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<v Speaker 1>Her sun Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>an all new episode of Help I Suck At Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jared Haven not joined this week by Dean Ungler.

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<v Speaker 1>He's taken the week off probably golfing. I am joined

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<v Speaker 1>by the beautiful, the wonderful, the amazing, the sincere, the

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes smelly, my wife Ashley, I can Eddie. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Help I Suck At Dating? Thanks, babe. I

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<v Speaker 1>like being here. All right, So we want to continue

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation that we were just having. Our Our wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>producer Easton is on the line right now. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>know Easton, and he just saw a movie for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. No No, I'll tell the story that the

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<v Speaker 1>first no No he saw for the first time since

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<v Speaker 1>he was twelve. So last night he texted me he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching Titanic for the first time since I was twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just asked him how he how it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, that movie is an absolute masterpiece. It's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Five stars. Oh, it's so so good. You said that,

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<v Speaker 1>you cried? I did. I did you know what that

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<v Speaker 1>that first? So I was thinking about it. The Titanic

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<v Speaker 1>video was two tapes. Everybody knows that the two of

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<v Speaker 1>HS tapes, and I was reading that you can figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what kind of a person it is if they're

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<v Speaker 1>a tape one or a tape to persons. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>question is when does Tape one end and where does

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<v Speaker 1>Tape to begin. I think Tape two begins like just

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<v Speaker 1>after they hit the iceberg. Yeah, exactly, Yes, the tape

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<v Speaker 1>one ends right when the boat architect is like looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the blueprints and saying, we have an hour until

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<v Speaker 1>the ship sings. That's where Tape one ends. But that

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Andrews that first half of the movie, when they're

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<v Speaker 1>like courting, that gave me the same emotions from like

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<v Speaker 1>when you first start dating somebody and you're just like

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to be in love, and like I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was falling in love like with Jack at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. That's amazing. There is this chemistry between

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<v Speaker 1>Kaywin's and Leonardo DiCaprio that is hard to replicate. Those two.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everybody wants them to be together. They're best

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<v Speaker 1>friends in real life, and obviously they're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>together because Leo is dating year old now. But the

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry on screen between those two top notch. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that movie is a chick flick Eastern No, I

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<v Speaker 1>do not. I do not, because there's so much even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not interested in the romance aspect, which how

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<v Speaker 1>could you not be? But if you're not, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much cool, Like I mean, James Cameron like filmed the

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<v Speaker 1>real Titanic for that movie, Like it's like insane, how

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<v Speaker 1>much uh like movie making feats he he achieved. There's

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<v Speaker 1>enough like ship sinking, special effects like that second part

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie where the ship's just cracking in half,

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<v Speaker 1>like that just kicks ass. And it's still still looks

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<v Speaker 1>so realistic. Today it's really unreal. It's insane. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>belieme like this was. I can't believe it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a real ship is sinking. It's crazy. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest question I have for you Easton is was there

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<v Speaker 1>enough room on that door? Don't be a cliche to

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<v Speaker 1>stay aflow and not have to die? And James Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>has addressed this. He said that if the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them were on that door together, the water level would

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<v Speaker 1>be too high and they would have both died. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that. There's an article that came out with

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<v Speaker 1>what ten years ago, where it showed all the different

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<v Speaker 1>configurations where it could have worked. All I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>see was he tries to climb on and it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to sink. That's all I need to see that It's

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<v Speaker 1>not about space, it's about weight. Yeah. I couldn't handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Easton and Gabe. I'm disappointed in your cliche there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I really did it for the audience. I think

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<v Speaker 1>his conversation is more for us than it is them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me just say a couple of quick things.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister and I literally, like as a twelve year old,

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<v Speaker 1>we would watch it and then we'd look at each

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<v Speaker 1>other and we were like still embarrassed to say that

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<v Speaker 1>we had a crush, but we would be like, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna rewind it, and why watch it again? Like

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<v Speaker 1>we would sometimes watch it twice in one day. But

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<v Speaker 1>then oddly when it came out into theaters. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when it came back to theaters, I blead it was

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<v Speaker 1>because it was the anniversary of the sinking. We went

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<v Speaker 1>to go see it, of course in theaters, and we

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<v Speaker 1>cried for the first time ever, the first time ever,

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<v Speaker 1>were crying the first time I ever cried while watching

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic was in the theater because Lorne and I had

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<v Speaker 1>never seen it in the theater because we were too young.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents wanted to, you know, skip over the booby

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<v Speaker 1>scene and skip over the car scene. You didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic in the theater when I was twelve, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was eleven or twelve. Well, I wasn't even eleven or

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<v Speaker 1>twelve when it came out, because it came out December,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wasn't even ten yet. Were nine? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>do not mean to be boring, but it was just

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy the effect that it has when you're just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in a theater for three hours straight and you're

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<v Speaker 1>only focused on the movie, And how much more of

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<v Speaker 1>a powerful experience that is. Well, I like. I like

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<v Speaker 1>when you can watch a movie as a kid and

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<v Speaker 1>have an appreciation for it and have a love for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you watch it as an adult and you

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<v Speaker 1>still love it as much, you just have a different

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<v Speaker 1>appreciation for it. I had this feeling this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell a lot about my character about the original

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<v Speaker 1>teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which I loved and obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>over as a child. As a child and then I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up and watched it as an adult, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many adult themes and emotion and character developments in

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<v Speaker 1>that movie that took me literally, Like watching the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was stepping back because it really

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<v Speaker 1>took me back, the fact that there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>good in this movie that I could appreciate as an

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<v Speaker 1>adult and not have to watch it back and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, I can't believe, like I was so obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with this as a kid. Yeah, but you saying that

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<v Speaker 1>story makes it sound as if I haven't watched Titanic

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic at least yearly since I was at age, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do watch it at least once a year. You

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<v Speaker 1>said that the first time you cried, no, Jerry, The

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<v Speaker 1>first time I cried during it was when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>in theater an adult, and I was an adult in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and ten and two thousand eleven and two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine and all theater. That was my point. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the point of the story. It was not saying

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult, I still watch it at least every year.

