1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: CAFI AM six forty. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. We're on the air from one 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: till four after four o'clock the iHeart app as the 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: John and kenn On DEMD podcast. Same show. You can 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: listen to whatever you missed and matter where you go, 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: you hear Blake Trolley too. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Well. We will have another keyword to be revealed in 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. You can still win some cash. That's 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: still going on here on KFI through our show, into 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Tim Conway Junior Show and yes yesterday, at this time, 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Blake Trolley came on to talk about what some had 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: reported as a home invasion robbery attempt in the Hollywood Hills. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: We still haven't sorted that out completely, but the homeowner 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: did shoot the person trying to get into her home 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: certainly was concerned. Now we have a stabbing committed. It 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: took the life of a Check in the Box employee. 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Let's bring on Blake Trolley for more of this story. 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up Ken? Yeah, you know what? 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 4: Actually, the Jack in the Box employee survived the stabbing. 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 4: Those first media reports that came out that said he 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 4: was killed were actually false. He did ended up end 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: up surviving this stabbing what I called laped This morning, 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: they were really confused. I'd read the initial reports that 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: came out that you guys saw, that everybody saw, and 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: the PIO was like, you know, we don't have any 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: information on this, but I'm looking at the incident report 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 4: right now, and there's no crime scene set up. If 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: somebody was killed, there'd probably be a crime scene. So 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 4: behind the scenes here at KFI, we were actually trying 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: to figure out what to do with this story. Then 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 4: we called and we realized somebody had been stabbed. It's 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: just that they had survived, so that really lessens the burden. 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: Of the crimes. 35 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Do we know the condition of it. 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm told that he was released from the hospital. The 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: knife he was stabbed with, I'm told by witnesses on 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: scene was a small pocket knife, and so the unofficial account, 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: but this is the account that I was given by 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: an employee that works at the store, is that the 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: employee and another employee were out side having a smoke break. 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: They had that back door you see a lot at 43 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: fast food restaurants. A lot of us reluctantly look through 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: it and realize what we're getting into. 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: When you look into the kitchen, it was that. 46 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you got to just look straight when that 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: door's opened in the morning. 48 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: It was two thirty this morning. 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that door's prodded open while the two are 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: having a smoke, and the homeless guy apparently tries to 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 4: go into the door, and the employees try to stop him. 52 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 4: Some sort of altercation or fight breaks out. The homeless 53 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: guy stabs him. That's what the employee told me. Another 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: witness told me that the employee was stabbed about six 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: times in the back, but it was a small enough 56 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: blade that they got stitched up this morning at the 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: hospital and have since been. 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: At least good. This is definitely a homeless person. 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: Thought to be homeless person, but ken just by surveying 60 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: the area as I was driving up to Sodo to 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: get to this Jack in the Box, there's homeless camps 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: all over the area. There were homeless people, a lot 63 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: of homeless people in the parking lot today. I was asked, 64 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 4: you know, one of them approached me a couple times. 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: There was one woman, she looked a little deranged. She 66 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: approached me a couple of times. There were home there 67 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: were camps along to Soto, maybe a quarter half mile away. 68 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: In Los Angeles. It just never ends, does it? Every 69 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: single freaking day? And nobody does anything about it. 70 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: Well, I talked to this guy and he said that 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: at night, he doesn't even go out anymore at night, 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: because he said the area just gets so sketchy. 73 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: It turns into a whole nother world here at night. 74 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: It's just just seems like the devil comes out in 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: full blast. 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: So that was his account. I spoke to another woman 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: who said the same thing. She said, at night, this 78 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: area is starting to get really sketchy. He could come 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: out of their tents. Yeah, presumably like drug zombies. What 80 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: I was told was there's a lot of homeless people 81 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: roaming around the area at night. Some of them aren't sketchy, 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: some of them are. Some of them are looking for trouble. 