WEBVTT - Shane Douglas returns

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<v Speaker 1>right now. This is Eyes up Here, and you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>and listening to an all new Eyes up Here Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a creative control network and everywhere in between. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know by now my name is Chad. Every single

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<v Speaker 1>week I'm joined here by the the rocking out Queen

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<v Speaker 1>of Extreme, Francy Francine. I threw a little curveball. I

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<v Speaker 1>brought a little uh extra production values at this broadcast today.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we allowed to air guy clip? It is very

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<v Speaker 1>approved and safe stream Yard issued background. Oh yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was a very nice time. You need to need to

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<v Speaker 1>see more of that in the future. It adds to

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<v Speaker 1>the the whole shebang of the show. I feel it's

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<v Speaker 1>very funny. There's a lot of choices, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that one worked with our theme of extreme. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a theme. Well, you're it's the Queen's Extreme podcast. True, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>francis Extreme podcasts. So it's extreme extreme. Everything's extreme these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Everywhere you go, everything's extreme. Right. Oh yeah, Well, anything

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<v Speaker 1>happening in either one of our worlds. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it matters what isn't happening? Yeah, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I really would love to get into it a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've I'm working with four different people on four

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<v Speaker 1>different projects that have to do with with wrestling and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit beyond. And you know, you work on

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<v Speaker 1>all these projects and it's exhausting because ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of them never happen. You just work and work and work.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm like, I'm not throwing all my eggs

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<v Speaker 1>into one guy's basket. Like I've read the eggs around,

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<v Speaker 1>which doesn't sound right. Let me rephrase that, reads the

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<v Speaker 1>eggs around. Okay, basket, No, that didn't sound correct. You

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<v Speaker 1>figure one out of four is a good percentage. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I can get one of these projects to take off,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be a happy camper. So I've just between

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the kids are back to school this week,

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<v Speaker 1>doing the homeschooling thing. You know, husband's doing his thing

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<v Speaker 1>at work. I got the kids here, my mom's here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm handling phone calls. I knocked out my cameos this

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<v Speaker 1>morning early. So it's been a productive week for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been pretty good. We closed the pool, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sad about. Summer's over. I can't by, but we did

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<v Speaker 1>book a little more of Disney, so that made me

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<v Speaker 1>happy again. So things are happening. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a very exciting text message from a friend about

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<v Speaker 1>a new opportunity that somebody's interested for me. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm excited, and I don't know if anything's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, but the possibilities are there, so I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>The possibilities are endless. I wouldn't say they're endless, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple on the table. Okay, pretty good for

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<v Speaker 1>this old broad So I'm excited. I'm happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's great. See the fifty and

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<v Speaker 1>Fabulous tour. I can't use I can't stop the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>The bus has to keep going for a while. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it been being home last couple of weekends because

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<v Speaker 1>you were traveling a shitload at the end of your Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, it's been nice. And I said before,

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<v Speaker 1>like September, Shane and I are we were booked on

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<v Speaker 1>one thing and then the guy canceled, which kind of

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<v Speaker 1>was a blessing. Well it was a blessing because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get the kids started with schoolwork and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I look at October, and I'm booked three

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<v Speaker 1>weekends in October because I just got another booking this

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<v Speaker 1>week for October, and I'm like, wow, okay, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to enjoy this time off because then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>once October and November and December. Hey, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot coming up. So I cherished the time home. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to get back on the road too. That's great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this time of the year. This is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a fun time. You know, whether it should be changing,

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<v Speaker 1>but down in Virginia stays ungodly hot. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite time of the year. And it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>time of transition, especially after Labor Day. It's like that

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<v Speaker 1>next little wave of the rest of the year is

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<v Speaker 1>going to unfold and who knows what's going on. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're planning your Disney trip for next year already. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things. It's like there's only a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit left in the year. Yeah, so yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>And this year flew by and it was a busy

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<v Speaker 1>one and I'm really thankful for it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the time that I do have off, I love spending

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<v Speaker 1>it with the kids and the family. Been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been just hanging out doing stuff together and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been nice, enjoyed. What what'd you do for the Labor Day? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we just chilled. It was just a very relaxing weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight food of course, like everybody else, we went and

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<v Speaker 1>got an abundance of comfort food and just hung around

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoyed the weather and hung out. So it was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's very good. There's a ton to talk about there,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But we do have a special guest we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to get my excuse me for one second,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the people. I have to grab my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I left it in the other room. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>So hold on one second and talk to the people. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because he just texted me, Are you guys calling me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I calling in to you guys? So let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell our guests that we're going to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>He just texted me. He just it was right. I

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<v Speaker 1>could see it from where I was sitting, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just that much out of reach where I could

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<v Speaker 1>have get it. He's like, are you guys calling me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I calling into you guys? He just has

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<v Speaker 1>to click the thing and I'm just I just read chat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to call you get ready, Well, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to click. I'm sitting Tell them you do it? Come on?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how he is by now? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's it's not like he's a first timer. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's in the five time club. Now is this

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<v Speaker 1>his fit appearance on the show? Oh? Boy? Well he

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<v Speaker 1>deserves it the five times? Is he the founding member

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<v Speaker 1>of the five time? He's one of those guys who's

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<v Speaker 1>been there every step of the way he has been. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do a long intro for him. Uh, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>my partner now for thirty it's thirty years. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>from that intro you would know who he is. We

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<v Speaker 1>on the line yet, hold on, I'm doing the one. Okay, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>With everything that has happened in the wrestling business since

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<v Speaker 1>his last appearance chat and I thought it would be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to get his views on current events and also

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<v Speaker 1>Vince McMahon and what's going on with him. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a video of him at his what was it his

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seventh birthday party or something and a new lady

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<v Speaker 1>friend who could be pr and could be a love interest.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he did not want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to tmzret the cameras. But I know who likes to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the cameras, and that is our friend the franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Douglas, who will be joining us here in just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. Shortly, shortly, Okay, he will be appearing soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's gonna have a lot to say about this

