WEBVTT - Players Lounge: Power Hour

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison and

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<v Speaker 1>New He scrugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Players up my day, Let's ride.

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<v Speaker 3>Why you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>How you do Why you do your nick like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me put your on, he said Barry turch I said,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, man, y'all wrong, boy, y'all do that, y'all

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<v Speaker 4>do a play wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>But let me tell you something. Man. Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I went back and listened to a few episodes when

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<v Speaker 4>I was off the show. Y'all didn't give me no break,

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we couldn't divulge where you were. That is true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it couldn't, y'all. Y'all lean more to it then.

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<v Speaker 6>I think because we could. I thought I gave the

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<v Speaker 6>proper proper. I thought it was proper when I said

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<v Speaker 6>Danny's on assignment, Yeah the first Okay, That's why I tried,

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<v Speaker 6>because that way I didn't give away anything. And people

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<v Speaker 6>think he was what he want assignment. So so that's

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<v Speaker 6>what I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the third time, y'all was on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know why? You know where he is?

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<v Speaker 6>Heck Ma Harrison anywhere, crab knew he Scruggs, Barry Church,

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<v Speaker 6>day off church Church's gott got a couple of sick

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<v Speaker 6>little ones. So you know you got you got to

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<v Speaker 6>take care of your kids. That's priority. Some boom do

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<v Speaker 6>what you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do there, brood excuse Yeah, that's a good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's always a good reason.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's the reason he ain't here. Now we missed

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<v Speaker 3>your church.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I don't want him on zoom. No, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>get him on zoom. He just show out when he

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<v Speaker 4>on zoom, he sit behind the wine gallon.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Come on, now, he got

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<v Speaker 3>the whole four year behind the.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole I have money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, I did get the bag.

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<v Speaker 4>You could have picked anywhere in the house except oh

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<v Speaker 4>you got the wine cellar by Okay, I got you,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember the time I did his zoom with lt

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<v Speaker 6>and uh Tomlinson did it in his uh in this

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<v Speaker 6>theater room. Yeah, I'm like, wow, I'm like, why why

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<v Speaker 6>am I going out to the Look Theater.

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<v Speaker 3>I just need to go to your house. I may

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<v Speaker 3>got legit fit. It was nice.

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<v Speaker 6>I might as well had the Academy wards and then

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<v Speaker 6>Chris Rock and the Tucks and go live from LT's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Some money, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, no, he took care

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<v Speaker 2>of it very well.

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<v Speaker 6>ESPN Football Power indexes out and the Cowboys and of eight,

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<v Speaker 6>the Jets are six.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw the whole list away.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys played the Jets with Week two.

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<v Speaker 4>List the way because the Jets are but the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 4>of course.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just trying to understand all this hype behind the Jets,

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<v Speaker 6>which which is, yeah, good for the Cowboys because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll let every people how to shine. But I just

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<v Speaker 6>I just like, why are people buying into this Jets thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway? Your number one team on the.

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<v Speaker 6>Power in nexolence Kansas City, as it should, No problem

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<v Speaker 6>is that number two is Buffalo, Number three phil Alphia, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Problem, good man. I don't know, man, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know how last season ended and all that, But man,

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<v Speaker 4>I just the Cincinnati Bengals to me, I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>better than the Buffalo Bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they are on the list.

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<v Speaker 4>They on the list. But I'm saying, well, we listed

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<v Speaker 4>the top three. I just think you said they should

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<v Speaker 4>be at number two instead of below.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think Buffalo should be at number two. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Phillis should be at number two, and then probably

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<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati at three, and then Buffalo below. Now, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>we watched, Listen, we watched the Super Bowl game. It

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<v Speaker 4>was just close one team and Philly wing got better

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<v Speaker 4>on paper. So I don't understand how Buffalo is then

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<v Speaker 4>ahead of them. I think Josh Allen and I just

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<v Speaker 4>the Josh Allen argument is always intriguing, you know. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the pictures of us, I'm telling you who he is,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think people make a lot of him and

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<v Speaker 4>his ability, and any team that has gone to it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been because of the playoffs. It's been because of

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<v Speaker 4>their quarterback, you know what you need. And so Buffalo

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<v Speaker 4>is always going to be in contention because of Josh

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<v Speaker 4>Allen and also you know, Stephon Man. They got some

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<v Speaker 4>really good players and they got a damn good defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Also to go with that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna go with what you're saying. I'm taking a

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<v Speaker 6>bit further because this is true. Because I've talked to

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<v Speaker 6>too many people, my friends who worked there. There is

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<v Speaker 6>an East Coast bias when it comes to these ESPN

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<v Speaker 6>type things. To an East Coast biason, it's also becomes

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<v Speaker 6>a bias of who they like. Be it, Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna talk about the I Woars and plump them up high.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll talk about the Lakers. They do that there to

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<v Speaker 6>disrespect a man who's actually been to a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 6>versus another guy who's a good football player. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 6>think Josh Allen is a When you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 6>top five card, I will put him there along with

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Burrow. But Joe Burrow went and did that thing

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<v Speaker 6>you talk about not a whole lot of help.

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<v Speaker 2>That offensive line was terrible.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, if they have some help up front, they

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<v Speaker 6>might they might have pulled the whole thing off. So

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<v Speaker 6>I do see your point when you talk about the disrespect,

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<v Speaker 6>And I do think that's because because when you're a

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<v Speaker 6>Midwest team and I don't. I do think you get

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<v Speaker 6>ignored by an ESPN and that kind of things.

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<v Speaker 4>They So you're saying Cincinnati should be number two or

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<v Speaker 4>Philly should be number two, were you I would.

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<v Speaker 6>Say this, I would put the Bengals ahead of Buffalo

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<v Speaker 6>Power Index. I agree with him on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, you made a comment last last show that

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<v Speaker 4>we have that there's always a team that's gonna come

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<v Speaker 4>from the bottom of the bear and work their way up,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think we saw that from Philly even though

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<v Speaker 4>they were a playoff team. They crawled in to the

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<v Speaker 4>seventh seed in the playoff, and they were that team

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<v Speaker 4>last year. To me, that came from the basement all

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<v Speaker 4>the way to the top to play in a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's the time consistency improved thing.