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: I spoke to this woman who says her fiance left. 84 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: He was using her car. He left it running in 85 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: front of a liquor store last month and a homeless 86 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: guy jumped in and stole it. She just got the 87 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: car back, the back seats missing, some other parts are missing. 88 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: I asked her why. I thought maybe the. 89 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: Police removed them sheat is missing, and she said that's 90 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: because he sold the back seat and maybe some other 91 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: parts within the car. 92 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: And it sounds like she sold some other. 93 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: Stuff and he he pretty much took everything out of 94 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 5: my car that was in here, my ID, my phone, 95 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 5: my work stuff, and he just sold it. He was 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: just selling it. And when I got when I retrieved, 97 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 5: when the police gave me my car back, there was 98 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 5: about like ten to fifteen thousand dollars worth of stolen 99 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 5: merchandise from all over the neighborhood. Unfortunately, they could not 100 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: say where the merchandise came from, so they told me 101 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 5: pretty much just to keep everything, and I just dominated 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 5: it and you know, just gave it to wherever. 103 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: You know, in his defense, at least he left her 104 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: with something. He might have sold the seats, but you know, 105 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 4: she got something in exchange. 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: The guy sells the seat but leaves fifteen thousand dollars 107 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: of merchandise behind, and the cops give it to her 108 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: as like some sort of consolation price. 109 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 4: I'm sure it was a situation where it was just 110 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: too difficult to sort out. I got to I got 111 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: to reach out to the police department and see what 112 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: happened on that one is. 113 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: That standard practice now because there's just so much stolen 114 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: stuff they find. 115 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, look look what you want. You get 116 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: half a car back. 117 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: And it really does beg the question right exactly, like 118 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 4: what exactly happened with that? I guess I should have 119 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: probably dug into that one a little bit more, but. 120 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: Let's let's for comedy. 121 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 6: She said. 122 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: Well, she said that they're dealing with other issues in 123 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 4: the neighborhood because of you know, the homeless population. 124 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 5: They've been breaking into the apartment buildings and breaking into 125 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: our washing machines. A lot of the management doesn't want 126 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: to deal with it because it's a constant thing. They're 127 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 5: breaking into the laundry rooms to take the change out 128 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 5: of the machines, not really realizing that we use apps 129 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: in cards nowadays. So they're just putting us through a 130 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: lot more turmoil than what we should really be going to. 131 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: I just want to go to one last bite from her. 132 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: You know, she really shared a lot. And by the way, 133 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 4: I did speak to other people who said similar things, right, 134 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: they said they had some sketchy runnings things like that. 135 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 4: But one of the things that she said is people 136 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: are you know, they're not really report a lot of 137 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: this anymore because nothing's happening. 138 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: The name bombs, unfortunt, the same less fortunate people that 139 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: you see being arrested or whatever. They're out with my 140 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: bomb twelve thirteen hours. Once they detox or once they 141 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 5: come down from they're high, they get out, they get 142 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 5: another high, and they do it all over again, and 143 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: the police they're like, you know what she's saying. 144 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: The police are basically saying, you know, their hands are typed. 145 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And then and then gas going to tell 146 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: you that the crime rate is down. These people commit 147 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: multiple crimes all day and night, and none of them 148 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: are recorded or reported. And then we're told, no, no, 149 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: actually the streets are safer than ever. 150 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: Lying sack back to the Jack in the Box. 151 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this one, well, you know what happens, ken 152 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 4: is lies and then we figure out other things are happening. 153 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Sorry, no, I just I mean it's two am. Was 154 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: it just like the drive through was open? Because they're 155 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: in there right there, they're working. I mean, what's going 156 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: on at two am at the Jack in the Box 157 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: and Winetka? 158 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe the drive through was open, the dining 159 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: room was closed, and the door that he tried to 160 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: go through. Was that back door that would get you 161 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: into the into the kitchen. Oh so they were just 162 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: outside smoking, right. 