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Speaker 2: I was on the phone with the source yesterday talking
Speaker 2: about the Cleveland Browns and I said, hey, you guys
Speaker 2: interested in Russell Wilson. He goes, Russ just signed with
Speaker 2: the Giants. I go, okay, so you're not interested in
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. It said we were, but and I said, okay,
Speaker 2: so that means you're taking Shador Sanders And he goes.
Speaker 2: Everybody is tight lipped about what the Browns are doing.
Speaker 2: They have the number two pick in the draft, and
Speaker 2: I was wondering about this. So this is where you
Speaker 2: get different agendas. The Browns could take Shador Sanders. Now,
Speaker 2: once again, don't take our quarterback. Take the quarterback, the
Speaker 2: quarterback who fits your style, your coaching staff, your system,
Speaker 2: all of those things. But if you take Shador Sanders, Now,
Speaker 2: I got a rookie contract. Now that eases some of
Speaker 2: the financial pain from Deshaun Watson's contract. You can let
Speaker 2: him kind of fade away, he'll never play for you again,
Speaker 2: and you get Shadoor Sanders as your quarterback. Now, you're
Speaker 2: also going to pass up on guys who might be
Speaker 2: wearing a gold jacket when their careers are over, Abdul
Speaker 2: Carter and Travis Hunter. So you'd be passing up two
Speaker 2: guys out of this draft where you could probably say,
Speaker 2: if they play accordingly according to you know, let the
Speaker 2: scouts assess their talents, they'll be Hall of Fame caliber players.
Speaker 2: You don't know that about Cam Warton, you don't know
Speaker 2: that about Shadoor Sanders. But then I asked my source,
Speaker 2: I said, well, what about Kirk Cousins. He said, well,
Speaker 2: he'd have to be healthy and he's going to cost
Speaker 2: us a draft pick. And I said, okay, but he's
Speaker 2: played with Kevin Stefanski, you're a head coach before. He's
Speaker 2: been with him before. He said yes. I said, okay,
Speaker 2: just help me understand this though, because you don't have
Speaker 2: a quarterback now, I mean, you don't have a true
Speaker 2: starting quarterback. And I keep feeling and hearing that maybe
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins once the draft is over, And this is
Speaker 2: what I keep going back to. If you're the Browns,
Speaker 2: you can get Russ, you can keep him in the division,
Speaker 2: and then you can decide what you want to do.
Speaker 2: Maybe you take Abdul Carter, the great edge rusher out
Speaker 2: of Penn State, so you get him with Miles Garrett
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you got something there.
Speaker 2: But if you don't and you take Shador Sanders, you're
Speaker 2: not ready to win now, but you still get your quarterback,
Speaker 2: quarterback contract, quarterback of the future. Then you have the
Speaker 2: giant situation. They already brought in Jameis Winston, they had
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, and I kept thinking, Okay, now this is
Speaker 2: where Shador Sanders is going, but I'm not so sure
Speaker 2: because you brought you brought in Russ and Jameis Winston,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking this coaching staff and this GM have
Speaker 2: to win now. If you bring in Shador Sanders, he
Speaker 2: might not play. You might have Jameis Winston out there
Speaker 2: if you didn't bring in Russ. That feels like, you know,
Speaker 2: they're probably on an eight or nine game schedule. This
Speaker 2: coaching staff in GM like they have to be able
Speaker 2: to win now. They might not like Shador Sanders and
Speaker 2: maybe they end up with Travis Hunter, maybe they end
Speaker 2: up with Abdull Carter. Those are great, great players to
Speaker 2: have that fall into your lap. But that's where I'm
Speaker 2: wondering about the mindset of the coaching staff in GM.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Obviously John Mayer, the owner of the Giants, can see
Speaker 2: through this. Who's the best guy to take, who helps
Speaker 2: us big picture? Not necessarily right now, because you're not
Speaker 2: right now, not in that division, but you have a
Speaker 2: coaching staff that better win. They better have a seven
Speaker 2: and two record, six and three record. It feels like
Speaker 2: after nine games, or if they have a three win
Speaker 2: they're three and six after nine to keep them, and
Speaker 2: I think their timeframe is we got to get somebody
Speaker 2: who can help us win now. Jamis Winston, Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: one year deals, no real long term commitments. There were
Speaker 2: good Maybe we don't like the other quarterback or other
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the draft. Maybe we try to get Jackson
Speaker 2: Dart little later on, maybe Jalen Milroe out of Alabama.
