1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what. I'm Jeff Kirkhon 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshon, and we're excited 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: to be back in person. Finally, I feel like we've 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of virtual episodes. You haven't been 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: in the basement studio in Pennsylvania in a while. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I've done a few different things here, by 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: the way, I've joined a little bit of your world now. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: I bought a CD the other day, a CD. I 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: think it's the first one since Elton John's Goodbye Yellow 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: Brick Road. I bought a Luke Comb's CD. I went 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: to the store to buy a CD. I went to Target. 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: It's like they don't have any CDs there because everyone's 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: got it on their phone. 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: Am I right about this? 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Nobody has CDs anymore? 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: Well, since I don't know how to use my phone 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: to call up a song very easily. Your godson Carson 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: is new who favorite song is Where the Wild Things Are? 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: So I bought that CD and now every day that 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: we drive home from preschool, I pick him up. Every 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: day we listen to Where the Wild Things Are. And 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: then after that's done, it's only a seven minute ride. 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: He says, put on fast car. So that's what we 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: do now every time we drive home from preschool. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: So I am a country music guy. 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: Now, yeah you are. I mean when you sit joining 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: my world and then you followed it up with buying 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: a CD, I have to let you know it's been 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: years since I've bought a CD. However, I am a 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: country music morning show host in Philadelphia, so and now 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: in Boston and Las Vegas. Our show is simulcast to 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: two different cities. So to Luke Colms, who I dance 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: to Luke Colmbs on my very first dance with my 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: wife Emily, And watch this hold on for our YouTube 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: listeners or watchers, I should say, and we'll put this 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: on social media. This is my ukulele. This is Luke 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: the Yuke, signed by Luke Cohen, Luke Coombs. 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: All right, that's Jeff again. 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about music, but that guy's voice 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: is unbelievable, sensational. 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: So you bought a country CD and I'm proud of 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: you for it. 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: Where the Wild Things Are And Carson Kinahan, who's three 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: years old, sings it better than I do, but we're 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: singing it together. Pop up and car car on the 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: way home from preschool every day, and. 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Not too much of a high bar for singing better 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: than you. And I have to say now, just a 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: quick housekeeping notice for everybody listening. On December the tenth, 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: So two weeks from today the release day, December the tenth, 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: which is my dad's birthday, we're going to release our 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: one year recap episode, so a best moment from each 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: of our guests that joined us. So that's going to 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: be a really exciting episode. 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: Right, Jeff. 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: The best part of our podcast this year was the 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: guests that we had on and so we're going to 59 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: take the best clip from all all thirty five podcasts 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: that we did, and we're gonna put it into a 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: compilation and it's gonna run on my sixty eighth birthday. 62 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: What a great birthday present for pop up. 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: And we have a guest for today's episode, Jody. She 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: is incredible. She is the producer and the co author 65 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: of the original book Rally Caps. You were featured in 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: a movie streaming right now, so we're gonna talk to 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: her a little bit. I don't want to give too 68 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: much away, but you were playing yourself. Took a lot 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: of practice to get those lines down, didn't you, And 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: so we're gonna be talking with her. She is so incredible. 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: We loved getting to chat with her about dad's acting 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: ability and of course her relationship with her father is 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: what inspired this book turned movie. So it's gonna be 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: really neat to talk to her. 75 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: It's a really inspiring movie. And I as for my 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: part in the Jeff, we'll discuss that when Jodie's on, 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: because I think there's an Academy Award in it somewhere 78 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: for a cameo for. 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: A cameo, Yeah, because you're in it about twelve total seconds, 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: maybe less than that. Last than we'll get to rally 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: caps in a minute with Jody. We're excited to chat 82 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: with her, but we have to talk. I know it 83 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 1: was just last week, but the awards that came down 84 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Manager of the Year, cy Young, Rookies of the Year, 85 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: and of course the MVPs. 86 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: Right, so we'll start with the Rookies of the Year. 87 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: Paul Skeens won of the National League. Jackson Merrill had 88 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: a great year to beat out Jackson Merrill tells you 89 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: how great Paul Skeens was. You could make a case 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: it's certainly one of the greatest rookie seasons ever. His 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: one ninety six era was the lowest by any rookie 92 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: pitcher who made at least twenty starts in the live 93 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: ball era nineteen twenty one. And Jeff, as you know, 94 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: I work the All Star Game from the dugouts. 95 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: Now I've done it for years for. 96 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: Radio, So I'm in the dugout when games are going 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: the All Star Game is going on. And granted it 98 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: was his first All Star Game, he's starting, but I 99 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: watched Paul Sken's pace up and down that dugout about 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: ten times. He didn't look at another soul, he didn't 101 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: say a word. 102 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: He was in a trance. 