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Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess, Hilario, Charlamagne the guy. We

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Speaker 3: are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 3: the buildings. Indeed, it's back, Pete.

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Speaker 4: Boody, Judge, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, now you got out the White House and

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Speaker 5: No, you know, there were very few days that I

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Speaker 2: Now do they make you do? They tell you look

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Speaker 5: I think in the nineteenth century, to be in politics

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Speaker 4: What made you not seek the Senate seat in Michigan.

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Speaker 4: But it seems like a lot.

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Speaker 5: So what we did was we set up funding to

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Speaker 1: No matter the eighty billion dollars that was allocate they said,

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Speaker 1: twenty four. What did that actually go to because they're

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Speaker 5: And this this war on anything that has anything remotely

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Speaker 1: So how would you respond to people who have concerns

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Speaker 5: It's just not true. I mean, you know, the person

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Speaker 5: It's a big agency. We did a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: Now, now all of this is coming from the New

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so that that specific article. Actually it's I

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Speaker 5: The current administration froze that rule. That's something we pushed on.

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Speaker 5: So obviously, you know, my replacement is an airline lobbyist,

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Speaker 5: But that's the kind of inside baseball that drives these articles.

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Speaker 5: Look, you know, aviation's still safer than driving or any

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Speaker 5: You have more private.

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Speaker 3: Right, is that because the reg I guess whatever, the

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Speaker 5: LaGuardia yesterday, really really impressive.

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Speaker 4: Especially if you remember what it used to.

439
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Speaker 5: Yeah, planes is another story. That's you know, that's down

440
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Speaker 5: to the to the airlines to keep their fleet up

441
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Speaker 5: today and everything in between. But but yeah, no, don't

442
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Speaker 5: get me wrong, the infrastructure matters. I just made a

443
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Speaker 5: point of making sure everybody knew if it was the

444
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Speaker 5: airline that was responsible, they had to own it and

445
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Speaker 5: they had to pay out.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever look into other nations, like you know,

447
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Speaker 3: when you go to other countries, I see a lot

448
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Speaker 3: of times they have things that preventative, things like if

449
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Speaker 3: the ground is too cold, they have things that they spray.

450
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Speaker 2: Onto the ground. That's connected to the ground to make

451
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Speaker 2: sure there's no wise or if.

452
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Speaker 4: It's too hot.

453
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Speaker 2: I feel like we should have some of that.

454
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Speaker 3: With as much money as we spend, as much money

455
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Speaker 3: that we have, why don't we do you look at

456
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Speaker 3: those other nations to see how the infrastructure works, so

457
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Speaker 3: oh for sure.

458
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you can learn so much going to other countries.

459
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Speaker 5: I mean you look at Japan and the train system

460
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Speaker 5: they have there, and by the way, their high speed train,

461
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Speaker 5: they've had that since the sixties. This is not some

462
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Speaker 5: you know, new fangled technology, which is why we push

463
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Speaker 5: to get that done in the US. There's Las Vegas

464
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Speaker 5: projects going out to southern California that should be done

465
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Speaker 5: in this decade.

466
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Speaker 2: Why are we so behind?

467
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Speaker 4: Why are we so ghetto? Americans just ghetto comparing to

468
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Speaker 4: other places. Why?

469
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Speaker 3: Bro, they have this thing where, you know, to avoid

470
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Speaker 3: ice that is connected. It almost like heats the road

471
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Speaker 3: so it's not slippery in these other places, And I'm like,

472
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Speaker 3: how we don't have that, you know, it's just the.

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Speaker 5: Weirdest thing, you know, we did. I remember one project.

474
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Speaker 5: It was in New Hampshire where they already had a

475
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Speaker 5: power plant. There's a way to connect it up to

476
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Speaker 5: route some of the heat. They were just venting the

477
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Speaker 5: heat through the cooling tower, and there's a way to

478
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Speaker 5: put that in the sidewalk, and then it saved the

479
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Speaker 5: city tax payer money to clear the road. So there

480
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Speaker 5: have been things like that going on. I think the

481
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Speaker 5: bottom line is you get what you pay for. And

482
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Speaker 5: America has had a problem with investing in shared things

483
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Speaker 5: or public things for a long time.

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Speaker 4: So where has this money gone?