Speaker 2: So I was I was all over my source just
Speaker 2: trying to get some kind of information on what's going
Speaker 2: on with Cleveland, and I couldn't get it. Didn't know
Speaker 2: if they were sold on Shador. I didn't know if
Speaker 2: that's the place that he went to and he interviewed,
Speaker 2: and the quarterbacks coach thought he was arrogant, I you know,
Speaker 2: because does Dion want his son to go to the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, and I wondered about that as well. I
Speaker 2: keep thinking New York because it feels like Shador, if
Speaker 2: he goes to New York, he already walks in. He's
Speaker 2: got a really good wide receiver there, and he's built
Speaker 2: for this. Like of all of the players, if you're
Speaker 2: built for the media capital, if you're built for a spotlight,
Speaker 2: it would be Shador Sanders. His dad welcomed the spotlight.
Speaker 2: Shador seems to welcome the spotlight as well and doesn't
Speaker 2: always work out. I go back with baseball, and I
Speaker 2: remember Greg Maddox didn't want to play in New York,
Speaker 2: remember ed Witson Pitcher. He wanted out in New York,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, New York felt too big for him. Eli
Speaker 2: Manning was ready for it. His personality made him ready
Speaker 2: for New York.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, he welcomed it, it's just his achilles didn't.
Speaker 2: And even then there was still thought that maybe he
Speaker 2: would end up with the Giants because he didn't want
Speaker 2: to leave New York. He loved going to the Rangers games,
Speaker 2: standing ovation, going to the Knicks games. Like you go
Speaker 2: to New York, you better embrace it. If not it'll
Speaker 2: steamroll you. But that's what I thought was Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2: He's ready for New York if he's the right quarterback
Speaker 2: for you, which I still don't know. Cam Ward is
Speaker 2: a really good quarterback, but he's not a really good
Speaker 2: quarterback in the bigger picture of quarterbacks in the NFL
Speaker 2: right now, because when we talked to draft analysts, they
Speaker 2: talk about cam Ward would be would have been the
Speaker 2: fifth or sixth quarterback taken last year. Okay, Matt Miller,
Speaker 2: great job at the Mothership. He said that recently. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not a knock on him. He's still he's just
Speaker 2: the best quarterback.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: It's timing when you come out. Who are the other
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who are coming out? And he's the best quarterback
Speaker 2: this year. But he separated himself, it feels like from
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. So that was going on yesterday afternoon, and
Speaker 2: I kept thinking, I just spent forty five minutes talking
Speaker 2: to my sores and I didn't get anything out of it.
Speaker 2: I was like, dang, I got to get I have
Speaker 2: to ask better questions. And I usually do pretty good
Speaker 2: asking questions. I couldn't get anything tight lipped. That's what
Speaker 2: I was told Yep, Brown's tight lipped on what they're
Speaker 2: doing at number two.
Speaker 4: Come on, maybe they don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they're the Cleveland Browns would and be like, wait,
Speaker 2: we got the second pick on the Hey, hey, we
Speaker 2: got the second pick of the draft. By the way,
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Speaker 5: Better pregame speech guy on the Giants Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you looking for inspiration or entertainment? Because Jamis
Speaker 2: might not inspire me, but he would entertain me. So
Speaker 2: I would say Russ would give you the raw rah rah.
Speaker 2: But I just wonder if it adds to these guys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're grown up. You're in there, and you got somebody.
Speaker 4: Going we're gonna run and we're gonna Taylor.
Speaker 2: Head up and around and then you're like, all right,
Speaker 2: let's go, but obvious, say Jamis would be entertaining.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm of the camp that Jameis Winston is extremely annoying.
Speaker 4: He we only see a little bit. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't find him amusing at all. Oh, I think
Speaker 2: he's he's not trying to be amusing. He's one of
Speaker 2: those guys that like Fritzy, he's funny, but not when
Speaker 2: he's not trying to be funny.
Speaker 4: I think there's a complimentari somewhere, really deep.
Speaker 5: I think Jameis Winston is trying to be funny. I
Speaker 5: think he's like class clown kind.
Speaker 6: Of Okay, Yeah, Paul, I can't tell whether Jamis is
Speaker 6: in on the joke or not.
Speaker 4: I think he's just odd, yes.
Speaker 7: But is that controllable? Is he calculated or.
Speaker 2: Is he just goofy? I think he's goofy. I think
Speaker 2: Russ wants to be something. I think he wants to
Speaker 2: be the motivational I think he wants to be the
Speaker 2: raw rock guy, the leader. It just comes off a
Speaker 2: little too scripted. It's it's not like truly emotional. And
Speaker 2: then what's he going to say at the end, you know,
Speaker 2: whenever he does his interviews when he'd.
