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Speaker 1: Welcome to another addition of the Official Jets podcast, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Copeland in the House, Cope. Thanks for joining us. We're

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Speaker 1: in the play MGM Studios. You can follow us the

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Speaker 1: podcast New York Jets dot com, YouTube, Apple podcast, Google Play, SoundCloud,

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Speaker 1: rate us, review us, let us know. You can let

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Speaker 1: us know too if you want that. I'm in the

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Speaker 1: presence of two professors here e A and why you

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Speaker 1: professor in the off season, and then in the far

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Speaker 1: chier over there Brandon Copeland teaching financial literacy. This has

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Speaker 1: been well documented, and I'm sorry if you're sick of

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Speaker 1: talking about it, but what was like the moment that

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Speaker 1: you said, Okay, this is a problem and I need

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Speaker 1: to tell people before they enter the real world. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you see it, especially being in the locker room, you know,

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Speaker 1: you you see it all the time in the sen

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Speaker 1: of people making good decisions and people making bad decisions.

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Speaker 1: I think that the narrative and uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: the story that people highlight are the bad decisions. Of course,

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Speaker 1: that's what gets ratings, that's what gets crazy comments, all

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Speaker 1: that type of stuff. But even with that being said,

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Speaker 1: I also realized that you know, I am I would

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Speaker 1: say and hopefully people don't take us the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm a well educated young man. Um. However,

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Speaker 1: I was approaching some major life decisions and I had

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Speaker 1: no idea what I was doing. So when I'm buying

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Speaker 1: my first house and you know, the realtors and are

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Speaker 1: sitting there like, this is probably one of the most

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Speaker 1: important decisions I'm making in my life. And I'm literally

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Speaker 1: just kind of just nod in my head with the

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Speaker 1: realtor or just saying, hey, what's that and learned on

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Speaker 1: the fly, And I'm like, this is backwards, right, Like

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Speaker 1: we sat in these classrooms for years and I've learned,

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Speaker 1: you know, the tangent of a forty five degree angle

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, stuff that I'm personally I'm just

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Speaker 1: not using, right And if i need to use it,

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Speaker 1: I'll google it. Um. But these things like my credit

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Speaker 1: and these things like budgeting and how to write a check,

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Speaker 1: um investing, right, Uh, these things that are just a

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Speaker 1: part and can potentially be a part of everyone's life

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Speaker 1: and potentially every day. You know, we're not talking about it.

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Speaker 1: So I've been like, let's you know, let's start a class,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Um. I figured going back to

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Speaker 1: pen would be great because that's my alma mater and

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Speaker 1: you're the first IVY League guest on the podcast the

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Speaker 1: history that's right in the studios. But yeah, I figured

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Speaker 1: going back would be uh one, great for me, coming

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Speaker 1: full circle and all of that type of stuff. But

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Speaker 1: then too, uh, you know, to be quite honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I knew that it would draw attention to the problem

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Speaker 1: in the sense of if I'm not an active NFL player,

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Speaker 1: I would tell the media when they come came to

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Speaker 1: the class and we had, you know, all these different

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Speaker 1: be here if I wasn't an active NFL player, right um.

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Speaker 1: And then now on top of that, this is at

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Speaker 1: a different school so to speak, right um. And so

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Speaker 1: to the problem. And now it's like, Okay, how do

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Speaker 1: we continue to work it and figure out how we

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Speaker 1: can do this on a mass scale, because I don't

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Speaker 1: took a great step last offseason. We just got to

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Speaker 1: prove to do it again. This congratulations. So who's taking

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Speaker 1: the college students. But I mean again, I also I

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Speaker 1: as they understand or will understand when we when they

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Speaker 1: walk into my classroom this year, um, right now, we'll

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Speaker 1: So it's undergraduate class. Yeah, undergrads right um. And again

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Speaker 1: you know we we wanted to originally open it up

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Speaker 1: they have to start walking through their life life plan,

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Speaker 1: And then also my students split up in the group's

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Speaker 1: we make that our students teach the high school students

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Speaker 1: and we did it for the first time last year.