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<v Speaker 6>For me when I brought that. We're about last play.

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<v Speaker 6>So every year there is a last play, a team

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<v Speaker 6>who was finished last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Before, who wins their divisi Jacksonville Bingo.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well Philly for me, I mean I wasn't surprised

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<v Speaker 6>I picked them to win the division. A lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people thought Philly was ripe and ready to win that division.

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<v Speaker 4>So after the acquisition of AJ Brown and all the

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<v Speaker 4>things that they did in the off season, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>would have been a fool not to think that. But let'sten,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about a team that maybe they didn't put

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<v Speaker 4>them at number two because they're waiting on them to

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<v Speaker 4>show that time consistency and proved to put them at

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<v Speaker 4>number two. Look last year season, I'm not wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>call that a joke, all right, but do it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it again, and I would put the Bengals there.

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<v Speaker 4>I would put the Bengals then for because their consistency

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<v Speaker 4>has shown that they backed to back two years in

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<v Speaker 4>the row, a couple of players away from being being

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<v Speaker 4>back where they were back in the Super Bowl. They

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<v Speaker 4>have played the Cincinnati Cincinnati Okay, ye'll talking about the Banks,

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<v Speaker 4>not a Cincinnati has showed that consistency over the last

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<v Speaker 4>two years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's who. That's why. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>When you look at consistency from Philly, they made the

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<v Speaker 4>playoffs the year before. Next year they come back, they

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<v Speaker 4>get better, they go to Super Bowl. I mean this

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<v Speaker 4>is two years back to back playoff team, the following

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<v Speaker 4>year they go to Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>They're starting to show some consistenty. It's somebody unique.

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<v Speaker 4>How you don't get a Cowboys that same see said

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<v Speaker 4>the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, went to the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I got all right, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Truth.

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<v Speaker 4>If the Cowboys go to the super Bowl consistent, that's

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<v Speaker 4>three back to back playoffs seasons and Super Bowl right

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<v Speaker 4>heck trying to hop on because I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>What'd you say.

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<v Speaker 2>Your truth over? I don't want to hear that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Cincinnati should be above Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, I had one more thing I want to

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<v Speaker 6>throw about the Bengals. They should be trying to get

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<v Speaker 6>a contract done with Ezekiel Elliott because Joe Mixon has

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<v Speaker 6>shown a propensity to be injured seventeen game season. Give

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<v Speaker 6>me mixing Elliott. I think you can do something right there.

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<v Speaker 6>I am one of the I told some anything Zeus

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<v Speaker 6>wat Cat would be like, oh, Zeke's I said he's

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<v Speaker 6>not done. He's not done at all. I said, you

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<v Speaker 6>put him in the proper time share. I think he

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<v Speaker 6>can really excel if he went to a team and

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<v Speaker 6>became the lead back. When you start to think about opportunities,

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<v Speaker 6>I think the guy could get you a thousand yards.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think when people leave here, especially stars on

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<v Speaker 6>big contracts, it's almost as though we run them down.

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<v Speaker 6>Extra Terrence Newman left here, Man, people talked it was

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<v Speaker 6>just trash talk. That guy dude was playing. He ripped

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<v Speaker 6>muscle from the zap Donald. I mean it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I talked to team and I said, Timmy, why aren't

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<v Speaker 6>you telling people what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want anybody. I think it's an excuse.

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<v Speaker 6>And he's like my teammatesnow's going I said, but the

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<v Speaker 6>problem is we in the public, especially me, we don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>so people just thinking you, mister toasty torch, can't guard

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<v Speaker 6>anybody anymore. Guy went on to Cincinnati and Minnesota and

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<v Speaker 6>played till he was forty plus years old. But when

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<v Speaker 6>he left there was that remnant of good riddance DeMarcus,

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<v Speaker 6>where yeah, man, he not worth the production dot all.

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<v Speaker 6>That old miss guy goes up to goes up to Denver,

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<v Speaker 6>balls out, balls out, mentors von Miller, who becomes Super

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<v Speaker 6>Bowl MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's getting ready to go get a gold jacket

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<v Speaker 2>this August.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel that Ezekiel Elliott Elliott is getting some of

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<v Speaker 6>that same thing where people are just adding extra salt

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<v Speaker 6>onto this thing, and I think they're gonna be mistaken

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<v Speaker 6>if he goes to the right opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 6>These are two organizations, in my opinion, who should put

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<v Speaker 6>out a contract this of a you know, a bear contract.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe asking the sentence in there, but I think Ezekiel.

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<v Speaker 6>It can help them and more importantly help the quarterback

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Burrow, justin Herbert two headed monster.

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<v Speaker 3>So Zeke going to fool with Kelling Moore.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what if you're Kellen Moore and you're putting

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<v Speaker 6>in your offense a guy that you know, and oh,

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<v Speaker 6>by the way, what can he what can we what

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<v Speaker 6>do we know this man can do?

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<v Speaker 2>He can pass? And if I'm about to give a

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<v Speaker 2>big old fat contract.

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<v Speaker 6>To Herbert Burrow, which both of these organizations are doing,

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<v Speaker 6>I like to have somebody I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know who can go ahead and take care of that job.

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<v Speaker 6>Austin Eckler with the Chargers right now, you're not happy.

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<v Speaker 6>Who knows where that goes. We saw what happened with

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<v Speaker 6>Melvin Gordon. They don't suffer that. You're not about to

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<v Speaker 6>hold them hostage. Try to sit if you want to.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they don't care. But I just think of

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<v Speaker 6>that player as this is a player who I believe

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<v Speaker 6>that still has something there and people can look up

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<v Speaker 6>and like, oh why did we let him go? Oh

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<v Speaker 6>he still had more? Because we give guys extra rundown when.