Speaker 4: Be with Seattle.
Speaker 2: You go all right, okay, talk to you later, go home,
Speaker 2: and then in Denver, all right, we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me on Let's Ride.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what he did for the I
Speaker 2: don't think he did one for the Steelers.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Let's Ride didn't go over well. Well
Speaker 4: when you don't play very well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even right from before he even threw his
Speaker 5: first pass, we did about three straight weeks on Let's Ride.
Speaker 4: May there was the video of.
Speaker 5: Him like I don't know if he was practicing it
Speaker 5: or if it was like whatever, you know. I mean,
Speaker 5: Let's Ride did not go well for us, fairly or unfairly.
Speaker 5: That whole catchphrase didn't.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he had one in Pittsburgh. And
Speaker 2: maybe somebody in Pittsburgh can let us know. But we
Speaker 2: didn't hear from Russ once he went to Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 2: for some reason we lost contact.
Speaker 4: With Russ's Okay, focus on your craft. Yes, let's write
Speaker 4: the ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe yeah, maybe maybe you know, you have a
Speaker 2: good week, good month, maybe we'll have him back on.
Speaker 8: Yes, Tom for Winston, are you more likely to embrace
Speaker 8: or tune out odd if we want to put the
Speaker 8: odd title on Jamis Winston. Each player obviously is different,
Speaker 8: but I wonder if the average football player would embrace
Speaker 8: thatt a find like.
Speaker 4: This guy's, well, what would you do?
Speaker 7: I would embrace the oddness.
Speaker 4: You usually ask a question, especially.
Speaker 8: If he's the backup quarterback. I don't need to, you know,
Speaker 8: I don't need to be his best friend. I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't have to have any strong feeling either way
Speaker 8: if Russ is our guy. But I would lean towards
Speaker 8: embracing the oddness as long as there's some entertainment.
Speaker 2: But why don't you ask yourself the question and then
Speaker 2: you give me your answer, you know, just say you
Speaker 2: know what it would I would embrace the oddness that
Speaker 2: is a thought that that yeah, because you can't spell
Speaker 2: todd without odd.
Speaker 1: Yes s.
Speaker 5: I'm okay with odd odd as a leader sometimes, especially
Speaker 5: when your leadership abilities should severely be questioned anyway. But
Speaker 5: you know, like if you're getting ready for the game
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, like Jamis is like guys, guys, guys,
Speaker 5: get around, get around, You're like, oh jesus, here we go,
Speaker 5: all right, jamishad dude, just I'm just trying to get
Speaker 5: out there and get won't here we go?
Speaker 4: Jamis is gonna do that to me?
Speaker 9: Was you lick your fingers and you put your fingers
Speaker 9: in a W? Let's eat a W?
Speaker 4: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: What? What are you doing? Okay?
Speaker 2: What's Russell Wilson say at the end of every interview
Speaker 2: now that he's a New York Giants?
Speaker 4: Fritzy, do you have a few? I do have a few? Okay, Okay, the.
Speaker 3: Giant was one thought.
Speaker 4: Okay, Jersey boys.
Speaker 7: They play there, met Lifer, be blue.
Speaker 8: And why because we can jint condition instead of men's condition,
Speaker 8: because they call them jints ginch condition, blue bloods. And
Speaker 8: then I also had weemen as opposed to g men.
Speaker 3: They're the weemen a giant.
Speaker 4: I think be Giant might be the winner there, met
Speaker 4: Lifer the stadium.
Speaker 5: Yes, set, I'm seeing on the interwebs here that Russell Wilson,
Speaker 5: whilst in Pittsburgh, would close press conferences with the phrase
Speaker 5: win the seventh.
Speaker 4: Seventh Super Bowl. Seventh super Bowl, guys.
Speaker 5: You your time, win the seventh here you walk off.
Speaker 5: I don't know that I've that didn't really bubble up
Speaker 5: on the radar quite as much. But I don't know
Speaker 5: how often he said that or if he really did.
Speaker 5: But according to the Internet, he said, win the seventh.
Speaker 5: And then with the Giants, what do they have two
Speaker 5: super Bowls? Three super Bowls?
Speaker 4: I think four to four? So win the fifth? Hey,
Speaker 4: big apple bite it? No, I mean.
Speaker 2: My big apple bite. Yeah, let's bite it.
Speaker 4: Why didn't he say with the yes, why didn't he
Speaker 4: say go fourth?
Speaker 8: Then with the Broncos, as they had three super Bowls,
Speaker 8: they're gonna if he's gonna play up numbers like they
Speaker 8: did with the Steelers.
