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Speaker 4: Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys currently on the week before the Week one

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Speaker 3: matchup is this Week zero in the NFL whatever it is, zero,

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Speaker 3: it's a ramp up week goo.

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Speaker 6: College football is back. So week zero, yeah, week zero,

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Speaker 6: Week zero yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it's week zero for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: They' getting ready to take on the Philadelphia Eagles in

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Speaker 3: Week one. We've got Patrick noc Walkers, Josh Rodriguez, Tommy Yarsh,

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Speaker 3: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman.

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Speaker 4: So glad you're with us Loaded show today. Hello, uh,

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to have uh this.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play a little game here coming up in

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Speaker 3: the second and the third segments where it's rating each position.

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Speaker 3: Group Like it's Madden, so we're gonna we're gonna play

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Speaker 3: rate the rate this position. And I feel like there

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Speaker 3: needs to be like some theme music in the background.

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Speaker 4: Let's play right this position.

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Speaker 3: I like it d or whatever that was Mario, but

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Speaker 3: the on accident tell where my mind is copyright, We're

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Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be underneath it on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Now that tune is gonna be stuck in my head

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Speaker 2: for the risk.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, Well maybe that's the official tune of name or

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Speaker 3: rate that position.

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Speaker 4: Uh, but yeah, we've got a lot to break down.

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Speaker 3: In terms of roster cuts as well. The roster cut

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Speaker 3: is done with Patrick.

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Speaker 4: Did to have you back today?

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Speaker 3: It's like it's been a minute, not really a couple

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Speaker 3: episodes have you been on since we've been back.

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Speaker 7: At Yeah, yeah, I think just the one.

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Speaker 2: It was just the one, just the one just to

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Speaker 2: see that's wild though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been back from Oxnard for a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just the one and then yesterday's But so, I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know, I was out of state celebrating my princess's

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Speaker 6: thirteenth birthday.

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Speaker 7: Amazing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like it so, but good thing is

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously she had a fantastic time. She got

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Speaker 6: all the gifts she wanted, and then some she got

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Speaker 6: to do everything she wanted, and then some you know,

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Speaker 6: kind of bittersweet because, like I said, you love to

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Speaker 6: be able to be in position to you know, bless

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Speaker 6: and spoil your your kids the way that that you

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Speaker 6: know I've been able to do. But this is my

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Speaker 6: baby girl, and her turn at thirteen really really grinds

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Speaker 6: my years. So I love seeing her grow up into

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Speaker 6: such a beautiful, respectful and just ambitious and intelligent young lady.

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Speaker 2: But I missed my baby.

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Speaker 4: I felt the same way when Tommy turned thirteen. Thanks

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Speaker 4: last month.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Dad.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, growing up?

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Speaker 2: That's Goodna Lie, he cooked, that's good.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Dad. I wish I could turn the clock

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Speaker 8: back all those days.

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Speaker 4: Baby.

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Speaker 8: Oh brother, guy sticks, thank you Grandpa.

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Speaker 4: That's grandpa being in Grandpa.

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Speaker 2: We are so bad.

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Speaker 3: Oh, glad you're with us here on this one.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I hate to bring the mood down. There were some cuts.

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Speaker 3: There were there were some cuts. I'm gonna read through

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Speaker 3: the list and then we're gonna kind of hit it.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to the cut list for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: remember there's a different between released and waved.

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Speaker 4: Yes, keep that in mind.

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Speaker 3: Released means you can sign with any NFL program all

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Speaker 3: the way through, and you can do so immediately, whereas

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Speaker 3: waved you have to pass through waivers, which then happens today,

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Speaker 3: and they can fill in from those release guys too.

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Speaker 4: So just because they're released doesn't mean they're gone entirely.

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Speaker 3: The WAVED guys are guys that Dallas is kind of

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Speaker 3: with the released. These are guys that were straight up released.

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Speaker 3: Hakeema Dnegy, Ernest Brown, Sadiq Charles, Juan Christian, C. J. Goodwin,

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Speaker 4: Those were the released members of the Cowboys. The Waved

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Speaker 4: Which I think was kind of an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: Princeton Fant, same thing, Tray shon On Holden, who I

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Speaker 6: If you did that on purpose, was a holding a

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Speaker 8: Tell the inflection.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to make sure the heat. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Kyle dropped.

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Speaker 4: Thank you such a host. I know the.

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Speaker 3: Reserved injured DFR two players are able to go on

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Speaker 3: that list in this year was Jonathan Mingo and Peyton Turner.

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Speaker 3: Then reserve slash Pup Josh Butler, Demarve and overshown reserve

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Speaker 3: nfi is savone rebel. Of course the rookie out of

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Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints did uh flipped a sixth and then seventh.

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Speaker 3: It's not like a major deal. You get a sixth,

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Speaker 3: you get you send them awesome Richards n twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, three years off the road.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna look back at twenty twenty eight and we're

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Speaker 3: getting ready for the draft show in like March of

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Speaker 4: Why don't we have a round picking in.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was the awesome Richard Richard trade. Yeah, and

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Speaker 9: He did not, and it's nice to see us get

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Speaker 9: some value out of him. Sure, I mean yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Looks like the snail movement, Like it's movement.

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Speaker 7: Don't get here, it's a movement.

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Speaker 4: But it's just like a little interesting.

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Speaker 9: But how can you come out of yesterday not liking

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Speaker 9: what the Cowboys did? I mean, I understand there are

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Speaker 9: I think it's very indicative of what Brian Schottenheimer's been

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Speaker 9: preaching this whole time, is, you know, competing every day,

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Speaker 9: and the guys that have competed the most are on

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll add this.

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Speaker 6: As far as the awesome Richard's trade is concerned, I mean,

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Speaker 6: so often Cowboys fans or like, well, if you knew

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Speaker 6: so you know there's progress in that in that aspect.