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<v Speaker 3>They leave here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just thinking of the story, you know what, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow, Ohio State, Eliah four, he went to LSU

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<v Speaker 4>and then Ezekiel Elliot going to Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the story would be crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you've got Ohio State and LSU connection in there,

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<v Speaker 4>because you got Jamar Chase there, you got Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 4>now you got Ezekiel La.

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<v Speaker 3>You got connections all over the place. You got a

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<v Speaker 3>story to tell.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, like you said, Joe Burrow also

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<v Speaker 4>needs that pass protection as well. And Ezekiel Ellen we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen him be able to still make big time runs.

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<v Speaker 4>He not breaking sixty seventy yards, but when you need

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<v Speaker 4>three or four you need a guy that's gonna pound

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that you move in the sticks. Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 4>Elliott can still get that done. So my vote would be, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 4>you find a way to get to Cincinnati and go

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<v Speaker 4>up there and make that thing happen. They were a

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<v Speaker 4>play away from winning the Super Bowl two years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that offensive line is still not an elite They

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<v Speaker 6>don't have an elite offensive line, so that to me

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<v Speaker 6>even more so why I would go out and get

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<v Speaker 6>at Ezekiela to help protect Joe Burrow. But yes, the

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<v Speaker 6>Ohio connection, I did think of that as well. Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 6>Columbus very close to each other, and he'd be in

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<v Speaker 6>an area where he would have an automatic fan base

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<v Speaker 6>that organization through the years his favor taking Ohio State

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<v Speaker 6>football player.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just think between Mixing.

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<v Speaker 6>And Elliott and that division where you guys know you

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<v Speaker 6>got to play defense. These games are nasty in December

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<v Speaker 6>and January, and that AFC north of that kind of

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<v Speaker 6>ground game. Added what the receivers they have, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>they got weapons. This to means where you improve in

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<v Speaker 6>a small move, if we look at it as a

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<v Speaker 6>small move, it could be a big move down.

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<v Speaker 4>No, both of you make great arguments, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>what fortified your argument is talking about Ezekiel Elliet from

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<v Speaker 4>a past block and standpoint for Cincinnati, Joe Burrows being

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<v Speaker 4>getting punished. I mean, all of the success that he's had,

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<v Speaker 4>he's one of the most sacked quarterback, pressured, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>hit quarterbacks in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've never.

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<v Speaker 4>Understood Cincinnati's modus OPERENDI when it comes down to how

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<v Speaker 4>they recruit, how they draft. Excuse me, now, they draft

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<v Speaker 4>their offensive line, bring in offensive lineman. I knew they

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<v Speaker 4>bought in Lao Collins. He's not healthy. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 4>he's there anymore. I don't know this, but what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saying is is that they have to get some type

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<v Speaker 4>of help for Joe Burrow on that offensive line. Bigger

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<v Speaker 4>than that. You know, when you talk about when a

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<v Speaker 4>guy leaves here, how he doesn't have anything left. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that for Zeke, you know, he's cash in, he's

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<v Speaker 4>got all the money. Doesn't really what he said, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you have to play for other than a championship?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the best for me? That That's what I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>at when I when they say Cincinnati, that gives you

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<v Speaker 4>that opportunity. You're gonna go play somewhere that's gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>a bona fide opportunity to play for a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>And if he can remain healthy throughout the season, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that would that's a great place for him

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<v Speaker 4>to be. I'm still reserving hope for what fun to

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<v Speaker 4>come back.

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<v Speaker 6>He gonna take Stephan Gilmore's number, now, ain't gonna take

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<v Speaker 6>another number?

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<v Speaker 3>What number he gonna take? His college number? Come on, man, listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Separate question.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Joe Burrow about to start a trend because all

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<v Speaker 4>the reports are saying that he's thinking about possibly taking

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<v Speaker 4>it to count his teammates and how much how much

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<v Speaker 4>of the pot they may need in order for them

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<v Speaker 4>to have the right players around him. And he's thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about a guy like t Higgins who was looking for

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<v Speaker 4>a deal. Did you see Joe Burrow taking a discount

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<v Speaker 4>so he can so he can make sure that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just asking who is exact I don't know. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>that's a bigger question. Who is his agent? Who is

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<v Speaker 4>talking to this man? Because the last person we saw

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<v Speaker 4>do that with Tom, Tom was the last person to

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<v Speaker 4>do that. It worked ain't worked out perfect for him,

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<v Speaker 4>But at some point, Dog, you want to catch it

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<v Speaker 4>Tom and no one else and nobody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom out there like a hitchhiker alone.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, nobody. He played for twenty hey to this count.

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<v Speaker 4>And in the end, the Mannings, the Mannings ain't never,

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<v Speaker 4>they ain't never gating no money back. Nobody ever leaves

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<v Speaker 4>money on the table. A Rogers ain't giving no not

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<v Speaker 4>a dime. I'm just asking. I'm just asking the report,

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<v Speaker 4>the reports out there. Do you think it's a possibility

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<v Speaker 4>that he says, hey, man, I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>I get some other people pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure this is at least structured in the way

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<v Speaker 3>where we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a guy like t Higgins picked up, because the

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<v Speaker 4>T Higgins Jamar Chase connection with Joe Burrow is a

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<v Speaker 4>big reason for them being able to go to the

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<v Speaker 4>super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Personally, I'm skeptical.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, at least at least you're not saying this

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<v Speaker 3>is zero.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm skeptical because at the end of the day, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's why I asked about the agent, what is the thing?

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<v Speaker 6>Agents live on percentages that but agents also live on

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<v Speaker 6>the fact. Hey, Danny, you want to sign with me

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<v Speaker 6>because I get my guy's top dollar. Now, heck you

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<v Speaker 6>saw Danny, you ain't get top dollar, right, you want

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<v Speaker 6>to go over there with his agent. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just sitting in your living room and talk to

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<v Speaker 6>you and your fan. I'm here to get Heckma Harrison

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<v Speaker 6>the top dollar because heck my Haeriton, you deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>This business.

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<v Speaker 6>You can be going tomorrow. But we ain't taking on discount.

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<v Speaker 6>We get heck everything and good. It's not Hecma's job

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<v Speaker 6>to save team money. That's what I'm saying. Where the

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<v Speaker 6>agent thing comes in, and that's like, who's this guy?