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<v Speaker 1>because when when the ship hit the fan, my phone

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<v Speaker 1>blew up and it's him. That was all him for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, saying what about this? What about that? And

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<v Speaker 1>between the text messages and talking on the phone, we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed a lot of it off air. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>you guys to hear his thoughts because you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>very smart to the business and he has a great,

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<v Speaker 1>a great view of what's going on, which might be

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<v Speaker 1>different than mine. It might be the same as mine,

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<v Speaker 1>might be different than yours, Chaid, but we'll see when

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<v Speaker 1>he comes on. So that's going to be exciting. I

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<v Speaker 1>almost think that this is more of a compelling story

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<v Speaker 1>than Vince leaving WWE. I have stuff, guess what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on this past week. I think it's almost more of

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<v Speaker 1>a compelling development for the wrestling world than Vince McMahon

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<v Speaker 1>leaving his company. You know what, I think it's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's up there because think of this, what

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<v Speaker 1>if things continue to crumble for ae W and Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Kahn's dad. It's just like no more. I'm done. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what is he there? You hear us? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening? Oh? I can't see the quaff. I'm very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>It's magnificent. It is more magnificent. We'll call it today,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it a crest. A crest. Yeah, very good. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you look handsome as ever even though we

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<v Speaker 1>can't see you. Thank you for right now I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have your hands under the angelical pose that

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<v Speaker 1>you do for me all the time it's been it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a hot minute since I talked to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to you this morning a little bit through text.

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<v Speaker 1>But how are we today? Are we running errands? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are we on the road? Yeah? This whole labor day stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time it's a holiday like this, it throws my

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<v Speaker 1>entire schedule off. I woke up this morning thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>was Thursday morning that I was due to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. So I'm running around pack of my bag,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I looked out at my phone and I

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<v Speaker 1>see Wednesday, and yeah, because when you had said to me, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>moose has me doing something? I'm like on a Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>this is weird. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Will Shane let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you there's a lot going on in the wrestling world.

0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.520
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I don't and I don't know

0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.520
<v Speaker 1>if you have an opinion on it, but I wanted

0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to see if you did. So Chad said, you didn't

0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.840
<v Speaker 1>even hear anything until he texted you. How can that be? Yeah,

0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I live under a rock. When I'm home, you know,

0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm either reading or you know, doing paperwork or whatever.

0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.800
<v Speaker 1>And I closed my door and shut that twilight zone out. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was it. Day before last, Chad, when you sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a link and I was close, he said, you know,

0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.079
<v Speaker 1>got to talk to everything that's going on. And when

0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I clicked on it, you know it's again, this twilight

0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.680
<v Speaker 1>is overliving and like everything you look at when you

0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.800
<v Speaker 1>first look at it, like that something that crazy, you

0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.439
<v Speaker 1>assume that it's a worker, it's it's it's eight up

0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.040
<v Speaker 1>because it's so outlandish. But once I started reading the

0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:10.960
<v Speaker 1>different links and working my way through that, yeah, like

0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, you said it a second ago. Freddy a

0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.240
<v Speaker 1>hot mess. Right, This is a like from where I

0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.680
<v Speaker 1>come from in the business. You know, no place for that.

0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's ah. But you know, somebody else that

0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to said, you know, this is what

0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.640
<v Speaker 1>happens when you let the inmates run the asylum. And

0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess from what I've been hearing again like full disclosure,

0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't follow it that closely, but hearing from friends

0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.800
<v Speaker 1>of mine inside the company saying, hey, the kids won't listen. Well,

0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that being an option when the rob

0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was a kid in the business. And now you have

0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:46.240
<v Speaker 1>this situation where it's bleeding out, you know, locker room

0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff bleeding out into the company. You know, look, full

0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.200
<v Speaker 1>disclosure to any company, right, any company has this kind

0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of water cooler garbage going on. Most companies keep it

0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.720
<v Speaker 1>under wraps and keep it in the back rooms. You know,

0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.240
<v Speaker 1>when it starts to bleed out like that, it's a

0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.520
<v Speaker 1>really really bad look for the company. I agree. And

0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the one thing that I have said, and I even

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<v Speaker 1>said this from the last time they had a press conference.

0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:19.080
<v Speaker 1>If you compare Tony Kahn to Vince McMahon or even

0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to Hunter right with the way they handle their business,

0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it is like ae W looks so bushly to me.

0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:34.760
<v Speaker 1>They are cursing, they are It just looks so unprofessional

0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.000
<v Speaker 1>for running such a huge organization. Say what you will

0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.800
<v Speaker 1>about Vince McMahon, he has never dropped a n F

0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.960
<v Speaker 1>bomb in a press conference that I've heard. You know,

0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it's one way to talk like that behind the scenes,

0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're in the locker room, because we all know

0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys talk like truck driver, it's exactly we get it.

0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.400
<v Speaker 1>But when you're in front of people and you're promoting

0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:04.920
<v Speaker 1>your company, that it just looks so bid. I'm watching

0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Tony Kahan dropping F palm after f and his crazy

0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.680
<v Speaker 1>eyes are all over the place, sweating, and I'm just like,

0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.200
<v Speaker 1>what is going on with this man. I know he's passionate,

0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.720
<v Speaker 1>which is wonderful. Sure, I love that about him, but

0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.800
<v Speaker 1>there's there's just there's a way to handle things. Yeah,

0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and after three years, you don't know that this is

0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.160
<v Speaker 1>not the right way to go about things. Yeah, yeah,

0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. Look, it's uh, the world is well

0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.080
<v Speaker 1>aware of the wrestling world is well aware of my

0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.200
<v Speaker 1>personal feelings about Vince McMahon. But Vince is a professional, right,

0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's how he built that empire. Uh. You

0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.520
<v Speaker 1>can disagree like I do, with a lot of his decisions,

0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but you're never gonna hear him, you know, drop an

0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:53.360
<v Speaker 1>F bomb on USA. I'm going to wonder, like where,

0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.640
<v Speaker 1>first of all, where T and T sits on this,

0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>because you know they they you know, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>in this press conference for the company that you air

0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on your on your network. You know, I'm guessing there's

0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.600
<v Speaker 1>probably a little bit of cha grint on their side

0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.080
<v Speaker 1>with that. But uh, you're right. I mean, when you know,

0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Tony seems I've never met the guy, but it seems

0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 1>incredibly passionate about it. Uh. And that's great, That's a

0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.399
<v Speaker 1>huge necessity if you're gonna be running a promotion. Uh.

