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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison and

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Speaker 1: New He scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Players up my day, Let's ride.

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Speaker 3: Why you do that?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 4: How you do Why you do your nick like that?

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Speaker 4: Let me put your on, he said Barry turch I said,

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Speaker 4: all right, man, y'all wrong, boy, y'all do that, y'all

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Speaker 4: do a play wrong.

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Speaker 3: But let me tell you something. Man. Listen.

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Speaker 4: I went back and listened to a few episodes when

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Speaker 4: I was off the show. Y'all didn't give me no break,

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Speaker 4: So I don't. I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: Hear.

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Speaker 3: Well, we couldn't divulge where you were. That is true. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it couldn't, y'all. Y'all lean more to it then.

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Speaker 6: I think because we could. I thought I gave the

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Speaker 6: proper proper. I thought it was proper when I said

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Speaker 6: Danny's on assignment, Yeah the first Okay, That's why I tried,

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Speaker 6: because that way I didn't give away anything. And people

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Speaker 6: think he was what he want assignment. So so that's

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Speaker 6: what I did.

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Speaker 3: Now the third time, y'all was on.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what it is.

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Speaker 3: You know why? You know where he is?

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Speaker 6: Heck Ma Harrison anywhere, crab knew he Scruggs, Barry Church,

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Speaker 6: day off church Church's gott got a couple of sick

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Speaker 6: little ones. So you know you got you got to

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Speaker 6: take care of your kids. That's priority. Some boom do

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Speaker 6: what you.

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Speaker 3: Do there, brood excuse Yeah, that's a good reason.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's always a good reason.

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Speaker 3: But it's the reason he ain't here. Now we missed

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Speaker 3: your church.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't want him on zoom. No, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 4: get him on zoom. He just show out when he

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Speaker 4: on zoom, he sit behind the wine gallon.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Come on, now, he got

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Speaker 3: the whole four year behind the.

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Speaker 2: Whole I have money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know what he does.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I did get the bag.

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Speaker 4: You could have picked anywhere in the house except oh

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Speaker 4: you got the wine cellar by Okay, I got you,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 6: I remember the time I did his zoom with lt

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Speaker 6: and uh Tomlinson did it in his uh in this

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Speaker 6: theater room. Yeah, I'm like, wow, I'm like, why why

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Speaker 6: am I going out to the Look Theater.

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Speaker 3: I just need to go to your house. I may

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Speaker 3: got legit fit. It was nice.

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Speaker 6: I might as well had the Academy wards and then

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Speaker 6: Chris Rock and the Tucks and go live from LT's house.

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Speaker 2: Some money, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, no, he took care

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Speaker 2: of it very well.

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Speaker 6: ESPN Football Power indexes out and the Cowboys and of eight,

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Speaker 6: the Jets are six.

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Speaker 3: Throw the whole list away.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys played the Jets with Week two.

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Speaker 4: List the way because the Jets are but the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: of course.

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Speaker 6: I'm just trying to understand all this hype behind the Jets,

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Speaker 6: which which is, yeah, good for the Cowboys because you know,

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Speaker 6: we'll let every people how to shine. But I just

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Speaker 6: I just like, why are people buying into this Jets thing?

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Speaker 2: Anyway? Your number one team on the.

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Speaker 6: Power in nexolence Kansas City, as it should, No problem

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Speaker 6: is that number two is Buffalo, Number three phil Alphia, no.

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Speaker 3: Problem, good man. I don't know, man, I.

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Speaker 4: Know how last season ended and all that, But man,

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Speaker 4: I just the Cincinnati Bengals to me, I think they're

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Speaker 4: better than the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Well, they are on the list.

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Speaker 4: They on the list. But I'm saying, well, we listed

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Speaker 4: the top three. I just think you said they should

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Speaker 4: be at number two instead of below.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Buffalo should be at number two. I

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Speaker 4: think Phillis should be at number two, and then probably

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Speaker 4: we watched, Listen, we watched the Super Bowl game. It

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Speaker 4: was just close one team and Philly wing got better

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Speaker 4: on paper. So I don't understand how Buffalo is then

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Speaker 4: the Josh Allen argument is always intriguing, you know. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I think people make a lot of him and

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Speaker 4: it's been because of the playoffs. It's been because of

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Speaker 4: their quarterback, you know what you need. And so Buffalo

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Speaker 4: is always going to be in contention because of Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen and also you know, Stephon Man. They got some

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Speaker 4: really good players and they got a damn good defense.

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Speaker 4: Also to go with that.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with what you're saying. I'm taking a

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Speaker 6: bit further because this is true. Because I've talked to

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Speaker 6: too many people, my friends who worked there. There is

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Speaker 6: an East Coast bias when it comes to these ESPN

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Speaker 6: a bias of who they like. Be it, Hey, we're

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Speaker 6: gonna talk about the I Woars and plump them up high.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk about the Lakers. They do that there to

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Speaker 6: disrespect a man who's actually been to a Super Bowl

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Speaker 6: versus another guy who's a good football player. Okay, I

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Speaker 6: think Josh Allen is a When you're talking about the

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow. But Joe Burrow went and did that thing

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Speaker 6: you talk about not a whole lot of help.