103 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: And this is the focus that he has that makes 104 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: him such a great picture. And when I checked around, 105 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: like is this a one, you know, one time thing 106 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: for him, guys who know him saying no, no, no, That's 107 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: how he is all the time. Once he gets in 108 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: that zone, there's no getting him out until he comes out. 109 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: Of the game. 110 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: So one of the great rookie years ever. Paul Skins 111 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: Luise Heel won in the American League, certainly not as 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: good of a season, but he was the American League 113 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: pitcher for the month of May. And let's not forget 114 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Garrett Cole was injured during that time. They needed someone 115 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: to replace Garrett Cole. If Garrett Cole hadn't gotten hurt, 116 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Luis Heel might not even have been on the opening 117 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: day roster. Instead, he was an absolute dominant starting pitcher 118 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: the first half of the season, and for the season, 119 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: his batting average against was one eighty nine, which was 120 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: the lowest in the Major Leagues by any rookie pitcher. 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: So two really good rookie pitchers won the Rookies of 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: the Year. 123 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that's incredible. Let's go on. I don't want to 124 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: get ahead of myself and talk about Show Hey and 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. So can we go to Managers of the Year? 126 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: Yes? 127 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: So Steven Vote won the Guardians manager Jeff He had 128 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: been a coach in the Major leagues for one year. 129 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: He had never managed anywhere. This was his rookie year 130 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: as a manager, and he did a tremendous job, which 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: came to the surprise of no one who knows him well. 132 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: I wrote a story for ESPN dot com in spring 133 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: training and I must have quoted twenty five people who 134 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: all said, oh, he's going to be a great manager. 135 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: That's an absolute no brainer. And Max Munsey, one of 136 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: his teammates with the Oakland A's, told me he will 137 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: be on a path to be a Hall of Fame manager. 138 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: Wow. 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: He told me this before Stephen Vote ever managed a 140 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: game in the major leagues. And it's because of his 141 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: communication skills, his ability to deal with people, not just players, 142 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: people of all kinds. And it's in part because his 143 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: parents when he was in high school two sports star 144 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: in high school. His parents made him do something artistic 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: in high school, so. 146 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: He was in all the school plays. 147 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: Like you, he can sing, he can dance, and this 148 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: was his way to relate to all sorts of people 149 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: was to get out from behind, you know, the jock 150 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: culture in high school and join some other culture which 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: allows him now to relate to everyone. 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: What about in the National League Pat Murphy. 153 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Pat Murphy did a great job for the Milwaukee Brewers. 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: Keep in mind, the previous manager for the Brewers was 155 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: Craig Counsel. His mentor was Pat Murphy. He brought Pat 156 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: Murphy into basically teach him how to manage. And you know, 157 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: Craig Counsel is one of the best managers in Baseball. 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: So now the. 159 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Professor Pat Murphy takes over for Craig Counsel and they 160 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: win the NL Central going away, I certainly didn't see 161 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: that happening. Also, Pat Murphy is a very innovative guy 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: for an older guy. 163 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: I mean he's almost as old as me. For an 164 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: older guy. 165 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 2: He's very inventive, He's very you know, he always finds 166 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 2: a new way to get about things. I remember writing 167 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one he told all the pictures on 168 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: the Brewers. He was then the bench coach of the Brewers. 169 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: If you draw a walk in a Major League game, 170 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: this is when pictures were still allowed to hit. If 171 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: you draw walk without swinging the bat during and at bat, 172 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: you will get a four foot wooden statue that will 173 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: stand up in your locker as a tribute to you. 174 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: A pitcher drawing a walk in a Major League game 175 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: without out swinging the bat, meaning it just shows plate 176 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: discipline everything else. That was a Pat Murphy idea and 177 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: that kind of innovation that he would use, which also 178 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: got a big laugh from half of the most of 179 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: the team. That's one reason why he's the manager of 180 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: the year. 181 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Let's move on to our Cy young Award winners and 182 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Trek Scoobel right. 183 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: He was a unanimous choice for the Detroit Tigers, as 184 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: he should have been. He won the Triple Crown of 185 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: pitching that is, of course, led the league in wins, 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: era and strikeouts. No one else should have gotten a 187 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: first place vote. And what makes him so special, Jeff 188 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: is he throws one hundred miles an hour, but he 189 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: has an elite change up. And when you have an 190 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: elite change up and you've got a hundred in your 191 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: back pocket, you can't look for one hundred. Otherwise you're 192 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: not getting to the change up. And if you look 193 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: for the change up, you have zero. 194 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: Chance of getting to one hundred. 195 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: He is going to be one of the dominant pitchers 196 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: in baseball the next five years because he's a big, strong, 197 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: wildly competitive kid. Onto the National League, Cy Young right, 198 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: and Chris Sale won. 199 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: He did not win unanimously. 200 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: Which was a bit of a surprise because he won 201 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: the Triple Crown. 202 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: In the National League. 