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Speaker 1: When you hear about the you know, the money that

486
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Speaker 1: you allocated and the money buy and allocated the infrastructure,

487
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Speaker 1: But where does the money go.

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Speaker 5: It's going to exactly this kind of stuff. Right. The

489
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Speaker 5: Portal North Bridge is well underway in New Jersey. I

490
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Speaker 5: don't know. You know, a lot of the projects I

491
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Speaker 5: signed off on, I don't know their fate, but I'll

492
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Speaker 5: tell you every day when I'm taking the kids to

493
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Speaker 5: school or to camp, I passed by a project that

494
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Speaker 5: we signed off on. In my time, these things take

495
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Speaker 5: a while, right, So I signed off on it probably

496
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Speaker 5: two or three years ago. Now the workers are there

497
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Speaker 5: installing it. Characteristically right for a three year old boy.

498
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Speaker 5: Gus is like, why is that worker not working? That's

499
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Speaker 5: an excavator, Like there's a role like, we look at

500
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Speaker 5: it every day and I see taking shape. But these

501
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Speaker 5: things take shape over three years, five years, not one year.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: The post is that reportedly you remarked that modernizing air

504
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Speaker 1: traffic control might simply allow airlines to fly more planes, Like,

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Speaker 1: could you elaborate on it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not a thing that I said. I mean,

507
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Speaker 5: the least of our problems was airlines wanting to add fly.

508
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Speaker 5: Our big problem actually was airlines couldn't keep up with

509
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Speaker 5: the flights of the day themselves at schedule, and then

510
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Speaker 5: if we caught them in unrealistic scheduling, we're going to

511
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Speaker 5: enforce on them. But now what I will say is

512
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Speaker 5: we should have good alternatives. So you should be able

513
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Speaker 5: to get a flight. We should also be able to

514
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Speaker 5: take a good train. You should have a safe, effective

515
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Speaker 5: highway so that people have more options and not less.

516
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Speaker 5: Same with transit. Right yesterday from Laguardi, I took the

517
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Speaker 5: I took the bus the M seventy I think it is,

518
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Speaker 5: and then then you get to the subway, which was fine.

519
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Speaker 5: But in most countries if you're Boston, oh then yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well the thing I was always pro transit, but they

521
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Speaker 5: wouldn't let me do transit most of the time. You

522
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Speaker 5: know that they wanted me to be in the vehicle

523
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Speaker 5: and security protocols. I get it.

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Speaker 4: But he thinks, you, Paul, Pete, it's not like you

525
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Speaker 4: was rich before.

526
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Speaker 3: Really think you say that I didn't say that people

527
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Speaker 3: four would come in, you know, be you know you're

528
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Speaker 3: coming the truck and all that.

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Speaker 5: But now right, But but my point is in most countries,

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Speaker 5: most modern countries, you're in the biggest or one of

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Speaker 5: the biggest cities in that country, and you get to

532
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Speaker 5: the airport, you're going to have a one seat ride

533
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Speaker 5: to downtown. We're one of the very few places where

534
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Speaker 5: you don't have that. We should m hm.

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Speaker 1: Why do people get so mad at equity and initiative

536
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Speaker 1: program like like why like why is that such a thing?

537
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: Like why can the New York Post, you know, post

538
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Speaker 1: this article and put this headline and then people say

539
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Speaker 1: that is a detriment. Pete boud to judge and anything

540
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Speaker 1: he wants to do in the future politically, like you know,

541
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Speaker 1: especially if you ran a national camp.

542
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Speaker 5: Look, I think for years there has been this politics

543
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Speaker 5: of saying that if you do anything to try to

544
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Speaker 5: make a situation more fair, well, black people usually for

545
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Speaker 5: black people. That's going to make it worse. Right, if

546
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Speaker 5: you care about recruiting more black people to have a

547
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Speaker 5: chance to get a job, then you know you're somehow

548
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Speaker 5: lowering standards. When that's not what we were doing when

549
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 5: we were going to HBCUs saying we want you to

550
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Speaker 5: apply to work at the FA or work at USDOT,

551
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Speaker 5: we were saying, we want to let you know this

552
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Speaker 5: job exists and show you the path so that you

553
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Speaker 5: can meet that same high standard that everybody has to meet.

554
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Speaker 5: But there's a lot to be gained by characterizing it

555
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Speaker 5: as something else. Right, This idea that anything that we

556
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Speaker 5: do to deal with those fairness issues is at your expense.

