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Speaker 1: Today was yet another day of drama for everybody's favorite

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Speaker 1: NFL offseason storyline, the trade of Micah Parsons to the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. And actually, after hearing what I heard

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Speaker 1: Today was the day you almost didn't trade for Michaeh Parsons.

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Speaker 1: You almost didn't say two first round picks and a

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Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Price was in the Thursday Mr. Club.

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Speaker 1: You remember today as the day you almost had a

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Speaker 1: You remember today is today that could have gotten Arch

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Speaker 1: but you paid Dak Prescott. So today David Mullagetta, who

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Speaker 1: that's how Jerry Jones referred it, the agent, the agent,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the part of this that needs to

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Speaker 2: And I took that personally. I saw, I saw the

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Speaker 1: And uh uh uh uh not no, no, not that

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Speaker 1: we told you when it happened. That's just Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: that's a far cry from we couldn't stand the guy.

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Speaker 1: even more it's Jerry Jones's fault because if you're telling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after watching what we just had with the

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Speaker 2: Nico and the organization had to wear that one for

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Speaker 2: how that went down, including the immediate parallel of this

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Speaker 1: It's times.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that timeline really sped up. We're not talking about

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Speaker 2: trading him. We're not doing this, okay, and now they're

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Speaker 2: open to offers Bam Packers contract announced.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know until after there's an entire

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Speaker 2: But that's thing like double Malfeasan's and malpracticed on that

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Speaker 2: I truly believe it, and I said it all the

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Speaker 2: way through that I really think Michael Parsons wanted to

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Speaker 2: in a in a weird spot with all those Oh

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Speaker 1: It's like, No, that's a guy that wants to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants he wants the business part of this

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Speaker 2: Right, It's like, how many games are we gonna win

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Speaker 1: He just you just couldn't control where he was gonna.

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Speaker 2: You just made it a bad narrative with the phone

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Speaker 1: Nothing is gonna make this look good. There's nothing, and

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Speaker 1: You can't take that back exit about a Fresca exit,

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Speaker 1: talking about not doing it. There's something up there, whatever

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00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 1: it is, and it could be personal, just the way

433
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 1: that Aaron Glenn doesn't like the way Aaron Rodgers carries himself,

434
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: doesn't like stories he heard or something from when Aaron

435
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers played against Aaron Glenn or played against a team

436
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: that Aaron Glenn coach. There is something there, right, maybe

437
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: when Aaron Glenn being the DC with with with the

438
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: Lions and I but there is something there because you

439
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: don't coaches don't blow off talk about another team's quarterback

440
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: like that unless there is something there.

441
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a long institutional memory. It's been

442
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: around the game a long time, played against and around

443
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 2: I mean countless people. I mean, we start doing the

444
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 2: Kevin Bacon game and connecting guys between the two of them,

445
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna have a lot of overlap. It's

446
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a pretty easy game. So for for

447
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn, I mean some of it is don't open

448
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: Pandora's box because it begets more questions. Right, It's like

449
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: the Jerry and Mulligana kind of conversations we've been having

450
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 2: for the last couple of weeks, Like, all right, as

451
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: soon as you go down here, now we've got an

452
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: extension there to why Bill Belichick, Greg Popovich, all these guys.

453
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: As much as you can be moaned, it's like, ah,

454
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: you need better bedside manor we need quotes. There's a

455
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: reason you don't give him, right because it begets other

456
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: questions and people start inferring things based on tone and

457
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: tenor and how brief I don't know, he only spoke

458
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: for eight seconds about him there as opposed to twenty

459
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: five seconds about that guy last week, Right, So you

460
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: just don't open that door and you just let it

461
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: be about the game.

462
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's other ways you could have talked about, Hey,

463
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: we know how great a quarterback he is. It didn't

464
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: work out for him here, but you know how smart

465
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: he is, calm plays that. There's many things you could say,

466
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: but it's like Aaron Glenn wants you to know that

467
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: there's something. There's a reason why I'm doing this.

468
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: Now, let's go back to the bringing him out there

469
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: to do it. And I know Rogers he took that personally,

470
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 2: and he's spoken about it that it's disrespectful to some degree.

471
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess Zoom and whatever would have sufficed.

472
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 2: But there is something to be being told in person. Now,

473
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Speaker 2: I get it. It's a fly.