203 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: But your boy, Zach Wheeler of the Phillies led the 204 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: league and innings pitch had a tremendous season. So I 205 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't go against anyone who voted for Zach Wheeler. But 206 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: I had an an al Cy Young vote this year, 207 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: and I voted for Chris Sale. And he's also the 208 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: comeback Player of the Year in the National League because 209 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: of all the time he's missed with injuries and then 210 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: to go out there and have that kind of season 211 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: really impressive. 212 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Talk about injuries. For his teammates and his fellow pitching staff, 213 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: they needed somebody to step up, and he needed to 214 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: be Chris Sale of old and he was the best 215 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: Chris Sale we've seen, right, absolutely, speaking of the best 216 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: the MVPs, where do we even start with these two? 217 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: How cool was it to have both MVPs in the 218 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: World Series up against each other despite them both not 219 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: playing very well? But that doesn't matter. Aaron Judge the 220 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: AL MVP, right. 221 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: The unanimous Ale MVP, as he should have been, Jeff. 222 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: When you start to look at the really advanced metrics, 223 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: which I don't look at very often, I must tell 224 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: you because I'm not sure I truly understand what the 225 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: advanced advanced metrics say. But the Aaron Judge twenty twenty 226 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: four season is certainly one of the greatest ever by 227 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: a right handed hitter in baseball history, and for him 228 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: to get off to such a slow start and then 229 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: pull it together and then carry that team and do 230 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: it all while playing center field on an above average 231 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: defensive level is really impressive. And every time I watch 232 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: him play, and of course I saw him throughout the postseason. 233 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: To do what he does at that size six seven 234 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: eighty two is just remarkable. I've told you a million times, Jeff, 235 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: this game is built for shorter people. 236 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: Willie May's hank air and. 237 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: Had the perfect body to play the game, and they 238 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: were like five eleven one eighty five six seven two 239 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: eighty two, and he runs like a deer and he 240 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: can really move in the outfield. 241 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: And then of course, show Heyotani, all. 242 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: Right, so show Aotani won his third MVP. All three 243 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: have been unanimous. No one's ever won more than one 244 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: MVP unanimously. He's already got three, and this one wasn't 245 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: as impressive as the other two because he was pitching 246 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: in the other two. But it's still amazing that he 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: gave up pitching, had to because of an injury. He 248 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: takes on a full time DH roll, which he never 249 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: truly truly had, and then goes out and says, all right, 250 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: what can I do that no one else has done? 251 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: He goes fifty to fifty with room to spare, first 252 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: player ever fifty homers, fifty steals. And I told you, Jeff, 253 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: when I checked with the Dodger guys in spring training 254 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: about tell me what you've seen from o't After two 255 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: or three weeks, one of their coaches looked. 256 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 3: At me and he goes. 257 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Everything this does, this guy does is surgical. Every swing 258 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: he takes, every time he throws the ball, every step, 259 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: every move he makes on the baseball field is all 260 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: designed to make him the best baseball player he can be. 261 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: And he is like no one we have ever seen. 262 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: We will never see anybody like him again. And now 263 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: Frank Robinson, one of the most underrated players of all time, 264 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: is no longer the only player to win the MVP 265 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: in both leagues. Shohei Otani just joined him. 266 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: So, Dad, since we're finally back in person, we can 267 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: bring back It's in the cards even though we're in 268 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: the offseason. Tops actually just released their twenty twenty four 269 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Chrome box, So I went on Amazon and I ordered 270 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: it because I'm seeing people. Everybody's going crazy right now. Dad, 271 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: defined Paul Skins one of one signed MLB debut patch card. 272 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: Did any of that make sense to you? 273 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 3: I've seen this. 274 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: It's like the modern day Golden Someone is going. 275 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: To open up a box, a packet of cards. 276 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: What if we found it? 277 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to make it abundantly clear. If we 278 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: find this card in here, Tops did not send us 279 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: this pack. I ordered this on a little tiny startup 280 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: website called Amazon dot com, and I had them deliver 281 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: it to my doors. 282 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: If we find Paul, Paul find that card in there, 283 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm retiring. I'm not gonna do the podcast anymore. 284 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: All right, all right, so here we go. All right, 285 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: let's start with Yankees. Austin Wells. A nice card there, 286 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not a card collector, right, so I don't 287 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: know a hologram versus you know, there are people out 288 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: there that dedicate their lives to this. 289 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: By way, Austin Wells, let me quickly tell you. So 290 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: he and Buster Posey are the only rookie catchers ever 291 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: to hit cleanup in a postseason game. Oh, the history 292 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: of baseball. So I used that on the air because 293 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: I was doing the Yankee games, and some guy wrote 294 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: in he goes Austin Wells is a rookie. He looks 295 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: like he's thirty five years old. So I went to 296 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: Austin Wells next day and I said, you look older 297 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: than you know, twenty one years old or whatever he is, 298 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: and he goes, well, it's the mustache. 299 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: He goes. 300 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: If I cut off the mustache, I cut off like 301 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: fifteen years of my life. 302 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: So that's what you say about me. 303 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: I don't have a beer when you don't shave, Jeff. 304 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: When you shave your you look like you're fourteen. When 305 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: you when you don't shave, you look like you're thirty four. 306 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. Next one, Uh, probably my favorite first name 307 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball Slade Blade Seconi. 