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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive on Bill Lolly with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: doing fresh shows and trying to give you some fresh

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Speaker 1: perspective on everything that's happening in Steeler Land. Uh. Since

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Speaker 1: we last met Matt, the Steelers have hired an offensive

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Speaker 1: over this simply because well, Mike Tomlin hired somebody off

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Speaker 1: of his staff. This is what I've got heard from people,

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Speaker 1: is oh great, so you hire a guy that helped

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Speaker 1: contribute to the line getting worse and nobody must want

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Speaker 1: to work with tom Lin. You know, no, nobody was

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Speaker 1: gonna wants to join this organization because they're a sinking

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Speaker 1: ship up and like it's all negative, like all negative

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Speaker 1: all the time, all the time. I mean, fans, get

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Speaker 1: a grip, you know, take a step back, be a

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Speaker 1: little more logical with it, and maybe Dale and I

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Speaker 1: to life. I hope that Adrian Clem has been here

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Speaker 1: for two seasons. Um, I don't know. In this season,

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Speaker 1: I didn't again, I don't know. I wasn't on the

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Speaker 1: him working with some guys, but I didn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I talked to some guys who are in the

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Speaker 1: He's he's a good teacher of men. That's what they need.

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Speaker 1: We were talking off the air. I mean, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: what do you know about Clem? You know? And I

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Speaker 1: knew this year was gonna be a wash, much like

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Speaker 1: the Matt Canada conversation that we don't see him out

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Speaker 1: Clem is. I didn't know this, but I liked hearing it.

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Speaker 1: And part of my recruiting background. You said he was

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Speaker 1: all I took away from that was he has to

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Speaker 1: He's talking to moms and dads and sixteen year olds

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Speaker 1: year at this time when they hired Matt Canada was woh, wow,

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Speaker 1: For Kevin Dotson's no offseason. No, you know, a different

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Speaker 1: even two years ago. You know, if you remember Villinuave

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Speaker 1: several years under Sean Coogler in Munchack. So you hire

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Speaker 1: So you want to teach her. Now you need a teacher,

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Speaker 1: You need a communicator. Wasn't that long ago that Clem

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Speaker 1: same to your point of hiring Surrett. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's also part of the Surreat problem is he's not

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Speaker 1: Munchak always always You never the guy. You never want

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Speaker 1: go to the Bear. I'm trying to who's the who's

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Speaker 1: the coach? He replaced Bear Bryant at Alabama. Yeah, it wasn't,

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Speaker 1: Switzer who won Super Bowls right after the guy left, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's in our building. And I'm sure I don't know

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Speaker 1: I bet he's happy about it, or you know, pouncing

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Speaker 1: last two years, and well they couldn't run the football.

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Speaker 1: Doss like, you're not the big voice in the room.

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Speaker 1: for every two players. That's too many. It's ridiculous. You

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Speaker 1: I don't. The Patriots doesn't surprise me. You know, in

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Speaker 1: to be around very long. No, you're not. You're not

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Speaker 1: not going to ignore your position. They're gonna get they're

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Speaker 1: I think it's silly, and I just think that a

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Speaker 1: does he come back and say, hey, I was the

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Speaker 1: best receiver in the league. I want to right, right right,

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Speaker 1: That's all part of it. The Bengals protect Joe Burrow.

427
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Speaker 1: We've talked about this at toime. I mean you have to. Yeah,

428
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Speaker 1: you almost have to spend like three draft picks this

429
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Speaker 1: year on on offensive lineman and that doesn't get your

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Speaker 1: defense better. No, Frankly, the I totally agree with this one.

431
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Speaker 1: But you have to protect your franchise quarterback, right, they can't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Burrow would have to be as good as

433
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Speaker 1: my homes for them to get in this Super Bowl

434
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: conversation like they're they're a long way away. But I

435
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: think this offseason has to be all about that goal.

436
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: And then next year we'll start filling in defensive pieces

437
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: or maybe you pick up a linebacker in free agency

438
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: or somebody that's steady. And again there in lies the

439
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: problem because now you're in the year three of Joe

440
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Speaker 1: Burr to pay him right, and it can't be a

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Speaker 1: three four year project. Yeah, that window is only open.

442
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: That's the only time I like to talk about quote

443
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Speaker 1: unquote windows in the NFL. You got a window when

444
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Speaker 1: you have that rookie quarterback. Yes, of cheap, top level

445
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: talent a quarterback, and it takes you a year to

446
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: know if he's good or not. Sometimes it takes a year,

447
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: like the homes they get on the field. As for

448
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: his rookie year, the week Josh Allen through the first

449
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: two years was like, Okay, is this guy any good?

450
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Speaker 1: He's good? Feels like that, you know, right, A lot

451
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: of them are like that. And then by the time

452
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Speaker 1: you realize they're good. You're gonna pay him, right right,

453
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: that's by the point that they can carry those around them.

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Speaker 1: The Browns, and I kind of disagree with this one

455
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Speaker 1: because I think they got bigger problems than this. The

456
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Speaker 1: Browns must find explosive pass catchers that would be secondary

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Speaker 1: for me. Absolutely, I gotta fix their defense. Give me

458
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Speaker 1: back seven dudes, give me linebackers and safeties and work

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Speaker 1: on that. I mean, it's Myles, Garrett and Ward and

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Speaker 1: the Pips. Yeah, I think, and and they're not if

461
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Speaker 1: it was the the Chiefs and you had that defense, Okay, okay, yeah,

462
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: they play with Garrett, and you know we wouldn't thirty

463
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: two to thirty Browns can't play that way with Mayfield, no,

464
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Speaker 1: no matter what. No, you're right, you're right. So, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: an explosive pass catcher, yes, it makes them a better team,

466
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't fix the defense. And then you're and

467
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, by getting more explosive pass catchers,

468
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Speaker 1: just say, Okay, Baker, you're gonna be the reason why

469
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Speaker 1: we win. I don't know if they want to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's who he is. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Beckham is back and they have one looming out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, they're problem. Their problem is is

473
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Speaker 1: that Higgins is also a free agent, so one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that will will line up opposite Jarvis Landry

475
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Speaker 1: next year. But then you don't I guess you have

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Speaker 1: people's jones to replace Higgins. I mean they are a

477
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Speaker 1: little white on receivers, I mean they are, but being

478
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Speaker 1: the field stretcher, you gonna run the ball that much,

479
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: you need somebody go over the top. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: Higgins will ever be that guy. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: that they had roll of dice on a doll for

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Speaker 1: one year. I don't know at this point in his career,

483
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Speaker 1: O'Dell is that guy anymore? He's been banged, he's been right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos must supplant Drew Lock. Yeah, like I had

485
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Speaker 1: somebody coming somebody say that to me that the Devin

486
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Speaker 1: Bush wasn't worth the picks that the Steelers sent to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos because the Broncos got uh fan Drew Lock.

488
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Speaker 1: And I can't remember who the other guy was. Something good? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who they took. I mean, that's depends

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Speaker 1: who Steels were taking. But right, but Drew Locked, like

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Speaker 1: I said, like, okay, so they got Drew Lock, big deal.

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Speaker 1: I remember at the time when they took him, and

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Speaker 1: it was with the bush pick. That's the perfect thing

494
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Speaker 1: you do. And we've done it in our mock drafts. Okay,

495
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna roll the dice on a high upside

496
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Speaker 1: guy when you have an extra pick that you didn't

497
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Speaker 1: account for, cool because if it hits, wow, you're swimming.

498
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Speaker 1: You're you're in great shape. If it doesn't, it doesn't

499
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Speaker 1: kill you. But what they did that killed them. And

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Speaker 1: I was really critical them this offseason. Why isn't Andy

501
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Speaker 1: Dalton a Bronco. I mean, I'm not talking about some

502
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: superstar to add you put all your all your apples

503
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: in the Drew Lock barrel. Right, Like, give me somebody

504
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: that's a fallback plan that I know can play in

505
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: this league. Give me Ryan Fitzpatrick, give me Dalton, give

506
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: me somebody in case this guy is not a total disaster.

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Speaker 1: You know they didn't do that. They did as long

508
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: as fangios there, they'll have a defense. The Texans they

509
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Speaker 1: got receivers to Yeah, there's yeah one Miller back and

510
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: you know, right, the Texans must must not trade the

511
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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson it's probably I just don't. I don't see

512
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Speaker 1: how you can do it, Like you just play hardball

513
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: with him and say, Sean, you're under contract. Yeah, you

514
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: know you're We've talked about that plenty. You're a corner

515
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: piece here. If you trade them, you're probably the worst

516
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Speaker 1: team in the league and a long way away from

517
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Speaker 1: being And he's not gonna he's not gonna get you

518
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Speaker 1: enough picks to make you better right away. Yeah, right,

519
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna pay all those guys together. I

520
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Speaker 1: was having this conversation on my podcast to like this,

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Speaker 1: ers are bad example woman to use them anyways, Like

522
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Speaker 1: if they were to make that deal, t J. Watt

523
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: has to be involved, or if if the Niners are

524
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: better one Niners would have to include Nick Bosa. Okay,

525
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: but if from the Texans and you give me Nick Bosa,

526
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay him in a year, you know, like

527
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be good when by the time we're

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Speaker 1: good necessary he may say he may say no, and

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Speaker 1: he may say that I don't want to be around

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Speaker 1: here for this right right, And then you have that

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Speaker 1: problem like that the Browns are facing you gonna have

532
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Speaker 1: all these first round picks coming up for the same year.

533
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Speaker 1: And if you hit, if you draft wonderfully, you're still

534
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna have a tough you're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: keep him. All right, it's brutale. The Colts must add

536
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback. Yeah, but that's that list is getting.