0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.919
<v Speaker 1>But when you're going on there and it seemingly to me,

0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.240
<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong again, to those links that

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I looked at, it looked as though he were choosing

0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:33.359
<v Speaker 1>sides publicly. And you know how many times Franny and

0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Paul like have a team meeting after the show, uh

0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.720
<v Speaker 1>for exactly this thing like personal stuff was bleeding out

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.240
<v Speaker 1>into the camera lens. And you know it didn't happen often,

0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.199
<v Speaker 1>but there were times, and we dealt with that in

0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the dressing room. Uh it's it's again completely unprofessional. Look,

0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I keep seeing these things where can

0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 1>people just throw me loot links? Where Tony's comparing himself

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to you know, the Bischoff and Vince and Paul Hayman,

0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.199
<v Speaker 1>and look, each of them had their quirks, right, but

0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't recall much of that. Gum Paul a little

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 1>bit different beasts because ECW was a different beast. But uh, yeah,

0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:18.080
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, in anything, you don't air your dirty

0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.040
<v Speaker 1>laundry in public, and that's the kind of stuff it.

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.000
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like must have been festering for quite a while.

0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.919
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, just like each link that came sort of

0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.800
<v Speaker 1>made it worse. You know, like this thing was evolving

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:37.080
<v Speaker 1>into you know, like insanity and now I won't add

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.720
<v Speaker 1>something you like, you know, several months ago, seven, eight, nine,

0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.560
<v Speaker 1>ten months ago, I started seeing noticing, like at conventions

0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and signings and things, fans coming up and saying, you know,

0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.520
<v Speaker 1>they'd be a fan of AW, but they're out. And

0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I would inquire as to why it

0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.720
<v Speaker 1>would be a lot of this kind of stuff. You know,

0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.840
<v Speaker 1>there's there's you know, multiple answers, but it's that you know,

0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff we as boys in the business talk about,

0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the spot monkey stuff, no storylines, the KFA

0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.159
<v Speaker 1>being that, that kind of stuff. But you know, I

0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>would imagine all of those people now what you've just

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.359
<v Speaker 1>done is you validated all of them. So like the

0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.040
<v Speaker 1>ones that are tuned out over that last seven, eight, nine,

0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>ten months, I'm guessing they're gonna say, well, I'm not

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.840
<v Speaker 1>because of stuff like this. It's there's no place for it.

0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's our business being a work. It's the

0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>fantasy of the work that brings the fans in, right.

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.840
<v Speaker 1>They want to forget about their job, their life, their

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.440
<v Speaker 1>twilight zone whatever. And now you're bringing your twilight zone

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to them and giving it to you know, nicely wrapped package.

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It just looks really po dunk, really blow apart. So

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:55.359
<v Speaker 1>an opinion that I kind of have, just being on

0:19:55.400 --> 0:20:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the outside looking in. I see it like the are

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 1>going into business for themselves for a live television right. Yes, Now,

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 1>if you're Tony Kahin, are you such a mark? Which

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.120
<v Speaker 1>are all marks for the business. It's not an insult, right,

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.199
<v Speaker 1>but you want to be one of the boys so

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.639
<v Speaker 1>bad that you're going to let people get away with

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>this and it's going to end up hurting your company. Yes,

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.439
<v Speaker 1>Like from a business standpoint, that just blows my mind

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.200
<v Speaker 1>because you're going to give up something that you worked

0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.680
<v Speaker 1>so hard for to be accepted by the boys. Yep,

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I just don't. I don't get it. Well, I agree again,

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.879
<v Speaker 1>it's into that professionalism like sometimes the guy running the

0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.359
<v Speaker 1>business or the person running the business, like for instance,

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Dixie Carter. We've often talked about this right where Dixie

0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.160
<v Speaker 1>would say no, I'm not on air talent on management

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and through that separation because there are times when those

0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:56.679
<v Speaker 1>characters have to be separated. Mister McMahon the character is

0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.960
<v Speaker 1>very different than Vince McMahon in the back is the Professon,

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.000
<v Speaker 1>although there are similarities to Sam guy playing the characters, right,

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Vincent Man, the boss of the company,

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 1>does things very differently than Vince McMahon the character Mister

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.479
<v Speaker 1>McMahon the character would do on screen. But you know,

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you're first of all choosing sides when ultimately, if you're

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the boss, you have to be the referee in that

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff and not in the way of refereeing

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.359
<v Speaker 1>saying I say do this or that. It's got to

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.080
<v Speaker 1>be Okay, let's listen to your side, your side in

0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a room, not with all the boys and talent and

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 1>crew and fans looking in. We do this behind closed doors.

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you're saying about like the passion and

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you know the time that they've put in, what about

0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the money, I mean millions and millions of dollars and

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you know, you're airing this dirty laundry

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.879
<v Speaker 1>out in public and it's just a really, really bad look.

0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that so many people are talking about this, uh,

0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.119
<v Speaker 1>tells me that a lot of people have eyes on

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 1>aw right now for all the wrong reasons. Yeah, agreed,

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:10.399
<v Speaker 1>especially when you know you have something like Vince McMahon retiring,

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Hunter takes over and are over the two million mark

0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 1>now for the first time in years. Yeah, and I

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 1>do think that AEW's numbers are going to start to

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>plumb it because of this. Well they've you know, again

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.639
<v Speaker 1>from my outside looking in. You know, I saw a

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago they were down to the threes, were they? Yeah,

0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.480
<v Speaker 1>they and they've been as high as one one point

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.959
<v Speaker 1>one million. But you know, since the beginning it is

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.360
<v Speaker 1>October what two and a half years ago, we've watched this,

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, jump up a little bit, fall back, jump

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit, fall back. This is not the

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, with that being the paradigm that they've said. Uh,

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.919
<v Speaker 1>and now this happening. I don't want to get you know,

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>too far out in front of my skis, but you

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>have to start asking yourself. Have they become all they're

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be? Or can they grow that company? Can

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>they at some point stand on on two feet and

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.119
<v Speaker 1>challenge you know Vans? I think right now that's a

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 1>pipe dream. Uh. They certainly have the wherewithal to do it.