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<v Speaker 1>I try not to burn it out because every time

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<v Speaker 1>I watch it, I want to feel all the nostalgia

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<v Speaker 1>I want in my body to feel all those little

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<v Speaker 1>senses that I did when I first saw it. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for both of you, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the movie that you cried most while watching? However, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie that you just Niagara Falls? For me, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a Start War was Born. My Sister's Keeper. Becky says,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, my sister's keeper. I also couldn't breathe

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<v Speaker 1>in the theater for that one too. With Cameron Diaz. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw it. You got one, I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>Riley saying the Notebook. I mean, I definitely couldn't breathe

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<v Speaker 1>in the theater there too, But like I think my most, like,

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<v Speaker 1>holy crap, I think I might have to leave the

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<v Speaker 1>movie theater was probably a Star Wars Born. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Jared saw it. Oh my god. It's a spoiler alert.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously Bradley Cooper dies in the movie. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the end when Lady Ga got singing the song and

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<v Speaker 1>it transitions to Bradley Cooper at at the piano finishing

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<v Speaker 1>the song after his death. Oh and then it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes to black and it's dead silent in the theater,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just heard next to me. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>that like, and then she just like I was like, good, God,

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<v Speaker 1>is she choking? Eastan? What about you? Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that you just like? Not Avengers End Game

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<v Speaker 1>can't count that. I sincerely think the movie in my

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<v Speaker 1>life I've cried the most was Captain America, the first

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<v Speaker 1>Avenger one to show why did you cry? Because so

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<v Speaker 1>I cry? I watched this movie often and I cry

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<v Speaker 1>every time. But I cry when Steve Rogers says I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from, and

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<v Speaker 1>like seeing how good of a man he is. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I also cry. There's a bunch different parts on

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<v Speaker 1>the movie that I cry, but then out of sadness

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<v Speaker 1>when spoiler alert at the end he has to crash

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<v Speaker 1>the ship because it's gonna blow up New York whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He's telling Peggy Carter that how much he loves her

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and like knowing that they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be together, Mark, do you have a movie that you

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<v Speaker 1>just on a bashly cry during? And at the Eastern's point,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like guys crying different kinds of movies than

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<v Speaker 1>women cry for different reasons anyway, like when I go

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<v Speaker 1>and see you know the Notebook or beaches or one

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<v Speaker 1>of these that make and did not do it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I see how they're trying to manipulate me into crying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just I'm cynical. Field of dreams. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>I watch when he's like, Dad, you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a catch? Oh my god, just stabbed. That's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also know what's coming, so like an hour

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<v Speaker 1>before it happens, I'm already cried because I already know

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we're going, that one. And it's a wonderful life.

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<v Speaker 1>Always maybe cry It's a wonderful life. Babe. When was

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<v Speaker 1>the last time you cried during that? I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of the movie that I cried most, because

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with Mark. I think girls cried during romantic comedies,

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<v Speaker 1>like Riley said the Notebook, Becky said, my Sister's Keepers. Whatever, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I digress, But guys, they cry for different reasons. What

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<v Speaker 1>I cry about, I mean animals, anytime there's an animal

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<v Speaker 1>that dies in the movie. I've done dogs, promise or

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<v Speaker 1>dog and like just I mean, I didn't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do anything for two weeks afterwards. And then secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>homeward Bound when chance know when chance is like down

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<v Speaker 1>and caught. I don't know if you guys remember his

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<v Speaker 1>leg is calling or something and he's like telling them

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<v Speaker 1>to leave him behind. I'm like, oh my god, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't take it anymore. My sister and we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to watch her around a couple of years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>we put it on. The first five minutes, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to turn to us. I mean this, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to turn it off. I cannot handle it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but wait, can we backtrack for a second to I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but you were just wait, you

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<v Speaker 1>were just saying, um, oh, Marley and Me when my

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<v Speaker 1>sister and I watched Marley and Me when like years

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<v Speaker 1>after it came out, and I guess it ended at

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<v Speaker 1>like one am. We're just as we started it late.

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<v Speaker 1>We were young inns and we had to call my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to FaceTime my dad and have him FaceTime

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<v Speaker 1>our dog. At the time, We're like, no, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to see Lucy now. God. Just heart wrenching. I love

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<v Speaker 1>how Ashley, how much of Ashley I is in this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we talked about Titanic and crying for the first

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, I was fantastic. This is what the people

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear you know. Um, all right, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>do have to get to some headlines. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>a great guest. We have Joe Piazza who's coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the host of two podcasts. She's a very

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<v Speaker 1>busy woman. Uh, one called Committed, another one called Under

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<v Speaker 1>the Influence, and she writes tons of books. She wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book called How to Be Married, which is now

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<v Speaker 1>available on Amazon. I guess you and I should read that. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>how to be Married? I don't know, we do a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good job of it. Knock on wood. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>our question should be like, hey, everything's been like super easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a red flag? Is that going to be

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<v Speaker 1>really hard? When something is not easy? Does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>that we should be really scared for the Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>something we should obviously obviously ask her, and she's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in just a few minutes now. We did have

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<v Speaker 1>some news within Bachelor Nation. Uh. Matt James, the former

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor uh, says he's pursuing a relationship with his ex

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel kirk Connell. Quote. I'm focusing on it. So People

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<v Speaker 1>magazine caught up with Matt. Uh. He was doing something,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, some promotion and he said, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel a handful of times. I'm not pursuing any relationships

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Outside of that, I said, I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on a relationship with her, and that means

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on it. And then obviously he was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel doing the work educating herself on racism, and he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you could talk to her about. The former

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor said, a lot of what I'm focused on right

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<v Speaker 1>now is the work that I'm doing in the community

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<v Speaker 1>and with the training for marathon. He's also obviously running

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<v Speaker 1>a marathon soon. That's pretty awesome. He said. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>chance he'll be in Paradise and no chance Tyler Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>will be in Paradise as well. Uh my initial thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this, I want preface this with saying, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's a really good guy. I like Matt a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you smiling? You know I had a man