Speaker 2: No, no, he truly knew they weren't going to win
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Was Yeah, he couldn't be that phony. No,
Speaker 2: he couldn't say.
Speaker 4: Why didn't they talking about Arthen Bowl? Anything you're talking
Speaker 4: about Arthen Wall.
Speaker 8: Let's ride definitely didn't make sense because anytime anyone got
Speaker 8: anywhere near him, he went right to the ground. So
Speaker 8: he's not riding anywhere.
Speaker 4: Oh, now you turn you turned on it.
Speaker 8: I watched every play here comes comes to shut down.
Speaker 4: He goes.
Speaker 8: Used to scramble with the Seahawks and pick up first downs.
Speaker 8: He just up, I'm down.
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Speaker 4: I had a conversation yesterday with somebody.
Speaker 2: Now in the first hour I mentioned I have a
Speaker 2: source and I was trying to get information about the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, And either he didn't know or he wasn't
Speaker 2: going to spill anything, because I said, what are you
Speaker 2: doing with the number two pick? Now that Russ is
Speaker 2: signed with the Giant. In fact, when I was talking
Speaker 2: to him, I said what about Russ? And he goes, well,
Speaker 2: you just signed with the Giants. I go, okay, so
Speaker 2: he's not going to the Cleveland Browns. This is during
Speaker 2: the phone call. Then I go, okay, what are you doing.
Speaker 2: You're gonna take Abdul Carter. You gotta put him with
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. Would you take Shador Sanders? But Dion let
Speaker 2: his son go to Cleveland. Boy, it makes a lot
Speaker 2: of sense if Cleveland really likes Shador Sanders. Now, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden rookie contract for your quarterback, and it
Speaker 2: eases the financial pain of what you stupidly paid Toshaun
Speaker 2: Watson he wasn't given me anything. I said, what about
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins after the draft? Would you take Kirk Cousins? Maybe, Well,
Speaker 2: he'd have to be healthy and it would cost us
Speaker 2: a draft pick, all right, couldn't get anything crickets. And
Speaker 2: then you look what the Giants are doing with Russ
Speaker 2: and Jameis Winston. Are they going to still take Shador Sanders?
Speaker 2: You know, I went the first hour without mentioning the
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers part of the equation. But it is real.
Speaker 2: It's either Pittsburgh or retirement. That's what it feels like.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was Minnesota or retirement. But he
Speaker 2: did go there for six hours last Fridays. Everybody knows.
Speaker 2: And what is he waiting for now? If he doesn't
Speaker 2: want to give an answer till after the draft and
Speaker 2: the Steelers are fine with that, I'm fine with it,
Speaker 2: like it is my job to cover it.
Speaker 4: Do I wish it happened sooner? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Content, But if it's his time frame and the Steelers
Speaker 2: time frame and they're fine with both of that parts
Speaker 2: of the equation, then I am. I'm all right, Who cares?
Speaker 2: You know, a member of the media whining about something,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll survive, but you do want to be
Speaker 2: ahead of the game kind of figure out. Okay, if
Speaker 2: he goes there, what's it mean. How long is he
Speaker 2: going to go there for? Would they still take a
Speaker 2: quarterback in the draft?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of different things in there. Cam Ward,
Speaker 2: it feels like he has cemented himself as the number
Speaker 2: one overall pick. I'm guessing Tennessee does take him. I
Speaker 2: thought the Giants would try to move up. Cleveland probably
Speaker 2: doesn't want to move up. They'll be fine at too.
Speaker 2: They need help, and you could get Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter,
Speaker 2: and if you truly loved Shudor Sanders, you take him.
Speaker 2: But you start to look at these quarterbacks and we
Speaker 2: pump them up because they're the next wave of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: And I was curious when we had Matt Miller, the
Speaker 2: great draft expert for the Mothership on recently, I said,
Speaker 2: where would cam Ward be with last year's quarterback class?
Speaker 12: If we were talking about last year's drafts, cam Ward
Speaker 12: would have been the sixth or seventh guy drafted, probably
Speaker 12: at quarterback, not overall, at quarterback. And that might still
Speaker 12: make you a top ten pick, right because those guys
Speaker 12: flew up the board last year, but I do think
Speaker 12: he's being elevated. It is interesting both quarterbacks Sanders and Ward,
Speaker 12: they have some bad habits that.
Speaker 3: Are going to need coach out of them.
Speaker 12: Cam Ward's kind of get dismissed because he has a
Speaker 12: strong arm.