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>There's talent, they've got the money, uh, the outlet with TNT,

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>but they you know, somebody's gotta be the boss there

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and start to move everybody's energies in the same direction.

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Instead of punk being over here and that you know,

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy being over there and a still being here someplace,

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they're all over all the checkerboard, right,

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and no one consistent message. Shane, Who do you think

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.919
<v Speaker 1>is kind of at fault in the whole entire argument?

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it one side is yelling louder than the other

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.400
<v Speaker 1>so they should be heard, or is it everybody's kind

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of sharing equal blame, because you shouldn't a throw your

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>colleagues under the bus publicly like that, but also you

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>should not get violent and go after them backstage. Oh absolutely,

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's no place for that in any business, right. Uh,

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>but you know I would think that, you know, finger

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>pointing is one thing. I mean, I think you're hitting

0:23:57.720 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the nail on the head here. You have a lot

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>of people going a lot of different directions, like just commenting,

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>not putting this one first, second or third. I watched

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a you know, punk in a press conference ostensibly for

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>the company, and you know, swerves off and says this stuff. Now,

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>look to me, that would be a place where you say,

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in the mood and I'm not going to

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>do this here, but I'll be back at the hotel

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>in half an hour. Anybody wants to talk to me there,

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll be ready. It's private, you're you're you're now doing

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>it on your time. The stuff going in the dressing

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>room absolutely has no place in our business. I used

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to you know back in the day. Uh, everybody hasn't

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>paid attention that we're living in a vastly different world

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>today than than back then. And you know, I think

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of blame to go around, but ultimately,

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>ultimately this falls on the head of the guy at

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the top of the ladder, right, which will be Tony's

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>on which during the fracae, he's still in the media scrum,

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>never got out of his seat, And during the Jericho

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>portion of this, sco I felt it was embarrassing that

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>he was literally kissing the ass of Chris Jericho and

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about stories of going to the ECW Arena to

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 1>see Jericho's debut and remembering the tights that he wore

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and he wanted to replicate that at the pay per view.

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>All the while his company is in turmoil behind the

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>closed door, with security guards running past the media quote

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 1>unquote media, and he's sitting there, you know, a sense

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>extensively sucking the you know what of Chris Jericho in

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>front of the cameras well. I mean, the being an historian,

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the equivalent would be narrow fiddling while Rome burns. Right.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's something on this list was a little

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>more important than the other things. And you know, again,

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>first of all, they're not too far gone, right, I mean,

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>they still have a lot of eyes on them, some

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of a network, but I would hope that right now,

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>as we're doing this interview, that Tony Kahan, his management team,

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>whoever that may be, or sitting down and trying to assess,

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>like where do we go wrong? How do we fix this's?

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>How do we stop it going ahead? I mean, we've

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>heard this for how long from friends of ours inside

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the business, inside the company, right that the inmates are

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>running the asylum. Nobody will listen well when that goes

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>on and is allowed to persist in any business, but

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>especially wrestling, or a lot of ego and a lot

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of uh you know, uh, piston vinegar. You know they're

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>in that dressing room. A lot of egos, uh, you know,

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 1>left unchecked, that'll rear its head at some point. It

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>looks like you started to in AW. I kind of

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like now this is showing my age being in

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, in it for the moost thirty years. I

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like the dynamic I know right, I feel like

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the dynamics of the business have changed drastically. I feel

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>like there was a lot more and it's not for

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>every single person performing today. There's there's there's certain people.

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the level of respect for for not

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>only wrestling, in general before each other has plummeted, and everybody,

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're in it for themselves. And I just remember,

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like if I ever had a problem with somebody back

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>in the day, I would keep it to myself, and

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>even if I had to work with them, I would

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>go like nothing ever happened, because it's good for business.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>It's good for the company, it's good for my pocket,

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it's good for your pocket, right well, and the other

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>stuff is bad for all those things. Right, So like

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>if you know, if you're out in the ring and

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you and your opponent, everybody knows there's real heat there

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that can be utilized in a way, you know, to

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>draw money. But ultimately you've got to know I can

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>send these two talents to the ring and that I'm

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 1>going to break out into a shoot. Yeah. First of all,

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>shoots are boring. You know, if anybody's watched a you know,

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a bar fight, you know, hardly as eloquent as a

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>good wrestling match. But yeah, but you know, the respect

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 1>thing you're talking about. I don't know if that's just

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Johnny come lately in our business, but I like in it.

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, again in my old age, right that that

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody is a narcissist today because everybody feels compelled that

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>what I have to say is so important. I got

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to stop right now and get on the internet and

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 1>tell the world what I'm having for lunch, chorret that

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking my dog for a walk, or that I'm

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>scratching my ass, And so that puts me into business

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>for myself. Right, you guys are worried about your stuff,

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>but I gotta get online and tell the world what

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Shane Douglass is doing at this very moment. And I

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>think that's now bleeding over right. You have everybody in

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that dressing room thinks they're the most important call or

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>only their point of view matters. And you know, unfortunately,

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, those of us that are grown up, you

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>know know that that's not how the world operates. Most times.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>You've got to co exist with people that you may

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not like, especially in the workplace. And you know this

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>is a workplace, you know, so you know, again, I

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>go back. I don't want to be savage on it

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>or anything, but like it's time for Tony kN to

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>stand up and if he wants to be the next

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Vince McMahon or Eric Bischoff or Paul Hammett or whoever

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>to stand up and take control of that company. If