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<v Speaker 6>Because these dudes live off this whole thing of being

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<v Speaker 6>able to nego. I mean they are dirty. At a

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<v Speaker 6>friend of mine, an agent still in the agency business,

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<v Speaker 6>but the stuff he tell me how they would do

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<v Speaker 6>each other behind it, I'm like, oh, I means, man,

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<v Speaker 6>how do you guys not throw.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw blow lows? Man?

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<v Speaker 6>Knowing people are doing this kind of not only trying

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<v Speaker 6>to take you away, but what they're using against you.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say that, if Burrow's.

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<v Speaker 6>My client and he decides that he wants to take

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<v Speaker 6>less as an agent, I gotta figure out how do

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<v Speaker 6>I spend this?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I spend this?

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<v Speaker 3>As?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Joe, you're the working man of Cincinnati and you're going,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we're about to set up the foundation to

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<v Speaker 6>the feeds the kids and central I mean, I gotta

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<v Speaker 6>come up with some kind of way to spend this

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<v Speaker 6>because it will be used against me.

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<v Speaker 4>Could that be a start for why it's coming out now?

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<v Speaker 4>Could it be getting spent already? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just let you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Joe said, I'm doing everything I can to get

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<v Speaker 4>him the most money. And Joe said he want to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure he get his guys. I mean that's admirable.

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<v Speaker 4>I love how that looks, but man, you better get

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<v Speaker 4>your money. Oh yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Come back into this whole thing about Tom Brady. This

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<v Speaker 6>is what I always used to say. Tom Brady's saving

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<v Speaker 6>them money. But show me where the Patriots are out

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<v Speaker 6>here spending big dollars. Wes welcome. They never spent any

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<v Speaker 6>money on that. We ain't spending money on you. I

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<v Speaker 6>mean all the channel, Joner Bye. I mean that was

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<v Speaker 6>my thing is Tom, you're saving that money. And eventually

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<v Speaker 6>Tom was getting mad too. I'm say saving dollar what

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<v Speaker 6>a dollar is at?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Yes, they were going to Super Bowl like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>the recipe is here, we got it.

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<v Speaker 6>But you're thinking, hey, man, I'm gonna I'll take ten

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<v Speaker 6>dollars less so I can bring Danny Long.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they said up by Danny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah huh, Now they gave you ten dollars, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can bring Danny.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We just don't feel that way about Danny like you do.

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<v Speaker 4>If they did that to Joe, and Joe was like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take list money so I can get Tea

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<v Speaker 4>Higgins paid to make sure he on the squad, and

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<v Speaker 4>the Joe Burrow signed and they're like deuces. Team that'd

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<v Speaker 4>be some of the dirtiest out But you sit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I know. You sitting.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying you see, I still would be dirty and

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<v Speaker 4>still would be like, Oh, man, they call up.

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<v Speaker 3>See how they got you.

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<v Speaker 2>They got you, they did it to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh they did Oh god sniffer man, Oh they gotte

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<v Speaker 4>they did him, dirty boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's hit.

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<v Speaker 6>Danny McCrae for Dallas Cowboys safety joining us right here

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<v Speaker 6>on Newy Scruggs.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a players Lounge bock to you by Tostitos.

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<v Speaker 6>Michael L sent me a tweet and he says, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know if I asked you, but does one season

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<v Speaker 6>make Michael Gallup great? Because I hear a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people talk about a below average player? Can you that's

0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 6>the guys about it on the players land. Now this

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<v Speaker 6>is my response to on Twitter unless you guys reacting

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<v Speaker 6>that I don't consider him a great wide receiver. He's

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<v Speaker 6>not even a number one white. He's a good player,

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<v Speaker 6>but great is something he has yet to achieve in

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<v Speaker 6>my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I said.

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<v Speaker 4>Who said? Did he say somebody said he was great?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Yes, that's what he said. What is is

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<v Speaker 2>because I hear a lot of people talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About it about him being great?

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<v Speaker 6>Right, he says, but does one season make him great?

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<v Speaker 6>And he pointed out his career stats.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, no, I don't.

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's great. Tom consistently.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's shown that, and then him not

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<v Speaker 4>being healthy last year didn't help.

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<v Speaker 8>Do.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that he is a hell of a deep threat. Absolutely.

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.640
<v Speaker 4>When he can stretch the field and go and make

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.160
<v Speaker 4>those fifty to fifty ball, catch those fifty fifty balls,

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 4>that's when he's at his best. It's not him running

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.360
<v Speaker 4>hitch riots and doing all that. When he could take

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<v Speaker 4>the top off of the defense, that that's when he's

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 4>at his best. And I don't think last year he

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<v Speaker 4>was able to do that because he wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 4>come out of his cuts and people were able to

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<v Speaker 4>just sit on every route that he ran. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think he's great. I think he has some stuff

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<v Speaker 4>to prove. And this year he'll be a number three receiver,

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 4>so he's gonna have a lot of stuff to prove.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you got Ceedee Lamb. I know, I'm serious.

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.159
<v Speaker 4>You got you got Ceedee Lamb, and that's what you

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<v Speaker 4>got cook you got Cooks, and then you got Michael Gallup.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what Michael right here in his response where

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<v Speaker 6>he says, I don't believe is the number two, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just a fan of just wondering what is everyone

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<v Speaker 6>seeing that makes him say to say that hopefully he'll

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<v Speaker 6>be himself this year. So that's what he there.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when it comes to the argument about Michael

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Gallup is it's weird for me because I view him

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<v Speaker 4>more than just what he's been pigeonholed in two and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the what you just said, take the top off.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a deep threat. He can on a god boss

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 4>fab as you know post route, that's all he got

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 4>in his repertoire. He's shown, he's shown us over the

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<v Speaker 4>years that he's more than that. And I think twenty

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen with him and Amari Cooper, that was the year

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<v Speaker 4>that I thought, with his eleven hundred yard season that

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<v Speaker 4>Michael was alluding to the one year that ended up

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<v Speaker 4>allowing him to get paid. I think you saw everything

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 4>that he can bring to you out of his wheelhouse.