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<v Speaker 1>of crush on Matt. I know, I know. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>is so sweet. Every time he's about to say something

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<v Speaker 1>like critical, he has to start by saying, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this person. This person is so great. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, Matt said after the final rose that

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't be with Rachel because she needed to educate

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<v Speaker 1>herself on uh, you know what she did wrong, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>with the Antebellum Party back in two thousand eighteen. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And that it was a journey ahead of her. He

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be a part of um, that she needed to

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<v Speaker 1>do this by herself, and um, that was the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why they broke up and why they couldn't pursue a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship anymore. And he said, he you know that she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand you know what it's like to be sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, obviously we know, we know this story.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm glad you cut me off because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I speak too much. Uh. My question is what's changed?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Because he was asking this and he completely

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<v Speaker 1>just avoided the question, saying, that's something you have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask her. Well, honestly, Matt, no, this is a question

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<v Speaker 1>we have to ask you because you're the one who

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<v Speaker 1>said you couldn't pursue a relationship with her because she

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<v Speaker 1>had to go on this journey on her own. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said that he didn't want to be emotionally responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for her tears. It was something I'm paraphrasing, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. And you know, I'm not criticizing that,

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<v Speaker 1>but my I guess I'm criticizing his response to People

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<v Speaker 1>Magazine when saying, well, that's something you'll have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>about her, her her journey. It's like, well, Matt, you

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<v Speaker 1>need you know if you're hanging out with her, she's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously clearly still in love with you. I would hope

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not pursuing any relationship with somebody else. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also didn't say that they were committed. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little confusing because there's such a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's so much background between the two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They were obviously in love, they left together, then there

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<v Speaker 1>was all these things that came out about Rachel after

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Um, so I would like to know what

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<v Speaker 1>has changed in you know, in the two to three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks after after the after the Final Rose. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me preface this again, master at it with from

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<v Speaker 1>all the times that I've met Matt, really enjoy him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like him and dating Rachel now so soon

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<v Speaker 1>after he he seemed very definitive on after the Final Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of makes it seem like his behavior and after

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<v Speaker 1>the Final Rose was phony or for for looks because

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<v Speaker 1>he obviously wasn't. He didn't not want to be with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and he certainly seemed on after the final rows like

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<v Speaker 1>he did not want to be with her, and every

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying, remember after the after that episode, people

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<v Speaker 1>like there's no chance, zero chance they're ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>be together. But but like there obviously wasn't. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there was something very much still in his heart

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<v Speaker 1>and something in that moment in his mind that thought like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh maybe I do want to be with her soon

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<v Speaker 1>rather than later. Yeah, And this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>can certainly not relate to. But you know, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a time where I was very confused about my feelings

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<v Speaker 1>towards Ashley, and I was vocalizing that I was definitive

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<v Speaker 1>and that it was it wasn't gonna happen, and you

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<v Speaker 1>were you and I were just going to be friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was truly lying to myself, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>lying to you and everybody else because I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>I was more confused than what I was leading on.

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<v Speaker 1>Very similar and I'm curious, well so sorry, not similar

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's not so much their situation is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot different. But I'm saying this is the closest thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I can really make an analogy to, UM is

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm curious if Matt was more confused and he

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<v Speaker 1>was leading on and uh and maybe he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>now he's trying to figure out maybe I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to be with Rachel. So that's all my thoughts about

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<v Speaker 1>it right now. UM. I just hope they're happy. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope they're doing well. Uh. Moving on. There's also an

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<v Speaker 1>article written on US Weekly from a neuroscientist, Dr Kristen

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<v Speaker 1>Willemer Ways a Ways in Chris Kristen Willemier weighs in

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<v Speaker 1>on why bachelorettes are more successful than bachelor's which we

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<v Speaker 1>have talked about. Uh. She said that women are primed

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<v Speaker 1>when we're young. We believe in fairy tales, we watch

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<v Speaker 1>the Hallmark Channel, the romantic movies, ak Titanic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're already thinking about our wedding at a young age.

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<v Speaker 1>She said. Uh. So, I think the bachelorettes come on

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<v Speaker 1>with a very clear purpose and intent. And because there's

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<v Speaker 1>an extensive screening process that goes on to even being

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<v Speaker 1>selected for the show, the men that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>select for the women should be a really good match

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<v Speaker 1>and should be to, you know, make that commitment, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course we know not everybody can do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least we're seeing that commitment happened more on The Bachelorrette. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I tend to agree. You're a female. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you wait on this. I just feel like the girls

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<v Speaker 1>are definitely more ready for marriage. They they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be less distracted by the men that come after them

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<v Speaker 1>after the show than the men. Maybe I think the

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<v Speaker 1>men are going to really like love the fame and

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<v Speaker 1>the girls that come with it. You know, they get

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<v Speaker 1>their little taste of like Beatlemania, right, They're like a

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<v Speaker 1>little pop star for a second and Beatlemania. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>why who's Paul? Who's John? I don't know? Okay, unpopular opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not the biggest Beatles fan. You're not the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest Beatles fan. Now, I was thinking about that this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, it's not that it's a I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it, but it's it's it's um every time

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<v Speaker 1>they came up in the nineties sixties when rock and

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<v Speaker 1>roll was just like they invent it. But no, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I appreciate them. But like I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy listening to them. What about Across the Universe. You

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<v Speaker 1>ever see that movie? I like the remix of their

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<v Speaker 1>music more great. Yeah, it's easier to my ears. Anytime

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Jim Sturgis sings, It's easy on the ears. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Bird loves men, big Jim Sturgist, guy, I just have

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<v Speaker 1>I I have man crushes. You know what. There's guys

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast right now, Eastan and Mark. I think

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<v Speaker 1>can understand where I'm coming from. There's nothing wrong. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a very secure in who I am. I just haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gotten crushes. I want to be like these guys. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand Jared because I definitely spend more time on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram owing over girls than I would a guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie. A lot of my search feed is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with Henry Cavill. Oh my god, you guys do