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Speaker 2: That offensive line was terrible.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if they have some help up front, they

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Speaker 6: I do see your point when you talk about the disrespect,

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Speaker 6: And I do think that's because because when you're a

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Speaker 4: They So you're saying Cincinnati should be number two or

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Speaker 4: Philly should be number two, were you I would.

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Speaker 6: Say this, I would put the Bengals ahead of Buffalo

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Speaker 6: Power Index. I agree with him on that.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, you made a comment last last show that

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Speaker 4: we have that there's always a team that's gonna come

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Speaker 4: and I think we saw that from Philly even though

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Speaker 4: last year. To me, that came from the basement all

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Speaker 4: the way to the top to play in a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And it's the time consistency improved thing.

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Speaker 6: For me when I brought that. We're about last play.

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Speaker 6: So every year there is a last play, a team

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Speaker 6: who was finished last year.

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Speaker 3: Before, who wins their divisi Jacksonville Bingo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well Philly for me, I mean I wasn't surprised

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Speaker 6: I picked them to win the division. A lot of

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Speaker 4: So after the acquisition of AJ Brown and all the

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Speaker 4: things that they did in the off season, Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: would have been a fool not to think that. But let'sten,

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about a team that maybe they didn't put

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Speaker 4: show that time consistency and proved to put them at

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Speaker 4: number two. Look last year season, I'm not wanting to

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Speaker 4: call that a joke, all right, but do it again.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it again, and I would put the Bengals there.

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Speaker 4: I would put the Bengals then for because their consistency

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Speaker 4: back where they were back in the Super Bowl. They

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Speaker 4: have played the Cincinnati Cincinnati Okay, ye'll talking about the Banks,

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Speaker 4: not a Cincinnati has showed that consistency over the last

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Speaker 3: That's who. That's why. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: When you look at consistency from Philly, they made the

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Speaker 4: get better, they go to Super Bowl. I mean this

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Speaker 3: They're starting to show some consistenty. It's somebody unique.

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Speaker 4: How you don't get a Cowboys that same see said

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Okay, went to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I got all right, all right?

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Speaker 3: Truth.

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Speaker 4: If the Cowboys go to the super Bowl consistent, that's

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Speaker 4: three back to back playoffs seasons and Super Bowl right

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Speaker 4: heck trying to hop on because I'm.

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Speaker 3: What'd you say.

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Speaker 2: Your truth over? I don't want to hear that.

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Speaker 3: No, Cincinnati should be above Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: To me, I had one more thing I want to

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Speaker 6: throw about the Bengals. They should be trying to get

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Speaker 6: a contract done with Ezekiel Elliott because Joe Mixon has

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Speaker 6: shown a propensity to be injured seventeen game season. Give

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Speaker 6: I am one of the I told some anything Zeus

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Speaker 6: not done. He's not done at all. I said, you

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Speaker 6: I think the guy could get you a thousand yards.

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Speaker 2: I do believe that.

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Speaker 6: I just think when people leave here, especially stars on

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Speaker 6: big contracts, it's almost as though we run them down.

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Speaker 6: Extra Terrence Newman left here, Man, people talked it was

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Speaker 6: just trash talk. That guy dude was playing. He ripped

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Speaker 6: I talked to team and I said, Timmy, why aren't

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Speaker 6: you telling people what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I don't want anybody. I think it's an excuse.

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Speaker 6: And he's like my teammatesnow's going I said, but the

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Speaker 6: problem is we in the public, especially me, we don't know,

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Speaker 6: so people just thinking you, mister toasty torch, can't guard

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Speaker 6: anybody anymore. Guy went on to Cincinnati and Minnesota and

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Speaker 6: where yeah, man, he not worth the production dot all.

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Speaker 6: That old miss guy goes up to goes up to Denver,

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Speaker 6: balls out, balls out, mentors von Miller, who becomes Super

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Speaker 2: Now he's getting ready to go get a gold jacket

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Speaker 2: this August.

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Speaker 6: I feel that Ezekiel Elliott Elliott is getting some of

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Speaker 6: that same thing where people are just adding extra salt

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Speaker 6: if he goes to the right opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: These are two organizations, in my opinion, who should put

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Speaker 6: Maybe asking the sentence in there, but I think Ezekiel.

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Speaker 6: It can help them and more importantly help the quarterback

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow, justin Herbert two headed monster.

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Speaker 3: So Zeke going to fool with Kelling Moore.

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Speaker 6: You know what if you're Kellen Moore and you're putting

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Speaker 6: To Herbert Burrow, which both of these organizations are doing,

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Speaker 4: Now you've got Ohio State and LSU connection in there,

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Speaker 2: So I just think between Mixing.

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Speaker 4: No, both of you make great arguments, and I think

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Speaker 4: That's the best for me? That That's what I'm looking

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Speaker 4: And if he can remain healthy throughout the season, man,

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Speaker 6: He gonna take Stephan Gilmore's number, now, ain't gonna take

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Speaker 3: Separate question.

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Speaker 4: Is Joe Burrow about to start a trend because all

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Speaker 4: just asking who is exact I don't know. I'm just

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Speaker 4: that's a bigger question. Who is his agent? Who is

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Speaker 4: But at some point, Dog, you want to catch it

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Speaker 3: You know, nobody. He played for twenty hey to this count.

