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 5>But when when we found out for real, Like not

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 5>when he announced it, but when we found out, the

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 5>industry turned on him hard in a way that I

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 5>don't think he ever fully recovered from.

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Damn, I didn't. I didn't know that.

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I would say that that at least

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.719
<v Speaker 5>my understanding, And some of this is coming from my mother,

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 5>who who fully unbiased source, But I think my understanding

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 5>was that Tevin Campbell sort of like when he was

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.760
<v Speaker 5>a cute kid and even as like a cool sexy

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 5>adult was singing about women, we loved him. And then

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 5>it became sort of a parent that he was queer,

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 5>and the industry stopped fucking with him the same way

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 5>that they used to like with them.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 2>They like, yeah, exactly.

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 6>It's it's funny because like, by that theory, the industry

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 6>kind of wants you to They want you to like

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.720
<v Speaker 6>seem gay on camera, but not be gay in real life.

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm about it.

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>That's where this song comes from, right, is It's like,

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the men who were in dresses, I

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like what you hear is that they're gay.

0:48:55.560 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 2>What they're what you're well, they're making them look gay, right, Yeah,

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think people thought Eddie Murphy was gay.

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, I think, and there was.

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.880
<v Speaker 2>There's other parts of that, there's other parts of that.

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 5>But I I hear you, Martin Lawrence was never being

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 5>called gay. Martin Lawrence was said to have been a

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 5>masculated for.

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Brainwashed.

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:29.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a tough it's tough because yeah,

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 5>I I don't know. Some of this does feel like

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 5>it's obviously propaganda, it's obviously manipulative. But I do think

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 5>some of the things that end up being greenlit or

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 5>celebrated or treated with a reverence to your point, Devin

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 5>of like, Yo, the next time I'm in a car,

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 5>I worry that my most famous thing is going to

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 5>be this one off bit that I did. Is a

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 5>real fear and and frankly is is one that that

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.399
<v Speaker 5>you can't just ignore or simply because you feel progressive

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 5>as it relates to queer rights and visibility and all

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 5>of that shit.

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think, yeah, add percent, that's why we

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 2>all were all pretty progressive. Nobody was like hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>put address on me like, it's like you gotta yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you do have to worry about that.

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<v Speaker 5>I read an NPR article about the same issue, and

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<v Speaker 5>this was I think more of like a I guess,

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<v Speaker 5>like an opinion piece, I dare say, But the author

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<v Speaker 5>sort of references the black men in the Dress to

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<v Speaker 5>a Carter G. Woodson book, The Miseducation of the Negro,

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<v Speaker 5>and in the book, Woodson argues that when someone is

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<v Speaker 5>repeatedly sent to the back door so often that they

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<v Speaker 5>eventually don't even know need to be told to go

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<v Speaker 5>to the front door or to the back door, that

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<v Speaker 5>they will just naturally go to the back door because

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<v Speaker 5>that is the place that they've been assigned. And he

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<v Speaker 5>goes on to say that they are become so conditioned

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<v Speaker 5>side of this that when it comes to literally the

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<v Speaker 5>back door, if you showed up to that same back

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<v Speaker 5>door and the back door did not exist, you would

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<v Speaker 5>try to cut a hole into the space where the

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<v Speaker 5>back door did exist, rather than walking through the front.

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<v Speaker 5>And he basically suggests that this is the type of

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<v Speaker 5>brainwashing that comes from the types of people who choose

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<v Speaker 5>the dress for themselves in comedy, that like an Eddie

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<v Speaker 5>Murphy who made a movie where he wanted to wear.

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<v Speaker 5>The dress is sort of conditioned as a sort of

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<v Speaker 5>like sub inside of the white hierarchy, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I understand the point that that's being made.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I necessarily agree with that, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of it. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this also boils down to how humor works and how

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>people work with the humor that like vulnerability or being

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the other, whatever is humorous. That's like the state of comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think there's a reason that it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>just a black Like I said before, a lot a

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, a lot of humor is based as

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>men dressing up like women and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 2>British people love that shit. They love that shiit, love it.

