WEBVTT - Introduction: F1 102 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.960 Hello, yo, Hi, It's Michael Costa from remember F one? 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:12.000 Oh yeah, how's it going? 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.480 Well? Personally it's fine, but this F one stuff I 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.160 don't I don't get it. It's now a good time 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.120 to talk. Can I call you back? Look, I don't 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.760 get what's going on. You got me into Formula one 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.640 last year I reluctantly became a fan. Okay, okay, and 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:27.720 Ferrari sucks. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:28.960 This is my team. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.480 This is embarrassing. I picked them. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.159 Yeah, well, I mean you picked them exactly. We didn't 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.920 make you pick them. We kind of told you they suck. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.800 You kind of told me that they were a big team. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.280 And George Russell, he's cute and all, but put up 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.760 a result. We got to stand behind your tee because 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.680 now you got me into it, and so I'm kind 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.400 of My Instagram is buzzing. I'm getting the headlines, but 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.200 I don't know what the ship is going on. What's 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.200 up with the tires. I've changed tires once in my life. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.560 Yeah, it's not the same thing. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.960 The buttons on the steering wheel looks like a video 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.680 game controller. What is each button do? What's an undercut? 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.080 What's an overcut? Why are they driving in the rains, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.560 these celebrities in the paddock. What is the paddock? What 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.560 all these graphs and screens that the engineers are staring at? 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.920 Who's driving the fucking cars? The engineers or the driver? 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.800 What else do the people who do the pit stops do? 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.000 Is that all they do? They work for two seconds. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.600 That's a great job. I wish I had that job. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.280 I know just enough now that I know that I 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.280 don't know anything, and I blame you for that. YOHI 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.120 is that every going to say your name? Michael? I 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.120 need information, Dude. You can't just turn me into a 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:30.320 fan and then leave. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.720 I hear you. I'm in the middle here. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.479 Sorry, go back to your family thing. I just am 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.760 confused and I'm angry, and I have you to blame 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:41.960 for it. For my heart Podcast one on one Studios 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.800 and Sports Illustrated Studios, This is choosing sides. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:59.320 Yes one, Wow, do. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:00.960 We win some word? Last year. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.920 We were nominated for two different awards. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.399 I think those things were all bullshit, but whatever. Still 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.760 when you win them, it's nice. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:10.840 Yep, total bullshit. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:16.200 Okay, let's do it. That's Tony. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:16.680 Yes. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.880 Last season, Lily guided me into this incredible sport and 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:26.639 helped me choose my affiliation, Lily. Yes, I need some 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.720 ownership over somebody, a team, a car, and that's missing. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:39.800 Well, have I got a podcast for you. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:37.840 You know, to give a little skin in the game. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.120 So I knew what was going on, and I chose aside, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:40.600 you chose. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.000 Sorry, my condolences. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.600 Why the fuck am I so unlucky? 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.560 Why the fuck am I so unlucky. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:48.440 Turning out for you? 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.960 Looking back? If I could go back in time, maybe 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.320 I would revisit that decision. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.359 Oh my god, oh my fuck it. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.720 And then George was my driver. I even got a 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.600 George Russell tattoo. Okay, stop, I feel lost. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.520 I think I know what your problem is. Just regarding 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.359 Formula one, I say, we've just met each other. This 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:17.520 is therapy one on one. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:17.880 Let's go. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.160 I think you haven't figured out yet exactly what type 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.520 of Formula one fan you are and could be. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.680 I don't understand. You mean there's different types of fans. Oh, yes, 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.880 so Tony, you can help me figure this out. You 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.200 can help me figure out what type of f one 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:37.279 fan I am. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:38.800 Oh, have I got a show for you? 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.640 Are you going to be doing that accent? This whole 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:45.440 part yeah. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.800 Yeah, start, We'll stuck with this one, that's for sure. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.080 Before we keep going. Who are you? 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.200 It's a good questions when I ask myself every day. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.440 We have just wrapped the ass AJP, Tony, Caen Brown, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.960 Hugh Tony. Hi, I'm f on Tony, but you can 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.400 also call me just Tony. I'm a tech and Formula 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.400 one commentator coming to you live from the Effie Paddock 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.880 and the Miami GP. Live from the inaugural Formula one 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:12.560 Vegas GP. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.200 I don't know if you can actually hear me because 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.000 the audience and the fans have been so incredible the 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:23.320 whole weekend. I'm an avid Formula one fan and have 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:24.800 been since nineteen ninety one. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.400 Wow, that I just age myself massive. 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.599 Well, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.880 I just wasn't introduced. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:32.279 To it last year. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:33.000 I know. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.120 But has it been fun? 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.600 It's been fun? But man, there's a lot of questions. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.960 Yes, yeah, there's a lot of answers to it. That's 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:39.560 the beauty of it. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.080 And do you do you feel like you have a 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:41.960 lot of those answers? 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:47.440 Yes, I'm in, You're in, I'm all in and great, Okay, 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:48.320 let's get cracking. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.560 Michael, do you I mean, I know you're a celebrity, but 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.840 this is radio, so they can't see you. Do you 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.400 want to introduce yourself as well? 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.880 Well, Hi, my name's Michael Costa and I'm back for 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:06.560 season two of Choosing Sides is back in sound. I 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:11.680 explain this in the first season. Any activity where you 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:17.719 have to perform under pressure, I love watching humans step 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.320 up or fall in a moment of pressure fascinates me. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.240 And man is f one like the ultimate of that 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:30.640 because if you if you mess up, there's there's real consequences. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.760 It's not like tennis, my sport, where if you mess 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.320 up you hit the ball in the net. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.320 I know there's been some debate on Twitter about the 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:38.000 Miss of the Year. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.600 I think we have a new nominee who cares. Goodness 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.560 me stug what's from Tomovitch? 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.320 But in this sport, if you mess up, there's danger, 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.200 there's fire, there's speed, there's tech, there's money. As far 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.640 as the logistics, the history, the sponsors, the understanding of 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.640 the sport, I am a big dumb idiot. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.320 That's actually how we found you were looking for somebody 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.200 who is not an expert at anything. It just doesn't 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:03.880 know anything to tell. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.280 You what you're an expert at busting my balls. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.919 Tony, on the other hand, is an actual expert. She 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.800 was one of our guests in season one, and there's 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.000 this one thing that she said back then that stuck 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.360 with me and that I think really speaks to what 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.360 we're trying to do here in season two. 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.839 I am a firm believer that the more you know 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.240 about something, the more you get, the more you can 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.000 enjoy the actual sport. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.479 Yep, exactly. And it's definitely like a lot of subjects 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.919 where the more you know, the more you know that 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.080 you don't know, Yeah, you know what I mean, I 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:37.920 do know what you mean. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.760 Yeah. And also the more you know that you don't know, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:42.720 the more you know that you know. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:46.520 Zultan, Can you just shut them down? 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:47.880 Don't touch that button's all time? 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.560 Can you shut off? As Mike, I have more to. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.960 Get You're high has now left the chat. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.160 Thank you? What's the plan? What are we doing here? So? 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.800 I feel like in season one we gave you the 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.000 basics and we help to figure out who your team 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.039 and who your driver is. Season two of Choosing Sites 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.680 is going to be the one O two. If you will. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.080 We're going to take you, and we're going to take 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.280 this a step, fir that we're going to dive deeper 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:14.280 into the intricacies of the sport in an effort to 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:18.000 help you figure out what kind of Formula one fan 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:18.480 you are. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.200 Michael, I didn't realize there were different F one fans. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.480 Talk to me, goose, Hey, guys, can you hear me? 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.880 It is another day in Paradise. 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.280 So over the past few months, Tony and I have 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:35.320 been very busy conducting dozens and dozens of interviews. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:39.640 Those experts are helpful, they make me sound better, and 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.240 sometimes they interrupted me and I don't like. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:42.840 My name is Madelie Coleman. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.520 I'm a staff writer covering Formula one for the Athletic. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.200 My name's tartans LAWI Clay Kinsey aka break former F 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:51.600 one performance engineer. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.800 Professional race car driver for twenty years now, passionate about 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.400 life and pretty much everything that can fly flow. I'll 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:00.960 go fast. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.400 Lily Herman, writer editor by trade in the context of 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:08.000 F one, I did co host season one of Choosing 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.720 Sides F one, so I am very familiar with everyone. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.400 I'm here to be a menace to YOHI. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.760 I'm sure, We're just gonna have fun and you'll pull 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:15.480 out the best bits. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:15.800 Hi. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.880 I'm Scott Mansell, founder of Driver sixty one. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.640 Is it fair to call you a tire heead treadhead? 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:25.000 Would would rhyme or we on? That could also be technically. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.480 I think fashion is how these personalities show who they are. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.800 I do have to mention the c boys. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.160 I think fan girls get a bad wrap. Our goal 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:38.480 is really just to bring people together, fan girls, fan boys. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:45.679 We talked to super fans, drivers, engineers, journalists, meteorologists, human encyclopedia. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.360 Hello, folks, I'm Sean Kelly. All the facts and figures 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.480 you hear in a Formula one broadcast, whether they be 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.959 in the graphics, whether they be spoken by the likes 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.040 of David Croft or Martin Brundle or Alex Jakes or whomever. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.480 I am chief responsible for all of that content. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.760 All people who are coming at the sport from very 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.640 different directions, but nonetheless they all are madly in love 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.440 with it. And one thing they did keep coming back 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.679 to was how layered and nuanced F one was as 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:18.600 a sport. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.480 I've always thought of Formula one is a bit like 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.360 an onion, and it has many layers. You know, you 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.959 can appreciate it just at first glance of what you see, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.559 whatever that may be. You may find Charles the Clerk 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.959 on social media and think he looks cute or cool 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.680 or whatever and start following him, or you may be 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.520 very interested in the aerodynamic side of things. Can come 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.000 at it from a technical point of view. The point is, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.280 it's all of those things and a lot more. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.640 It's almost like going from a two D looking at 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.080 a two D shape like a circle into a three 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.000 D sphere right, or like a square into a cube. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.640 Like you just see more dimensions, more layers, more pandemonium, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.560 more tension, more stakes. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:00.280 They all is this. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.000 The more you know about the sport, and the. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.240 More you stick with our show, the more layers you'll add. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.079 Dear f one Cake. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.120 I think that's lovely. We're gonna take a quick break 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:17.600 and be right back. Hey, we're back from the quick break, Tony. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.040 Give me a little rundown on the different types of fans. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:20.959 What are my options here? 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.960 Okay, so you could have your game farest for example, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.840 because this isn't the game of uno. This is very 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.120 much a game of chess. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.520 Yes, it is in some instances especially a race. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.360 Former F One engineer Blake Hinsey. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.240 If you want to watch a Formula One race and 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.960 understand what's going on, you have two options. You can 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.280 watch the race lap by lap and observe what's happening 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.040 and say it wasn't that great. But one of the 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.480 best things about Formula One is the suspense, and a 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.440 lot of people get a lot of satisfaction of having 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.080 an understanding of how the game can unfold and the variables, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:57.960 and they want to know what's going to happen next 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.920 because they're probably watching it with their friend and it's like, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.200 watch out for Carlos here, he's he needs to stop 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.120 soon for new tires, and without that kind of context, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.000 you're kind of sitting there thinking what's going to happen next. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.280 You don't have to be an expert, but having exposure 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.640 awareness of the variables at least gives so many more 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.640 questions and so many where things are going through your 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.280 head while you're watching a Grand Prix. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:21.520 That's game theory. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.679 You could be someone that just loves the strategy of 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:24.160 the sports. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.960 You know, you can have a plan and if somebody 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.160 does a different move and you do not react to 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.559 that move, and you can end up at a disadvantage 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.760 and it forces your hand, and it can put you 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.320 in a difficult spot and you may not have all 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.200 the you know that, you may not have all the 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.520 information you need to make that decision. But do you 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.000 make a pit stop to cover that car or do 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.720 you stay out and stick to plan A which one 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:47.280 pays off? 