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Speaker 4: And in the end, the Mannings, the Mannings ain't never,

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Speaker 4: they ain't never gating no money back. Nobody ever leaves

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Speaker 3: Make sure this is at least structured in the way

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Speaker 2: Personally, I'm skeptical.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, at least at least you're not saying this

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Speaker 6: I'm skeptical because at the end of the day, and

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Speaker 6: Agents live on percentages that but agents also live on

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Speaker 6: because I get my guy's top dollar. Now, heck you

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Speaker 6: I'm just sitting in your living room and talk to

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Speaker 6: the top dollar because heck my Haeriton, you deserve it.

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Speaker 3: This business.

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Speaker 6: You can be going tomorrow. But we ain't taking on discount.

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Speaker 6: We get heck everything and good. It's not Hecma's job

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Speaker 6: Because these dudes live off this whole thing of being

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Speaker 6: but the stuff he tell me how they would do

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Speaker 6: how do you guys not throw.

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Speaker 3: Throw blow lows? Man?

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Speaker 6: Knowing people are doing this kind of not only trying

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Speaker 2: So when you say that, if Burrow's.

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Speaker 6: My client and he decides that he wants to take

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Speaker 2: Do I spend this?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Joe, you're the working man of Cincinnati and you're going,

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Speaker 6: you know, we're about to set up the foundation to

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Speaker 4: Could that be a start for why it's coming out now?

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Speaker 4: Could it be getting spent already? Man?

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Speaker 3: I'm just let you know.

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Speaker 4: Man, Joe said, I'm doing everything I can to get

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Speaker 4: make sure he get his guys. I mean that's admirable.

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Speaker 4: I love how that looks, but man, you better get

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Speaker 6: Come back into this whole thing about Tom Brady. This

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Speaker 6: here spending big dollars. Wes welcome. They never spent any

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Speaker 3: Now? Yes, they were going to Super Bowl like, hey,

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Speaker 6: But you're thinking, hey, man, I'm gonna I'll take ten

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Speaker 2: You know what they said up by Danny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah huh, Now they gave you ten dollars, you.

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Speaker 2: Can bring Danny.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We just don't feel that way about Danny like you do.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take list money so I can get Tea

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Speaker 4: the Joe Burrow signed and they're like deuces. Team that'd

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Speaker 3: That's what I know. You sitting.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying you see, I still would be dirty and

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Speaker 3: See how they got you.

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Speaker 2: They got you, they did it to you.

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Speaker 4: Oh they did Oh god sniffer man, Oh they gotte

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Speaker 6: Michael L sent me a tweet and he says, I

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Speaker 6: don't know if I asked you, but does one season

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Speaker 6: make Michael Gallup great? Because I hear a lot of

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Speaker 6: people talk about a below average player? Can you that's

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Speaker 6: the guys about it on the players land. Now this

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Speaker 6: is my response to on Twitter unless you guys reacting

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Speaker 6: that I don't consider him a great wide receiver. He's

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Speaker 6: not even a number one white. He's a good player,

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Speaker 6: but great is something he has yet to achieve in

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Speaker 6: my opinion.

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Speaker 3: That's what I said.

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Speaker 4: Who said? Did he say somebody said he was great?

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Speaker 2: That's what Yes, that's what he said. What is is

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Speaker 2: because I hear a lot of people talk.

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Speaker 3: About it about him being great?

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Speaker 6: Right, he says, but does one season make him great?

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Speaker 6: And he pointed out his career stats.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's great. Tom consistently.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's shown that, and then him not

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Speaker 4: being healthy last year didn't help.

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Speaker 8: Do.

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Speaker 4: I think that he is a hell of a deep threat. Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: When he can stretch the field and go and make

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Speaker 4: those fifty to fifty ball, catch those fifty fifty balls,

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Speaker 4: that's when he's at his best. It's not him running

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Speaker 4: hitch riots and doing all that. When he could take

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Speaker 4: the top off of the defense, that that's when he's

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Speaker 4: at his best. And I don't think last year he

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Speaker 4: was able to do that because he wasn't able to

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Speaker 4: come out of his cuts and people were able to

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Speaker 4: just sit on every route that he ran. But I

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Speaker 4: don't think he's great. I think he has some stuff

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Speaker 4: to prove. And this year he'll be a number three receiver,

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Speaker 4: so he's gonna have a lot of stuff to prove.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you got Ceedee Lamb. I know, I'm serious.

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Speaker 4: You got you got Ceedee Lamb, and that's what you

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Speaker 4: got cook you got Cooks, and then you got Michael Gallup.

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Speaker 6: And that's what Michael right here in his response where

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Speaker 6: he says, I don't believe is the number two, but

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Speaker 6: I'm just a fan of just wondering what is everyone

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Speaker 6: seeing that makes him say to say that hopefully he'll

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Speaker 6: be himself this year. So that's what he there.

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Speaker 4: You know, when it comes to the argument about Michael

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Speaker 4: Gallup is it's weird for me because I view him

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Speaker 4: more than just what he's been pigeonholed in two and

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Speaker 4: that's the what you just said, take the top off.