163 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: He just had to have his jumbo jack or something, 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: or he just wanted to stab somebody. 165 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: That's the moon he was it, all right, Blake, thank 166 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: you very much for that report. 167 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: All right, thanks guys. 168 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Try to play trolly CAFI News covering when vagrants attack, 169 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: and as I mentioned the El Segundo Times, they posted 170 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: this at ten forty eight. 171 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Grace twey. It looks like they haven't caught the stabber yet, right, 172 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: did we cover that? They haven't. They're looking for the assailant, 173 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: who is supposed to be a black male transient. They 174 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: did they catch him yet? 175 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: All right, I'm coming back, Ken, Sorry that was a 176 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: well I'll figure again. Yeah, no, they have not caught 177 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: him yet. The last they saw he took off on 178 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 4: De Soto. He's been described as a black eye, about 179 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: thirty five years old. He was wearing dark clothing. He 180 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: had like a big backpack on, like a camel or 181 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: camping backpack, and he took off down to Sodo towards 182 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: the park. 183 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Okay, there we go, all right, So they do say that. 184 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: But the Elsagundo Times reporter and this is the woman 185 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: that's at the the. 186 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Fast break desk, Grace fast break desk. Yeah, it's like 187 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: fast breaking news. She's probably busier during Laker season. Just 188 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: says the suspect's unidentified. Is that true? 189 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 1: Tried to get into the location and argument. 190 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Grace twey. I guess she instructed by management 191 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: that it's not a vagrant. I'll look for an update 192 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: on the story and see if here we are three 193 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: hours later, if they did update it to say they're 194 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: looking for a transient, they was got at a transient. Yes, 195 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: they have euphemisms on top of euphemisms, don't they. 196 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Yes, I guess that's a more polite way. It just 197 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: sounds like somebody is in between you know, locations, jobs. 198 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: You when you stab transit, When you stab somebody six times, 199 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: that's an attempted murderer. That's how he's described. All right, 200 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: when we return, this is hard to believe. Metro Metro, 201 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: La County Metro. You know, the buses, the subways, things 202 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: like that. They're building a homeless hub. Get out of here. 203 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: We should not be in this business. 204 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: And if we are that's the Department of Homelessness Services 205 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: or whatever, the Department of Homeless Hubs. 206 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: Homeless hubs, they call them navigation centers. They're insane. So 207 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: if Theakan can win there and navigate their way into 208 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: a better life, we'll get onto it. 209 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: Coming up next, Johnny KENKFI AM six forty Live everywhere. 210 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio apps. 211 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 212 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 213 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: You see, there was horrible violence right down the street. 214 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Did you see this story. They're looking for three they're 215 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: looking for a gun to who killed three people into 216 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: Luca Lake right near the station. Yeah, Lancersham, right, Yeah, 217 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Park and Lancersham. 218 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: That's sometimes drive by there. 219 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I saw this in my I saw 220 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: it on the news and I said, wait a minute, 221 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: I think I recognize a couple of those restaurants in 222 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the background. Yikes. Yeah, any details what nine to thirty 223 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: pm last night? Apparently it was like a drive by shooting. 224 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: Three or four men inside a silver car open fire 225 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: on four men. One of the victims died at the scene. 226 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: Three others transported themselves to a hospital, but two of 227 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: them died of their wounds there. The fourth is recovering. 228 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: They cordoned off the street Ernie Mexican restaurant. You've ever 229 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: seen that at the forty four hundred block of Langerson. 230 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: But anyway, well, you know, it's it's it's getting near 231 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: North Hollywood and there's a lot of I know, and 232 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: they say they don't know whether or not it's gang related. 233 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: But usually drive bys is that kind of thing? 234 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 235 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Almost always, yeah, because who drives around like three other 236 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: guys in the car randomly shooting at other cars? Another 237 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: car filled with a bunch of guys. I mean, this 238 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: isn't the bowling League. 239 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: All right. So we were just talking to Blake Trolley. 