Speaker 2: So that's Matt Miller draft analyst for the Mothership of
Speaker 2: where these quarterbacks would be. I think that's the general
Speaker 2: consensus is cam Ward would be after bo Nicks. JJ
Speaker 2: McCarthy is still front and center for the Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 2: and he was asked one whether or not he's the
Speaker 2: starting quarterback in Minnesota.
Speaker 10: We as a fan or even media found out, like,
Speaker 10: you're the guy, the the guy recently?
Speaker 5: When did you know?
Speaker 12: When did they tell you or when was that message
Speaker 12: to you?
Speaker 13: They haven't told men. I'm happy they didn't because I
Speaker 13: try to earn it every single day and I never
Speaker 13: want that to be given to me. And it's such
Speaker 13: a privileged and opportunity to give that give me that chance,
Speaker 13: and I'm just going to make the most about every
Speaker 13: single pay. All right.
Speaker 2: That's with Kay Adams up in Adams, JJ McCarthy. Look,
Speaker 2: it might be fake humility, but it's going over well
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. So you're looking at Aaron Rodgers and saying,
Speaker 2: I guess it's Pittsburgh. When is it going to be Pittsburgh?
Speaker 2: And what do they do in the draft, because I
Speaker 2: don't know if you say, hey, we're going to bring
Speaker 2: in Aaron, but by the way, we're going to use
Speaker 2: our first round. You imagine if they use a first
Speaker 2: round draft pick, I think the twenty first overall pick
Speaker 2: on Jackson Dart, so he would be with a team
Speaker 2: that uses their first round pick on another quarterback. Now
Speaker 2: do I think it makes sense for Pittsburgh If you
Speaker 2: really think Jackson Dart can play, then it makes sense.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it if it made sense in green
Speaker 2: Bay at the time, I didn't think it made sense
Speaker 2: because Aaron was playing well, he went on his revenge tour.
Speaker 2: You've never gotten in a wide receiver in the first round.
Speaker 2: And now did it turn out to be the correct call? Yes,
Speaker 2: green Bay makes a lot of correct calls, But at
Speaker 2: the time I thought, and even when we had Rogers
Speaker 2: on after the draft, I think that's when he decided
Speaker 2: that he was going to have a larger glass at tequila.
Speaker 2: After he realized that Jordan Love. The Packers have selected
Speaker 2: quarterback Jordan Love. Give me a little bit more tequila
Speaker 2: in there?
Speaker 4: All right? Poll question by the way, good morning.
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Speaker 2: for hour two? I can't believe there's.
Speaker 5: This much support for Jameis Winston, but that better pregame
Speaker 5: speech guy on the Giants right now, Jameis Winston still
Speaker 5: has ninety percent of that vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, odd that we came up with that, But we
Speaker 2: did think about who's going to motivate you in that
Speaker 2: Giant's locker room when you get ready to go out
Speaker 2: and face the Eagles. Is it Jamis Winston or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: Let's ride p giant.
Speaker 4: We're putting up there right now.
Speaker 5: Question Paully sent over if you could put one into place,
Speaker 5: a hard salary cap and baseball or a return to
Speaker 5: the old transfer system in college sports.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a little heavy. That's just what we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unexactly lighthearted sports radio conversation.
Speaker 4: I went hour one.
Speaker 5: You can't get much more lighthearted than Jamis Winston v.
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4: I mean so Russ goes to the Giants.
Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots got Stefan Diggs, which is the
Speaker 2: Patriots have had a sneaky good offseason.
Speaker 4: They have the fourth pick in the draft.
Speaker 2: Worst case scenario, they end up with Travis Hunter Abdul Carter.
Speaker 2: That's not a bad consolation prize. You feel like you
Speaker 2: do have your quarterback. They had a whole lot of
Speaker 2: money to spend. They had salary cap money and Drake
Speaker 2: may I thought, did a for a team that had
Speaker 2: nothing on offense. He made something with that team and
Speaker 2: they have added some pieces offensive lineman, defensive lineman. Now
Speaker 2: you have the fourth pick in the draft. Stefan Diggs
Speaker 2: was on his way to the Hall of Fame. He
Speaker 2: may still be on his way to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: But I just wonder about you know, when you he
Speaker 2: wasn't healthy, got banged up in Houston. You know whatever
Speaker 2: happened in Buffalo where you know he ended up in Houston.
Speaker 2: Now you end up in New England, still coming off surgery.