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Speaker 6: And it's like Josh says, when you look at this

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Speaker 6: saying it's the final.

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Speaker 2: No, it is not the final.

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Speaker 6: There's still a lot of dust to be settled, a

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Speaker 6: then seeing him come back. So they still have some

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Speaker 6: roster moves to make over the next twenty four to

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Speaker 6: so late. Oh if you guys could have seen the

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Speaker 2: Josh's like no, and I was like, he's still here.

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Speaker 3: He was like yeah, from a news cycle standpoint, he was.

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Speaker 4: He was told totally out.

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Speaker 3: Remember even Brian Schottenheimer talked about it yesterday Tommy that

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Speaker 9: Al saw how I was celebrating. That's making it the

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Speaker 8: So I thought this was Paul Wall for a minute.

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Speaker 7: Josh Wall two point, Yeah, that is that is Josh Wall.

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Speaker 2: He put on some glasses the Mexican ot.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it yesterday though it was going to

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Speaker 4: And I think Brown is a guy that they hope

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Speaker 3: But perry On Winfrey making this team is significant because

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Speaker 3: it's another USFL slash UFL pickup that you've been able

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Speaker 9: And a guy you genuinely did not want to lose

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Speaker 9: for whatever reason, and and you understand, you know.

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Speaker 2: That it's not for whatever reason, it's for good reason.

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Speaker 9: No, you didn't want to lose him for you know,

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Speaker 9: keeping guys that you've invested more time in that have

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Speaker 7: And even the press conference.

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Speaker 9: I'm so glad I'm here to tell you that you've

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Speaker 9: made the squad and getting emotional about it. Perryon Winfre

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Speaker 9: getting emotional about it, he posted on Twitter, celebrating with

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Speaker 9: his family, Like you love to see that from a

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Speaker 9: guy that he said had the game ripped away from

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Speaker 9: him to come back and make this squad after an

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Speaker 7: You genuinely love to see it.

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Speaker 8: And I think with the defensive tackle group, I think

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Speaker 8: that last spot came down to, Okay, perry On Winfree

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Speaker 8: who's the guy that doesn't have as much noise around

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Speaker 4: He's not He's not gonna start.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, this is going to be a guy that

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Speaker 8: I'm still concerned about the defensive tackle room. But congratulations

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Speaker 8: He was like, We're gonna beat the Eagles and then

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Speaker 2: See for me.

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Speaker 6: I just wasn't as as close in the Perion win

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now it's coming up.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be rid.

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Speaker 7: Now tune in.

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Speaker 2: Did my daughter be sixteen? Stopping stuppy?

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Speaker 8: Well, Tommy, Oh damn man, I'm bang, it's bang, it's

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Speaker 4: I could almost drive a car that was so good.

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Speaker 8: Kyle has gonna stop dropping me off at work.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 4: Bring your backpack to that, I did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I had heard free, I had perry On

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Speaker 6: there were times where you know, perry On would come

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Speaker 2: Now that's not to say.

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Speaker 6: That he can't develop if he is to return and

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Speaker 6: But I cannot stress enough how glad I am to

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Speaker 6: again I'm with on this. I don't think the defensive

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Speaker 8: We got to get ready for a scenario where they

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Speaker 3: They don't have a one tech. No, do you have

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Speaker 3: one other than Ja Toya on this roster? No, like

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Speaker 8: No, I don't think so, And I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: There are guys who can do it.

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Speaker 8: Sure you can look around the league and say, all right,

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Speaker 2: What's that was that Cjko.

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Speaker 7: From the Race Ravens that just relave.

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Speaker 6: Correct because and I'll confirm this because rumor has it

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Speaker 4: Number ninety one. They did release Denzel Dacks.

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Speaker 6: Well now because they released Innzel Decks, and if they

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Speaker 6: It will buy you time to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's an angle to be played. And you know,

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Speaker 8: I think you know the Cowboys of defensive tackle. Right now,

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Speaker 9: Well just measurables for those that don't know. Just released

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Speaker 9: by the Ravens. He's sixty six, three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: That's pretty large.

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Speaker 7: Arguably in some circles. Sources say that's.

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Speaker 6: A big D in some solar systems, big do not

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Speaker 8: You know what, there's your strategy. Get big X the

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Speaker 4: They do it and it's.

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Speaker 8: Called a NASCARSS package where they get they put four

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Speaker 6: I think what's the trade off the trick? Yeah, the

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Speaker 8: Playing Yeah, if you play a veteran quarterback, it's check check,

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Speaker 3: Consistency, Yeah, that's some of the question marks. And I

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Speaker 3: what experiment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, cos.

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Speaker 2: That's going to go crazy now.

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Speaker 3: Preseason experiments and that I think those two things together

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Speaker 10: Coyer.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea because it's a big body, he's experienced,

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Speaker 3: he's played an NFL.

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Speaker 2: What does it hurt?

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Speaker 3: What is it hurt to try to try and kick

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Speaker 3: the tires see what happens if he's available.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's at least give it a look.

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Speaker 3: Especially But again, just like Tommy said about Perry on Winfrey,

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Speaker 4: We're done.

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Speaker 3: It's a guy that just got released by the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna be okay with our defensive tackle room?

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Speaker 3: Probably not. It's just another name.

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Speaker 7: The reason he was waived in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Correct, not to sound like Minckey Spagnola, but that's that's

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Speaker 4: Why is he available now?

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Speaker 3: And so he is available now? Maybe the Cowboys kick

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Speaker 3: our next segment, what kind of roster Olympics, Patrick, can

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Speaker 2: There are I mentioned it earlier. C J.

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Speaker 6: Goodwin he told me after the final practice, not final practice,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: You're also likely going to see as early as today

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Speaker 2: One will likely be.