240 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: About a transient vagrant who apparently stabbed a jacket a 241 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: box employee in one netc. LA Metro has got this 242 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: idea that they're going to build a homeless navigation hub. 243 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: Oh, it'll be like a welcome center. This will be 244 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: right next to adjacent to Union Station in downtown LA 245 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: where apparently Union Station and the entire Metro system as 246 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: the largest collection of vagrants of any other place. So 247 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: now they're going to accommodate the vagrants by building a 248 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: navigation hub to connect them to services. Because normal people 249 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: don't use the metro station. Why would you? 250 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not. I mean, nobody's getting on a bus 251 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: or a train if they can help it. Because well, 252 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: but apparently that station that you got metro link there Amtrak. 253 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: I think there are people that use it because it's 254 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: like a connecting point to get to other transit modes. 255 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: You know what, There's no chance I would ever ever 256 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: take mass transit Los Angeles. I mean, I'd steal a car. 257 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: Since now car theft is legal, Just go steal one. 258 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: No one's gonna boby you. Now, it's not going to 259 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: house the homeless. It will not serve as a shelter. Well, 260 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: there'll be no beds or dwellings. It will whoever it's 261 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: supposed to connect people that get to. 262 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: The end of the line there at Union Station on 263 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: a bus or train to some sort of services. Those 264 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: people hit the end of the line a long time ago. 265 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: Administrative case management and housing navigation management. 266 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: It sounds like, are you going to hire more people? 267 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: Aren't you sick of the bureaucratic gibberish it is? It 268 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: is just to hire more useless government workers, useless bureaucrats 269 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: who do nothing to ease the problem that normal people 270 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: are suffering through. 271 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: All Right, you got you got one woman who's had 272 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: to shoot a guy in Hollywood Hills. 273 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: Next day there's a guy getting stabbed at the Winetka 274 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: Jack in the Box. 275 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: No help for these people. 276 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: But we have all kinds of bureaucrats available to spend 277 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: taxpayer money on your miserable, wretched life while you sit 278 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: there snorting and injecting drugs all day. 279 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Feed us buzz. 280 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: Lines like navigation navigations. They're going to figure out their life. 281 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: It's like their mapped all the future. You're just gonna 282 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: enable them so they can take drugs until they die. Meanwhile, 283 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: the column ended up dying really young. 284 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: The columnist for the El Segundo Times, basically he's pretty 285 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: old now, so he writes a lot about senior citizens. 286 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: That's that Steve Lopez. No, that's his whole beat now, 287 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: is yeah, because now he's talking about a seventy year 288 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: old guy. He's living out of his car. David Mays 289 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: has been living in his Chevy Malibu for two years, 290 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: and he can't help but dream about the day when 291 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: he gets off the waiting list for housing. He's in 292 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: one of these garages safe parking LA. These stories are 293 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: supposed to make you. 294 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: Go ah, Now, all I do is go, oh, get 295 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: responsible for yourself. 296 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: What did you do the first seventies? Not that old? 297 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: What did you do the first seventy years? Let's see, 298 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: this guy was of working age. Well, you could start 299 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: getting a job when he's when you're sixteen, right, that 300 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: would have been fifty four years ago. That would ever 301 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: have been around nineteen seventy, So starting in nineteen seventy, 302 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: this guy could work. 303 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: The eighties. 304 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: The nineties seemed to have gotten laid off or something. 305 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: And another one living in his car. Well, used to 306 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: be a chef, but I guess he lost his job, 307 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: and then that's it dead end. 308 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: See it doesn't have to be a dead end. I 309 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: don't understand. 310 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: There's nine million jobs available in this country, and I 311 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: was st. 312 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: This guy, David Mays. Wait a minute, David Mays has 313 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: been Oh I see the evening I met him. Oh 314 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: he was parked near a seventy two year old unemployed chef. Okay, 315 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: So the story is, I'm finding the people in the 316 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: safe parking place. A lot of them seem to be 317 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: older people, right, living in their cars. Right? 318 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what did they do all their lives? Did 319 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: they put any money away? Did they invest any money? Well, 320 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: they made this rational decisions. 321 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: He meets Eduardo seventy three in his longtime partner, Arena 322 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: sixty nine. They're living in their Chevy Cruise. Well, he 323 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: works as a messenger. She's a seamstress. 