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Speaker 3: The Cowboys currently on the week before the Week one
Speaker 3: matchup is this Week zero in the NFL whatever it is, zero,
Speaker 3: it's a ramp up week goo.
Speaker 6: College football is back. So week zero, yeah, week zero,
Speaker 6: Week zero yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's week zero for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: They' getting ready to take on the Philadelphia Eagles in
Speaker 3: Week one. We've got Patrick noc Walkers, Josh Rodriguez, Tommy Yarsh,
Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman.
Speaker 4: So glad you're with us Loaded show today. Hello, uh,
Speaker 4: I can't wait to have uh this.
Speaker 3: We're gonna play a little game here coming up in
Speaker 3: the second and the third segments where it's rating each position.
Speaker 3: Group Like it's Madden, so we're gonna we're gonna play
Speaker 3: rate the rate this position. And I feel like there
Speaker 3: needs to be like some theme music in the background.
Speaker 4: Let's play right this position.
Speaker 3: I like it d or whatever that was Mario, but
Speaker 3: the on accident tell where my mind is copyright, We're
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be underneath it on the YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: Now that tune is gonna be stuck in my head
Speaker 2: for the risk.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Well maybe that's the official tune of name or
Speaker 3: rate that position.
Speaker 4: Uh, but yeah, we've got a lot to break down.
Speaker 3: In terms of roster cuts as well. The roster cut
Speaker 3: is done with Patrick.
Speaker 4: Did to have you back today?
Speaker 3: It's like it's been a minute, not really a couple
Speaker 3: episodes have you been on since we've been back.
Speaker 7: At Yeah, yeah, I think just the one.
Speaker 2: It was just the one, just the one just to
Speaker 2: see that's wild though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been back from Oxnard for a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just the one and then yesterday's But so, I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, I was out of state celebrating my princess's
Speaker 6: thirteenth birthday.
Speaker 7: Amazing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like it so, but good thing is
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously she had a fantastic time. She got
Speaker 6: all the gifts she wanted, and then some she got
Speaker 6: to do everything she wanted, and then some you know,
Speaker 6: kind of bittersweet because, like I said, you love to
Speaker 6: be able to be in position to you know, bless
Speaker 6: and spoil your your kids the way that that you
Speaker 6: know I've been able to do. But this is my
Speaker 6: baby girl, and her turn at thirteen really really grinds
Speaker 6: my years. So I love seeing her grow up into
Speaker 6: such a beautiful, respectful and just ambitious and intelligent young lady.
Speaker 2: But I missed my baby.
Speaker 4: I felt the same way when Tommy turned thirteen. Thanks
Speaker 4: last month.
Speaker 2: Thank you Dad.
Speaker 8: Yeah, growing up?
Speaker 2: That's Goodna Lie, he cooked, that's good.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Dad. I wish I could turn the clock
Speaker 8: back all those days.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 8: Oh brother, guy sticks, thank you Grandpa.
Speaker 4: That's grandpa being in Grandpa.
Speaker 2: We are so bad.
Speaker 3: Oh, glad you're with us here on this one.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I hate to bring the mood down. There were some cuts.
Speaker 3: There were there were some cuts. I'm gonna read through
Speaker 3: the list and then we're gonna kind of hit it.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: When it comes to the cut list for the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: remember there's a different between released and waved.
Speaker 4: Yes, keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: Released means you can sign with any NFL program all
Speaker 3: the way through, and you can do so immediately, whereas
Speaker 3: waved you have to pass through waivers, which then happens today,
Speaker 3: and then you can be added to the practice squads
Speaker 3: and they can fill in from those release guys too.
Speaker 4: So just because they're released doesn't mean they're gone entirely.
Speaker 3: The WAVED guys are guys that Dallas is kind of
Speaker 3: hoping to hold on to. Right, all right, let's start
Speaker 3: with the released. These are guys that were straight up released.
Speaker 3: Hakeema Dnegy, Ernest Brown, Sadiq Charles, Juan Christian, C. J. Goodwin,
Speaker 3: Will Greer, Keemon Hall, Darius Harris, Buddy Johnson, Israel Bukuamu,
Speaker 3: Michael Ojamudia, and Robert Rochelle.
Speaker 4: Those were the released members of the Cowboys. The Waved
Speaker 4: members Tommy A.
Speaker 3: King, Besote, Justin Barron, Jalen Brooks, Elijah Clark, Jalen Cropper,
Speaker 3: Malik Davis, Rivaldo Fairweather.
Speaker 4: Which I think was kind of an interesting one.
Speaker 3: Princeton Fant, same thing, Tray shon On Holden, who I
Speaker 3: know a lot of people wanted to hold on to
Speaker 3: Mike Smith, Deuce Vaughan, Tyrus whet.
Speaker 6: If you did that on purpose, was a holding a
Speaker 6: lot of people? Absolutely, Okay, I just want to I
Speaker 6: wanted to make sure that people can.
Speaker 8: Tell the inflection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to make sure the heat. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Kyle dropped.
Speaker 4: Thank you such a host. I know the.
Speaker 3: Reserved injured DFR two players are able to go on
Speaker 3: that list in this year was Jonathan Mingo and Peyton Turner.
Speaker 3: Then reserve slash Pup Josh Butler, Demarve and overshown reserve
Speaker 3: nfi is savone rebel. Of course the rookie out of
Speaker 3: East Carolina. One guy was traded. Awesome Richards got traded
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints did uh flipped a sixth and then seventh.
Speaker 3: It's not like a major deal. You get a sixth,
Speaker 3: you give a seventh, you flip rounds and then then
Speaker 3: you get you send them awesome Richards n twenty eight.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, three years off the road.
Speaker 3: We're gonna look back at twenty twenty eight and we're
Speaker 3: getting ready for the draft show in like March of
Speaker 3: that year and be like.
Speaker 4: Why don't we have a round picking in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was the awesome Richard Richard trade. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: so yeah, a little bit different. Sad to see him go,
Speaker 3: but I see why he didn't.
Speaker 4: Play very well this offseason.
Speaker 9: He did not, and it's nice to see us get
Speaker 9: some value out of him. Sure, I mean yeah, I mean,
Speaker 9: we haven't had a lot of movement in terms of
Speaker 9: trade since before training camp, so it's nice to see this.
Speaker 4: Looks like the snail movement, Like it's movement.
Speaker 7: Don't get here, it's a movement.
Speaker 4: But it's just like a little interesting.
Speaker 9: But how can you come out of yesterday not liking
Speaker 9: what the Cowboys did? I mean, I understand there are
Speaker 9: a lot of names on that list that you just
Speaker 9: mentioned that are like, you know, a few pen throws
Speaker 9: in there, but I think overall the guys that you keep,
Speaker 9: I think it's very indicative of what Brian Schottenheimer's been
Speaker 9: preaching this whole time, is, you know, competing every day,
Speaker 9: and the guys that have competed the most are on
Speaker 9: your fifty three.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll add this.
Speaker 6: As far as the awesome Richard's trade is concerned, I mean,
Speaker 6: so often Cowboys fans or like, well, if you knew
Speaker 6: you were going to release or wave this guy, why
Speaker 6: not try to get some type of vale you for him. Well,
Speaker 6: the Cowboys were able to do that with usin Richards,
Speaker 6: so you know there's progress in that in that aspect.