474
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: It's across the three thousand mile flight to be told

475
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: we're not doing now. But I don't.

476
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: But I got to imagine there was a larger conversation

477
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: that spawned out of it. Versus a They walked in

478
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: and said, hey, we just need your key card. We

479
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: just wanted you to bring it back because maybe you

480
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: would mail it.

481
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean, but this is where. But here's the thing

482
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: is that yes, because it's all in how you take it.

483
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Because Aaron Rodgers could have come out and said, you know,

484
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: they wanted to do it to me in person, right,

485
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: they want to tell me in person if they wanted

486
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: to do that, data flown out to see him and

487
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: they would have or they would have told they would

488
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Speaker 1: have told his agent ahead of time. This is what

489
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: is going on. Does Aaron want to come in?

490
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Speaker 3: Do we want it?

491
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: Like you, you would say, hey, you're letting a guy go.

492
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: There was a quarterback for a couple of years. He

493
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: chose to go there, gave the Jets the line, but

494
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: don't you want the meeting? Right? Don't don't you want

495
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: the video of that? Come on? Give me that. As

496
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: a hardnock, I get that. It's it's all how you

497
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: would take you know. It's like when when if you

498
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: break up with somebody, are you okay if it's done

499
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: via text? Or would you want to be done face

500
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: to face? Some people would say no, just give me

501
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: the text. Don't make me go all the way out

502
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: to dinner that I don't want to go to and

503
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: break or say no, don't just send me a text.

504
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: You sit in me here, tell me face to face. Well,

505
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: especially if you break up in to dinner now, now

506
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: you gotta go have sees.

507
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: I mean that that's you don't know how that's going

508
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: to be taken. But the whole fact is that if

509
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: they wanted to do it, that there are ways they

510
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: could have done it. They could have gone out to

511
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: see they could have told his hey, and they decided, no,

512
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: we're just going to tell you that you're done. So

513
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: I know there's something there. Yeah, I know that's always business,

514
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: never personal. But it's contract. It's your livelihood, it's your

515
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: your ayahuasca or darkness retreat time or whatever else, your wife,

516
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: your relationship, whatever that you've got to take time off.

517
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: And let's face it, I mean, maybe he thought there

518
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: was going to be some sort of reconciliation in next

519
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: chapter there, that they'd figure it out, and then you're

520
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: you're cold.

521
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: You're you're cold, and so he didn't drag it out,

522
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: and maybe nearly as badly as as it was let

523
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: on right of Pittsburgh versus the Jets versus whatever, that

524
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: he thought he had the the Ason Hayes that he

525
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: was finally going to get in a year two now you.

526
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: Said the phrase right there, it's always business, never personal,

527
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: right personal with the Jets and there wonderful we get

528
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: the story at some point. But this is what Bill

529
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: Belichick did, and a story that came out today that

530
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: tells me even more he's not suited to college football

531
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: and he will fail. He doesn't get college football. And

532
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: this is kind of a fun story. New York Post

533
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: had a couple other places had it. A couple of

534
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: college football scouts and insiders were talking about how last

535
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: night before the game, Belichick put out a depth chart

536
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: with nobody on it. Right, Haha, here's Belichick doing his thing,

537
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: competitive advantage. Here's a depth chart with nobody on it.

538
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: Now it's Pete Thamil who also said, you know, hey,

539
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: brought this to everybody's attention. Scouts were kind of laughing

540
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: about it. Also said that Belichick restricted information about his

541
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: players with pro prospects. Okay, now you can do this

542
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL, because in the NFL you're a professionals.

543
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: It's your team. You're trying to figure out a way

544
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: to win. When that's all that matters is the w's

545
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard on a Sunday, That's what matters. Everybody

546
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: else is getting paid a lot of money. You're a professional,

547
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: you are here. You don't need to know that you're starting.

548
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Doesn't No one needs to know that. I can hide

549
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: injuries if I want to. That's the NFL. This is

550
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: college football where if you are a starter for North Carolina,

551
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: you have NFL future. You potentially have an NFL feud.

552
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: Now maybe it's a low round draft pick, maybe it's

553
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, but you're thinking, I might be able

554
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. I want to get into

555
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: a camp, And all Belichick is doing is hurting those players. Right,

556
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: You're not getting a competitive advantage by not putting out

557
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: a depth chart. But what you did? You hear the

558
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: scouts say no death chart, and the scouts were there

559
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: a lot of scouts there to see now more to

560
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: see TCU players. But hey, if a North Carolina players

561
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: jump off the page, that's great too. But you want

562
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: to know who you're watching, and you want to know

563
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: going in, Hey what players North Carolina do you have?

