1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition of the program, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and boy, oh boy, do we have some things lined 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: up for you. Given the fact that Mother's Day is Sunday, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: our moms. I'm a little bit nervous about this because 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea what they might say, and I 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: don't want bucker id to get canceled over what moms 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: might say. But our moms are gonna be on the 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: show live and two thirty at the end of the 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: week to roll into Mother's Day weekend. I think you 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: guys will enjoy that. We've got Ann Coulter swinging by. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: We'll talk with our friend Frank Siller at Tunnel to Towers, 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: but we begin with the continued unraveling of everything COVID related. 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Yesterday afternoon, what we have referred to as the spirit 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: airlines of the COVID shots, the one that our own 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton got so that he can attend his brother's 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: wedding was effectively pulled from the market because it was unsafe. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: And I want you to just think about what that means. 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Our government was mandating that people get these COVID shots 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy people or they lose their job. 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: And now they are saying, oh wait, these shots actually 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: have potentially significant health consequences for healthy people who never 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: needed the shots in the first place. And all of 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: this combines with the fact that our government told us 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: two COVID shots would solve everything and keep us from 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: getting and spreading the virus. Buck, They told us it 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: wasn't safe for our kids to go to school in person, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: even though it was. They told us that we all 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: had to wear masks to stop the spread of COVID, 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: even though masks didn't work, including by the way, two 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: year olds. All of that was wrong. And if you dared, 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: as Buck and I did, to call into question any 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: of this, you were labeled a purveyor of disinformation and 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: you were in danger of having the full throated roar 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: of the mainstream Checkmark Blue Checkmark brigade members come after 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: you and their cohorts in the mainstream media could decide 37 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: that they were going to try to docks you. You 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to say any of this. And our friend 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Ran Paul Senator from Kentucky pointed out something that is 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: quite true, and we've been saying on this program for 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: some time. Even as they are creating a Ministry of Truth, 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: the biggest purveyors of disinformation in this country over the 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: past several years has actually been your federal government, particularly 44 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: in this COVID era. Listen to Senator Ran Paul make 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: the case. We can't even agree what disinformation is is. 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: You can't even agree that it was disinformation that the 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Russians fed information to the Steel dossier. If you can't 48 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: agree to that, how are we ever going to come 49 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: to an agreement on what is information so you can 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: police it on social media. I think you've got no 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: idea what disinformation is, and I don't think the government's 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: capable of it. Do you know that the greatest propagator 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: of disinformation in the history of the world is the 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: US government. Are you familiar with mcnamaram, the Pentagon Papers? 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with George W. Bush and the weapons 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: of mass destruction? Are you familiar with Iran Contra? I mean, 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: think of all the debates and disputes we've had over 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: the last fifty years in our country. We work them 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: out by debating them. We don't work them out by 60 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the government being the arbitrar. I don't want to govern 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: card Rails, I want you to have nothing to do 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: with speech. You think we can't determine, you know, speech 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: by traffickers is disinformation. Do you think the American people 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: are so stupid they need you to tell them what 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: the truth is? You can't even admit what the truth 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: is with the Steele dossier. I don't trust government to 67 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: figure out what the truth is. Government is largely disseminating disinformation. 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: And yet here we are being told Clay that there 69 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: should be a disinformation Governance Board within the Department of 70 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Homeland Security, that we shouldn't all think that that's something 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: to be really concerned about. That the left will sit 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: around and claim that there's a constitutional right as we 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: know to abortion that will be infringed upon when they're 74 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: no longer is a constitutional right if the Supreme Court 75 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: decision comes down, but free speech rights, they don't actually 76 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: believe in that there is a First Amendment. It is 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: quite clear freedom of speech is there. It is in 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the text, it is in the basis, It is really 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: the basis of English common law in so many ways, 80 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: and has been for hundreds of years. And yet that's 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: a right that they entirely nullify Negate whenever they feel 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: like it, even on core political and policy issues. I mean, 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the notion of vaccines in this country as beyond the 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: realm of discussion when you're mandating vaccines is so contra 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: the heart of the First Amendment. It was such an 86 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: egregious trampling of free speech. And it wasn't just corporations 87 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: engaged in this. It was corporations at the behest and 88 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: encouragement of directly from the White House. They trampled on 89 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: free speech rights. And not only did they do that, 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: they trampled on them and were wrong, which is the 91 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: part I think that we have to hammer home. And 92 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: they're saying, Johnson, Johnson, now, buck, what's gonna come out 93 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: in the future about the Maderna and the Visor vaccines. 94 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: This was such a radical, unprecedented idea that a company 95 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: would get guaranteed buy in mandated by the government to 96 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: a for profit company. Look at the money that Maderna 97 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: and Visor have made off the COVID shots. And now 98 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: they're suddenly circling back around and saying, well, you know 99 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: that Johnson and Johnson, these these negative side effects which 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: they claimed didn't exist, and you weren't able to discuss 101 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: for a long time. They're real and we don't recommend 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: people getting the Johnson and Johnson shot. Well, how many 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: millions of people, a lot of them listening to us 104 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: right now, were compelled to get that Johnson and Johnson 105 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: shot in order to be able to keep their jobs, 106 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: And now they're saying you shouldn't have done that. The 107 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: health benefits don't weigh in your favor. Buck, you were 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: mandated in order to go to your brother's wedding, you 109 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: went and got the Johnson and Johnson shot. It's something 110 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: that you would have never chosen to do otherwise, but 111 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: for governmental action mandated on you to be able to 112 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: go to that wedding. It was worse than that. In 113 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: the city of New York, you had to get the 114 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: shot to go into your job. If you were working 115 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: in an office building of any kind, you're not allowed. 