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Speaker 1: Last year was our first time going to class. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And we like that when I say, like, the kids

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Speaker 1: to want to help others. But too knows where that

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Speaker 1: learned I went to pen today. You know, I've been

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Speaker 1: I just went there and had a whole conversation about investing. Mom,

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's so practical, and that's what I

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Speaker 1: teaching at Penn our life lessons that you're gonna continue

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Speaker 1: to draw back from throughout I mean until you're closing day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like personally, it's one of those classes that

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I'd like to know how to live my life.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad you mentioned your final exam because I

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Speaker 1: what you've told us, it seems like you want to

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Speaker 1: So we have a bunch of different and I will

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Speaker 1: reason exactly. We do have we have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: And then we also have practice at some of these

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Speaker 1: practical habits. So budgeting, So every student has to create

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Speaker 1: are involved in so many things off the field. What

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Speaker 1: about real estate, Well, what are you doing there and

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Speaker 1: I'm available, we'll go through it and we check everything out.

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Speaker 1: We develop a budget based off of that, and then

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Speaker 1: we make a decision whether to buy or not. Once

430
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Speaker 1: we've made that decision. A lot of the times you

431
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Speaker 1: don't actually get even if you put in the offer.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times you don't actually win on that offer,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. So I've put in more offers than

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Speaker 1: I've actually hit on or one um. But you're keeping

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Speaker 1: yourself within that budget exactly exactly so. But White Michigan,

436
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Speaker 1: because you played it. It played with the lines to

437
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Speaker 1: start your career. Because I played with the lines, and

438
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Speaker 1: I thought, originally to learn it would be good to

439
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Speaker 1: be able to drop in on the properties and and

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Speaker 1: see it. Now when I started, about a month into

441
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Speaker 1: me starting and buying my first house, war flip again,

442
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Speaker 1: I tore my peck and so I ended up moving

443
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Speaker 1: back to New Jersey and and learning how to do

444
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Speaker 1: a long distance, which ultimately ended up working better for me.

445
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Speaker 1: But what is the biggest misconception about professional athletes. Well,

446
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Speaker 1: let's let's be more specifically talking about NFL players from

447
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: the outside, because here you are and we haven't even

448
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Speaker 1: talked about all the stuff you do in the community.

449
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Speaker 1: We're just talking about beat Cope and its business ventures

450
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Speaker 1: and its educational Uh there's yeah, is his educational um

451
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Speaker 1: endeavors as well. But what's the biggest misconception out there

452
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Speaker 1: about NFL players? Yeah? I think the dumb jock misconception.

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Speaker 1: I think that I was actually having this conversation with

454
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Speaker 1: a teammate this week. Um, you know a lot of

455
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: a lot of people consider players athletes in general, but

456
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Speaker 1: players dumb jocks, so to speak, right, And not that

457
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: you think that they're completely stupid or anything like that,

458
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: but you just think that they're in there. They don't

459
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Speaker 1: they can't apply themselves to other things. Would people fail

460
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Speaker 1: to realize? Is one? The NFL is a very complicated business. Um, weekend,

461
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: week out, you're really preparing your mind, body, and soul

462
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Speaker 1: to go against a team, and then the next week

463
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Speaker 1: you literally flush it out and have to get rid

464
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Speaker 1: of it and learn a whole new playbook, whole new tendencies,

465
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Speaker 1: all that type of stuff for a new team. And

466
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Speaker 1: you have to keep doing that, right, So that takes

467
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Speaker 1: a certain mental capacity right there too. What another thing

468
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Speaker 1: that people fail to realize is like, just because I'm

469
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Speaker 1: applying myself to football, or let me say this in

470
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Speaker 1: a different way, I have the opportunity to make a

471
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Speaker 1: lot of money and change a life, changing the amount

472
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Speaker 1: of money right here, right now, with football, I'm all in,

473
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: and I'm applying myself to this mentally, right because I

474
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: just because I don't apply myself to math class or whatever.