564
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: But Belichick is so secretive and about about his players

565
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: and no depth chart, making it hard for scouts to

566
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: look at his players and evaluate them and get them

567
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: ready for the NFL. Now, does this mean there's no

568
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: way they can evaluate North Carolina players know they would

569
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: look at tape. They were able to see that you

570
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: figure things out. But the bottom line is Belichick decided

571
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this petty game that I've played throughout

572
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: my career with the depth chart and not talking to

573
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: insiders or scouts about my players when that's a thing

574
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: that helps my players, that if I really have their

575
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: back and I know everything about I know things about

576
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: college football, I know, hey, I'm still in theory a

577
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: youth coach where these guys have helpes and dreams after

578
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: I coach them. You want to help them. You want

579
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: to make sure the players know they can trust you

580
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: by saying, hey, coach is gonna help me get to

581
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. All coaches are gonna say you want, I'll

582
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: help you get to the NFL. I know scouts, I

583
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: can talk to, I know people. I'll send your tape here,

584
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: I'll get someone to look at you here, I'll get

585
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: this happen. These are all things the players want in

586
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: college and this is Bill Belichick playing this petty game

587
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: where I did this in the NFL, when all he's

588
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: doing is hurting his own players. If I'm a North

589
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Carolina player. After that, I'm like, hey, coach, like you're

590
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: gonna help me, right, Like you're gonna help us get there.

591
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: I understand we're all trying to win, and I get it.

592
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: Number one thing is to win.

593
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: That.

594
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: I understand that. But you're not really getting a competitive

595
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: advantage by doing this. All you're doing is being salty

596
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: and playing petty games and trolling the media and scouts

597
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Because you did that in the NFL

598
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: for twenty five years and you love being the king.

599
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: That's all you've done now is hurt your players and

600
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: their future, and you get the players thinking coach doesn't

601
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: care about me. He's here for himself and doing his thing.

602
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: Maybe he gave him an assignment.

603
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: All right, press people, you figure out who the best

604
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: of our defensive tackles are and tell me who should

605
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: meet number one on the depth chartventure I just showed

606
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: us on campus. We gave you a North Carolina penn

607
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: and said, all right, you figure it out. You tell

608
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: me what you believe is the depth chart, and I'll

609
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 2: tell you if you're right.

610
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Jordan and I've been hanging out. I just saw the

611
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: team for the first time today, like the first time

612
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: at the walkthrough, and so we're just putting guys out there.

613
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: But we watch it at all levels, right of you know,

614
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: trying to help guide you know, from club sports, AAU

615
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, uh, to where your your

616
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: shepherd shepherding to that next phase. And for a college coach,

617
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: some of that is I get there's the uh fear

618
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: of poaching. Well, that's going to show up in the tape.

619
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: There's no hiding uh that Uh. For the college the

620
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: pro scouts that are showing up is Bill just still

621
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: bitter that he got excluded from that club and so

622
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: he's not gonna do anything to help them. But by

623
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: the same token, now he's hurting his players in terms

624
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: of their prospects. And you know, I don't expect him

625
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: to be opening the doors and suddenly giving our long

626
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: speeches to everybody like, you know, our cornerback has a

627
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: really good shot to be a big piece for you

628
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: as a nickelback or whatever, and go on through that

629
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: that process. I don't expect necessarily that you know, glowing

630
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: review time and again. But your your job's to help

631
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: and event you're gonna lose guys because of this because

632
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: they're not getting the support they need, which means transfer

633
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: portal is gonna be active with North Carolina guys who

634
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: are like I have no idea what coach is doing.

635
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: I may have bought into the overall vision in terms

636
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: of winning or whatever, but I still want to get

637
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: my shine because that means nil deals, that means opportunities,

638
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: and you know you're gonna have attrition one way or another.

639
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: This is only helping the transfer mode and pushing guys

640
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: into the portal that you probably want to retain. That

641
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor, Roy Williams and everybody that's sitting

642
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: and shows up that they're going to be more likely

643
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: to cut a check to keep those guys around than

644
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: the way you played it out here.