116 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: And no office building in the city would let you 117 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: in without proof of vaccination for months and months at 118 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: a time. So if you were going to be a 119 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: New York City resident and still do your job, and 120 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: unless you were at a company that was going to 121 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: make special accommodations for you to work from home or whatever, 122 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: you had to get the shot or else. It was 123 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: this shot or else. Now the federal government is finally 124 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: admitting officially it was get this shot that didn't last 125 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: for more than a couple of months. Anyway, you probably 126 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: didn't need and actually did put you at risk for 127 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: thrombo cytopenia syndrome thrombosis with thrombocytopenia a blood clot that 128 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: can kill you. Yeah, did actually put you at risk 129 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: for that. The government said you must get this or else, 130 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: and the social media giant said, how dare you bring 131 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: this up? We will. I got dinged, I got shut down, 132 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I got suspended. I had to fight with them on 133 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Twitter on Facebook for exactly these kinds of discussions. Our 134 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: friend Alex Parts had got booted off on Twitter forever 135 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: for saying that the vaccines don't work that well and 136 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: actually have more side effects than they want to be 137 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: honest about. You don't have to do all this stuff, 138 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: but oh you're not a doctor. First of all, the doctors, 139 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: the medical community that was a part of all this 140 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: stuff failed us. Let us down. I'm sorry. There was 141 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: a systematic cowardice of the public health experts who push 142 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. They would not speak the truth to people, 143 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: even these surgeon general. Now you see this Surgeon General 144 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Clay is saying, yeah, we probably should have had a 145 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: more honest discussion about COVID and the risk and everything 146 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: goes Now they're saying this now that it's all over. Basically, 147 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: not only this, Buck, we gave these drug companies immunity 148 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: from lawsuit. And I don't think a lot of people 149 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: are even talking about this, but we now know that 150 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: there were severe consequences for people who are otherwise healthy 151 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: that got the Johnson and Johnson shot. And I'm concerned 152 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: that the more stories are going to continue to come 153 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: out about the Maderna and the Visor shots and you 154 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: can't even sue. People say, well, why does that matter? Well, oftentimes, Buck, 155 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: lawsuits against drug companies are how we become aware of 156 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: what they knew, when they knew it, and the overall 157 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: risk parameters, because these drug companies often try to cover 158 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: up any sort of negative influences that come from their 159 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: drug And I'm not talking just about the COVID shots. 160 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the entire history of the drug industry 161 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: in America. Look at how many class action lawsuits have 162 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: ultimately been brought against companies, and the government gave them 163 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: immunity from being sued. They guaranteed them billions of dollars 164 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: in profits. They mandated that many of us had to 165 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: get these shots in order to be able to keep 166 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: our jobs, or to go to school, or to go 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: to events. And now we're finding out there was no 168 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: reason for this. And by the way, Bill Gates was 169 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: one of the top proponents of the COVID shot. And 170 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: now Bill Gates is coming out and saying, well, turns 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: out COVID wasn't as dangerous to most healthy people as 172 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: we thought it might have been. Did he never look 173 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: at the data? Here he is, We've been We've been 174 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about this for years. Buck, this is pretty easy 175 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: data to look at. But here's our buddy, Bill Gates, 176 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: walking pregnant man emoji. Here he was in a meeting 177 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: that experts at the Foundation said, there's no way, you know, 178 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: there's been too much travel without diagnosis for us to 179 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: contain this. And then at that point, we didn't really 180 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: understand the fatality rate, you know, we didn't understand that 181 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: it's a fairly low fatality rate, and that it's a 182 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: deceased mainly of the elderly kind of like fluids, although 183 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: a bit different than that. So that was pretty scary 184 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: period where the world didn't go on alert, including the 185 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: United States, nearly as fast as it needed to Clay, 186 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: this is a lie, and it's a lie that's obvious 187 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: for so many reasons. One is that we can go 188 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: back in our own respective shows tweets. You and I knew. 189 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm not formerly the richest man in the world. You 190 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: know an epidemiologist either, bucket. I might upgrade my electric 191 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: scooter at some point to an actual automobile, but you know, 192 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: because things go well. But you and I knew somehow, 193 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: why didn't they know? And in fact, in twenty twenty, 194 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: in February of twenty twenty, I want to remind everybody 195 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: that the Prince of the Diamond Princess cruise ship was 196 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: essentially a perfect encapsulation of what COVID is, which is 197 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: that there were three thousand, seven hundred people roughly on board. Okay, 198 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: seven hundred became infected. This virus is very contagious. Seven 199 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: hundred became infected and there were seven they think there 200 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: were seven deaths total of senior citizens. At the time, 201 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: it was all older It was older people so we 202 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: had some sense of what the actual fatality rate was. 203 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Now I actually think the seven deaths is way high 204 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: if you looked at comorbidities and what they actually died of, 205 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: what did they die of COVID. But it's it's astonishing 206 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: to see that they act like we didn't know in 207 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: the beginning that this was not danger to young people, 208 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: that the fatality rate was going to be very low overall. 