308 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: That's a beautiful name, Jeff. 309 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: Every day I look at the pitching matchups in baseball, 310 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: and you look at some of the names that we have. 311 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable that the bizarre first names that we have, 312 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: especially for pitchers in the big leagues today. 313 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Former guest of the show from last season, Aaron Nola. 314 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: We get a card from Aararonola and Jeff. 315 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: I spoke at the ALS Foundation dinner a couple weeks ago, 316 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: and I cried all the way through my speech about 317 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Uncle Matt. 318 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: Not the point. 319 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: The point is everyone there has been touched by ALS 320 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: in some form, as has Aaron Nola. As you know, 321 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: he donated money for every strikeout that he got last year. 322 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: For the Philly Yea. 323 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: His uncle passed away from ALS, so he has that connection. 324 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: There we have the World Series MVP Freddie Freeman, a 325 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: holographic looking card there. See, I'm so bad with these cards. 326 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: Right, Well, Jeff, I know we've said this before, but 327 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: I feel even more confident that Freddy Freeman's twenty twenty 328 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: four World Series was the greatest World Series performance ever. 329 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: He drove in twelve runs, which ties the World Series 330 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: record with Bobby Richardson, who did it in a losing 331 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: cause for the Yankees in sixty two, and he did 332 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: it in seven games. Freddy Freeman did it in five games, 333 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: and every run that he drove in was critical to 334 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: that win. And of course, his walk off Grand Slam 335 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: in Game one, the only walk off Grand Slam in 336 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: Major League World Series history, completely broke open won the game, 337 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: of course, and broke and changed the series. And that's 338 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: how the Dodgers won is because of Freddie Freeman. 339 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: All Right, Two more holographic cards we got a Joe Musgrove. 340 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: Oh, Joe Muskgrove is one of my favorite guys. But 341 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: he's got Tommy John so he's gonna miss the twenty 342 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: twenty five season. But what a funny what a smart guy. 343 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: He came to the Little League World Series a few 344 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: years ago. He watched the Japanese team take infield and 345 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm standing right next to him, the Japanese taking infield. 346 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: It's the greatest infield I've ever seen in all the 347 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: kids are twelve years old. 348 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: He was so impressed. 349 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: He said, I bet these kids came to the ballpark 350 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: dressed in a coat and tie like that's how beautiful 351 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: that infield was. And only Joe Musgrove could think of 352 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: something like that. 353 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Andrew McCutcheon our final pull for this pack. 354 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: Well, we're hoping, of course, that Andrew McCutcheon does not 355 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: retire after this season, because he's one of the great 356 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 2: ambassadors of the game. He's a tremendous player. And as 357 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: I've told you before, Jeff, if we're going to have 358 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: a talent contest in the major leagues, I think Stephen 359 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: Vote is going to be the leader in the clubous. 360 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: But number two is Andrew McCutchen, who can really sing. 361 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: He can do tremendous impersonations, including Eddie Murphy and that 362 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with this, but Nicole Brisco 363 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: works for us at ESPN, said to Andrew McCutcheon, can 364 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: you do Tim Kirkchon impersonation, which of course is the 365 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: worst impersonation ever? And when I left, he did an 366 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: impersonation to me. They showed it to me as always terrible, 367 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: but it was hilarious. 368 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: So that's Andrew McCutcheon, keep playing. The game needs you. 369 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: That's it's in the cards with the Tops Chrome twenty 370 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: twenty four pack. We do have five more packs to open, 371 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: but we're not going to do him on the episode. 372 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: We should do a little opening special on our YouTube page. 373 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: So if you don't follow us on YouTube, you can 374 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: actually watch the entire podcast. You can find it is 375 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: this a great game or what search on YouTube. Make 376 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: sure to subscribe. It's completely free. Every episode that you 377 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: see or listen to is going to be seen in video, 378 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: which is great. Now, before we get to Jody of 379 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: Rally Caps, I want to hear on this state and baseball. Yeah, 380 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: we had some. 381 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: Really fun birthdays starting in nineteen sixty with Harold Reynolds, 382 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: my dear friend from ESPN. I worked with him for 383 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: years and years of baseball. Tonight, I could tell you 384 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: a thousand Harold Reynolds stories. But he told me once 385 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: when he was with the Mariners early in his career, 386 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: the Seattle hadn't really gotten used to the Mariners. It 387 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: took a little time for them to really catch on. 388 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: And Harold's he was run of the streets of Seattle 389 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: in the off season with his Mariner's shirt on. It 390 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: was a big sweatshirt Mariners, and a lady like stopped 391 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: him and said. 392 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: Oh, you're in the Marines. I'm so proud of you. 393 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: Now I say, no, I play for the Mariners. She 394 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: got a little confused after that. Harold also was told 395 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: me once about the first time he ever faced Nolan Ryan. So, 396 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Nolan So, Harold's rookie, and he weighs like one hundred 397 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: and fifty five pounds, and Nolan Ryan is the greatest 398 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: power pitcher ever and the hardest picture to hit of 399 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: all time, and as mean as a snake when he 400 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: needs to be right. So Harold takes a big swing 401 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: against Nolan Ryan, swings and misses and he gets knocked 402 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: down by Nolan Ryan on the next pitch because one 403 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five pound guy took a home run 404 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: swing against Nolan Ryan and he was so angry he 405 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: knocked him down. And Harold looks at Nolan Ryan and says. 406 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: I didn't even hit it. That wasn't the point. 