557
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: These numbers that they're thrown around in the post, right,

558
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: make it sound like that money went to somebody else

559
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Speaker 5: and it didn't go to you. They're trying to do

560
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Speaker 5: this same thing with Medicaid. They're trying to make people

561
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Speaker 5: feel like, well, this is just for lazy people who

562
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Speaker 5: shouldn't be on Medicaid, when we know for a fact,

563
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: because they did this in Arkansas, that what winds up

564
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: happening is it kicks off people who are eligible should

565
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 5: be getting the Medicaid, but they get buried in paperwork,

566
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Speaker 5: and that stops them from getting their benefits. There's this

567
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 5: It's a classic kind of pitting people against each other. Look,

568
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Speaker 5: I get that sometimes these honestly in their vocabulary and

569
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Speaker 5: their style, like some of these programs got out of hand.

570
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Speaker 5: I've sat through some trainings that just made it seem

571
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Speaker 5: they seem like something out of a Republican caricature of

572
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Speaker 5: what Democrats do. But they've now taken it so far

573
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Speaker 5: to the other extreme that people in Toledo or Missoula, Montana,

574
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Speaker 5: or Milwaukee aren't going to get their roads or their

575
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Speaker 5: sewers fixed because the Trump administration and the Republicans thought

576
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Speaker 5: that the program that funded it had something to do

577
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Speaker 5: with diversity. Right, that's hurting everybody. You do this right,

578
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: everybody's better off and nobody's worse off.

579
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Speaker 4: What's wrong? I guess my old thing.

580
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Speaker 1: What's wrong with diversity? America is a diverse nation. Diversity

581
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Speaker 1: built this country.

582
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Speaker 5: Look, the opposite of diversity is uniformity. And I don't

583
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Speaker 5: want to live in a country with more uniformity. I

584
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: want to live in a country where there's lots of

585
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 5: different perspectives, different values, different ideas, different politics. But what

586
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: we are headed toward now is more uniformity. Look at

587
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: what just happened with CBS, right, Oh my god, Yeah,

588
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 5: you've got somebody canceled who happens to be one of

589
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: the most effective critics of the president working for a

590
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Speaker 5: corporation that happens to have business in front of the

591
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Speaker 5: government because they're trying to get their merger rooms. Sure,

592
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 5: this is not that complicated to figure out all the

593
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 5: pieces coming together, and the net effect of it is

594
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Speaker 5: one less voice on the air that's different than the

595
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: person running the government. But the thing is, in my experience,

596
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Speaker 5: that's never been what people left right or center want

597
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: in this country. I mean, if anything, it was you know,

598
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Speaker 5: my conservative and libertarian friends that i'd be arguing with

599
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 5: over beers in college who would talk about things like,

600
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: you know, the government trying to impose censorship on people,

601
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Speaker 5: or or federal agents snatching people off the streets, or

602
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: any of these things. I used to think of those

603
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 5: as a libertarian fever dream that was never going to happen.

604
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 5: Now we see it happening under a president who claims

605
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: to be conservative. So I would like to believe that

606
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 5: one thing we could agree on as a country is

607
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Speaker 5: we want less uniformity and more diversity of thought, more

608
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Speaker 5: support for all the different things that different people. I mean, again,

609
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Speaker 5: you've spent a minute in New York City and it's

610
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Speaker 5: exhilarating to see all of the different kind of styles

611
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 5: and backgrounds, and you know that with that comes to

612
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Speaker 5: different ideas that that's part of what makes America great.

613
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Speaker 4: I think it's had.

614
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Speaker 1: It's hard to have these conversations because when you use

615
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Speaker 1: words like authoritarian strategy, a lot of people don't even

616
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: really understand what that is. And yeah, when you can say, oh, yeah,

617
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Speaker 1: Colbert got canceled, but you know he was losing a

618
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: lot of money for the network, you can just talk

619
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Speaker 1: it up to something else. But then you've got to

620
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: look at PBS being defunded, in NPR, being defunded, in

621
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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, you know, being sued.

622
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Speaker 4: This is all in a matter of like days.