209 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: And if you look at doctor Eunidas, I'm not sure. 210 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: I say it sounds like I'm talking about the football guy, right, 211 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: but it's John Eunidas from Stanford University. He essentially said, look, 212 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: we're looking at it, probably about a point one to 213 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: point zero one fatality rate, something in that range. Early on, 214 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: that was in the very beginning we did know, and 215 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: now we know no matter what we've done, Basically, the 216 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: only way we've gotten through this is by everybody getting it. 217 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of kids have got it, some huge 218 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: percentage of people under the age of sixty five and 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: all of this, I don't know how you trust the 220 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: government anymore. And I do think buck unfortunately, that there 221 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: will be more acknowledgement of Maderna and Fiser related issues too. 222 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: The Johnson and Johnson is the canary in the coal 223 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: mine as it pertains to the COVID shots. And again, 224 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: it is madness that we have even in the midst 225 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: of this the Biden administration, which has spread more misinformation 226 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: on COVID than anyone and been proven wrong on COVID 227 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: more than almost anyone, is going to argue that they 228 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: are the arbiters of what science is and what's acceptable 229 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: to say and what's not acceptable to say. It's infuriating, 230 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: it really is. We'll continue to break this down for 231 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: you and more. But first I want to tell you 232 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: all about the tunnel of the Towers Foundation. 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Hello. 263 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: It feels like for a lot of people, what we've 264 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: been finding out in the last few days is for 265 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: those who did not know, there is a large part 266 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: of the left that on this issue is really completely insane. 267 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Tim Ryan Clayton, I have been talking about this, 268 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: wants to be the center from Ohio. He's asked, straight 269 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: up abortion, nine month nine of a pregnancy, abortion, what 270 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: do you think he says, go for it. Yes. And 271 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: even mister, you know, super Catholic, pro life democrat, the 272 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: President of the United States, Joe Biden, and I don't 273 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: know if you remember, but for decades that's what Biden 274 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: was famous for, the being the Democrat who was the 275 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: least enthusiastic about abortion. And yesterday the White House Press 276 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Secretary says he supports abortion up until the moment of birth. 277 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: It's probably also worth mentioning that all these poles you see, Oh, 278 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: majority of Americans support row. It's like the majority of 279 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: Americans support gun control. Can I see the question? It's 280 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: always like, do you support reasonable gun regulation? Well, yeah, sure, 281 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: of course, Oh, they support gun control. Same thing with 282 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade. People don't know what they're answering when 283 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: it gets the tiniest bit of specificity. It turns out, 284 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: according to the New York Times, not according to Right 285 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: to Life, two thirds of Americans oppose abortion after the 286 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: first trimester. That's twelve weeks. The law issue that's gone 287 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: up to the Supreme Court is fifteen weeks. The law 288 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: just passed, pushed through and passed by Governor DeSantis, signed 289 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: into law by Governor desandus in Florida fifteen weeks. And 290 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: how many abortions take place after the first trimemester eight percent. 291 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: So that's what we're talking about here. And at first, 292 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: as I say in the column, that is actually true. 293 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: After hating Roe v. Wade, both as a lawyer, as 294 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: all lawyers do. It's just a completely intellectually offensive decision. 295 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: They wanted abortion and said, oh, look we just we 296 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: drop some LSD and hallucinated it into the constitution. I mean, 297 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: as you know, even Ruth Bader Ginsberg said this is 298 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: a BS decision. I would find the right to abortion 299 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: in this other provision or maybe it's this provision. Oh, 300 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: who knows. We'll pull it out of our butts. So 301 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: just intellectually forget any any moral issue, being adamantly opposed 302 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: this decision, and then, of course, as a normal human 303 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: being who doesn't think you're allowed to go around killing 304 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: inconvenient human beings. I've been writing and talking against abortion 305 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: back before it was cool, in high school and college 306 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: and law school. So you know, yes, millions of babies 307 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: are being massacred every year. But I did think when 308 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: I first saw the league, oh crap, this is going 309 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: to ruin the midterms for Republicans. And then after about 310 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: ten minutes, I realized, as I go through in the column, 311 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: no it really isn't it really isn't read the decision. 312 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: You cannot read Aldo's decision. And I am now insisting 313 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: to liberals, if you're going to rant about this decision, 314 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: show me the part of Justice Aldo's opinion that you 315 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: disagree with. Show me anything that is not blindingly logical 316 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: and rational, and no, this will I mean, all we 317 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: get is this parade of horribles of oh one, now 318 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: they're going to ban interracial marriages. There will be four sterilizations. No, no, 319 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean, as Aldo says in his opinion, probably right 320 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: about this next week. At the time of the adoption 321 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: of the fourteenth Amendment, which you know is where we 322 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: get the privacy right, and then from the privacy right, 323 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: all these other rights that are not specified in the Constitution, 324 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: but they're considered, you know, part of ordered liberty. At 325 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: the time of the adoption of the fourteenth Amendment, abortion 326 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: was not only not a right in any of the 327 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: fiftieth state, it was a crime in all fifty states. 328 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: And then mister Bree mcguard comes along as though you 329 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: think what you think is a crime as a constitutional right, 330 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: and watching MSNBC, which has been kind of fun since 331 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: the leaked draft came out, and gosh, I hope God 332 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: willing that will be the final draft. Um I remembered 333 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: they really are loons, the proponents of abortion, and the 334 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: crazy arguments they're making and the hysteria they are leveling. 335 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: I noticed, as I mentioned in the column, everything I wrote, well, 336 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: everything I right generally is true. Not only I but 337 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: I talked to some of my friends I would expect 338 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: because we were all talking about it Monday night. The 339 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: next day, I'm going around. I'm running into women, liberal women, 340 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: different ages of women. I have friends who work with, 341 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of ethnicities and different groups of women, 342 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: and I called all of them. Nobody was talking about 343 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: this decision is an obsession with the New York Times 344 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: and MSNBC, but most people do a don't really care, 345 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: and be they're right not to care, because as I say, 346 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: what we are talking about eight percent of abortions. I 347 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: promise you you will be able to abort a child 348 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: up until about age thirteen in the states of New York, Illinois, California. 