Speaker 6: And it's like Josh says, when you look at this
Speaker 6: fifty three man the initial fifty three man roster keyword
Speaker 6: being initial, because I know a lot of people were
Speaker 6: saying it's the final.
Speaker 2: No, it is not the final.
Speaker 6: There's still a lot of dust to be settled, a
Speaker 6: lot of smoke that needs to clear. You're gonna have
Speaker 6: guys like c J. Goodwin, he tells me he's coming back,
Speaker 6: which is an annual tradition, releasing c. J. Goodwin and
Speaker 6: then seeing him come back. So they still have some
Speaker 6: roster moves to make over the next twenty four to
Speaker 6: forty eight even seventy two hours practice squad needs to
Speaker 6: be built. But I like where things are, especially being
Speaker 6: that they kept Josh's guy perryon on board because he
Speaker 6: was about to have a car grats, dude, I am
Speaker 6: so late. Oh if you guys could have seen the
Speaker 6: text thread when I dropped that news in that perryon
Speaker 6: Winfrey might be out.
Speaker 2: Josh's like no, and I was like, he's still here.
Speaker 3: He was like yeah, from a news cycle standpoint, he was.
Speaker 4: He was told totally out.
Speaker 3: Remember even Brian Schottenheimer talked about it yesterday Tommy that
Speaker 3: he walked in and he anticipated being cut because the
Speaker 3: news was.
Speaker 9: Al saw how I was celebrating. That's making it the
Speaker 9: fifty three, That's that's how we do.
Speaker 8: So I thought this was Paul Wall for a minute.
Speaker 7: Josh Wall two point, Yeah, that is that is Josh Wall.
Speaker 2: He put on some glasses the Mexican ot.
Speaker 3: We talked about it yesterday though it was going to
Speaker 3: be Ernest Brown or perry On Winfrey and it ended
Speaker 3: up being that.
Speaker 4: And I think Brown is a guy that they hope
Speaker 4: to get back to the practice squad.
Speaker 3: But perry On Winfrey making this team is significant because
Speaker 3: it's another USFL slash UFL pickup that you've been able
Speaker 3: to add to this roster and have some impact with.
Speaker 9: And a guy you genuinely did not want to lose
Speaker 9: for whatever reason, and and you understand, you know.
Speaker 2: That it's not for whatever reason, it's for good reason.
Speaker 9: No, you didn't want to lose him for you know,
Speaker 9: keeping guys that you've invested more time in that have
Speaker 9: not performed as well as Perryon Winfree that I think
Speaker 9: would have been a mistake, and they did not make
Speaker 9: that mistake.
Speaker 7: And even the press conference.
Speaker 9: Alluded to that too, when Brian Shottenhamer was talking about
Speaker 9: the process of you know, going through all of these
Speaker 9: cuts and then telling Perry On Winfrey to his face,
Speaker 9: you know, it's like, this is a tough day, but
Speaker 9: I'm so glad I'm here to tell you that you've
Speaker 9: made the squad and getting emotional about it. Perryon Winfre
Speaker 9: getting emotional about it, he posted on Twitter, celebrating with
Speaker 9: his family, Like you love to see that from a
Speaker 9: guy that he said had the game ripped away from
Speaker 9: him to come back and make this squad after an
Speaker 9: impressive preseason, impressive camp.
Speaker 7: You genuinely love to see it.
Speaker 8: And I think with the defensive tackle group, I think
Speaker 8: that last spot came down to, Okay, perry On Winfree
Speaker 8: and Ernest Brown was the guy that this staff really likes,
Speaker 8: and they're just kind of weighing the two of those guys,
Speaker 8: and I think it maybe came down to, hey, who's
Speaker 8: maybe the guy that we can get onto the practice squad,
Speaker 8: who's the guy that doesn't have as much noise around
Speaker 8: him going to go not get claimed on waivers and
Speaker 8: we can just kind of look at him here the
Speaker 8: following day. So I would expect Ernest Brown to be
Speaker 8: one of those guys. They really like him if he
Speaker 8: clears waivers and so I think he's back. But no,
Speaker 8: I mean, Josh is right, Perryon Winfrey was probably their
Speaker 8: best defensive tackle in the preseason.
Speaker 4: Is that too rash to say?
Speaker 7: Not at all.
Speaker 8: I think in the game setting, I think he was
Speaker 8: the best one. So you know, when you've got to
Speaker 8: and we've talked at depth and I've talked especially about how, hey,
Speaker 8: this defensive tackle room is very concerning because there's not
Speaker 8: a lot of depth there. I'm not necessarily saying that
Speaker 8: Perryon Winfrey is like, oh, we're good. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 8: But Glad said he has been a He has been
Speaker 8: a pleasant surprise in terms of when he came in,
Speaker 8: you you just didn't really know, and then you see
Speaker 8: him on the practice field and it's like, Okay, this
Speaker 8: guy's this guy's pretty big, like you know, this might
Speaker 8: be something here, and he starts playing well, But this
Speaker 8: is I'm not saying this is the end all, be
Speaker 8: all or the problem fixer ever, Right, Perryon Winfrey has
Speaker 8: the chance to be a good player, but he's not.
Speaker 4: He's not He's not gonna start.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, this is going to be a guy that
Speaker 8: you hope when he gets snaps, makes the most out
Speaker 8: of him and comes through for you. And still, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm still concerned about the defensive tackle room. But congratulations
Speaker 8: to him that that video where he was holding his uh.
Speaker 2: His kid.
Speaker 8: He was like, We're gonna beat the Eagles and then
Speaker 8: we're giants. That was that was cool to see. It's
Speaker 8: a it's a tough day for a lot of guys
Speaker 8: around the NFL, and rightfully so. But there are some
Speaker 8: feel good stories there too, and and you know, stuff
Speaker 8: like that is always nice to.
Speaker 2: See for me.
Speaker 6: I just wasn't as as close in the Perion win
Speaker 6: for you versus Ernest Brown discussion as I know the
Speaker 6: Cowboys coaching staff was because we were very great when
Speaker 6: we sat here and we did the mock draft. Not
Speaker 6: mock draft, I'm sorry, the mock fifty three. Right, You
Speaker 6: got me thinking draft because Richardson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now it's coming up.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be rid.
Speaker 7: Now tune in.
Speaker 2: Did my daughter be sixteen? Stopping stuppy?
Speaker 8: Well, Tommy, Oh damn man, I'm bang, it's bang, it's
Speaker 8: coming up, It's coming up.
Speaker 4: I could almost drive a car that was so good.
Speaker 8: Kyle has gonna stop dropping me off at work.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 4: Bring your backpack to that, I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I had heard free, I had perry On
Speaker 6: making my fifty three, and I remember Kyle uh asking
Speaker 6: for the counterpoint as far as why not Ernest Brown?
Speaker 6: And I sat here, and I was very firm in
Speaker 6: the fact that I saw much more from perry On
Speaker 6: Winfrey than I saw from Ernest Brown. In the preseason,
Speaker 6: there were times where you know, perry On would come
Speaker 6: in and he would flash, and then Ernest Brown would
Speaker 6: come in and kind of get walked out of his
Speaker 6: spot on more than one occasion.