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Speaker 4: He's a deep threat. He can on a god boss

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Speaker 4: fab as you know post route, that's all he got

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Speaker 4: in his repertoire. He's shown, he's shown us over the

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Speaker 4: years that he's more than that. And I think twenty

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Speaker 4: nineteen with him and Amari Cooper, that was the year

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Speaker 4: that I thought, with his eleven hundred yard season that

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Speaker 4: Michael was alluding to the one year that ended up

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Speaker 4: allowing him to get paid. I think you saw everything

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Speaker 4: that he can bring to you out of his wheelhouse.

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Speaker 4: But then obviously what is been the detern to his

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Speaker 4: productivity has been the injuries. Him and Ceedee Lamb just

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Speaker 4: haven't been able to mesh like a true one, to

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Speaker 4: receive a cord like you'd like to see, like in

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati in places like that because of his injuries. But finally,

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Speaker 4: hopefully this is. I think the thing is is that

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Speaker 4: the Cowboy front office has wanted that they see the

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Speaker 4: potential for that.

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Speaker 3: And when he did his interview, I believe it is

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Speaker 3: a week ago.

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Speaker 4: I don't know which one of our beat writers he

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Speaker 4: was with, but he basically saying, look, I'm happy to

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Speaker 4: be back in into you know, to come back into headquarters.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm feeling more confident in my knee coming

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Speaker 4: back from an ACL injury.

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Speaker 3: That to me gives you the pause.

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Speaker 4: Are their belief that Michael Gallup can resurrect his career

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Speaker 4: from being that guy that's often injured to giving you

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Speaker 4: the eleven hundred yards. But here's the question that I

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Speaker 4: have for y'all. You know, what is productivity for your

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Speaker 4: number two? Because for me, a name brand number one

549
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Speaker 4: wide receiver is gonna give you thirteen to fifteen double

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Speaker 4: digit touchdowns. We've yet to get that from CD Lamb,

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Speaker 4: the double digit touchdowns, but he's on the cusp of that.

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Speaker 4: I believe this season for Michael Gallup, if you get

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Speaker 4: five to eight, seven or eight touchdowns, to me, that's

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Speaker 4: what you want from a number two receiver. And let's

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Speaker 4: not act like the number two receiver in Dallas has

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Speaker 4: been hasn't been the tight end?

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Speaker 3: You know? No, You're right.

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Speaker 4: Well, first, I want to go back to saying I

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Speaker 4: don't I want to make sure nobody believes that I'm

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Speaker 4: pigeonholing Michael Gallup into saying that all he could do

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Speaker 4: is run deep ross. I'm saying, when he's at his best,

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Speaker 4: that's what he's doing. He is the guy right what

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Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator is looking at guys, he's saying, ceedee lamb,

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Speaker 4: we got to make sure we don't let him do this.

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Speaker 4: Michael Gallup, You got to make sure you don't let

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Speaker 4: him get to this part of the field because if

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Speaker 4: he does, truly the record game is what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: And he can still run all the routes, but the

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Speaker 4: part that fears defensive coordinators is him taking the top

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Speaker 4: off the defense.

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Speaker 3: Number two. Man, Like, when you look around the league,

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Speaker 3: and we.

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Speaker 4: Just talked about Cincinnati and what those two receivers are

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Speaker 4: able to do. Jamar Chase is a number one. And

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Speaker 4: then when you look at t Higgins number two, and

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Speaker 4: he's trying to get paid because he's putting up over

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Speaker 4: a thousand yards and I don't know how many touchdowns

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Speaker 4: he had, but he's a force out there. Even when

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Speaker 4: you look at Justin Jefferson and Adam Thieln, Adam Thielan

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Speaker 4: had more touchdowns in the previous two years than Justin

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Speaker 4: Jefferson did.

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Speaker 3: I think it was double digits a Brown.

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Speaker 4: So when you look at guys who are number twos

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Speaker 4: in this day and age of the receiver, yeah, they

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Speaker 4: essentially have. You have to be able to say, hey man,

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Speaker 4: he probably could go be at number one on another team.

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Speaker 4: That's what people are looking at for some of their

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Speaker 4: number twos. When especially for a team like the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: who's our number two this year? Cooks number one on

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Speaker 4: any other team? He was number one out there in Houston,

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Speaker 4: and he played like a number one out there in

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Speaker 4: New Orleans and was very very competitive out there in LA.

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Speaker 4: So when you're thinking about the number two guys, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you gotta say, hey man, this dude right here, if

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Speaker 4: he's not on this team, somebody's probably paying him to

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Speaker 4: be a number one. Do you see that in Michael

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Speaker 4: gall I don't. I don't, And the reason why I

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Speaker 4: don't see that is because of the injuries, and I

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Speaker 4: think post previous to that, I would have said based

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Speaker 4: off of that one year, Oh, this kid, he can

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Speaker 4: go somewhere and be a number one. He was going

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Speaker 4: and he was trending in that direction and the injuries

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Speaker 4: derailed him.

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Speaker 6: When I think of number two is just just listening

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Speaker 6: to our conversation right now, T Higgins. I think Odell

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Speaker 6: Beckham junior when he was with the Rams, absolutely that

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl year cleared.

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Speaker 4: But that's the season Cooper Cup had, like I mean,

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Speaker 4: crazy numbers, one of the Triple Crown.