537
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: The list is getting. Um to me that the Stafford

538
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: trade killed them. I think it hurt them more than anybody,

539
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: more than anybody else because I could end up there. Well, yeah,

540
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: they will. They will not get watching in a division um,

541
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: and they don't have not to give up. There's some

542
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: rumors that possibly Derek Carr will get traded. That would

543
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: make some sense for them, But what are you gonna

544
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: have to give up to get their car? And is

545
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: that worth It's to me it's a good fit, But

546
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: is it going to be because I'm sure the Raiders

547
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: are gonna look at they go, well, like, this is

548
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: what they got for Stafford and a minimum. The Colts

549
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: are given up their first round pick, which makes two

550
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: years in a row. You don't have a first round

551
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Speaker 1: pick the other ones for the Forest Buckner and those

552
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: guys aren't super young anymore either. You know. I mean,

553
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Speaker 1: you've had this, I would be willing to bet is

554
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: probably going to cost you at least a second round

555
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: pick as well, I would think, because there's gonna be

556
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Speaker 1: other teams in the bidding. Yeah right, I mean, if

557
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: you're this is one of those situations where they may

558
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: have they may go into this like with no intent

559
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: of adding this guy and just bit it up just

560
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: to say we're not gonna let the Colts get him

561
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: for nothing, right, I mean, all of a sudden, I

562
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: didn't think this Domino would mean so much, but Stafford

563
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: gone and Goff basically now accust him. And I'm not

564
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: a big Goff fan, not that he's that big a deal.

565
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: But if you're the Pats Washington Chicago in the none

566
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Speaker 1: of an early pick, none of the resources to get Watson,

567
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: who's left, you know you probably can't get Wentz. Darnald

568
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: is far from the sure thing. Car looks pretty attractive,

569
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: And the problem for the Colts is it's kind of

570
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: the same problem, you know when people started talking about

571
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: the Steelers potentially trading for a top quarterback. Those other

572
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: teams all have picks ahead of you in the first Yeah,

573
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: the Cults are playoffs they're much more valuable. Yeah, exactly,

574
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: you had to add more. Then you have to add

575
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: that second first round pick, or you know, a second

576
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: and a third or something like that. You have to

577
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: sweeten the pup more than those other teams that Patriots do,

578
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: or somebody was on the outside looking and you know

579
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Right, Jacksonville must be right about Urban Meyer,

580
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: and I think it goes beyond that. But well, they

581
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: better be right about Urban mind. I mean some of

582
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: the coaches he's hired are kind of old school dudes too.

583
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure that there's a huge new

584
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: wave of creative thinking hitting that organization. I mean my

585
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: secondary thing was you better hit on a high percentage

586
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: your picks. Yeah, maybe Lawrence is that great elixir. I

587
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: mean he's the the odorant. He could be that type

588
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 1: of player and that'd be great make everything. Maybe if

589
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Meyer isn't the answer, he still look good. And when

590
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: eight games with that guy going forward, Yeah, it's a

591
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: nice advantage. They got a nice new asset. The Raiders

592
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: must find a pass rush. Yeah, defense in general is offful,

593
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: but starts with the pass rush. And I think that's

594
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Speaker 1: what Gruden might be thinking. Is if I can deal

595
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: car for a first and a second and I can

596
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: use that on defense and I trust Mariota, which I

597
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you trust Mariota or not, but if

598
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: that's the logic, if they're both a B in my opinion,

599
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: I can only play one of them, and I can

600
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Speaker 1: build a defense with the picks. And well, they better

601
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: get it right though, because I mean, this is the

602
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: same team that took Clellen Farrell fourth overall, right, fourth overall. Yeah,

603
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: you had a chance to get a premium pass rusher

604
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: last year and he took Farrell. And people might not

605
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: realize this, but Gruden is the Belichick's are. I mean,

606
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: everyone knows who Mike Mayock is because they've seen him

607
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: on NFL Network, But Gruden's the GM there, right. Yeah,

608
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers must prove me wrong about Joe Lombardi. Wow,

609
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: you don't like Joe Lombardio. It doesn't like Joe Lombardi. Uh.

610
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: He was the offensive coordinator in Detroit in two thousand

611
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen. Um had to defend himself against accusations are

612
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: predictability whatever you know, Um, but it is heavy Saints ties.

613
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Speaker 1: I mean I like that part. I mean, I don't

614
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: know the man, but I mean he inherits a pretty

615
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: good group of quarterbacks and pass catchers in l A. Yeah,

616
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins must charger defense is gonna be really good,

617
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: but should be, uh assuming they can stay healthy. And

618
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: they had to prove that. The Dolphins must get to

619
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: uh Tagliabola more weapons. Yeah, and that includes that was

620
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: maybe the worst. Then they must convince him to use

621
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Speaker 1: them and his play aside and I'm not I have

622
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: I have concerns about two If we were drafting quarterbacks,

623
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't be on my team. But one year ago,

624
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about is his hip ever gonna be okay

625
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: for the opening day? And I know Burrow and Herbert

626
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: erase this, but no preseason, no mini camps, you know,

627
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how healthy is he? Is it? A year

628
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: away from recovery, he starts to look like himself. Maybe

629
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: the worst running game in the league. And the weapons

630
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: are okay, you know, I mean, so I bet it

631
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: looks different next year in Miami. Yeah, I would think so.

632
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: And they've got some you know, DeVante Parker is not Yeah,

633
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: so there's some pieces there. The Patriots see Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: and his personnel losing streak. Wow, that's bold to say.

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Speaker 1: It's right, he's not been good. He's not been good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not been good. Go to their drafts and look at

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Speaker 1: the last you know, not just their draft. I mean

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Speaker 1: this another goes back to anything that that um was

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Speaker 1: brought up on the piece that I wrote over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers need to be more like the Patriots. Ravens

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Speaker 1: and I can't remember who the other team was. They

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Speaker 1: supplement their their drafts through the through free agency like well,

643
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Speaker 1: so do the Steelers. And if you look at it,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have drafted much better than the Patriots. Take

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Speaker 1: you again, you take Tom Brady off of that team. Right, ever,

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Speaker 1: seven and nine a year ago, they won eleven games.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the worst roster in the league or

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Speaker 1: right in competition with including the opt out. It's devoid

649
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Speaker 1: of talent. It's devoid of talent. I mean, they don't know,

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Speaker 1: and that's because Belichick's been a poor drafters. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no way around it. The Jets make the Texans

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00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: an offer they can't refuse. I don't know that makes

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Speaker 1: them just adding to Shaun Watson to that Jets team

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Speaker 1: does not make them, because it's gonna cost you several picks, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: cost you three, or it's gonna cost you too, and

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Speaker 1: probably next year and maybe even a year after that,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that that and probably Donald as

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Speaker 1: a kicker, probably, or you trade him somewhere else and

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Speaker 1: you gotta pay. I mean, I love DeShawn Watson and

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Speaker 1: he would be a great building block for the Texans

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Speaker 1: or Jets or whoever. But I can't imagine that Jets

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Speaker 1: being a competitor it certainly this year, maybe even a

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Speaker 1: year from now. I mean, is it gonna be two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty three that Watson finally has enough around him?

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Speaker 1: If you hit on everybody, and can you stay upright? Uh?

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00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: The Titans must get Mike rabelmore help on defense. The

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00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: past stinks, it's awful. It's the worse in the league.

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Speaker 1: But now I don't know if they can they can

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Speaker 1: lean on the offense like they used to. You lose

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Speaker 1: a top notch coordinator, cot your second and third pass

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Speaker 1: catchers or free agents in Smith and Davis. I love

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Speaker 1: a J. Brown, and I love Henry. Henry's not gonna

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Speaker 1: last round? How much? How much longer do you have

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Speaker 1: Henry that's you know, I mean, you're o lines a

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Speaker 1: little big and heavy and old, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: the first one I pick didn't really work out. I

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Speaker 1: might be selling Titan stock right now. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just that that is a stainable um. And I

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Speaker 1: have a lot of appreciation for Tannehill, but he's not

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Speaker 1: a Tier one guy. He's also thirty three. He's not

681
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: like he's a spring checking two. But that's it for

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Speaker 1: the Rosenthal's an f C. I again, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that when you look at that. Yeah, the Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Yeah, but I don't know if the Steelers

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Speaker 1: fixes are something that they can't do. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good exercise we just did, because we just laid out,

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Speaker 1: you know, every team in the league and all the

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00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: stuff that's wrong with them in some degrees. Are the

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Speaker 1: Steelers any worse than the other ones? Not really, a

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00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: lot of people around here seem to think so. But

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Speaker 1: they need to take a look at the league as

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Speaker 1: a whole, not just their team. Buffalo is a team.

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Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, it's hard to find things wrong

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Speaker 1: with them right now. I mean, and you like the

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00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: Colts roster, but it's but if they don't have a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of a big deal. They also need a

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Speaker 1: left tackle and their part and corns. I mean they

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00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: have three big holes. They don't have many holes, but

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00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: they have big ones and they've got cap space. But

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Speaker 1: who's letting the left tackle? But like, are they gonna

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Speaker 1: go out and sign Alejandro Villa in Aueva? Maybe? Maybe? Maybe? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know, Steeler fans just saw that. Is that do?

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Speaker 1: Is that the answer? I mean, you could draft a

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Speaker 1: dry saw or any of these tackles we talk about,

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00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: but not if they not a quarterback. Yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: line up Jacoby Brissett, who's not even under contracting the cost.

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Speaker 1: So you know it could be that that situation. Yeah,

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00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: so everybody, everybody has problems. That's that's who's the best

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Speaker 1: team in that division? Well, we know who it's not.

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00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: We know it's not Houston and we know it's not Jacksonville. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's probably the Colts and they don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: On a quarterback, I mean, I could see the Colts

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Speaker 1: and Titans potentially going backwards. Yeah, I mean they could

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Speaker 1: find a quarterback that didn't doesn't play as well as

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Speaker 1: rivers did this year, right, you know, I mean if

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Speaker 1: it's darn order who I don't know, and there's there's

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Speaker 1: nothing that says. You know, a lot of times those

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Speaker 1: those transitions to a new quarterback don't necessarily go real

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Speaker 1: well the first year, right right, right, you know, it

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Speaker 1: takes a while. Right, So now you're what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna go over that redraft

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Speaker 1: of the of the twin twenty draft and find out

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Speaker 1: where Chase Claypool winning that we do that right after

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Speaker 1: this your tunes about drive on Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. We are back. I'm d

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Speaker 1: l l E here with Matt Williamson and the NFL

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Speaker 1: ESPNS NFL Nation, which is all their ESPN went through

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Speaker 1: and redrafted for actually the first two rounds of last

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Speaker 1: year's raft, which that's a project. That's a project because

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Speaker 1: you can't pick somebody that's already been picked, even if

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Speaker 1: that's the guy your team picked, so you have to

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Speaker 1: figure out somebody else. So you're actually doing essentially redoing

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Speaker 1: the draft. There's several ways to do this, and I

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Speaker 1: haven't looked at it yet. I saw the headline, but

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Speaker 1: I've done it before. Are they picking the same order

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Speaker 1: that the draft was? Then? I believe so, Like since

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Speaker 1: his first Washington's too. I think that's the way you

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Speaker 1: have to do it, and you know what you know now,

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Speaker 1: But there is a little bit of a back to

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Speaker 1: the future effect to you know, like I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: made this move, and you can't look at it that way.

