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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: their roster. But headline in the day, because this happened

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Speaker 1: after swinging a trade for Khalil Mack. That costs them

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Speaker 1: What's motivating those guys that get paid. They're already got paid.

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Speaker 1: This is Khalil Mack's third team. Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 1: of questions, all on the same topic. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it's a done deal that Trubisky is gone this year? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And do you think Bills are seriously considering bringing Fitzpatrick back? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I would say Trubisky is it. Trubisky is as

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Speaker 1: good as gone because he's about to hit the jackpot

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Speaker 1: on the free agent market. The quarterback landscape is so

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Speaker 1: barren that he's going to be able to get a

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Speaker 1: second crack at being a starter again, and he's going

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Speaker 1: to get paid starter money somewhere. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to surprise people. I really do. So he's not coming back.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, I think is an interesting consideration for backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I'd be in favor of it. You know, he loves Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Even when he was playing for the Dolphins, he said

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Speaker 1: his favorite place to play was in Buffalo. And he's

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Speaker 1: played for nine NFL teams, So I and more importantly,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, Joe, I think you could have him

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Speaker 1: for a reasonable price. He's thirty nine years old. Got

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Speaker 1: to pay him three Yeah, does he want to basically,

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Speaker 1: does he want to play? That is an important question.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. He went through a really tough injury

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Speaker 1: last year. His hip came upon the whole year, missed

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Speaker 1: the whole year, and you know, if he wants to

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Speaker 1: come back to certainly you'd want your medical people to

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Speaker 1: get the okay on whether he's healthy enough to play.

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Speaker 1: And to me, as much as we love him, i'd

449
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Speaker 1: want to see the guy work out. Yeah, I want

450
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Speaker 1: to see the guy have to pass a physical and all.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him run and throw and all

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Speaker 1: of that. Certainly he's one of the quarterbacks that you

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Speaker 1: could hire as a backup that would not be the

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Speaker 1: same skill set as Josh. Correct he move around a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but as a backup, his experience, his savvy,

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Speaker 1: his intelligence, his his his teammate is being a teammate.

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Speaker 1: You can't find anybody better than fits. So he's good,

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Speaker 1: be good for the room. On question, Yeah, he's off

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Speaker 1: the charts and all the stuff you want to backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback to be. But would he be willing to be

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Speaker 1: a backup and would he is he still able to

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Speaker 1: play if in a pinch he needs to finish a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he'd be a good I mean, and I know Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton's another guy that we said would be a good

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Speaker 1: guy and guy a little bit like Fits. He's been

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Speaker 1: around the block now with the time, I think Chicago

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Speaker 1: Dalton would be a guy that would be welcome here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo too and could help. And I think he

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Speaker 1: still got a little gap football left in him as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. We're gonna go to

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Speaker 1: Julian and Buffalo. What do you have first, Julian? Pretty good? Great? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know when you guys are discussing Thursday, next Thursday

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Speaker 1: and next Thursday. Yeah, what I want to get to

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Speaker 1: a political get your opinion on Do you guys believe

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Speaker 1: he's I personally think he might be better than Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: Maybe quarterbacks, he's been out of the league for five

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Speaker 1: years plus. Maybe m no, And I don't believe this

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Speaker 1: is probably get rid of amas with Bobby Wagner. I'll

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Speaker 1: just hang okay, all right, thanks for the call, Julian. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll take the first one while let's Steve Handle, Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: I think with respect to Colin Kaepernick, it's un There's

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Speaker 1: no debating that he has elad physical traits. He's six

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Speaker 1: foot six, he runs like a deer, and he has

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Speaker 1: a rocket arm. Not tremendously accurate with that arm, which

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Speaker 1: is why when Jim Harbaugh had him as his quarterback

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco there was a lot of readoption stuff.

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Speaker 1: He ran the ball a great deal. He could throw

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Speaker 1: it um. I don't know that his completion percentage was

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Speaker 1: ever higher than sixty two percent. I'll check it. The

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Speaker 1: big question here is what is he now right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: as you pointed out, he hasn't played in five years.

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Speaker 1: I know he's putting videos out on social media. I'm

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Speaker 1: working out again, blah blah blah. You have to really

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Speaker 1: drill down on is he still an elite athlete that

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Speaker 1: can play at this level? And then more importantly, is

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Speaker 1: he good enough to be a starting quarterback? Is he

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Speaker 1: still starting caliber? I mean, because you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: guy that's going to run your offense, and I know

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Speaker 1: there are desperate teams out there, and who knows, maybe

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Speaker 1: somebody checks it out, they like what they see and

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00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: they take a swing, but that is a long layoff, Steve,

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Speaker 1: that's a long layoff. What are we talking five seasons?

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Speaker 1: Five seasons? First of all, I don't believe he wants

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Speaker 1: to play at all. He proved it in the workout

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Speaker 1: that was set up by the NFL. He's doing his

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Speaker 1: best to stay relevant and stay on the NFL's radar

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Speaker 1: and on the landscape of social media. And that's where

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Speaker 1: it ends. He walked away from a twelve point five

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract in San Francisco five years ago or

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Speaker 1: whenever it was he left San Francisco. Well, he got

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Speaker 1: released after after his contract was up right or no,

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Speaker 1: he dropped it out. He opted out. He had an

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Speaker 1: opt out. He opted out, is the way I understand it.

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Speaker 1: He also was reported that John Elway offered him a

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Speaker 1: contract and he turned it down. So there's all this

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Speaker 1: stuff about this the social activism, and I get all

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Speaker 1: that and and certainly agree with a lot of of

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Speaker 1: what he said, but he to me, he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to play. The at workout that was set up by

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Speaker 1: the National Football League in Atlanta, and everybody was going

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Speaker 1: to be there under the same same parameters that every

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Speaker 1: other workout in the NFL goes through. He sabotaged it

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00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: because and it came became pretty clear the only reason

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Speaker 1: he wanted to get that workout done was so that

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Speaker 1: he could have the video of the workout in order

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Speaker 1: to make a night commercial. So he wanted to use

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Speaker 1: his He's hell the position with Nike as one of

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Speaker 1: their ambassadors. He wanted to use the video from the

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Speaker 1: workout in Atlanta with all the faces we all recognized

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Speaker 1: from around the National Football League and use it as

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Speaker 1: a as a Nike promotional civil activists, like much along

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Speaker 1: the lines that they did with with just do It

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Speaker 1: uh stuff, where you know it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: marketing campaign centered around Colin Kaepernick's civic activism. That's why

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Speaker 1: he wanted to do the workout and have all the video.

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Speaker 1: But in the under the parameters in the NFL, they

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Speaker 1: get the video and he didn't like that because he

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Speaker 1: couldn't use it for his own commercial for Nike. So

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00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: he moved the he and the last eleventh hour moved

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Speaker 1: it on the same day to a high school in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta so he could video it and do all and

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Speaker 1: so it was not about football. It's never been about

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Speaker 1: football for Colin Kaepernick. He doesn't want to play football.

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00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: He wants to be something else. So that's where that stands.

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Speaker 1: The guy may be able to play, to me, you

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Speaker 1: can't convince me that he wants to, no matter what

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: you read on social media. It's a giant risk for

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00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: two reasons. One, he hasn't played in five years, and

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00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: this league gets faster for older players, not slower. And

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Speaker 1: number two, you have to have an inherent level of

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Speaker 1: trust that this is what he genuinely wants to do,

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00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: as Steve points out, because this is a guy that

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Speaker 1: you're pinning your offensive hopes on quite literally if you

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Speaker 1: want to even let him compete to be the starter

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00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: and ask for And as for Tremaine Edmonds being switched out,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's always a possibility until they signed him

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00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: to his until they you know, sign his tender and

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00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: all whatever. He's got his fifth year year option, he's

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Speaker 1: playing on that. Do they sign him to an extension

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00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: and that's guaranteed. Yeah, So unless they get a better

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Speaker 1: value for a guy that's Tremaine Edmonds, who's the lynch

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Speaker 1: pin of their defense. And by the way, it was

563
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Speaker 1: a number one defense a year ago and not da

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Speaker 1: We're going along about that train. Edmonds isn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: So he's and ted fourteen million dollars or something this year.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what it is. It's Garrete point

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Speaker 1: twelve point six million dollars seven. Yeah, so that's Tremaine

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Speaker 1: Edmonds isn't going anywhere. Certainly there are gonna be some

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Speaker 1: linebackers out there that a lot of fans are gonna

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00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: love and want to want a part of. But Tremaine

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Speaker 1: Edmands isn't going anywhere this year. And he's twenty five

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00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: years old. Bobby Wagner will be thirty two before next season.