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Speaker 6: Phil Mafah and the other will be Kayln Carson. Those

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Speaker 7: Those are designated to return, Well.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to. So the way it works is

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Speaker 6: why did Jay? Why did they DT? Are Peyton Turner

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Speaker 6: and Jonathan Mingo but not Kayln Carson's because you can

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Speaker 6: You have to carry Phil MafA and Kayln Carson for

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Speaker 6: move them to IR unless you want to end their

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Speaker 6: So expect to see Kayln Carson and Phil MafA go

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Speaker 6: That's going to free up to roster spots. One is

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Speaker 6: if that holds true.

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Speaker 4: That's the veteran one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if that holds true.

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Speaker 6: But the Cowboys, Yeah, but the Cowboys are also in

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Speaker 6: shoddy reference to yesterday. They are scouring the waiver wire

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Speaker 6: today they are number twelve in.

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Speaker 2: The waiver wire.

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Speaker 7: Bordersiness there.

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Speaker 6: They're open for business was his quote. His exact quote.

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Speaker 6: They're going to put in several claims. They're going to

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Speaker 6: see what happens. Now, keep in mind, anyone that's claimed

451
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Speaker 6: successfully by the Cowboys has to go to the active rosters,

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Speaker 6: so we may not see what the quote unquote final

453
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Speaker 6: roster is. What I should say the week one depth trot, well,

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Speaker 6: we may not know what the Week one depth Trot

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Speaker 6: looks like, probably until later this week as far as

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Speaker 6: the quasi finality of it. But they're gonna be the

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Speaker 6: numbers purpose exactly. There're gonna be some gymnastics going on there.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely good to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 3: And you can keep up with all those moves on

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we're gonna talk about each of

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Speaker 3: We're gonna give a grade overall position grade like it's Madden.

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Speaker 3: And then I need the YouTube comments to really ramp

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Speaker 3: Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam in the back of Kyle you know.

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Speaker 4: But and then we've got Tommy yars choked. Yeah, sorry, guys.

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Speaker 3: We've got Tommy Yarrash, who has been the subject of

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Speaker 3: some scrutiny here over the verst.

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Speaker 4: Of the show.

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Speaker 8: Uh, texted my teacher to make sure that I you know,

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Speaker 8: but I didn't miss my homework from last night.

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Speaker 2: So where's your whole past?

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Speaker 8: Well, I had to fill out if I had to

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Speaker 8: finish filling out the sixth grade coloring book for art class.

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Speaker 4: Oh good, I'm glad.

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Speaker 7: Are you on lunch A or B? B?

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's not cool enough, he's not.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say, you're not cool enough to

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Speaker 2: be on a lunch Uh.

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Speaker 3: Jerjeremy wins our comment end of the day, and it's

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Speaker 3: not even really close at the moment. Jeremy goes, Kyle

533
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Speaker 3: has more facial hair or has more kids than Tommy

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Speaker 3: has facial hair.

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Speaker 4: That's really good. That's really good. Kyle has more kids

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Speaker 4: than Tommy has facial hair. A good job, Jeremy.

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Speaker 3: I am keeping score. By the way, for comments of

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Speaker 3: the day, So this is going to go all the

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Speaker 3: way through.

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Speaker 4: Coming up the year needs to be a correct It'll

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Speaker 4: be commentur of.

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Speaker 7: The oh, coming of the Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm saving all of them. I'm saving them, all the

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Speaker 3: ones that win. I'm documenting. I'm keeping it and we

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Speaker 3: will be back after week seventeen or after the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Whenever this thing ends, we'll be right back there to

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Speaker 3: hit it at the end of the year. I need

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Speaker 3: the YouTube comments here in this segment though, because we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do it. This is kind of a newer thing.

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Speaker 3: I want to rank the rate each position group on

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Speaker 3: this Cowboys roster, and I want each person to give

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Speaker 3: their ranking and then and I want you guys on

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Speaker 3: the YouTube comments to vote who you feel like is

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Speaker 3: the closest based off of their ranking, and they may

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Speaker 3: end up being the same, but just keep that in

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Speaker 3: mind as you're voting.

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Speaker 9: Questions for the rating system. Because I want to get

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Speaker 9: this down. I want to have a key for everybody

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Speaker 9: at home. You're saying Madden rating system, but Madden rating

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Speaker 9: but players are rated you know one or yeah, once

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Speaker 9: ninety nine, and but position groups or or yeah.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say position groups, but I guess.

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Speaker 2: Because we're rating position groups, right, we are through rating

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Speaker 2: position groups.

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Speaker 7: Do you want that A through F one one nine?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so good, good question.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you each position group, will go

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Speaker 3: and order quarterbacks, running backs, wide average, and I want

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Speaker 3: you to tell me what you would rate this group

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Speaker 3: if it was a group in Madden OK, if it

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Speaker 3: was a one through ninety nine rating as a team

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Speaker 3: group in Madden and then we'll talk about where that

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Speaker 3: could relate. At the end of the podcast, we're going

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Speaker 3: to start with the offense. In this segment, I want.

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Speaker 4: To start with the quarterbacks. That's a pretty easy one.

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Speaker 3: You've got two guys on that list right now, and

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Speaker 3: that's Dak Prescot, that's Joe Milton. Of course, we'll see

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Speaker 3: what happens in the open market. We'll see what happens

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Speaker 3: on the free agency side of things. Tommy, I'll let

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Speaker 3: you start Dak Prescott and Joe Milton.

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Speaker 8: Go eighty four, eighty four, eighty four. For the quarterback room,

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Speaker 8: I think you know Dak Prescott, he has shown you

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Speaker 8: that he can be an elite quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 8: And I feel like he is a good quarterback in

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Speaker 8: this league. But you know, we don't know what he's

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Speaker 8: going to be this year, year ten, coming off another

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Speaker 8: major injury. He's been injured three out of the last

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Speaker 8: five years, and so you just kind of don't know.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying Dak Prescott's gonna have a bad season.