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Speaker 1: I think you gotta look at it like, if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, what I trade Burrow for any rookie this year?

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Speaker 1: So they have the Bengals picking first, taking Joe Burrow Again,

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Speaker 1: do you gotta take Herbert? I love Burrow? But they

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Speaker 1: have Washington picking second. They take Herbert. Yeah, with all

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Speaker 1: respect to Chase Young, who's awesome, he's on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Then then the Lions, instead of taking Jeff a coup

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Speaker 1: to take Chase Young. For sure, they would trade make

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Speaker 1: that trade. And the heartbeat right now. The Giants picking

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Speaker 1: four took Andrew Thomas. They have them taking Tristan Worfs.

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Speaker 1: I would too, I think worse as a special player um.

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Speaker 1: If I could take any offensive lineman in the league

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Speaker 1: right now, with age considered, I take worse. At five,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins took to Ah They still have the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: taking to h Okay. I mean he's a quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't take Hurts, you know, I'm just

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Speaker 1: taking it right. I would take two over Hurts. I

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Speaker 1: would be reluctant to make that pick right there. There'll

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Speaker 1: be some other guys that I would look at their right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you taking a Justin Jefferson or somebody

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Speaker 1: like that over him? Well, then you're in the QB

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Speaker 1: market right now. Yeah. It's six. The Chargers of course

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Speaker 1: took Herbert He's not available, so they take Jeddrick Willis.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, they could use a tackle for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's I would take back then over Wills, I would

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Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. At seven, the Panthers took Derek Brown.

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Speaker 1: They would still take Derek Brown. I guess that's fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At eight, how much I'd take Breck Brown. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they don't really need it, but Justin Jefferson or one

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Speaker 1: of these revers is pretty good. At eight, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: took Isaiah Simmons. They have them taken Ceedee Lamb instead. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand that over Justin Jefferson. That's the thing, that's

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Speaker 1: the question. I could see them taking a receiver, and

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Speaker 1: I think they really need to find one more pass catcher.

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Speaker 1: And that really helped Kyler Murray. But Justin Jefferson has

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Speaker 1: had fourteen hundred yards and he hardly played in the

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Speaker 1: first two games. Nine, the Jaguars took C. J Henderson.

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Speaker 1: They take Justin Jefferson. Sure, and I guess, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the back of the future effect. You wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have had Laviscus. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you can look at that way. But at ten, the

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Speaker 1: Browns took Jeddrick Willis. He's not available. They take McKay Beckton.

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Speaker 1: I think they actually upgraded. I think they would have

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Speaker 1: gotten better if yeah, back then might be my second

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Speaker 1: choice alignment league. At eleven, the Jets took McKay Beckton

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Speaker 1: that he's not available. Now they take Chase Claypool over Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Jefferson is already gone. That's a teas the third receiver

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Speaker 1: off the board. Where Jefferson Jefferson went to Jacksonville, right,

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Speaker 1: he would be my third receiver. To Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so he goes from being a second round pick in

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Speaker 1: the eleventh receiver taking in the draft to the eleventh

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Speaker 1: overall pick. Yes, Okay, here's the question for you. Like

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Speaker 1: Ruggs was the first receiver taken, I wouldn't consider Rugs

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Speaker 1: and I don't I wouldn't be investing in Rugs right

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Speaker 1: now period. Judy was my favorite at the time, and

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Speaker 1: I still have really high hopes. Like if the Broncos

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Speaker 1: called Kevin Colbert up and said, we'll give you Judy

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Speaker 1: for Claypool, I don't know, Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's he's still pretty alluring. It's allowing

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Speaker 1: the contracts cheaper, contracts cheaper. Yeah, and they I mean

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. Deonte is a lot like Judy. Claypool's like

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Speaker 1: nothing else, right, know what I mean. He's a different

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Speaker 1: He's a difference maker. Yeah. At twelve, the Raiders took

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Speaker 1: Henry Ruggsy, they instead take Kenneth Murray. Okay, yeah, Murray's great,

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Speaker 1: But Okay, at thirteen, it was, uh, the forty Nights

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Speaker 1: just coming from Indianapolis. The original pick was Christian Worst.

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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay traded up for that instead. They take

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Speaker 1: Brandon ayuok thirteenth who they took Tampa Bay original pick

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Speaker 1: was this was from San Francisco. Made this pick Javon

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Speaker 1: Kinlaw the defensive tackle. Instead they take Antoine Winfield. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Winfields a sec best defensive player in this draft.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos took Jerry Judy at fifteen. They still take Jerry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the drops are the only thing. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Falcons, they original pick was a j. Terrell. Instead

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Speaker 1: they take Isaiah Simmons. Maybe. One thing that's interesting to

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Speaker 1: me though, is a Kuda. Yeah, like did he do?

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Speaker 1: Here's the thingie from rookie cornerbacks struggle and this year

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Speaker 1: they were horrible because the league through like crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in your pat you're in a league where they pass

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Speaker 1: at you and if you're a rookie they throw at

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Speaker 1: you constantly. Yeah right, yeah, I mean the the Terrell

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Speaker 1: kid they took actually was okay. Acuda wasn't terrible. Like

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't drop my grade on Accuda that much after one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a third pick in the draft, right for

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Speaker 1: a reason. For a reason, right, the Cowboys took Ceedee

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Speaker 1: lamb Uh. They now take Treyvon Diggs, who was their

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Speaker 1: second round again over Accuda, over Henderson. Know about that.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins took Austin Jackson offensive tackle. This with the

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Speaker 1: pick from the Steelers they got for making Fitzpatrick. Their

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Speaker 1: new pick is now Andrew Thomas. It was the fourth pick.

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Speaker 1: One you're probably upgrade there. Yeah. The Raiders, Uh, this

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Speaker 1: will pick from Chicago and the uh trade for Mac.

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Speaker 1: They took Damon Arnett. Their new pick is Henry Ruggs,

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Speaker 1: who they took get him? Yeah, so much much fair enough. Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: this will pick from the Rams. They took Cleveland Chason instead,

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Speaker 1: they take Jalen Johnson for them. Yeah, it was a

840
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: nice you know later picked that the Bears had. The

841
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: Eagles took Jalen Reagor last year. Instead they take c. J. Henderson. Fine,

842
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, at least you know more about Henderson. And

843
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to kick dirt on Regor though. Twenty

844
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: two the Bills, I'm sorry this came from the Bills.

845
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: That pick came from the Bills. It was Minnesota took

846
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. He's now off the board. They took te

847
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Higgins instead. Higgins is pretty good. Yeah, I think the

848
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Higgins would go earlier than that in the real world,

849
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: but fair enough. The pay Tree, it's actually twenty three

850
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: is the Patriots spot. The Chargers traded up to this

851
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: spot until Kenneth Murray. And the new pick here is

852
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin. Chin was really good too. Yeah. Chin and

853
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons are like the same guy. One was a

854
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: lot cheaper than the other. The Saints not main defenders.

855
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: It was like three or four defenders. The Saints took

856
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: Caesar Louise uh. Instead they take jeff A Kuda. That's

857
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: a nice bargain three starts for Yeah, he would be

858
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: a first round pick in my opinion. And the Saints,

859
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gladly. Yeah. If you said you could

860
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: have the Bird in the hand or door number two,

861
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: I bet to just take Ruise. The original pick was

862
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: Brandon Aouke. San Francisco traded up to get him with

863
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: the Vikings. The new pick is a J. Terrell going

864
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: to the Vikings. Yeah right, he's been He was a

865
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: good rookie. Yeah. Miami. The original pick was by Green Bay.

866
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: This is where they took Jordan's Love. Miami instead takes

867
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, it's pretty nice. Yeah, life a lot easier. Yeah,

868
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: would he definitely be your back over Swift and Dobbins.

869
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: And for me it's yeah, it's arguing. Yeah, I think

870
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: I'd take ta Probably Seattle took Jordan Brooks. Yeah, that

871
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: never made sense. The pick is still Jordan Brooks. He

872
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: was okay, fine, they have kJ Wright and they have Wagner.

873
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: I know those guys are up in age, but you

874
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: couldn't find a pass rusher. It wasn't somebody better the Yeah,

875
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't add up. That's just lazy by the writer.

876
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: They maybe and maybe maybe buddies with Jordan Brooks. Um.

877
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: The Ravens took Patrick Queen. They still take Patrick Queen. Fine,

878
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: he had his rookie learning curve. Yeah, but you can

879
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: run in heead. The Titans took Isaiah Wilson. Yeah, instead

880
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: they take Cleveland Jason. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's they

881
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: would make that trade to heartbeatright, absolutely right, And I

882
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: don't even love Jason. The Packers the original pick this

883
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: was by Miami because Green Bait traded up. They took

884
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: Igbo and Hannay. Then of the Miami took the new

885
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: The new pick here by the Packers is Jalen reagor

886
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: they'd look good in Green Bay. We would look yeah, uh,

887
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: forty Niners. This was a Minnesota's pick. They took Jeff

888
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: Gladney with that pick. Instead they take Jevan kin Law.