623
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Speaker 5: This is systematic, yes, right, And they're doing basically any

624
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Speaker 5: place where there is independence, whether they're talking about PBS

625
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: or a law firm or a university, any place that

626
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 5: is independent is being put in a position where they

627
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 5: have to look over their shoulder because they might do

628
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: something that's inconvenient for the government. Hey, and again when

629
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Speaker 5: I say that, I sound like my libertarian buddies twenty

630
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 5: years ago. But that's what's happening, and left, right and center,

631
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Speaker 5: we should be able to come together and say, wait

632
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 5: a minute, we don't I don't care wherever you come

633
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: down on, like taxes or medicare or abortion, like, all

634
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 5: of us should be able to agree that we don't

635
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 5: want that, and that if we move in that direction,

636
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Speaker 5: if we live in the kind of country where a

637
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 5: TV show or a university could get shut down because

638
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 5: the government doesn't like them, this isn't America anymore.

639
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Speaker 4: How do you feel about the Epstein files.

640
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Speaker 1: I feel that Democrats should never stop talking about the

641
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Speaker 1: Epstein files.

642
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

643
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Speaker 1: I think it is the one thing that builds a

644
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Speaker 1: bridge between Democrats and that magabase they've been trying to

645
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Speaker 1: reach everathin Trump one reelection.

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Speaker 5: I think that's right. Look, I think there's some folks

647
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Speaker 5: who might say this is the distraction or this isn't

648
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 5: the bread and butter of what we care about. But

649
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Speaker 5: what I would say is, let's say, what you really

650
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Speaker 5: care about is legislation policy. That's your thing. You see

651
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 5: all these headlines about Epstein. But you think, to yourself,

652
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 5: what I care about is how the Congress is dealing

653
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: with healthcare, taxes, etc. Okay, well, Congress just got shut down.

654
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Speaker 5: The Republicans just shut down the United States House of

655
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Speaker 5: Representatives for two months in order to avoid having to

656
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Speaker 5: vote on Donald Trump blocking the Epstein files. So even

657
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Speaker 5: if you don't give a shit about the news story

658
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Speaker 5: or the sensationalism of it, this now affects you because

659
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Speaker 5: one of your branches of government is not operational between

660
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Speaker 5: now and September, because Speaker Mike Johnson and the Republicans

661
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Speaker 5: would rather shut that branch of government down than let

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Speaker 5: the Epstein files come out. Let that sink in. It's

663
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Speaker 5: also another example among many, many examples of Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: saying he's going to do something on day one, and

665
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 5: then something very different happens. Right. Said he's going to

666
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Speaker 5: lower prices on day one, opposite happen he's pushing him

667
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 5: up with tariffs. Said he's gonna bring peace to the

668
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Speaker 5: Middle East on day one, get peace with Russia on

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Speaker 5: day one. I don't know if anybody really took him

670
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Speaker 5: seriously on that, but that's what he says. And then

671
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 5: he says day one, these Epstein files are going to

672
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Speaker 5: come out, because at the time it was in his

673
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Speaker 5: interest to pretend that he was going to do that,

674
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Speaker 5: and now it is in his interest to block those

675
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 5: files coming out. And I don't think it's unreasonable to

676
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Speaker 5: ask why why.

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Speaker 4: Do you think the Biden administration never put him up?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I was not close to the you know,

679
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Speaker 5: the DOJ or how any of that worked. I know

680
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 5: some a lot of stuff came out, but if there

681
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Speaker 5: is really more, and I don't know, but they were

682
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: waving around these binders right at press conferences.

683
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Speaker 4: You think it would be mutually as shored destruction could be.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, we already know that there were Democrats, Republicans, like,

685
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Speaker 5: there are all kinds of people mixed up with this guy, right,

686
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 5: I think most Americans say, okay, let the chips fall

687
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 5: where they may, like, we gotta.

688
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 4: Know you're in everybody, give rid all of them, anybody.

689
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Speaker 5: Who's an abuser, anybody's committed, like of course, right. And

690
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Speaker 5: it does feel like something in this moment where none

691
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 5: of us can agree on much, that all of us

692
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 5: can agree on that. And it's especially weird with Trump,

693
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Speaker 5: right because it's not. It's not some wild liberal conspiracy

694
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 5: claim that he was involved with Jeffrey eppste There's pictures,

695
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 5: pictures still coming out now after all these years, not

696
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 5: to mention the pictures and footage that were there years ago,

697
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 5: and not just him like shaking hands, getting his picture

698
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 5: taken with the guy, but like ogling women with him, right,

699
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: like dancing and like grooving with And now he found

700
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Speaker 5: out it was at his wedding, so obviously there's something there.