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Speaker 1: That plays a role. Also, it counts, Yeah, it matters.

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Speaker 1: U and Kaepernick had only one season in which he

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Speaker 1: completed UH sixty two percent or better of his passes.

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Speaker 1: It was the year that he started only seven games.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the most impressive thing about him

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00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: is his touchdown interception ratio seventy two career touchdowns, thirty picks.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Cap is too, he was a great athlete.

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Speaker 1: I did the Super Bowl that where they played against

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00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: the when the lights and Ravens when the lights went out.

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Speaker 1: He had a phenomenal finish to that season. But the

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Speaker 1: way I understand he opted out of a contract was

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Speaker 1: gonna pay him twelve point five million, and and I

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00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: think I felt I remember this at the time, and

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00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I could be wrong about this, but I think I'm right.

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Speaker 1: He opted out of a twelve point five million dollars

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00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: contract because he figured and had that saw the writing

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00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: on the wall. The Niners were going to move on

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00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: from him anyway, so he opted out rather than be cut,

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00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: and he walked away. So yeah, but the stuff you're

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00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: hearing on social media now and nothing is going to

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Speaker 1: amount to it, And it has to do with his

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Speaker 1: To me, it has to do with his desire to

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Speaker 1: actually want to play football before any team would even

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Speaker 1: begin to even speak to him or work him out

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00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, the guy it was like it

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00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: took an Act of Congress to get the guy to workout,

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Speaker 1: and then he sabotaged it. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how bad he wants to play, because his actions speak

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Speaker 1: just the opposite. Break time for us here more of

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Speaker 1: your phone calls. Next on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: a Collid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve's tasker

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Speaker 1: with you here on an obl fan mail bag Friday,

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Speaker 1: and we go right back to the phones for questions

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Speaker 1: and leading us off in this segment is Tom and

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Speaker 1: cheeked Towaga. What do you got for us? Tom? Well,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, gentlemen. I'm currently taking a break from moving

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Speaker 1: stuff out of my garage that's accumulated during the winter

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Speaker 1: that I was under the impression was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: moved by next weekend, and I love it. That's tomorrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I want to eat you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, this this ingram is really intriguing. And could

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Speaker 1: he run the same type of plays that Mackenzie could

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Speaker 1: run the death side and speed that would be deadly?

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Speaker 1: And last quick question is the San Diego defensive end

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Speaker 1: that's now a free agent? I forgive me. I don't

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Speaker 1: know his name, like the my guess out of the draft.

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Speaker 1: He's a younger guy. He might be a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: What he'll find me type deal? Yeah, hang on, Tom,

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Speaker 1: I'll find that guy for you. And thanks for the

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Speaker 1: pall ingram, Steve. He has the speed we know that,

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Speaker 1: he certainly has more size. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: a jet sweep type, so I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: doing those kinds of things like Isaiah McKenzie. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's lining up in the backfield. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know he's got the body to do that, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the line the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: have tried to use him in that situation. Certainly he's

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Speaker 1: got speed enough to do. If you watch him play,

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Speaker 1: he looks like a guy like that. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think if you want to line him up in the

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Speaker 1: slot and run him across the back of the formation

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Speaker 1: and do a jet sweep that way, sure you can

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Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I mean, which is what Isaiah mackenzie

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Speaker 1: was doing. I mean, just come across and catching him

638
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Speaker 1: in the right and timing it up. Certainly, he's got

639
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: a big body, and I think he's a perfect candidate

640
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: to do that kind of stuff. I really do. Don't

641
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: know that they've tried it right, and for some reason

642
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: he can't do it. But I don't know why he

643
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: couldn't be able to, because I'll tell you what. When

644
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: he catches the ball out of the slot, when he's

645
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: down the field in space, the guy runs like a

646
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: running back. He runs like he's a tremendous athlete, and

647
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: like Brownie said, he's got elite physical traits. The guy's big, fast,

648
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: and he catches the ball welllusive. He looks like a

649
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: superstar when you see him play for the Giants. And

650
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why he is what he is. I

651
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: don't know what's gone wrong for him there, but I

652
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: mean his highlight reel is like really impressive and he's

653
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: catching from you know, Eli and Daniel Jones. And the

654
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: other thing that would be interesting is both he and

655
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox from All Miss both came from the same college.

656
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: So there's that also the defensive end that is a

657
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: free agent that Tom was thinking of his uchennant and Woasu,

658
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: who's a nice player, power rush type player, more than

659
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: a speed rush player. But I think he would fit

660
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: the measurables that the Bills typically look for at that position.

661
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: You know they usually look for Oh no, maybe not.

662
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: He's only six two. I thought he was taller. They

663
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: usually like six to four and above. Jerry Hughes was

664
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: an exception for a while here, So it's not like

665
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it, but more often than not, they

666
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: look for a guy six four and taller to play

667
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: the end position, but he had a productive season last year.

668
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see. It depends what the price tag is,

669
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: because again now you're getting back to the highest priced

670
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: positions on the free agent market defensive end, quarterback, cornerback,

671
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I'm of the belief that the Bills are

672
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: going to gravitate more to the lower priced positions in

673
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: free agency, knowing their cap situation is going to be

674
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: kind of tight, like tight end, which is why we

675
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: were bringing up Evan Ingram today, right. I mean, I

676
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: would see and Brownie makes a lot of sense. The

677
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: tight end is a playmaker, difference maker offensively, it's not

678
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: off the charts expensive. Same same thing would be like

679
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: a like a Matt Brida was last year. He's a

680
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: guy that you think maybe has a chance to roll

681
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: the dice on, come in and hit a home run.

682
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: It's not costing you anything. Another one another position like

683
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: that would be offensive, an interior offensive behind you guard.

684
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: Those guys don't break because you know, tackles are the

685
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: big money guys because they're pass protectors and guards have

686
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot of help down inside and don't have to

687
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: move real good. So there's more guys that can fill

688
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: that role. And really what you need is a body

689
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: and some feet to play that. It's just not an

690
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: expensive position, so that makes a lot of sense. And

691
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: back in the day it would be like a fullback,

692
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, but nobody uses those guys anymore, right, those

693
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: guys are almost obsolete, So it makes a lot of

694
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: sense to look at tight ends and guard interior offensive

695
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: linemen like that for people who might be the first

696
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: people signed a free agency that are not a Buffalo

697
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Bill already. Yeah, it's it's certainly gonna be interesting. I

698
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: think if there's anything that hu Chenna and wols who

699
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: already knows he's not going to be back in La

700
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 1: after they swung the trade for Khalil Mack, so he'll

701
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: be looking for work somewhere else. Let's go back to

702
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: the phones and to Judy and Buffalo. What do you have? First, Judy,

703
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: three things? I agree with Steve that these high price

704
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: free agents aren't worth the owner's package they can bring

705
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: to a team. Secondly, Isaiah Hodgins I believe was drafted

706
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Speaker 1: the same year as Gabriel Davis, yep, what is his

707
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: current status? And Third, is there a chance they could

708
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: bring Matt Berkley beck as a backup quarterback. Yeah, all good,

709
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: All good points to bring to the table, Judy, thanks

710
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: for that. Steve is happy that you agree with him. Second,

711
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Speaker 1: I would say Isaiah Hodgins is firmly in the mix

712
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: to be one of the top five or six receivers

713
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: on the roster this coming season. He's still on his

714
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: rookie contract. As we know, he spent the better part

715
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Speaker 1: of the first two years on the practice squad. He

716
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: got called up for a game, but then I believe

717
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Speaker 1: he was inactive, so he was one of those if

718
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Speaker 1: you remember the rules last year, you could have two

719
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: practice squad call ups on game day. They called him

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Speaker 1: up as one of the two, but then in the

721
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Speaker 1: end he wound up being an active player and didn't

722
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: dress for the game. So he really hasn't had much

723
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: of an opportunity in a regular season game. But I

724
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: would anticipate that he's going to be firmly in the

725
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Speaker 1: mix to be receiver four or five or six, depending

726
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Speaker 1: on the off season and the training camp and the

727
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: preseason that he has. I'd like to say it's and

728
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: it is a little concerning that Isaiah Hodgins hasn't found

729
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: his way onto the active roster on a game day.