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 4>But then obviously what is been the detern to his

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<v Speaker 4>productivity has been the injuries. Him and Ceedee Lamb just

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 4>haven't been able to mesh like a true one, to

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<v Speaker 4>receive a cord like you'd like to see, like in

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati in places like that because of his injuries. But finally,

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully this is. I think the thing is is that

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboy front office has wanted that they see the

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<v Speaker 4>potential for that.

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<v Speaker 3>And when he did his interview, I believe it is

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<v Speaker 3>a week ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know which one of our beat writers he

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<v Speaker 4>was with, but he basically saying, look, I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 4>be back in into you know, to come back into headquarters.

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm feeling more confident in my knee coming

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<v Speaker 4>back from an ACL injury.

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<v Speaker 3>That to me gives you the pause.

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<v Speaker 4>Are their belief that Michael Gallup can resurrect his career

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<v Speaker 4>from being that guy that's often injured to giving you

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<v Speaker 4>the eleven hundred yards. But here's the question that I

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 4>have for y'all. You know, what is productivity for your

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<v Speaker 4>number two? Because for me, a name brand number one

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 4>wide receiver is gonna give you thirteen to fifteen double

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<v Speaker 4>digit touchdowns. We've yet to get that from CD Lamb,

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<v Speaker 4>the double digit touchdowns, but he's on the cusp of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe this season for Michael Gallup, if you get

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<v Speaker 4>five to eight, seven or eight touchdowns, to me, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what you want from a number two receiver. And let's

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<v Speaker 4>not act like the number two receiver in Dallas has

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<v Speaker 4>been hasn't been the tight end?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? No, You're right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first, I want to go back to saying I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I want to make sure nobody believes that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pigeonholing Michael Gallup into saying that all he could do

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 4>is run deep ross. I'm saying, when he's at his best,

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 4>that's what he's doing. He is the guy right what

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 4>the defensive coordinator is looking at guys, he's saying, ceedee lamb,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to make sure we don't let him do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Gallup, You got to make sure you don't let

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<v Speaker 4>him get to this part of the field because if

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 4>he does, truly the record game is what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>And he can still run all the routes, but the

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<v Speaker 4>part that fears defensive coordinators is him taking the top

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<v Speaker 4>off the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Number two. Man, Like, when you look around the league,

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<v Speaker 3>and we.

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Just talked about Cincinnati and what those two receivers are

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 4>able to do. Jamar Chase is a number one. And

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 4>then when you look at t Higgins number two, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's trying to get paid because he's putting up over

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<v Speaker 4>a thousand yards and I don't know how many touchdowns

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 4>he had, but he's a force out there. Even when

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<v Speaker 4>you look at Justin Jefferson and Adam Thieln, Adam Thielan

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<v Speaker 4>had more touchdowns in the previous two years than Justin

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Jefferson did.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was double digits a Brown.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you look at guys who are number twos

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<v Speaker 4>in this day and age of the receiver, yeah, they

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 4>essentially have. You have to be able to say, hey man,

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 4>he probably could go be at number one on another team.

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 4>That's what people are looking at for some of their

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 4>number twos. When especially for a team like the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 4>who's our number two this year? Cooks number one on

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<v Speaker 4>any other team? He was number one out there in Houston,

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 4>and he played like a number one out there in

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<v Speaker 4>New Orleans and was very very competitive out there in LA.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you're thinking about the number two guys, yeah,

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 4>you gotta say, hey man, this dude right here, if

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 4>he's not on this team, somebody's probably paying him to

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 4>be a number one. Do you see that in Michael

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 4>gall I don't. I don't, And the reason why I

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 4>don't see that is because of the injuries, and I

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 4>think post previous to that, I would have said based

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 4>off of that one year, Oh, this kid, he can

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 4>go somewhere and be a number one. He was going

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 4>and he was trending in that direction and the injuries

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 4>derailed him.

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<v Speaker 6>When I think of number two is just just listening

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 6>to our conversation right now, T Higgins. I think Odell

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 6>Beckham junior when he was with the Rams, absolutely that

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 6>Super Bowl year cleared.

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 4>But that's the season Cooper Cup had, like I mean,

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 4>crazy numbers, one of the Triple Crown.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 6>But I'm just saying that boom, here's your two Devontae

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 6>Smith and Philadelphia. I think of him as a two feeling.

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.400
<v Speaker 6>Last year in Minnesota, you got Jefferson, here's feeling. Mike

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 6>Williams out there with the Chargers, you.

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Got Cannan down him.

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<v Speaker 6>Michael Gallup is not in that realm of receiver when

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 6>I'm thinking about what these guys do, I don't see

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 6>him in that fashion, and so he's got work to

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 6>do to get there.

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>That's that's you know.

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 6>When we talk about where a guy is and where

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 6>you see him, he's not in that conversation yet, He's

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 6>got work to do to get himself in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I said, if for me, the numbers for Michael

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 4>Gallup is in a thousand yards. The numbers for Michael

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 4>Gallup is between seven and eight hundred yards and possibly

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 4>having that Adam Thieling ten touchdown year, you know, because

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 4>everybody's double team and on cd on on the outside.

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 4>That's a success for me as a number two. Because

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 4>Adam Thieling his numbers are seven sixteen last year, seven

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 4>twenty six a year before and his best season nine

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty eight, nine twenty five and twenty twenty.

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 3>So number of touchdowns in no seasons fourteen, ten and

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 3>six yeah, yards out there.

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<v Speaker 4>What did I say is is the what the best?