475
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy trying to distract or detract from education.

476
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Speaker 1: But years ago I spoke to the rookies in Detroit,

477
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Speaker 1: and I was speaking with a Stanford grad Johnson bad Mosy.

478
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Speaker 1: He's playing with the Miami Dolphins now. And one of

479
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Speaker 1: the things I was talking about to the rookies is, hey,

480
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Speaker 1: you know, you never know when your last players. You

481
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Speaker 1: have to be prepared, gotta out of all this stuff. Johnson,

482
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Speaker 1: on the other hand, was talking about the same thing.

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Speaker 1: But then he also said, but keep in mind this,

484
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Speaker 1: how many people from your school would kill to come

485
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Speaker 1: out of college making half a million dollars. Right So

486
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: with that being said, you need to make sure you

487
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Speaker 1: take full advantage of this opportunity and go all in.

488
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: So again I use that example to say, we have

489
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Speaker 1: this opportunity, and people just think that, oh, these guys

490
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Speaker 1: aren't you know, they're not thinking about politics and all

491
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Speaker 1: that type of stuff. Well, I have this opportunity that

492
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Speaker 1: a lot of people would kill for. I'm all into this.

493
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm becoming a specialist in this. I am the Jason

494
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Speaker 1: Stadium transporter that you know, the Tom Cruise, you know. Um,

495
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Speaker 1: And so that's that's one of the things that I

496
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Speaker 1: think that you know, a lot of people should just

497
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Speaker 1: kind of understand. But they also I don't think people

498
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Speaker 1: realize that you guys are actually human beings too. So

499
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: you finish your day at work, you can go home,

500
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: you can have dinner. You you have real life life problems.

501
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: The plumber is not working, maybe your wife had a

502
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: bad day. Maybe you want to watch a movie. Maybe

503
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: it's time to laugh, Maybe the WiFi is not working.

504
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: I think there's this tendency because guys do make a

505
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Speaker 1: good living, that you guys are robots. And and the

506
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum, too, is that the careers

507
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 1: in the National Football League are less than four years

508
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: on average. You who are still a young dude, I

509
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: think your crew seasons, what five year it says. If

510
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: you look at Brandon Copeland says five NFL seasons, this

511
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: is your seventh year in the league. You are an

512
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: anomaly man. Most guys are not around after seven years.

513
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Speaker 1: That's just the truth. Yeah, no, it you literally day

514
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: by day and I think that, you know, um, one

515
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: of the things that I've thought about is like you

516
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: go through those bad times, and what I always try

517
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: to remember in those bad times, and you know, not

518
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Speaker 1: even bad times when I'm talking about it's like, you know,

519
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Speaker 1: practice squad um. My first year, my second year, I

520
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: was cutting after two weeks and just sat out the

521
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Speaker 1: whole year. And I always I kept training, kept working out,

522
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Speaker 1: and not always told myself this year, even though I'm

523
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: piste off right now, I'm not making any money, I'm

524
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: not doing anything right, this year will be the year

525
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: that helps propel me to year, seven, year, six year, ten, whatever. Right,

526
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Speaker 1: Because now when I'm going when I'm in the middle

527
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Speaker 1: of the season, when I'm going through the motions and

528
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: other guys are checking out, I'm dialing back in on

529
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: how bad I wanted it, how bad I just wanted

530
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Speaker 1: to be in the locker room, how bad I wanted

531
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Speaker 1: to be in the colts of how Bad. I wanted

532
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Speaker 1: to study for the New England Patriots, right and that time,

533
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Speaker 1: those hard times will be the things that push you

534
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: and care you want to keep you grounded in success,

535
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's what keeps me going. Brandon. I

536
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: think it's clear not only to us, but if you're

537
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: watching or listening to us, that you're well versed in

538
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You clearly have for lack of

539
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: better saying, a good hat above your shoulders, whatever it is.