Speaker 2: Now that's not to say.
Speaker 6: That he can't develop if he is to return and
Speaker 6: on the practice squad or something like that, which, like
Speaker 6: you said, and I agree, the Cowboys are going to
Speaker 6: hope to try to get him back on the practice squad.
Speaker 6: But I cannot stress enough how glad I am to
Speaker 6: see that they have Perry On on this roster because
Speaker 6: again I'm with on this. I don't think the defensive
Speaker 6: tackle position is solved at nose tackle. I think you're
Speaker 6: perfectly fine with Osa and Solomon at three tack but
Speaker 6: at one teck. When you hear Shoddy being as definitive
Speaker 6: as he is in his commentary about Mazzie Smith saying
Speaker 6: we need more consistency. We don't care that you're a
Speaker 6: first round pick. We want the consistency that tells me
Speaker 6: that he is very aware of the fact that they
Speaker 6: need better play at one tech.
Speaker 8: We got to get ready for a scenario where they
Speaker 8: just don't don't have one.
Speaker 3: They don't have a one tech. No, do you have
Speaker 3: one other than Ja Toya on this roster? No, like
Speaker 3: a true absolute built to play the position one tech.
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so, And I don't think it's
Speaker 8: necessarily a You know, you always want a guy that
Speaker 8: can plug up the middle, right. Yeah, but if you
Speaker 8: think about what Matt Aberfluss's scheme looks like in the
Speaker 8: attack front and things like that, if you're going to attack,
Speaker 8: you don't think one tech and think attack very much.
Speaker 4: There are guys who can do it.
Speaker 8: Sure you can look around the league and say, all right,
Speaker 8: this guy's gonna get up the field and he can
Speaker 8: you know, make a play in the backfield or maybe
Speaker 8: even get to the quarterback. But I think you may
Speaker 8: have to look at a scenario just because of how
Speaker 8: the roster shakes up where they just don't really have
Speaker 8: a one tech or they don't use one a lot
Speaker 8: and they hope that.
Speaker 2: What's that was that Cjko.
Speaker 7: From the Race Ravens that just relave.
Speaker 6: Correct because and I'll confirm this because rumor has it
Speaker 6: he might qualify for the IPP, the International Pathway Program
Speaker 6: because he's born in Nigeria, so it would be.
Speaker 4: Number ninety one. They did release Denzel Dacks.
Speaker 6: Well now because they released Innzel Decks, and if they
Speaker 6: don't bring Dexon back, but they choose to, you know,
Speaker 6: bring in a Koye. If he still qualifies for the
Speaker 6: IPP exemption, then he would be the plus one on
Speaker 6: the sixteen man practice squad if they signed him to
Speaker 6: the practice squad, so that would be your seventeen man
Speaker 6: practice squad there and you'd get three elevations out of him.
Speaker 6: It will buy you time to figure out, you know,
Speaker 6: how much if you're going to allow Mazi the entirety
Speaker 6: of the year, whatever the case may be. So it's
Speaker 6: an angle to be played there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's an angle to be played. And you know,
Speaker 8: I've seen a Coyer pop up and right, I mean,
Speaker 8: I think you know the Cowboys of defensive tackle. Right now,
Speaker 8: options are better than they go ahead.
Speaker 9: Well just measurables for those that don't know. Just released
Speaker 9: by the Ravens. He's sixty six, three hundred and seventy
Speaker 9: pounds lorge that arguably.
Speaker 2: That's pretty large.
Speaker 7: Arguably in some circles. Sources say that's.
Speaker 6: A big D in some solar systems, big do not
Speaker 6: just circles. In some souls say I'm the biggest, the largest,
Speaker 6: shouts out a big X X.
Speaker 8: You know what, there's your strategy. Get big X the
Speaker 8: plug and put it and have him plug the right
Speaker 8: the nore l. I think it's interesting though, because you know,
Speaker 8: I think back to the preseason and sometimes where and
Speaker 8: this might have just been them preseason experimenting or something
Speaker 8: like that, but there would be a defensive front where
Speaker 8: there's no defensive tackles and four defensive ends and they're
Speaker 8: just getting after the passer. I wonder if that's something
Speaker 8: that we're actually going to see at Texas.
Speaker 4: They do it and it's.
Speaker 8: Called a NASCARSS package where they get they put four
Speaker 8: defensive ends on the field. Now they still have two
Speaker 8: defensive tackles out there more than likely. So essentially you're
Speaker 8: kind of playing you're kind of playing nickel, but for
Speaker 8: the defensive line, if that makes sense. So it's like
Speaker 8: an over position, right, Yeah, So if they do that,
Speaker 8: you know, what does that look like? If they get
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons back, that could be really successful. But if
Speaker 8: you run the ball against that, you're probably gonna pick
Speaker 8: up ten to fifteen.
Speaker 6: I think what's the trade off the trick? Yeah, the
Speaker 6: trade off is basically parting the ridge, right if you're.
Speaker 8: Playing Yeah, if you play a veteran quarterback, it's check check,
Speaker 8: You run a draw and it's and it's came over,
Speaker 8: So you don't you know, I think we just need
Speaker 8: to prepare for that reality where hey, does this team
Speaker 8: not have necessarily a true one tech that's going to
Speaker 8: plug up the middle of the defensive line.
Speaker 3: Consistency, Yeah, that's some of the question marks. And I
Speaker 3: you you mentioned the word playoff or excuse me, preseason
Speaker 3: what experiment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, cos.
Speaker 2: That's going to go crazy now.
Speaker 3: Preseason experiments and that I think those two things together
Speaker 3: when it comes to the defensive line are just that's
Speaker 3: just that's a hot button topic for anybody that listens
Speaker 3: about the Dallas Cowboys because they're done with experiments when
Speaker 3: it comes to defensive tackle. But that's just what it's
Speaker 3: going to continue to be until you find a solidified person.
Speaker 10: Coyer.
Speaker 3: I like the idea because it's a big body, he's experienced,
Speaker 3: he's played an NFL.
Speaker 2: What does it hurt?
Speaker 3: What is it hurt to try to try and kick
Speaker 3: the tires see what happens if he's available.
Speaker 4: Let's let's at least give it a look.
Speaker 3: Especially But again, just like Tommy said about Perry on Winfrey,
Speaker 3: is that the be all end all?
Speaker 4: We're done.
Speaker 3: It's a guy that just got released by the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna be okay with our defensive tackle room?
Speaker 3: Probably not. It's just another name.
Speaker 7: The reason he was waived in the first place.
Speaker 3: Correct, not to sound like Minckey Spagnola, but that's that's
Speaker 3: exactly what makes out there.
Speaker 4: Why is he available now?
Speaker 3: And so he is available now? Maybe the Cowboys kick
Speaker 3: the tires, maybe they don't. Before we move on to
Speaker 3: our next segment, what kind of roster Olympics, Patrick, can
Speaker 3: we expect out of that group? Because there's a couple
Speaker 3: of things that are going to happen.
