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Speaker 2: Problem solved touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there right The latest news

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Speaker 2: Bring it on, Break it on, tuckdown, Saving Colin slam

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Speaker 2: to the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 2: came flying into the backfield, h skirting nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic right.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to be so argumentative and combative right

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Speaker 2: Normally that's Danny's role. Actually, so I don't want to

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Speaker 2: step on your toes, Danny, you know. But there's a

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Speaker 2: question here that's included as part of today's game plan,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot more coming beyond this, including a

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Speaker 2: new nickname.

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Speaker 3: Alert.

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Speaker 2: So I know what you're thinking right now. Wow, Calvy

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Speaker 2: C's got a new nickname, just waiting to stink. But

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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. Have a little more faith than that.

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Speaker 2: I can. I can read your face, Danny. I know

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Speaker 2: I'm being profiled right now based on the nickname. That

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Speaker 2: will come a little bit later. But the question has

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Speaker 2: posed in the game plan by Darren Urban was what

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Speaker 2: did you do on the buye? You know, maybe a

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Speaker 2: small talk type conversational thing. Dare I say the more

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Speaker 2: apt question really is what did you not do on

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Speaker 2: the buy? For example, I did not deal with the

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Speaker 2: one on one and have to commute for three days.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have to put on or take off any

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Speaker 2: Polly Pancake TV makeup. I do not ask any dumb

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Speaker 2: questions in a press conference. It would blow up in

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Speaker 2: my face because there were no press conferences, so you know,

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Speaker 2: it's everything. I did not have to keep my head

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Speaker 2: on a swivel for a three hundred pounder coming out

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Speaker 2: of bounds near the sideline. Uh, you know, and see

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Speaker 2: my life flash in front of my eyes. I think

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Speaker 2: the bye weekend really is more about what you did

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Speaker 2: not do.

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Speaker 3: Dare I say I think that's quite fair? Isn't that

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Speaker 3: the kind of the point of the bye weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, say goodbye to any real work related duties.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and say I didn't do

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Speaker 3: any work, but I did far less work than you

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Speaker 3: probably are guessing, Danny.

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Speaker 4: And I'm really proud of you.

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Speaker 3: Now. It might have been in part because I was

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Speaker 3: a human beings on.

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Speaker 2: The injury report really okay, questionable, doubtful.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm back to I'm back to.

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Speaker 4: Full gotcha, Okay, miraculous recovery.

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Speaker 2: A few hours ago? Were you a game day decision?

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Speaker 3: Have you just saw this? This faded out by probably Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Afternoons, just in time to come back to work.

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Speaker 3: That's usually how it works for me.

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Speaker 2: See. Meanwhile, Danny's just hitting her stride because she spent

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Speaker 2: her by weekend counting how many different fantasy football playoff

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Speaker 2: postseason she's in? What's the number three? Three? Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: I don't know I have them more three leagues? Three leagues?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Damn never Really, who's.

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Speaker 4: Being a general manager's hard work.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, here we go, you know, speaking of the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: Can I can I go on a small rant?

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Speaker 3: Here? Are we talking about real playoffs or fantasy?

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Speaker 2: Trying about the real NFL playoffs?

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: They posted a graphic the playoff picture on Monday Night

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Speaker 2: Can I say that I'm more than a little underwhelmed

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Speaker 4: Picture by the six and seven teams in the hut?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the NFC after you have the Niners,

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Speaker 2: you have Tampa, Minnesota, Green Bay, the ram Seattle, Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: New Orleans, all six or seven win teams at this point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nobody sweats those teams.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's true, but like once we went to seven

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Speaker 2: I mean, the AFC is even worse. You got Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: that fourteen point lead at the very end, KC, who's

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Speaker 2: a two or three year rebuild to get back to

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Speaker 2: the postseason, absolutely not. The Arizona Cardinals easily and most

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Speaker 2: likely will be a playoff contender next year if the

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Speaker 3: A quick you're right, and I want to get I'm

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Speaker 3: going to let Danny answer that real quick, but I

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Speaker 3: just want to put in the thing so as you

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Speaker 3: look over this playoff right, sure, were you the one

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight who called the Cardinals the

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Speaker 3: worst playoff team of all time? Before the playoffs? Oh?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't here answer the question.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I would definitely was not. I wish I

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Speaker 2: year as one of the voices of Sunday Nights Chris

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Speaker 2: collins Worth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Danny, you can answer the question.