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Speaker 8: I think he's going to play very well and he's

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Speaker 8: got you know, one of the best, if not the

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Speaker 8: best surrounding cast of skill talent that he's had during

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Speaker 8: his time in Dallas. But there's still a lot of

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Speaker 8: uncertainty there, and then Joe Milton might be the textbook

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Speaker 8: definition of uncertainty. Or maybe that's not even the right word.

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Speaker 8: It might just be, you know, the guy still needs

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Speaker 8: to play. He needs to play, he needs the reps,

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Speaker 8: and I think you saw flashes of what he can

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Speaker 8: be in that third and final preseason game. But you

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Speaker 8: also have to put the reality goggles on and say, look,

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Speaker 8: this was against the Falcons, you know, backups, third stringers,

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Speaker 8: and I'm sure Joe Milton was playing with their Cowboys

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Speaker 8: backups and third stringers. But it's nonetheless, it's a guy

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Speaker 8: who needs to play.

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Speaker 2: And needs experience.

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Speaker 8: So we'll see what happens this year. But I think

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Speaker 8: eighty four is a fair fair rating.

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Speaker 3: What I like about that is that Dak Prescott's Madden

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Speaker 3: rating is an eighty four exactly, Oh is it really?

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Speaker 3: Which means that you just anticipate no Joe Milton all

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Speaker 3: year long, which I'm.

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Speaker 8: Cool with, sure with it. I think they they certainly hope,

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Speaker 8: So that's the case.

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Speaker 4: They hope that's the case.

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Speaker 9: So it's a simple math equation. Man, it's it's science.

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Speaker 9: Everybody knows the science.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows.

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Speaker 7: I'm the science Biel. So eighty nine plus sixty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, science, there it is.

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Speaker 7: Average is out about to seventy eight point five.

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Speaker 4: Seventy eight point five.

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Speaker 2: That's that's from it.

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Speaker 6: I'm landing squarely on eighty And for me, it's obviously

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Speaker 6: Dak carries. Dak has proven that he can be a

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Speaker 6: lead horse in the NFL MVP conversation. He's proven that

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Speaker 6: he can operate at an all pro level. He's proven

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Speaker 6: that he can operate at a record setting level. But

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Speaker 6: he is coming off of a major injury. He has

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Speaker 6: had some availability issues. Cowboys need him to stay on

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Speaker 6: the field the entirety of the season. If for whatever reason,

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Speaker 6: he misses a game or two, I have no clue

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Speaker 6: what I have in Joe Milton. I'm going to go

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Speaker 6: ahead and give that young man his flowers for one

634
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Speaker 6: hell of a bounce back game in the preseason finale.

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Speaker 6: But that's one game versus the previous two games, which

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Speaker 6: is he flunked both of those games. In my opinion,

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Speaker 6: I don't know and to Tommy's point, as far as

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Speaker 6: Joe Milton having this bounce back game against the backups

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Speaker 6: to the backups, I don't know that if Joe Milton,

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Speaker 6: and this is just objectively speaking, I don't know that

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Speaker 6: if he's sent up against an NFC East rival because

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Speaker 6: Dak is not available that particular week against their starters,

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Speaker 6: that he can get that job done. I just don't know.

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Speaker 6: So for me, it's funny that you say Deck's rating.

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Speaker 2: Is eighty four.

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Speaker 6: We'll bring it, bring the group down to an eighty,

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Speaker 6: because I don't know what I have in Joe Milton

648
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Speaker 6: if Dak misses.

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Speaker 2: A game or two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you have eighty or Patrick has eighty, Josh

651
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Speaker 3: has seventy eight point five seventy eight, uh, and then

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Speaker 3: Tommy has eighty four. Rate who and vote on who

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Speaker 3: you feel like has the closest rating.

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Speaker 4: To what you would have overall?

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Speaker 7: What about you?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna skip because we need to be quick running

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Speaker 3: backs running backs.

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Speaker 4: I'll let Josh start on this one.

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Speaker 7: That one's tough.

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Speaker 9: Outside looking in remember five as objective as possible, I'm

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Speaker 9: going with a seventy four, okay, running back situation.

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Speaker 6: And where'd you get right, seventy seven, seventy five, five okay,

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Speaker 6: seventy five.

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Speaker 3: Because you had Sanders, Williams Blue and then MafA and

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Speaker 3: lip Key did make the roster.

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Speaker 2: MafA mafas about or expect.

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Speaker 9: And as as of right now in this moment, you know,

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Speaker 9: preseason not be in clear in this unproven guys, we

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Speaker 9: don't know what this is going to look like right.

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Speaker 3: Now, Tommy seventy Okay, so a little bit lower.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not I'm not as high as on this

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Speaker 8: from six. I think I think you've I think you've

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Speaker 8: got You've got veteran guys in there that, you know,

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Speaker 8: the last couple of years haven't really done a lot

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Speaker 8: to give you a ton of confidence. You've got young

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Speaker 8: guys like jin Blue who can take the top off

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Speaker 8: a defense and kind of hit that second gear. But overall,

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Speaker 8: a lot of a lot of unprovenness and a lot

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Speaker 8: of guys needing bounce backs and career resurgence, and you

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Speaker 8: know that's just not something that you really you really

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Speaker 8: want to bank on if you don't have to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are some ratings in the chat currently

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Speaker 3: that are even lower than that. I mean, we dim boys,

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Speaker 3: says if Sanders gets more snaps than Blue does than

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Speaker 3: sixty sixty five, I've seen pop up. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: not a whole lot of confidence. And in this why

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Speaker 3: would there be I don't have any it would be.

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Speaker 4: I think I would be closer to Tommy.