Speaker 2: There are I mentioned it earlier. C J.
Speaker 6: Goodwin he told me after the final practice, not final practice,
Speaker 6: but the most recent practice this week. He said, hey, no, see,
Speaker 6: just so you know, procedural, as always, I plan to
Speaker 6: be back, So expect CJ. Good went back on the
Speaker 6: active roster, not the practice squad, but in that will
Speaker 6: be playing one.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: You're also likely going to see as early as today
Speaker 6: two players get moved to injured reserve.
Speaker 2: One will likely be.
Speaker 6: Phil Mafah and the other will be Kayln Carson. Those
Speaker 6: are the two expectations.
Speaker 7: Those are designated to return, Well.
Speaker 6: You don't have to. So the way it works is
Speaker 6: because I know some fans are going to say, well
Speaker 6: why did Jay? Why did they DT? Are Peyton Turner
Speaker 6: and Jonathan Mingo but not Kayln Carson's because you can
Speaker 6: only designate two to return prior to the roster cutdowns.
Speaker 6: You have to carry Phil MafA and Kayln Carson for
Speaker 6: at least one day on the active roster and then
Speaker 6: move them to IR unless you want to end their
Speaker 6: season so they cannot start this, you know, go to
Speaker 6: IR pre cut down. Otherwise they are not permitted to
Speaker 6: return because you've already dtr Peyton Turner and Jonathan Mingo.
Speaker 6: So expect to see Kayln Carson and Phil MafA go
Speaker 6: to injury reserve that will allow them to return as
Speaker 6: early as Week five, depending on how their injuries go.
Speaker 6: That's going to free up to roster spots. One is
Speaker 6: going to go to c. J. Goodwin. I hear rumors
Speaker 6: that the other might go to Hakema Dnergy. We'll see
Speaker 6: if that holds true.
Speaker 4: That's the veteran one of those guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if that holds true.
Speaker 6: But the Cowboys, Yeah, but the Cowboys are also in
Speaker 6: shoddy reference to yesterday. They are scouring the waiver wire
Speaker 6: today they are number twelve in.
Speaker 2: The waiver wire.
Speaker 7: Bordersiness there.
Speaker 6: They're open for business was his quote. His exact quote.
Speaker 6: They're going to put in several claims. They're going to
Speaker 6: see what happens. Now, keep in mind, anyone that's claimed
Speaker 6: successfully by the Cowboys has to go to the active rosters,
Speaker 6: so we may not see what the quote unquote final
Speaker 6: roster is. What I should say the week one depth trot, well,
Speaker 6: we may not know what the Week one depth Trot
Speaker 6: looks like, probably until later this week as far as
Speaker 6: the quasi finality of it. But they're gonna be the
Speaker 6: numbers purpose exactly. There're gonna be some gymnastics going on there.
Speaker 6: Absolutely good to keep an eye on.
Speaker 3: And you can keep up with all those moves on
Speaker 3: Dallas cowboys dot Com throughout the week.
Speaker 4: When we come back, we're gonna talk about each of
Speaker 4: these positions.
Speaker 3: We're gonna give a grade overall position grade like it's Madden.
Speaker 3: And then I need the YouTube comments to really ramp
Speaker 3: it up here over the next forty minutes or so,
Speaker 3: maybe less for Beamer, more like twenty five minutes. I
Speaker 3: need you to ramp it up because I need you
Speaker 3: guys to be the judges of these different grades. And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you how when we come back with
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Speaker 3: some scrutiny here over the verst.
Speaker 4: Of the show.
Speaker 8: Uh, texted my teacher to make sure that I you know,
Speaker 8: but I didn't miss my homework from last night.
Speaker 2: So where's your whole past?
Speaker 8: Well, I had to fill out if I had to
Speaker 8: finish filling out the sixth grade coloring book for art class.
Speaker 4: Oh good, I'm glad.
Speaker 7: Are you on lunch A or B? B?
Speaker 4: Okay, he's not cool enough, he's not.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, you're not cool enough to
Speaker 2: be on a lunch Uh.
Speaker 3: Jerjeremy wins our comment end of the day, and it's
Speaker 3: not even really close at the moment. Jeremy goes, Kyle
Speaker 3: has more facial hair or has more kids than Tommy
Speaker 3: has facial hair.
Speaker 4: That's really good. That's really good. Kyle has more kids
Speaker 4: than Tommy has facial hair. A good job, Jeremy.
Speaker 3: I am keeping score. By the way, for comments of
Speaker 3: the day, So this is going to go all the
Speaker 3: way through.
Speaker 4: Coming up the year needs to be a correct It'll
Speaker 4: be commentur of.
Speaker 7: The oh, coming of the Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm saving all of them. I'm saving them, all the
Speaker 3: ones that win. I'm documenting. I'm keeping it and we
Speaker 3: will be back after week seventeen or after the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Whenever this thing ends, we'll be right back there to
Speaker 3: hit it at the end of the year. I need
Speaker 3: the YouTube comments here in this segment though, because we're
Speaker 3: gonna do it. This is kind of a newer thing.
Speaker 3: I want to rank the rate each position group on
Speaker 3: this Cowboys roster, and I want each person to give
Speaker 3: their ranking and then and I want you guys on
Speaker 3: the YouTube comments to vote who you feel like is
Speaker 3: the closest based off of their ranking, and they may
Speaker 3: end up being the same, but just keep that in
Speaker 3: mind as you're voting.
Speaker 9: Questions for the rating system. Because I want to get
Speaker 9: this down. I want to have a key for everybody
Speaker 9: at home. You're saying Madden rating system, but Madden rating
Speaker 9: but players are rated you know one or yeah, once
Speaker 9: ninety nine, and but position groups or or yeah.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say position groups, but I guess.
Speaker 2: Because we're rating position groups, right, we are through rating
Speaker 2: position groups.
Speaker 7: Do you want that A through F one one nine?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so good, good question.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you each position group, will go
Speaker 3: and order quarterbacks, running backs, wide average, and I want
Speaker 3: you to tell me what you would rate this group
Speaker 3: if it was a group in Madden OK, if it
Speaker 3: was a one through ninety nine rating as a team
Speaker 3: group in Madden and then we'll talk about where that
Speaker 3: could relate. At the end of the podcast, we're going
Speaker 3: to start with the offense. In this segment, I want.
Speaker 4: To start with the quarterbacks. That's a pretty easy one.
Speaker 3: You've got two guys on that list right now, and
Speaker 3: that's Dak Prescot, that's Joe Milton. Of course, we'll see
Speaker 3: what happens in the open market. We'll see what happens
Speaker 3: on the free agency side of things. Tommy, I'll let
Speaker 3: you start Dak Prescott and Joe Milton.
Speaker 8: Go eighty four, eighty four, eighty four. For the quarterback room,
Speaker 8: I think you know Dak Prescott, he has shown you
Speaker 8: that he can be an elite quarterback in this league.
Speaker 8: And I feel like he is a good quarterback in
Speaker 8: this league. But you know, we don't know what he's
Speaker 8: going to be this year, year ten, coming off another
Speaker 8: major injury. He's been injured three out of the last
Speaker 8: five years, and so you just kind of don't know.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying Dak Prescott's gonna have a bad season.