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Speaker 4: I do think that's a fair sentiment to have. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's still four games left, so some of those teams

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Speaker 4: could end up with eleven wins, which really isn't a

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Speaker 2: I guess not at all, right, at all, No, you're right.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's a good point, Paul, because imagine

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Speaker 4: if Kyler Murray had been healthy all year, how many

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Speaker 4: really good point. And you know, we've talked about the rebuild,

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Speaker 4: to this at practice a couple weeks ago, Darren, that

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Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like this is going to take a

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, to Paul's point, even not only do

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Speaker 3: I not think it's going to take two to three years,

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Speaker 3: everything is good right now. You're trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: But if you take only a small step next year

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Speaker 3: doesn't And I'm not just talking about the Cardinals and

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Speaker 3: what Michael Bidwell might do. That's almost every owner in

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Speaker 2: And specifically, honestly, if we're in the trust tree here

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Speaker 2: out a way to beat your division opponents. The Niners

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Speaker 2: lost fourteen out of sixteen against Sean McVay Seahawks is

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Speaker 2: it's the Seahawks and your plus three in the turnover ratio,

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you probably win that game. But you can

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Speaker 2: look at some of these other playoff contenders, and I

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Speaker 2: Seattle Dan the season. To me, if there's a couple

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Speaker 4: It hasn't been easy, and that that's what feels like

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Speaker 4: that pill battles when you look at the division and

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Speaker 4: on top and offensively they have struggled for explosive plays

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Speaker 4: and having multiple games where you have consistent rhythm and

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Speaker 4: you're moving the chains because it feels like you might

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Speaker 4: of the games against those divisional opponents, Paul. When I

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Speaker 4: what stands out of all those divisional opponents is just

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Speaker 2: And I think it's fitting the run scheme. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's the rams and what they did with that whole

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Speaker 2: the second half of the first game to twenty eight

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Speaker 2: total in the second game. Just somehow the gap integrity

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Speaker 2: isn't there? What the Niners able to do a lot

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Speaker 2: not really, at least not to not to.

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Speaker 3: Indeed took you apart, didn't he, Paul.

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Speaker 2: That's why the second thing I mentioned what I did

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Speaker 3: He was. We have to make clear, dear listener, that

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Speaker 3: he tried really hard to be nice about it, but

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Speaker 3: as he kept talking about it, it became a lot

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Speaker 3: more dismissive like that, Yeah, this had they have nothing

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Speaker 2: Each because it can always get worse it did. The

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Speaker 2: more his answer went on, the more my question. Look,

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Speaker 2: there's there's no doubt of it, But I wanted to

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Speaker 2: answer to that, is it a similar challenge and or

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Speaker 2: fit when you go against the Rams run game, to

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Speaker 2: Danny's point, and the Niners run game, because if not,

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Speaker 2: you need to totally different game plans because you haven't

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Speaker 2: been very successful stopping the run of either coordinator, whether

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Speaker 2: it's McVeigh or Shanahan. And I use coordinator because they're

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Speaker 2: the master behind mastermind behind their own offenses. Even though

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Speaker 2: they're the head coach. They have a problem in that

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Speaker 2: area with trying to fit in terms of you know,

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Speaker 2: every single time seemingly you play the Rams or Niners,

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Speaker 2: you hear those two words gap, integrity, and so I'm

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Speaker 2: really curious and I agree with you, Danny more than anything.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday in this rematch against Niners, can they fit

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Speaker 2: You're right, integrity, yes, right, yes, Oh boy, so I

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Speaker 4: Yes, I do think that the offense evolved. I'm not

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Speaker 3: I think they would love for that to be the identity.

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Speaker 3: But if you strip off positional things, Trey McBride's the

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Speaker 2: It's why we've now dubbed him McBride Big Skin Division.

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Speaker 2: That shalt be known going forward as Trey mcplay.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's not bad, Okay. I gotta definitely exceeded my

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Speaker 2: But here and there, I'll work it in Trey mcplay

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Speaker 4: And you know that if you brought that up to Trey,

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it can't be any worse than some

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Speaker 2: everyone wonders why Larry Fitzgerald tackled Wolf two three times

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Speaker 3: Fish, which I actually think that's hilarious. I know Almos

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Speaker 2: At the very least, it should be the Japanese fighting fits.

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Speaker 3: I like Japanese fighting fish better than humble Rumble.

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Speaker 2: Adrian Wilson. I had to get between Adrian Wilson and

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Speaker 2: Ron Wolfley on an episode of The Rage when you

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Speaker 3: That was not.

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Speaker 2: Good, not good just for that. Actually, Adrian Wilson took

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Speaker 4: Where does I Andy fit on the list?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man?

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Speaker 3: Oh you mean Isaiah?

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Speaker 4: No no, no, Paul had won this year.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 2: Not my fault. He didn't work out. I mean he

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Speaker 4: There was another one this year.