701
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Speaker 5: It's not even arguable that there's something there. So I

702
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 5: think you're right that we should be pounding on that,

703
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Speaker 5: even if it's not a central policy priority of the party.

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Speaker 1: I asked some other people that were in the Biden

705
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Speaker 1: administration why they didn't, you know, release it, and they

706
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Speaker 1: said that they don't dwell in conspiracy. And I'm like, well,

707
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: now you're not dwelling in conspiracy. You're talking about an

708
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Speaker 1: obvious cover up. And this is the first time that

709
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Speaker 1: I've seen Trump supporters be agitated and angry about anything,

710
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Speaker 1: So to me, this should be they Democrats should treat

711
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: this issue away. Republicans treated transgenders in women's sports.

712
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Speaker 4: Never stop talking about it.

713
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Speaker 5: Never, Yeah, I mean why let it go right when

714
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 5: there's obviously something too. And again, it's affecting the entire

715
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Speaker 5: government now because we don't have a House of Representatives

716
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: because the Speaker sent them home because he didn't want

717
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Speaker 5: to do anything to impact Trump's ability to block these files.

718
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Speaker 4: I think that's crazy. What what is their reasoning? I

719
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: saw that. You know they're taking a reason, but what

720
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Speaker 4: the what is their reasoning?

721
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Speaker 5: I think the reasoning is they don't want to deal

722
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Speaker 5: with it.

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Speaker 4: What they say to people, I don't even know.

724
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Speaker 5: Maybe they said, actually, that's a good question. I haven't

725
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Speaker 5: even seen them, let alone a convincing explanation. I haven't

726
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 5: seen any X. Well, why would they bother? Right? We

727
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 5: all know why. So there's just no reason to even

728
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: bother coming up with an excuse.

729
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Speaker 6: So what what are your thoughts on former US President

730
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Speaker 6: Obama saying that the Democrats needs need to toughen up,

731
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Speaker 6: you know, in action.

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Speaker 5: I think he's right, although that just reminds me of

733
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: one other thing, right, which is the distraction machine. So

734
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: Trump says, we're going to re lease the files, are

735
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Speaker 5: going to lease the files, We're going to release the files.

736
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Speaker 5: And he says, we're not going to release the files

737
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 5: and people are mad, including Maggas saying, wait a minute,

738
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Speaker 5: you said you're going to release this information and you're not.

739
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Speaker 5: And what does he do, Like we're going to arrest Obama.

740
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Speaker 5: That has nothing to do with anything, but it's the

741
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: distraction machine. But yeah, as to what President Obama actually said, Look,

742
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: we have to be a party that is not pulling punches,

743
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 5: that is ready to ready to call things out for

744
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Speaker 5: what they are internally and externally. I think people want

745
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: to know that somebody's fighting for them. At the same time,

746
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 5: my personal theory of politics is you don't have to

747
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: be a dick about it. And what I mean by

748
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 5: that is that when I encounter people in actual real

749
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 5: life who voted the other way, relatives or even someone

750
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Speaker 5: might come up and say hello in like an airport

751
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: or something, I'm more likely to have somebody come up

752
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: and say, you know, I'm from the other party, but

753
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: it's nice running into you. Then to you know, come

754
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 5: up and give me the finger or something like that.

755
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 5: Why would that be Because we're humans and for the

756
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 5: most part, don't want to In real life we're actually

757
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 5: around each other. We don't want it to be any uglier.

758
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 5: Than it has to be. And yet you go online,

759
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 5: you go on TV, you get into those spaces and

760
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 5: it's different. Right. So I think the challenge for us

761
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: is we should never back down from a good fight

762
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: over what the right thing to do is and what

763
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 5: the wrong thing to do is. But we can also

764
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 5: demonstrate a way to do it that's actually inviting people

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Speaker 5: into our coalition, saying like we want you and maybe

766
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: you don't agree with us on ten percent of the

767
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: stuff for thirty percent of the stuff, or maybe you've

768
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 5: voted the other way last time, like all the more

769
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 5: reason we want you with us this time around. And

770
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Speaker 5: we need to be inviting where I think people have

771
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: viewed us as kind of frankly scolding, like we're scolding

772
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: people for not being up on the latest cultural developments

773
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: or not being the right kind of progressive or whatever

774
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Speaker 5: it is. That has to change too.