889
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: That's a nice discount bargain. Yeah, I think step on

890
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: to it when you think of kin Law. Yeah, that's

891
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: kind of what he is. It might take a year,

892
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: but look out. The Chiefs took at thirty two Clyde

893
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire again. Instead they take Lagarius Sneed, who they

894
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: got in the fourth round. Yeah, he's been really good

895
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: for them. Somebody to watch them. Yeah, he's the lowest

896
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: drafted guy that went in the first round. Big, I

897
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: mean he's a good player. Yeah. Moving on down to

898
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: where the Steelers picked, Uh, actually took um Chase Claypool.

899
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: The original pick, of course was Claypool at forty nine. Instead,

900
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: the Steelers take J. K. Dobbins because wasn't available, right,

901
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Claypol's gone real quick, can you just rattle I don't

902
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: care where they went, use rattle off the names. In

903
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: the second round before the Cedars picked, Yeah, real quickly

904
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: here before we have to go back to a break,

905
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: it was uh Laviska Chennault, Michael Pittman, DeAndre Swift, Xavier McKinney,

906
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love, Clyde Edwards, Hilayer Panthers, Austin Jackson goes to

907
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: the Dolphins again. Cameron Danceler goes to Tech. The Texans, Uh,

908
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: the Browns get Grant delpitt Um, Julian Blackman goes to

909
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Co Commet stays with the Bears. The Colt

910
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 1: Steak instead, Jalen Hurts Uh Tampa Bay gets Michael on Awayu,

911
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: the guy from the New England. kJ Hamler still goes

912
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: to the Broncos. Ezra Cleveland goes to the Falcons. Antonio

913
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: Gibson to the Jets. Yeah, I have much problem with that,

914
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: but I would take J. K. Dobbins over Antonio Gibson.

915
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, and yeah, be real happy with with

916
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: Dobbins as a consolation prize. I wasn't. Absolutely. Let's take

917
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lilly. You're

918
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. When we

919
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: come back, it's time to do our draft. Here draft again.

920
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: We'll do that right after this. He's the Drive with

921
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your Home of the

922
00:48:25,520 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. We are Facts on

923
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: Lay with Matt Williamson and we have course it's time

924
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: for our our little got a draft simulator here on

925
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: Pro Football Network, and uh, we've got we've I've already

926
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: run through the first portion of the first round. Pick

927
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: twenty four is up, the picks right ahead of us.

928
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Steeler fans aren't gonna be happy about some of this.

929
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Travis a t n w at eighteen. I'm fine with that,

930
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: but then it pushes the running backs. Could scrat that

931
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: ball rolling too high. Christian dry saw when at nineteen

932
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: he would be a target. Elijah Vera Tucker went at twenty,

933
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: Alex Leather would win at twenty one. Uh, then Rashawn

934
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: Slater went at twenty two. I mean this is just

935
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: a total run, and then naj Harris went at twenty three.

936
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: I hope somebody's offering us something I don't like the

937
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: sound of that. Well, we have offers good because running

938
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: backs off the board already to running backs and a

939
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: whole bunch of offensive linemen right right before. Doesn't shock

940
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: me that those linemen are gone. But they teased us

941
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: with still being there five picks ago, and now they're yeah.

942
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: Now it's just this is this is what sometimes happens

943
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, you see these runs. So

944
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: we're sitting here now. The top offensive tackle available with

945
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: Samuel cos Me out of Texas. I don't really like

946
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't love him yet. I don't think he's worth one.

947
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins is available out of Oklahoma State. He's been

948
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: mocked this heals a lot, and I like him better.

949
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is available, the quarterback out of Alabama. I

950
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: don't know if I would go that route. I don't

951
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there, to be honest, but I'm

952
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: not sure i'd go that route either. So we've got

953
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: some trade offers. New Orleans is on the phone. They

954
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: want to offer us picks, so we're only moving back

955
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: for spots and sixty for picks twenty four and one two.

956
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: I would say yes to that in a nutshell, but

957
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm curious what else is out there. Our next offer

958
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: comes from Green Bay. They're offering us pick twenty nine

959
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: and pick two, so we're only moving back five spots

960
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: and we get a much better Yeah, we're getting like

961
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: that better in New Orleans. Four picks twenty four and

962
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's not bad. So that's actually a better Dan.

963
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: And finally, the Texans are on the phone. The Texans

964
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: don't have a first round draft pick. Yeah much, right right.

965
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have a second round draft pick.

966
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they did. So the Texans are offering

967
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: us pick sixty seven, which is their third which is

968
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: their third round pick, pick one oh three, which is

969
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: another pick in the fourth round, and another one a

970
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: pick one sixteen. So we get three picks this year,

971
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: Houston's second round draft pick, which might be which might

972
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: be the first overall pick in the in the second round,

973
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: and the third round draft pick four picks two and

974
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: two twenty one. Now, that would be a long time

975
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: to sit and wait. But you can also trade up.

976
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: It would be you could. You have all kinds of

977
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: ammunition to trade up, but you have to find the

978
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: right trade partner that takes work, that takes it. And

979
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: you also can use next round next year's picks to

980
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: get to where you need me this year. I don't

981
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: know that. I mean in real life, that would make

982
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I think it really it doesn't

983
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: help your team this year as much though here I

984
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: probaly shouldn't say is in the radio. I would take

985
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: that and say kind of punt for this year, that

986
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: this is our version of a rebuild year. We're gonna

987
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: take a lot of picks. They're gonna be later hopefully

988
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: we hit on them, and then next year, with all

989
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: of our cap space and all of our picks, we're

990
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: right back at it, you know, like as a contender boom,

991
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, take one little step back to take two forward.

992
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: But for the purpose of us picking now, I think

993
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: we tell them, no, I think you take the Packers deal.

994
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: I like the Packers deal. Yeah, um, twenty four and

995
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: to one again that that offer from the Saints was

996
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: eight and sixty in because because you opened this by saying,

997
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: these are the guys that just went so there's not

998
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: somebody I'm even like keeping my fingers crossed. We're getting

999
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: a first and a third for uh just look at

1000
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: we're getting there first and heard around pet draft picks

1001
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: for our first and seventh or yeah, first and seventh.

1002
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: We moved down five spots to move down five spots,

1003
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: and really, if you look at what just happened there,

1004
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: there's nobody. Yeah, there's uh you can probably move back

1005
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: and get a you know, Kevin Jenkins back again, right right, right, right,

1006
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: Let's do it, and we could counter and try to

1007
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: get something a little thrown in, but I think we

1008
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: just do it. It's just okay, it's been accepted. We're

1009
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: back to the sim So they took instead, they took

1010
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 1: a twenty four Darius Tony makes sense, so that wasn't

1011
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: that didn't affect us. Uh. Tevin Jenkins actually went twenty

1012
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: five though, to the Jaguars. Samuel Cosmi went twenty six

1013
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: to the Browns. It's weird because they just I mean,

1014
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: they've got tags. They wouldn't take attack. Trevor Mowering the

1015
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: safety out of a TCU went to twenty seven and

1016
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: his ease and which age guy went to, Uh, the Titans.

1017
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: That makes our pick is now up and the Panthers

1018
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: are on the phone. Okay, Panthers are offering us, Uh,

1019
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: they wan't pick twenty nine in our round draft pick.

1020
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: Possibly they're offering pick thirty nine, their second round draft

1021
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: pick for next year and their third round draft pick

1022
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: for two Wow, it's a lot. That's a lot to

1023
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: move back to spots. The Chiefs are on the phone

1024
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: the Chiefs want to offer us pick thirty two and

1025
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick in two for pick twenty nine.

1026
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: Straight up, Yeah, I don't love that. Washington is also

1027
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: on the phone. How about this deal. Washington is offering

1028
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: us pick fifty one and their two first round draft pick,

1029
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: the future first, for the twenty nine pick and our

1030
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: third round pick. I'd say yes to that. They could

1031
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: win a division, or they could be five and eleven. Yeah,

1032
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: let me let me uh, let me see what's still

1033
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: available though, if there's somebody, I got a feeling I

1034
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: know why they're offering their first round pick because Matt

1035
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: Jones is still available. They want to move up for

1036
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Also still available, Zaven Collins and Nick Bolton,

1037
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: the two linebackers. But that doesn't It doesn't Jalen Mayfield,

1038
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle. He's good. He's a good football player.

1039
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: I could see taking him there. Um, remember the running

1040
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: backs are picked over here a little bit. Top two

1041
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: are gone. So if we make this deal, then we don't.

1042
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: We might not get her. We might not get a

1043
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: running back to help us. We're not going to get

1044
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle who's gonna help us. I was gonna say,

1045
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: if we don't make any deals. I'm probably leaning towards

1046
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Davante Williams, which is a little early for him now.

1047
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: But two are gone, and you know, I wouldn't mind

1048
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: trading back a little bit, but I don't want to

1049
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: move to first make me happy, though they do make

1050
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: you happy. I just wonder if we can get them

1051
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: to throw something else in here. I mean, I'm going

1052
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: to reject the Panthers deal, even though that's not a bed.

1053
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: If we give them mac Jones, he's probably gonna start

1054
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: for them and lose a lot of games. You root

1055
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: against Washington all year. You know, I'm going to reject

1056
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers deal, even though that's that's thirty nine a

1057
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: second round pick in a third round pick for twenty

1058
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: nine in our third round pick. Rejecting that, I'm gonna

1059
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: reject the Chiefs deal. Yeah, last pick in the fourth

1060
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: round next year isn't or something thirty or you know,

1061
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: so pick fifty one in Washington's first I'm gonna counter that, Like,

1062
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: what can they give us? Uh, we're giving them a

1063
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: third round pick in this deal as well. They're giving

1064
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: them from the sixth of the fourth or sixth somewhere

1065
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: later in that wouldn't mind getting another pick in this

1066
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: drat this year or something like that. They've got seventy

1067
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: and eighty two, one of those would be appealing to me.

1068
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: What's our next pick after we got twenty ninety eight

1069
00:56:54,600 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: seven nine two, so we could right now we're getting

1070
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: four picks in the top one. I wouldn't mind trying.

1071
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get them to take one two,

1072
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: all right, that will get five picks then in the

1073
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: top one and a first round pick next year. Right,

1074
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: all right, I'll be all over that. They declined that. Okay,

1075
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: what if we even gave him ninety two for eighty

1076
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: two or let's see here, um, or if I go yeah,

1077
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: if I go ninety two? Wan, Yeah, that was declined. Ye,

1078
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: you're being playing hardballer. Let's counter would be enough for men? Yeah?