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Speaker 2: He was supposed to raise his game to fit the

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Speaker 2: My goodness, let just hope it's not like this lett.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope it's not like the Madden Curse. All of

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Speaker 3: I think that I'm in on that. I I do

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Speaker 2: He sat down for the inner.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, you leverage your Texas ties, right? Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that how that came to be?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 3: We don't. We don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Let me just bottom line this. Okay, Danny, like you

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Speaker 2: run your fantasy football teams, and I do mean ploral,

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Speaker 2: say that if I'm running the Cardinals offense, and I'm

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Speaker 2: most definitely not, he gets at least two tight end

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Speaker 2: screens per game, Trey mcplay, Okay, two tight end screens

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Speaker 3: I I don't not love that. I guess I want

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's gonna kind of like chastise them.

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Speaker 2: See are a couple of things that happened at Pittsburgh game.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about this a million times. I mean, again,

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Speaker 3: everything Kyler is doing he's done in games four times

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Speaker 3: been in this league longer than Kyler Murray and he

436
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 3: was learning something new that he hadn't done in his career,

437
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: and it took him a few games, and now he's

438
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: saying it's all kind of clicking in. I think that's

439
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 3: the hope with Kyler like it's going to click to

440
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: that level. And I know fans don't want to hear this,

441
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 3: but once he missed the first part of the year,

442
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: once the losses piled up, this year was going to

443
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: be about setting stuff up. And one of the things

444
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 3: they needed to set up was Kyler Murray understanding what

445
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: he was going to have to do in this offense.

446
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 4: Just because the Cardinals aren't playing in December for a

447
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 4: playoff push doesn't mean they're not playing meaningful football. Moral

448
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 4: victories don't count in the NFL. I understand that there

449
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: is a lot to be learned in these final four

450
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 4: games of the season for this staff. Do the players

451
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 4: that they have fit with what they want and not

452
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 4: only that, which players are players you can build around

453
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 4: on all sides of the ball, quarterback, running back, wide receiver,

454
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 4: you're into your offensive line. There's a lot of questions,

455
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 4: it's not just quarterback of does this staff want to

456
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 4: ride with Kyler Murray and for the long haul? And

457
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: there's a lot of positions on defense. There's still a

458
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 4: lot that you can learn. And I think this staff,

459
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: specifically from what we have gathered from general manager Money

460
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 4: Austoin for it and head coach Jonathan Gannon in terms

461
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 4: of character and the type of effort and fight that

462
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 4: they want to see. The fact that this team is

463
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 4: not playing for the playoffs, how are the players responding

464
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 4: in the locker room, in the meeting rooms, on the field,

465
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 4: there is still a lot that they are playing for.

466
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: And I think, at least in my experience here in

467
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 4: Arizona in the past, when it has felt like playoffs

468
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 4: were already out of reach, you could tell that some

469
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 4: people didn't really seem like there was a lot of

470
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 4: meeting full football right. It was Okay, let's get to

471
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: the end of the season, let's you know, get to

472
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: the off season and start moving forward. And doesn't feel

473
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: that way. And I wouldn't imagine we're going to see

474
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 4: that in these last couple of weeks of football, because.

475
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm usually wrong on these things, no matter how close

476
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: we are to the team. I was certifiably mortified going

477
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 2: into Pittsburgh based on the lackluster effort you saw against

478
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: the Rams at times, which Jonathan Gain incited and called

479
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: enthusiasm or lack thereof. Dennis Kardak after that Rams loss,

480
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: saying he wanted to see more fight now you're going

481
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: on the road is before the bye, it's going to

482
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: be bad weather. You got a Steelers team Mike Tomlin

483
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: twenty nine and eleven at home in December and his

484
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: Steelers career as head coach. Everything was lining up for

485
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 2: what could be a really lopsided outing, and it was

486
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: just the opposite. And to me, there are things you

487
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: judge on the scoreboard, and there are things you judge

488
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: that you can just see are being built on the sideline,

489
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: in the locker room, on the field. Josh Woods has

490
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: said more than once he sees similarities to what Dan

491
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Campbell did with the Lions. They had a miserable first season,

492
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: they had a miserable first half of the second season,

493
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: and then things turned. And when things turn, they can

494
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: do so in a hurry.

495
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: So am I.

496
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: Predicting a win against the NFL's best team, the forty

497
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: nine Ers. Absolutely not. But if you can come out

498
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: and to your point, Danny A, everyone's trying to put

499
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: film out there because once again those two words, no allegiances.

500
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: If you thought there will be blood last off season,

501
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: there's no reason why it couldn't happen again this offseason.

502
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: There's that, and then I think there's also trying to

503
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: get some confidence against some of these division opponents, especially

504
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: a Niners team that's had its way against you for

505
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: a couple of years running.

506
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: Now, did you just say there will be blood? So

507
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: you used a different movie than the Purge? I did?