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you remember Freddie we had there were some of this

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>with Paul too, that would allow this stuff to sort

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of fester on. And it was like the boys in

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the dressingroom sort of took that under their own wing

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and sort of resolved it. But you know, you cannot

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>have the inmates running the asylum. You cannot have somebody

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>thinking they're more important than somebody else, or their point

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of view is more important than somebody else. And again

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that starts at the top. Well, speaking of the top,

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>we're going to go from one subject to another because

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked to you since this happened. What are

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on Vince McMahon stepping down as chairman and

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>CEO of w W E. Yeah, us right, I mean

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a tectonic shift in our industry. You know, my entirety

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>in the business. Vince McMahon has been a major CagA

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that you know, and those of us that know him

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and have worked for him knows that there was no

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>way that you know, he would just say Okay, it's

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>time to retire and go off to the beach and

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>have a my tie or Margarita. The way that it happened,

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the ignominious way that it happened, I think is, you know,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>puts a really bad mark on what he had done

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>in the industry. You know, he had taken it to the

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the heights that none of us could have ever imagined.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you remember, we first talked about

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>this privately, you know, like just sitting around bs and

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know we said that, you know, if there

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>was one of these payments, there's going to be more.

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know the fact that they I think they've

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>done an amazing job at keeping it from spiraling out

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of control because you know, those of us again that

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>have worked there know that there was a lot of

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff going, but that they sort of narrowed that down.

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that Vince's resignation is what allowed that to happen.

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>If he hadn't retired, that he hadn't moved on, I

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>think a lot more magnifying glasses would have been put

0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>on there. I'm just curious as to how retired quotation

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>marks around it he really is. But you know the

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>fact that you can see new blood in there stirring

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>it up. And you mentioned it a minute ago, Franny

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>about the ratings increase. That tells me that the fan

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.479
<v Speaker 1>base is still solid, but it's also alarming that the

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>fan base has chosen by and large to stay away

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>from the industry for how long. You know, got to

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>get it back to what it's supposed to be. And

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>if you do that, if you build it, they'll come.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think WW is proving that right now. It's

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>but's I'm not gonna give final judgment yet, but so far,

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>so good. Let's see if they keep moving in the

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>right direction. Will you miss him? Shane? You know my

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you know renowned my my experiences with events right now,

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>but we're two different people, not going to ever get along,

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>probably never going to agree on approach to the business.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>That said, he's you know, achieved amazing heights of what

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>he's done, and you can't. Ultimately the bottom line, the

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>final analysis, you have to judge based off the body

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of work. And you know, he's again taken wrestling from

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the smoke filled arenas to mainstream and you know, back

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty forty years ago that would have been unheard of.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't even imagine as I was a kid in

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Siffic Arena watching Berno and Dominic and all

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of those guys. You couldn't imagine that kind of a

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>future for wrestling, and you know he's responsible for that.

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>But he's also responsible for like where we've seen the industry,

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it collapses with you know, all the

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>territories and how many people employed and how many fans

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>have left. There's always the yin and yang, right, you

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>can't give the glory without giving the final epitaph. And

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a responsib for that too. So I think any

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>fair analysis of Vince's history in the business will be

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>a compendium incredible ship and some bad shit as well.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>So just wait and see it. To me, there's always

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>another chapter with Vince. Sung's waiting to see what that is.

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like, like Chrispin Waffer example, a totally different,

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, different thing, but he was erased from the company.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:11.239
<v Speaker 1>If this was anybody other than Vince McMahon, is this

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>severe enough to be exiled and never spoke of again?

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>The way he manipulated these women? Or is this is

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>this a pass because you know, I know it's Vince,

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But if it was somebody else, do you think they

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>would have been forgotten about? Oh? They would have been

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>pushed out the door. You know again, Ila Chris right,

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, and I'm not comparing it to murder, you know,

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>murdering or anything like that, but I'm just saying this

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>is this is a heavy accusation, very serious and and

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>uh you know again how that plays out. You know

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>again we're look, I think we're witnessing in the world

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>right now, there's you know, very enunciated two tiered system,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>right like somebody at the top of the heap can

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>do something, somebody down that ladder probably can't. Uh. But

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, to me, I this stuff that these accusations

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and allegations very seriously. You know, if somebody in a

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>position of power like Harvey Weinstein uses that to do

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>something illegal against a woman or anybody, you know, I

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>think that should be called out. Uh, you know, but

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>the hush money, it's again how they've sort of that's

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>pushed out the window rightly, and now Evince retired like

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>nobody's talking about it. And and I hope for the

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>women that were that they get the justice that they're due.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>But you know, again, full disclosure, I am one million

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>percent against the cancelations stuff. Uh, you know, getting canceled

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>because you've you know, stepped on somebody's toes and angered somebody. Uh.

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I've made a lot of mistakes in my life. I'll

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>make a lot more other people have, uh, you know.

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>But I think again, it's the yin and yang you've got.

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna sit there and talk about this and say,

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in canceling somebody, but somebody that does

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff must be held accountable to it.

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And what is accountability? Is it leaving your own company

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>a mid seventies and a bank full of money, or

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is there some other come up inst to that. You know,

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>it's I think everybody should be treated equally and get

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>treated the exact same when they do something that that

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>heinous I agree on. Just going back to the earlier topic,

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to ask both of you guys this

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and kind of an open ended question. Did either of

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you ever see anything even remotely close to this unfolding

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>in front of the public like a fractice in the

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>locker room. I know it was a different time. It's

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>hard to maybe get some information out, but have you, guys,

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>either of you seen anything similar to this in your

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>time in the business. Franny, I've seen fights in the

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>locker room, but they were resolved in the locker room. Yes,

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. I again I said, if I had a

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>problem with somebody and I went to the ring, I

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>never showed that I had a problem with somebody. Things

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:11.919
<v Speaker 1>were discussed behind closed doors. I think we were all

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>under the same mindset that it's not good for business.