324 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, messenger work pays a lot when you're seventy three. 325 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: The pandemic limited her hours and then her factory close, 326 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: So that was it for her seamstress work. Right, because 327 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: they couldn't handle the rent in their backyard unit in Lindwood, 328 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: so they moved into their Honda Cord that conked out, 329 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: So they bought this Chevy Cruise. 330 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: Here's here's a here's a better, more honest paragraph. Some 331 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: of the clients have complicated histories. Complicated history. Yeah, that 332 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: is is a disguised life. I have a complicated history. 333 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: It means I'm a complete f up. 334 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: I have it. 335 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: I constantly do the wrong thing. Legal problems, Oh, legal problems? 336 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: Oh would that be committing crimes? Addiction issues, physical and 337 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: mental health challenges, family estrangement. In other words, your family 338 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: three out because you were such a mess. Poverty and trauma. Uh, 339 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: others are simply the victims of the cruel math of 340 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: survival in LA wages don't keep pace with the cost 341 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: of living and housing. Then move go to Barstow, Go 342 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: to need Barstow, needle needle death Valley. Go to death Valley. Seriously, 343 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: who the heuse stays in a place you can't afford? 344 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Go to Pump and they're 345 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: living it perumpt Nevada. 346 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: Yes, go to Parump, take your bump, Take your rump 347 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: to Perump. 348 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Why is this so difficult? 349 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: Yes, to start up your car and say, let's move 350 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: where you know we can get a much cheaper existence. 351 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand that either, But you got it a 352 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: complicated life. 353 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: And I thought of this. 354 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: I said, everybody has a relative like this, and the 355 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: family tends to give up on them because they're always 356 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: between jobs, need money. Sure, they're in some complicated transition. 357 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: They want to move in with you. And that's who 358 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: this crowd is that's living in their cars. They just 359 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: have this uh yeah, hapless situation where they just can't 360 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: they can't navigate because yes, because you're a disruptive pain 361 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: in the ass and nobody wants to hear from you anymore. 362 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Life is too short to deal with all your problems. 363 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Seventy years old, every money, What do I do? What 364 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: did you do? 365 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: What was your life of But Steve Lopez and the 366 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: rest of these la times nitties, they never asked these people, 367 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: Oh I suffered trauma? When did you suffer trauma? People 368 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: used to get over trauma. All right, we got more 369 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: coming up. Johnny KENKFI AM six forty. We live everywhere. 370 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: But you're supposed to heal eventually. You're supposed to move 371 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: on to. 372 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: The simple phrases, figure it out, figure it out, and 373 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: move on. Jesus. 374 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: I mean the whole World War two generation in America. 375 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: They had eleven years of eleven years of depression, five 376 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: years of war. They came out the other side and 377 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: built like the It was the biggest boom time in 378 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: America's history. That was after seventeen years of trauma. 379 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 6: All right, you're listening to John and Ken on demand 380 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 6: from KFI AM six forty. 381 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: We're on the radio one until four after four o'clock. 382 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: John and Can on demand. That is the podcast. It 383 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: is the same as the radio show. And if you 384 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: missed anything, you can hear it. Then after four. 385 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: And we love to hear from you. Use the app 386 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: to the iHeartRadio app to connect to the moistline using 387 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: the microphone icon or called the Tophrey number one eight 388 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven sixty 389 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: six four seven eight eighty six. The following happens from 390 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: time to time, and all I can say is, all right, 391 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: we go to North Kerrn State Prison where apparently a 392 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: serial killer killed the child rapist. Wow. They were sharing 393 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: a cell together temporarily, it says, until they were trans 394 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: transferred to more permanent accommodations. And the serial killer's name 395 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: might be familiar to some listeners because it was a 396 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: big story just a few years ago. Ramon Alberto Escobar. 397 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: This is the guy who, apparently well was born in 398 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: El Salvador. I don't know whether or not he was 399 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: a llegal or illegal immigrant, but he was in Texas 400 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: and he killed his aunt and uncle, and eventually he 401 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: made his way to California and he killed homeless people here. Remember, yes, yeah, yeah. 402 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: Back in twenty eighteen, in the early morning hours, he 403 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: attacked another homeless man who was sleeping on a beach 404 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. Repeatedly beat him with a baseball bat. 405 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: Why actually went to prison for all that? Oh that? 406 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: That guy survived the assault, but two days later he 407 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: attacked another homeless man who also suffered a big head injury. 