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00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: He's been inactive and he's been on the practice squad,

731
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Speaker 1: and you think, well, guys, you know, how good can

732
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Speaker 1: he be? Is he getting better? Are they are they

733
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Speaker 1: working on him getting better? What kind of guy is?

734
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Speaker 1: We don't know anything about him because we haven't seen

735
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Speaker 1: him on the field. And while that that's like, I

736
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: don't know, if you put him out there, all of

737
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: a sudden, we're not as good because he wasn't as good.

738
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Speaker 1: And well, the guys they had out there were top notch.

739
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean Cole Beasley, Diggs, Gabe Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, then

740
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: Kumaro of course, who is a special teams guy giving

741
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: his bast snaps and what and hiss back he just

742
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: resigned and his back as well. How good can Isaiah

743
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: Hodgins be when he can't get on the field. Well,

744
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: it's a tough it's a tough team to make. And

745
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins may be a guy who could play for

746
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: a lot of teams in the league. But because the

747
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: Bills are so deep and have the guy they got

748
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: pulled into trigger and the Bills are supporting that talent

749
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: at quarterback. But with all these weapons, it's a hard

750
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: group to break into. So with Isaiah, Isaiah Hodgins can

751
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: get it together and improve or get to the point

752
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: where he's their best option, you may see him. And

753
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily discounting how good he is right now.

754
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a hard it's a hard eleven

755
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: to break into. When you're out on the huddle with

756
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen's pulling the trigger and you

757
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: got Diggs, Davis, Beasley, McKenzie out there and Knox, it's

758
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: a hard it's hard to get on the field with

759
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: those guys. So we don't know really anything about Isaiah Hodgens,

760
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: and so it's impossible to say. And as for Matt Barkley,

761
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: he finished the season with the Carolina Panthers. He was

762
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: with the Titans for a while, did not get into

763
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: the to a game. He was on their practice squad,

764
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: then went down to Carolina. I have to check. I

765
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 1: believe he's a free agent, but I have to double

766
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: check that because it seems to be a little bit

767
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: unclear from what I'm pulling up online here. But we

768
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: will take a break. When we come back, we'll get

769
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: to Chuck and Clarence and Bob and amherst here on

770
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: one Bill's Line, presented by Kalid to health, it's Buffalo

771
00:42:42,960 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. I can't resist. It's the dad joke poison

772
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: that's in my body. Reserve cornerback for the Dolphins, Nick

773
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: need him. He's a restricted free agent, and it looks

774
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins are going to tender him at the

775
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: second round level, which is pretty steep for a guy

776
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: who's a backup player. So I was tempted to say,

777
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: apparently the Dolphins need him more than we thought. Yeah,

778
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: that is a dead joke. Well, they can afford to

779
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: do that. They still got two high priced corners over there. Correct, yes,

780
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: by anybody behind him Xavien Howard, but they have no

781
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: igbanagen A, a former first round pick. Yeah, and need

782
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: him plays a lot for them, because if you remember,

783
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: there were a lot, well at least under flora As.

784
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Maybe it changes now, but I remember them when they

785
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: were playing the Bills, they got three down linemen and

786
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: sevent dbs on the field with one linebacker like they

787
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: were playing. They even played a couple of snaps with

788
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: eight dbs like, so I understand why you think you

789
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: need him, But are you really that worried somebody's going

790
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: to pull him away and make him an offer? Ship.

791
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they put a second round tender

792
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: on him. What Josh does the defensive coordinators? Yeah right,

793
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones and we go to

794
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Chuck and Clarence. Chuck, do we finally have you? Yeah?

795
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Thank you. Sure, gonna get off the topic a little bit,

796
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: but maybe not so much. I heard Steve mentioned he

797
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: was at the hockey game last night. Yeah, and I

798
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: got to thinking how grateful I am, and probably most

799
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Speaker 1: of the fans already have a leader like Josh is

800
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: um and both young guys, both tremendous skills, he and Michael,

801
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: but a guy that walked in and really understood how

802
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: how he stood in inside of a big business like sports.

803
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: His maturity, um, his knowledge who pays the bills, his

804
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: respect respect for those who pay the bills, which we

805
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of heard from sister Michael last night. Um it.

806
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: Really they're really diametrically opposing each other their characteristics in leadership.

807
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: He never Michael never really was part of the community.

808
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: He never I never felt he was part of the community.

809
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: He didn't really show an effort, and Josh did it

810
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: right away. And I think I just like I said,

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Speaker 1: I just got up this morning listening to all the

812
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: chatter about last night's game and just saying, Wow, are

813
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: we lucky to have a superstar like Josh? But just

814
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: a great guy and a guy that really understands leadership.

815
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean, really think about it. He's the second most

816
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: important person in the franchise. If you say the owners

817
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: are one, he's two. Everybody else is expendable, and so

818
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: he could be at Prima Donna if he wanted to. UM,

819
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: but we're I think we're very grateful to him. Yeah.

820
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: I think everybody would agree with you. And it brings

821
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: up the question, Steve. We hear all the time and

822
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: personnel people in the NFL are going to be going

823
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: over this when they get ready for the draft. Are

824
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: leaders born or are they made? And I will say

825
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: Josh would lead you to believe they are born, not made,

826
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: because he just seemed to have that naturally within him,

827
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: just the ability to pull people in. People gravitate to him.

828
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: There's just this gravitational pull that he has, and he

829
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: knows how to handle it and how to handle people

830
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: and how to pull people together and say let's go

831
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: follow me. I don't know if they're born or made,

832
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: but you know, certainly people, you know, young kids start

833
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: playing team sports, and it's a it's a seminar. Every

834
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: time you go to practice, every time you go to

835
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Speaker 1: a game, every time you do something as a group

836
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Speaker 1: with your buddies and your friends and your team, particularly

837
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: an organized team, it's a seminar on leadership. I mean,

838
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: you have to be pretty pretty, you know, you got

839
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: to be pretty dumb not to be able to look

840
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: around yourself at your friends and your teammates and your

841
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: coaches and not understand about how the dynamics are working

842
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: within that group, why this kid always gets preferential treatment,

843
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: or why this guy is always the quarterback, or why

844
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: that guy's always why that guy's a really good player,

845
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: and how that good player makes you feel about your

846
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: own game. You know, about how does your coach make

847
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: you feel about your own game, and how does the

848
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Speaker 1: coach make you feel about each other? All that's a seminar,

849
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: and and it teaches you how to bring people together

850
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: or when they do stupid things, or when you got

851
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: a bad coach or a bad teammate, how awful it is.

852
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Kids grow up in that, you know, playing organized sports,

853
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: and soccer is the same way football, certainly that way hockey, basketball.

854
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: All that you learn through watching and trial and error

855
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: and how you the things you do affect other players

856
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: on your team and you try and emulate it, You

857
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: try and get the most out of your teammates, or

858
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: you do the opposite. You don't do that, and you

859
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: think it's all about you, and you never have anybody

860
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: set you down and tell you why things are happening.

861
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, Josh Allen from the word go has been

862
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: a guy who's been four his teammates. He's built them up,

863
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: he's reached out to them, he's gone the extra mile.

864
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: He's you know, taking care of him when he can.

865
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: He you know, points, he you know, puts his arms

866
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: around them and includes them in his superstar status. All

867
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: of that. That's a huge thing, having a leader who's

868
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: inclusive and who's also, at its very core, a servant.