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.280
<v Speaker 2>They just think it silly look a bloke in a jumper.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how dunk. But the point is, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give a shit about you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But the but the point to me is that like

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<v Speaker 1>I understand what they're saying, but that we do need

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<v Speaker 1>to allow some space for the idea of this. Sh

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<v Speaker 1>It's just funny, man, you know, It's like it is

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<v Speaker 1>funny and it's funny to be vulnerable and I think

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 1>that that's where a lot of that comes from. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if this is if it was just black men, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have a bigger issue. But it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a tenet of humor, dressing up like something you're not

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<v Speaker 1>always it's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>And it also if if we could untoether this from

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<v Speaker 5>all of the homophobia and all of these sort of

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 5>like mal intentioned perspectives that are connected to this that

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<v Speaker 5>have nothing to do with you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>Like like at the root of it, address is not

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily emasculation. Address is address, and you can be masculine

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:27.239
<v Speaker 5>inside of address. But our own homophobia, in years of conditioning,

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 5>make us see it as a version of emasculation. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's what makes us complicated. It's not it's not the

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.799
<v Speaker 5>dress itself that makes us weaker. It is our own

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 5>sense of self that makes us weaker. And address just

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 5>is our articulation of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 7>Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm on the But does that you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Would you say that you're not at all?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Look, I'm a dog. He's as black as can be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? We all have the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we're good at on this podcast.

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 5>We all contribute here, and my mama told me so

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 5>it sounds like we've all sort of landed this plane.

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:28.720
<v Speaker 5>We don't think that it's necessarily a legit conspiracy theory.

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:29.400
<v Speaker 2>We're not.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not firm believers that this is some deep Hollywood

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 5>agenda to like transform the black man into an emasculated

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.560
<v Speaker 5>version of himself. That said, we ain't rushing to be

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 5>at the front of the line when it comes to

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 5>participating in the bit.

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 2>And to be fair, I think there's also space for

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 2>there to be times that it is that, you know,

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think there is fully possible.

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<v Speaker 5>I think both the both the weaponizing and the humor

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<v Speaker 5>of it being funny and also date dress.

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<v Speaker 6>On the other side, I think that when we're allowed

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<v Speaker 6>to write again, the three of us should all work

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.840
<v Speaker 6>on a remake, a reboot of BAPS.

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<v Speaker 7>I think we should.

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.919
<v Speaker 6>I think that I think it should start all three

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<v Speaker 6>of us, and we should bring it to Universal Pictures.

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 7>Let's let's get that off the ground. We're allowed to, so.

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<v Speaker 2>That also that white Baby thing, come on me, Kiky Palmer,

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:27.360
<v Speaker 2>White Baby one of those Disney Channel freaks.

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<v Speaker 5>Like Okay, see you changed the story a little bit

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 5>because it was you with a white family, but now

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:36.719
<v Speaker 5>it's you and.

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<v Speaker 2>Palmer raised a white baby. Yeah, still pretty good. I

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.879
<v Speaker 2>think I could go either way. This is good.

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 5>This is writers you were pitching.

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 7>And Timothy Shallow may just as Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then my caps is the grandpa also.

0:55:58.120 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 7>Right there.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, you're just teaching, teaching. Timothy Shallow made to

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 5>use a washcloth and he.

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Can't out smoking black and miles that make him smoke

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 2>the whole pack.

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 5>He gets real sick smoking a pack of cigarettes.

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 7>He's smoking wood wood tip blacks.

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>By then he looks like et when he was a

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 5>rage from home for too long. It's like, bro, we

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 5>gotta get him out of here. This ain't this ain't

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 5>a good house for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're gonna call CPS. This is childhood, Devin.

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 5>This was this is great. I think we did it

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 5>because you tell the people where they can find you

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 5>and and what cool ship you have going on.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm on tour right now, so just find me.

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 6>Find me online from my Instagram or Twitter or whatever

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 6>you can find on my tour info. I don't know

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 6>when this is gonna be out, but I'm touring for

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:56.439
<v Speaker 6>like the next month, so come see a show.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, and poor you want to tell the people

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<v Speaker 5>where they can find uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm well. First of all, you can catch us

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>on tour, because this comes out next week. You can

0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:07.360
<v Speaker 1>catch us. We still got two more weeks on tour.

0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>You can come out and catch us. That'll be in Texas,

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Houston and Austin, and then the weekend after that New

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 1>York and Pittsburgh and Chicago, in Chicago and Chicago, and

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>then I go on my own tour bring David aplate

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Just added a few dates Columbus, Cincinnati, some

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff, and that's my solo tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool guy jokes eighty seven on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, And as always, you can follow me at

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:36.479
<v Speaker 5>Langston Herman and come to that goddamn my mama told

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:40.000
<v Speaker 5>me live tour. We are very excited to see you

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 5>in person. And more importantly, if you want to send

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:46.240
<v Speaker 5>us drops, if you want to send us your own conspiracies,

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:48.919
<v Speaker 5>if you want to send us pictures of white men

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 5>in dresses who have benefited from from Hollywood's agenda, then

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 5>send it all to my mama pod at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>We would love to hear from you. That's about it.

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<v Speaker 5>By bit when they referred to.

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<v Speaker 4>The government bronames, my grown chips and your names, all

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Kuala bears are racist. The host of layer of host

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 4>and money, five ships and many Turkey stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell me noth