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<v Speaker 1>I need don't worry. No, It's just like on second

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<v Speaker 1>of my life where I was a little worried, and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. I get it. Yeah, you get why I

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<v Speaker 1>was worried, just because I'm very secure in myself. So

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<v Speaker 1>I joke around a lot as well. Um, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a buddy of mine. His name is Chad and

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<v Speaker 1>should be really talking about this. Yeah, I quick talking

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<v Speaker 1>story before before Joe comes on. We're like completely going

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<v Speaker 1>in different direction. But one of my good friends, Chad, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we joke all the time, like anytime I see him, like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you look great, you look real weird, Like they flirt

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<v Speaker 1>with each other on the phone, but now I flirt

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<v Speaker 1>with him like intentionally in front of ash break me out. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so before Jared and I were together, we were driving

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<v Speaker 1>around Rhode Island because I would come and hang out sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like obviously wow, mixed signals, um. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was one time talking about Chad and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's good looking, he's smart, he has a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>he's great in bed. And I was like, what in

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<v Speaker 1>the actual hell did you just say? And I swear

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<v Speaker 1>to you, I don't even think he was kidding. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he really said that, just assuming that somebody had

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<v Speaker 1>that much of a man crush on was good in bed. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was definitely intentional, but maybe it was a for

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<v Speaker 1>what is it slip? Should I be worried again? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. Maybe I'm gonna bring this up to

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<v Speaker 1>our yes, like do you I need to worry? About

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.920
<v Speaker 1>too many man crushes, not at all, I think. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on, like we said, we have Joe Piazza, who

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<v Speaker 1>is coming on the podcast very shortly, host of the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Committed, host of Under the Influence, and author of

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<v Speaker 1>the book How to Be Married. But before we talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe, we're gonna take a quick break. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to help I suck at dating. Jared here, Ashley here. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a great guest. She is currently on the

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<v Speaker 1>line right now. Hosts of the podcast of Committed and

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<v Speaker 1>Under the Influence, also the author of How to Be Married,

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<v Speaker 1>which she is available on Amazon. It is Joe Piazza. Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on. Hey, guys, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. Of course Joe how to be Married. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're married. We have sometimes we ask our marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say it's too easy, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the right phrase, but but maybe, but it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of easy. And is that a bread flag? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a good or bad thing? No? I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. Look, like all there's all of these myths

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<v Speaker 1>out there that like, marriage is supposed to be terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>and marriage is supposed to be hard work, and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>after the wedding. We never hear about an actual marriage

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<v Speaker 1>until someone gets divorced. So I think the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>your marriage is good means you guys are probably great

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<v Speaker 1>friends and you have your own separate lives and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kinda wonderful jip kids, Yet, yeah, is that going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the moment? Oh yeah, that's going to ruin everything? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we thought so then I look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>So I wrote How to Be Married in our first

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<v Speaker 1>year of marriage. I was a travel editor at Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 1>We traveled around the world interviewing couples about how to

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<v Speaker 1>make a marriage work right. We didn't have kids yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and read that book recently, and we

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<v Speaker 1>now have a four year old at a two year old,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, who were those happy people who like

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<v Speaker 1>that couple? Seems amazing to me. Having having kids makes

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it like so much better, and also just you're just

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<v Speaker 1>tired and just tired, which is why like it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it harder. We've been We've been saying like, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do the first kid, like, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think our relationship is going to change a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>because looking at friends, it seems like it's the second

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<v Speaker 1>kid that really changes things. True or false? False. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the first kid, you're just you're freaked out.

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<v Speaker 1>And for women, it's a complete identity change, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think there should be another word for it, almost

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<v Speaker 1>like puberty. Like in no other time in your life

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<v Speaker 1>do you become a completely different person than puberty and

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<v Speaker 1>when you become a mom, So it's tough. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the second one was hard, but white easier because I've

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<v Speaker 1>already gone through that. So like I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>know how to have a kid. This is just another kid. See,

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<v Speaker 1>like we feel like we could like tote the one

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<v Speaker 1>baby around. We can still get to dinner a kid

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<v Speaker 1>around left right with us. But then like the second one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a whole or deal when you travel or

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<v Speaker 1>like honestly go to the grocery store with them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've just got they've got so much stuff. One kid

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<v Speaker 1>is like a dozen kids. I think they just just

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<v Speaker 1>come with come with a lot of crap, guys, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of baggage. What change what changed in you the most?

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you think changes the most as a woman

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>when you know, becoming a mom, Well, people to start

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to the kid instead of you, Right, it's

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>like super annoying, right, like your identity. My identity used

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 1>to be like author Joe Piazza, podcaster Joe Piazza, that

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>bitchy girl down the street, Joe Piazza. And then it

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>was like mom, mom, mom, um, just like that loss

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of your identity, the loss of the loss of your

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>personal time, the fact that someone something is where, someone

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 1>is touching you all of the time, like constantly attached

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>to your body. Your body is no longer your own. Um.

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>And I said, oh, this is with great love. I

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>really love my kids. They're delightful, but I think the

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<v Speaker 1>early days, and especially because you're not sleep thing as

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a husband to a woman who will carry a child

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>at some point, I just have to say, I want

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.199
<v Speaker 1>to write a whole book for like what dad should do,

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>like proactively be as helpful as you can, take the

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.959
<v Speaker 1>baby away without being asked. Don't you should never have

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to be asked to do anything, clean up without having

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to be asked. Like the less that a new mother

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>can do, the better it is going to be for her.

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel so bad for other like for my friends

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>whose husbands aren't as helpful in general, because Jared is

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>always taking care of the dog. He's obsessed with taking

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>care of the dog in the in the way that like,

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't like you when my mom feeds and takes

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the dog out for a walk, because he says that

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that is he wants to take care of her. That's

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 1>just baby he wants to do. He wants to do

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that nurturing. He cleans up after dinner, he straightens everything.