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Speaker 3: I think I'd be like seventy eight, or E'd be

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Speaker 3: sixty eight or seventy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it would.

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Speaker 9: Be silly to be overly confident about the running back

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Speaker 9: room right now. Yeah, because you saw how it was

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Speaker 9: last year and you haven't seen these guys play with

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Speaker 9: this offensive line to the I mean, practice is one thing,

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Speaker 9: but we're talking about live reps here, and we just

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Speaker 9: we don't have the evidence.

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Speaker 4: Not a game, not a game, talking about practice O practice?

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Speaker 4: All right? Moving on to wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, so seventy five for Patrick, seventy

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Speaker 3: four for Josh, and seventy for Tommy Yarish wide receivers

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Speaker 3: they kept, of course, Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens, Jalen Tolbert

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Speaker 3: Cavante Turp and Ryan Flinoyd.

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Speaker 4: Those guys are pretty solidified.

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Speaker 5: Five.

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Speaker 4: You feel pretty good about Patrick.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you start ninety six.

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Speaker 6: Woh, this is you feel Ceede Lamb George Pickens first

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Speaker 6: and foremally you can stop right there because to me,

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Speaker 6: you're talking like Ceedee Lamb. I would say, Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 6: is a ninety eight. Okay, Let's say Ceede Lamb is

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Speaker 6: a ninety eight. Let's say George Pickens is a ninety

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Speaker 6: five to me? Give or take right to me.

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Speaker 4: Let's know what is on Madden. Give me to eighty

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Speaker 4: three lamb.

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Speaker 2: Stop it.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, I'll split the I'll split, I'll

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Speaker 6: split the difference. Let's say Cee Lamb is a ninety eight.

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Speaker 6: Let's say George Pickens is a ninety Okay, Cee the Lamb,

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Speaker 6: George Pickens. I love, love, love that they agreed with me.

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Speaker 6: On Ryan Flinoy, I love that. I think that Ryan

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Speaker 6: Flinoy has an extremely high ceiling h and I think

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Speaker 6: that that will begin to show itself as early as

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Speaker 6: this year. Cavante Turpin. You know you gotta have Cavante

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Speaker 6: Turpin on on the roster. And if they can get

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Speaker 6: Cavante Turpin more involved, not just in the running back position,

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Speaker 6: but in targets down the field and quick slants, get

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Speaker 6: him out in space as a wide receiver, he can

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Speaker 6: do some damage. And Jalen Tobert, you know what you

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Speaker 6: have in Jaylen Tobert. So that's pretty much that. So

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Speaker 6: I'm going what I said, ninety six. Yeah, I'm going

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Speaker 6: ninety six because it's top heavy Lamb, Pickins, Turpin, and

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Speaker 6: I love the potential on Flinoy.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm going ninety six.

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Speaker 9: My average is eighty wow average. But I think it's

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Speaker 9: the guys that you have under Kamanti Tturbin. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 9: for me, your top three guys are CD, George Pickens, Kamanti,

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Speaker 9: Srpin and Cavante is not necessarily proven as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 7: He's proven because of his speed.

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Speaker 9: And his playmakeability, right, Jalen Tobert, I've been honest that

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Speaker 9: I don't think that he's bringing enough to the offensive

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Speaker 9: scheme currently. He obviously knows it very well, his great

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Speaker 9: chemistry with Dak Prescott. He had scored the most touchdowns

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Speaker 9: of any receiver last year, so you have to take

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Speaker 9: that into account. But I just don't think that the

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Speaker 9: depth is as great as we want it to be.

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Speaker 9: And if you're considering, you know, God forbid something happens

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Speaker 9: to either CD or George Piggins. I think you're kind

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Speaker 9: of back to square one as far as not getting

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Speaker 9: guys open, not having that same chemistry that you've been

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Speaker 9: having all off season. Uh, it really hinges on your

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Speaker 9: top two guys.

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Speaker 7: Him we're top heavy.

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Speaker 6: I think that's what flow steps in and you start

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Speaker 6: to really see something and I hope so.

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Speaker 7: And I think full has proven that. I thought Jalen

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Speaker 7: Brooks proved it.

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Speaker 4: To okay, But here we are with for now, for now,

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Speaker 4: for now.

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Speaker 8: Eighty nine, eighty nine eighty nine. I think you know,

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Speaker 8: both of you guys made a good point. Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 8: George Pickens. That has a chance to be one of

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Speaker 8: the best tandems in the NFL this year. After that,

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Speaker 8: I don't know. Jim, like Jalen Tolbert, did not have

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Speaker 8: a good camp and did not have a good preseason.

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Speaker 8: I don't think, you know, I don't think it was

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Speaker 8: great at all. Cavante Turpin, they want to get him

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Speaker 8: the ball a lot more as a receiver, you don't

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Speaker 8: really know if he's he's a guy you can count

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Speaker 8: on as your third or even fourth option. And then

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Speaker 8: Ryan Flinoy is you know, he had a really good camp.

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Speaker 8: I thought he did really well. But this is a

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Speaker 8: guy who made the team because of his ability as

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Speaker 8: a gunner on special teams. And don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 8: that's important. But you know, can this guy go out

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Speaker 8: and and play for you if you need him to?

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Speaker 8: I think he could. He's not going to be your

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Speaker 8: best receiver, of course, but overall, the you know, I

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Speaker 8: think top heavy is the right word because those first

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Speaker 8: two guys are going to put some fear into opposing defense. Absolutely,

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Speaker 8: but after that it's you know, you aren't really sure.

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Speaker 8: You aren't really sure.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you were ninety six eighty. This is the

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Speaker 4: biggest discrepancy we've had so far.