407 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: The point is you don't take a swing like that 408 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: when you're a rookie against Nolan Ryan. Also in nineteen fifty, 409 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: George Orto was born RTA. George Orta was a good hitter, 410 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: played the World Series, did some really big things and. 411 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: I always love that. 412 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: Occasionally with the White Sox he played next to Vance 413 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: Law in the middle infield, so the second basement shortstop. 414 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: Were called Law and ordered right, So we love that. 415 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: And the last one, of course is Larry Gura, and 416 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: I think I told you this story. 417 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: Larry gour was born in nineteen forty seven. 418 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: You know, crafty little left hander for the Royal. So 419 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: my buddy with the fourth Worth Star Telegram. 420 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: Did his. 421 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: Winter Meetings preview on what do we think is going 422 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: to happen to the Winter Meeting. So he and he's 423 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: got each team, he's got possibilities for trade. So he 424 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: has Larry Goura in there and he says he probably 425 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: won't be traded. 426 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: Because he's a ten and five man. 427 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: That's ten years in the league, last vibe with the 428 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: same team, which gave him no trade right, so he 429 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't be traded. But my friend accidentally wrote it 430 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: as a five and ten man and one of the 431 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: editors changed it to and it ran in every edition. 432 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: Larry Gore probably won't be traded because he's five foot ten, 433 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: all right, this short picture. It's hard to trade a 434 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: short picture. It's not right, a good point. He's a 435 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: ten and five guy, not a five foot ten guy. 436 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: That's amazing that's in this state in baseball history. And 437 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: coming up next, we're going to be joined by our 438 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: friend Jody, who is the producer on the movie Rally 439 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: Camps and the co author. We were so excited to 440 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: talk to her about my dad's performance in the movie 441 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: and that this movie is super inclusive, fun for the family, 442 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: and we'll tell you all about it. Coming up NeXT's 443 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: this a great game or one? And we are joined 444 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: right now by Jody Michelle Cutler, who saw something in 445 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: my dad as an actor, instead of just a broadcaster. 446 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: My dad is involved in a movie that Jody has 447 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: created from bare bones, from nothing. She was the co 448 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: author of Rally Caps, the book, turned producer of the 449 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: movie streaming right now on Peacock. Jody, thank you so 450 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: much for joining us. 451 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. 452 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: It is an honor, a privilege, and I have to 453 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 5: say the father son dynamic is exceptional. It is the 454 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: vibe that is perfect for the moment. Tim you are 455 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 5: an icon and that is why you are in our movie. 456 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 5: So thank you for blessing the movie with your presence. 457 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: It is just another dimension because you're in it. 458 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, well, thank you. 459 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 6: Let's be clear, though, I think I'm on camera for 460 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 6: like eight seconds for the entire movie. Okay, calling me 461 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 6: Edny any sort of movie star here, Okay, I'll play myself. 462 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 5: The most critical moment you say, put the rally caps on. 463 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: It's what the whole movie is about. And so I 464 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, Jody, what did you see in 465 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: this thespian of my father? 466 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: You know he is. 467 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: He regularly says he's only good at three things in life, baseball, 468 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: mowing the lawn, and feeding the dogs. That's what we 469 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: thought as kids, the only three things he can do. 470 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't think acting was on that. I was the 471 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: theater one in our family, to a point where Jody 472 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: he told me that he was going to be in 473 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: this movie. He told me when he was going to 474 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: star in Brockmeyer. And both times he called me and said, 475 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: can you give me some sort of acting tips or advice? 476 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: And I said, Dan, you're playing yourself. 477 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: And that is the key. 478 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 5: Yes to play Tim kirk was in fact Tim Kirchin. 479 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: All right, stellar performance. 480 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: All right, Well let's get off of this. 481 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the movie. 482 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 6: Jody, where did the idea come from for you and 483 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 6: your dad to write this movie? 484 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Where did it come from? 485 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 5: So my dad has been my coach ever since I 486 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: was a small child growing up in Baltimore, and we 487 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 5: played basketball, softball, and we were just always a family 488 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 5: that was passionate about baseball. And he wrote a short 489 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 5: story about him getting hit by a baseball bat during 490 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 5: a practice and sent it to me. 491 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: I read it and I'm like, oh, that's really cute. 492 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: It could be a good book. I mean, like flippantly, 493 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: not actually thinking. 