869
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, there is a lot of you know, you

870
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: can compare Josh Allen to a lot of guys and

871
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: he'll come out looking pretty good. And in this you know,

872
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: the last twenty four to forty eight hours, you know,

873
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Jack Jack Eichel is just one of the people who

874
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo fans are comparing to a guy like Josh Allen,

875
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: and it's hard. It's hard to measure up to a

876
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: guy like that. And he's a great player, a tremendous, great,

877
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: gifted player, but he's an even better person, a better teammate,

878
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: loves his guys, and he's he's out there hurdling people. Yeah,

879
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard not to want to get on

880
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: the field and help him when he plays like that

881
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: and acts like that. When we came back from break,

882
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: we neglected to answer Judy's last question concerning Matt Barkley,

883
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: but to our best knowledge, he is in fact a

884
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: free agent. He bounced around to a lot of rosters

885
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: this past year because he was seen as an option

886
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: when teams were losing quarterbacks to the COVID reserve list.

887
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: So he was with Tennessee on their practice squad, then

888
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: he went to Carolina and after that he went to Atlanta,

889
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: but he was released the last week of the season.

890
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: So because he didn't finish the season on a roster,

891
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't really appear anywhere as an unrestricted free agent

892
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: because people aren't remembering Oh, this guy was out there,

893
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: but he didn't finish the year on a roster. To

894
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: our knowledge, he is an unrestricted free agent, so he

895
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: would be available if the Bills thought of him as

896
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: an option going forward. We have to take a break

897
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: here because when we come back, we are going to

898
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: be joined by the NFL Senior Director of Diversity, Equity

899
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: and Inclusion, Sam Rappaport, is going to join the show.

900
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: There is a huge forum that she is planning with

901
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: the league office for next week, and Bill's coaches and

902
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: front office people are going to be heavily involved. We'll

903
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: tell you about that with Sam. Next here on one

904
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio,

905
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: Wait Time beforeward Progress. It's about a estman opportunity, the futest,

906
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: about the SPA decinction, whole school, NFL anymore than women

907
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: Got now a next doctor neilsy S a Fower Flicks

908
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Chapter Smith. Yes, the first time female coach. So she

909
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: put it down for the weather. Get it was the

910
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: chest because she's sheeting its twenty twenty. On week three,

911
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: it was a woman official. When two coaches on the sideline,

912
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: that's a three piece Scheff and ching change the first

913
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: teamail black coach can't young black girls man hoping not

914
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: to treat is too real and that's stuff. I mean

915
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: buck draw Thanks to the leaders and fishing there we

916
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: say football, it's hey female coaches. Six years ago, there

917
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: were none shows that we took off. Wein's slowing down.

918
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: Need these women gonna need a bigger lange. And we

919
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: got two women coaching at the Super Bowls who can't

920
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: find a bigger game. We like to celebrate the first

921
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: you can't play and said it's no more because when

922
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: that happens to the speaking bargain. So we overcame on

923
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: the closed dog from scouting a person nail with football

924
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: lobster leads took a good stand. It's far from Uperbowl

925
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: with who we got. I think the NFL is in

926
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: good hand, all right, look at that changing our show

927
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: open here for our next guest joining us here second

928
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: hour of one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

929
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: you and please to be joined now by NFL Senior

930
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: Director of Diversity Equity Inclusion, Sam Rappaport back on the show. Sam,

931
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: good to have you and a timely time to have

932
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: you because and I'll begin here. You've got a big

933
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: women's forum, the sixth annual coming up next week, right,

934
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, Monday, we start virtual for a second

935
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: year in a row. We're excited to get going. Six

936
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: years a long time, but we've seen a lot of

937
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: success as the program started. I would say this anybody

938
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: who watches the NFL as closely as we do, one

939
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: of the things you notice about the last six years

940
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: is more and more women in more and more roles,

941
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: both on the field and off the field. Of course,

942
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: you see it's great because you see the ponytails and

943
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: the officials, everyone's like, oh, there you go, and you

944
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: notice it, right, And then there's also off the field

945
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: tons more females that are all over the league. It's

946
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: got to be gratifying for you guys in the last

947
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: six years to see that happen, not only behind the

948
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: scenes but also front facing on the field and in

949
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: other executive offices. There's no question. You know, when it

950
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: first started it was wild with ponytail or wow, you

951
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: know there's a woman on the sideline, and then you

952
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: know our club owners and club gms and head coaches.

953
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: But they all decided to make changes, right, So now

954
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: you see Kim Bagool obviously, who was the first female

955
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: president in the NFL, and now we have two. You know,

956
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: we started with one female coach at the Bills and

957
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: then at the beginning of last season we had twelve.

958
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: So it's certainly gratifying to see that it's starting to

959
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: become more normal and less about the first this and that.

960
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: But let's just get to normalizations so these women could

961
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: just do their jobs instead of having to focus on

962
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: spotlight and then sam with respect to the forum next week,

963
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: as I understand, it's it's actually trying to put a

964
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: greater focus on women of color, connecting them with high

965
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: ranking people in the league. And I know the Bills

966
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: are pretty well represented, right, no question, the Bills are

967
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: always really represented since the program started. Kim was actually

968
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: the first owner to raise her hand to speak at

969
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: this program six years ago when she didn't know me

970
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: or anything about it. So I'm always have a soft

971
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: sparted soft spot in my heart for the Bills for

972
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: that reason. But coach McDermott, Brandon Being Kimpugoula and others

973
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Andy Gosper, Michelle Geeter all speaking this year, and you

974
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: know it's it's fantastic to see the progress and what

975
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: they've done, what you all done at the bills to

976
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: set the standard for you know, women being everywhere and

977
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: not just being you know, a token hire or one

978
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: year one. There really is you biquitous at the bills

979
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: and that's what we're striving for at ALL thirty two.

980
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: What is the what's the next step? What's the agenda

981
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: for this form going to be? Is there any you know,

982
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: what's the the topic that you want to address? Certainly

983
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: you want to continue to advance, but is there you know,

984
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: a different change of direction or an extra added topic

985
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: that you're gonna talk about this year that you're going

986
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: to emphasize. There is. So since we started the program,

987
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: twenty three clubs have hired women directly from the program,

988
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: and we want to shoot for thirty two. So we

989
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: want the entire NFL to to get on board with this.

990
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: And what we're doing is just offering a service to

991
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: the clubs. Right, we know that women don't find themselves

992
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: in the same social circles as men in football situations

993
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: to get these jobs, so we create a platform to

994
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: put them in work rooms, whether that's virtual or in person,

995
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: to meet people who could potentially hire them. And I

996
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: remember two years ago coach McDermott when we were at Combine,

997
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about this at the open

998
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: of the program. He was so impressed by someone that

999
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 1: he didn't even let her get to the airport before

1000
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: he called her and offered her a job. And if

1001
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the program, I'm not sure how Coach

1002
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: McDermott would have been in touch with her. So, you know,

1003
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: that's really the idea behind the program is get them

1004
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: in a room and they earn these opportunities on their own. Wet.

1005
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: We don't do that at all. That's all on the

1006
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: head coaches, gms and the participants themselves. And then I

1007
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: would imagine Sam just to kind of pump up your

1008
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: podcast too, because you co host the Earning Podcast and

1009
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: which kind of focuses on stories about women in the NFL.

1010
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: But is maybe just to kind of shine a light

1011
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: on that and let people know about that a little

1012
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: bit more. Do you do that weekly? And then what

1013
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: is like the main content that you guys try to

1014
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: shine a light on with respect to the league. Absolutely so.

1015
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: Jane Skinner Goodell, who happens to be married to Commissioner Goodell,

1016
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: but as also a veteran journalist has been doing this

1017
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: for quite some time. She took a look around at

1018
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: the NFL and you know, saw how expedited the progress

1019
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: was and said, we have to document this in some way.

1020
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: So really, this was Jane's brainchild. She decided to start

1021
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: this podcast and television series asked me to host it,

1022
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: which I was reluctant at first, but certainly got on

1023
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: board and happy I did because what we did is

1024
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: we're chronicling a moment in time in the NFL that

1025
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: we hope is an inflection point for the future of

1026
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: the league. This is when we're seeing a lot of

1027
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: first first females in coaching positions, first females in stouting positions,

1028
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: and you know, Jane's vision was, let's get them all

1029
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: on a podcast and talk about why it happened and

1030
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: how it happened, the true challenges. Right, it's not all

1031
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: rose colored glasses. There are some true challenges that women

1032
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL face that men, most men don't have

1033
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: to deal with. So we dive into it, and you know,

1034
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: super it was incredible to do. And now all of

1035
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: the season one episodes are live as of a couple

1036
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. What is the I mean, what does

1037
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: it look like for these women to get acclimated into

1038
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: the game. How do they get their foot in the door,

1039
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: How do they get you know, to the vernacular of

1040
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: how to speak about it, How do they get reps

1041
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: and coaching? How do you know where does that all begin?