408 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: That guy fell into a coman eventually died. Then he 409 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: attacked three sleeping homeless men in downtown Los Angeles, again 410 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: with the baseball bat, robbing them. Afterwards, two of them 411 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: died while a third victim survived. So this is why 412 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: he's a serial killery started with his aunt and uncle, 413 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: who will apparently he lived with because basically he didn't 414 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: have a job, and then he killed both of them. 415 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: And then he left Texas and he came there and 416 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: he started killing homeless people. So they eventually caught up 417 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: with him, and I like this part. 418 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: It says here that due to several delays caused by 419 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic, the trial was delayed into early 420 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and then he was offered a plea 421 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: bargain from I guess the La County da Gasconne. They 422 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: dropped the death penalty if he pled guilty at all charges, 423 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: and they gave him several life terms without parole. And 424 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: we know what that could mean I just mentioned all 425 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: these murders. Doesn't Gasconne believe that fifteen years is enough 426 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: for anybody to serve for any crime. 427 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: You could serve all You could serve each sentence at 428 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: the same time. Concurrently, Yes, So it's fifteen years total 429 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: for the whole package of murders. 430 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: So he's put in this cell in this prison, and 431 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: he's got a cell mate by the name of one 432 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: Via Nueva, no relation to Formerweva. And I guess one 433 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: didn't wash himself. Well, yeah, one was sentenced to life 434 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: in prison last year. Was sexually assaulting a child under fourteen. 435 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. He arrived in February, just days before 436 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: he was killed by his serial killer roommate, Ramon Escobar 437 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: and John's right. Ramone said he was a slab. He 438 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: confessed to the killing, said it was all over in 439 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: five minutes. 440 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 2: It was a hygiene problem, Yeah, a hygiene problem, bad hygiene. 441 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: So he strangled vie A Weeva. He also said that 442 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: vienn Aweva didn't show him any respect. I guess Escobar 443 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: told the story about being a serial killer and the 444 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: guy went. 445 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: Ah, how bad do you have to smell to get 446 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: somebody to strangle your Wow. That's but I guess if 447 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: you've just moved in with a serial killer, it wouldn't 448 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: take much, right, Yeah, And another crime story that makes 449 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: her head shake, it's like, Uh, there was apparently a 450 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: guy who was involved in the Hell's Angels in Sonoma County, 451 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Merle Merle Merle Hefferman. 452 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: And apparently when Merle. 453 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: Efferman doesn't sound like a Hell's Angel, it does not 454 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: the cerel that comedian name, like like Milton Burle or 455 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: something like that. Merle Hefferman, well, uh, he apparently wanted 456 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: to kill a rival biker gang member by the name 457 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: of Joel Silva, so he made a deal with a 458 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: Fresno funeral home to incinerate the body of Joel silver 459 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: after he killed him. 460 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Hefferman was a member of the Hell's Angel of Sonoma County. 461 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Silva's was one of four bodies that Hefferman directed to 462 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: be illegally cremated at the funeral home, which was known 463 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: to the Hell's Angels as quote the Pizza Oven. 464 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 7: Nice This was a plot line and Sons of Anarchy 465 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 7: the TV show and I fl Yeah, so in the 466 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 7: fictional town that Sons of anarchy is based in the 467 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 7: guy who ran the funeral home in that town was 468 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 7: on the take from the club, and. 469 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: They would cremate their victims. 470 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 7: He would create their victims, and then they needed to 471 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 7: stage a crime scene, and they got bodies from him 472 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 7: and used bodies that were in his morgue. 473 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: Funeral homes half crematoriums. I thought that was like a 474 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: separate location. I guess they can do both, some of 475 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: them do. I don't think they all do what. I'm 476 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: probably the glitorium services. They got a smoke stack on 477 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: the roof, or unless the well, unless the funeral home 478 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: had a connection with the crematorium and just sent the 479 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: bottom puffs of smoke. 