494 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 5: My father would be persistent in every single conversation after 495 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 5: that would be Jody Howse Jordan write the book because 496 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: in the meantime, my son was born and we moved 497 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 5: to Italy where he was diagnosed as death. So at 498 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: the moment where my father had this unbelievable idea and 499 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 5: short story, I was trying to teach my son how 500 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: to speak Italian because I wasn't allowed to speak English 501 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 5: with him. 502 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 4: And at a certain point my son was doing really well. 503 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: He had had hearing aids. We decided to get a 504 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: cochlear implant for him. At the moment in which he 505 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: got that cochlear implant, because of all the work that 506 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 5: he'd been doing with speech therapy with his hearing aids, 507 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 5: he flew. The cochlear implant gave him access to language 508 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: and sound that he needed to be able to be successful. 509 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 5: And when I saw my son becoming independent, I said 510 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: to my father, I'm ready to write the book. I 511 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: want there to be a strong deaf character who uses 512 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: listening and spoken language, who wears cochlear implants in literature, 513 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 5: because there is none for my son to read about. 514 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: It's really important to see yourselves in literature. And from 515 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: that moment, my dad and I collaborated from Italy to 516 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: Florida and boom, here it is. Here is the book 517 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 4: that is on the cover. 518 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 5: There's a character with the cochlear implant. That was really 519 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 5: important for me. So my dad has always been a 520 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: huge fan of yours. 521 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: Tim. 522 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 5: He just thinks you're wonderful and you've always been really 523 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: kind to my dad and all the interactions that you've had. 524 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 5: He's always followed you throughout your career. And when the 525 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: book became a movie, he reached out to you. I 526 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 5: know that you were supportive of the book, and then 527 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: you became a star in our movie. 528 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, sa Can you give us the line, 529 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: let's put on our rally caps? 530 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have to say it. 531 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: I really have to be in the ballpark. 532 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: I have to be in character. 533 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 6: Jeff, all right, let's play on the rally caps. And 534 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 6: I also got Jordan. I also talked to Jordan about pitching, like, 535 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 6: why can't you go out there and pitch? 536 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: That was pretty important part of the movie too, right. 537 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: Jony, It was because he was suffering anxiety. 538 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 5: An important part of the movie is that our main 539 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 5: character suffers anxiety as a result of being hit by 540 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 5: the baseball bat and what the movie does is work 541 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 5: through a child's anxiety, and you came in in a 542 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 5: dream sequence where he was having that anxiety, and you 543 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 5: made it worse his anxiety because he saw your face 544 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: and you were telling him he needed to really ge't 545 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 5: move it. 546 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: So there was that which is fitting because as the 547 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: son of Tim Kirkshon, I can tell he suffers from 548 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: his own anxiety. He has dreams like that it's time 549 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: to get up, Tim, time to write another book of himself, 550 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: telling him that the story your past deadline. Tim, we 551 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: know that you know that pressure, that anxiety. I think 552 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: the representation Jody of deaf characters was so important, not 553 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: only in the book but also in the movie because 554 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: it is so important You're right for kids and young 555 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: adults to see themselves in the characters that they love 556 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: to watch on television or in movies, right. And I 557 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: think it's so cool that you were so open about 558 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: that process for children who are deaf, who go through 559 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: cochlear implants, and then to the same degree, those who 560 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: have suffered from anxiety, right like you saw with Inside 561 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Out to another great movie that talks about anxiety and emotions. 562 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: These movies are able to allow children to say, hey, 563 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: you know what I have been through that exact moment, 564 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: and I thought you guys did a really good job 565 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: of representing those groups of young people. 566 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: That's really kind of you to say. 567 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 5: I want to say that our director Lee Chippola the 568 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 5: anxiety aspect, he really related to that and it was 569 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 5: a very important part of how he wanted to film 570 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 5: the movie, Like the dream one of another dream sequence 571 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: that we filmed at Field of Dreams that actually happened. 572 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 5: Jeordie was walking through the cornfields and it just so 573 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 5: happened while they were filming that that a tornado warning occurred. 574 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: So instead of the sky being sunny, it was like overcasts. 575 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: So that added to the to the anxiety. 576 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 5: And we have an important actor aside from Judd hirsh 577 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 5: and Amy Smart is coach ballgame and he really is 578 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 5: focusing like he just had an Instagram post talking about 579 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 5: the importance of a child experiencing failure because we want 580 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: children to experience emotions, and the movie makes it okay 581 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 5: for kids to have emotions, especially young boys, which oftentimes 582 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 5: is not the case in everyday life. 583 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: Well, Jody, you bring up a really good point in 584 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: sports as well, and we've had some great guests on 585 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: the show. Jeffrankore comes to my dad, who talks a 586 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: lot about youth sports, but how even as great of 587 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: an athlete as he was growing up, this is not 588 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: life or death right. The kids are supposed to out 589 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: be out there having fun, and especially young boys. And 590 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: you know, respectfully, I've had coaches not my dad, who 591 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: were very tough on me and made it really hard 592 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: to love the game that I grew up loving. But 593 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we have to remember 594 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: this is supposed to be fun. I mean, it's a game. 595 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: And when you talk about deaf representation, and I know 596 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: Dad wants to talk about Curtis Pride making an appearance 597 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: more than just an appearance in this movie, I mean 598 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: really being able to represent as a deaf major League 599 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: baseball player, former Major League Baseball player. How cool was 600 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: that to get him a part of this movie's mission. 