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Speaker 3: Ninety six eighties Josh crazy, Yeah, I think I'll you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give my opinion here because I want

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Speaker 3: the chat to give theirs first. And then Tommy said

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Speaker 3: in eighty nine. So Patrick ninety six, Josh eighty, Tommy

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Speaker 3: eighty nine, pick your winner in the chat.

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Speaker 3: depth and then do defense tomorrow. Yeah, you want to

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Speaker 3: do that? Let's take our second break here. When we

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Speaker 3: come back, we'll hit the rest of the offense, and

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Speaker 3: All right, going into tight end position, cowboys, keep three

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Speaker 3: tight ends on the roster for now. I think this

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Speaker 2: It's just the active roster group.

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Speaker 4: Rivoldo Fairweather. They'll probably be big.

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Speaker 7: Aldo.

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Speaker 9: He needs to be our new rico, our new rico

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna take Aimnute. All right, Tommy, your turn

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Speaker 8: It tight ends. I'll go with seventy six because I

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Speaker 8: see similar production to what you saw on twenty twenty

885
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 8: three out of him. Outside of that, you know, I

886
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 8: think Luke Schoonmaker was better last year. But at the

887
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 8: same time, I think he was set up in a

888
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 8: position to where he really had to be because you know,

889
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 8: Ferguson was out for some of it and Dak Prescott's out,

890
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 8: so you know, so there were some situations where I

891
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 8: feel like he was just putting a good spot and

892
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 8: he took advantage of the opportunity which is what you

893
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 8: want to see. But I don't think he has still

894
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 8: been what everyone hoped he would be, you know, which

895
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 8: is kind of Do they feel confident enough to go

896
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 8: twelve personnel with him out there? And I think they can.

897
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 8: But I think I still like Brevin span Ford a lot. Man.

898
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 4: I think this kid has.

899
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 8: A lot of upside and I think he can really

900
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 8: be one of the better tight ends in the room

901
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 8: and pushed for that second spot. I think if you

902
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 8: are going to go twelve, you put him in line

903
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 8: and put Ferguson next to him and let him go

904
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 8: be a receiving guy. Because span Ford's hands are still

905
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 8: coming along. Took a step in the right direction before

906
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 8: the injury, but overall, yeah, I think, you know, he's

907
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 8: still a little hesitant, and you got to see what

908
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson has and see how spa Ford reacts.

909
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: What was your number again?

910
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 8: Seventy six?

911
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: Seventy six?

912
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 8: All right, Patrick, No, seventy four, I'm sorry, seventy four.

913
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: My bad.

914
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 6: I'm with Melvin in the comments on this one. I'm

915
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 6: slamming the hope em for Jake Ferguson improvement. I'm right

916
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 6: there with you, Melvin, so I'm going to go with

917
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 6: not going to go too high here overall, let's go

918
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 6: with an eighty one. I'm going with eighty one. I

919
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 6: believe that Jake Ferguson does have a bounce back year.

920
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 6: I wonder what that looks like though, with George Pickens

921
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 6: in the mix, because there's only so many targets to

922
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 6: go around. If you want to be the quote unquote

923
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 6: balanced team that Shoddy and Dak continue to say that

924
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 6: they will be. That means you're going to hand off

925
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 6: the ball a good number of times. So what does

926
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: Jake's targets look like? So I do think he takes

927
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 6: full advantage of those targets. I think he has a

928
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: bounce back here. Luke Schoolmaker, he took some strides, and

929
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 6: the absence of Jake last year because of Jake's injuries,

930
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 6: the knee of sprain, the concussion, saw some strides from

931
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 6: Luke Schoolmaker. Not prepared to say this is going to

932
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 6: be a breakout year for Schoolmaker though, and Breven span

933
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 6: Ford agree with Tommy high ceiling, very high ceiling on

934
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 6: that young man. But still some development to be had

935
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 6: with his hands. The size is there, the athleticism is there,

936
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 6: the ability to block in line is there, but I

937
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 6: need to see more from him as far as the

938
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 6: receiving ability goes. I've seen him take steps last year

939
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 6: in that capacity, but you know, when you combine that

940
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 6: those needs for development with schoolmaker, I want to see

941
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 6: him take some more strides as he did last year.

942
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 6: Jake is obviously carrying the room, which is of no

943
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 6: surprise to anyone, but I think he carries it to

944
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 6: an eighty one.

945
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: That is his rating on Matt Really, yeah, all right,

946
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: he's an eighty one, and then I'll.

947
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: Tell you the other two after Josh, you give your

948
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: your number.

949
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 9: My number collectively for the tight end position group is

950
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 9: going to be and needs to write this down, got it?

951
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 7: It is going to be seventy.

952
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: Three seventy three point forty three three three three three

953
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: three three three three three three thirty three, got it?

954
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 7: And four four I'm just kidding. No, no, no, no, it's

955
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 7: it's just a lot of threes.

956
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 9: My my stance on this, I actually agree with Matten

957
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 9: in that I think Jake Ferguson's rating is an eighty one.

958
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 9: The more confidence that he gets with Dak, the chemistry

959
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 9: that they already have obviously that seam throw, all of

960
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 9: the things. I think he can get his high as

961
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 9: an eighty four eighty one depending on how he starts

962
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 9: rolling this season. The guy's under him, though, I just

963
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 9: am not seeing enough there. I mean, Luke schoon Maker,

964
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 9: we've talked about. Aw, he's at a nice camp, but

965
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 9: you know, is he a guy that you can really

966
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 9: lean on? And if Jake Ferguson, for whatever reason, is

967
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 9: not in the mix, are you you know, is that

968
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 9: an actual target for you? Is that a threat to

969
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 9: opposing defenses?

970
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 15: Ye?

971
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 7: I'm I'm just not seeing it.

972
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 9: I think what you saw from a Rovoldo Fairweather was impressive.

973
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 9: I thought that his athletic ability is something that you

974
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 9: don't necessarily have in the tight end room right now.