508
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 4: Or is there blood in the Purge? I would imagine

509
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 4: there's blood.

510
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: Oh, of course there's a lot. What do you think

511
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: against the R rating there, Danny? I mean, of course

512
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: there are They all are rated.

513
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 4: Name the ones that are R rated, Paul, Well, let's.

514
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: See, there's the purge, there's a purge anarchy. There's the

515
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: first Purge of Forever, purge, purge election year, and then

516
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: the purge big red off season or whatever we call it.

517
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: The Big Red Purge is what we call twenty twenty three, which.

518
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 4: If there's a purge, why would the first thing you

519
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: want to do would be to murder someone?

520
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, why would that be? Where you're it's it's just

521
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: a sow chaos, really is what it is. There's a

522
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: twenty four hour period, whether it can be k I

523
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: think if.

524
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: You're going to ask those kinds of logistical and philosophical

525
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: questions about I won't survive the purge.

526
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: That's right, Detach your brain before you sit down to it.

527
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: I think society has moved past philosophical thoughts. If you're

528
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: having the purge, I.

529
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: Mean, you know, I mean, if if society can embrace

530
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito and that whole scene on Monday.

531
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: Night, it's kind of incredible. The agent and the Fedora

532
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 4: and his family handout meatballs and chicken cutlets and pasta tailgates.

533
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: Paul Calvic over here is actually feeling a little upset.

534
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm conflicted, you feeling I am intlucted type cast here

535
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: little conflicted? Was it entertaining? Absolutely did a reinforce every

536
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: Italian stereotype that's out there, No doubt he did. He's

537
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: got the agent who looks like Sylvia from the Sopranos,

538
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: you know, the dad who Peyton Manning was calling Johnny Fontaine,

539
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: which is a great reference to the First Godfather. You know,

540
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: you have the family out there making chicken palm sandwiches.

541
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: Which looked delicious.

542
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, So does that mean you never watched and don't

543
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: support the Jersey Shore who was the.

544
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: Full back who was drafted by the Cardinals in the

545
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: fifth round. This is going back about ten to fifteen

546
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: years and then went to the Chiefs. He had a

547
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: long career with the Chiefs. Who was that guy because Sherman,

548
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah, not ed Sherman Alps his name. Oh my goodness, Elms,

549
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: where are you when you need trying.

550
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 4: To look through the glass? He for sure knows here

551
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: he comes.

552
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: I knew also, that's right, that's right. They used to do,

553
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: you know, the whole thing. And it took that took

554
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: that locker room when he was a rookie about fifteen

555
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: minutes to nickname him Jersey Shore because he was from Jersey.

556
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: He had the accent antony, and he had all that

557
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: he'd wear, all the gold chains. He was right out

558
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: of Central casting from Oh my goodness, but uh yeah. So,

559
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: by the way, the headline of New York Post because

560
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't resist this morning to take a look at it,

561
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: because he's known as Tommy Cutlet's because you realize he's

562
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: living at home, Danny.

563
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 4: I don't. I lived at home for a long while.

564
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: My kids are living at home and their adults. Is

565
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: that not supposed to do?

566
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 4: So he was a great setup.

567
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: By the way, here here's his quote on Tommy Cutlet's

568
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: living at his parents about he said, it's it's like

569
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: twelve minutes away. Says, it takes me twelve minutes to

570
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: get here, so I couldn't even find a place closer

571
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: to my work than if I wanted to. And he said,

572
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about laundry. What I'm eating

573
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: for dinner, he said, chicken cutlets.

574
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: And all that.

575
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: It's waiting for me when I get here. My mom

576
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: still makes my bed, Everything is handled for me.

577
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, say, I've been making my own bed since

578
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 4: I was like four, and my parents didn't do my

579
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: laundry when I lived at home. But everything else sounds nice.

580
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: So there you go.

581
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: Hey, we just had a laundry conversation last night. So

582
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: because mine with me, no, no, Well, because my oldest

583
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: is about to move out and he's moving in with

584
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: his girlfriend, and apparently at one point laundry was brought up,

585
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: and she apparently was making the assumption she would end

586
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: up doing his laundry because that's what her mom does.

587
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: My son said, you're not touching my lawndry because my

588
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: kids have done their own laundry since they were tall

589
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: enough to reach into the washing Come on now, really,

590
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: hell yeah.

591
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: Well, your kids are also, is that younger old?

592
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: I would guess My oldest son is twenty four.

593
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 2: Now.

594
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: He says he's been doing it at least since he

595
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: was fifteen. See what maybe longer than that?

596
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: Why do I have visions of the old Peter Brady

597
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: episode flooding? The whole house was SuDS and soap bubbles.