1042
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: For most of them? Interestingly, many of them have played

1043
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: tackle football, and a lot of people don't know that

1044
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: women play competitive tackle football in the country. At one

1045
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: point there's one hundred and twenty three teams. Thousands of

1046
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: women play, and so through football circles in that way,

1047
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: or through our program, they get connected to head coaches,

1048
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, in general managers and such, and so I

1049
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: think all but one, if I'm not mistaken, of the

1050
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: female coaches in the NFL right now played professional tack

1051
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: from football or semi pro tackle football. But it's not

1052
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: a requirement. We know for men also it's not a requirement.

1053
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 1: And they get their rips the same way. They start

1054
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: out really green, like everyone does. And it's all about

1055
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: their attitude of how they're willing to learn and willing

1056
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: to get better. And if you look at you know,

1057
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: just using the bills as an example, if you look

1058
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: what coach McDermott does, you know to develop young coaches.

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: I think you've had three or four female coaches and

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00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: the bills have now gone on to other opportunities. So

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: it's you know, that's really we need that commitment from

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00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: everyone in order to accelerate this effort. And I know

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: the Forum is going to be a part of that,

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, as you said, putting women in social circles

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: with people that have the power to do that kind

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00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: of hiring. But what about the the on ramping because

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00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I know there were twelve women assistant coaches during the

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00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one preseason, and you know, we've heard over

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: the years about the Fellowship coaching program or the women

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00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: included in under that umbrella or is there a separate

1071
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: arm to on ramp them. It's a great question. So

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00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: it's two part answers. So, yes, they are included in

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: the Bill Walsh Fellowship, So several of coaches were several

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00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: female coaches were involved in that program last year and

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00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: they have been for quite some time. But we also

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00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: at our program, we spend quite a bit of time

1077
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: developing them, not because they're women. Everyone needs development when

1078
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: you're an entry level and you're starting out and you

1079
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know you know what you're doing. I certainly needed

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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: it when I was growing up. But we put the

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00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: participants every year through a two part development program. One

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: session which is two hours before the program starts, and

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00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: then another two hours during the program. Before the program,

1084
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: we teach them how to impress hand coaches and gms

1085
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: because they're all in their young twenties, right. I definitely

1086
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: would not have impressed John McDermott when I was twenty

1087
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: three years old. But you know, we take them through that,

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00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: and then we also take them through skills that they

1089
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: need to excel. Right. And again, this is not gender specific.

1090
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: Any population of people could listen to this and use

1091
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: it to thrive. It just so happens that we know

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00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: that women are so vastly underrepresented in the roles. And

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: that's why right now we're focusing on that group of people.

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01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: What's the next step for this program, for this seminar

1095
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: and moving forward? Certainly, the numbers are one way of

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01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: categorizing it and quantifying it. What else, Yeah, I mean

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: we want we want women on all thirty two teams

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: on their sidelines. I mean that's when we'll start to

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01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: it'll start to become normal because the overall goal here

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: is normalization. We don't like the spotlight. We don't like

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01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: to say the first female this and that. No one

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01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: wants that title. We don't want to say it. We

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01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: acknowledge it, and we move on. But the next step

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01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: for the program is that if every club gets involved

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01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: and we start seeing women on sidelines of every NFL team,

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01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: which it should because you know people identify as women

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01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: make up of the population, that will be success. To

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: answer your question directly, and it's going to happen soon. Yeah,

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01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: And I know that the Bills aren't the only team

1110
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Speaker 1: doing this, but you know you mentioned one of your

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01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: speakers is going to be Andrea Gospel. We call our

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01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: Andy here at the office. But Andy's in more of

1113
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: a in the scouting department and the personnel department role.

1114
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: And I would imagine you're looking to diversify the scope

1115
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: of female representation in football as well. And I know

1116
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: the Bills probably aren't the only person with a female

1117
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: in the scouting or personnel department, but her being able

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Speaker 1: to kind of come to that forum and share that

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: because I think when women think about getting into football,

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Speaker 1: and you can correct me if I'm wrong, Sam, But

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01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think about the coaching avenue,

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: So is Andy going to kind of kind of share that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: there are other avenues too, Definitely? And I think there's

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Speaker 1: so many women in college football who do not consider

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Speaker 1: the GM track that we call it because they don't

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Speaker 1: really know it exists, because in college recruiting is completely

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Speaker 1: different than what scouting is in the NFL. And Andy's

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Speaker 1: such an interesting story because we found her and I

1129
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: remember she contacted us after the program and said, can

1130
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: I just ask you like how did you find me? Like?

1131
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: Where did you guys come from? And now in speaking

1132
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: to Brandon Being, you know, he tells me she's one

1133
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: of the best scouts he's ever had. So, you know,

1134
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: it's just one after the other. Are the bills, honestly

1135
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: success stories of how this can work. But Andy will

1136
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: be speaking with coach and with Brandon Being and Michelle Geeter,

1137
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: who has an incredible reputation as well about that exact

1138
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: thing Steve about you know that if you're in recruiting

1139
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: or if you're in football operations, have you ever considered

1140
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: the evaluation side and the player personnel side, and we've

1141
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: seen many women from the program divert their interests from

1142
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: that area, which is typical in college football, to the

1143
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: scouting gmtrack. What is the biggest obstacle? Is it maybe

1144
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 1: supply of qualified ladies to do it? Is it are

1145
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: you still getting andy pushed back from any of the teams,

1146
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: even the ones that don't have females on their coaching

1147
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 1: staff or in their building. Are you still getting pushed

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: back from them at all? And certainly the benefits and

1149
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: the success that they've had so far and their inclusion

1150
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: has got to like knock down all those barriers, right,

1151
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, so, what's the biggest obstacle? Is it getting

1152
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: them trained up so they are qualified to do these jobs?

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01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: Is it awareness that you know of where you can

1154
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: find women to be a part of their program? And

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01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: I hopefully there can't be any pushback over this because

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01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: of the success they've already had, right Yeah. I mean

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01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: there's two things I would say that the main barrier one.

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01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, clubs probably wouldn't communicate to me if they,

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01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, if they didn't want women. But I think

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01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: there's still a preconceived notion about women's contributions to football.

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01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: And that's something that all the women who are currently

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: working in football operations are constantly fighting against those biased,

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01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: those stereotypes, when really they just want to do their

1164
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: darned jobs right. But interestingly, on the coaching side, and

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01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: this is a good problem to have, the challenge we

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01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: have is that the demand outweighs the supply right now.

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01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: And you know, there are there are more and more

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01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: head coaches that are understanding the value and including the

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Speaker 1: whole population, and we need more and more women to

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: get into coaching, you know, at the entry level ranks

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01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: at pewee football high school college, so we can keep

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01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: feeding the pipeline. So we do have candidates who have

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01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: enough experience to work in NFL teams. No, we've we've

1174
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: talked about before we came on. We're talking about you know,

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: earning It and the series that is on. You got

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01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: five episodes out about you know, this topic about women

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: in football. How much feedback and it seems to me

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: that this has got to be really inspiring for a

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01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: young generation of people here in Buffalo. I mean it's

1180
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: a whole family. We get young women, middle aged women,

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01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: and the whole family. I mean everybody, men and women,

1182
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: black and white, rich and poor, old and young, are

1183
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: all huge Bills fans. This has got to be really

1184
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: inspiring for the entire generation of young people to know

1185
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: that there are a multitude of career opportunities in football,

1186
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: even if you're not six six, three hundred pounds, no question,

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Speaker 1: And I've had the great privilege of speaking with Billy

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: Jean King quite a bit, and you know, she drills

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01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: into all of us if you can't be what you

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: can't see. And I think what earning It is doing,

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: not just for you know, in college football and women

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01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but also for young girls growing up

1193
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: who love this sport as much as anyone does, you know,

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01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: for them to watch the show and see women in

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01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: those positions, then maybe they can direct their careers or

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: their interests to football, Whereas most girls growing up five

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: ten years ago wouldn't. We didn't even dream it up,

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01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: We didn't even know it was a possibility. I would

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: have liked to coach football, Honestly, I never never even

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01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: crossed my mind that it was a possibility for me.