540
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: But were you always like this, like we're always the

541
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Speaker 1: guy growing up that was well versed in X, Y

542
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: Z and looking for challenges or was there a moment

543
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: or to where you're like, I have to get better

544
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: at this because this is really post football and I

545
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: need to know these things for whenever my last play is,

546
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: whether that's on your terms or not, or whatever the

547
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: case may be. Yeah, No, great, great question. Um. I

548
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: think I've always thought differently in the sense of God

549
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: has blessed me with a different perspective on life. And

550
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Speaker 1: you know, certain things will happen to people and they

551
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: take it and they curl up right me, it's it's

552
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: an opportunity, It's okay, how do I work through this? Right? Um?

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00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: So that's that's first and foremost one thing that I

554
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: lean on. But then, yes, there have been certain instances

555
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Speaker 1: in my life that have changed my way of thought

556
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: completely or changed my fear mechanism that will allow me

557
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: to put myself out there and say, hey, I'm a

558
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: football player, but I'm about to try to be a professor,

559
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: right um, and and to speak to those things. You know,

560
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm actually working on the book right now. Here we

561
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: go breaking breaking news. We were working on it now,

562
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: but uh, and we'll talk about it in detail and there.

563
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: But you know, when I was in the eighth grade,

564
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: my grandmother passed away. And I remember, um just being

565
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: I was literally right up the street and she had diabetes,

566
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Speaker 1: so she would go in and out the hospital, and

567
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: I just thought it was just another routine time she's

568
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: in and out. She was in there for days, and

569
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: and my mom every down time we get off of school,

570
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Hey you wanna go check winner? You know? Oh no,

571
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: i'm good, I'll go see you tomorrow. Oh no, I'm good,

572
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: I'll go see you tomorrow. Just being a eighth grade kid,

573
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I just want to get home and play right. And

574
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: then finally one day she picks me up and and

575
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Speaker 1: just everything's quiet, and you know, I found out that

576
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: my grandmother went on life support. So now hell, let's

577
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: go right. Um, And I just remember my grandmother ended

578
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: up dying that night, that same day. Uh. And I

579
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: just remember again, there's definitely certain details in that story

580
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me about how much my grandmother

581
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: loved me and all of that type of stuff. Um.

582
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: But for me, I remember that moment on of just

583
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: saying like, that's literally the only regret I have in

584
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: my life. After that, I don't have any other regrets.

585
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: I'll take as many chances as possible. I'll make time

586
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: for whomever whatever I need to make time for. But

587
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think as an eighth grade kid that

588
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: put a different hustle and a different mindset is not

589
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: even just a business hustle. It's more of just like

590
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: a wheen. There's certain things that are important to you.

591
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Cherish them in the moment this NFL to see in

592
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the NFL cherish it in the moment. That's pretty impactful

593
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: for that obviously, your grand mother, Uh, you know, tremendous

594
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: um impact and a loving presence and a matriarch probably

595
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: of your family. I would have imagined, just like so

596
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: many grandmothers have been for many of us. Um, But

597
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: that that's stuck with you from that moment because you're

598
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: a young kid. And then saying, Okay, I gotta take

599
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: advantage of my time and I just can't push things

600
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: aside because I don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow exactly exactly.

601
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, tremendous lesson for me. It

602
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: literally has changed the trajectory of my life. And again

603
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: I can pinpoint it exactly. Um. But yeah, that stuff

604
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: like that. And then also you know, from a off

605
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: the field perspective, you know, uh, certain things like being

606
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: on practice squad, certain things like you know, being on

607
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: practice squad, and and you know that's another misconception about

608
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: the NFL is a lot of people just think this promised, right.