349 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: More than half the nation will not be affected whatsoever 350 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: by this decision. You can get a bus ticket to 351 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: one of those states. So it's really we really are 352 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: seeing the luneiest fringe of the left in response to 353 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: this decision. And I am no longer worried about this 354 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: screwling up them in terms. And I had some conversations 355 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: last night. I was talking to trying the same as you, 356 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: to get a bunch of different opinions from people from 357 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: a variety of perspectives. And what sort of ring true 358 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: to me almost immediately is pro choice or pro life 359 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: are very much branding opportunities, And when you actually drilled down, 360 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot of women and men have very similar opinions. 361 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: For instance, the vast majority of people think that aboarding 362 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: a baby in the ninth month is not just wrong, 363 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: that it's murder. And that is people who otherwise are saying, hey, 364 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm pro choice. You start to dial back with them 365 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: and you say about seven months, eight months, they're queasy 366 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: at the whole idea, and they consider themselves to be 367 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: pro choice. Similarly, there's very few people who say, hey, 368 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: I don't believe birth controls should be legal, or I 369 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: don't believe that exemption should exist in the life, you know, 370 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: when a mother's life is at risk or in a 371 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: rape or an incest. Tiny percentage of those, but even 372 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: pro people are saying, hey that. In other words, there's 373 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of reasonableness when people actually drill down on 374 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: the specifics. So to your point, yeah, go ahead. No, 375 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, if we went with fifteen weeks, 376 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: that seems eminently reasonable and rational to me to a 377 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: large extent. And to your point, it also still gives 378 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: people plenty of time to make a choice. But also, 379 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: I just I'm kind of blown away that this is 380 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: considered as polarizing. It is because when you dial down, 381 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: most people agree on most of these issues. Yes, and 382 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: that's why it was outrageous for the Supreme Court to 383 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: reach out and create a legislative answer. When you're a court, 384 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be deciding is this is this law constitutional? 385 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: Or is it not? They're not supposed to be writing law. 386 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: But I guess issuing cultural legal quote legal rulings for 387 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: the entire country is more fun than deciding tedious antitrust cases. 388 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: And that the most egregious example of this, of course, 389 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: was the Roe v. Wade case. M one one caveats. 390 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: I would add, um, because I think it's important for 391 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: people to know this. Um. The rape and incest exceptions, um, yes, 392 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: perfectly reasonable. Um. The issue with those are that who 393 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: is who is deciding this? I mean, are we have 394 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: a tribunal? Is every girl going to say, oh, yeah, 395 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: this was righte? Um? The decider is the quote doctor 396 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: i e. The abortionist, which is by a lot of 397 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: states are are hesitant to throw in those exceptions, and 398 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: as in Mississippi and Florida, for example, no they say, um, yes, 399 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: life of the mother or life of the fetus if 400 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: the baby isn't going to survive has some sort of 401 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: physical deformities, but um, you know, if you've been raped, 402 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you've been the victim of incest, you 403 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: got you got four months and that's that's well joint. Yeah, 404 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: the first trimester. And that's what I ask you. What 405 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: bly in the column which I no't really see people 406 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: paying that. Whatever happened to the morning after pill? Yeah, 407 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: if you've been raped, you take the morning out. There's 408 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot of there's been a lot of advances in 409 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: science since since Roe v. Wade. Why are you, well, 410 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: I was raped. I'm just gonna say, how about venereal disease? 411 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: Are you get tested for that? Um? Are you're just 412 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: going to sit around for six months before wait until 413 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: you notice the baby bump? I mean, I just don't 414 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: think that's how people live their lives. And real quick 415 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: the leaker, I think you and I have had a 416 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: similar take on this one publicly. I don't know why 417 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: everyone's pretending like this is going to be the greatest 418 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: man hunt or woman hunt, as the case may be, 419 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: in the history of the US legal system. I think 420 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: they'll find this person at some point maybe and they'll 421 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: maybe get fired from the Supreme Court, and then they'll 422 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: get a book deal and they're not going to prison. 423 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: Nothing terrible is going to happen to them, and in fact, 424 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: they'll probably be a hero to the left. Well, it 425 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: depends elite. As I said in my column, if it 426 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: turns out it was a conservative, the person will be disbarred. 427 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: We'll never get a job in the legal professions, as 428 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: should happen in any case, we'll be ruined for life. 429 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: And if it's a liberal, yeah, it'll be a book 430 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: deal and a gig on MSNBC. But what should happen. No, 431 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: it's not a crime. But wow, I've been listening to 432 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: liberals wail about and a check on our norms on tech, 433 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: on democracy for what four years? Now? No, this really 434 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: is this is egregious. All lawyers know how egregious this is. 435 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court certainly knows, and there ought to at 436 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: least at the absolute minimum, be a disbartment and culture 437 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: fantastic stuff as a well, you can check out that 438 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: column and culture dot com. We'll talk to you again soon. 439 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Good to talk to you right now. 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Welcome back in Glati, Ravis, Buck 459 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Sex didn't show are good friends at the view, Buck, 460 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: They are the gifts that keeps on giving. The dumbest 461 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: collection of talent that's used in the quotation marks there 462 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: talent in media history, maybe certainly modern media history. Well, 463 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: they said that they found. I think it was Sonny 464 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Houston here saying Black Republicans and Latino Republicans are oxymrons. 465 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: Basically they shouldn't exist. This is their conversation from a 466 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: little bit earlier today. Many of the things that I 467 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: don't stand by the Trump did, Trump has done things 468 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: that are racist. I'm a black woman first, so always 469 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: understand that. But I do say that I have many 470 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: conservative values that I will talk to you about. And 471 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: so if you look at your network that you're standing behind, yes, 472 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: And when you look at your network that you're standing behind, 473 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: you're saying that. You look at Chris Paulo, that's an oxymoron. 