Speaker 8: I think he's going to play very well and he's
Speaker 8: got you know, one of the best, if not the
Speaker 8: best surrounding cast of skill talent that he's had during
Speaker 8: his time in Dallas. But there's still a lot of
Speaker 8: uncertainty there, and then Joe Milton might be the textbook
Speaker 8: definition of uncertainty. Or maybe that's not even the right word.
Speaker 8: It might just be, you know, the guy still needs
Speaker 8: to play. He needs to play, he needs the reps,
Speaker 8: and I think you saw flashes of what he can
Speaker 8: be in that third and final preseason game. But you
Speaker 8: also have to put the reality goggles on and say, look,
Speaker 8: this was against the Falcons, you know, backups, third stringers,
Speaker 8: and I'm sure Joe Milton was playing with their Cowboys
Speaker 8: backups and third stringers. But it's nonetheless, it's a guy
Speaker 8: who needs to play.
Speaker 2: And needs experience.
Speaker 8: So we'll see what happens this year. But I think
Speaker 8: eighty four is a fair fair rating.
Speaker 3: What I like about that is that Dak Prescott's Madden
Speaker 3: rating is an eighty four exactly, Oh is it really?
Speaker 3: Which means that you just anticipate no Joe Milton all
Speaker 3: year long, which I'm.
Speaker 8: Cool with, sure with it. I think they they certainly hope,
Speaker 8: So that's the case.
Speaker 4: They hope that's the case.
Speaker 9: So it's a simple math equation. Man, it's it's science.
Speaker 9: Everybody knows the science.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows.
Speaker 7: I'm the science Biel. So eighty nine plus sixty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, science, there it is.
Speaker 7: Average is out about to seventy eight point five.
Speaker 4: Seventy eight point five.
Speaker 2: That's that's from it.
Speaker 6: I'm landing squarely on eighty And for me, it's obviously
Speaker 6: Dak carries. Dak has proven that he can be a
Speaker 6: lead horse in the NFL MVP conversation. He's proven that
Speaker 6: he can operate at an all pro level. He's proven
Speaker 6: that he can operate at a record setting level. But
Speaker 6: he is coming off of a major injury. He has
Speaker 6: had some availability issues. Cowboys need him to stay on
Speaker 6: the field the entirety of the season. If for whatever reason,
Speaker 6: he misses a game or two, I have no clue
Speaker 6: what I have in Joe Milton. I'm going to go
Speaker 6: ahead and give that young man his flowers for one
Speaker 6: hell of a bounce back game in the preseason finale.
Speaker 6: But that's one game versus the previous two games, which
Speaker 6: is he flunked both of those games. In my opinion,
Speaker 6: I don't know and to Tommy's point, as far as
Speaker 6: Joe Milton having this bounce back game against the backups
Speaker 6: to the backups, I don't know that if Joe Milton,
Speaker 6: and this is just objectively speaking, I don't know that
Speaker 6: if he's sent up against an NFC East rival because
Speaker 6: Dak is not available that particular week against their starters,
Speaker 6: that he can get that job done. I just don't know.
Speaker 6: So for me, it's funny that you say Deck's rating.
Speaker 2: Is eighty four.
Speaker 6: We'll bring it, bring the group down to an eighty,
Speaker 6: because I don't know what I have in Joe Milton
Speaker 6: if Dak misses.
Speaker 2: A game or two.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you have eighty or Patrick has eighty, Josh
Speaker 3: has seventy eight point five seventy eight, uh, and then
Speaker 3: Tommy has eighty four. Rate who and vote on who
Speaker 3: you feel like has the closest rating.
Speaker 4: To what you would have overall?
Speaker 7: What about you?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna skip because we need to be quick running
Speaker 3: backs running backs.
Speaker 4: I'll let Josh start on this one.
Speaker 7: That one's tough.
Speaker 9: Outside looking in remember five as objective as possible, I'm
Speaker 9: going with a seventy four, okay, running back situation.
Speaker 6: And where'd you get right, seventy seven, seventy five, five okay,
Speaker 6: seventy five.
Speaker 3: Because you had Sanders, Williams Blue and then MafA and
Speaker 3: lip Key did make the roster.
Speaker 2: MafA mafas about or expect.
Speaker 9: And as as of right now in this moment, you know,
Speaker 9: preseason not be in clear in this unproven guys, we
Speaker 9: don't know what this is going to look like right.
Speaker 3: Now, Tommy seventy Okay, so a little bit lower.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not I'm not as high as on this
Speaker 8: from six. I think I think you've I think you've
Speaker 8: got You've got veteran guys in there that, you know,
Speaker 8: the last couple of years haven't really done a lot
Speaker 8: to give you a ton of confidence. You've got young
Speaker 8: guys like jin Blue who can take the top off
Speaker 8: a defense and kind of hit that second gear. But overall,
Speaker 8: a lot of a lot of unprovenness and a lot
Speaker 8: of guys needing bounce backs and career resurgence, and you
Speaker 8: know that's just not something that you really you really
Speaker 8: want to bank on if you don't have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are some ratings in the chat currently
Speaker 3: that are even lower than that. I mean, we dim boys,
Speaker 3: says if Sanders gets more snaps than Blue does than
Speaker 3: sixty sixty five, I've seen pop up. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: not a whole lot of confidence. And in this why
Speaker 3: would there be I don't have any it would be.
Speaker 4: I think I would be closer to Tommy.
Speaker 3: I think I'd be like seventy eight, or E'd be
Speaker 3: sixty eight or seventy.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would.
Speaker 9: Be silly to be overly confident about the running back
Speaker 9: room right now. Yeah, because you saw how it was
Speaker 9: last year and you haven't seen these guys play with
Speaker 9: this offensive line to the I mean, practice is one thing,
Speaker 9: but we're talking about live reps here, and we just
Speaker 9: we don't have the evidence.
Speaker 4: Not a game, not a game, talking about practice O practice?
Speaker 4: All right? Moving on to wide receivers.
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, so seventy five for Patrick, seventy
Speaker 3: four for Josh, and seventy for Tommy Yarish wide receivers
Speaker 3: they kept, of course, Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens, Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 3: Cavante Turp and Ryan Flinoyd.
Speaker 4: Those guys are pretty solidified.
Speaker 5: Five.
Speaker 4: You feel pretty good about Patrick.
Speaker 2: I'll let you start ninety six.
Speaker 6: Woh, this is you feel Ceede Lamb George Pickens first
Speaker 6: and foremally you can stop right there because to me,
Speaker 6: you're talking like Ceedee Lamb. I would say, Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 6: is a ninety eight. Okay, Let's say Ceede Lamb is
Speaker 6: a ninety eight. Let's say George Pickens is a ninety
Speaker 6: five to me? Give or take right to me.
Speaker 4: Let's know what is on Madden. Give me to eighty
Speaker 4: three lamb.
Speaker 2: Stop it.
Speaker 6: But you know what, I'll split the I'll split, I'll
Speaker 6: split the difference. Let's say Cee Lamb is a ninety eight.
Speaker 6: Let's say George Pickens is a ninety Okay, Cee the Lamb,
Speaker 6: George Pickens. I love, love, love that they agreed with me.