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Like Shane said, you don't air your dirty laundry, you

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So there have been times where

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and Shane knows, I've jumped in the middle of things,

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>tried to, you know, use my womanly charm to get

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>people stop fighting, and it didn't work, and stuff like that.

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>But when you're again, when you're on the road with

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>somebody four or five days a week, you become like

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, brothers and sisters, that it's a family. People fight,

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>people don't get along, egos get involved. But it never

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>escalated to the point where we couldn't control it. Yeah,

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and again, rarely aired it in public, right. I mean,

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the internet, Shane, so it wasn't It

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, you know, there's a mole in the locker

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>room and somebody leaks it. Maybe it was in one

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of the dirt sheets, which it wasn't as powerful as

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>like a Twitter or an ig today, So it was

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it was a different era. It was a different time.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we got away with a little bit more than

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>today because we didn't have all the resources to put

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it out there. Yeah, for sure. And again that you

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>know we're you know, human beings are creatures of habit, right,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm used to if I'm one of the younger

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>kids that every day I get up and I get

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 1>online and I tell the world what's important to Shane

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Douglas at that moment, and now we go into the

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>dressing room and something like that. I got to go

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>back now and tell my fans what happened, right, because

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>they heard a rumor, So I gotta get on there

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and tell them Shane Douglas aside. And what do human

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>beings always do? They try to get people in camps, right,

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 1>So are you are you one of my allies or

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you somebody else's ally. And you know that it's a

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just a perfect cocktail for crap, right. You know

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that this is going on now and there really only

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>one way to fix it. From where I said, like,

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>whoever the boss is has to say enough of this.

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're moving on, and if you don't want

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to move on with us, no hard feelings, well give

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you your release and move on. But things like that

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>have to be dealt with. And I'm popming in my

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.760
<v Speaker 1>head as I'm saying that. You know how many times

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in ECW history did somebody in the audience do something

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to one of the family and suddenly there was a

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>near riot going on exactly, you know, protecting each other.

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Now you know we The funny part is is like

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>when you hear those stories, a lot of those guys

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that were involved in the stories that you know, got

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>attacked or whatever. I'm sure they probably had people in

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the dressing room that they didn't get along with, but

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>nobody stopped dressing the door and said, oh wait, it's

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that person. I'm not on his side, so i'most I'll

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>stay back here. Uh. Resolved differently, And you know, it's

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>did we do it perfectly? Absolutely not. I'm not insinuating that,

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>but you know, a lot of wisdom and not airing

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>your dirty laundrey. And it just to me seems so

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>soap operas and so unprofessional that for a company that's

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 1>portending to be like the next big number two. Uh,

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're gonna be in this arena. We're gonna

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>sooner or later challenge Vince. You know I think that

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, again I said earlier, we're seeing now that

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it looks pretty much like they've become what they're gonna be.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, they can do they want to stay in

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that and you know, and that that permanent number two

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>spot distant number two? Or do they want to with

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>all that money they're spending and all that talent they

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>have there? Do they want to grow that company and

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, get it back to a point where there's

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a viable number two and uh, they'll never do it

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>with this kind of stuff going on. Well, words of

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 1>wisdom from the franchise. Absolutely, that's what we needed on

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>this Wednesday morning. So Shane, have you ever beat anybody

0:39:53.880 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in a fight? Have you ever got to fight somebody? Yeah?

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was going to bring that up, but

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>whenever I saw that being reported out there, you know,

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>biting and pulling hair, I'm thinking, boy, thank god Bill

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Watson is still in charge right because somebody had been

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>fired over that. It's uh yeah, it's strange. It's uh

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>but again, like it's just I'm trying to in my

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>head as we're talking about this, imagine being in that

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>dressing room where this kind of stuff starts spiraling out

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of control. And you know, we've all been in those

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>dressing rooms, right where stuff goes a miss and gets

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>off track. But it always seemed to me there was somebody,

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>whether it was an elder statesman in the in the

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>dressing room or the boss of the company, which steps

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>forward and you know, make it pretty evident and clear

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>what what they expected, what their expectations were, you know,

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>by seemingly taking sides in this. You know, it's just

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that, you know, So it's again uncharted territory,

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 1>uncharted waters, right, it's uh, but very consistent with what

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>we've seen, not necessarily you know, act for act, but

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>consistent with what we've seen out of this company since

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, where it looks like they're starting to get

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of momentum and then something like this happens,

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>or a exploding ring match that looks like a sparkler

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and it just, you know, it just takes

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it right off that highway into the off ramp again. Yeah,

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>all I can say is I hope they get their

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>ship together because I have some friends that work there

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and I would hate for them to be out of

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a job. So I hope they pull through. But I

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you coming on. This was the last minute thing. Yeah,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and I also you know, I'll talk to you soon.

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>But you and I have an appearance coming up in October.

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Ye that we're going to be doing. Uh where is

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it Fort Wayne, Indiana? Yes? Yes, there is? Is that?

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>What is that called? I always here? Is that heroes

0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and legend? Is that here is a legend? Yes, So

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll be uh, we'll be appearing together and I'll have

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 1>all the info on Twitter. I think that's the next

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>time I see you. So uh, until then, I bid

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you adieu, but I will be I will be speaking

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to you, I'm sure sometime this weekend. So yeah, for sure,

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>absolutely did talking to you guys, but it reached out

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh, let's keep eyes on and see what happens

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>in our industry. Yes, absolutely, thank you so much, buddy,

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you so. Appreciate care. Bye bye. It's

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>always good to get his two cents because he's very wise,

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>absolutely business and I love hearing what he has to say,

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and if I didn't cut him off, we would have

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>been here for another three hours. So I would have

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>said on the edge of my seat for every one

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of those minutes exactly. But we don't have three hours

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to kill, so we had to say goodbye. But he's great. Now.

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me ask you this though, so you

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and I can kind of rap about it back and forth.