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Speaker 6: But I'm just saying that boom, here's your two Devontae

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Speaker 6: Smith and Philadelphia. I think of him as a two feeling.

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Speaker 6: Last year in Minnesota, you got Jefferson, here's feeling. Mike

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Speaker 6: Williams out there with the Chargers, you.

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Speaker 2: Got Cannan down him.

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Speaker 6: Michael Gallup is not in that realm of receiver when

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking about what these guys do, I don't see

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Speaker 6: him in that fashion, and so he's got work to

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Speaker 6: do to get there.

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Speaker 2: That's that's you know.

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Speaker 6: When we talk about where a guy is and where

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Speaker 6: you see him, he's not in that conversation yet, He's

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Speaker 6: got work to do to get himself in there.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, if for me, the numbers for Michael

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Speaker 4: Gallup is in a thousand yards. The numbers for Michael

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Speaker 4: Gallup is between seven and eight hundred yards and possibly

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Speaker 4: having that Adam Thieling ten touchdown year, you know, because

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Speaker 4: everybody's double team and on cd on on the outside.

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Speaker 4: That's a success for me as a number two. Because

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Speaker 4: Adam Thieling his numbers are seven sixteen last year, seven

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Speaker 4: twenty six a year before and his best season nine

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Speaker 4: twenty eight, nine twenty five and twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: So number of touchdowns in no seasons fourteen, ten and

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Speaker 3: six yeah, yards out there.

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Speaker 4: What did I say is is the what the best?

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Speaker 4: If you would you would aspire to. Everybody wants fourteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: even as a number one receiver, you want fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Touchdowns off the rep.

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Speaker 4: But for I think for Michael Gallup, let's let's go

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Speaker 4: back to Ceede Lamb. If Ceedee Lamb has fourteen hundred

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Speaker 4: yards fourteen touchdowns, that he is crowning himself as the

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Speaker 4: number one receiver. We just hadn't seen him a cent

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Speaker 4: to that level. As far as the production is there,

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Speaker 4: the yard is is there, but the touchdowns haven't been there. Listen,

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Speaker 4: Let's let's just answer this question here because you brought

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Speaker 4: it up, and I want to know your opinion. Who

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Speaker 4: is our number two receiver right nowoks? So why we

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Speaker 4: asking Michael Gallup? He's not even the number two on

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Speaker 4: our squad right now? And even and you know Michael

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Speaker 4: who had hit sent us detwity, he's a he's not

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Speaker 4: a number two, but to me, he's always been a three.

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Speaker 6: What I think of go back to old school rams,

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Speaker 6: is it go? I mean it was Terry Tory Hill,

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Speaker 6: it was Isa King. I look at Gallop like that

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Speaker 6: when we when when the Cowboys, when he had Kelvin Martin,

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Speaker 6: no number three guy, damn sure effective right there. But

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Speaker 6: you had Urban, you had Harper next thing, you know,

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Speaker 6: Kelvin Martin out here?

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Speaker 3: Catch it bad?

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Speaker 2: Oh forgot about Kelvin Martin.

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Speaker 6: That's what I look at my gala bats right now.

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Speaker 6: That's what he's shown you in his best it's in

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Speaker 6: that spot. If he wants to be considered it too

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Speaker 6: and move up to that, then yeah, you got to

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Speaker 6: go there. I know he said before, Hey, I like

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Speaker 6: to think you know I'm a number one receiver. Then

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Speaker 6: that's fine. But right now, right now, and that's my

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Speaker 6: biggest thing is right now what old Bill Parcell's on.

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Speaker 2: All I can go by is what I see.

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Speaker 6: By the way, went to Swooth the King, your man

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Speaker 6: Danny here talking about the bruh.

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Speaker 3: That's the one bruh.

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Speaker 2: This is good.

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Speaker 3: At first, after that, I thought.

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Speaker 4: You were eating beans with and I was like, what

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Speaker 4: is a bean? Berl strawberries? That's granola. Set it off, man,

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Speaker 4: This is good. Now looks good.

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Speaker 3: No, it's good.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you man, you know.

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Speaker 4: Oh and do we all trust DeVante Adams in his

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Speaker 4: opinion on on receivers and the skilled positions in the league. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: because he said he said our guys top five. He said,

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Speaker 4: and I'm leaning towards to believe in them, just based

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Speaker 4: off what we've seen him do last year and kind

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Speaker 4: of the the efficiencies that we had on our offense.

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Speaker 4: I think that this year, revamped with Mike McCarthy as

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Speaker 4: a play caller, I think we see ceedee Lamb. He

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Speaker 4: took off last year, but I think he has sent

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Speaker 4: to that, like what you said, crowning himself, you know,

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Speaker 4: one of the top guys in the league.

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Speaker 6: By the way the NFL owners meanings to go and

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Speaker 6: It'll get getting some love better talking to us guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he got some guys. He got some guys right, yes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And once again they should be looked at as

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Speaker 6: the strength of this football team. And if Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 6: becomes a play caller, we think then the offense should

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Speaker 6: be able to complement this defense even more. Or let's

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Speaker 6: now NFL Network there interviewing our guy, Joe Witt, Junior's

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Speaker 6: Cowboys secondary pass gain coordinator here, long time coach with

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Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy. Is this the best secondary talking corners of

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Speaker 6: safetyes combined that we've seen here in I don't know,

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Speaker 6: almost a decade coming into this year, potentially.