598
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: And see that's that always ticked me off because it's

599
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: not that hard.

600
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: Did that once, but it was with a dishwasher. Oh no,

601
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: college came back, the kitchen was covered in SuDS. Anyway,

602
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: what'd you do?

603
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: Load in like four gallons? How does that happen?

604
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: I honestly, I don't remember. I must have done more

605
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: than I needed to or didn't. I don't remember. If

606
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: we did a pot It was like it was a

607
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: really old house and dishwasher. But the worst part is

608
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: I loaded it. I lived with four other girls and

609
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: I love you, yeah and yeah, and I loaded the

610
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: dishwasher as being a good roommate. I started it, and

611
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: then I left for my job at the news station.

612
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: And then one of the rooms, I was the only

613
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: one home. Everyone else was like at class or whatever

614
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: they were doing. And then we get a text in

615
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: the group and it's a picture of the kitchen that's

616
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: like covered in SuDS, and it's like, oh, what happened?

617
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: And so I was They ended up all coming home

618
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 4: and I'm the only one who wasn't there to clean up.

619
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: Did you ever find out why it did that?

620
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: No?

621
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I only did it one time though.

622
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: Well she was by design. She wanted to clean the

623
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: floors as well, That's that's what she wanted to do. Sure, Okay.

624
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: So Michael Wilson, if he's tracking to play on Sunday,

625
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: big game, bag big game against the Niners in Week

626
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: four seven for seventy six two touchdowns. Do you know

627
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: there are three rookies now in the last twenty years

628
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: of Cardinals football that have had multiple touchdown games receiving

629
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: touchdowns as a rookie Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown and now

630
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson.

631
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: Wow.

632
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: So, And to be able to run the ball in

633
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh And I talked to Lorenzo Alexander about this big deal?

634
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 2: Are not a big deal? Cardinals were able to run

635
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: the ball, especially that fourth quarter obviously against the Steelers

636
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: minus their two best blocking receivers in Zach Pascal and

637
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson.

638
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: Good point.

639
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: So if indeed he's back, I mean, you got four

640
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: games to try and establish a guy who was having

641
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: an all rookie type campaign a couple months into the

642
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: season before we get hit by injury.

643
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: I love the what he could boost to the offense.

644
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: Like what we were talking about before, Why why is

645
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: Trey McBride that guy right now with Hollywood Brown disabled

646
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: at the moment, Like Trey McBride is that guy to

647
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: throw to. I think Michael Wilson helps that so much.

648
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: It will be interesting going back to you talking about

649
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: the identity again. The identity from that game, in part

650
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: came about Hollywood Brown left early because he was hurt.

651
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: There was no Michael Wilson, there was no like in

652
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: some ways their identity was forced by what hand they

653
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: were dealt, And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm In fact,

654
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: I even asked Jonathan Gannon this week, like James Connor

655
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: had twenty five carries last week, which tied the second

656
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: most he had ever had in his career, And I'm like, okay, philosophically,

657
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: is that something you'd like basically feeding your guy? And

658
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: I you were you were in the europe I did

659
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: not get the impression that he was like, yeah, I'd

660
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: love to do that. I got the impression like, that's

661
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: kind of what happened. But that's because in the last

662
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: four minutes he was ripping off eight to ten yard runs.

663
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you keep giving it to him? But I

664
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: don't think that's the that's the goal.

665
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: No, probably not. To your point, it's hard to argue

666
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: what they did was out of necessity. First and foremost,

667
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: A they were missing receivers. Be at that point, they

668
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: have the lead in the fourth quarter and you're trying

669
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: to sault it away and oh, by the way, you

670
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: just wore down their defense. And seventy five of his

671
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: rushing yards were in the fourth quarter alone. And uh,

672
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: I think Kyle Vannenbosch pointed out it's amazing how certain

673
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: defenders will take mysterious angles to the football, and James

674
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: Connor in particular, in the fourth quarter when it's already

675
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: decided and the point they don't have real interest of

676
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: locking horns. So okay, but I just keep coming back

677
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: to Drew Petsen and his background. Yeah, and why he

678
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: was hired.

679
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: I get it, and that whole.

680
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski thing, and so are we. Now, look, they're

681
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: going to adapt into what's best for the personnel, sure,

682
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: but obviously they have to meet in the middle somewhere

683
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: else they wouldn't have changed Kyler Murray's footwork.

684
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: I agree, and I will say, like getting back to

685
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: the Michael Wilson thing, I I do think how he

686
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: plays both catching the ball and blocking, which he embraces,

687
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: fits perfectly.

688
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: With that style that you're talking about now, speaking running backs,

689
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. You got to figure out an answer to

690
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. If you're the Cardinals. Four touchdowns in the

691
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: first meeting, three on the ground, one through the air. Now,

692
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker is going to be healthy this time around.