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>And again, I'm not asking anybody to pick a side.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying who's right or wrong. But if you

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>had to kind of say one party versus the other party,

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it may look the most at fault. Do you see

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>anybody that does or do you think, like we had

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>just said with Jane, like that is just everybody's kind

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of in the wrong, and you know, it's just a

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>shitty situation. I feel like I don't understand why the

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 1>personal stuff with cold Cabana is being brought into because

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he's not even in a storyline with Cole, Like they're

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>not even working together. So why are we talking about

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>him having a joint account bank account with this month.

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>That's because of the dirt sheet, guys, But but I mean,

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>what does it have to do with why are we

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>discussing this that because in all the media leading up

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to this pay per view, people were talking about how

0:43:55.960 --> 0:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>now that Punk is back, Cabana is exiled and the

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>people who Punk says were leaking that narrative to the

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:10.919
<v Speaker 1>wrestling press were the executive vice presidents. So okay, So see,

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that part about it all. I see

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>all I was saying with her there was a backstage

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>altercation with the Bucks and and Uh and Punk, but

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know the tie in with Cold. So I

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>know that the history with Cold, and I you know,

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I met Cold. He's very sweet. I've been in locker

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.879
<v Speaker 1>rooms with Punk several times. He's been very sweet as well.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a bad word to say about either

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of them. I just don't like the I paid your bills,

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you share a bank account with your mom? Like what

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>those are like low digs to me, Like it shouldn't

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>have been said. I feel I don't know, and I

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know they were Punk. What's that? That's what you

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>get with Punk, I suppose. So, I mean, I never

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>had a problem with him at all, but I you know,

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you you hear sir and things. I just don't like

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the dirty laundry being aired. I don't like that that has.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>When you do a press conference, shouldn't it be like

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a work and shouldn't you just focus on the storylines

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 1>that are going on and not deal with all the

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>real bullshit. I mean, that's like we said earlier. You

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>know in this broadcast, you deal with that privately. You

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>don't put it out there. You don't let people in

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>on backstage. There's no cave abe, it's dead. It's been

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 1>dead for years. I just don't see why things are

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 1>not kept private when they should be. And there is

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a mole in that company that is leaking everything to

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>these dirt sheet writers, which I hope they find him

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and I hope they kick him out on his ass,

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 1>because what are you getting from this? Are you getting

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 1>extra income? Is he getting paid by you know, the

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>observer or the whoever else is out there doing these

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>dirt sheets? Yeah? What do you get from it? Against

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>your own company when you do shit like this? But

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 1>it's always guys for everybody. But I think that the

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>dirt sheet guys are just as much to blame as

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the people leaking it, because these are people that are

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.319
<v Speaker 1>that are professing themselves to be journalists, right, they've now

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 1>they want the clicks they want. They went from just

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Meltzer and Wade Keller having a newsletter and then a

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>website and a little radio show to these guys like

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they try to pass themselves off as journalists works right, yeah,

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, forget about it. Yeah. You They try

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to make themselves like they are in the White House

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>press room when they're attending these media scrums, and and

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and there was a question that was asked to Punk

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 1>during the scrum where a guy said he was legitimately

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>nervous to ask the question to Punk. Okay, these are

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>people that are not prepared to handle any kind of

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>sensitive information because they can't let go of the fact

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>they want to be over with a certain group of

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>people in the business. They can't separate professionalism versus not professionalism.

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>So when somebody's feeding them information, they're gonna post it

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to get their clicks and to get their likes and

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to get their attention to be the first person who

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>had the story. But they can't then handle the fact

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that this is what they caused this meltdown by Cmpunk

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of this press conference. I have to say,

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I am gonna take a side, and I am on

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the side of cmpunk with all this, because this is

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a guy who they beg to come back for eight years.

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Every wrestling personality wanted him back for eight years. He's back.

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:46.800
<v Speaker 1>This is what you get. Triple H said this about

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Dmpunk eight years ago. Punk wants what Punk wants, and

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what he has to see. I'm on the side

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of cmpunk. Those guys burst into his locker room, and

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you know they're supposed to be executives. They were unprofessional.

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>He just voiced his opinion because he was asked a question.

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Was Col Cobana fired? No? Okay? Were they pushing him

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>before Punk even came No? So then why bring up

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that ship? Now? I have no idea. I don't I

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. He was in an undercard faction. Sorry, okay,

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 1>all right? And when Punk came back, did they never

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>use Cold again? Because I don't watch the program. Did

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 1>they never use him? Did Punk say, if you use

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Cold Cabana, then you know I'm gonna walk out now?

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So after Brodie Lee died, the group dropped in status significantly.

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>They went from being like heels to like kind of

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 1>like a comedy group, and they have all but fizzled out.

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a couple of guys that they have left,

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>but they moved Colt to Ring of Honor, which makes

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sense because Cold Cabana has a history in Ring of Mind.

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>So but my point is, it wasn't like Punk was

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>suppressing col Cabana that we know of, So then why

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>say all this ship and that's what he wigged out about.

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 1>That was his That's what I don't And I'm not

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>blaming him, and I'm not blaming the box and I'm

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>not I'm blaming the stupid sheet writers and the guy

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>or Pete or group who is leaking this information. Apparently

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, working for ae W whoever. This mole

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>is okay, and they're leaking info which is hurting their

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>own company, which means that eventually this person might be

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 1>out of the job. So what is getting out of

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>leaking information? You're you're doing more harm. There's no good,

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>it's all harm. And I just I don't understand the mole.

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. Every company had one, Yeah, every

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>company had a mole. You know Todd Gordon with the voicemails.

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to talk about ours. That's a whole

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>number of mole, I mean, and that was I'll tell

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you how it used to go. Back in the day.