474 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: A black Republican, you feel like it's an oxymoron. Why 475 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: are your friend right here is a Republican? You do 476 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: what you say? You feel like it's a oxymoron that 477 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: you're a Catholic, But you also have our whole life. 478 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I know you don't understand yourself, then 479 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: you have you have to understand myself. I don't understand either. 480 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: But if that a personal conversation we're going, I don't 481 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: like we're having a personal conversation about about CNA. Don't 482 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: unders have black people at Linz and I don't understand 483 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Latino Republican. I mean, Sonny Hawsten not an oxymoron, just 484 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: a moron um. And you just see the way they 485 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: don't even want to have a conversation. They don't even 486 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: want to listen to what this woman is trying to 487 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: say and express. It is so reductionist and and uh 488 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: and undermining to assume, I mean, think think about what 489 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: this really means. I mean, and this is a to 490 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: be fair, this is a common idea on the left. 491 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: And I mean I didn't basically said it. You ain't 492 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: you ain't black. If you're for if you're not for 493 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: boten I have. I have a bunch of friends who 494 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: are black Republicans are also friends who are black Democrats. 495 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: And every Black Republican friend that I have will will 496 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: tell you that they're they're amazed that this is sort 497 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: of an accepted in discourse where it's, oh, this is 498 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: your skin color, therefore your this according to democrats, Oh, 499 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: you're supposed to believe the following list of things because 500 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: of your skin pigment. Because of your skin color, you're 501 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: supposed to believe and if you deviate from that list, 502 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: you're somehow inauthentic or betraying your true self or something. 503 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: It is such an ugly belief, but there are a 504 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: lot of ugly beliefs on the left, a lot of 505 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: Democrat beliefs are really undermining and gross. It's it's the 506 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: fruition to its full nature of identity politics, which is 507 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: direct racism. That's where identity politics leads. Make no mistake 508 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: about it, because effectively, what Sonny Haston is arguing there, 509 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: and she's not alone. Joe Biden made the same argument 510 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: is your race defines what you should believe. You are 511 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: not an individual. The color of your skin dictates what 512 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: you should believe. And that's the very foundation of racism. 513 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: And so it's it's we've ended up in this place. 514 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: You know, what do they say in time is a 515 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: flat circle in a true detective man, you look at 516 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: true detective reference. By the way, I love that first 517 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: first and then and then it just went off, Yeah, 518 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: really bad. Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey were incredible. But 519 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: what we have ended up in is a place where 520 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: Democrats now embrace racist ideas, separation of races, the idea 521 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: of separate graduations, which are going to be tappening at 522 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: many different colleges across the country. Black graduation, white graduation, 523 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: and this idea that she fills one hundred percent comfortable 524 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: saying because people like Joe Biden said it. If you 525 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: ain't for Biden, you ain't black. Something along those lines. 526 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: Remember when he was doing the interview from his basement 527 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty presidential campaign. I believe you said 528 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: that on Charlemagne. I think that's right show, right, which 529 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: is an iHeart show to my knowledge, a little bit 530 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: of a plug there, and and it was totally acceptable 531 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: inside of the Democratic Party for him to be making 532 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: that statement, just like Sonny houstin saying Black Republicans are 533 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: in oxymoron, and so are Hispanic Republicans. By the way, 534 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: Oh yes, tell everybody about the members because this is 535 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: exciting on Hispanics and we're who they're looking to vote 536 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: for in the next time in around. This came out 537 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: yesterday the newest NPR Maris poll, and Buck knows this. 538 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a nerd. I love diving into these 539 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: different poll results. When it comes to this, there are 540 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: right now fifty two to thirty nine, accorded to hiss NPR. 541 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: NPR's poll Hispanics are plus thirteen right now to the 542 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: Republican Party fifty two thirty nine, and to put that 543 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: in perspective, white people fifty to forty one for the 544 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: Republican Party. So according to the most recent NPR data, 545 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: Hispanics are more likely to be in their poll Republicans 546 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: than white people are plus thirteen. That's a pretty crazy mood. 547 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: If it is in any way represented in the actual 548 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: mid term election results, it'll be intriguing. It would be 549 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: a seismic shift politically. By the way, seventy two twenty 550 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: in their poll black Democrat versus Republican, but I means 551 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: two twenty percent high for Republicans for black people. Too 552 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: excited to have all of them as many of them 553 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: as will come along to think to have our fellow 554 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Americans or fellow Latino Americans, black Americans as part of 555 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: the red wave. My friends, jump on the wave, Ladies 556 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, jump on it. Join us in this one. 557 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's actually restore some sanity to the country, and 558 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: let's have a very same third hour Clay, What do 559 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: you say? I like that idea, Buck and our moms 560 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: are gonna be with us. Happy early Mother's Day, Fleet 561 00:32:51,320 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines. Welcome back 562 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I hope all of 563 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: you are having fantastic Friday's final half hour of the program. 564 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: Mother's Day is on Sunday, and our producer Ali said, 565 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: you know what we need to do. We need to 566 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: get your mom and Buck's mom on the show to 567 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: answer questions from the audience. So, for the first time ever, 568 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: Jane Sexton is in studio in New York City with 569 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: her son Buck, and my mom, Liz Travis is in 570 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: studio here in the Nashville area with me, And first 571 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: of all, thank you both for being fantastic moms. And 572 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: we hope that you have a good Mother's Day weekend. 573 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: And my mom is so nervous Buck to be on 574 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: on the radio show. I don't think she's called in before. 