1079
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: Because fift I mean we're getting a first round pick.

1080
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: I get it. That's you know, that's awesome. But they're

1081
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: getting our third round pick. That's two years and rows

1082
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: taters on the first round pick, and then you have

1083
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: two next years though you get two next year. Yeah.

1084
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: That and we were bringing a lot of Day two

1085
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: guys with this. What if I do this? What if

1086
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: I go with our second round pick instead of the third,

1087
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: because we're getting the first back next year, I offer

1088
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: them one twenty two for eight two. So our our

1089
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: side of the deal is the first round pick for sure,

1090
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: the second round pick next year, which we're still upgrading there,

1091
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: and we get fifty two in Washington's first next year back.

1092
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: I bet they say, yes, it is. It's been accepted.

1093
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: All right, so we're they and they did. They did

1094
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: take Matt Jones. That makes sense. Yeah, fair enough. Okay,

1095
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: Now I think we have to pick. We got fifty

1096
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: one and fifty five here, we got all we gotta act.

1097
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: I think Williams is there. Let's look at centers, tackles,

1098
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: and running backs. We've only got one trade offer heres

1099
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: from San Francisco. It's for fifty one for pick ninety

1100
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: six and the second and third round draft. That sounds great,

1101
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: but it's time to add. We gotta add some talent. Okay.

1102
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: So here's what's available. Baron Browning, the linebacker out of

1103
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Need ad offense. Uh Davian Nixon still available.

1104
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Big defensive tackle, UH Creed Humphrey available. Um let me

1105
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: see here. Javante Williams is still available. I think you

1106
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: gotta take him, Yeah, because there are there are still

1107
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: other We gotta pick a fifty five. We have another

1108
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: pick coming up, a fifty five coming up. We'll be

1109
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: able to get our set. Yeah. To me, he's clearly

1110
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: the third back. San Francisco is back on the phone again.

1111
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: They want to offer this that's basically not quite the

1112
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: same deal, but they want ninety six for fifty five,

1113
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: the second round draft pick in the seventh round draft pick.

1114
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: The Giants are also on the phone. The Giants want

1115
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: to offer us pick one ten, their second round draft

1116
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: pick next year, in their fourth round draft pick next

1117
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: year for fifth round draft pick and pick. I'm rejecting

1118
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: that we got, but we have plenty for next year. Okay,

1119
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: So here's what we got. Um, this has to be

1120
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Has to be an offensive lineman and

1121
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: the best I available, um Deante Brown. I'm not interested

1122
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: in the big guard. Creed Humphrey still available in uh

1123
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Dylan Raddon's North Dakota State offensive tackle from North Dakota

1124
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: State potentially free might be a starter, though where ratings

1125
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: isn't now. Quinn Miners still available. What's your Humphrey versus

1126
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: Miners conversation. That's a tough one. That's a tough one.

1127
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: I'd probably go for Humphrey, but you could wait. You

1128
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: could wait. You could take a tackle and see if

1129
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: you can slide Miners. Our next pick is up at

1130
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: we pick again at eight two. Do we think Miners

1131
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: will last to eighty two? I I don't, probably not.

1132
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that he does. So I think, right here,

1133
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: you take Humphrey. Yeah, let's do that, like you'd be

1134
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: a little bit higher rated player. So that's the pick. Okay,

1135
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: we're back at eight two again here now, and the

1136
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals are on the phone. They're offering us pick one

1137
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: seven or third next year and their fourth next year

1138
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: for eight two in our sixth I think we got

1139
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: we gotta add guys. I mean, I love the trade down.

1140
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs are on the phone. This one was

1141
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: a little more interesting because they're offering they want eighty

1142
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: two in seventh round draft pick, and they want to

1143
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: give us pick ninety five and pick one thirty one.

1144
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: What was that again? Eighty two this year, our seven

1145
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: seventh round pick next year. I want to get rid

1146
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: of those for pick ninety five and pick one thirty one.

1147
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's not bad. Let me see what

1148
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: if we countered that with, so that would be essentially

1149
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't care about the seventh next year. Yeah, so

1150
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: we would get ninety we've moved back thirteen spots to

1151
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: move up. Uh, we get an extra pick at one

1152
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: thirty one. We've got three picks coming up here, by

1153
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: the way, we've got two. I kind of like that deal.

1154
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: And we don't have a pick between from three. So

1155
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: we would go a hundred picks without a selection, I mean,

1156
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: would it would be nothing at the top, really nice?

1157
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: And then and even if we moved back, we've got

1158
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: we've got two picks in between this one and tow

1159
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: many picks total would that give us we would still

1160
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: have we would still we would still have five picks.

1161
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: Five of the hun players. It's pretty good. Three offensive knee.

1162
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a receiver. You know, I'm

1163
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and I'm gonna I'm gonna accept that.

1164
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, all right, that's been excepted. We're

1165
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: back to saim. Who did they take? There they took?

1166
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: And then the Bengals are on the phone. We're not

1167
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: if we're not making a tree with the Bengals. So

1168
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: at eight two they took your Bill Cox would have

1169
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: been it would have been interesting for us. Um. Remember

1170
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: when we've got three picks here pretty close together, and

1171
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: like the next ten, so that the offensive tackles available

1172
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: Walker Little Jackson, Carmen, Adrian Ealie, Brady Christensen, James Hudson.

1173
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: Hudson's a since he dude. Right, Yeah, Hudson's a since

1174
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: he guy who would lean towards him project. But we

1175
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: might be able to wait on that. Maybe take two

1176
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: of them. A tight end Hunter Long is still available.

1177
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: Good player, I think he would. He would help you

1178
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: out a lot this year. Um. Defensively, Chas sar Ratt

1179
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: is available. Nice cover linebacker, Uh Tyler Shelvon the big

1180
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of l s us It is a

1181
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: big nose. Um. Joe Tryon still available. Yeah. About receivers

1182
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, I bet that's probably picked over a

1183
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: little bit. Elijah Moore, uh Diami Brown two to at well,

1184
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: Nico Collins. Okay, I'd like to add a receiver with

1185
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: one of these picks, I think. Okay, so we got

1186
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: three picks here, See I like the I mean, I

1187
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: feel like we should take the tackle. But there are

1188
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: four of them are so that are acceptable, right, and

1189
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: we'll get one with the next one. But maybe Long

1190
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 1: would be my pick, and we've got yeah, we've got five.

1191
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: We pick again at nine two. If you think that

1192
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: the that the tight end class kind of draw, it

1193
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: dries up and you've gotten caught short in the tight

1194
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: end class before after year we get you caught short

1195
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: of them. I think, I think if you like Long,

1196
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: you take him. Yeah, and then we say we're taking

1197
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: a tackle with the next pick. Yeah, I like it, alright,

1198
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: So Hunter Long is the pick. We're up at nine

1199
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: the Yeah, Boston College, nice dull threat guy, he's a

1200
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: Steeler type. Yeah. Uh. We got two trade offers here

1201
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: for pick one fifty one in Chicago. Yeah uh. The

1202
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: Seahawks want to offer us one. I'm not interested. I

1203
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: don't feel okay, Okay, So those tackles in between our

1204
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: pick there, Joe Trium went next, DJ Daniel Chas ser

1205
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: Rat That stinks, and then Jackson Carmen. Yeah, it's time

1206
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: to grab a tackle, okay. Just a Shelvon still available.

1207
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: Marlin two below two still available. Another defive pick is

1208
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: a bonus prize type Quincy Rochet still available. Uh. The

1209
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: linebacker positions drying up here a little bit. Monty right

1210
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: still available. Uh, Tony Fields still available from West Virginia. Yeah, Um,

1211
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: I need a tackle here. We've been Matt's banging the

1212
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: table for a tackle here. All right, We'll take James Hudson.

1213
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: That's fine. Yeah. One guy I think is interesting that

1214
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: that I didn't quite realize until this morning. I read

1215
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: something about him is Walker Little. He's played one game

1216
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: in two years. But if you looked at mock drafts

1217
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: like a year ago before, we know he was the

1218
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: first round pick by anybody. I mean it's just a

1219
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 1: total unknown, right. Uh. The Ravens are on the phone.

1220
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: They want to offer us pick for pick. They gotta

1221
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: have somebody in mind here. I don't want to help.

1222
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to help the Ravens. I'm rejecting to

1223
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: get out here. All right. Now, we got the best

1224
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: defensive player available, I think, Okay, we we filled a lot.

1225
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: We can get that, I think. Um, I like Elijah Moore,

1226
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Shelvion still Availa with Tyler shelvil With. I mean

1227
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: he's a talented LSU, highly recruited. That allows you if

1228
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: you if you resigned Tyson and Lulu a Tyson, you're

1229
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: now instead of being the nose tackle per se, you

1230
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: are the back to being the backup of defense. And

1231
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 1: they haven' drafted the defensive lineman high in a while.

1232
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: To two below two is also available there and he's

1233
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: like the lu Yeah, either be fine. Um, it depends

1234
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: on what you want to do there. You know two

1235
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: Polo two is more of a pass and he's more

1236
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: of a you know, six to six pound guy, where

1237
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: Shelvon's a six three pound guy. I mean, I think

1238
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: usually you take the athlete the longer, the tuit body

1239
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: type as opposed to the nose tackle body type. But

1240
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: I think I want the bee fund in this case.

1241
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: We've also got available hamilcar Rashid out of Oregon States

1242
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: the edge rusher, and Quincy Rochet and interesting, yeah, I

1243
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: mean depth there is a problem. Uh. Monty Rice still

1244
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: available out of Georgia cover linebacker, sidelines, sideline, and I

1245
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: got same with Tony Fields. Um, who you're leaving towards

1246
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: you get the cornerback position. You got Ambree Thomas R,

1247
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: Darius Williams, Pauls in the debut carry Vincent. It's never bad.