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like so helpful. Whenever we're at my parents, You're

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you're extremely helpful as well. I don't know about that,

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.479
<v Speaker 1>but but my mom is always like Jared's so helpful,

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm always telling my friends, I'm like, you

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>know what, I think I'm going to be really lucky

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>when this baby comes because I think he might do

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 1>half the workouts. I'm also not the one who's being

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.880
<v Speaker 1>pregnant for nine months, so there's like some pros and cons,

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeh, but but I'm not worried about that

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>with you. It's really nice. Well, I very much appreciate that.

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>So Joe, like we said, you host a podcast called Committed,

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 1>which you dive into a lot of inspiring stories. Some

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>are funny, some are heartbreaking, but it's all about relationships

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>in marriage. And what are some of the stories that

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you have heard that have made the most impact on you?

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>So many of them. So we started doing committed. After

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I wrote How to Be Married, I started talking to

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 1>the podcast company and like the best part of writing

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>that book were other people's stories, like just listening to

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 1>how other people are married and how they do this.

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And the first couple that we interviewed, they had been

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>blown up together in the Boston Marathon bombing. Literally they

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>were running the marathon and they were both blown up.

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>They both lost the use of their legs and they

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>had to heal and figure out how and they hadn't

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>been married that long either. They were young, a little

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>bit younger than me. So tragic, but they were also

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they were just so inspiring because kind of like having

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>a baby, like you just your life completely changes, You

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>become a different person. You're dependent on the other person.

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>And just how they got each other through that tragedy

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>was with compassion but also with humor. That episode is funny.

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>You laugh out loud at that episode because like they

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>keep each other alive essentially by making jokes and by

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>making each other laugh, and it just reminds you of

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>the importance that like life is very short and anything

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:48.959
<v Speaker 1>can happen at any moment. These two kids did not

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>think they were going to go run a marathon and

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.479
<v Speaker 1>then lose their legs. But they were just so kind

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and compassionate and funny and sweet that it was my

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 1>first episodes. It always sticks with me, right, um, but

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it was so good. And then also that first season

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>we've done six seasons now, which is crazy, we interviewed

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>the astronaut Chris Hadfield um and his wife and about

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>how his wife got him to outer space, like he

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>never would have been able to go to outer space

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>had his wife not supported him and like done all

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>of the essentially all of the legwork, like everything else

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>in life, except for like he just got to go

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>to outer space because everything was taken care of. And

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 1>then when he got to go to outer space, she's like, okay,

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>my turn, my turn to do, like you will support

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>me to do whatever I want to do. And she

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>then became a chef and a caterer and started her

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>own business in her own life. But it was just

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 1>it was so interesting to think about taking turns in

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a marriage, who supports who and who does what? And

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>um letting everyone pursue their passions, but maybe at different times.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Ashley got me into outer space. You

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>helped me to get into outer space, but but my

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>outer because like I am a huge movie buff. So

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the idea because of our are like the notoriety that

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>we gain from the show, we'd be we'd have been

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 1>able to go to movie premieres. So like I've been

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>to Batman v. Superman and Star Wars and Bad Boys

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>for Life and all these incredible movie premieres, and we've

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>gotten to meet some of our favorite celebrities. Um from

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 1>these experiences, experiences I never thought I would ever have.

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>The only reason I have had them is because of Astley,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 1>So you've gotten me. He's always like, that's crazy, that's

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the week that can't happen. And how many times have

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like as he said that, and then it actually happens,

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Like Jared, come on, you just have to believe. I'm

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>definitely a power of positive thinking person. What I wanted

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about is something that I've been

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been asking some of our couple's friends lately. I

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like our generation, and I say ours, I mean

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the millennial generation is going to have a more successful

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>marriage rate than the previous ones because we're getting married

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>later and um, we're having kids later, and more of

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>us are probably college educated. I know they say it's

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty five plus in college educated usually jumps up the

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>statistics of a healthy marriage. And I feel like now

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that I don't know what the average ages, but I'm

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>saying it's definitely closer to thirty than it is probably.

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you think about us having healthier,

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>longer marriages. Like what I discovered from couples all over

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the world, but particularly actually in France and in Northern Europe,

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>was that the later you get married, the more successful

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to marriage. And it's because you're a fully freaking formed

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.959
<v Speaker 1>human being already, right, Like you've done all of the stuff.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you're not only so dr wild, Oh it's

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>but you've just like figured out all of your baggage

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and your crap, and so you come to the marriage

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>knowing exactly what you want. I'm at my husband when

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I was thirty five. Um, we met on a boat

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in the Galapagos. It sounds fake, it's totally real. I

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>read a little bit of the notes on that that's insane.

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Um, and he was up were old.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was forty one or forty two when

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>we met, and super super Well, it's like, I just

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I take every chance I can to call him super old,

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>so much older than me. He just turned forty seven

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>this week, and I was like, oh my gosh, like

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get your peak hard. But he and dated

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody in San Francisco, I didn't everybody in New York. Like,

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>we knew exactly what we wanted and then got engaged

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in three months and married nine months later, and we're

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>super happy. He's my best friend, despite the fact you

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>know that we our kids make us miserable. We we

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>got engaged three months after getting together too, but we

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>also knew each other for three years before we started hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think one of the I would imagine one

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons or one of the things that leads

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>to a successful marriage is making sure that you married

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the right person. Because obviously, once you're married, and it's

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>about communication and supporting one another and love and prioritizing

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>and and all of these things that we could talk about.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like one of the things that everybody

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>overlooks is you have to make sure that you're marrying

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the right person and that will lead to a successful marriage.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>So how do you know that you're marrying the right person?

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>When do you know? It's like the only thing that

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm hippie dippy about. I think what you like know

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>when you know, Like I think there's like a smell.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I think like we have this animal kind of thing

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that tells us when this is the person that we

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like should be with for a long time. But I

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>also think like Nick and I asked each other. We

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>asked each other I think maybe a dozen questions every night,

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>for like every single night, like after we decided that

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to like get married, before we got engaged,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>we figured out everything before we got married, Like I

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>knew how he felt about debt, I knew how he

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>felt about kids, I knew how he felt about like sex.