575 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: Are you nervous? Yeah? So can I ask your mom 576 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: play the first So we so just ever knows what 577 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: we did here. We we asked for emailed questions in 578 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: and we also took some voicemail questions in so we 579 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: could uh so we could kind of push, you know, 580 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: push the questions back and forth to our to our mom. 581 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: So I'm here in New York City with my mom, Jane. 582 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: Clay's in Nashville with his mom, Liz, And so can 583 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: we start with with Liz first? Question five? Away? Um. 584 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: I keep wanting to call her missus Travis, but she's 585 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: told me to call her Liz. I'm gonna call her Liz. Um, Liz. 586 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: This is from can she hear me? This is from 587 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: Callie in North Carolina. She wants to know what was 588 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: Clay's and then for me too, But we'll start with Clay's. 589 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: What was Clay's favorite book growing up? Okay, Oh, we can't, Clay. 590 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: We gotta get her over to your mic. We can't 591 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: actually hear her on that mic. So you know what, Clays, 592 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: that's Mike, and I should just I should just point out, 593 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: by the way, there are probably eighteen people who worked 594 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: to have a second mic to make sure that it 595 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: worked when my mom came in studio here, and so 596 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: it's par for the course that it that it would 597 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: immediately bail. So bring her over. Yeah, okay, okay, so 598 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: you can ask my mom. You could ask my mom. 599 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: Go ahead, yes, Jane, what was Buck's favorite book when 600 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: he was growing up. What do you remember him loving 601 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: to have read or read himself. I think what really 602 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: changed his whole thinking on reading was The Three Musketeers. 603 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: And he was about eight or nine when he read that. Yeah, 604 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: and then that sort of sparked his love of reading. 605 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: And then he moved on pretty quickly to like Michael 606 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: Crichton and Tom Clancy. And he was an avid reader. 607 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: So reading has always been a big part of bucks. 608 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: I ripped through my mom remembers because I had all 609 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: these paperbacks I used to take to our grandparents' house 610 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: of summer. I mean I ripped through Jurassic Park, Congo Sphere, 611 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: Rising Sun, and Dramedis Strain all like, just ripped through 612 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: those books. But Alexandro Duma The Three Musketeers, that was 613 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: the first book that I ever read that wasn't assigned 614 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: in school that I just absolutely lee loved. So can 615 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: Liz hear me now? And can she? Oh? Now, we 616 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: can't hear I don't hear Clay at all now. So 617 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: this is our mother's back a copy she brought in 618 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: a copy of the very first book you know, back 619 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: in the day Walden books. If you grew up in 620 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: Nashville was like the only place you the only bookstore, right, 621 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't New York City where you had all the 622 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: Barnes and Nobles and everything else. And so at a 623 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: very young age, I loved this book called Lookout for Pirates. 624 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: And she brought the copy of Lookout for Pirates. How 625 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: many times do you think I read this book? Mom? Well, 626 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: you read it until you memorized it. You memorize this 627 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: whole book. It's like sixty three pages, Loan, They're like 628 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: twenty words per page. And so he was six years old. 629 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: This was really the first book that he just really 630 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: read and he memorized it, so, you know, he could 631 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: just walk around just say in the book, by the way, 632 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: people love I'm sure who are listening right now. When 633 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: I was in college, Buck, I went to school in 634 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: the East Coast. When my mom would call and leave 635 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: answering machine messages, my roommates would make me save them 636 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: just so I could push and they could hear this accent. Right, So, 637 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: my mom born and raised in the South, and I'm 638 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: sure people are listening right now and saying, you know, 639 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: that is a real Southern accent, much like Julie Talbot 640 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: who is our boss at Premier? Who is Who's also 641 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: got the same accent? You know what, It's a dying art. 642 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: This voice. There we go, This voice is a dying art. 643 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: So I'll go now, we'll flip the orders. So Liz 644 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: Ross in New York City wanted to know what did 645 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: Clay want to be growing up? And did you ever 646 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: think he'd become a radio host? Well? Growing up? What 647 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: did you want to be when you were really little? 648 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think every every kid who likes sports 649 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: wants to be a pro athlete. But actually you were 650 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: talking earlier about Top Gun. When Top Gun came out, 651 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: I was like six years old, Buck, I wanted to 652 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: really badly be a fighter pilot, also because of Robotech 653 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: and Star Blazers, if I remember correctly, So I think 654 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: when when you know, when I was super young, the 655 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: idea was growing up and being a fighter pilot. I mean, 656 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: we can get Carrie's dad to take you up, and 657 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: I know he got my dream job top Gun retired, 658 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: but he's he's the real deal. Um, all right, mom? 659 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: What was mom wanted? What did I want to be? 660 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: Because this is a weird one, this is true. When 661 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: Buck was little, he really wanted to be an animal conservationist, 662 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: and that's pretty specific. Yeah, no, he was kind of 663 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: an old little dude for her. For a little kid, 664 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: he was always like a wise old soul, even at 665 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: age seven. But that kind of faded away. I realized 666 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: you don't really like make money or like that's not 667 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: really a But I was like everybody wants to be. 668 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: Every girl I knew when she was like twelve or 669 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: thirteen when you're in school wanted to be a marine biologist. 670 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: That stage exists in New York City, where everybody wanted 671 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: to be a lot of women wanted a lot of 672 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: young women wanted to be like, you know, taking care 673 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: of the dolphins. But yeah, I wanted I wanted to 674 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: save the elephant and uh and the whales. I actually 675 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: think I I think I don't. When I was a kid, um, 676 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: one of my grandparents donated in my in my name 677 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: to like this whale conservancy. So I went through this phase, 678 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: um and I don't know, and then like got interested 679 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: in girls in junior high and all of a sudden, 680 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be an animal conservationist anymore because 681 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to like, you know, earn 682 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: a living UM, all right, Liz, did they ever let 683 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: me hold on a second? Um? What did they ever get? 684 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: Did they ever have a completely crazy idea that you 685 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: had to talk them out of? That's from Issy in Massachusetts. Liz, 686 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: you first a crazy idea you had to talk Clay 687 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: out of. Oh my gosh, I have batten Brian. Here, 688 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: where's that easter bonny? Um? I don't know. You know 689 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: when when they were tain Nagers, they rode a lot 690 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: of yards. I don't know if you know what it is. Yeah, 691 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: we once, Uh that was not so we would you know, 692 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of a prank. You'd roll everybody's yard, you 693 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: would toilet paper at whatever you would call um and uh, 694 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: I remember my dad would always say, because in the South, 695 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: some of those people are crazy. Somebody's gonna shoot at you. 696 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: And somebody shot at us when we were we were senior, 697 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: shot the car twice. Uh. I mean, it's a crazy story. 