1248
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: You out a corner, and Hayden's up in age and

1249
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: Nelson's lot cheap. And but another guy kind of like

1250
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: and this is too early for him, the Mamador Lenore

1251
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: from out of Oregon. Uh yeah, if you're looking for

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01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: a slot type, what about a receiver though, keep coming

1253
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: back to ride receiver. It's Elijah Moore, Dianne Brown, two

1254
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: to at Well, Nico Collins, Marquis Stevenson, Seth Williams, Stage

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01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: Siratte More would be my favorite of those, but I'm

1256
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: not gonna pound the table for him. Let's go defense.

1257
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: We haven't helped the defense yet, and take a big guy.

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01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: Let's take a big guy. I think I think you

1259
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: had to have to have beef in them. You need,

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01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: you need three, six or seventh. So if you're looking that,

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01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: to me, it would be nice to have a big

1262
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: nose tackle. But I don't know that yesterday's news. That's

1263
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: yesterday's news. Like, is Shelvon gonna play more than twenty

1264
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: snaps a game for you? No? No, I mean maybe

1265
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: not even three years from now, but I think that

1266
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: two polo two could he's gonna because he would automatically.

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he's your backup nose tackle this year. And he

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: also play some play some defensive end for you. Yeah,

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: let's do that. Yeah, Okay, so he is the pick,

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Speaker 1: and now we get a little bit of a weight.

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Speaker 1: We've made four picks or five, We've made five. We're

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01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: back up now one Washington's first round pick. Next, we

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Speaker 1: got Washington's first round pick. Next wed Okay. At the

1274
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: edge right now, you've got Peyton Turner. You've got Dalen

1275
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 1: Hayes shocka tony Um. Interesting dude is William Bradley's king

1276
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: out of Baylor. Yeah, I've heard good things about him too. Yeah.

1277
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: At the linebacker position, you got Charles Snowdon, Merlin Robertson

1278
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: Amen Open Game with blah blah blah blah, Garrett Wallow.

1279
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: We're kind of in that. A guy's there. Ventral Miller

1280
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: is still availed with these later guy and he's a

1281
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: later guys. And some of these Aedge guys are interesting.

1282
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: Cornerback position, carry Vincent's available still uh, Keith Taylor Cameron

1283
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: buying him Lenora out of Oregon. So there's some guys there. Um,

1284
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: how abo about wide receiving. I was just gonna go

1285
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: take a look at the XU and you're gonna say, so,

1286
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: it's what Filer out of Indiana, Austin Watkins at the U. A. B. K.

1287
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: Johnson at the South Dakota State. I kind of like him,

1288
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: and he had a really good Senior Bowl from what

1289
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: I understand. Daz Newsome out of North Carolina, Cornell Pyle,

1290
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: Trevor Grimes, Jalen Darden, Tyler Vaughans. Where's darting from again?

1291
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: Darden is from North Texas. He's really interesting. I just

1292
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: want to make sure he was the guy I was

1293
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: thinking of. He's lean, he's like a ighty pounds, small,

1294
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 1: really fast, really electric, probably a slot but has some

1295
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: deep skills. I kind of like him. Or the North

1296
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: Dakota State. Dude, do we do we have a pick

1297
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: coming up soon? We don't. It's now or never. We're

1298
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: gonna pull the trigger on one of these guys. I

1299
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: think we gotta do now. Okay, So which one do

1300
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: you like better? Johnson or Darden? Where is it? Dardenden

1301
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: in honor of Joe Green? You want Darton? Okay? Jalen

1302
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: Darden North North Texas. That's the first time I've taken him.

1303
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: But we're in a round six now. And we're waiting, waiting. Okay,

1304
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: we we get our picked out around six, it's one three. Um, Now,

1305
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: remember when when the Steelers are actually drafting this year,

1306
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna have some comp pics in here mixed in

1307
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: as well, so there's gonna be even more Maybe that's

1308
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: the linebacker edge guy. Right, that's where you're we're kind

1309
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: of missing on some of these guys. We'll have a

1310
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: chance to get some of these guys. Um, we're back up.

1311
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: I think we almost have to look edge rusher cornerback here. Yeah. Um, yeah,

1312
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: we need to close it out with defense. Um. Ventro

1313
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: Miller available at linebacker, kind of a running chase guy. Uh,

1314
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 1: Errol Thompson at of Mississippi State. Justin Hilliard out of

1315
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Um, that's all true, off the ball linebacker,

1316
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Patty Fisher out of Northwestern Western Isam McDuffie

1317
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: out of Boston College. I kind of like Miller the

1318
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: best of those guys the cornerback position. If you can

1319
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: run my man Trey Brown still sitting there at the

1320
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: cornerback position. I don't know if he would in real life,

1321
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: but I have no problem. I can't pass on here.

1322
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: I do it. Yeah, I like him too much. You

1323
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: almost have to come out of It's hard to go

1324
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: a draft without thinking a corner. Yeah, now we're up.

1325
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: We're up again at to twelve. So now we're gonna

1326
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: get a linebacker, edge um, even a safety or you know,

1327
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: if they're good special teamers. I've upside the guys available

1328
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: at a linebacker, Justin Hilliard, Patty Fisher, Hesam McDuffie, kJ Britt, Grant, Stuart.

1329
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm just looking here. I don't see a lot here

1330
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: that I love. It's getting pretty well picked over. Maybe

1331
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: we have to sign on a veteran there avery back,

1332
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: and if they want at the edge position, you got

1333
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: Chris Rump at a duke, Jonathan Cooper out of Ohio State,

1334
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: Malik Herring out of Georgia. That Rump guy is really small, yeah,

1335
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: and he was really high on lists before this year.

1336
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did this year to hurt

1337
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: himself so bad, but he was a highly productive small

1338
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: edge rush. Here's the guy that I liked the best

1339
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: out of this group, Tron Jackson out of Coastal Carolina. Yeah, okay,

1340
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about he's got he's got some

1341
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: pass Rushmans just needs to get a little more refined obviously,

1342
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like a Highsmith type pick, you know.

1343
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm cool with sevens around. So there

1344
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: it is Tehrn Jackson and we are done. So we

1345
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: came out of this with pick fifty one, Javonte Williams,

1346
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey at pick hundred Long Yeah, actually, Hunter Long

1347
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: held I can get on the field for you. James

1348
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: Hudson is your developmental offensive tackle. Marlon to you up,

1349
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: I can't pronounce, but we have we have five picks

1350
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: of the first nine five and we got Washington's first

1351
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: round draft pick. We got Jalen Dardin at pick one one,

1352
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: Trey Brown at one, Torn Jackson it picked two twelve,

1353
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: and Washington's first round draft pick. I'm fine with that.

1354
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 1: I would do that in heart pick. I think we

1355
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: did pretty well. They're getting up pick or something in

1356
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: the real world. Yeah. So that's that's our draft for today.

1357
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Speaker 1: We're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson. I

1358
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: am Dale Lally. You were listening to the Drive here

1359
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. Your tunes about Drive on Home

1360
01:13:33,760 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio we are back.

1361
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lowey here with Matt Williamson and the Matt

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01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com had its season award picks. It's analysts

1363
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: voted on m v P Coach of the Year and

1364
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I just got an email

1365
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: yesterday from Pro Football Network asking for my votes. Now

1366
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: that'll all come out Saturday night at the awards ceremony.

1367
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: That also Hall of Fame. That's also Hall of Fame announcement.

1368
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: All that stuff all happens at the awards show. Uh.

1369
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: So they're voting for m v P Offensive Player of

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Offensive Rookie of

1371
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: the Year, Defensive Rookie the Year, Comeback Player of the Year,

1372
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: and Coach of the Year. People need to realize that

1373
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs do not factor in on this. They're not

1374
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: supposed they're not supposed to. But this obviously, this voting

1375
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: was done, voted yesterday, and it's hard not to think

1376
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: of this stuff, you know. So they're picked four m

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: v P. Uh they had to believe thirty three voters.

1378
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: Uh was Aaron Rodgers he got twenty eight of the votes.

1379
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: I think that's justified. Patrick Mahomes got four Derrick Henry

1380
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: got one. It ran for two thousand yards. I could

1381
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: see someone making that case. Surprisingly enough, Derek Carr did

1382
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: not get any, not even from his brother once again.

1383
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: Ben and Russell Wilson didn't get one. And that's why, folks,

1384
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: because right, you only get one, and that means you

1385
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: voted for them over somebody else. So we hear this

1386
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: all offseason. Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, I've never got an

1387
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: MVP vote. Well, it's hard to get one, right, they

1388
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: all go to st people. Uh. Offensive Player of the Year.

1389
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry got nineteen votes. I get that. I went

1390
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: off the grid a little bit. Just donna hear the

1391
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 1: other one, Travis Kelsey. I'll bet you I did go

1392
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. Aaron Rodgers finished second with four. Job. Let

1393
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: me do this a lot. Uh. There there's a tie

1394
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: for third place between Josh Allen, Stefon, Digs, Alvin Kamara,

1395
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey. They all got two votes. Who'd you

1396
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: say it was to Aaron rod that's cheating though. Yeah, Well,

1397
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: if he didn't vote for him for m VP, though,

1398
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: he can vote for him, and it wasn't unanimous for

1399
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: him to be I know this isn't the rules, but

1400
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: this would be my rules. Offensive Player of the Year

1401
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: should not be a quarterback. Okay. One person voted for

1402
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Okay, then the same thing as Kelsey was

1403
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: the best guy defensive Player of the Year, the closest

1404
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: vote on. Here's some candidates. The winner had fifteen votes,

1405
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: the loser had fourteen, and third place had four. There

1406
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: were only three guys who got votes. Who would it

1407
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: four Xavien Howard. They had a lot of picks and

1408
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: he's really good, okay. Fifteen with winning with fifteen votes

1409
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: was Aaron Donald. T J. Watt was second with fourteen.

1410
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: I was torn between those two and I picked what

1411
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: it's a close, it's fourteen. He can't get any closer

1412
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah. I McDonald deserves it every year. He's

1413
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: awesome and it probably works against him when people because

1414
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: I voted for in the last two years. This is

1415
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: no fun. I mean, he's better at football than t J. Watt.