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Speaker 1: My biggest problem with democratic they it's like everything they're

776
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Speaker 1: saying now, you should have been saying two three years ago,

777
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Like we've been seeing the Democrats with coward. So yeah, yes, y'all,

778
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: it should have been tough ened ub. You know Jake

779
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: Tapple with the Original Sin and you read that book,

780
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: and you see, everybody knew that there was that Biden

781
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: was too old to run, but nobody said anything. But

782
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: now everybody wants to speak of his press secretary Karine

783
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: John Pierre, and she's an independent now. And you know,

784
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, yoh, why weren't y'all saying this two three

785
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: years ago? All these things that y'all are saying, we

786
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: the people had been saying.

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Speaker 5: I would say also that there are a lot of

788
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 5: things we were fighting for then that we're fighting for now.

789
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: The medicaid stuff is a good example, the transportation stuff, right,

790
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 5: I was, you know, sometimes we were taking hits for

791
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 5: people thinking we were caring too much about taking care

792
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 5: of neighborhoods that were underinvested in or hurt in the past.

793
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 5: I believe that it was the right thing to do then.

794
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: I believe it's the right thing to do now. But yeah,

795
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: we have to show a level of toughness in order

796
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: to be just, in order to be credible, I think,

797
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: and in order to go up against these guys who

798
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 5: obviously you can fault them for all kinds of things,

799
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 5: but they definitely project toughness.

800
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Speaker 1: And they won the culture war. Like every time I

801
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: hear Democrats talk. They talk about the work that they've done,

802
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: which is true, but what do you do when the

803
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: work isn't enough?

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00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, I think that we need to bring

805
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 5: it back to everyday life, and culture is part of that.

806
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: But so we're just the basics of policy. Like right now,

807
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 5: it's going to be harder to buy a house because

808
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: Donald Trump just added to the deficit in order to

809
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 5: get task cuts for billionaires, and that means that interest

810
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: rates are going to be higher. Right now, it is

811
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 5: growing more difficult to get healthcare because the premiums just

812
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 5: went up because how Republicans changed the Obamacare substance, or like,

813
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: you don't have to be a policy buff for these

814
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 5: things to hit you. And by the way, I think

815
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: all these things that have happened are small compared to

816
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 5: what's about to happen. This AI development that's happening right

817
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: now is not just something people should care about if

818
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: they're interested in tech. This is not just like a

819
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 5: nerdy fascination. This is going to affect how all of us.

820
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 5: It already is right, maybe in useful ways like you

821
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 5: ask chat GPT for anything, but also in terms of

822
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 5: jobs starting to dramatically change, right this is a level.

823
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Speaker 5: I mean, we lived through one version of this in

824
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: the nineties when I was growing up in Indiana and

825
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 5: trade and automation happened and it changed what was going

826
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Speaker 5: on in the auto industry. I think that this will

827
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 5: be ten times or one hundred times more disruptive. And

828
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Speaker 5: if Democrats are caught up in yesterday's culture war or

829
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: defending institutions that were getting pretty old and trying to

830
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 5: look like the protectors of a status quo that wasn't

831
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 5: serving anybody well, instead of offering some kind of answers

832
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 5: for how you're supposed to make a living and how

833
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 5: you're supposed to fit into your community when you've got

834
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: technology changing everything. If we don't have answers on that,

835
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 5: then we're definitely going to be left behind.

836
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Speaker 4: So what did the Fujita party look like?

837
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Speaker 1: Like? Is it more Pete Boudha Judge or is it

838
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: more Mundani? Is it more Josha Perro or is it

839
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: more aoc like? What does it look like?

840
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 5: Look, we're always going to be a big tent party.

841
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: I think my style is different from some of the

842
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 5: others in the party, and that's fine. Like we're each

843
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 5: going to be putting forward the version of the message

844
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: that's truest to who we are. And I think that

845
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: a younger generational leaders, many of whom are politically moderate,

846
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Speaker 5: some of them are politically pretty far left. What they

847
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 5: have in common is they are who they are. You

848
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 5: can feel it, you can just see it. That I

849
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Speaker 5: think is the future of the party.