645
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: You can't just come in and say we're taking everything

646
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Speaker 1: we did in the NFL and doing it here and watch,

647
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Speaker 1: we're gonna blow the doors off of college football. It's

648
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Speaker 1: a different game. It's a different game, it's a different

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Speaker 1: way of coaching. The kids are different, the players are different,

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Speaker 1: how you your status with the players is different, and

651
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Speaker 1: everything is different. And Belichick does the average to show

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Speaker 1: up and do our thing, and boy with my knowledge,

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Speaker 1: and uh, and and and good players, we're gonna be great. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: not so much. I mean, and this is a small thing,

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Speaker 1: but it tells me that he's chosen his own, his

656
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Speaker 1: own desire to troll the media and scouts whoever else.

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Speaker 1: He's still playing this, this war against it. He that

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Speaker 1: he can't stand because he's not in the NFL anymore.

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Speaker 1: And only he's doing is hurting his players. And and

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Speaker 1: he had balloons. The balloons look nice though. It looked

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Speaker 1: like it looked like a prom or homecoming dance. And

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Speaker 1: and and it was it was, I mean, it.

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Speaker 2: Was a nice entry entry way, I mean, nice little

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Speaker 2: arc in the whole nine yards. But in the end, look,

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Speaker 2: they may still get to their eight and a half

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Speaker 2: over over underwing total. But off of that first game,

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Speaker 2: it's like Hoover looks like a superstar shredding the Belichick defense.

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Speaker 2: But now you go forward and it's like, wow, what

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Speaker 2: are what are we looking at here? How disastrous could

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Speaker 2: this possibly be? He passed uh Urban Meyer Urban from

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Speaker 2: the pro side, waving at him. Yeah, it didn't work

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Speaker 2: out so well for me up there? How's it coming

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Speaker 2: down to this level? Because you know, every one of

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Speaker 2: those guys wants to take him to the shed. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: at every point to say, oh, that's so easy down

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Speaker 2: here isn't.

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Speaker 1: Oh you thought you were gonna okay, let's see you

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Speaker 1: do it now, seeing that today destined to fail. Time

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Speaker 1: now to find out what's trending in the wide world

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Speaker 1: of sports. From someone who blew up every single balloon

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Speaker 1: at his junior prom without a machine. Really, it's Steve

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Speaker 1: de seger mung capacity. Still still tired, lad.

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Speaker 5: While we're talking football, Ohio State is number one in

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Speaker 5: the new college football polls, Penn State still number two,

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Speaker 5: LSU is up to number three in AP Then it's

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Speaker 5: Georgia at number five.

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Speaker 1: Miami.

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Speaker 5: The New England Patriots say wide receiver Stefan Diggs wheel

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Speaker 5: play in the Sunday opener against the Raiders. After last

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Speaker 5: year's torn ACL Buffalo is signing wide receiver Gabe Davis

691
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Speaker 5: to its practice squad after his knee injury last season.

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Speaker 5: Brown's running back Pierre Strong was waved from injured reserve

693
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Speaker 5: Veteran Whiteout Robert was granted his release from the Steelers

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Speaker 5: practice squad. The Texans gave backup quarterback Davis Mills a

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Speaker 5: one year extension. The Giants listed rookie quarterback Jackson Dart

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Speaker 5: as a backup to Russell Wilson. Jamis Winston is listed

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Speaker 5: as third string. The Bucks gave tackle Luke Gettike a

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Speaker 5: four year extension. Chargers running back Najie Harris practice fully

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Speaker 5: after a July fourth eye injury. The Chargers opener is

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Speaker 5: Friday night in Brazil against the Chiefs. Case Wide receiver

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Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown practice fully after an ankle injury. At the

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Speaker 5: US Open tonight, Novak Djokovic advanced to a Friday semifinal

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Speaker 5: against number two Carlos Alcarez, who also won today. Women's

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Speaker 5: number four Jessica Pagula won her quarterfinal. She'll next face

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Speaker 5: number one Arena Sablenka, who advanced when her opponent withdrew

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Speaker 5: with a knee injury. Venus Williams lost her doubles quarter

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Speaker 5: final tonight, sweat by the number one seeds. In the

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Speaker 5: WNBA Phoenix over Indiana eighty five seventy nine. Kaitlin Clark

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Speaker 5: still out with injuries. There's only a week left in

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Speaker 5: the regular season. Golden State won sixty six fifty eight

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Speaker 5: over New York and Hall of Fame College Basketball coach

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Speaker 5: George Raveling died at the age of eighty eight. The

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Speaker 5: late night ballgame went to Baltimore sixty two at San Diego.