1416
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: He's better football than everybody. The offensive Rookie of the

1417
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: Year with one votes Justin Herbert Justin Jefferson. Can't do

1418
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: anymore to state his case, but he's not a He

1419
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: was second. He had ten votes. I mean fourteen hundred

1420
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: yards exactly. Jonathan Taylor got one vote. Tristan Worth's got

1421
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: one vote to an offensive, but he had an awesome yeor.

1422
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: I picked Herbert Defensive Rookie of the Year. I think

1423
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: it's the landslide. Chase Young with twenty nine votes. Yeah,

1424
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: Winfield might get a vote for me. Number two was

1425
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin with three. Number three was Legarius Steed with one.

1426
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: That's kind of a recent memory. He doesn't deserve a vote.

1427
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson from Chicago. I thought about Winfield. I really

1428
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 1: didn't think about any of him's. Chase Young Comeback Player

1429
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: of the Year. I picked Ben because I was not

1430
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: taking Alex Smith, and I couldn't really come up with

1431
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: anyone been at the team at eleven and oh at

1432
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: one point it's still one twelve game. He was twelve

1433
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: and three. I know our recent memories aren't so glowing,

1434
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 1: but Alex Smith was unanimous, unanimous. Nobody else got a

1435
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: vote because well, he was five and one as a starter.

1436
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he came back from things that were harder

1437
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: than others, but he wasn't a good quarterback. They didn't

1438
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: win because Alex Smith over that stretch they did not.

1439
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I get the story. I'm not making light

1440
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: of his situation. I mean J. J. Watt is a

1441
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: better case than him, and there wasn't many great ones

1442
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: to choose for him to be honest coach of the Year,

1443
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: I went with Stefanski Kemstefanski got fourteen votes one that

1444
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't be a landslide. Number two was Sean

1445
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: McDermott with eight. Pretty good. Yeah. Number three was Brian

1446
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: Flory's with four. I would have voted for Flores around

1447
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: week thirteen or shows or so. They kind of didn't

1448
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Playoffs. Yeah. Number four was Bruce Arians

1449
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: with three, tied with and Rivera with three. Okay, and

1450
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: Andy Reid got one vote. I guess Ron Rivera won

1451
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: the division. Yeah, I mean that means, yeah, the way

1452
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: the lead the year wins. But they start four quarterbacks.

1453
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: Over the course of the four quarterbacks, they had everything

1454
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: that happened to them before the season started, change the

1455
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: team to take away the team name. They had lawsuits. Yeah,

1456
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: he had all kinds of harderships. Now he did a

1457
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: good job. Um yeah, so that was the that's the voting.

1458
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: We'll see if that holds up again, that that that

1459
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year A word voting could not

1460
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: have been any closer. That's the one I think could

1461
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: go either way. I mean, maybe Coach of the Year

1462
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: doesn't go like this. But I think case Young is

1463
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: the rookie of the year. I think Herberts the rookie

1464
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: of the year. I think Rogers m VP Offensive player

1465
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: of the year. Who knows. I think everyone kind of

1466
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 1: us that differently. That Defensive Player of the Year is

1467
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: interesting that that one's gonna be the one that I

1468
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: and the Steeler friends are gonna be watching that one closely.

1469
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: You know, want finished third last year. He won't finish

1470
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: third this year. No, he won't. I won't probab in.

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 1: He'll be an top two. Yeah, he'll be in the

1472
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: top two. Ben's not gonna get come back. He's not

1473
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: gonna get compack. No, that's that's that's smith. We can

1474
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: disagree with it all day long. It doesn't matter. Yeah,

1475
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 1: but we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson,

1476
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here on

1477
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, we'll finish up

1478
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: the show, right after this your Tunes about Drive on

1479
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

1480
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and Matt um.

1481
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: We haven't talked a ton of Super Bowl, uh, but

1482
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: they're some interesting news to come out of the out

1483
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl this week. Of course, the chief

1484
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: staying in Kansas City for the week in Tampa, staying

1485
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: in Tampa because that's where they're at. But normally both

1486
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: teams would have stayed in their own well not normally,

1487
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: but this year both teams would have stayed in their

1488
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: cities and not fly. They don't fly in until Friday,

1489
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: I believe, like a typical road game a little bit. Yeah. Um,

1490
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs have a barber coming into their building

1491
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: to cut hair, which okay, because you don't want your

1492
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: players going out and getting haircuts. They they have guys

1493
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: to do that normally, because these guys are in the

1494
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: building all day long, and so they're barber tested positive

1495
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: for for the virus as he's cutting, Like, they find

1496
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: this out as he's cutting people's hair. They had to

1497
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: they had to pull two guys out. Those guys are

1498
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: now on the COVID list because of close contacts. Dercus

1499
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: Robinson is one out. Um. He was scheduled to cut

1500
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes hair that day. They got him in mid cut,

1501
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: so he's halfway through cuttings in this guy's hair and

1502
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 1: they find out he's positive and they gotta say, okay him.

1503
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: They got to yank him out of the build and

1504
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: get him out of here. But he would have, maybe

1505
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: in another twenty minutes, have gotten the Patrick Mahomes. That's

1506
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: certainly the main part of the story. But I'm feeling

1507
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: bad for the dude that's only got half a haircut.

1508
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: You got walk home with half his head shape looking

1509
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: like a goof, and he's got and he's just Okay,

1510
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: you gotta get out of here because you're getting out

1511
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: of here right. Hat's on deck, you know, right, we

1512
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: got you ten minutes later. You just had a close

1513
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: contact with this guy. Get the hell out of the building, right.

1514
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure everyone you know, Goodell, the people,

1515
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: all the TV people, let alone read and arians and

1516
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: all the players are just holding their breath that there's

1517
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: not some close contacts, you know, and no symptoms or whatever.

1518
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: And somebody big gets get through the next get through

1519
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: the next five days. Yeah. I mean, we've got every

1520
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: game in the book in the biggest one that would stink.

1521
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: I mean, even if it's Tristan Worth's or Chris Jones,

1522
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: let alone Brady or Homes or somebody like that, a

1523
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, hopefully not. But keep them on bubble wrapping,

1524
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: you know. Um Sean Payton had a press conference today.

1525
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: He said that they expect of Drew Brees announcement one

1526
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: way or the other within the next week, week and

1527
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: a half. He's going to retire, yeah, But he also

1528
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: said that Jamis Winston is in the Saints plans if

1529
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 1: Breese retires, and I'd like to know how. I'd like

1530
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: to know how. I mean, I'm really curious how some

1531
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: of these teams navigate the salary cap, and including the Steelers,

1532
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: but especially the Saints and Eagles, that are this. If

1533
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: the Saints this is this? What this tells me? If

1534
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: the Saints are talking about resigning or adding guys and

1535
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: they're a hundred million dollars over next year's cap, then

1536
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: this can't be as unworkable as some people are making

1537
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 1: it out to be. It can't be one eighty. It

1538
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: can't be you know, trade everybody there I mean they

1539
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 1: have to trade lad More in ram checking great players

1540
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: for for picks that don't cost anything. It seems sort

1541
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: of just reading through the tea leaves and the way

1542
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: that they've even talked to him throughout the year. I

1543
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: bet Winston's our opening day starter. And they navigate, We'll

1544
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: called navigate the cap better or more than anyone in

1545
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 1: the league, which is why they're in this position, to

1546
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: be honest with you. But I mean, and Breeze comes

1547
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: off the books. But man, that only says them like million.

1548
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: It's doesn't get them a hundred million. It doesn't. I

1549
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: don't know. As usual, it seems like teams are less

1550
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: worried about the cap than we are. Yeah, that seems

1551
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: to be something that that fans in the media spend

1552
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot more time gnashing teeth over than than the

1553
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: teams themselves. But if it goes down, I mean, if

1554
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 1: it's not two hundred, you know, they didn't account for this.

1555
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: But we talked about again, if if they if the

1556
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Saints don't think it's going to be a problem, then

1557
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: you are the ones that should be the most word.

1558
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: They should be them, Yeah, exactly, they should be the

1559
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: team that's like, oh, boy, And I think Winston's playing

1560
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: for two million this year. He's not gonna want two

1561
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: million next year. Does that again? No one. Taysom Hills

1562
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: making seven. I mean, maybe they signed him to a

1563
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: four year deal and his salary is super low this

1564
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: year and they spread. But she's still gonna gi him

1565
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: a signing bonus, signing bonus and he's gonna play for

1566
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: nothing again. He did that and learned and impressed him

1567
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: apparently behind the scenes. Yeah. So, I mean, even if

1568
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: he cost you four million dollars next year, that's still

1569
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: more than what he cost you this year. And you

1570
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: and you're you're still that puts you. It gives you

1571
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: more money that you have to clear under the cap.

1572
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: When we went over their cap situation a couple of

1573
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: weeks ago, a lot of their players they can't do

1574
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: anything with because, for example, moving on from guys like

1575
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: that cost you extra money. And Taysom Hills under contract.

1576
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: Pretty big deal for Taysom Hill. Yeah, he's not a quarterback. Yeah. Um.

1577
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: This was kind of a sad news here that Marty

1578
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer has been moved to a hospice. Um. Of course,

1579
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer, a Pittsburgh area native grew up in McDonald

1580
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Um was was was Cowers, you know, the guy who

1581
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: got him into coaching, of course, a longtime coach of

1582
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: the of the Browns. Uh and then the Chiefs big

1583
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 1: stamp on the I mean, really left an impact on

1584
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,520
Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean considering his tree and the Williams's

1585
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: one and Sally what you went coach? Yeah, he kind

1586
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: of you know when you when you look at the

1587
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and what they are now, um, and

1588
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: what they've been over the last five years, that's all

1589
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer. That's the start of the franchise. Yeah, that

1590
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: franchise was. That was the Bengals before Marty Schottenheimer got there.

1591
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean what they were in Super Bowl too, Yeah,

1592
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: and then they stunk for the next two twenty years.

1593
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: Who's a good Who's a good chief from the seventies?

1594
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Are too many of them? Yeah? You know what I mean? Right,

1595
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 1: So I just wonder, you know, you look at Marty,

1596
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: he's a two five, one thirty nine and one. There

1597
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: were people before Andy Andy Reid won the Super Bowl

1598
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: last year who were comparing Andy Read to Marty Marty Schottenheimer.