Speaker 2: But if you look at what he did in Buffalo,
Speaker 2: here's the most one hundred plus catch seasons in the
Speaker 2: first nine years of a career, Antonio Brown in six
Speaker 2: of his first nine years had over one hundred catches
Speaker 2: with Pittsburgh. Stefan Diggs has had five, Brandon Marshall had five,
Speaker 2: Wes Welker had five, DeVante Adams fo DeAndre Hopkins for
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison four and Keenan Allen four. Stat of the Day,
Speaker 2: yea the day, that's stat of the day.
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Speaker 4: Here comes that?
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Speaker 2: The official trading cards of the DP show Antonio Brown
Speaker 2: was going to the Hall of Fame. I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody had more catches over a five year window than
Speaker 2: he did, but he had six seasons. And look, I
Speaker 2: think when he got knocked out concussed by vontez Perfect,
Speaker 2: I think it seemed to change him. And I think
Speaker 2: we've seen Antonio Brown is not a normal person. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that hit did to him, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: I always thought it just he seemed different after that.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know him. I think we've had him
Speaker 2: on once or twice, maybe at the Super Bowl one time,
Speaker 2: charismatic dude. But times have changed though. You know when
Speaker 2: he freaked out, you know, left the building during a game,
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs is you know, he was in Minnesota. He
Speaker 2: wanted to have and get paid, have his moment, got
Speaker 2: it in Buffalo, and then all of a sudden, Buffalo
Speaker 2: seemed to be better, you know, by you know, getting
Speaker 2: rid of Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 4: It's hard to say that about a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Where you go, you know, the team got better because
Speaker 2: they got rid of a Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver.
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of these receivers are going
Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame. Antonio Brown, Stefan Diggs, Brandon Marshall,
Speaker 2: Wes Wilker, DeVante Adams is probably going to the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. DeAndre Hopkins, Marvin Harrison is already a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer.
Speaker 4: I don't know if catches matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I haven't been in the voting room or
Speaker 2: Peter King's the only one I really talked about what
Speaker 2: goes on in there and what they factor in. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's fluid when they start to
Speaker 2: look at Hall of Famers. Are you looking at the
Speaker 2: same thing now with wide receivers as you did five
Speaker 2: years ago? What about ten years ago? I remember when
Speaker 2: it was man, if you get to a thousand catches,
Speaker 2: it was like ten thousand yards for a running back.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the case in either situation. Are
Speaker 4: we going to have?
Speaker 2: How many running backs are Christian McCaffrey's not going to
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Said, I don't think so. Derrick Henry going to the
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any other running back that
Speaker 2: is playing now, Like Saquon Barkley would need to have
Speaker 2: three or four more great seasons, but he certainly got
Speaker 2: back on track in a big way. And you're playing
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia behind that offensive line with all those weapons,
Speaker 2: he could end up, you know, four or five fifteen
Speaker 2: hundred yard seasons, win a Super Bowl two thousand yards,
Speaker 2: then you'd be.
Speaker 4: A Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I start to look at these numbers and
Speaker 2: you go, I don't know what matters anymore, Because for
Speaker 2: a long long time, it felt like the running game
Speaker 2: was the short passing game, that we don't need a
Speaker 2: running back, We just need a running back who can
Speaker 2: block and also catch passes. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we got a couple of running backs who were getting fifteen, eighteen,
Speaker 2: two thousand yards, and now it's kind of back in vogue,
Speaker 2: and Ashton Genty could be one of those running backs
Speaker 2: who comes in and plays right away. When you get
Speaker 2: a comp of Emmitt Smith by one draft analyst. So
Speaker 2: when somebody says Ashton Genty and they go Emmitt Smith
Speaker 2: with speed, wooh.
Speaker 4: I draft him now.
Speaker 2: I voted for him for the Heisman, but you can't
Speaker 2: go wrong with who won. But in my mind, Ashton Genty,
Speaker 2: what he did? You know, he led his team then
Speaker 2: you know, ended up finished runner up and he'll probably
Speaker 2: be the seventh pick overall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pauli.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you look at the all time rushing leaders,
Speaker 6: active players on the list are Derrick Henry, Ezekiel Elliott's
Speaker 6: got nine thousand yards, but he's it was all done
Speaker 6: in his first four years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 6: Joe Mixon is an all purpose back. Saquan's at seven
Speaker 6: thousand yards, but he's more all purpose yardage. Aaron Jones,
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs is having.
Speaker 7: A very good career. Yeah, and it's early.
Speaker 6: Going back to Antonio Brown, he had a six year
Speaker 6: window where he had seven hundred catches in six years,
Speaker 6: all made the Pro Bowl every single time and had
Speaker 6: four first team All pros. If he didn't implode and
Speaker 6: left the sport due to injury, would he get the
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame Hall pass?