850
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Speaker 1: And my last question, you know, Republicans clearly a fumbling

851
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Speaker 1: the ball. Trump is clearly fumbling the ball. Do Democrats

852
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Speaker 1: have the proper team now to recover to fumble and

853
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Speaker 1: actually score?

854
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 5: It was only one way to find out. But that

855
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 5: moment is on us, right, and it's going to get harder.

856
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: I mean, they're even changing the rule. They know they're

857
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 5: fumbling the ball because right now the Trump administration is

858
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 5: trying to get Texas to change the way the maps

859
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 5: are drawn so that they don't lose the House because

860
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: they think they're going to lose the House. Right, So

861
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 5: we can see signs that there's a huge opportunity here.

862
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: But Democrats also need to figure out that we're not

863
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 5: playing like normal Democrat Republican left right politics like we

864
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 5: all grew up with. This is the media environment's different,

865
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Speaker 5: the state of mind of the American people is different,

866
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Speaker 5: that the game is different. It's I don't want to

867
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 5: torture your metaphor, but it's like they fumbel the ball

868
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 5: and we need to figure out whether we're actually whether

869
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 5: it's actually suddenly turned into a game of football instead

870
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Speaker 5: of you know, soccer instead of football or something we.

871
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: Don't even know.

872
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: It's probably a free and fair election in twenty six

873
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: or twenty eight.

874
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, and again, look at what they're doing in Texas, right,

875
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 5: so never mind, you know, things they could do to

876
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: manipulate the election in a really sinister way, like this

877
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 5: is a way to manipulate the election in broad daylight.

878
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 5: If they change the maps in Texas, which by the way,

879
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 5: could technically be legal. That doesn't require anybody going in

880
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 5: and tampering with a voting machine, that doesn't require anybody

881
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 5: changing election results, and yet it changes what happens. And

882
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 5: there's a reason why they are thinking about resorting to that. So,

883
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 5: you know, we can't be my side, can't be precious

884
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 5: about all of the norms and routines that we were

885
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 5: used to and expect to win. There are things we're

886
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: not going to do. We're not going to lie we're

887
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: not going to demonize unpopular minority groups in order to

888
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 5: get ahead, Like we're not going to do the things

889
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: they do. But that means that our version has to

890
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: be ten times better.

891
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: People to judge ladies and gentlemen. So what's next for

892
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: people to just what do you have your eyes?

893
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 4: You run of a president? Stop cutting on.

894
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 5: It's twenty twenty five. You got to give me at

895
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 5: least one year to not be running for anything and

896
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 5: not be in office so I can drop the kids

897
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 5: off at school and be a human being, and then

898
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 5: you know, we'll figure it out. But what I am

899
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 5: definitely doing now and going to keep doing is speak

900
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 5: out about this stuff and try to show versus tell

901
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 5: a way of fighting for what's right that I think

902
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 5: our party would benefit from.

903
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I think you're pulling out with thirteen percent right now,

904
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: look at but do you keep you look at stuff

905
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: like that was crazy? But you're pulling at thirty percent,

906
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good number.

907
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 5: I try not to look at that too much.

908
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, people, you should look at other polls.

909
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: Pet you're married, first of all, just chill out, he said,

910
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: it's no.

911
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: I don't know why I keep coming back.

912
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 2: I don't know why exact I don't know why.

913
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: We appreciate it.

914
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: Whenever you come people, I tell you this all the time, man,

915
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: but you know, you never stop talking to our audience.

916
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: And that means something, you know, because I feel like

917
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: politicians only come around when they want something.

918
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: They only come around when it's a campaign season.

919
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: The fact that you come and just you know, keep

920
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: us abreast of what's going on all the time.

921
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: I truly do appreciate it, apreciate it absolutely right, And they.

922
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 6: Don't forget those handsteps because I want to see if

923
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 6: it works.

924
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: We're doing we're doing the conditioner and then the leaving

925
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: conditioner at night, and then in the world it is

926
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 5: it is.

927
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: I know, it's a whole job. It's a whole job,

928
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 6: all right, because you got the detangle and all that.

929
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: So look, yeah, we should talk after this.

930
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Actually have a couple of questions people to judge.

931
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 4: It's the breakfast club.

932
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.

933
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 4: The breakfast Club