609
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, we all have signed we've all signed these

610
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: million dollar contracts. We're all living lavish lives and and

611
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: you're you're a rich man on the practice squad exactly.

612
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: And you know, secondly, I tell you I shared this

613
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: with people when I I was an undrafted free agent

614
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: at the university of Pennsylvania. When I came out, I

615
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: signed a three year, one point five million dollar contract.

616
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: I saw twenty thousand of those dollars before I was cut, right, Okay, right,

617
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: And if I never got picked up again, that would

618
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: have been to my name, right, So you know, it's

619
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: these things aren't guaranteed. So for me, it's also just

620
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: figuring out how I can make sure as a leader

621
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: of my family I can always provide for them regardless. Cope.

622
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: You bringing your passionate dude. You're intelligent, dude, you leave

623
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: it all on the field. Love watching you play football.

624
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask you about the suspension because

625
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: when you went in the locker room you were emotional

626
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: in terms of Okay, this is what happened, and this

627
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: is where I'm gonna go from here. So just briefly

628
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: I would ask what did you learn and all that,

629
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: and what would your message be to young dude in

630
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I mean I think that was it was.

631
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: It was very rough for me because I'm just trending

632
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: upwards and I still am in my mind in sacks

633
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: and and um, and it's just on and off the

634
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: field things are just going so right, right, My wife.

635
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: We we had our first child July eleven. Strangulations. Thank

636
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Speaker 1: you free slurpies for you know, Um, is that a

637
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: thing on seven eleven? You know? But yeah, anybody probably

638
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: years that would be his first five birthday. Okay, God,

639
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. You blew my mind a little

640
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: bit there, um, But yes, things were just trending upward.

641
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: And then for that to happen, you know, as I

642
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: spoke about it, it came in. It was a failed

643
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: drug test in April, and for me, the person who

644
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: I am it, I had no idea what happened, where

645
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: it came from. So for first and foremost, it was like,

646
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: how do I figure out what happened? Who made the

647
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: mistake in the sense of something but somebody who tested

648
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: it my piss must have switched it up with someone

649
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: else's or whatever. Right, So my first reaction when I

650
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: heard the name, I'm like, nah, this has to be

651
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: someone someone messed up the tax to the email whatever

652
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: it was in the press release. And then you know,

653
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: when I found out what the supplement actually was. We

654
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: actually filed the lawsuit this past Friday, so getting forward

655
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: with that process. But after that part, it became okay,

656
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: what do I do with this? And that's kind of

657
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: how I attack all adversity in my life. It's like, okay, well,

658
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: first we're gonna it as best as we possibly can.

659
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: Went through the old appeal process and all that type

660
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: of stuff. Show documentation me trying to check all this stuff,

661
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: the laboratory results showing that you know, this was a

662
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: contaminated supplement, right, this is not on its label, but

663
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, but okay, we don't win that, right, I'm

664
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: responsible for within my body. I get that, Well, what

665
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: do I do with this now? Again? Curl up in

666
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: the ball? Or do I use this to fuel me

667
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: these next few weeks? Do I use this as a

668
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: time to catch up with my wife and and spend

669
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: time with my newborn son, catch up with my mother,

670
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff, And I say catch up.

671
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: It's not that athletes, as our schedules are so hectic

672
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: right now that like we don't have some of us

673
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: don't have the time to just like, hey, mom, how

674
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: you doing right? Like last week was my first week

675
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: back and I literally have my text messages are crazy

676
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: right now because I haven't had a chance to respond

677
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: to people I've always wondered about that because I feel like,

678
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: as an employee here, I'm pretty busy to begin with.

679
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: And all my friends like, oh, you want to go

680
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: to happy Are you want to do this? I'm like, dude,

681
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: I can't do anything. So I can only imagine what

682
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: it's like to be a player and be flooded with

683
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: text messages. I know that's such a minor thing to

684
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: think about. But but and so I think to answer

685
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: your question coming out of the suspension, well, going into it, first,

686
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I got my mind right of like, Okay, what does

687
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: this mean financially? I'm a financial literacy professor. What does

688
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: this mean to me financial? Right? Um? What does this

689
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: mean for me from a brand standpoint? Who I am

690
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: as a person? How do I combat this? You know?