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 4>If you would you would aspire to. Everybody wants fourteen touchdowns,

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 4>even as a number one receiver, you want fourteen.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Touchdowns off the rep.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 4>But for I think for Michael Gallup, let's let's go

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 4>back to Ceede Lamb. If Ceedee Lamb has fourteen hundred

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 4>yards fourteen touchdowns, that he is crowning himself as the

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.959
<v Speaker 4>number one receiver. We just hadn't seen him a cent

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 4>to that level. As far as the production is there,

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 4>the yard is is there, but the touchdowns haven't been there. Listen,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Let's let's just answer this question here because you brought

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 4>it up, and I want to know your opinion. Who

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 4>is our number two receiver right nowoks? So why we

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 4>asking Michael Gallup? He's not even the number two on

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 4>our squad right now? And even and you know Michael

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 4>who had hit sent us detwity, he's a he's not

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 4>a number two, but to me, he's always been a three.

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 6>What I think of go back to old school rams,

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 6>is it go? I mean it was Terry Tory Hill,

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 6>it was Isa King. I look at Gallop like that

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 6>when we when when the Cowboys, when he had Kelvin Martin,

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.959
<v Speaker 6>no number three guy, damn sure effective right there. But

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 6>you had Urban, you had Harper next thing, you know,

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 6>Kelvin Martin out here?

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Catch it bad?

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh forgot about Kelvin Martin.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 6>That's what I look at my gala bats right now.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 6>That's what he's shown you in his best it's in

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 6>that spot. If he wants to be considered it too

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 6>and move up to that, then yeah, you got to

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 6>go there. I know he said before, Hey, I like

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 6>to think you know I'm a number one receiver. Then

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 6>that's fine. But right now, right now, and that's my

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 6>biggest thing is right now what old Bill Parcell's on.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>All I can go by is what I see.

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 6>By the way, went to Swooth the King, your man

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 6>Danny here talking about the bruh.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 3>That's the one bruh.

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>This is good.

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>At first, after that, I thought.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 4>You were eating beans with and I was like, what

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 4>is a bean? Berl strawberries? That's granola. Set it off, man,

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 4>This is good. Now looks good.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 3>No, it's good.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you man, you know.

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh and do we all trust DeVante Adams in his

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 4>opinion on on receivers and the skilled positions in the league. Yeah, okay,

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 4>because he said he said our guys top five. He said,

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 4>CD Lamb is a top five receiver in the league,

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 4>and I'm leaning towards to believe in them, just based

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 4>off what we've seen him do last year and kind

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 4>of the the efficiencies that we had on our offense.

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I think that this year, revamped with Mike McCarthy as

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 4>a play caller, I think we see ceedee Lamb. He

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 4>took off last year, but I think he has sent

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 4>to that, like what you said, crowning himself, you know,

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 4>one of the top guys in the league.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 6>By the way the NFL owners meanings to go and

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 6>look at get Look who sitting down there on the

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<v Speaker 6>microphone talking Joe Jr. Cowboy secondary defensive passing game court.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll get getting some love better talking to us guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, he got some guys. He got some guys right, yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And once again they should be looked at as

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<v Speaker 6>the strength of this football team. And if Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 6>becomes a play caller, we think then the offense should

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<v Speaker 6>be able to complement this defense even more. Or let's

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<v Speaker 6>by Toe Steevesbury Church with today off. Okay, so right

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<v Speaker 6>now NFL Network there interviewing our guy, Joe Witt, Junior's

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<v Speaker 6>Cowboys secondary pass gain coordinator here, long time coach with

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<v Speaker 6>Mike McCarthy. Is this the best secondary talking corners of

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<v Speaker 6>safetyes combined that we've seen here in I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>almost a decade coming into this year, potentially.

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<v Speaker 4>More than that, because I was here. I got here

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty ten, and I don't remember us having having

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<v Speaker 4>guys like that. Like I remember we drafted draft him on.

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<v Speaker 4>We had the car and the expectation was what these

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<v Speaker 4>guys that have already done. But Stephan Gilmore has been

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<v Speaker 4>a top guy in the league for the last seven

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<v Speaker 4>six seven years.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you got Trayvon Diggs who lay at the.

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<v Speaker 4>League and interceptions a year prior to this one, and

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 4>then now he stepped up his game. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>as many interceptions, but as far as his coveraging technique

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 4>he got I thought he got a lot better. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you say, all right, now you got steph fu

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<v Speaker 4>Gilmore and you got Trayvon Diggs ascending him and becoming

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 4>a better player. Yeah, you definitely got to in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>And oh, by the way, you got three great safeties.

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<v Speaker 4>You just paid one and then you got hooker and

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<v Speaker 4>you got cursed as the leader of the secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, you should be feeling really good about your secondary

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 4>room right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I feel so good about.

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 4>The addition of Stephan Gilmour, and based off of everything

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 4>that you said of him being the man all these

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 4>years in the league, but his ability to play man

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 4>set you up being zoned. You know, it's just overall

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 4>football like you, I think just really reeks of what

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 4>we've needed. They've needed a guy like him for a

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 4>very long time. They've tried to depend on Anthony Brown

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 4>to be that, and we've seen several games which just

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Brown did not live up to the billing of

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 4>the contract or any of that. The safety is also

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<v Speaker 4>really what gives me the most confidence when you sign

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 4>a guy like Donovan Wilson for over the last couple

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 4>of years, seemed like he was on the outs and

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 4>then dan Quinn comes in and the next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he has a completely resurgence renewing of his career. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think him and his ability with Jerran Curse as

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<v Speaker 4>just enforced us back there against the run game, but

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<v Speaker 4>also in passing when you have Malik Hooker that you

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<v Speaker 4>can also bring in in those sub packages. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>believe it or not, I mean a lot of teams

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 4>go you know five, you know six, You don't have

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 4>as many as you possibly can. It's because of this

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<v Speaker 4>passing league that we have. But Stephan Gilmore, Trayvon Diggs

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<v Speaker 4>to me on paper, looked like one of the tops

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<v Speaker 4>in the NFC East. And that's knowing what we have

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<v Speaker 4>over in Philly and everywhere else. I think they the best.

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<v Speaker 4>And oh, by the way, who let the team and

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 4>interceptions last season that I forgot to mention?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it Darron Bland. Don't forget. Don't forget the rookie

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<v Speaker 3>who came in and showed.