693
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: Was not there in Week four? Danny, What do you

694
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: think do we smell a spy perhaps in this game

695
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker.

696
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a bad idea. I'm just trying

697
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: to think. Has anybody this season been able to stop CMC?

698
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: Not so much?

699
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: Right, it's about it's about limiting him and not to me,

700
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: it's it's not letting explosive plays happen. Because a player

701
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: like McCaffrey is going to have a good game. That's

702
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: just doesn't matter who he's playing. That's that's what we've learned.

703
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: I think about the other teams that don't have a

704
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: player on that caliber that have had explosive runs and

705
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: gotten significantly more yarda jump they should not have against

706
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: this defense. That to me is what improvements can be

707
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: made from the first matchup. What can you do to

708
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: limit McCaffrey's he's gonna get the ball and he's gonna

709
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: he's gonna get yards, right, But what can you do

710
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: to minimize that? That's what I would want to see

711
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: against the run game, And without really having a chance

712
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: to go back and look at the numbers and my

713
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: notes from that first matchup, the other thing that stands

714
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: out is ASU Grad wide receiver Brandon Ayuk, who was

715
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: either always open or always able to get an insane

716
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: amount of yards after catch. And I do remember that

717
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: before that first matchup was when I learned that Ayuk

718
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 4: was a sun devil.

719
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: Courks up.

720
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a problem. He was a headache, There's

721
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. What's amazing is real quick in

722
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: that Seattle game. You talk about how explosive they are, right,

723
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: they the four big weapons Christian McCaffrey, excuse me, George Kittle, Deebo,

724
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: Samuel Brandon Ayuk, you need any of this, Paul Hey,

725
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: They combined for over five hundred scrimmage yar.

726
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

727
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: It chokes me up just thinking of what it's like

728
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: trying to defend all those guys. The Niners are like,

729
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: we had five hundred and twenty seven total yards last

730
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: week again Seattle, and we weren't even that good. We

731
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: punted it five times and still had over five hundred

732
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: total yards efficient. That's yeah. So that's how explosive they

733
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: can be. Save me, Darren, go ahead.

734
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Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say a couple quick things. One,

735
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: Danny was mentioning that she just had recently learned about

736
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: Brandon Nayuk being a Sun level. She literally literally learned

737
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: today al Michaels was a Sun level.

738
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Speaker 4: I just thought, why would you expect that I would

739
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: have this extensive knowledge about your grad?

740
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, just disappointing. The Other thing I would say is

741
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: I saw stat today on the internets that there are

742
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: three teams that have at least thirty four hundred passing

743
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: yards this year. Okay, one of them is the forty

744
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: nine ers forty nine ers, I believe have the fewest

745
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: passing attempts in the NFL.

746
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that is remarkable, and I guess it would

747
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: make sense because they have a lot of big leads

748
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: in the running it in the fourth quarter, so they're not.

749
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: Necessarily but they're getting their yards, aren't they.

750
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: Yes, they are, and it's I mean, everyone's a tough tackle, Deebo,

751
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: Samuel Ayyuk, the separation he gets, George Kittle, right, I mean,

752
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: think about and then Christian McCaffrey. I mean, they have

753
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: four of the toughest tackles in the NFL on one team.

754
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: But what's interesting is to talk about the former Arizona

755
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Cardinals high school Player of the Year circa twenty seventeen.

756
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: I believe Brock Purty. Trent Williams came to brock Purty's

757
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: defense last week. Did you see that quote? He said,

758
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: if Brock Purdy was Zach Wilson, the number two pick overall,

759
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 2: he'd be the unanimous MVP right now. So I'm tired

760
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: of hearing that he's got all these weapons. Look what

761
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: he's doing out there, in the caliber of ball he's playing,

762
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he gets anywhere near his due this

763
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: is Trent Williams. Now because he was the last pick

764
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: in the draft, people are too easy to dismiss him.

765
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: If he was the number two pick in the draft,

766
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: he'd behailed as the next Aaron Rodgers.

767
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: I will say that the idea that he has two

768
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: many weapons to get credit is kind of funny. I

769
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: saw people making this point, but it's an obvious point

770
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: when you look at some of the quarterbacks that have

771
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: won the MVP and you look at the weapons they had,

772
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: and the one that really comes to mind big time

773
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: is Joe Montana back in the day, or even Steve

774
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: Young where you're throwing to Jerry Rice and you have

775
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: Roger Craig or whoever you had around you at the time,

776
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: Peyton manning all those MVP years, you had two Hall

777
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: of Fame wide receivers and a Hall of Fame running back.

778
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, and I get it. And I

779
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: do agree that if brock Pertty had been a first

780
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: round pick that he probably would be looked at differently.