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: And so really, I think that representation is so key

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01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: to young girls growing up. And I hope they watched

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: the series, and if they love football. You know, women

1204
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: make up forty seven percent of the NFL fan base,

1205
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: So if they love football as much as anyone does

1206
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: and they want to work in it, they understand that

1207
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: there's a spot for them. That series can be seen

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01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: on Peacock, that is the streaming network for NBC and

1209
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: episode five Greatest Show on Earth is the latest one

1210
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: that's going to be airing tonight, I believe. So that's good.

1211
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: And I knowing Sam tries to be she always tries

1212
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: to sink everything up. I am not prized in the

1213
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: least that this forum on Monday and Tuesday is during

1214
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: Women's History Month. I've got to believe that is no coincidence.

1215
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: Am I right about that? Yeah? I mean, interestingly, we

1216
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: typically hold it in February at the Combine, but because

1217
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: we had to go virtual this year, you know, we

1218
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: had to find a spot in March, which perfectly syanked

1219
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: up with you know, Women's History Month. So if anyone

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01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 1: needs additional incentives, you know, to hire female candidates this month,

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01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: there it is. There you go. Sam, Thanks as always

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: for the time. It's good to catch up with you again.

1223
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: Good luck with the forum next week. Thank you so

1224
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: much for having me both of you. I appreciate it.

1225
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: All right. That's Sam Rappaport, NFL Senior director of Diversity,

1226
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: Equity and Inclusion. We will take a break here, Steve

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01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: and I back with more in a moment on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Colloid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

1230
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and time to get back to

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: the phones. As the obi L Fan Friday mail bag

1232
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: is open both at Twitter and One bills Live and

1233
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: on the phone lines at eight o three oh five fifty.

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01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: Got some people there that have been waiting patiently. We

1235
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: go to Bob in Amherst. Next, Bob, what do you

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01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on One Bills Live. Hey, First

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01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: of all, you guys, you're really entertaining when you when

1238
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: you disagree on something. That manner about Khalil mass was great.

1239
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: That was really entertaining. But my question pre guys is, uh,

1240
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: you know the quarterback, the free agent quarterback that's shut.

1241
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: Nobody ever talks about Marcus Marioda. I mean, he had

1242
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of success in Tennessee and I you know,

1243
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: probably the same type of quarterback is Mitch Krabinsky. But

1244
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: you don't hear his name rattled off much. I'd like

1245
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: to hear what your comments are about him. Okay, we

1246
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: can do that for you. Good quarterback, he's a good teammate.

1247
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: I was shocked at the turn of events that happened

1248
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: in his career when he left Tennessee, who had drafted

1249
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: him I think third overall. He willingly accepted and just

1250
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: walked over to the Raiders and said I'm going to

1251
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: be a backup. That was a little I raised my

1252
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: eyebrows at that. Most guys want a chance to compete,

1253
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: and he probably could have found a spot where he

1254
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 1: could have been the starter or competed for a starting spot,

1255
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: or a place where he would have had a much

1256
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: better chance of getting on the football field than the

1257
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: Raiders with Derek Carr. And he willingly said now I'll

1258
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: just be a backup and then he stayed. It wasn't

1259
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: like he was looking for a step up or anything.

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: So I think he as a backup. He likes that role.

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01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: I think he feels comfortable there. He's got a good

1262
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: skill set I've from when he's played, even for the Raiders.

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01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: He's played pretty well. I like his skills. Say, he's

1264
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: got an okay arm, not a Josh Allen type arm

1265
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: by any stretch, but he runs with the ball well.

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: And he's had a lot of experience now after playing

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Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans as their starter in a high

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Speaker 1: draft pick, and then going to the Raiders and playing

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01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: under John Gruden and then at the end of it

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Speaker 1: for the interim coach. So yeah, I think Marcus Mariota

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Speaker 1: is a viable candidate. I think he's I know, he's

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01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: a really good teammate. Guys like him. He's quiet, he's

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: not a boisterous leader. He's kind of the on the

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01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum of leadership that Josh is

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: understated guy. But I think his teammates have really liked him.

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Speaker 1: They've always respected him, and he's you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: family first guy, comes from a big family. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about I think Mariota is a viable option,

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01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: no question about it. The only question with him is

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01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: is he willing to move east to come play for

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: a team. His family is based in Hawaii, and I

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: know after he left the Titans, being on the West

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: Coast was a priority for him. So he was in

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: relatively close produxivity. Hawaii's still five hours from five hours

1285
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: in the air from California, and he was in Las

1286
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: Vegas as we know last year. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that is still a priority for him. But as

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: Steve mentioned, family is a big deal for him, and

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Speaker 1: part of his struggles in Tennessee when he was there

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01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: was being a little bit homesick. Now granted, at that

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01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: time he was a twenty two year old rookie. He

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: had never been really off the West Coast for any

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: extended period of time before, having played his college ball

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01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: at Oregon, and so it was hard for him. It

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01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: was a difficult adjustment. And even after spending four years

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01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: with the Titans, he goes west to the Raiders doing

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: to be a backup and in part to be closer

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01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: to family, or at least have the wherewithal to get

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Speaker 1: home to family quicker. I don't know if that's still

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: an issue for him, but it'll bear watching as we

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01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: get on the free agent market here, and we'll find

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01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: out based on who he signs with, whether that was

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: still a priority for him going forward. Let's get back

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Speaker 1: to the phones and we go to Patrick on a cell. Next,

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: what do you have first? Patrick, Hello, you guys there, Yeah,

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01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: we're here. Yeah, Josh Allen, he's got that in factor.

1307
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: He's very successful. And all I can say is that

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, get this loss of Kansas City's

1309
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for him to shake. But you know

1310
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: how he can shake it, how he can be most

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: effective and dangerous call his own plays. He's earned it.

1312
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: He'd be the most dangerous man in all the sports.

1313
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: He might be the most dangerous man in all sports

1314
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: right now. He's already well, he'd be what that word

1315
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: they use now, Pariyah. That's him in a good sense.

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01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Okay. I don't know. I haven't talked to

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: Josh about it. I don't know that he wants that

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01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: or is clamoring to call his own plays. Maybe he is,

1319
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,919
Speaker 1: I haven't heard a word about that. And and quite frankly,

1320
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: when you got a coordinator like Brian Daboll who has

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: a relationship with Josh and there's a level of trust

1322
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: between him, I don't I don't know if I don't know.

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01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: If I agree with you, Patrick, I don't think there's

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01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: any tension there about Josh wanting to call other plays

1325
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: or anything like that, and if there was, Josh would

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01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: tell day Ball that and day they talk about it,

1327
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: and now Ken Dorsey. But you know, in the past,

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't think Josh has been clamoring to call his

1329
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: own plays. And quite frankly, if it's not broke, why

1330
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: fix it? Well, and not only that, with the degree

1331
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: of run pass option principles within the scope of the

1332
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: offense already, Josh very often is making the call at

1333
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: the line are we changing this to a run or

1334
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: are we changing this to a pass? So in a way,

1335
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: a lot of these quarterbacks today do some of their

1336
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: own play calling. They're choosing from two different plays, but

1337
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: still in all I think they have more on their

1338
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: plate than a lot of quarterbacks did in the previous generation.

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01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear now at this point in history,

1340
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: for most teams, offensive play calling is a collaborative effort. Anyway,

1341
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: Certainly there's one play caller who says, Okay, here's next

1342
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: time they lets try this and dada, And because he

1343
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: calls this play, certain you know, switches go off and

1344
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: everybody's not just the quarterback. When the player, like when

1345
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: the wide receivers in the office line hear it, things

1346
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: click in their mind because they've had conversations in team meetings. Listen,

1347
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: when I call this player when we're doing this, we're

1348
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: doing this because of A, B and C. So when

1349
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: we do this later on, we're gonna get back to

1350
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 1: it and then try this. And so when the players

1351
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: hear these plays called, those things come back to them

1352
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, I get it. Here's where we're at.