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.520 Okay, what else statistician tough to say? 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.599 I mean, I'm sure you've spoken to a ton of 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.760 people that are like, it's just a bunch of cars 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.240 going around in circles, isn't it. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.520 I think data, data and lots and lots of data. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.360 For me, the data driven part of fandom and the 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:06.959 stories which really unfold during a race or during a season, 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.200 it's it's just such a complex web of stories all 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:10.840 happening at once. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.720 And that's why I think I just get so fascinated 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:12.960 by it. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.080 Tech entrepreneur trekns Lowie. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.960 If you're a person a fan that loves to live 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.600 in the rabbit hole, that loves to understand what's going 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.439 on beneath the surface, well, all the story, like the broadcast, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.040 is such a narrow window on all of these events 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:33.240 that are going on, Like tire graining, pit stop times, overcuts, undercuts, 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.000 fuel consumption. Oh god, you understand that there's a there's 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.600 a much more complex web of stories going on in 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.920 one race than you can possibly see on the broadcast. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.840 And to me, that's the real fun of it. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.120 I don't think I'm going to be a stattician fan. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:53.960 Well to convince it, even it is zero level, tires 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.720 are complicated, and the more you know, the more you 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.000 can enjoy watching the racing. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.040 Tire ahead, which I think is probably yes, we're going 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:03.439 to devote a whole episode. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.400 We well, we have to. We have to because they 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:06.360 talk about it so much. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.800 Well, look, if you were to let me talk as 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.040 long as I wanted to about tires, especially with such 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.880 a knowledgeable person as Tony here, I could go on 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:21.480 for hours and days just talking about tires. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.280 This interview with Matt Trumpet, a huge, self professed fan 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.080 of everything and anything to do with them F one 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.160 tires crazy, did in fact run pretty long. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.920 And I could tell you that to suspension design, the canber, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.280 the toe, all of it is aimed at making those 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:43.920 tires operate in a very narrow temperature margin. And within 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.840 that narrow temperature margin, there's an even tinier sweet spot. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.360 So if you're ever watching qualifying and suddenly somebody does 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.959 something extraordinary, what's really happened is they've prepared the tires 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.920 on their outlap where they drive very slowly to perfect 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:05.080 and then managed them perfectly throughout the lab so that 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.040 they use the very last of their grip exiting the 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:13.360 very last corner. The physics attires is amazing. Hysteresis and 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:18.160 all of disco elastic performance and you know, glass transition temperatures. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.400 It's just really amazing. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.600 There's just a world of research that goes into these things. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:28.000 Please, finally, I can't wait. That episode is where the 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.960 rubber meets the road. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:32.520 Unintended. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:32.960 Let's go. 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:34.960 There's other types of fans. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:40.320 There are the logistics nerd. This is absolutely a traveling circus. 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.800 There's nothing else like it. Really, there is nothing else 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.520 like Formula one logistically because of all the different components 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.520 that go into it. I mean we're talking about the 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.640 cars alone weigh two thousand pounds. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.280 This is Joe Bonpliano, entrepreneur and investor. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.160 It's really one of the only global sports that we have. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.320 There are sports leagues that play in other places. There's 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.000 you know, European football teams that play friendlies in the US, 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.880 and even the NFL goes international, but Formula one is 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.240 global in its blood. It's everywhere. People need to remember that. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.120 In some instances, Formula one is taking over, you know, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.840 an entire downtown area or an entire track. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.200 Twenty three twenty four different countries, and. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.600 It makes it really challenging because it's not an asset 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.280 like business where you can just kind of pick yourself up, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.280 fly over there and then do the event. It's you 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.040 need the cars, you need grand stands put up, you 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.040 need premium hospitality. You obviously need to bring hundreds of employees. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.720 You have to have the motor homes set up and 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.760 the hospitality areas for the teams themselves. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.840 There's air freights, there's things that are put on the 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.520 back of trucks, there's things that are put on the 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.920 back of planes, on the back of boats. You have 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.200 to make sure that everything arrives on time. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.320 And that's really challenging logistically because there's so many different 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:48.960 moving parts. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.320 The logistics part is always one that I find fascinating, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.080 especially if you talk with anyone on the logistics teams 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.520 in Formula one, they will say there's no plan B, right, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.120 there's a Plan A, and plan has got to work. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.040 If you don't deliver fuel, the teams is unable to raise. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.000 This is Georgia Cherabasi DHL Motorsports track side Manager. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.720 In this case, there is no plan B because it 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.640 has to happen. They don't have any other choice other 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:20.400 than using their own fuel. So it's one case where yes, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.280 we don't have any any Plan B just has to happen. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.320 You know, a general would say that. An amateur would 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.920 talk about tactics, right, but a professional we'll talk about logistics. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.920 By who are you reading a military book? Are you 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.640 just coming up with the stuff in your head right now? 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.200 I like that. Are there other types of fans? There 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:41.720 can't be. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.880 Yes, But let's goes on. Where are only halfway? Are 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.640 you here? Where there is money and where there is power, 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.880 there's always going to be drama and gossip. In Formula 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.240 one there's a lot of money and there's a lot 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:54.720 of power plays happening. 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.160 Yes, lots of drama, lots of gossip. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.480 That was Zoe one half of the Hannah and Zoey 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.880 duo Behind Fan Behavior podcast. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:07.719 It's always funny to me whenever we get again, people 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.560 commenting about how like, why are we talking about this 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.399 sort of drama off track? Drama or something that they 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:19.080 don't feel like is what is on track. It's like 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:24.119 this sport is full of drama, and I think sport 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.600 in general, yes, obviously the focus is what happens on 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.600 the track, and there's drama on the track, but you 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.760 also can't ignore what's happening off the track because that 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:37.280 also affects what happens on the track. And I think 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.680 formula one again, this plays into the Real Housewives component 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.359 of this of why people compare it to that show. 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.440 It's just it's so insular, it's so it's so tight, 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.439 it's so close knit that I think that reads the 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.879 drama and the gossip. I think any friend group, you know, 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.040 friend group, family, there's always drama, there's always gossip, and 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.399 I think the closer you are, almost the more drama 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.440 and the more goss that there tends to be. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.960 Okay, speed Jungle. I was going to say, we gotta 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.639 have something about speed. Speed. Yes, we haven't even mentioned that. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:08.560 We haven't mentioned that. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.840 That's the cause one of the corest things these things 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.159 go fast they do. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.720 Yeah, well, in my opinion, it's the most beautiful part 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:16.800 of racing. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.360 Scott Mantle of Driver sixty one. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.360 The finesse. The skill that these drivers have in kind 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.520 of caressing the car into the breaking in through the 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.280 corner and extracting the very most speed that they can 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.680 is fascinating to watch. Now I'm aware it's very kind 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.760 of detailed viewing and as you get deeper and deeper 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.879 into the sport, for me, it's the most fascinating part. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:41.840 I'm going to tell you a funny story. My wife 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.800 always complained that I was training too much. I was 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.119 doing too much team, I was doing too much bicycle 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.280 and I didn't need all of that to be a 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:49.160 race car driver. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:54.000 And that's ex F one driver Roman Grojan aka the Phoenix. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.320 And then that accident in Bahrain were seventy sixty seven 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:03.440 g impact, got stuck in a cab fire, didn't lose consciousness, 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:09.199 which is amazing, and was strong enough to escape from 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:14.199 being locked between you know, a burrier, a halo headrest 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:19.200 and into far and just because I was strong enough 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.880 and fit enough and got the energy to jump. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:22.919 Out of it, I made it. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.159 And since then she's like, well you can go as 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.960 much as you wanted the gym, so you know it 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.040