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<v Speaker 4>That he can take the ball away and make a

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<v Speaker 4>huge impact on the defense. So now you got Stepun

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<v Speaker 4>Stephunk Gilmore, you got Trayvon Dings, you got Dron blaand

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<v Speaker 4>you got Malik Hooking. You got j Ron Curse, like

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<v Speaker 4>you're just looking at this, you say, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>we should We should be okay no matter what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>You got an injury that you got a little depth

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<v Speaker 4>at the cornerback position, Well yeah you should.

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<v Speaker 3>You should be okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And and and the other question is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>is Jordan lewis gonna be what's gonna be his timeline

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 4>on returning as well? That's that's important.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot forgot me, yeah, Jay Lou.

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<v Speaker 6>And what's going to make this secondary even better? Potentially

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 6>Mozzie Smith m h. And I think that fans who

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<v Speaker 6>And this is a shame because I saw that rookie

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 6>They did have the l A Coliseum for the peninie

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<v Speaker 6>trading cards. They brought out all the rookies and Deuce

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 6>Vaughan got he got to go out and be a

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<v Speaker 6>part of the rookie trading Yeah yeah, and Shoemaker yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>school schoon and and and Deuce first round pick, I

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 6>mean rare is it? The Dallas Cowboys first round draft

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 6>pick is not in that shoot?

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 3>It is rare.

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>And Mozzie was.

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<v Speaker 6>Not there, and I hated for him because what he

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 6>does is not something you can write down statistically.

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 2>It's what other people are able to do.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's almost like being an offensive lineman, having

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 6>that kind of position he has in the line, but

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 6>his ability to help stop the run and force teams

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 6>eventually into third and seven or third and eight. That's

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 6>gonna make those guys back there better because they know

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<v Speaker 6>there's gonna have to pass.

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna know what to do.

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<v Speaker 6>So I really think that a guy like Mazie Smith

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<v Speaker 6>fans who may not be up on what he does,

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<v Speaker 6>he's going to help you. And that's how he gets

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 6>helped us defensively. Man, they're gonna be They're gonna be

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 6>put some good situations.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a first round defensive tackle pick, all right, And

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 4>with this being a passing league and how things have changed,

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 4>and you have to look at guys like Vitave and

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 4>hard Grave and you say, you know, what, can you

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 4>make an impact from that position? Absolutely, he may have

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 4>not had that type of gameplay when he was in

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 4>college because you're in college, you're not around a guy

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 4>like Dan Quinn, right, so you start adding tools to

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 4>your game and all of a sudden, you say, all right,

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 4>the Masi Smith that you washed and you thought that

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 4>was the position that he was only going to be

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 4>able to play. Oh man, dan Quinn got his hands

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 4>on him and he showed him this is how you

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 4>do this. This is the movee you need to make.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 4>This is how you read this. And all of a

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 4>sudden you said, oh wait, hold on what he got?

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 3>He had? How many sacks from them vices will for.

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 2>You know what he did?

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 6>How Bill Bill Balch was able to utilize his services.

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 6>I just think those guys are so important. And I

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 6>think Bill parcelsh and he had Leonard Marshall up foot hurt.

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 6>You know, you guys like that help other players, and

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 6>that's where to me that secondary they get more help

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 6>because now you just can't run up the good on

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 6>the Cowboys and now it's second and second and two.

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 4>But the other thing new is is the fact that

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 4>you have players like that that they're not stat sheet guys,

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 4>if they're not going to do anything that you notice that,

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh my.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:50.479
<v Speaker 3>God, he had this many tackles for lost.

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 4>What he's going to do is gobble love blocks and

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 4>needs going to make life a lot easier for Michael

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 4>Parson's tank, Lawrence and other players.

0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm saying. That is what this defense

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 3>has needed.

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 4>When we saw in those games where the running game

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 4>got going against Green Bay, when you know other teams

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.919
<v Speaker 4>capitalized on the running game, it was because we were

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 4>not stopping the run. And even when they take advantage

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 4>in the passing game, we're not pushing the pocket. We're

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 4>not making the quarterback uncomfortable back that even with Micah

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 4>on the field. So that's where I think when you

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 4>have a player like Mazie that look mans as dimensional

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 4>as his game is, I think he's going to add

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 4>to your secondary, to your point to make them that

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 4>much better because now you're able to present so much

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 4>more pressure.

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 6>Warren Sap always said this, the back don't work without.

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:42.720
<v Speaker 3>The front, and he had a good good front. Boy cool. Yeah.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 6>And I was watching a clip from Jack Lambert and

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 6>they were talking about the seventy six Pittsburgh Steelers that

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 6>didn't win the Super Bowl but lost in the AFC

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 6>Championship game without an effective Rocky Blyer Franko Harris, but

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 6>up front they were so good that Jack Lambert and

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 6>Jack ham had Hall of Fame careers. Off the dudes

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 6>up front and in the back you got Mail Blood.

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean, their secondary was just like either they were

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 6>lighting you up, hitting you because you touched, they cracked

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 6>back on you, or they were sting intercepting the ball.

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 6>But everything started up front. And that's that same thing

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 6>when Warren Sapt talked about Tampa. Hey, the back don't

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 6>work without the front, and that's the same thing here.

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 2>The back.

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 6>Here we see what the back in the Cowboys potentially

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 6>can be. It can be pretty good, it'll be really

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 6>good you get that front up there. That's where Diggs

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 6>might be able to lead the league in interceptions, or

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<v Speaker 6>even Gilmour can return to that defensive player of the

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 6>year for him there. I'll tell you, if I was

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.720
<v Speaker 6>one of these defensive guys, I'd be bringing in lunch.