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we asked each other all of the hard questions

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like mine and all of this stuff, and we were

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>really honest about whether or not the answers were good

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>for us. I have friends who asked their boyfriends are

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>like do you want kids? And the guy's like no,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and she's like it's okay, I'll change his mind. No

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>one ever changes their mind, like if about people telling

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you the truth and then they get married and then

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>she's like, I'm so disappointed he hasn't want kids, and

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>like he told you we didn't want kids, you just

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted the wedding. Well, and so I think you have

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to prioritize like what you want in life over just

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>having that wedding and that party. Yeah. I always think

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>about Genie May from the Real when when that topic

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>comes up, because she told her husband she's like, there's

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>no way I'm having kids, No way, no way, and

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>then they ended up ending their marriage. That was perfect otherwise,

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>that you know, wonderful relationship, but she just would not

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and he was so definitively wanting kids that they got divorced,

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and um she remarried. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Like listen,

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Like you have to listen when people talk, they're telling

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you who they are. It's interesting too, because everybody says

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you should marry your best friend. But one of the things,

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the ways that you become best friends with

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>someone is that you literally talk about everything and you

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>find out what your likes are and your dislikes, and

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>then you have like this you know, attraction to someone

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying physical or sexual, but like this

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>attraction to someone that like, you're always hanging out because

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys like have good chemistry, and I I feel

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people don't translate that logic into

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>a partner, you know, which is weird because I feel

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like some of my friends they talk like we'll talk

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>about anything and everything, but they're nervous to talk to

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>their significant other about in certain things. Maybe it's just

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>because like insecurities. I'm not gonna say who are on

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the point. What I'm saying is like, you know, like

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a best friend will talk to me about their insecurities

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>or or something that they feel insecure. Making this up

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of the podcast, I don't even know

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>who you could be referring to. My point being is

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like sometimes in a relationship, uh like, when

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody's dating someone, they won't like be fully transparent about

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>certain things because whether they are just doing it out

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.959
<v Speaker 1>of comfort or they are insecure about something. But with

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>their best friend, they feel so much more at ease

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>because there's less judgment or less expectations. And so I

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>wonder if people kind of change that mindset. I'm you know, little.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to just articulate my thoughts right now, so

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's coming out super clear, but

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like people should try to look for a

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>partner like they look for a best friend. Yeah, totally,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and the best friend that you just want to sleep with. Well, Jared,

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>your best friend that you want to have sex west,

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the ideal goal right there. Like let's just say, like,

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>who should you marry your best friend you want to

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 1>have sex? Totally on a person. I have a billy

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>go right next to me right now, Oh my god,

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I left him for five days, guys, and

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I came back and his hair his beard hair is

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>like a quarter of an inch long, and then like

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>his hair is greasy. But I love him anyway, and

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>he's still my best friend who I want to have

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>sex with. That's great, good news, Okay, but listen, um

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>there was Oh yeah. This is my greatest advice. Basically

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>for people who are thinking like is this the right

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>person or not, it should be somebody who you never

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>get tired of, Like Jared and I are fascinated by

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we could hang out all day long

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 1>and we are never tired. Of each other. That's never

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>happened with any other person besides my mom, dad, and

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>my sister. Yeah. I think to the most successful couples

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that I've talked to, they're just comfortable going back to

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the best friend and they're comfortable with each other. Whereas

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like in a lot of previous relationships, it's like constant

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>highs and lows, right, like ups and downs and roller

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>coasters and like expecting almost expecting there to be constant drama.

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think what you guys said earlier, like is

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it bad that it's easy? Like, no, it should like

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, it should be easy because life does

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>get hard. Like maybe it won't get hard between you guys,

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>but like life throws stuff on, like you know, we

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>lose parents, there's like financial problems. It's like it should

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>be really easy in the beginning, and if it's not,

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>you need to look at this and be like, then

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>how am I going to get through the hardship with

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>this person? Right? I think also just we have certain

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>expectations for marriage and love that are kind of unattainable,

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>not really, I just well, I disagree, what do you

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>mean how could we because we could you imagine like

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.479
<v Speaker 1>sure like our happy ending ended up being a happy ending,

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>thank god. But we were up and down and I

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>was telling you we were going to date, and we

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>were fighting, and then we would date other people and

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>we get jealous of each other, and it was like

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of good things at times. But I

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people would view that and say, well,

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously this isn't the person for me, because if it

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>was the person for me, then it would just be easier.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't necessarily agree with that logic. I think

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>some people they make excuses as to why they shouldn't

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>be with someone and forgetting that commitment is a choice

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes can be really difficult. Okay, that's true. Sorry,

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it's been so long, I forget about that chapter of

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>our lives. It was hard at times, it was really

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>hard at times. Since we've been together, it's been super easy.

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>But I love but I love what. I love what

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you just said about commitment as a choice, because so

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the very fancy French women that I interviewed in Paris

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>about love and relationships, that's what they said to me, Like,

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to make the choice every day. You can't

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>just say that I chose this person on my wedding

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 1>day or you know, the day we got engaged, and

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Like every day you should wake up and

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>be like, choose you again, and like I have a

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>reason for choosing you again. And also on the flip

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>side of that, I think that you want to be

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>chosen again, So still act like you're courting that person

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that you're still dating Everson. It's hard every day. I mean,

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like we're not going to do it every day. Life

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>is life is life, especially in COVID. But like to

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>have that mindset of like I choose you, I want

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you to choose me. I think it just makes you

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>put in a little bit more effort um and that's important.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I agree. So last question, Joe before you go. We're

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to have kids right now, what's your best advice

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for us? Oh my gosh, all right, So I do

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.399
<v Speaker 1>I need you to listen to my other podcast, under

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the Influence before you have the babies, because what it's

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 1>alluding to. No, it's under the influence of mom influencers.

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's all about mom influencers. On to gra out.

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you follow our friend Jade? No? Should I call you?