781
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: But it is what it is. I mean, you could

782
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: make the argument too that Christian McCaffrey isn't getting enough

783
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: run as a potential MVP candidate because people are just

784
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 3: ignoring them.

785
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: Well, after last night, people were saying Tyreek Hill with

786
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: Miami after noticing when he wasn't in the game and

787
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: all that he does as well.

788
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: A Vegas right now has Dak Prescott your MVP leader

789
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: in terms of odds, and then rock Perty is second

790
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: based on what I saw after the Monday night games.

791
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the Cardinals beat the Cowboys Paul by.

792
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: The way the but and that might cost me room.

793
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: That might that loss by Dallas might cost them the

794
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 2: home field. And Dallas has won fifteen in a row

795
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: at home. So you're like, oh, the Niners may be

796
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: put in cruise control because they have a four game

797
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: lead in the division. No, you don't want to play

798
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: Dallas right now at home, even though the Niners destroyed them.

799
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: I get it earlier this year. I mean, the way

800
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: Dak is playing and the way they're balling at home.

801
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: Didn't I see somewhere too? And I could be wrong,

802
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 3: but didn't I see if if the Eagles went out

803
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: and their schedule is win all winner outable, I don't

804
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: know how you'd say that. Don't they still win the division?

805
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: Yes, they do have the tiebreaker on Dallas. Yes, so yes, yeap.

806
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: Not only now it was Jerry Jones who said that

807
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: we're prepared to go on the road.

808
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Yes, not only not only the Cowboys have to worry

809
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: about it, but like.

810
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: But the way the Eagles defense is playing right now. Oh,

811
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: let's see, what's the Eagles defense missing from last year? Oh,

812
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: a certain coordinator who's now a head coach in Arizona.

813
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: Funny how that works. The Eagles defense is among the

814
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: league's worst in the red zone, giving up touchdowns el grande.

815
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, are you kidding me? So? I'm curious which

816
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: way the Eagles are trending when the Cardinals go there

817
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve.

818
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: That that's going to be such a cool story if

819
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: they lose another game.

820
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 4: Here might have to go back to when JG was

821
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: hired and some of the some of the things that

822
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: were written and said about hand posts Super Bowl. We

823
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: just have to refresh our memories.

824
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of going back cold tub time machine, you mentioned

825
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: earlier that Jerry Rice and uh and Joe Montana and

826
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: John Taylor and Roger Craig and all those guys. This

827
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: week's Cardinals folktales dot dot dot take it from there.

828
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: There when Arizona met the Cardiac Cards, and it's a

829
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: it's going to be a piece about the time when

830
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: Arizona who the Cardinals moved to the state in nineteen

831
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: eighty eight and played the forty nine Ers, who ended

832
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 3: up winning the Super Bowl that year. But they met

833
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: at sun Devil Stadium. Forty nine Ers had a twenty

834
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: three nothing lead. The Cardinals made this epic come back

835
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: to win twenty four to twenty three, and it looked

836
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: like they had a chance to win the NFC East

837
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: that year. It didn't happen because quarterback Neil Lomax ended

838
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: up getting hurt. That's all part of the story. But

839
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: I had told Paul and Jim over here, this will

840
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: all be new to Danny. I'm sure she'll be very excited.

841
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: But I have my own little brush with At the

842
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: time when the Cardinals moved to the Valley, it was

843
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: March of eighty eight, so I was just about to

844
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: graduate from high school, don't say it, And that summer

845
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: I took a summer job. It was a place called

846
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: Great Name Events with tents, and essentially me and my

847
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: best friend growing up, we helped out this woman who

848
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: ran a you set up these giant tents outside and

849
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: they'd hold events and we would help set up the

850
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: tents and then do manual labor during these events.

851
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: To whatever, and you pray there's no monsoon.

852
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: That both I totally remember them being one on a

853
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: golf course. It was not fun. But anyways, we got

854
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: an assignment and it was to go out to this

855
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: tent and we were into the summer by then, so

856
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: it was one hundred plus degrees and we were going

857
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: to go work at a new housing development and it

858
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 3: was going to be in Phoenix and way way south.

859
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: I grew up in the Scottstill area and in those days,

860
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: other than the I ten, there were no freeways in

861
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: this town, so I never really growing up even drove

862
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: on freeways. And we were going to help under this

863
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: tent serve lemonade while Neil Lomax, the quarterback of these

864
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: new NFL team in town, was going to sign posters

865
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: as Grand Cannon posters, which I always loved, and people

866
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: were gonna come by and they were going to try

867
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: and sell them houses.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: I got in my car with my friend. I didn't

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Speaker 3: have a car. My friend had to buy his own car.