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Speaker 4: More than that, because I was here. I got here

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Speaker 4: guys like that. Like I remember we drafted draft him on.

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Speaker 4: We had the car and the expectation was what these

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Speaker 4: guys that have already done. But Stephan Gilmore has been

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Speaker 4: a top guy in the league for the last seven

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Speaker 4: six seven years.

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Speaker 3: And then you got Trayvon Diggs who lay at the.

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Speaker 4: League and interceptions a year prior to this one, and

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Speaker 4: then now he stepped up his game. He didn't have

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Speaker 4: as many interceptions, but as far as his coveraging technique

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Speaker 4: he got I thought he got a lot better. So

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Speaker 4: if you say, all right, now you got steph fu

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Speaker 4: Gilmore and you got Trayvon Diggs ascending him and becoming

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Speaker 4: a better player. Yeah, you definitely got to in the league.

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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, you got three great safeties.

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Speaker 4: You just paid one and then you got hooker and

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Speaker 4: you got cursed as the leader of the secondary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, you should be feeling really good about your secondary

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Speaker 4: room right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel so good about.

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Speaker 4: The addition of Stephan Gilmour, and based off of everything

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Speaker 4: that you said of him being the man all these

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Speaker 4: years in the league, but his ability to play man

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Speaker 4: set you up being zoned. You know, it's just overall

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Speaker 4: football like you, I think just really reeks of what

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Speaker 4: we've needed. They've needed a guy like him for a

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Speaker 4: very long time. They've tried to depend on Anthony Brown

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Speaker 4: to be that, and we've seen several games which just

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Speaker 4: Anthony Brown did not live up to the billing of

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Speaker 4: the contract or any of that. The safety is also

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Speaker 4: really what gives me the most confidence when you sign

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Speaker 4: a guy like Donovan Wilson for over the last couple

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Speaker 4: of years, seemed like he was on the outs and

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Speaker 4: then dan Quinn comes in and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 4: he has a completely resurgence renewing of his career. And

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Speaker 4: I think him and his ability with Jerran Curse as

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Speaker 4: just enforced us back there against the run game, but

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Speaker 4: also in passing when you have Malik Hooker that you

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Speaker 4: can also bring in in those sub packages. I mean,

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Speaker 4: believe it or not, I mean a lot of teams

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Speaker 4: go you know five, you know six, You don't have

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Speaker 4: as many as you possibly can. It's because of this

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Speaker 4: passing league that we have. But Stephan Gilmore, Trayvon Diggs

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Speaker 4: to me on paper, looked like one of the tops

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Speaker 4: in the NFC East. And that's knowing what we have

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Speaker 4: over in Philly and everywhere else. I think they the best.

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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, who let the team and

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Speaker 4: interceptions last season that I forgot to mention?

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Speaker 3: Was it Darron Bland. Don't forget. Don't forget the rookie

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Speaker 3: who came in and showed.

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Speaker 4: That he can take the ball away and make a

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Speaker 4: huge impact on the defense. So now you got Stepun

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Speaker 4: Stephunk Gilmore, you got Trayvon Dings, you got Dron blaand

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Speaker 4: you got Malik Hooking. You got j Ron Curse, like

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Speaker 4: you're just looking at this, you say, you know what

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Speaker 4: we should We should be okay no matter what happens.

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Speaker 4: You got an injury that you got a little depth

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Speaker 4: at the cornerback position, Well yeah you should.

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Speaker 3: You should be okay.

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Speaker 4: And and and the other question is going to be

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Speaker 4: is Jordan lewis gonna be what's gonna be his timeline

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Speaker 4: on returning as well? That's that's important.

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Speaker 2: I forgot forgot me, yeah, Jay Lou.

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Speaker 6: And what's going to make this secondary even better? Potentially

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Speaker 6: Mozzie Smith m h. And I think that fans who

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Speaker 6: And this is a shame because I saw that rookie

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Speaker 6: Vaughan got he got to go out and be a

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Speaker 6: part of the rookie trading Yeah yeah, and Shoemaker yeah,

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Speaker 6: school schoon and and and Deuce first round pick, I

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Speaker 6: mean rare is it? The Dallas Cowboys first round draft

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Speaker 6: pick is not in that shoot?

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Speaker 3: It is rare.

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Speaker 2: And Mozzie was.

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Speaker 6: Not there, and I hated for him because what he

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Speaker 6: does is not something you can write down statistically.

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Speaker 2: It's what other people are able to do.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's almost like being an offensive lineman, having

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Speaker 6: that kind of position he has in the line, but

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Speaker 6: his ability to help stop the run and force teams

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Speaker 6: eventually into third and seven or third and eight. That's

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Speaker 6: gonna make those guys back there better because they know

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Speaker 2: They're gonna know what to do.