1599
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: There's great coaches without a ring to Marty Schottenheimer should

1600
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. Schottenheimer verse Kawer was

1601
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: a pretty good conversation. Two five wins in the NFL.

1602
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: That's hard to do, Yeah, it's hard to do that.

1603
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: Poor guy got fired after a thirty and three season

1604
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: four fourteen and two with the Chargers. They were a

1605
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: good team too. Yeah, I mean, really, they shouldn't have

1606
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: fired him, and he probably should have been their coach

1607
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: for two more years and maybe added another twenty five

1608
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: wins that now, you know that was in two thousand

1609
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: six words, I think that was. That was when they

1610
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: first moved on from Drew Brees to go to Philip Rivers,

1611
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: I believe, and they went fourteen too. Yeah. Yeah, good teams. Um. Yeah.

1612
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: He was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in two thousand fourteen. He's

1613
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: seventy seven years old. Uh yeah, I mean I've spoken

1614
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: with him a number of times. Of course, he's a

1615
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: Washington County native and and just terrible to see that.

1616
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: A really class human being in a great football coach. Yeah,

1617
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: by all accounts. I mean, I've never had the privilege,

1618
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: but I had a lot of influence on a lot

1619
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: of people and isn't the real loud, outspoken dude. You know,

1620
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: might get overlooked by people that weren't around whenever he

1621
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: was coaching in in the history of the league. But

1622
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: he's been important to the league. Yeah, no doubt. Um.

1623
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: And just I'm looking here, Uh when you when you

1624
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: think about UM, I had the chance to talk to

1625
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown today. Um, he's dealing with a knee issue

1626
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: that that held him out of their last that's the

1627
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Bucks last game. Um. I talked to Levy on Bell

1628
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: yesterday and he's gotten three carries in the playoffs. Um,

1629
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: it's not And I just I'm kind of I'm wondering,

1630
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: you know what Steeler fans think of this. I have

1631
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: a I have a pretty good idea of what Steeler

1632
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: fans think of this player this game. Think we're going

1633
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: to disagree with Steeler. I mean, I wish no Ill

1634
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 1: will want either one of them. I don't either. And

1635
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,759
Speaker 1: talking to Antonio Brown today sounds like he's a different

1636
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 1: He's in a different place than he was two years ago, emotionally, mentally,

1637
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I think he has grown up

1638
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. The people with the victory all towards

1639
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell. I don't get right. He wasn't under

1640
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,959
Speaker 1: contract with the Steelings. But he didn't have a contract.

1641
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: We've we've gone over and over this. I mean we

1642
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: the show goes back far enough that we were doing

1643
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 1: shows when this whole, that whole situation was going on.

1644
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: He wasn't under contract with the Steelers. It was all

1645
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: about a contract and go. It's much different than Antonio situation.

1646
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, So you can say you can look at

1647
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell and say, Okay, he bet on himself

1648
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: and lost in a way, um making a right. The

1649
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Jets paid him handsomely. Yeah, I mean they gave him

1650
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of money. If anybody failed in this whole thing,

1651
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: it was the Jets. They gave him a bunch of

1652
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: money for you know, sixteen games a Levy on Bell. Yeah.

1653
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I wonder how history have been rewritten written if he

1654
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 1: would have accepted the Steeler's final offer, because he was

1655
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: still a pretty darn good player at the time. It

1656
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: makes you wonder, I mean, you know, with would things

1657
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: have changed? Would they you know, when you look at

1658
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: that eighteen season when they had a pretty darn good team,

1659
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: saying and would they would would they have been better?

1660
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: Off with Levy on Bell that year. I think they

1661
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: would have. I know, people people were trying to argue

1662
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: that James Conner was better than Levy on Bell. That's

1663
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: not true. They weren't even closed, not even know. I mean,

1664
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: I think he averaged more yards per rush or something.

1665
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of numbers that were in

1666
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: Connor's favor. They weren't. The problem was that James Connor

1667
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy, couldn't you know. I mean, everyone would

1668
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: rather play against Connor than Bell in two thousand and eighteen.

1669
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: You wonder, but the Steeler has been a more cap

1670
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: situation where they caught him after eighteen, Well, that would

1671
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: that that would have been the you know, would that

1672
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: you could make that argument. Okay, if the Steelers still

1673
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: had Levy on Bell and Antonio Brown doesn't, doesn't you know,

1674
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 1: have his blow up, what's their cap situation now? Because

1675
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: much different? It would be much different. So you know,

1676
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: you can re history a thousand different ways. But to me, um,

1677
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: it's all finished now. They were great Steelers. I think

1678
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: that park gets overlooked that they were very useful in

1679
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: winning a lot of games here. And people hate me

1680
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: when I say it, but I think that's the best

1681
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: running back and wide receiver and Steeler history. You can

1682
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: make the argument, I mean, they didn't win championships, and

1683
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: that's of course what everything in Pittsburgh's measured by winning championships.

1684
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: And I get it, but I did not want to

1685
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: play against love Bell in two thousand and sixteen. But

1686
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: if you put you put those guys on the you know,

1687
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: to me, the Steelers didn't fail because of those guys

1688
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: not on the field. To me, the failures were on

1689
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: the defense. I mean, if you look at some of

1690
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: the secondaries that were they ran out there when those

1691
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: guys were were on you know, there was Cody Sense

1692
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: a boss starting games for you and you guys are

1693
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: that nature. Yeah, there's a lot of those that are

1694
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, didn't last in the league, didn't have successful

1695
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: careers that are you know, there's a reason they've used

1696
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: all these early picks on defense, and you think about

1697
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 1: I think there is a misnomer of those seasons, Like, boy,

1698
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: that wasn't Steeler defense always great? You know, like no, No,

1699
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 1: there was bad stretch. They were rebuilding that defense, you know,

1700
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: from from two thousand eleven, two thousand twelve on was.

1701
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, they were rebuilding it. They were rebuilding it. Uh.

1702
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: You know all those guys who were there for the

1703
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl runs in two thousand five, two thousand and eight,

1704
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: and two thousand ten, they were they were leaving. They

1705
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: were old and gone. It's kind of like when the

1706
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: Super Steelers start retiring and it's like, yeah, I didn't

1707
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: you don't keep up the same level or end a career.

1708
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: Lambert's not the same or you know what I mean, right,

1709
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: just because their names were there too, No, you're right.

1710
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's not an accident. They use the first

1711
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: round pick that many years in a row on that

1712
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Yeah, I mean Bell and Brown

1713
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: carried this team for a long time. Yeah, I mean

1714
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: they were good because of those guys, not in spite

1715
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: of no, absolutely, they were the best player at their

1716
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: position for a couple of years in a row. Yeah. Um.

1717
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: You know, again, it didn't add up to Super Bowls.

1718
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 1: You know, they did win some playoff games with them.

1719
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: I know people like to say that Mike Tomlin has

1720
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: he's only won three playoff games since You can look

1721
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: at it this way too, he's won three playoff games

1722
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: since two thousand five or two thousand fifteen. Does that

1723
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: make you feel better about it? Because pick your pick

1724
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: your time frame. Yeah, you know exactly. Now that's a

1725
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: good point, Like depends how you want to rate that sentence. Yeah,

1726
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: I mean you could say the same thing or just

1727
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: if you want to make them look bad or if

1728
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: you want to make them look good. Right, Yeah, you

1729
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: can't just look at it from as it is, you know,

1730
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: at what it is. There always has to be some

1731
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of narrative there. And back to Brown and Bell

1732
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: real quick, you know, to kind of talk super Bowl.

1733
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: Bell might be shot and it's certainly never fit in

1734
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: with Casey Brown, isn't. No, he's not people the people

1735
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: trying to discount what Brown has done this year. He's

1736
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: played eight games. He had forty five catches for four

1737
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 1: and fifty some you know, for like four or sixty yards.

1738
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: Extrapolate that over sixteen games. That's a ninety catch season.

1739
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: And that was had some injuries since then, and if

1740
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: you recall his last game as the Steelers against the Saints,

1741
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: I think he played one game between then and now,

1742
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean with the Atriots. So he

1743
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: has played football for a long time and still comes

1744
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: in and lights it up to some degree. And I

1745
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: remember writing for that game against the Saints. He was

1746
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL that day. I mean

1747
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,560
Speaker 1: it was eleven catches for a hundred and eighty or

1748
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,440
Speaker 1: twelve catches for a hundred eighty five yards and two touchdowns,

1749
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: superstar against against Marshawn Lattimore with help, and they couldn't

1750
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: couldn't stop him, couldn't stop him, and he was the

1751
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: height of his powers. And he's not there still. I mean,

1752
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he's thirty two, but he's still pretty good.

1753
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: It sounds like the Bucks want to bring him back.

1754
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he is a change man. I don't know.

1755
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't really matter to me all that much.

1756
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: I hope he is for his case, but he can

1757
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 1: still play the game. Maybe he's going to be an

1758
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 1: influence on Sunday. Yeah. I think we'll see if he's

1759
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,839
Speaker 1: able to get out there. I believe he was limited

1760
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: again today dealing with some kind of knee issue. But

1761
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: uh yeah, um, I'll be interested to watch this super Bowl.

1762
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: That's that's part of it, uh, you know, for for

1763
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh um Arians connection as well a couple of former

1764
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: stealers Yeah, I mean Ross Cockerell's playing for Tampa Bay.

1765
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 1: You got the defensive tackle, uh left, which is there

1766
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: to mcclennon. Yeah, Steve McClendon, Larry Larry flots on the

1767
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: staff as well. So yeah, lots of lots of tie

1768
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: ins are to this year's Super Bowl. But the big guy,

1769
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy might win back to back Super Bowls and

1770
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: being active for being active for both uh, and he was,

1771
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: We're gonna that's gonna do it for our show today again.

1772
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: You can listen to us, UH if you get downloaded

1773
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 1: a podcast. Downloaded the podcast, you know, follow the network. UM.

1774
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: A lot going on in downtown yep. But he is

1775
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. We also want to

1776
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: thank Jacob here on site for keeping us on the air,

1777
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 1: and we want to thank you for listening to this

1778
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.