601 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 5: Well, Curtis Pride played a very important part in my 602 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 5: life because when I came back to the United States 603 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 5: after my son's diagnosis in Italy, I went to a bookstore, 604 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: sat down and opened The first book that I opened 605 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 5: was called Choices and Deafness, and I opened right to 606 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 5: his story and his parents used listening and spoken language 607 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: and he wore hearing aids and I did not know 608 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 5: that deaf people could could hear or speak at that time. 609 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 5: So he opened my world and flash forward. My father, 610 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 5: of course involved in this as well, had participated in 611 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: Curtis Pride's charity whiffleball tournament, so he had established a 612 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 5: relationship with Curtis. When we put out a casting call 613 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 5: for the deaf actors, we really wanted deaf actors to 614 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 5: play the deaf actors. Representation does matter and it's very important. 615 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 5: Curtis Pride said, oh, I have two children. They could 616 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: be perfect for the movie. And so Lucas, who plays 617 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: the deaf actor, is Curtis's son, has single sided hearing loss. 618 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 5: And Noel, who plays Nicky, is his daughter and she 619 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 5: has bilateral profilend hearing loss. 620 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: And then Curtis, as you know, has a cameo in 621 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: the movie. 622 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 5: So everything came full circle and we just found the 623 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 5: most beautiful and perfect people for the characters. 624 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: Dad, that totally makes sense why Lucas was such a 625 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: good player. I texted the dad when we were both 626 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: watching the movie. I said, that kid can hit well. 627 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 6: That's because I told you Curtis Pride is his father. 628 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 6: He's one of the greatest athletes you've ever seen. He's 629 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 6: a tremendous soccer player. Also, I love that so Jody 630 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 6: getting back to Baltimore. I mean, it was such a 631 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 6: beautiful Baltimore theme to this. 632 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: And Brooks Robinson, who's like the greatest Oriole ever in 633 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: anyone who ever met Brooks rob and I knew him exceptionally, Well, 634 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: how much did it mean to you to have such 635 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: a great Oriole connection. 636 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: In this movie. 637 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting that you talk about Brooks because that's 638 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 5: another person who was extremely kind to my father throughout 639 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: the entire book process. 640 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: I actually road tripped to Toronto right after. 641 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: The whole Udo sucks moment of the Orioles All Star 642 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 5: Game and they didn't put Messina in at the end 643 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: of that All Star game. My girlfriend Julie and I 644 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 5: we road tripped to Toronto and who did I run into? 645 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 4: Brooks Robinson. He was like hey, and I was like hey. 646 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm gonna put you in the air, like 647 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: all right. So it was it was very special. 648 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 5: We grew up everything Orioles and my dad's my dad's 649 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 5: good friend gave him a lot of memorabilia that were 650 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 5: used in the scenes. My dad is a huge memorabilia collector, 651 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 5: but his friend helps him out with this, and it's 652 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 5: just everybody from Bottimore was involved. I grew up in 653 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 5: Baltimore and was raised with the Orioles, So it's just 654 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 5: it was, it was, it was everything. It was really 655 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 5: lea family oriented and that was an important part of 656 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 5: the movie as well. 657 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: Jody, There's one moment where jud Hirsh, who plays our 658 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: lead character grandfather, is talking about his daughter, who is 659 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: obviously lead character's mother, talking about her ability on the field. 660 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: How cool was that because it kind of sounds like 661 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: the relationship between Amy Smart who plays Mom and grandfather 662 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: Pop is similar to you and your dad's. Is that 663 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: am I gathering this right? 664 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: Okay? 665 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 5: So jud Hirsh's character Pop is named after my grandfather Pop. However, 666 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 5: that specific scene that you're talking about really happened. 667 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 4: That was me and and it was a scene from 668 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 4: the book. That was the first time I felt like, 669 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: oh my god. 670 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 5: My book is a movie and Amy Smart is me 671 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 5: and it was. It was one of those It was 672 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 5: one of those surreal moments that I still can feel. 673 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 5: I can feel because I got hit by Marcy. She 674 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 5: was this really big woman and girl and at the 675 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 5: time I was playing Libertally Road Girl softball and she 676 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 5: hit a line shot to the to the picture, which 677 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 5: was me at the time, right in my leg. I 678 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 5: mean I doubled over. My dad comes rushing to the mound. 679 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: What's doing? Get up? We have to finish the finish 680 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 4: the game. So that actually happened in real life. 681 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 5: And yes I did hit a home run after, but 682 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 5: I mean I had like a bruise this big of 683 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 5: a softball on my leg. 684 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 6: Jody, I wanted to ask you, a lot of the 685 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 6: kids in the movie look like they could really play. 686 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: And it's one of my pet peeves. 687 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 2: If you're gonna have a movie, a baseball movie, especially, 688 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: you gotta have some kids who look like they've played before. 689 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: How was that process to try to find kids who 690 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: actually look like they've played before. 691 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: That's really interesting. 