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Speaker 6: So I really think that a guy like Mazie Smith

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Speaker 6: fans who may not be up on what he does,

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Speaker 6: he's going to help you. And that's how he gets

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Speaker 6: helped us defensively. Man, they're gonna be They're gonna be

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Speaker 6: put some good situations.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: He's a first round defensive tackle pick, all right, And

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Speaker 4: with this being a passing league and how things have changed,

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Speaker 4: and you have to look at guys like Vitave and

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Speaker 4: hard Grave and you say, you know, what, can you

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Speaker 4: make an impact from that position? Absolutely, he may have

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Speaker 4: not had that type of gameplay when he was in

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Speaker 4: college because you're in college, you're not around a guy

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Speaker 4: like Dan Quinn, right, so you start adding tools to

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Speaker 4: the Masi Smith that you washed and you thought that

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Speaker 4: able to play. Oh man, dan Quinn got his hands

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Speaker 4: This is how you read this. And all of a

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Speaker 6: I just think those guys are so important. And I

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00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 6: think Bill parcelsh and he had Leonard Marshall up foot hurt.

877
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 6: You know, you guys like that help other players, and

878
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 6: that's where to me that secondary they get more help

879
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 6: because now you just can't run up the good on

880
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 6: the Cowboys and now it's second and second and two.

881
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: But the other thing new is is the fact that

882
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 4: you have players like that that they're not stat sheet guys,

883
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: if they're not going to do anything that you notice that,

884
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 4: Oh my.

885
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 3: God, he had this many tackles for lost.

886
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: What he's going to do is gobble love blocks and

887
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: needs going to make life a lot easier for Michael

888
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 4: Parson's tank, Lawrence and other players.

889
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. That is what this defense

890
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: has needed.

891
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 4: When we saw in those games where the running game

892
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: got going against Green Bay, when you know other teams

893
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 4: capitalized on the running game, it was because we were

894
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: not stopping the run. And even when they take advantage

895
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: in the passing game, we're not pushing the pocket. We're

896
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: not making the quarterback uncomfortable back that even with Micah

897
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: on the field. So that's where I think when you

898
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: have a player like Mazie that look mans as dimensional

899
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: as his game is, I think he's going to add

900
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: to your secondary, to your point to make them that

901
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 4: much better because now you're able to present so much

902
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: more pressure.

903
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 6: Warren Sap always said this, the back don't work without.

904
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 3: The front, and he had a good good front. Boy cool. Yeah.

905
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 6: And I was watching a clip from Jack Lambert and

906
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 6: they were talking about the seventy six Pittsburgh Steelers that

907
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 6: didn't win the Super Bowl but lost in the AFC

908
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 6: Championship game without an effective Rocky Blyer Franko Harris, but

909
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 6: up front they were so good that Jack Lambert and

910
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 6: Jack ham had Hall of Fame careers. Off the dudes

911
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 6: up front and in the back you got Mail Blood.

912
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 6: I mean, their secondary was just like either they were

913
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: lighting you up, hitting you because you touched, they cracked

914
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 6: back on you, or they were sting intercepting the ball.

915
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 6: But everything started up front. And that's that same thing

916
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 6: when Warren Sapt talked about Tampa. Hey, the back don't

917
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 6: work without the front, and that's the same thing here.

918
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: The back.

919
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 6: Here we see what the back in the Cowboys potentially

920
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: can be. It can be pretty good, it'll be really

921
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 6: good you get that front up there. That's where Diggs

922
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 6: might be able to lead the league in interceptions, or

923
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 6: even Gilmour can return to that defensive player of the

924
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 6: year for him there. I'll tell you, if I was

925
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 6: one of these defensive guys, I'd be bringing in lunch.

926
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 6: I'd be bringing donuts for these dudes up front here,

927
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 6: because hey, guys, you do your thing, thank you.

928
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: Rather than in the first round, I'm telling you, I

929
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: believe that they see more in him than just being

930
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: a guy who could take up blocks. I think they

931
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: see some potential in him where he can be a

932
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 4: force in the passing game, not just pushing the pocket,

933
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: but teaching them some moves to make him be a

934
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: guy who they say, hey, man, we need to make

935
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 4: sure we block that guard. He's gonna wreck our game

936
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 4: for you to go pick a defensive tackle in the

937
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: first round. Dan Quinn type of guy who specializes in

938
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 4: defensive defensive line.

939
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: I think he sees more than just.

940
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: A guy who he's gonna teach how to, hey man,

941
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 4: hit hit an extend and then stay in your gap.

942
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: I think I see more than that. I said it

943
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: from the beginning. I wanted who dan Quinn want me,

944
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: and if it was Mozzie Smith, then I'm in agreeance

945
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: to that. My whole thing, and what I've been thinking

946
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 4: about is who else is going to benefit up front

947
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: from Mozzie's presence. You know, I think it's gonna be

948
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: hard for him just to be a one trick pony

949
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: and just to be a guy. Now I'm gobbling up

950
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 4: two and three guys at a time to allow these

951
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: other guys to run. They're gonna put a package in

952
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: that's gonna allow him to get to the quarterback. But

953
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: guys like Daurrence Armstrong has got to be licking his chops.

954
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: A guy that had a great season last season but

955
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: will benefit as well. You talk about those said Diggi

956
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 4: Zua being a guy that's gonna benefit. There's so many

957
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: guys that can benefit by having a true one tech

958
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: that can gobble the way that Mozzie Smith is put

959
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: intentially gonna do.