480 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: It's like here it goes another one. Yeah, well, this 481 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: just came out of the indictment against this guy, that 482 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: this was their way of a pizza and of getting 483 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: rid of They got sended. So there's nobody, right, nobody, 484 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: no body. Sometimes they can't really Yeah, oh this is 485 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: all good news though. Well yeah, I mean, you know, 486 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: you're assuming all Hell's Angels guys are nasty criminals. 487 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, No, I didn't say that. I would never 488 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: say any such thing. Do you think that, No, no, no, no, 489 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: But you're saying it's all good news. So I wondered 490 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: what that meant. Who knows what it meant? Your time 491 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: to backp. I actually was talking about the guy with 492 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: bad hygiene. 493 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh, the serial show that killed the child. Great, but 494 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: that's definitely good news. Right, yeah, all right, we'll be back. 495 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken k if I AM six forty live everywhere 496 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app. 497 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 498 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 499 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: Well, apparently Gavin Newsoen did sign the bill that is 500 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: going to start the speed cameras in the state of 501 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: California and several cities. It has been approved by the governor. 502 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it with Jay Bieber from 503 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: the National Motorists Association after the news at three o'clock. 504 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: He was key in bringing us up to date on 505 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: red light cameras years ago, and those that pretty much 506 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: disappeared from well, there's a lot less of them than 507 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: they were as judges began to throw out the tickets. 508 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Now we'll see what we can do with the speed camera. 509 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: This is about stealing money. This is nonsense to people 510 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: who go speeding and running people over late at night 511 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: when most of the may happens. Do not care about 512 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: the speeding cameras. They're not going to pay the tickets anyway, 513 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be forced to. So this 514 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: is just another ruse from these there's some of these 515 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: irritating nags in the Assembly and state Senate. Well, and 516 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't the proof be we had the red 517 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: light cameras for a couple of years and they're gone. 518 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, now is everybody dying again at the intersections 519 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: because he took away the red light camera? I mean right, 520 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: because people are making dangerous rights on red. 521 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: I do not see the connection between speeding cameras and 522 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: people being hit. I mean, I mean, I mean even 523 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: even the example that they used in one of these 524 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: stories here, the people who speed, that's that's only one 525 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: little fragment of their problems on the road. 526 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: They drive, except I mean, everybody. 527 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: Speeds, but you're talking about going like seventy and a 528 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: thirty five solmes or something. But start saying that a 529 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: camera doesn't stop a guy like that. A guy like 530 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: that is going to be reckless and crazy. They're usually drunk, 531 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: they're usually on drugs, or they have anger issues. They're 532 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: very reckless and irresponsible. They're not going to camera's not 533 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: going to stop them, and they're the ones who cause 534 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: the deaths. So instead they're going to come after the 535 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: rest of us who are driving slightly over the speed 536 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: limit because the speed limits are too low for the 537 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: for the roads in the narrowoods. I remember they also 538 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: got that thing where they were going to lower the 539 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: speed limits because they thought, oh, they're not it was 540 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: not a proper study at the speed Link. It's the 541 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: nanny Stag. Yes, they have bogus studies all the time, 542 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: and it's all about the war on the car. Yes, 543 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: don't come at you from ten different directions. That's what 544 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: it is about getting us out of our car. 545 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: High gas prices, do everything they can to get you 546 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: out of your car. 547 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: I'll do a tickets so uncomfortable and so costly, they 548 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: takeaway parking. 549 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: We've covered this from like ten different ankles. All right, 550 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Jay after that three o'clock. Speaking 551 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: of cars, though I had to read this story twice 552 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: to believe it. Three members of a California family pled 553 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: guilty to conspiracy for their role in a ring that 554 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: shipped six hundred million dollars worth of stolen catalytic converters 555 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: from California to New Jersey. And we've talked about these 556 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: kind of stories before. Apparently New Jersey is known to 557 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: have these big I guess us places where they take 558 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: the catalytic converters and then they get the important metals 559 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: out of them. Yeah. I saw a television story on 560 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: that Jersey is. 561 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Jersey is like the capital of jeran converter catalytic 562 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: converter processing. 