1353
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: Let's go. So it's not that this that everybody's out

1354
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: there going where did that play come from? This is

1355
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: all and it's all talked about and thought of, so

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: you know this, I get it. The one reason I

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: could see Josh calling his own plays would be if

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01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: they're going fast, if they're gonna go, no huddle, hurry

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01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: up offense and let Josh call his own play. Even then,

1360
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, the coordinator or the quarterback coach or anybody

1361
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: could chime in and say, hey, Josh, think don't forget

1362
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: about this or this formation, or you can't run this

1363
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: play and this with these people on the field, that

1364
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's collaborative, always had, it always is

1365
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: in the NFL these days, and if it's not, then

1366
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: it it's not everything. It could be collaboration, you get

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01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: more out of it. So I think, you know, yeah,

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: Josh calling the plays or anybody else calling the plays,

1369
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: don't think they're doing it in a vacuum or on

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: an island. Let's go to Bob and Buffalo next, Bob,

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01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? Hey? You guys not

1372
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the show, but I enjoyed your last segment

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01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: about females coaching. Okay, and there's a coach that you'd

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01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: be a felice show. Legged's Jack Oh the women's basketball Yeah, yeah,

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01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: who could coach any diren basketball team she wanted? If

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: you ask me, men's professional. Her teams are are well

1377
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: put together, her schemes are unbelievably done well, And I

1378
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 1: just don't see. You know, it's great that the NFL

1379
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: is doing this. Why isn't the NBA or the nc

1380
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: double A pushing the same type of you know, women's

1381
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: for for their sports. Yeah, well, I mean in defense

1382
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: of the NBA, I will say, Bob. Becky Hammond was

1383
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: promoted to Greg Popovitch's staff in San Antonio. She was

1384
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: an assistant head coach there and she's now a head

1385
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: coach in the w NBAUM. So it's not like they've

1386
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: been devoid of that. They're not moving, they're not moving

1387
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: at the pace that the NFL. It's all agree with

1388
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: you there. It's a little different in the NBA because

1389
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: there's a female league. And while there are small leagues

1390
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: and we heard you know, Sam say it, there's one

1391
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,879
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty some odd teams that are playing professionally

1392
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: in semi professionally around the national around the nation. Uh,

1393
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: there's not a commensurate league like the NFL. There's not

1394
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: a w NFL. So it's easier for men to men

1395
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: and women to you know, to do that because there's

1396
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: really only one venue for them to do. That's a

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: valid point, Bob, Men do coach in the women's leagues.

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01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: You are right, there's no debating that. Um. I do

1399
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: think this woman has the talent. Yeah, I'm just surprised

1400
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: nobody skimming a shot. She's a very talented and accomplished coach.

1401
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. I've I've seen

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: them at work and a long time ago I called

1403
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,839
Speaker 1: women's you Be games on the radio and they're familiar

1404
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: with the prospected. Yeah, so I'm familiar with the program

1405
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: and you know, and I'll say this too, Bob, not

1406
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: just because we're talking about it. She's probably not the

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: only one. Yeah, right, Yeah, there's probably dozens and hundreds.

1408
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a lot of them that are

1409
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: qualified and would do a really good job if if

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: that door was more open to them and I and

1411
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, I'd like to see it happen.

1412
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: But what does Yeah, I do agree with you, Steve

1413
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: that because there there is a women's league, and there

1414
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: is you know, women's college basketball is becoming just as

1415
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: popular as men's college basketball because you have a women's

1416
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: side of that sport. Um right or wrong. I think

1417
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the positions on the women's side of

1418
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: the sport are more often than not filled by women.

1419
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they shouldn't fill the same roles on

1420
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: the men's side of the sport. I mean, there's no

1421
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: reason it can happen. But I think that's the reason.

1422
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the principal reasons why it

1423
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: hasn't happened as fast and with as much momentum as

1424
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: we have seen it happen in the National Football League,

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: because there's an avenue for women to excel faster. I

1426
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: think we can agree that in many cases women are

1427
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: promoted to the major positions when there is a women's

1428
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: league faster than we've seen it happen on the men's

1429
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: side of the sport. It's just I'm not saying it's right,

1430
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: wrong or indifferent. It's just happened that way, don't I'll

1431
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: say this too, not because there are more female head

1432
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: coaches in the w NBA than the NBA. It's just

1433
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: that's a fact, right. I'll say this as well. In

1434
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: the NFL. One of the things that really burst the

1435
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: damn and we talked about it with with Sam Rappaport

1436
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: just in the last segment, was the fact that you

1437
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: get somebody like Kim Pagoula involved who's committed to it,

1438
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 1: and she did it for the Bills, and the Bills

1439
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: have success doing it, and everybody else is going, We'll

1440
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what are we missing out on here?

1441
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: There's some quality people out there, and they can bring

1442
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: in new ideas and new sets of eyes and a

1443
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: new perspective. Let's do it and that, you know, pulling

1444
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: that pin out of that, you know, release the inhibitions

1445
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: of teams that are like I don't know how will

1446
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: the players react, how will the other coaches react? And

1447
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: you can find out they're okay with it, and then

1448
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: you know that damn bursts. And now we've got a

1449
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: ton more women involved in the NFL because you had one,

1450
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, courageous owner who happens to be a female

1451
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: in a minority herself, who said, listen, guys, what are

1452
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: you doing? And she does it. And you know, I'm

1453
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: not giving her full, you know, the total credit for

1454
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: everything happening, but I'll tell you what. She was a

1455
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: big part of it. And I know as of twenty

1456
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: twenty four, NBA owners were females. I believe that is

1457
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: still the case. Majority owners, I should say, was Denver Nuggets, Lakers,

1458
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, Genie Buss, Utah Jazz, and the Spurs, which

1459
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 1: as we know, had Becky Hammond on their coaching staff.

1460
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: So there are right now. I believe there are more

1461
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: female owners in the NBA than in the NFL because

1462
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: we have the Detroit Lions, the Bills here. I want

1463
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: to say I'm missing one. There might be three. I

1464
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: don't think there's four. So yeah, maybe the NBA should

1465
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: get their rear in gear on that subject. But I

1466
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: think having a female league, I think it allows the

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: NBA to move it more of a glacial pace because

1468
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: they can say, well, there's plenty of opportunity over here

1469
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: in w NBA, you know. And I don't know. I

1470
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: don't know how much pushback they get. Who knows? I mean,

1471
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: we don't hear that. And I don't want to knock

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01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: the NBA either, because for the most part they've been

1473
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: a pretty progressive league all things considered. But yeah, there's

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01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: probably more work to do on that front. So good call.

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01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet, brought to you by

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01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, and from Nothing but a Day. The question

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01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: here is, with Trubisky likely out the door and Russell

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01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: Wilson in Denver, any chance the Bills show interest in

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01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater seems like it could make sense. Or is

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: that the way out of their price range? Or is

1482
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,879
Speaker 1: that way out of their price range given their salary

1483
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: cap status. Here's the question. The bigger question for Bridgewater

1484
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: with me and I actually responded to a question similar

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: to this on Twitter last night, is what is the

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01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: opportunity that Bridgewater thinks he can secure with a handful

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01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: of quarterback needy teams still in the league. As we

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01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: approach the opening of the free agent market, I think

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01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: Bridgewater and its representatives are going to see if there

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: is a starting opportunity somewhere first, and if there is,

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01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: that's where he's going. Now, Who's going to be ahead

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01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: of him in line in terms of what teams will want?