960
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 6: What if you took and we've seen Dan Quinn, do

961
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 6: you take us out put tank on the D line

962
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 6: inside a D tackle spot with Mazie. Then you got

963
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 6: Parsons on one spot, the Dorans or Shrung.

964
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be interesting.

965
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 6: They can come up with some schemes here so that

966
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 6: that portion is pretty good. But man, I hate once

967
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 6: again I go back there. I hate the fact that

968
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 6: a guy like Majie Smith did not get the opportunity

969
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 6: to go out here to get it, get it, get

970
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 6: his picture, man, the trading card picture with.

971
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: You when you saw us, like, hey, what's going on?

972
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 3: They went with the flash man.

973
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: And that it was him. You hate that part.

974
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: Like, guys, he may not be quote unquote sexy to

975
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 6: you right now, but start winning now.

976
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Vince Woolford looked real sexy.

977
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: For the time right, noverybody, absolutely.

978
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 6: You know those guys matter. Booker McFarland's matter. I mean

979
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 6: you get those big boys up there, man, they matter,

980
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 6: Sam Adams, Tony Sarah Goose with the Ravens. Man, these dudes, Matt.

981
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 6: If we're talking about football, this is what it should be.

982
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 6: And and you know, ain't nothing wrong with the kids saying,

983
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 6: hey man, this this guy, this guy's defensive tackle taking off.

984
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: He man up here taking on folks. I mean, I

985
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: hate that for.

986
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: The other we're talking about this before we get out

987
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: of here.

988
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: Hey man, hey, your guy, Okay, he making the man

989
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 4: with everybody jersey. Don't they call the man say it

990
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: was a sament you have on the Philly jersey? Listen, man,

991
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: can I say this, I won't say this about that.

992
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: When you Michael, when you ball like Michael Parsons, you

993
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: can wear whatever jersey you want. It's not about wearing No,

994
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 4: when you bought, when you Michael Carson can wear whatever

995
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: you want to when the player on the opposing team,

996
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: all the way you want. You just had all Michael

997
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: Park whatever you like. Drake the Bazooka could wear whatever

998
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: he want. No, it wasn't about him wearing the jersey.

999
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 4: Bro he got on the Philly jersey from the Philly

1000
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: player and then the Celtics players like hold on, bro, did.

1001
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: You just have.

1002
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: Courtsied over there with that?

1003
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1004
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: So nothing about you. Yeah where whatever Jersey go.

1005
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: To South Beat showing Jimmy Butler Jersey.

1006
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: He even said himself, he said many.

1007
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: Native time out, time out, Michael time out. Michael might

1008
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: be in Miami and heat Jersey.

1009
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: He knows.

1010
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: He said, next year, hes gonna pick one team and

1011
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: stick with him because he understands. So we know we

1012
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: ain't saying nothing that you know, ain't nobody else saying.

1013
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 4: He came out and saying this ain't now you well

1014
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 4: whatever you want to look like Drake, but get you

1015
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: a team, bro, get your team his team.

1016
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: I thought the team was going to state. You don't

1017
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: know what his team.

1018
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 8: Don't wear?

1019
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: Just where they all?

1020
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: Right? Man, they get off hey, man, get off the briefcase. Man. Yeah,

1021
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: you know he took it to strive. He knows.

1022
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: Is he gonna show up in South Beach because they

1023
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: went to the final.

1024
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna show up, show up in South Beach,

1025
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: Michael with your heat jersey onn O t by the stuff.

1026
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 3: That's right, that's a by the s. He focused.

1027
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 6: He focused where Jaal Murray.

1028
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: He's gonna start getting that Uh who got put out

1029
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: the l a charges of arena?

1030
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: Who is that they gonna be course, tickets are no

1031
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: longer available. Dog, he couldn't get that prespect.

1032
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no sideline passes. He was up in the stands.

1033
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: Rest in peace. Jim Brown.

1034
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, great, the greatest football player of all

1035
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 4: time period.

1036
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't tell me Tom right now, it's Jim Brown,

1037
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 6: and it's Jim Brown. One of the three most intimidating

1038
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 6: people I've ever been able to interview in sports.

1039
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: Jim Brown. Great guy.

1040
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 6: Got to meet him in Cleveland back when he used

1041
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 6: to let the media eat with the team. He walked

1042
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: in there. Belichick was a head coach time, and then

1043
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 6: Art Modell was in. You thought you would have thought

1044
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 6: Jim on the team. You'd have thought because the way.

1045
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: They respected him. Reviewed.

1046
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 6: I was like, I'd never seen pro players treat another

1047
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 6: dude like that, Like it was royalty up in this moment.

1048
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

1049
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: That kind of guy. Man, He was that kind of guy.

1050
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: And then when he was in La Man he was

1051
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: always kind of me.

1052
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: Man.

1053
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 6: Just Jim Brown, Greys football player of all time period period.

1054
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 6: Danny McCrae, Heck Maharrison, I'm a new discuss for Chris Bean,

1055
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 6: Jazz Big Will.

1056
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: Everybody's a part of this.

1057
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 6: We appreciate you checking out the players note pot to

1058
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,359
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1059
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,880
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1060
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,879
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