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>We have a season two? Should I call Jade. Yes,

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 1>she's so Jade Roper or Je Tolbert. Oh yeah, so

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>she's from Bachelor. She's a huge like she's the ultimate mom.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>She has three kids now, she's just like mother nature

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>in human form. You should totally not perfect. Let's let's

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>because we're also working on a documentary, So let's have

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.919
<v Speaker 1>Jade on season two of Under the Influence. Can happen

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to be great. But so my baby did not sleep.

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>So all I did with scroll Instagram because you only

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>have a thumb, because you've just got a baby here

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and you just have a thumb. And what else can

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you do with the film? Um? But what we can

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>we talk a lot about what it means to be

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a first time mother and how it changes your life

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and how it changes your identity, and so I think

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that would be really helpful. My other advice is to

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>everyone thinks about like planning all of the baby's space

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, Like I say, work on your relationship,

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like more the baby. A baby can sleep anyway, Like

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a baby doesn't need a compainted room, and like all

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of like stuff. Work on you guys. Take nine baby moves,

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Nick and I took We just want on vacation once

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a month until month nine. Once a month nine, baby,

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>take a bunch of classes together, go to the movies

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>because you never go to the movies right after you

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>have a baby. Make sure your relationship is so fun

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and wonderful before that baby comes out, because you are

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to do a lot of work for

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that baby. But don't worry about like setting up all

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the baby stuff. The baby doesn't care. Yeah, I agree,

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>depending on where we're living with that baby is born,

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's either going to get it's either going to

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>be living in our bedroom or to have its own room.

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to stress about it either way,

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>not until they know. And then I know that This

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is funny with Jared he um he so he just

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>moved to our island his home state, and like his Mecca,

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Like he really feels like this is like the greatest

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>place on earth, which is very sweet. But I'm like, Jared,

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to go in to vacation the I want

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to go here, like I have like the travel itch

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>right now because obviously we haven't gone anywhere, um, you know,

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>for for fun in a year. And he literally thinks

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that like we can just go to the restaurant on

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the ocean, and now that's a vacation. We leave. Everything

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>we need is right here. We we just moved back

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to Philadelphia, which I think is the greatest city of

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.479
<v Speaker 1>all time. And I'm just like like, perfect, no, take

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>take all of the trips. Go somewhere beachy. We went

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to Mexico City when I was pregnant with my second

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>one and ate all of the food and it was incredible.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>You're okay going there with the Zeka. Mexican City was fine.

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>They're at they're at a high elevation. There's not there's

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>not mosquitoes in Mexico. Said, interesting, yeah, totally safe. Also

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Bermuda was Zeka free. We did that one, and then

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>with the first one, we did Hawaii because that was

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>going to go to Hawaii soon. Definitely definitely did Hawaii.

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>We did. We went to Kauai and did the Nepali Hike.

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Um pregnant and it was just the best. We went

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>there on our relationship moon. It was like the week

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that we came out as a couple. We went to

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii and it was magical. It was it was a

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>great weekend. So that's where that's my best. We can

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>enjoy yourselves. Enjoy yourselves, and the happier you are, the

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>happier your baby's gonna be. Well, you enjoy yourself, Joe,

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>now that you're back in Philadelphia, home of the Eagles.

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Um so, Joe Piazza, thank you so much for joining

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>us again. Everybody listening, go check out her two podcasts,

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>one Committed, which is about relationships, and the other one

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Under the Influence, which is all about mommy bloggers. And

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of course order her book. It's on Amazon, How to

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Be Married. Joe, Thank you so much for joining us.

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys, this is great, welcome back to help

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating. That was a great interview with Joe.

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>She's so sweet. We do have an email. Anything else

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to add before the email? M I don't think so.

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I could just talk about movies all day, but you can.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I know he wants to talk about them. Who's your

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 1>favorite leading man of all time? So you're obviously is

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Leo from Titanic, specifically from Titanic, not from Departed or

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe from a titan from Titanic from Cashing If you can,

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, no no, you have to choose one Leo.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>You have to choose one Leo from a movie? Then, yes,

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Leo and Titanic really can't be beat. Now what about

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the party? He's so rough? No one needs to be

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>a romantic character for me. All right, who's your number two?

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Because Leo is an obvious one. Probably Shane Weston remember

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>not McConaughey and Wedding Planner No I'm from is pretty good,

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>but no, no, it's got to be it's gonna be

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>landing hard. What about Tom and Jerry McGuire. Oh, oh see,

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I got you all right? Maybe Tom and Jerry McGuire.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>He's right up there, Tom and jer I would say

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>he's right. I think my top three Shane west from

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>A Walk to Remember, Tom Cruise from Jeremy McGuire, and

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Leo from Titanic. Yeah, but also Patrick swayzey and Ghost

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and Dirty Dancing? Damn well, which one ghost our Dirty Dancing?

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>If I had to pick an overall movie, I would

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>pick The Ghost as an overall movie. No, no, no, no,

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I want no okay, who's all over? No? No no no,

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Swayze and Ghost he Wins and Ghosts? Yeah, alright?

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>What about Gosling from Notebook? Yeah? Yeah, good, but like

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it's so rated, you know what I mean, Like it's

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>not overrated, but it's rated, and it's like it's like duh, Well,

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, do you like Gosling from the beginning of

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>notebook where he's clean shaved, short hair, or do you

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>like him better in the lighter half he's got the beard.

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I like him in the beginning because it's not I

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>love like a personality that is like fun and now

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>going and sociable and like everybody loves to be around him,

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's glowing, Like I love that kind of person

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that attractive, like that Tom Cruise type of personality, Like

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I want my man to be wanted to be around.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 1>But I get that. But I like dark and Damage. Yeah,

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, but you are in dark. You're not dark

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and damage. You're the other guy you want to be. Well,

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I definitely am. I try to emulate my personality like

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Tom Cruis and Jerey McGuire to sid no doubt about

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>that one. All right. Mark is waiting patiently by as

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>we're just like giggling to ourselves to read this enjoining it.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely enjoying it, all right. This is from anonymous.