Speaker 2: Well, let's say he had seven years that he played
Speaker 2: in the NFL, or even six. You know, we we
Speaker 2: do have precedent here. You have Terrell Davis. Now we
Speaker 2: would always bring up Gail Sears, but Terrell Davis's modern day.
Speaker 2: You know, injury cut short his career. If Antonio Brown
Speaker 2: had an injury that cuts short his career, then maybe
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to factor in anything other than what
Speaker 2: you do on the football field. The voters are told
Speaker 2: that other sports they do factor in who you are,
Speaker 2: but I also have to factor in how you were
Speaker 2: as a teammate. That's the only other aspect with this
Speaker 2: that I can look at your performance. I also have
Speaker 2: to look at you give and then you take away,
Speaker 2: and that's going to hurt him. It's like tarall Owens,
Speaker 2: to me, was a first ballot Hall of Famer, but
Speaker 2: he didn't get in first ballot.
Speaker 4: I don't think what second or third time.
Speaker 2: Mar Michael Irvin, you know, to me, first balla Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer, but off the field and they're not supposed
Speaker 2: to be factoring that in. Will they factor that in
Speaker 2: with Antonio Brown? They will, and not that Stefan Diggs
Speaker 2: is in the Antonio Brown category of disruptive. But it
Speaker 2: didn't go well in Buffalo at the end. I mean,
Speaker 2: Houston just didn't work out. You thought with you know,
Speaker 2: those two young receivers there, and you bring in steph
Speaker 2: On Diggs with that quarterback, and wow, all right, you
Speaker 2: guys can challenge for the AFC title.
Speaker 9: Yes, Marvin ye And I think Stephan Diggs might be
Speaker 9: in the Tiki Barber category. They have the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 9: win a Super Bowl and they win without him, That's
Speaker 9: gonna hurt his chances. I think that's what hurts Tiki Barbi.
Speaker 9: If he stays another year and they win a Super
Speaker 9: Bowl with him as a big contributor, I think his
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame case is way stronger than it is now.
Speaker 4: Look at that, Marvin is hijacking Paul's Tiki Barber.
Speaker 7: Kind of thing. I've owned that for a decade.
Speaker 9: At the end, Tiki Barber was as good as any
Speaker 9: running back.
Speaker 7: But I think I got the point, Mark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, easy, he got piling on, piling on.
Speaker 7: Want to get some eighty five bears to and Emma.
Speaker 2: Paulie Dan is the Great Paulie thinks more highly of
Speaker 2: Tiki Barber's Hall of Fame chances than Tiki Barber does
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, what do you think, Tiki? I don't know, Paulie,
Speaker 4: what do you think?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what you did in the last
Speaker 2: five years and fifteen number of catchers? There's nobody else
Speaker 2: in America who talks about Tiki Barber's career.
Speaker 7: Maybe for a reason, we.
Speaker 2: Can't even get Tiki Barber on to talk about Tiki
Speaker 2: Barber's career. He's probably like, no, I don't want to
Speaker 2: do that, all right, Ernie, I gotta clean up my act.
Speaker 2: I got a professional broadcaster here coming up.
Speaker 4: That's my hair. Look, shouldn't have worn.
Speaker 2: This sweatshirt with Ernie'll probably have a bow tie on,
Speaker 2: you know, the all prophestsorial.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, look at that, Ernesto. He looks sloppy, just
Speaker 4: like me. Yes, I love it. All right, We'll take
Speaker 4: a break.
Speaker 2: The Great Ernie Johnson, Well, Johnny's coming up next here,
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2: He's a busy man, he's a Hall of Famer, he
Speaker 2: wins Sports emmyses. Ernie Johnson Junior.
Speaker 4: The third who joins us on the program. Great to
Speaker 4: have you back, Ernie. How are you?
Speaker 3: If I had a tail, it'd be a wagon day.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 2: You know, when you look at the different jobs that
Speaker 2: you have now you still get to work with Chuck,
Speaker 2: but when you do March maddness, compare that to working
Speaker 2: the NBA show.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the biggest difference is Clark Kellogg, who
Speaker 3: is He's so tied into the college game. He's a
Speaker 3: guy you just lean on like crazy because for us,
Speaker 3: you know, it's we pay attention to the college game,
Speaker 3: but our focus is the NBA. So you really need
Speaker 3: to have a guy like Clark or Seth Davis in
Speaker 3: the Atlanta studio or Jay Wright somebody like that. So
Speaker 3: that's been the biggest difference. But I think just in
Speaker 3: the terms of the vibe and how we do the show,
Speaker 3: I think it took a little while. But you know,
Speaker 3: the CBS with their you know, with the way they
Speaker 3: do things, they kind of said, Okay, yeah, you guys
Speaker 3: can you guys can do this. You know, you guys
Speaker 3: can be your NBA kind of guys and do your
Speaker 3: show that way. And that started, I mean the first year.