692 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: One of the best parts of producing the movie was 693 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 5: casting the movie. I will say that my dad and 694 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 5: Lee found Carson, who's not only an exceptional actor, his expressions, 695 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 5: his work ethic, and his ability to play baseball were 696 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 5: just amazing. 697 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: There We. 698 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 5: Spent so much time making sure that the kids could 699 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 5: play baseball that we eventually got to the point where 700 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 5: we wanted a child who wasn't that great at baseball 701 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: and like Ted Sayer Prayer when he's. 702 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 4: On the mound doing that pitching and it just doesn't work. 703 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 5: We chose him specifically for that ability not ability, and 704 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 5: so the casting process was a lot of fun because 705 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 5: we were looking for people to play and they brought. 706 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: It and very selfishly. I think it was so cool 707 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: from the Kirkshin family to Rally Caps the grandfather character 708 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: named after your dad Pop, my grandfather, My dad's dad 709 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: was Pop. And then my dad's first grandchild is Carson, 710 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: who is the actor's name who plays Jordie. So there 711 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: was just so many cool connections when it comes to 712 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: this movie and our family, and then of course the 713 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: shining star in all of his glory, Tim Kirkschin as himself. 714 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: Excellent job, Dad, Ody. 715 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 6: As far as the kids teaching the kids how to act, 716 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 6: that's not an easy thing either. 717 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 5: What was that process like, Well, we filmed at Camp 718 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 5: Scattiko in upstate New York, and it was right we 719 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 5: were still at the edge of COVID, so we had 720 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 5: to mask while we were doing the filming, and the 721 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 5: kids it was like everybody was a camp, so it 722 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 5: was a sleepover camp. We quarantined them basically to not 723 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 5: have any problems about COVID. So during the day they 724 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: were filming, they had to break for school because that's 725 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 5: a requirement. And then at night they were playing dodgeball 726 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 5: and killing each other inside the bunks. It was like 727 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 5: cast and crew all together. And I can tell you 728 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 5: Curtis Pride, he can throw a dodgeball. And there were 729 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 5: no holds barred and so the kids loved each other, 730 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 5: had the best time, and so we didn't even have 731 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 5: to really give them any directions. They just loved each other. 732 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 5: It was spontaneous. It's just that's the greatest thing about kids. 733 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 5: They're authentic and that authenticity really shows through in the movie. 734 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 4: So we got very lucky. 735 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 3: Judd Hirsh is a very decorated actor. 736 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 6: What was it like working with a guy who's been 737 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 6: nominated for an Academy Award? 738 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 4: I can tell you this. 739 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 5: Jud was on the phone to Steven Spielberg while he 740 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 5: was filming Rally Caps and the first time I talked 741 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 5: to him I was in Italy and he was speaking 742 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 5: to me in Russian practicing for the character I jud 743 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 5: Hirsh's part with Amy. 744 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: They filmed in LA and the kids filmed in New York. 745 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 4: I was not there for the La part, but. 746 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 5: I did something called Rally Caps Hearing Loss Awareness Day 747 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 5: at eight Major League ball parks. That's part of what 748 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 5: we want to do is raise awareness to hearing loss. 749 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 5: And the first Rally Caps Hearing Loss Awareness Day we 750 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 5: did was at City Field and jud came. 751 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 4: He came because he wanted to support what we were doing. 752 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 5: He was such a wonderful man and it was so 753 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 5: kind of him and his wife, Catherine is a huge 754 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 5: Mets fan, So all I can say is that he's 755 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 5: very intelligent, kind, loves kids, and was just a pleasure 756 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 5: to meet. 757 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 4: He's a wonderful person. 758 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: Well, Jody, thank you so much for sharing Rally Caps 759 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: with the world. Your book as a co author and 760 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: now producer of the movie available on Peacock right now, 761 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: streaming to your home. Perfect for the family to sit 762 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: down and enjoy something that's family fun and baseball centric 763 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: and so inclusive to so many different communities. Jody, thank you, 764 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. I've got my rally caps 765 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: cap on here. Thank you to your dad for sending 766 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: it over my way because I'm a big hat guy 767 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: and so I really appreciate it. And Jody, thank you 768 00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: for being honest. Is a great gamer? 769 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 4: What great meeting guys and talking to you. I really 770 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 4: appreciate it. 771 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: Thank you so much Jody for joining us on Is 772 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: This a Great Game or What? Two weeks from today, 773 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: so that'll be December tenth, my dad's birthday, which is amazing. 774 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: We are going to do a very special episode of 775 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: Is This a Great Game or What. We are going 776 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: to take you through our favorite interview moment from each 777 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: of our interviews. 778 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: On the show this past season, right, and I can't 779 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: wait to hear him again, even though we were a 780 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: part of all these Steve Russian, Mike sure, Cal Ripken, 781 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: Jim Palmer, Johnny Bench, and of course Jeff frank Coor 782 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 2: telling us about the time he played golf with Tiger 783 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: Woods with the blessing of Braves manager Bobby Cox, our 784 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 2: favorite story of the season. 785 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: And so many others. Two weeks from today, December tenth, 786 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: mark down in your calendar. Make sure you're listening. Subscribing 787 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: share it with a friend and follow the show. Thank 788 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: you so much for listening, and as always, thank you 789 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: for being a part of our family.