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Speaker 5: The Padres are still two and a half games back

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Speaker 5: at the first place Dodgers in the NL West. LA

716
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Speaker 5: was beaten nine to seven at Pittsburgh despite Shoeo tani

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Speaker 5: forty sixth home run of the year. The Mets Pete

718
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Speaker 5: Alonso hit two solo shots. New York won twelve five

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Speaker 5: at Detroit, winning pitcher Young Nolan mcleain four and oh

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Speaker 5: Toronto got two home runs from George Springer and won

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Speaker 5: twelve nine at Cincinnati. The Blue Jays are first in

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Speaker 5: the AL East and still two and a half games

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Speaker 5: over the Red Sox and Yankees. Boston won eleven seven

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Speaker 5: over Cleveland with four runs in the bottom of the eighth.

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Speaker 5: Yankees were seven to one winners at Houston. Cubs four

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Speaker 5: to three over Atlanta. Milwaukee was idle. Tampa Bay won

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Speaker 5: ats fifth in a row, beating Seattle six to five,

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Speaker 5: even though cal Raley hit his fifty first homer Arizona

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Speaker 5: and did Texas six game winning streak five to three,

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Speaker 5: and San Francisco's back over the five hundred mark final

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Speaker 5: at Colorado. Giants have won nine of ten. Colorado's record

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Speaker 5: thirty nine and one hundred this season.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, I think the Broncos can win more

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Speaker 1: games than the Rockies this year. I think it's still

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Speaker 1: not mathematossible. You're going for forty. I think forty for

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Speaker 1: Bonicks this year. Forty for Bnicks. Yeah, he did have

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Speaker 1: about that in college.

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Speaker 5: You know he played for eight seasons.

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Speaker 1: I think, yes, he was a journeyman quarterback in college

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Speaker 1: and good. Nice to see him get this late in

741
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Speaker 1: career success with the Denver Broncos, his eighth team since

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Thank you, Steve. Though coming up next is

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Speaker 1: a big superstar about to come back and save their league.

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Speaker 1: Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 3: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 3: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: Hippie Kaye, Caitlyn Clark. Is she on her way back?

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Speaker 1: She didn't sound convincing. She was cleared for five on

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Speaker 1: oh practice which still means no contact. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Here's the question I'll ask the question for a lot

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Speaker 2: of folks out therehead, do they still miss the layup.

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Speaker 1: A couple couple? Look, and if you play five on, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win most of your games. Like I'm just

756
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Speaker 1: thinking you're gonna you're gonna at least get a couple

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: of buckets and that that should put it away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you score one to give you the lead, and another

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Speaker 1: one to say, okay, now that I'm really not coming

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Speaker 1: back because you never know when you can have an

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Speaker 1: own bucket, and that might that might hurt you get

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Speaker 1: that second one. Okay, you're not gonna get two owned

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Speaker 1: buckets in a game. So all right?

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Speaker 2: That did happen in a high school football game where

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Speaker 2: a guy started running the wrong way?

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Speaker 3: No keep going?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, she's cleared to be back at that level

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Speaker 1: of practice, but not cleared for contact yet. Now they

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Speaker 1: have three games left after tonight, and the season's ending soon,

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Speaker 1: we're getting ready for the playoffs, and who knows if

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Speaker 1: she's gonna come back and play it all this year.

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Speaker 1: Now here's a different take on her other than when

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Speaker 1: does she come back? Will she come back? And she

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Speaker 1: needs my advice on this because she has to absolutely

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Speaker 1: stop yelling at the officials in every game, going off

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Speaker 1: the bench, getting on the floor, getting in the official's

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Speaker 1: face and screaming. That's an awful optic for her. She

778
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Speaker 1: looks she looks like, she looks like she's just just

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Speaker 1: just I can't even say. She winds up looking whiny

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Speaker 1: and someone who just says, hey, I can do whatever

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Speaker 1: I want to because I'm Caitlin Clark. Like this is

782
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Speaker 1: a really big missta. She hasn't had a lot of

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Speaker 1: misteps because being able to come in and handle the

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Speaker 1: league and handle her business the way she has when

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Speaker 1: half the league hates her just because it's been tough.