563 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. You send in a mail order 564 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: brothers two Sioux Vang thirty two, Andrew Vang twenty eight, 565 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: and get this and their mother, Monica Moua fifty eight. 566 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: We're part of a nationwide network of thieves, dealers and 567 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: processors who provided these stolen anti smog devices to it's 568 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: a metal refinery for more than six hundred million. Now 569 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: this family alone didn't get six and there didn't send 570 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: six hundred million. Was part of the ring. 571 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: Now, first I thought they alone sent six hundred million 572 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: dollars worth of catalytic converts. It's made in with precious 573 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: metals like platinum, so they have a process to melt 574 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: down and extract these metals and then resell it. 575 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and some of these precious metals are more valuable 576 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: than pronounced than gold, and their values going up, says 577 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: the US Attorney's Office. The black market price for catalytic 578 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: converters can be above one thousand dollars each. So that's 579 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: why you might see them on the street in the 580 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: middle of the night with their power tools and off 581 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: somebody's catalytic converter. 582 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: Somebody gets castrated, and what do you know, Hey, that 583 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 2: car has been castrated. That's not my catalytic converter. 584 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: Sir. 585 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: California accounts for thirty seven percent of all the catalytic converters. 586 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: Were like a third of everything, the third of the homeless, 587 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: and the third of the welfare cases, the third of 588 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: the catalyt converter, and well what twelve percent of the population. 589 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: Percent of the population, thirty seven percent of the catalytic converters. 590 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: Because we have no laws, that's right. 591 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Because criminals can run around and do what they want 592 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: every day. Nothing happens to them if they get caught. 593 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: There are no primes. 594 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: And and I told you I saw this happen. It 595 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: doesn't take long. It says here, they're easily stolen those 596 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: guys went to work with a power tool park car 597 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: outside my home, and by the time I heard it, 598 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: they were almost done. 599 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: It's probably one of the brothers. They might have been 600 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: too soon, I mean, I mean, it might have been 601 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: too Sue. 602 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: Although I think these guys are from northern California, but maybe. 603 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: And I wonder if you probably would make more money 604 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: at cataily converted than you could like smashing into someone's 605 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: car and taking your chances grabbing stuffed it in the well. 606 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: And that woman that Blake trolley talked to. We talked 607 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: to Blake earlier this hour. She had a lot of 608 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: stuff in her car that sounded valuable, didn't she Why 609 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: would you do that? Right? 610 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: Well, they returned her car with all these stolen goods. 611 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: I think she had stuff in her car that was stolen. 612 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: She had stuff in her car was stolen, and then 613 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: she got ten to fifteen thousand dollars worth of other 614 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: stolen goods that the thieves left behind. 615 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, the BANG people are from Sacramento. Yeah, 616 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: well they you know, they pled guilty to conspiring to 617 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: transport the cattle conversion and return for more than thirty 618 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: eight million dollars they got. 619 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: Wow, that should help them with the bail with that's 620 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: a very rich Well, that's the thing. They've made a 621 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: lot of money and I'm sure they put it away somewhere. 622 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: So what are they just going to serve their time? 623 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: And no, they probably have to make it. 624 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, this is this is a federal prosecution, that is right, 625 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: So they'll probably uh, they'll probably spend some good prison time. 626 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: I hope so. But what they do with that money 627 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: is a good question. Did they just buy stuff with it? 628 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: And can that be taken from it? What Switzerland is for? 629 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 7: All? 630 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: Right? When we return, Jay Bieber will be with us. 631 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: He's the executive director of policy for the National Motorists Association. 632 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: How do we beat what we definitely have? Uh? For sure? 633 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Now it is speed cameras out there on your roadways. 634 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken caf I AM six forty Live Everywhere iHeartRadio 635 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: app and Deborah marcusof for Got Sandy Wells Live in 636 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom. 637 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 638 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: You can always hear us live on CAFI AM six 639 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday. 640 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: And of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.