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 6>I'd be bringing donuts for these dudes up front here,

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<v Speaker 6>because hey, guys, you do your thing, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Rather than in the first round, I'm telling you, I

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 4>believe that they see more in him than just being

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 4>a guy who could take up blocks. I think they

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<v Speaker 4>see some potential in him where he can be a

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<v Speaker 4>force in the passing game, not just pushing the pocket,

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<v Speaker 4>but teaching them some moves to make him be a

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<v Speaker 4>guy who they say, hey, man, we need to make

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 4>sure we block that guard. He's gonna wreck our game

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 4>for you to go pick a defensive tackle in the

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 4>first round. Dan Quinn type of guy who specializes in

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<v Speaker 4>defensive defensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he sees more than just.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 4>A guy who he's gonna teach how to, hey man,

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:17.479
<v Speaker 4>hit hit an extend and then stay in your gap.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I see more than that. I said it

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<v Speaker 4>from the beginning. I wanted who dan Quinn want me,

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<v Speaker 4>and if it was Mozzie Smith, then I'm in agreeance

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<v Speaker 4>to that. My whole thing, and what I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about is who else is going to benefit up front

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 4>from Mozzie's presence. You know, I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>hard for him just to be a one trick pony

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 4>and just to be a guy. Now I'm gobbling up

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 4>two and three guys at a time to allow these

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 4>other guys to run. They're gonna put a package in

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna allow him to get to the quarterback. But

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 4>guys like Daurrence Armstrong has got to be licking his chops.

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 4>A guy that had a great season last season but

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 4>will benefit as well. You talk about those said Diggi

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.919
<v Speaker 4>Zua being a guy that's gonna benefit. There's so many

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 4>guys that can benefit by having a true one tech

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 4>that can gobble the way that Mozzie Smith is put

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<v Speaker 4>intentially gonna do.

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<v Speaker 6>What if you took and we've seen Dan Quinn, do

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 6>you take us out put tank on the D line

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 6>inside a D tackle spot with Mazie. Then you got

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.919
<v Speaker 6>Parsons on one spot, the Dorans or Shrung.

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that could be interesting.

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 6>They can come up with some schemes here so that

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 6>that portion is pretty good. But man, I hate once

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 6>again I go back there. I hate the fact that

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 6>a guy like Majie Smith did not get the opportunity

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 6>to go out here to get it, get it, get

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 6>his picture, man, the trading card picture with.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 3>You when you saw us, like, hey, what's going on?

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:38.760
<v Speaker 3>They went with the flash man.

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 2>And that it was him. You hate that part.

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 6>Like, guys, he may not be quote unquote sexy to

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 6>you right now, but start winning now.

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Vince Woolford looked real sexy.

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 3>For the time right, noverybody, absolutely.

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 6>You know those guys matter. Booker McFarland's matter. I mean

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:56.919
<v Speaker 6>you get those big boys up there, man, they matter,

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 6>Sam Adams, Tony Sarah Goose with the Ravens. Man, these dudes, Matt.

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 6>If we're talking about football, this is what it should be.

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 6>And and you know, ain't nothing wrong with the kids saying,

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 6>hey man, this this guy, this guy's defensive tackle taking off.

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 2>He man up here taking on folks. I mean, I

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>hate that for.

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 3>The other we're talking about this before we get out

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 3>of here.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey man, hey, your guy, Okay, he making the man

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 4>with everybody jersey. Don't they call the man say it

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 4>was a sament you have on the Philly jersey? Listen, man,

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 4>can I say this, I won't say this about that.

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 4>When you Michael, when you ball like Michael Parsons, you

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 4>can wear whatever jersey you want. It's not about wearing No,

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.240
<v Speaker 4>when you bought, when you Michael Carson can wear whatever

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 4>you want to when the player on the opposing team,

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 4>all the way you want. You just had all Michael

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Park whatever you like. Drake the Bazooka could wear whatever

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 4>he want. No, it wasn't about him wearing the jersey.

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Bro he got on the Philly jersey from the Philly

0:45:56.360 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 4>player and then the Celtics players like hold on, bro, did.

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 3>You just have.

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Courtsied over there with that?

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 3>So nothing about you. Yeah where whatever Jersey go.

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>To South Beat showing Jimmy Butler Jersey.

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 3>He even said himself, he said many.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 4>Native time out, time out, Michael time out. Michael might

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 4>be in Miami and heat Jersey.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 3>He knows.

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 4>He said, next year, hes gonna pick one team and

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 4>stick with him because he understands. So we know we

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 4>ain't saying nothing that you know, ain't nobody else saying.

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 4>He came out and saying this ain't now you well

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to look like Drake, but get you

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 4>a team, bro, get your team his team.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 3>I thought the team was going to state. You don't

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 3>know what his team.

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:40.439
<v Speaker 8>Don't wear?

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Just where they all?

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Right? Man, they get off hey, man, get off the briefcase. Man. Yeah,

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 3>you know he took it to strive. He knows.

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Is he gonna show up in South Beach because they

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:57.240
<v Speaker 2>went to the final.

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're gonna show up, show up in South Beach,

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Michael with your heat jersey onn O t by the stuff.

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.240
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's a by the s. He focused.

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:12.760
<v Speaker 6>He focused where Jaal Murray.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna start getting that Uh who got put out

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:16.800
<v Speaker 4>the l a charges of arena?

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Who is that they gonna be course, tickets are no

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 3>longer available. Dog, he couldn't get that prespect.

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no sideline passes. He was up in the stands.

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Rest in peace. Jim Brown.

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, great, the greatest football player of all

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:38.280
<v Speaker 4>time period.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, don't tell me Tom right now, it's Jim Brown,

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 6>and it's Jim Brown. One of the three most intimidating

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:46.240
<v Speaker 6>people I've ever been able to interview in sports.

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Jim Brown. Great guy.

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 6>Got to meet him in Cleveland back when he used

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 6>to let the media eat with the team. He walked

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 6>in there. Belichick was a head coach time, and then

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 6>Art Modell was in. You thought you would have thought

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 6>Jim on the team. You'd have thought because the way.

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 2>They respected him. Reviewed.

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I'd never seen pro players treat another

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 6>dude like that, Like it was royalty up in this moment.

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was.

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 2>That kind of guy. Man, He was that kind of guy.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And then when he was in La Man he was

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 2>always kind of me.

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 6>Just Jim Brown, Greys football player of all time period period.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 6>Danny McCrae, Heck Maharrison, I'm a new discuss for Chris Bean,

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 6>Jazz Big Will.

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's a part of this.

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