691
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: One of the most tragic things to me personally was,

692
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, while I was on suspension, I was at

693
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: this training facility in New Jersey for a little bit

694
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: and then I went down to Florida. But while I

695
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: was there, there was this young kid who got hit

696
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: by a car right on the I was rehabbing my

697
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: wrist and all of that type of stuff, and and

698
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: this kid he got hit by car, young kid, and

699
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: and he's in there and so his mom's like, hey,

700
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: he plays with the Jets, you know, say say HOI

701
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: told him bl blah blah blah. And he's like, no,

702
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: you don't, and she she's like, yeah, he does. Come on,

703
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: we can just google him. And I literally in my

704
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: head like it was just like, yeah, you can't even

705
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: and and everything just sunk because I was like, literally

706
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, if he would have googled me, it

707
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: would be all these great things about what I'm doing.

708
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: And now if he googles me, it'll be p d

709
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: p d p d p d p d p d

710
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: p d right, and he might not ever read or

711
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: know the story, but he, this young kid might take

712
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: that from me, right. Um. So again, regardless of that,

713
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: regardless of that, I think it's it was and I

714
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: look at it as an opportunity one to see who's

715
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: really in your corner um from a business standpoint to

716
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: things that I was doing off the field. I got

717
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: to see who really trust, who really understands who I am.

718
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Unfortunately a lot of people were like, oh you know,

719
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: we we they had the same reaction that you all had, right. Um.

720
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: Some we're like we'll stay away from you for right now, cool.

721
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to do business with you. That's that's

722
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: the great part of having financial freedom is aren't ever

723
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: come back to me again? Right? Um? And then now,

724
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: how do I use this as the thing that will

725
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: propel me into an amazing career year for the rest

726
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: of the season. And so you know, now it's just again,

727
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm all in, I'm back to work and I'm just

728
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm here all day. Well, we're happy you're back. Wait wait, wait,

729
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 1: we love seeing you play. We love you as a dude,

730
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: one of the best people in the locker room. And

731
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: he ain't smiling. Yeah, listen brings it brings juice. Yeah,

732
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: a lot of lessons and the tough part of that

733
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: whole deal, like you were talking about, which I do

734
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: have some admiration for you, here is that for me, Like, Okay,

735
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a tough time trust in anybody give

736
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: me any supplement again, because you you checked all the

737
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: boxes and then still in the end you got burnt,

738
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: which sucked. But if anybody knows anything about you is

739
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: that you do things right. You're gonna continue to do

740
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: things right. And I think great things are a store

741
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: in store for you, not only off the field because

742
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: that's what we talked about today. But as you continue

743
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: to be part of this rotation, I think good things

744
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: are ahead for the Jett and uh going off that

745
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: you talked about before. Just as we wrap up here,

746
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: I think you like this. You seem like a quote guy.

747
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're a quote guy, but when

748
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about when you get suspended, you you know,

749
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: some people curl up. What do you do? I used

750
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: to work at a sleepaway camp a couple of years

751
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: ago and they have all these different quotes throughout the camp,

752
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: and one of them was this. This one stood out

753
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: to me more than anything else and said, It's not

754
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: the weight that carries the man down, it's the way

755
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: he carries it. It's not the weight that brings the

756
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: man down, it's the way he carries it. So there

757
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: you go. That's how we wrap up this episode on

758
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: the official Jazz podcast Little Quote Cope. Thanks for coming

759
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: to the play MGM Studios. You you have to rate

760
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: us and review us, and so does everyone watching and

761
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,880
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762
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: Google Play, basically almost anywhere you can find a podcast.

763
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Speaker 1: And we'll see you next week,