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01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: I think Trubisky is ahead of him in line. I

1494
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: think Winston's ahead of him in line. After that, though,

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 1: after that, it drives up pretty quick, and I think

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01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: Bridgewater is probably your third best option for a free

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01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: agent starter on the market, and he might find an

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01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: opportunity because we still have Seattle needing somebody, Pittsburgh needing somebody,

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01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: Caroline And eating somebody, Tampa Bay eating somebody. I mean,

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Speaker 1: run down the list. I mean there's more teams than

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01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: quality starting quarterbacks. Right. If you're asking about a Bill's

1502
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, what are you looking for? And if you

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01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: show that list again, you know Teddy Bridgewater at the top,

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01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, Mitch Trubisky, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Andy Dalton, Cam Newton,

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01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotto, Tyrod Taylor, Jacoby Brissette, Brian Horrior, there's I

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01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: don't Teddy Bridgewater is not one of the guys that

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01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of match what you would want in a skill

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: set for the Buffalo Bills. Andy Dalton probably not either,

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, and maybe a little more Marcus Mariota, Yeah,

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01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more, Tyrod Taylor, okay, Jacoby Brissette, Okay,

1511
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: but you're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick is very different. Jamis

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01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: Winston is not a runner, never has been a runner

1513
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: or an athlete with the ball in his hands. Teddy

1514
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: Bridgewater is not even Jamis Winston with the ball, you know, athletically,

1515
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't run well, it's not a part of his game,

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: doesn't move either, right, but he's he's like a now

1517
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: Cam Newton that maybe all he can do anymore. He

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01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: can't throw it. We've seen that. And I don't know

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01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: that he's got that mentor mentality that he'd be the

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01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: guy to help but get a starter, even though he's

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: been a starter. I don't think that's in his DNA

1522
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: cock right. That's right. So it's a list that the

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01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: best one on there still is Mitch Drobisky for backing

1524
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: up Josh Allen with a skill set. Now as you

1525
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: go the other side of the coin and you want

1526
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: him to be a backup that doesn't play. Ryan Fitzpatrick,

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01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton go to the top of the list, and

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01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: maybe Teddy Bridgewater a little bit as well. He's kind

1529
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: of got that mentorship as well, a lot of experience

1530
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: he's and he's had to be a tremendous teammate that

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01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So when you start looking at skill

1532
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: sets of a guy that can play that match with Josh,

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01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't always go with the guys that do what

1534
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback is going to do here in Buffalo theoretically,

1535
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: and let's get Josh ready to play and on game

1536
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: day be an asset in what Josh sees and how

1537
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 1: you can make him play better and adjust to what

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01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: the defense is doing on game day. Those are two

1539
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: very different skill sets and they don't always intersect with

1540
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: all the guys on that list that we're looking at. Yeah,

1541
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: so you know, take it for what it is and

1542
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: it comes Yeah, come think about it comes down to

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: if you just got a guy that just needs to

1544
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: finish the game, if Josh tweaks his ankle or whatever,

1545
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: you need a guy to finish the fourth quarter because

1546
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: Josh will be back next week. Any of those guys

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01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: will do if that's the all you ever need him for.

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01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: But if you need him to play for a stretch

1549
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: of time, you need to think about a skill set

1550
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: on the field, off the field, a skill set and

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01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 1: if it's you know, I think the skill set anymore

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01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: that pool is so shallow. Well, no, just want to

1553
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: take the guy that's the best in the room and

1554
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: can help you get through a couple of games and

1555
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: not kill I'll say this the only reason we're talking

1556
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: about the skill sets because we had it so good

1557
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: last year with Right it was a luxury. It was

1558
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: a luxury, and now we're not gonna have it. So

1559
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: if we're not gonna have it and we can't get it,

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01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Daltons Mariota might be a good one that

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01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: that that might be can move around and you can

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01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: move around a little bit. I like that. I like

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: the thought that Bob Brooks called in and said that

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01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: that's a good idea at Mariota. But you're right too,

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01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: Even at this point his career, he's like, I don't

1566
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: need to go to the East Coast time zone. Yeah,

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01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, um, I've got stuff going on out here West,

1568
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: so I you know, you may not be able to

1569
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: get him, but those guys are the intriguing ones to me.

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01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: The mentor type of backup quarterback? Yeah, uh from Vince.

1571
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: Could Bobby Wagner be a target with a J. Klein

1572
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: being released? No, he cost more than a J. Klein,

1573
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: so that's not really an option when the bills are

1574
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 1: going to be tied against the cap. Christopher said last weekend,

1575
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: I watched American Underdog and was wondering, one, when is

1576
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: the movie about Steve Tasker going to be made and

1577
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: coming out? And two who is going to play him?

1578
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: Play him? Sign me up to see that movie? Steve?

1579
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: Where does the second page? I had to get to it,

1580
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Jay told me, and make sure I got that one in. Um. Yeah,

1581
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: you want to pick an actor. What's the what's best

1582
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: casting for you? Well, the movie, first of all will

1583
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: be animated, so it'll be cartoon Oh animated, Yeah, and

1584
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: it'll be bugs money playing me or Elmer Fudd. One

1585
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: of the two. Elmer Fudd's more likely to play me

1586
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: with the hair content. So one more here on the

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01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Uh. If there is one player available for trade,

1588
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: free agency. Who does Steve and Brownie Field would make

1589
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: the biggest impact to add to the Bills to get

1590
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: us back to AFC Championship Game in a spot in

1591
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl if Bean could fit it into the

1592
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty two, twenty three cap. I'd love to know,

1593
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: since we all have of our favorites, is there one

1594
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: player that you think moves the needle that much puts

1595
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: you over the top. I don't think there is one

1596
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: player that will do that. Yeah, and without being able

1597
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: to tell the future, I mean right, Um. Well, more importantly,

1598
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills look for that one player

1599
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: in free agency. And I think, like I've said, I

1600
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: don't want to see them put all their free agent

1601
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: dollars into one guy. It's too risky and it's too

1602
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: difficult for that one guy to live up to that

1603
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: expectation and be that guy. The only guy I've seen

1604
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: do it in recent memory for the Bills is Stefan Diggs.

1605
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: Yeah he's performed trade. Yeah, Yeah, it's via trade. He

1606
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: lived up to it. Yeah, Okay, there's one. Um. I

1607
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: think of another one. Maybe Mitch Morris has played well,

1608
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: been a solid starter for five years. Um, because yeah,

1609
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: and I don't. Yeah, they look and it's not and

1610
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: it's because they're not looking for a giant free agents

1611
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: to overpay. We're no longer in the days of going

1612
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: out and getting Mario Williams, you know, in free agency

1613
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: and paying him sitting ninety six million over six years.

1614
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: They don't do that here. I think one of the

1615
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: things that makes Sean McDermott a really good head coach

1616
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 1: is the fact he understands being motivation. He understands how

1617
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: to get his guys to play hard. One huge thing,

1618
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: particularly in pro football, is they're playing. They're playing for

1619
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: their paycheck and their families well being. You get them

1620
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: on a one year, proved deal, they are going all out. Yeah,

1621
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 1: all out all year, and they are not taking a

1622
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: day off. They're not sitting on the bench because they

1623
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: gotta hang nail. They are gonna play through some stuff

1624
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go out and play hard. They do

1625
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: it with the contracts they give these guys, get them

1626
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: to play, and that translates into overperformance and that's that's

1627
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 1: a big thing for this football team. Sean McDermott understands it.

1628
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Being executes it well and it's paid dividends over

1629
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 1: the course of Sean mcdermot's tenure. Here, all right, break

1630
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: time for us. We're back to close it up here

1631
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned. All right, here we

1632
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: are end of the week, Steve, and we will begin

1633
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: in earnest next week because when we are on the

1634
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: air Monday, Steve, the negotiating window we'll have been open

1635
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: for an hour free agency, friends time, our timeline on

1636
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: social media is gonna be spinning like a Yeah, like

1637
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: a slotman. Refresh, Refresh, Refresh. Did you see the latest

1638
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: Twitter or social media question that's dominating the universe right now?

1639
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: Are there more wheels or doors on the planet Earth?

1640
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: That is the big question? And why is that relevant?

1641
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think it's the question people

1642
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: want to throw out there and debate about. Do you

1643
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: have any old doors? Yeah? What do you think if

1644
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: you had to get There is no possible way I

1645
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: could care less about that? Yeah, I know, I know

1646
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: it's there's no possible. It is fascinating to think I

1647
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: could because you think about all the doors that could

1648
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: be being physically tortured right now and would and could

1649
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 1: not prefer would not care less about that. I don't

1650
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: know if I like that question more or less than

1651
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: whether a hot dog is a sandwich or something else.

1652
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: You know what, on this until Monday so we can

1653
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: talk about something else. I welcome that. We'll see on

1654
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 1: Monday at one