871
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: His parents made him buy his own car, so it

872
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: had no air conditioning. So we're driving down the Iten

873
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: south and in those days, once you got past like Guadaloupe,

874
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: you were on the edge of the earth. And we're

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00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: driving and I thought it was gonna take forever. And

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00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: I said, where are we getting off? And he said

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Speaker 3: Ray Road? And I said Ray Road? Where the hell

878
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: is that? And we got to Ray Road and it

879
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: was hell like. We pulled off and it's the freakin' desert.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it might as melod Ben the Sahara, I'm like,

881
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 3: And I remember saying this in the car. We pulled

882
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: off and we're getting to wherever this, which is essentially

883
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: Awatuki now, and there was only a handful of houses

884
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Speaker 3: that have been built at this point. And I said,

885
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: and unfortunately I used bad language myself, being seventeen years old,

886
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: who that f would live out here? Which is hilarious

887
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: because if you know the area now, if you get

888
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: off at Ray Road and the I ten, it's obnoxious

889
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: how many cars are there and you can barely get

890
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Speaker 3: off because it's so crowded all the time. There wasn't

891
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: crowded that day. And we sat there for like two

892
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: hours and it was like the person from the house

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00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: selling the houses, and she would take people into the

894
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: trailer to try and show them stuff. Of course, most

895
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: of the time it was like these two heist just

896
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: graduated high schoolers and Neil Lomax just hanging out waiting

897
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 3: for people to show up in one hundred and five

898
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: degrees drinking lemonade. And that was my brush with fame

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Speaker 3: with Neil Lomax.

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Speaker 4: My favorite part of that story is Events with Tents,

901
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: because you know what you're getting right up front, what

902
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: a great business name Events with Tents.

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Speaker 3: I like that and I'm glad that's what she took

904
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Speaker 3: out of it.

905
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Speaker 2: And less than a year later, his NFL career was done.

906
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, by the end of the eighty eight season,

907
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: he pretty much knew because he ended up having a

908
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: degenerative hip issue. He hurt his knee at the end

909
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: of the eighty eight season, which basically derailed eighty eight.

910
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: But while he was hurt at the end of that season,

911
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: they started realizing the hip was going to be problem

912
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Speaker 3: and he had to retire after the eighty eight season.

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Speaker 2: But there was one monumental marquee win against the forty

914
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Speaker 2: nine ers where they got down twenty three to nothing

915
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Speaker 2: against the eventual world champion forty nine Ers, who we're

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Speaker 2: in the middle of winning five four Super Bowls in

917
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Speaker 2: seven years, because it was eighty one, eighty four, eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: and eighty nine or something like that.

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Speaker 4: So that whole story, you have to tell them where

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Speaker 4: they can at least find it, Darren the Folk Tales.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. Yeah, it will be on our

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Speaker 3: YouTube Arizona Cardinals YouTube channels starting seven pm on Wednesday night,

923
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Speaker 3: and the story right now is on Azycardinals dot com,

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00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: which we'll also have the video and the video embedded

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00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: in the story as soon as that comes out, and

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Speaker 3: there will of course be a podcast thanks to Jim

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Speaker 3: ol Mahundro and Paul Calvc, which can also be found

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Speaker 3: on all our podcast channels as well as Azycardinals dot

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Speaker 3: Com and embedded in the story.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I remember I actually remember watching that game

931
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Speaker 2: from the living room and my old man getting up

932
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: all disgusted that they blew the twenty three to nothing

933
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Speaker 2: lead because he was a forty nine Ers fan. He

934
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Speaker 2: was mister Joe Montana, so I remember, of course Montana

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Speaker 2: didn't play in that game, and uh so, yeah, it's interesting, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, Danny. Uh, you know when do the playoffs

937
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Speaker 2: start for for for your fantasy teams? This weekend?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I have one other thing can I

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Speaker 3: throw out there please? I will not be in the

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Speaker 3: office tomorrow because my youngest son is graduating from a

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Speaker 3: issue double major and I just want to say congratulations Eric.

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Speaker 4: Gradations Eric, very nice?

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Speaker 2: All right? Double major? Was that double the cost for Dad?

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Speaker 3: Fortunately, one of the reasons he could double major is

946
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Speaker 3: because he took enough college credits dual enrollment in high

947
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Speaker 3: school that he not only got the double major, but

948
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Speaker 3: he graduated in three and a half years. So I'm

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Speaker 3: happy about that.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, very impressive. I achieve her.

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Speaker 4: My goodness, you can't wait. So that means, Paul, we

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Speaker 4: get to Recavo when Darren's not in the building tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: There we go. All right, I'll follow your lead, Danny.

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Speaker 2: That'll do it. Here in this edition to Cardinals Underground,

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