Speaker 6: On Ryan Flinoy, I love that. I think that Ryan
Speaker 6: Flinoy has an extremely high ceiling h and I think
Speaker 6: that that will begin to show itself as early as
Speaker 6: this year. Cavante Turpin. You know you gotta have Cavante
Speaker 6: Turpin on on the roster. And if they can get
Speaker 6: Cavante Turpin more involved, not just in the running back position,
Speaker 6: but in targets down the field and quick slants, get
Speaker 6: him out in space as a wide receiver, he can
Speaker 6: do some damage. And Jalen Tobert, you know what you
Speaker 6: have in Jaylen Tobert. So that's pretty much that. So
Speaker 6: I'm going what I said, ninety six. Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 6: ninety six because it's top heavy Lamb, Pickins, Turpin, and
Speaker 6: I love the potential on Flinoy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm going ninety six.
Speaker 9: My average is eighty wow average. But I think it's
Speaker 9: the guys that you have under Kamanti Tturbin. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 9: for me, your top three guys are CD, George Pickens, Kamanti,
Speaker 9: Srpin and Cavante is not necessarily proven as a wide receiver.
Speaker 7: He's proven because of his speed.
Speaker 9: And his playmakeability, right, Jalen Tobert, I've been honest that
Speaker 9: I don't think that he's bringing enough to the offensive
Speaker 9: scheme currently. He obviously knows it very well, his great
Speaker 9: chemistry with Dak Prescott. He had scored the most touchdowns
Speaker 9: of any receiver last year, so you have to take
Speaker 9: that into account. But I just don't think that the
Speaker 9: depth is as great as we want it to be.
Speaker 9: And if you're considering, you know, God forbid something happens
Speaker 9: to either CD or George Piggins. I think you're kind
Speaker 9: of back to square one as far as not getting
Speaker 9: guys open, not having that same chemistry that you've been
Speaker 9: having all off season. Uh, it really hinges on your
Speaker 9: top two guys.
Speaker 7: Him we're top heavy.
Speaker 6: I think that's what flow steps in and you start
Speaker 6: to really see something and I hope so.
Speaker 7: And I think full has proven that. I thought Jalen
Speaker 7: Brooks proved it.
Speaker 4: To okay, But here we are with for now, for now,
Speaker 4: for now.
Speaker 8: Eighty nine, eighty nine eighty nine. I think you know,
Speaker 8: both of you guys made a good point. Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 8: George Pickens. That has a chance to be one of
Speaker 8: the best tandems in the NFL this year. After that,
Speaker 8: I don't know. Jim, like Jalen Tolbert, did not have
Speaker 8: a good camp and did not have a good preseason.
Speaker 8: I don't think, you know, I don't think it was
Speaker 8: great at all. Cavante Turpin, they want to get him
Speaker 8: the ball a lot more as a receiver, you don't
Speaker 8: really know if he's he's a guy you can count
Speaker 8: on as your third or even fourth option. And then
Speaker 8: Ryan Flinoy is you know, he had a really good camp.
Speaker 8: I thought he did really well. But this is a
Speaker 8: guy who made the team because of his ability as
Speaker 8: a gunner on special teams. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 8: that's important. But you know, can this guy go out
Speaker 8: and and play for you if you need him to?
Speaker 8: I think he could. He's not going to be your
Speaker 8: best receiver, of course, but overall, the you know, I
Speaker 8: think top heavy is the right word because those first
Speaker 8: two guys are going to put some fear into opposing defense. Absolutely,
Speaker 8: but after that it's you know, you aren't really sure.
Speaker 8: You aren't really sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you were ninety six eighty. This is the
Speaker 4: biggest discrepancy we've had so far.
Speaker 3: Ninety six eighties Josh crazy, Yeah, I think I'll you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give my opinion here because I want
Speaker 3: the chat to give theirs first. And then Tommy said
Speaker 3: in eighty nine. So Patrick ninety six, Josh eighty, Tommy
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Speaker 3: All right, going into tight end position, cowboys, keep three
Speaker 3: tight ends on the roster for now. I think this
Speaker 3: is probably the group, right, This is the group Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 3: Luke Schoomaker.
Speaker 4: I know they cut a couple guys that we liked
Speaker 4: Princeton fans.
Speaker 2: It's just the active roster group.
Speaker 4: Rivoldo Fairweather. They'll probably be big.
Speaker 7: Aldo.
Speaker 9: He needs to be our new rico, our new rico
Speaker 9: to play the music Beamer.
Speaker 7: He's got to pull it up. It's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna take Aimnute. All right, Tommy, your turn
Speaker 3: to start.
Speaker 8: It tight ends. I'll go with seventy six because I
Speaker 8: think that Jake Ferguson having Dak Prescott back is going
Speaker 8: to be big and I think, you know, you could
Speaker 8: see similar production to what you saw on twenty twenty
Speaker 8: three out of him. Outside of that, you know, I
Speaker 8: think Luke Schoonmaker was better last year. But at the
Speaker 8: same time, I think he was set up in a
Speaker 8: position to where he really had to be because you know,
Speaker 8: Ferguson was out for some of it and Dak Prescott's out,
Speaker 8: so you know, so there were some situations where I
Speaker 8: feel like he was just putting a good spot and
Speaker 8: he took advantage of the opportunity which is what you
Speaker 8: want to see. But I don't think he has still
Speaker 8: been what everyone hoped he would be, you know, which
Speaker 8: is kind of Do they feel confident enough to go
Speaker 8: twelve personnel with him out there? And I think they can.
Speaker 8: But I think I still like Brevin span Ford a lot. Man.
Speaker 4: I think this kid has.
Speaker 8: A lot of upside and I think he can really
Speaker 8: be one of the better tight ends in the room
Speaker 8: and pushed for that second spot. I think if you
Speaker 8: are going to go twelve, you put him in line
Speaker 8: and put Ferguson next to him and let him go
Speaker 8: be a receiving guy. Because span Ford's hands are still
Speaker 8: coming along. Took a step in the right direction before
Speaker 8: the injury, but overall, yeah, I think, you know, he's
Speaker 8: still a little hesitant, and you got to see what
Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson has and see how spa Ford reacts.
Speaker 4: What was your number again?
Speaker 8: Seventy six?
Speaker 2: Seventy six?
Speaker 8: All right, Patrick, No, seventy four, I'm sorry, seventy four.
Speaker 4: My bad.
Speaker 6: I'm with Melvin in the comments on this one. I'm
Speaker 6: slamming the hope em for Jake Ferguson improvement. I'm right
Speaker 6: there with you, Melvin, so I'm going to go with
Speaker 6: not going to go too high here overall, let's go
Speaker 6: with an eighty one. I'm going with eighty one. I
Speaker 6: believe that Jake Ferguson does have a bounce back year.