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>She says, I've been married about two years now without

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>going into details, we're both very content in our relationship

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and have a healthy and open, communicative marriage. I have

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a job that requires me to travel, sometimes from months

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>at a time. Most recently I was going for almost

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>four months. While my spouse and I do well at

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a distance, something happened this last trip that has never

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>happened before. Someone I was working with on the trip

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I found very attractive and there was noticeable chemistry between us,

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and even some co workers pointed out. Since returning from

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the trip, I haven't tried to keep in contact with

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the attractive friend because I noticed I've developed a slight

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>crush on them. At what point should I tell my

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>spouse about the crush part? If at all? What would

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you do? What would you do in a committed relationship

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.479
<v Speaker 1>when inevitably you meet other people that you're attracted to? Okay,

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I think this kind of goes back to what Joe

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>is saying that you choose your husband every day. Um,

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that you're like, you're being wrong, or

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing is rare, naughty, or anything like that.

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>By having a crush on somebody, I think you're being

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of honest with yourself. I just think you can't

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>act on it, and I do think that it will

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>slowly fade as you are not around this person. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>there's how many people on this earth? Oh? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like seven billion? Is it really how? I'm gonna

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>google this, but anyway, there's billions of people on this

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<v Speaker 1>earth right now, and the odds that you're attracted to

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>one other person than your husband is not that crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing wrong with that. Obviously, you're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing by not keeping in contact with this friend.

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>You're always going to have like a slight crush or

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>be like wow, that person is attractive, and then, like

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Ashley says, you don't act on it. You move on

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>be as you love your significant other. You're happy. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no point in your pursuing anything else. You would regret

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it if you did. You're in a committed relationship and

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you're fine. Forgive yourself. Don't feel guilty about it. Just

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>move on and let it go. I agree, Mark, What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about that you've been married the longest

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>eighteen years? Thank you very much? Actually coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>nine team anyway, Yeah, I agree with you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is these feelings happen and they go away, so

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<v Speaker 1>don't make too big a deal out of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you talk about it, which I mean some couples

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<v Speaker 1>with truth to talk about it, that's fine too. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to know your husband and how this is gonna land.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you talk about it becomes a bigger deal

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<v Speaker 1>than it actually is. It's just a fleeting thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>will fade as as quickly as it came on. And

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 1>that will be that. Yeah, and you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>freak him out if you say something. And yes, in

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the time, this is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>become anything. We're all animals, you know, alright. Population of

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the Earth, Yeah, you're pretty much spot on. Seven billion,

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:04.240
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and forty six million. Wow, there are eight

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 1>billion people on this earth. Holy crap. That's a lot

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of people, all right. So we just had the one

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>email this week. We are going to um get your

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:17.760
<v Speaker 1>listener feedback. I posted on Instagram yesterday about any advice

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 1>or tips you had for getting over a breakup. When

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Dean is back next week, we're gonna go over that.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we go, I do have a dating term

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to ask you about. So we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing this every week. I've we've been kind of slacking.

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 1>But we do this thing where I asked a data term.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've participated in this before. I ask you

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<v Speaker 1>what you think it is, and then I tell you

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>what it actually is. Ready, all right, seeing how you're

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<v Speaker 1>we've I feel like Friends has been sorry, she's always

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 1>telling me what to do. So why has Friends been

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a topic of conversation? Because they're doing the reunion? It

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>is finished filming the reunion, got it? Okay? So Friends

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.360
<v Speaker 1>has been in the news recently. So I have a

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<v Speaker 1>dating term and it is called rossing, named after the

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>character Ross on Friends. So what do you think the

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 1>dating term rossing could mean. It means that one person

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship thinks they're on a break and the other

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>person does not. Gotta be uh, I think that's gotta be. Yeah,

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 1>But I'll come up with something different, just to be uh,

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>just to make it interesting. I'll say it's um uh,

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>having a child with someone else doesn't work, owning a monkey,

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>your your ex, you know, ending up being attracted to

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the opposite sex. Yeah, loving dinosaurs, I don't know. It's

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.479
<v Speaker 1>got to be on a break thing. I mean, hey,

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.399
<v Speaker 1>well how about this. He's he's like a paleontologist or something. Right,

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.919
<v Speaker 1>it's when you're dating someone, they're always digging up old

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff from the past. That was very good. Rossing, of course,

0:48:55.600 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>is inspired by the the constant utter of we were

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<v Speaker 1>on a break. Legends have it that the only person

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<v Speaker 1>Ross took a break from was himself. So like him,

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<v Speaker 1>if you continue swiping right and meeting potential partners, but

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 1>your heart only aches for certain unavailable Rachel, then you

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 1>are rossing these dates stop wasting their time. Oh so

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a little different. Yeah, it's a little different. Different.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently they think that Ross took a break himself

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>because even though he was dating other people, he really

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.479
<v Speaker 1>was just pinding over Rachel, which was obviously the core

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>storyline of the show. So this is saying that people

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.919
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing. I will say this, I think

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I was rossing people before. I think we've all rost before. Yeah,

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at the other people while we're still hung up

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>on somebody's specific rosters. In this podcast tries to do that. So,

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, they think they can move on or make

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the other person jealous, and then well one or the

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>other usually happens. Have you rossed, Yes, I guess so, Yeah,

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to yea, yeah, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>rossed a little roster you anyway, that's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>For this week's episode of help by Suck At Dating,

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<v Speaker 1>a big thank you to Joe Piazza for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>She was fantastic. Thank you too, Anonymous for emailing us

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I'm curious if it's the same anonymous

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.359
<v Speaker 1>or if it's a different anonymous emailer every time. I'd

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 1>like to think it's different, but sometimes, you know, we

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>have those loyal fan bases. It's Nick. I think it's

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Nick every time. It is really is Nick. Nick. Just yeah,

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.240
<v Speaker 1>he gets his content from this podcast for his own podcast.

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced of it. He's been emailing anonymous for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, uh, thank you, Mark, thank you Easton,

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0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.760
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