698 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: I probably should tell this on the air long form 699 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: at some point with you Buck. But my parents had 700 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time saying, hey, maybe stop with 701 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: the pranks like you're and I will always kind of 702 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: stay you're crazy. There's nothing that's gonna come from this. 703 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: That's bad. And the car got shot twice, like we 704 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: could have gotten killed for for rolling? Where te being 705 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: somebody's yard? Well, this is where I'm my This is 706 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: really boring. I mean, I asked my mom, So I 707 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: tell you, I just I never like did I've never 708 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: got into trouble. I don't have an answer for this. 709 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: I never I never got into trouble, wasn't What about 710 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: his brothers? How would you so I've got three boys, Jane, 711 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: where did Buck rank in terms of difficulty of raising 712 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: compared to his two brothers and his sister? Like, how 713 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 1: would you rank the kids? Um? Honestly, Clay, I got 714 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: off real easy. They were all terrific. And if people say, oh, 715 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: that can't possibly be true, but I really didn't have 716 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: any issues with any of them. They were really they 717 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: were fun. No, they weren't angels, and they weren't nerds either. 718 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: They just were well balanced. Told you, you know, they 719 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: really they they studied, but they also had lots of 720 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: friends and played and did all kinds of fun things. 721 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: And you know, I was very very lucky, really really really, 722 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: Mom was there for the for the Avanca prom junior problem? Yeah, 723 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: why did you think, yeah, for them. Why didn't you 724 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: think Vanka used to come by the house when we 725 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: were like eighth, ninth grade or whatever, and so she 726 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: would hang out with my mom and my dad, come 727 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: and sit at the kitchen table, and she was just 728 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: just a regular girl. The most popular thing we put 729 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: on the website has been your television commercial, Jane. So 730 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: for people out there who haven't seen who haven't seen 731 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: it yet, first of all, I think you can still 732 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: go track it down at Clay and Buck and I 733 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: believe they're also our photos of both Buck and I 734 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: when we were young that our moms have provided you 735 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: found like a sizeable creadium now. But like, my head 736 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: is ginormous. Did you have a big head as a 737 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: as a kid or not? I think I think I did. 738 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm looking at some of the photos my 739 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: mom shared and uh, you know, because I've got the 740 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: three boys now, Um, it's fun to see like I 741 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: can almost see, you know, just kind of a shadow 742 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: of what the boys look like now looking back at 743 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: myself at a young age. Uh. But Jane, what about 744 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: what about this uh this television commercial? And then also 745 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: you had an audition for an iconic movie role that 746 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: you potentially could have gotten. What was that like? Tell 747 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: people those stories? Well, okay, Well, going back to the commercial. 748 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: I used to do commercials. I worked as an actress. 749 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: I was a trained professional dancer as well, and so 750 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: this was just another job. But it was a great job. 751 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: It was a Bubble Yum commercial and it was with 752 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: Ralph Maccio before he became you know, the big karate 753 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: kid star. This is before that, and it was just 754 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: for me another It was a great job. I had 755 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: audition like three or four times to get it, and 756 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: it was a three day shoot and it ran a 757 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: lot on Saturday morning, so that was great. I was 758 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: already married with a child at that point, and everybody 759 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: else in that commercial was probably and I was young. 760 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: I was twenty one at that time and everybody else 761 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: was maybe sixteen or seventeen. He was a couple of 762 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: years so I was definitely the oldest in that on 763 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: that set, and you know, I had a different mindset 764 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 1: about it for sure. And in terms of the movie 765 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about, that was The Exorcist, and I'm really 766 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: glad that I wasn't cast in That's so, how do 767 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: you audition for the Exorcist. Did they make you scream? 768 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: Did you like? What was that? What was that experience? Like? 769 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: I was really just they gave you sides, which is 770 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: a script and I just read from it. I was 771 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: quite young at the time. I was maybe eleven, and 772 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: quite frankly, I really didn't understand some of the things 773 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: that were in the script. And I'm really glad that 774 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: I didn't have to deal with that and that that 775 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: wasn't part of my legacy. So so so, yeah, Mom, 776 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: Mom wasn't that She was also obvious, gonna say this. 777 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: She was starred in a Hallmark movie of the Week 778 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: summer of My German Soldier, which supporting roles He's always 779 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: the start of me, some of my German should So 780 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: that was a World War Two themed a Hallmark movie. 781 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: Really it's a really lovely movie. It actually is about 782 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: German POWs that were actually moved to Georgia here in 783 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: this country, and it's a true story. So it's it's 784 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: really a worthwhile movie. It actually got some rewards. I 785 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: also was on a soap opera for a while, just 786 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: after my first child was born. I was on The 787 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: Doctors and that was out of NBC, and she played 788 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: moonchild who had been in a cult. It's amazing you 789 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: learn this mom was mom had fight range, a lot 790 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: of range. I want to ask Liz when we come 791 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,959 Speaker 1: back Clay in a second. I gotta ask Liz because 792 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: you're the sports guy, Clay. We're gonna dig into Clay's 793 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: initial sports history. What was his first sport? What was 794 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 1: his best sport? That's a question from producer Mark. Actually 795 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: that got into the list here. We'll come to that 796 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: in a second. We're gonna keep Clay n Bucks moms 797 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: here on the Clay en Buck Show to finish us 798 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: up for Mother's Day. So stick around, more questions and 799 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: more of your We actually have some some of your 800 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: or voice messages to play too. So look, if you 801 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: haven't refinance your mortgage yet, there're still an opportunity. 