Speaker 6: I wonder what that looks like though, with George Pickens
Speaker 6: in the mix, because there's only so many targets to
Speaker 6: go around. If you want to be the quote unquote
Speaker 6: balanced team that Shoddy and Dak continue to say that
Speaker 6: they will be. That means you're going to hand off
Speaker 6: the ball a good number of times. So what does
Speaker 6: Jake's targets look like? So I do think he takes
Speaker 6: full advantage of those targets. I think he has a
Speaker 6: bounce back here. Luke Schoolmaker, he took some strides, and
Speaker 6: the absence of Jake last year because of Jake's injuries,
Speaker 6: the knee of sprain, the concussion, saw some strides from
Speaker 6: Luke Schoolmaker. Not prepared to say this is going to
Speaker 6: be a breakout year for Schoolmaker though, and Breven span
Speaker 6: Ford agree with Tommy high ceiling, very high ceiling on
Speaker 6: that young man. But still some development to be had
Speaker 6: with his hands. The size is there, the athleticism is there,
Speaker 6: the ability to block in line is there, but I
Speaker 6: need to see more from him as far as the
Speaker 6: receiving ability goes. I've seen him take steps last year
Speaker 6: in that capacity, but you know, when you combine that
Speaker 6: those needs for development with schoolmaker, I want to see
Speaker 6: him take some more strides as he did last year.
Speaker 6: Jake is obviously carrying the room, which is of no
Speaker 6: surprise to anyone, but I think he carries it to
Speaker 6: an eighty one.
Speaker 3: That is his rating on Matt Really, yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: he's an eighty one, and then I'll.
Speaker 4: Tell you the other two after Josh, you give your
Speaker 4: your number.
Speaker 9: My number collectively for the tight end position group is
Speaker 9: going to be and needs to write this down, got it?
Speaker 7: It is going to be seventy.
Speaker 3: Three seventy three point forty three three three three three
Speaker 3: three three three three three three thirty three, got it?
Speaker 7: And four four I'm just kidding. No, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 7: it's just a lot of threes.
Speaker 9: My my stance on this, I actually agree with Matten
Speaker 9: in that I think Jake Ferguson's rating is an eighty one.
Speaker 9: The more confidence that he gets with Dak, the chemistry
Speaker 9: that they already have obviously that seam throw, all of
Speaker 9: the things. I think he can get his high as
Speaker 9: an eighty four eighty one depending on how he starts
Speaker 9: rolling this season. The guy's under him, though, I just
Speaker 9: am not seeing enough there. I mean, Luke schoon Maker,
Speaker 9: we've talked about. Aw, he's at a nice camp, but
Speaker 9: you know, is he a guy that you can really
Speaker 9: lean on? And if Jake Ferguson, for whatever reason, is
Speaker 9: not in the mix, are you you know, is that
Speaker 9: an actual target for you? Is that a threat to
Speaker 9: opposing defenses?
Speaker 15: Ye?
Speaker 7: I'm I'm just not seeing it.
Speaker 9: I think what you saw from a Rovoldo Fairweather was impressive.
Speaker 9: I thought that his athletic ability is something that you
Speaker 9: don't necessarily have in the tight end room right now.
Speaker 9: It's surprising to me that you get that you would
Speaker 9: waive a guy with those traits, and you know, granted,
Speaker 9: hopefully he gets the practice squad, but I just don't
Speaker 9: know that there's enough there identity wise, outside of Jake
Speaker 9: Ferguson to really, you know, get you a passing grade.
Speaker 7: I mean, seventy three. Is you know, I don't know
Speaker 7: what we're doing here.
Speaker 4: They couldn't give you both of your guys.
Speaker 3: They gave me Perry On winfree.
Speaker 4: They didn't. They couldn't give you Rivaldo Fairweather too. At
Speaker 4: least they got you want your guys.
Speaker 9: But understandable because of what they're asking Schoonmaker to do
Speaker 9: and what they're asking Brevin svan Ford to do. I
Speaker 9: completely understand that that mentality. But also it's like when
Speaker 9: you have someone with the athletic ability of a Fairweather
Speaker 9: or anybody else that they keeps colleg Tuble. I mean,
Speaker 9: I think you saw some good things from them. It's
Speaker 9: just a change of pacing you're not seeing.
Speaker 6: I agree, But I also agree with Kyle because to
Speaker 6: carry four tight ends to get Fairweather on you do
Speaker 6: you lose Verry?
Speaker 4: When you do, you lose Hunter Lipkey?
Speaker 2: Right? Do you lose kind of you lose James Houston? Right.
Speaker 6: So it's not a conversation I'm willing to have. But
Speaker 6: you're right though. So hopefully fair Weather is back on
Speaker 6: the practice.
Speaker 4: Question, I really hope.
Speaker 3: So the ratings for Matten by the way eighty one,
Speaker 3: seventy one sixty four and Ferguson Scoonmaker than Brevin spam Ford.
Speaker 4: Uh So the numbers were Tommy.
Speaker 3: Seventy four, Patrick eighty one, and then Joshua seventy.
Speaker 4: Three point three three three three three three three three three.
Speaker 3: Uh Gi, give us your vote on who is closest
Speaker 3: to your thought process when it comes to the tight
Speaker 3: end room. Moving to offensive line. Last one for today.
Speaker 3: This one's gonna be an interesting one because you got
Speaker 3: to kind of got to rate it off of your
Speaker 3: starting offensive line, but also the depth that you've got
Speaker 3: there too, and so it's not like a true average
Speaker 3: because you anticipate those guys up front playing for the
Speaker 3: majority of the snaps.
Speaker 4: Josh I'll let you start, oh man.
Speaker 9: So I'm just gonna have to go with my gut here.
Speaker 9: I didn't do the math on these guys at this
Speaker 9: point right now. I think there's a lot of unproven
Speaker 9: things that we don't We just simply don't know what
Speaker 9: this offensive line looks like together.
Speaker 7: The chemistry. I have not been able.
Speaker 9: To see it out there in a real live, you
Speaker 9: know game.
Speaker 7: I mean, you've seen samples here and there. I'm just
Speaker 7: buying time right.
Speaker 2: Now, try and find it all tactics stall tactics.
Speaker 7: Right now, it's a eighty one.
Speaker 3: Okay, Collectively, that's a pretty solid number. I think it's
Speaker 3: so good about that. I think it's solid.
Speaker 4: It's Are they the best in the NFC?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 9: And I'm managing expectations, at least for myself here because
Speaker 9: I feel like you have a lot of a lot
Speaker 9: of talent. Obviously you have Tyler Smith on sure, and
Speaker 9: I'm saying like you're gonna be okay. But it's just
Speaker 9: a matter of like getting this run game going, and
Speaker 9: if I haven't, if the running backs are not proven
Speaker 9: to be the offensive line with running backs are still
Speaker 9: not yet proven to me, so we have to see
Speaker 9: how that looks.
Speaker 2: Like for me.
Speaker 6: Tyler Smith is a ninety nine or just ninety eight.
Speaker 6: I mean that he's just an animal. He's he's going
Speaker 6: to get he's They're not going to put him in
Speaker 6: a ninety nine clocks. So you have that and Cooper BB.
Speaker 6: I would put Cooper b B at a solid eighty. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 6: those are the only two that I have confidence in
Speaker 6: at the moment. There are a lot of question marks
Speaker 6: Tyler guy in coming off of the struggle, the struggles
Speaker 6: that he had in year one, what does he look
Speaker 6: like this time, especially now that he's returning from an injury.