975
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 9: It's surprising to me that you get that you would

976
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 9: waive a guy with those traits, and you know, granted,

977
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 9: hopefully he gets the practice squad, but I just don't

978
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 9: know that there's enough there identity wise, outside of Jake

979
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 9: Ferguson to really, you know, get you a passing grade.

980
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 7: I mean, seventy three. Is you know, I don't know

981
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 7: what we're doing here.

982
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: They couldn't give you both of your guys.

983
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 3: They gave me Perry On winfree.

984
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: They didn't. They couldn't give you Rivaldo Fairweather too. At

985
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 4: least they got you want your guys.

986
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 9: But understandable because of what they're asking Schoonmaker to do

987
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 9: and what they're asking Brevin svan Ford to do. I

988
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 9: completely understand that that mentality. But also it's like when

989
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 9: you have someone with the athletic ability of a Fairweather

990
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 9: or anybody else that they keeps colleg Tuble. I mean,

991
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 9: I think you saw some good things from them. It's

992
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 9: just a change of pacing you're not seeing.

993
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 6: I agree, But I also agree with Kyle because to

994
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 6: carry four tight ends to get Fairweather on you do

995
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 6: you lose Verry?

996
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 4: When you do, you lose Hunter Lipkey?

997
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: Right? Do you lose kind of you lose James Houston? Right.

998
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 6: So it's not a conversation I'm willing to have. But

999
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 6: you're right though. So hopefully fair Weather is back on

1000
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 6: the practice.

1001
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: Question, I really hope.

1002
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: So the ratings for Matten by the way eighty one,

1003
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 3: seventy one sixty four and Ferguson Scoonmaker than Brevin spam Ford.

1004
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: Uh So the numbers were Tommy.

1005
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Seventy four, Patrick eighty one, and then Joshua seventy.

1006
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 4: Three point three three three three three three three three three.

1007
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: Uh Gi, give us your vote on who is closest

1008
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 3: to your thought process when it comes to the tight

1009
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 3: end room. Moving to offensive line. Last one for today.

1010
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: This one's gonna be an interesting one because you got

1011
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: to kind of got to rate it off of your

1012
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: starting offensive line, but also the depth that you've got

1013
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: there too, and so it's not like a true average

1014
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: because you anticipate those guys up front playing for the

1015
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: majority of the snaps.

1016
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: Josh I'll let you start, oh man.

1017
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 9: So I'm just gonna have to go with my gut here.

1018
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 9: I didn't do the math on these guys at this

1019
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 9: point right now. I think there's a lot of unproven

1020
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 9: things that we don't We just simply don't know what

1021
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 9: this offensive line looks like together.

1022
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 7: The chemistry. I have not been able.

1023
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 9: To see it out there in a real live, you

1024
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 9: know game.

1025
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 7: I mean, you've seen samples here and there. I'm just

1026
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 7: buying time right.

1027
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: Now, try and find it all tactics stall tactics.

1028
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 7: Right now, it's a eighty one.

1029
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Collectively, that's a pretty solid number. I think it's

1030
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: so good about that. I think it's solid.

1031
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: It's Are they the best in the NFC?

1032
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: Now?

1033
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 14: No?

1034
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 9: And I'm managing expectations, at least for myself here because

1035
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 9: I feel like you have a lot of a lot

1036
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 9: of talent. Obviously you have Tyler Smith on sure, and

1037
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 9: I'm saying like you're gonna be okay. But it's just

1038
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 9: a matter of like getting this run game going, and

1039
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 9: if I haven't, if the running backs are not proven

1040
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 9: to be the offensive line with running backs are still

1041
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 9: not yet proven to me, so we have to see

1042
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 9: how that looks.

1043
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: Like for me.

1044
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 6: Tyler Smith is a ninety nine or just ninety eight.

1045
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 6: I mean that he's just an animal. He's he's going

1046
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 6: to get he's They're not going to put him in

1047
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 6: a ninety nine clocks. So you have that and Cooper BB.

1048
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 6: I would put Cooper b B at a solid eighty. Okay, Okay,

1049
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 6: those are the only two that I have confidence in

1050
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 6: at the moment. There are a lot of question marks

1051
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 6: Tyler guy in coming off of the struggle, the struggles

1052
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: that he had in year one, what does he look

1053
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 6: like this time, especially now that he's returning from an injury.

1054
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: How soon can he get back to form and what

1055
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 6: does that form look like as he tries to take

1056
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 6: the next step forward? Terrence Steele, can he get back

1057
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 6: to the top form that we saw pre acl tear

1058
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 6: Tyler Booker looks really good in camp, looks really good

1059
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 6: in preseason. Haven't seen him yet in a regular season game.

1060
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 6: We're about to see him go against the Eagles front.

1061
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 6: You're going to see him going against the Giants front.

1062
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 6: He has to go against the Commander's front. We'll see

1063
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 6: and then from there it just kind of goes TJ.

1064
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: Bass.

1065
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 6: You know what, You're having him, solid backup, Brock Kauffman,

1066
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 6: solid backup, Johnny Quinnelia's he had a strong camp. Nate

1067
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 6: Thomas surged in camp. But of all the names that

1068
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 6: I just mentioned on the offensive line, you only have

1069
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 6: confidence at as we sit here in two guys, Tyler

1070
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 6: Smith and Cooper Beebe. So I'm landing firmly at a

1071
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 6: seventy nine. I'm landing at a.

1072
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 7: Stager turn Steel. As far as confidence goes, I think

1073
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 7: he's had a really really good.

1074
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 6: I think he's had a he's thlown under the radar.

1075
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 6: Absolutely he has, and I know it's fine, which is fine.