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That's eight hundred 818 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: seven seven seven eighty one O nine. This is who 819 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: I got my last mortgage from, and this is who 820 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to refinance with American Financing. Visit American Financing 821 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: dot net, American Financing dot net, MLS one eight two 822 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: three three four mls, Consumer Access dot org. Marie from Phoenix, Arizona. 823 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: My questions for both mothers. I would like to know 824 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: what was your reactions the first time your son got 825 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: in trouble at school and what if Danny punishment did 826 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: you give him? Welcome back to Clay and Buck show. 827 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: That was one of our listeners. Marie and Phoenix asking 828 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: both mombs, I'm gonna pose this to Clay's mom, Liz first, Liz, 829 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: h was was was Claid troublemaker? I don't know if 830 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: you know this, but your son was banned from one 831 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: of the biggest cable news networks as an adult later on. 832 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: So there might be a might be a little bit 833 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: of a streak where he presses the boundaries and the 834 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: rules a little bit when he was a little boy. 835 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: Was he was he breaking rules? Did he get in 836 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: trouble at school? No, let me tell you, Clay was 837 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: always the teacher's pay it always. He never got into trouble. 838 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: He made great days, He never got into trouble. Just 839 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: perfect kid, I mean he was, I mean he was 840 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: such a good kid. And at home we never knew 841 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: he was a round because he was always reading, just 842 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: reading and reading. But when he would watch the UT 843 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: football game and they would lose, now he would be 844 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: a door slammer, wow, around slamming out of doors. So 845 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: that's that's been around cursing. She once told me, this 846 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: is the University of Tennessee which I grew up her, 847 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,399 Speaker 1: my mom's dad, my grandfather played for General Neelon. But 848 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: she I remember after one particularly tough loss. Uh you 849 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: you said, Hey, you're not gonna be in harried. Sorry 850 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: to disparage Tennessee football fans here, but you're not going 851 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: to be the kind of fan who grows up and 852 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: beats his wife when the when your favorite team loses, 853 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: which honestly sometimes happens in the South. So I'll take 854 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: Maria's question here to to my mom, and we'll make 855 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: it short because I think this is gonna be boring. 856 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, and mom, I was. I was a president 857 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: of the school. Like you know, I think there are 858 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: a lot of the way a couple of nerds. Yeah, 859 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: president of his senior class. Yea. I think there are 860 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities here between Clay and Buck something. Yeah, 861 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: that's why they grew up to be radio hosts. I 862 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: think I was. I was the one who when my 863 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: friends would get arrested for fake IDs or underage drinking, 864 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: would would try to like either would try to convince 865 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: the officer or not to arrest them. Like I was 866 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: the one they called on to be like, excuse me, sir, 867 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: that officer, that's not a marijuana cigarette my friend has. 868 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: Like I was that sixteen year old you know, so 869 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: that was my role. Um. But yeah, anyway, Oh okay, 870 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: Liz sports, What was Clay's first sport? What was his 871 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: best sport? Well, when you grew up in the South, 872 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: you have to play baseball, you have to play that, 873 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: and he played that until he was maybe ten, and 874 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: then he kind of dropped out. And when we went 875 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: to high school, he played soccer and he made one goal. 876 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: I scored a goal from mid midfield. That's probably my 877 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: all time sports highlight. Buck. I was a I was 878 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: a fullback and I caught one literally at the midfield 879 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: and popped it over the goalie who had gotten out 880 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: too far. So that is my high school sports highlight. 881 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,479 Speaker 1: Very nice. Like the Maldini if you will of there 882 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 1: you go throwback. They are at any soccer fans. Mom, 883 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean you can answer the same question. This is 884 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: my mom now, Jane. Oh, I'd say that Buck actually 885 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: was quite good at basketball when he was young. And 886 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: I think you were like MVP at one of the tournaments, yes, 887 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: one of the big city tournament into school tournaments. I 888 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: very well. And then he played soccer in high school 889 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: and then went on to coach soccer because he had 890 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: in a you know an ability, and he's actually a 891 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: very good tennis player. And another thing about Buck's kind 892 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: of interesting is that he had an interest when he 893 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 1: was young in Capuera, which is an Afro Brazilian martial art, 894 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: and that was kind of a kind of walk on 895 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: my hands and do kip ups and do all the 896 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: these things when I was in the eighth grade because 897 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: I wanted to be good at Capewara. I can't believe 898 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: my mom even remembers that, but that's amazing. I went 899 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: to some classes. I was the youngest kid in the class. 900 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: People are probably googling this, what the heck is Capawera? 901 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: But true story, Yeah, I went with him because I 902 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,439 Speaker 1: was worried. I was worried I was going to break 903 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: my neck, but I did. I was okay quickly. For 904 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: both the moms. The question that is out there and 905 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: I can't even see who asked it, who would you 906 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: like to see us interview that we haven't already? My 907 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: mom thirst and then Jane you hop in, I'd like 908 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: to see you interview my musk Elon must Mos. Yes, 909 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome, Um, I would say, Um, Thomas Soul, 910 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big fan of his and good one. 911 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: Answers for the mom answers Liz honored to meet you. 912 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Clay's mom and my mom Jane 913 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: love you. We love our moms. To all the moms 914 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: out there, Happy Mother's Day. Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton 915 00:50:54,719 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: on the front lines. THO.