Speaker 6: How soon can he get back to form and what
Speaker 6: does that form look like as he tries to take
Speaker 6: the next step forward? Terrence Steele, can he get back
Speaker 6: to the top form that we saw pre acl tear
Speaker 6: Tyler Booker looks really good in camp, looks really good
Speaker 6: in preseason. Haven't seen him yet in a regular season game.
Speaker 6: We're about to see him go against the Eagles front.
Speaker 6: You're going to see him going against the Giants front.
Speaker 6: He has to go against the Commander's front. We'll see
Speaker 6: and then from there it just kind of goes TJ.
Speaker 2: Bass.
Speaker 6: You know what, You're having him, solid backup, Brock Kauffman,
Speaker 6: solid backup, Johnny Quinnelia's he had a strong camp. Nate
Speaker 6: Thomas surged in camp. But of all the names that
Speaker 6: I just mentioned on the offensive line, you only have
Speaker 6: confidence at as we sit here in two guys, Tyler
Speaker 6: Smith and Cooper Beebe. So I'm landing firmly at a
Speaker 6: seventy nine. I'm landing at a.
Speaker 7: Stager turn Steel. As far as confidence goes, I think
Speaker 7: he's had a really really good.
Speaker 6: I think he's had a he's thlown under the radar.
Speaker 6: Absolutely he has, and I know it's fine, which is fine.
Speaker 6: He's won reps and he's lost reps. And that's how
Speaker 6: it goes, right when you're going against guys like who
Speaker 6: have the talent of Don Vannezroku and Sam Williams and
Speaker 6: Dante Fowler. But he's also walled off some of those guys.
Speaker 6: So I think Terry Steele has a great opportunity this
Speaker 6: year to get back to form. But until this year begins,
Speaker 6: I can only go by what I'm seeing. So strong
Speaker 6: camp potential to get back there is still there. But
Speaker 6: this that's seventy nine is being carried by Tyler Smith
Speaker 6: and Cooper Bbe and the rest of the guys. Potential
Speaker 6: is there. The trend is there. They're training in the
Speaker 6: right direction, but they're not there yet.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Tommy, I don't want to steal your time,
Speaker 9: but really quickly, if you if we're talking about in
Speaker 9: terms of you want everyone to be healthy, obviously, but
Speaker 9: in terms of like priorities. As far as health goes
Speaker 9: for me, it goes quarterback, wide receiver, offensive line. If
Speaker 9: this offensive line starts becoming, you know, issues with health
Speaker 9: and you have to start.
Speaker 7: Adding these deaf guys in there.
Speaker 9: I mean I it concerns me a bit, but as
Speaker 9: far as priorities go in health.
Speaker 6: It would be of interesting conversation. I think I'll go
Speaker 6: my back offensive line and whatever, so you see.
Speaker 3: I think I would probably do that order too, But
Speaker 3: either way, the offensive line is a priority in that sense.
Speaker 4: That is a good conversation. All right, what's your number?
Speaker 8: Seventy two?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 8: I mean here, here's here's how I look at it.
Speaker 8: Patrick put it really well. The only player you know
Speaker 8: out there right now that is going to be strong
Speaker 8: for you, for a fact, is Tyler Smith. You lost
Speaker 8: a first ballot Hall of Famer at right guard. And
Speaker 8: I think Tyler Brooker is gonna be a good player,
Speaker 8: But you lost a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: A lot of people forget that.
Speaker 8: Zach Martin is I understand it in playelevel last year,
Speaker 8: but you have had him there to where when?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly to where where where?
Speaker 8: Zach Martin has one wheel and he's still playing the
Speaker 8: way he's playing, which is better than most right guards
Speaker 8: that you will find. And again, I think Tyler Brooker
Speaker 8: is going to be a good player, but who knows
Speaker 8: what we're seeing from Tyler Guiden, who knows if Terrence
Speaker 8: Steele is finally in a back to get back to
Speaker 8: what he was before the injury. And then Cooper b
Speaker 8: b had a really good freshman year, like can he
Speaker 8: can he is there?
Speaker 4: Can he do the same thing? And sophomore? Right?
Speaker 8: Can he do the same thing in a second year?
Speaker 8: So I think there's a lot It's similar to a
Speaker 8: lot of the other rooms on the offense where there
Speaker 8: are a lot of unproven guys, there can be guys
Speaker 8: at the top. And that's the thing that we have
Speaker 8: said over and over again with the Cowboys. When you
Speaker 8: look at their roster and you look at the first
Speaker 8: through ten or fifteen players, they are among the best
Speaker 8: in the league in terms of one through fifteen, but
Speaker 8: it's fifteen to fifty three where you kind of get
Speaker 8: a little bit concerned and you need guys to step
Speaker 8: up there. And so's that's how I look at it
Speaker 8: in terms of some of these rooms. And I think
Speaker 8: offensive line has a lot to prove. They have the
Speaker 8: potential to be really good. Yeah, yeah, the potential to
Speaker 8: be really good. But you know, we haven't played a
Speaker 8: game yet, so I can't I can't go off potential.
Speaker 3: Josh eighty one, Patrick seventy nine, Tommy seventy two.
Speaker 4: Go ahead and vote really quickly in the.
Speaker 3: YouTube comments, and I'll give you the winner. Momentarily. Are
Speaker 3: winners for each position today, you'll want to give me
Speaker 3: a little or drum roll. For quarterback, it was Patrick
Speaker 3: no c Walker. Fans agreed with Patrick. I don't remembermember,
Speaker 3: what your number was.
Speaker 4: Eighty eighty is right at eighty, so that was the
Speaker 4: That was the number for Patrick.
Speaker 11: There.
Speaker 4: They agreed with you running back. They agreed with Tommy
Speaker 4: Yarsh what was your number at running back?
Speaker 3: Seventy I think I think it was seventy seventy two
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 8: I think it was seventy fat, seventy flat, so.
Speaker 4: Eighty and seventy wide receiver.
Speaker 3: They agreed with Patrick Nosi Walker, Patrick Noci Walker, who
Speaker 3: had a ninety six.
Speaker 4: It was really tight.
Speaker 3: I actually had a tie between you two, and somebody
Speaker 3: broke the tie between Tommy and Pat, and Tommy had
Speaker 3: eighty nine, Patrick had ninety six.
Speaker 4: Tight end.
Speaker 3: They agreed with Joshua Rodriguez, what was your number on
Speaker 3: tight end?
Speaker 7: Seventy three?
Speaker 3: Seventy three infant and then the offensive line. I'm tallying
Speaker 3: it up as we go. It's currently tied between Josh
Speaker 3: and Tommy with a couple of votes apiece, so we've
Speaker 3: got to go.
Speaker 4: Congratulations to both of you for winning. Tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We'll do the same exercise tomorrow. I appreciate you all
Speaker 3: on the YouTube channel for being super engaged and helping
Speaker 3: us decide a winner. We'll do it again right back
Speaker 3: here nine am Central Time Thursday morning for Patrick Noci Walker,
Speaker 3: Josh Rodriguez, Tommy Ours, Chris Beaman the back of Kyle
Speaker 3: Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys, We'll see you
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning.
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