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:12.240
<v Speaker 1>As a fan, you would call an eight hundred wrestling

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 1>hotline for those of us that couldn't afford the nine

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.439
<v Speaker 1>hundred ones. No, there were eight hundred ones out there

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and the guys are and you would call it and

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>they would say, there is a supposed mole inside of

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>ECW that's feeding information to WCW about contracts and this

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.959
<v Speaker 1>and that. And you're sitting there going like, oh my god, Wow,

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.839
<v Speaker 1>holy shit. You did not have to then press one

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to hear who burst into whose locker room to kick

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>their ass and you know, stop them from going to

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the other organization and this person that It just it's

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I I feel that the dirt sheet writers are going

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to help collapse this company. But yes, go ahead. I

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was just going to say the only now when it

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>struck something when you mentioned that about the ECW one

0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>there was a deal on the table with WCW. Does

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the ae W mole have a deal on the table

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>with WWE to destroy the company? That's the only scenario

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that would make sense. I don't think WWE cares that

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 1>much because Triple A's just basically called them the minor league.

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 1>He conceded defeat, but he conceded defeat of the NXT

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and said that they beat our developmental show, and they

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>barely beat them with whatever. The numbers are very class

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.839
<v Speaker 1>of them. But I'm just saying, if you're thinking logically,

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that is the only scenario that would make any sense

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>is that this person is being swayed to destroy AW

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and move on to WWE where he can make maybe

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>more money. I don't know, you don't. I'm gonna also

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>say this theory too. If somebody's leaking and there's a mole,

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>there's something inside the company that went awry for them.

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And to me, as an outsider, who does I look

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at the jobs they have available. Because I've worked in

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a wrestling company before, I have a very talented television background.

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I could provide something to a company like AW. You

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>look at how the structure has kind of collapsed, and

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you see the boss. I'm sorry, I think the guy

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>has done a great job with what he's built. He

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>is embarrassing to watch, not respectfully kind of work for

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>this guy and not have a lack of like confidence

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to keep things going, because when I've

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>always thought he's a little weird. When I was watching

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:38.919
<v Speaker 1>this Chris Jericho press scrum and he's wide eyed looking

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:41.720
<v Speaker 1>at Jericho and talking about going to the ECW Arena

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>with his dad, and he's and but the company is

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 1>in turmoil in the next room, and he's talking about

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Jericho's ring attire and how he wanted Jericho to wear

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the same tights and look at large air of everything

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>out there. You know what I mean. Alice doesn't good,

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you what to Here's another little weird,

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>little wrinkle. So we didn't even get into it. Shane A.

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Steele's wife was in the room with Cmpunk's dog, right

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and when the bucks burst in there. The way the

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 1>story is kind of going is that the wife freaked out.

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:18.319
<v Speaker 1>That's why a Steele came running, a steel threw the chair,

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the fractice ensued. But also now this head of legal

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that AW has was apparently involved in the situation, and

0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Tony Conta said she's the number two in AW but

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>she was apparently just hanging around while all this is

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>going on. So this is not just a fight. This

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>is not just a public like blow up. This is

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>a complete turmoiled, yeah, disarrayed company unfolding in front of

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>our very eyes. I said, this is WCW two point

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.760
<v Speaker 1>zero for years. Okay, I think they've made w CW

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.400
<v Speaker 1>look like it was running very well up until the

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 1>last minutes. I mean, the way they spend their money

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 1>reminds me WCW for sure, just grabbing everybody they can

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and giving people jobs. But it's just it's a bad look.

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for my friends who are there because

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want them losing their job. I

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want anybody losing a job. Competition's good. I've said

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it a million times. It's nice to have a product

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that is not WWE on a bigger scale. And I

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>really was rooting for AW two, you know, not surpiss WWE,

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>but just to give a good alternative. And if it

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:38.240
<v Speaker 1>continues to do this, I don't see them lasting much longer,

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>which is a very sad thing. So get your shit together,

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 1>aw That's all I can do. And the last common

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll make too, is that in the midst of the

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 1>company in turmoil, behind the closed door, where the media

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.720
<v Speaker 1>scroll is going on, with these dork journalists asking questions

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like they're in the White House press room, like just

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 1>coming off like such losers, right, Tony Kahn goes out

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>this rant about defeating WWE and that he's he's he

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:06.879
<v Speaker 1>doesn't give a fuck anymore and he's tired of this

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:09.399
<v Speaker 1>fucking shit and he's cursing, and he's this, and he's

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that talking about how, oh because WWE ran on Labor

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Day for the first time, and oh, who's how do

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>they get that idea? And they took that from us?

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm tired of this fucking shit. And it was like,

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Like, this is what you're talking about

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to these dork loser fans that are interviewing you in

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>public form while your company is in turmoil. But yeah,

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's uh, it's not the end to this story.

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure more will unfold that we can talk about

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 1>at a different time, but this hour just flew by,

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>blew by, It really did. Why don't you tell us

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>what's on Patreon? Oh, we got some fun stuff ahead

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 1>of us. As previewed last week. We are going to

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>uh take a look at and I'll have to censor

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.760
<v Speaker 1>when it airs, but we're going to look at making

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 1>stand Man right in all his glory. Literally, Yes, I'm

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>going to text him and let let him know that

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we're doing some really good journalism this week and we're

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna discuss that match. He's gonna get. Yeah, I don't

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:20.400
<v Speaker 1>even remember what the hell happened? What a cluster? Just

0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:24.719
<v Speaker 1>watching it, I never I never saw it in that form. Sough. Yeah,

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to do that. Uh. You have been

0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about your Disney trip and the planning stages that

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you were in, so we are going to look at

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>things that you shouldn't do. We're gonna look at Disney

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>stamps for the people that don't know what they're doing

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 1>when they plan there's Disney vacation. And I'm going to

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>throw in a couple of stories that I've heard this

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 1>week about what was going on at some of the parks,

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 1>if I may just to add a little spice to this,

0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:57.879
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, there there were a couple things that were

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:03.280
<v Speaker 1>not very Disney, so we'll discuss that as well. Yeah,

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:07.359
<v Speaker 1>and then we are going to uh, we're going to

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 1>take your uh since we talked about ECW a few

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>times here, We're going to put your ECW knowledge to

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the tell. I'm going out the scroll, damn it. I'm

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 1>going to give you an ECW trivia quiz. The worst

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>is if I fail, because what if I fail? But

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that you well, we'll have to see what happens. But

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that is what is going on Patreon. If you want

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.280
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0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.520
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