1076
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 6: He's won reps and he's lost reps. And that's how

1077
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 6: it goes, right when you're going against guys like who

1078
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 6: have the talent of Don Vannezroku and Sam Williams and

1079
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 6: Dante Fowler. But he's also walled off some of those guys.

1080
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 6: So I think Terry Steele has a great opportunity this

1081
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 6: year to get back to form. But until this year begins,

1082
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 6: I can only go by what I'm seeing. So strong

1083
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 6: camp potential to get back there is still there. But

1084
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 6: this that's seventy nine is being carried by Tyler Smith

1085
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 6: and Cooper Bbe and the rest of the guys. Potential

1086
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 6: is there. The trend is there. They're training in the

1087
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 6: right direction, but they're not there yet.

1088
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, and Tommy, I don't want to steal your time,

1089
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 9: but really quickly, if you if we're talking about in

1090
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 9: terms of you want everyone to be healthy, obviously, but

1091
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 9: in terms of like priorities. As far as health goes

1092
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 9: for me, it goes quarterback, wide receiver, offensive line. If

1093
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 9: this offensive line starts becoming, you know, issues with health

1094
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 9: and you have to start.

1095
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 7: Adding these deaf guys in there.

1096
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 9: I mean I it concerns me a bit, but as

1097
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 9: far as priorities go in health.

1098
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 6: It would be of interesting conversation. I think I'll go

1099
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 6: my back offensive line and whatever, so you see.

1100
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: I think I would probably do that order too, But

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Speaker 3: either way, the offensive line is a priority in that sense.

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Speaker 4: That is a good conversation. All right, what's your number?

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Speaker 8: Seventy two?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 8: I mean here, here's here's how I look at it.

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Speaker 8: Patrick put it really well. The only player you know

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Speaker 8: out there right now that is going to be strong

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00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 8: for you, for a fact, is Tyler Smith. You lost

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Speaker 8: a first ballot Hall of Famer at right guard. And

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Speaker 8: I think Tyler Brooker is gonna be a good player,

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Speaker 8: But you lost a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people forget that.

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Speaker 8: Zach Martin is I understand it in playelevel last year,

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00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 8: but you have had him there to where when?

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00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly to where where where?

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Speaker 8: Zach Martin has one wheel and he's still playing the

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Speaker 8: way he's playing, which is better than most right guards

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Speaker 8: that you will find. And again, I think Tyler Brooker

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00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 8: is going to be a good player, but who knows

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Speaker 8: what we're seeing from Tyler Guiden, who knows if Terrence

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00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 8: Steele is finally in a back to get back to

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Speaker 8: what he was before the injury. And then Cooper b

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Speaker 8: b had a really good freshman year, like can he

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Speaker 8: can he is there?

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Speaker 4: Can he do the same thing? And sophomore? Right?

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Speaker 8: Can he do the same thing in a second year?

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Speaker 8: So I think there's a lot It's similar to a

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Speaker 8: lot of the other rooms on the offense where there

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Speaker 8: are a lot of unproven guys, there can be guys

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Speaker 8: at the top. And that's the thing that we have

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00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 8: said over and over again with the Cowboys. When you

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Speaker 8: look at their roster and you look at the first

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Speaker 8: through ten or fifteen players, they are among the best

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Speaker 8: in the league in terms of one through fifteen, but

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Speaker 8: it's fifteen to fifty three where you kind of get

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Speaker 8: a little bit concerned and you need guys to step

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Speaker 8: up there. And so's that's how I look at it

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Speaker 8: in terms of some of these rooms. And I think

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Speaker 8: offensive line has a lot to prove. They have the

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Speaker 8: potential to be really good. Yeah, yeah, the potential to

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00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 8: be really good. But you know, we haven't played a

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Speaker 8: game yet, so I can't I can't go off potential.

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Speaker 3: Josh eighty one, Patrick seventy nine, Tommy seventy two.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead and vote really quickly in the.

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Speaker 3: YouTube comments, and I'll give you the winner. Momentarily. Are

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Speaker 3: winners for each position today, you'll want to give me

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00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 3: a little or drum roll. For quarterback, it was Patrick

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Speaker 3: no c Walker. Fans agreed with Patrick. I don't remembermember,

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Speaker 3: what your number was.

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Speaker 4: Eighty eighty is right at eighty, so that was the

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Speaker 4: That was the number for Patrick.

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Speaker 11: There.

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Speaker 4: They agreed with you running back. They agreed with Tommy

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Speaker 4: Yarsh what was your number at running back?

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Speaker 3: Seventy I think I think it was seventy seventy two

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 8: I think it was seventy fat, seventy flat, so.

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Speaker 4: Eighty and seventy wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: They agreed with Patrick Nosi Walker, Patrick Noci Walker, who

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Speaker 3: had a ninety six.

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Speaker 4: It was really tight.

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Speaker 3: I actually had a tie between you two, and somebody

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00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: broke the tie between Tommy and Pat, and Tommy had

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Speaker 3: eighty nine, Patrick had ninety six.

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00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 4: Tight end.

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Speaker 3: They agreed with Joshua Rodriguez, what was your number on

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Speaker 3: tight end?

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Speaker 7: Seventy three?

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Speaker 3: Seventy three infant and then the offensive line. I'm tallying

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Speaker 3: it up as we go. It's currently tied between Josh

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Speaker 3: and Tommy with a couple of votes apiece, so we've

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Speaker 3: got to go.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations to both of you for winning. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We'll do the same exercise tomorrow. I appreciate you all

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Speaker 3: on the YouTube channel for being super engaged and helping

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Speaker 3: us decide a winner. We'll do it again right back

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Speaker 3: here nine am Central Time Thursday morning for Patrick Noci Walker,

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Speaker 3: Josh Rodriguez, Tommy Ours, Chris Beaman the back of Kyle

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Speaker 3: Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys, We'll see you

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Speaker 3: tomorrow morning.

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