786
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Speaker 1: But she's done that. But this, every time you look

787
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Speaker 1: at a Caitlin Clark story the last couple of months,

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Speaker 1: what's the accompanying video or picture, it's her on the

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Speaker 1: court screaming at an official. Their last game, not tonight,

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Speaker 1: the last game against the Sparks. Didn't like a foul

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Speaker 1: all that was made. And I get it, you don't

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Speaker 1: like foul calls that were made. Let the coach handle

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Speaker 1: it right. Let Stephanie White handle that. She has to

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Speaker 1: be pulled back from the official at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game because I want to get on the floor

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Speaker 1: and yell in the officials face. This is a really

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00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: bad optic for her. She doesn't look good coming off

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Speaker 1: of this. And that's the image. If you say, what's

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Speaker 1: the image of Caitlyn Clark from this year, the first

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Speaker 1: comes to mind is her on the floor screaming at

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Speaker 1: the officials. I'm Stephanie White, I'm the Fever. I say, Caitlyn,

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Speaker 1: where the coach. I love your passion, I love the U.

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Speaker 1: You really want to do this, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: You're not coaching. This is my job. Don't get a

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Speaker 1: technical foul, don't get us teed up in a game

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Speaker 1: where all of a sudden the refereese decided to do it.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe the Fever haven't talked her about it.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe she hasn't gotten teed up by by

809
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Speaker 1: any officials yet, who are allowing her to get on

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Speaker 1: the floor And yeah, that's normally that's a team man

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. Boo, I don't care who you are.

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Speaker 1: You're coming off the bench in street clothes. That's a tee, right,

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Speaker 1: you can't do that. But yet she has this where

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come on the Lauren do this because I'm

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark. This is a really big misstep for her man.

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Speaker 1: And again that's the jet Like when you think of

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Speaker 1: what you think of Caitlin Clark, everywhere you go, it's

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Speaker 1: it's the headshot of her with her with her hands out,

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Speaker 1: screaming at an official or pointing out an official and yelling,

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Speaker 1: and that's the image, that's the optic that is out

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Speaker 1: there of her. The last couple of months well.

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Speaker 2: Also had the by extension. We already had that when

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Speaker 2: she was playing, right that the reputation was every piece

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Speaker 2: of contact, where's my foul call? Berating officials, chasing them

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Speaker 2: down the court, like we'd already had that as a player.

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Speaker 2: So now you add that as a de facto coach

827
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Speaker 2: in these situations, not helping anything. No, And look, it's

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Speaker 2: the unfortunate. And I'd be curious the editorial choice to

829
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Speaker 2: go and make her look bad when you're giving an

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Speaker 2: update on her injury.

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Speaker 1: And it's her chasing after an official in street looks

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Speaker 1: pretty good, looks pretty good to make s pretty spry.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if if the official decides to, you know,

835
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Speaker 2: go in a zigzag pattern, like you know you're trying

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Speaker 2: to trying to evade any number of wild animals that

837
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Speaker 2: they always saying, go zig zag, don't run straight. They'll

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Speaker 2: be confused if they do that. I don't know what

839
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Speaker 2: her cutting ability is at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta watch out for that, but certainly at

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Speaker 1: this point the fact that editorially that has become the

842
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Speaker 1: de facto clip instead of her uh either getting injured, yeah,

843
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Speaker 1: or putting up shots or old b role or trying

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Speaker 1: to get even when they show her, Hey, Kaitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: back at practice, Kitlyn Clark doing this, The video was

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Speaker 1: her screaming at an official. We don't even know, Kaitlyn Clark,

847
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Speaker 1: let's go yeah all kind steps, gets off the bench

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Speaker 1: and screams all the time, yells at the official like,

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Speaker 1: you know, let the coaches do their job right. No

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Speaker 1: nobody else does that. Nobody else does that. You're injured,

851
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Speaker 1: you're have to get no, No NBA player does. Lebron

852
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Speaker 1: doesn't get off the bench and yell again get an

853
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Speaker 1: officials faces when the game is he's sitting out, he's

854
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Speaker 1: usually not with a team or he's having wine. But

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Speaker 1: you know he doesn't. I mean, you don't see players

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Speaker 1: do that. Come on, man, we're having wine. It's it's

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Speaker 1: in full circle. We started with Charles Woodson, now we

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