Speaker 3: You know, they wanted the guys in for a for
Speaker 3: a production meeting two hours before we went on the air,
Speaker 3: and chucksonvis that's that's a hard no. And so so
Speaker 3: once we got through that adjustment period that you know,
Speaker 3: we pretty much we pretty much do our thing.
Speaker 2: But you have situations and you had it recently with
Speaker 2: Charles that he might not be watching what he's supposed
Speaker 2: to watch and then you have to correct him. I
Speaker 2: don't know how college basketball fans react to that, whereas
Speaker 2: NBA fans like, we kind of expect Chuck to go
Speaker 2: this game sucks. But with college basketball, march madness can't
Speaker 2: exactly get away with that.
Speaker 3: Oh we're able to get away with it because we
Speaker 3: still had Kenny and Clark there who could cover that game.
Speaker 3: It's not like, not like we were going to ignore it,
Speaker 3: but it was. What was funny is that he looked
Speaker 3: down like he was going to really say something, like
Speaker 3: he had made a couple of notes and then realized
Speaker 3: he hadn't watched any of it. It's like it was.
Speaker 3: It was like a couple of years ago. Chuck has
Speaker 3: always taken great bride and his Oscar picks and says,
Speaker 3: you know, he never misses Juan And so we were
Speaker 3: talking about Best Picture, and nineteen eighteen was up for
Speaker 3: Best Picture, and so we're talking about it, and he says,
Speaker 3: I think the best picture is going to be nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 3: I said, well, tell me about it. He said, we
Speaker 3: know it's you, it's your basic you know what. I
Speaker 3: haven't seen it. So yeah, So moments like that, you're
Speaker 3: kind of you've kind of come to expect.
Speaker 2: When did you realize though, that this was different with
Speaker 2: how social media was viewing you guys, and the clips
Speaker 2: that are played over and over, like there's a seismic shift.
Speaker 2: When I did Sports Center, you watched Sports Center. Now
Speaker 2: people don't watch Sports Center as much as they'll take
Speaker 2: clips and watch them on social media. How did that
Speaker 2: affect how you guys did TNT.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it had a great effect. I
Speaker 3: know it made it more accessible for folks who didn't
Speaker 3: want to stay up till one thirty or two o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning. And watch the show, even though sometimes
Speaker 3: it would be replayed on NBA TV in the morning.
Speaker 3: But I mean, that's the world we live in. I
Speaker 3: mean that was and you're you and I are both
Speaker 3: old enough to remember t that you know, and there
Speaker 3: may have been times where you had a you did
Speaker 3: a show, and you didn't know exactly how it was
Speaker 3: received or if people thought something was funny, and the
Speaker 3: only way you knew was if Rudy Marsky wrote about
Speaker 3: it on Monday. You know, it was like and now
Speaker 3: everything is so instantaneous. It's like you throw a line
Speaker 3: out there and all of a sudden you're getting skewered
Speaker 3: or you're getting praised, and yeah, it's just a different world.
Speaker 3: But you you don't do it for the you know,
Speaker 3: how many likes you get or anything like that. You're
Speaker 3: just doing your job and that's how we that's how
Speaker 3: we do ours.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we didn't have social media. I just
Speaker 2: because we did it without knowing. As you said, if
Speaker 2: anybody's what we didn't know ratings, We didn't know anything,
Speaker 2: huh huh. And I remember the first time I found
Speaker 2: out that we might be might have a following or
Speaker 2: be popular. Is I went to the SP's and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you run into Jerry Seinfeld and you
Speaker 2: run into Bill Murray and they're reciting lines back to you,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'll be damn, there are people actually
Speaker 2: watching this show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: And I was. I was so you know my story
Speaker 3: along that vein is being out in LA for a
Speaker 3: playoff game, and walked away shaking my head because Denzel
Speaker 3: Washington knew who I was. He's like, I watch you
Speaker 3: guys all the time. I was like, really, that's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So there were those moments that kind of reach up
Speaker 3: and grab you, and it's like, I guess we do
Speaker 3: have a lot of folks who were watching the show.
Speaker 2: Is Ernie Johnson, Hall of Famer, Turner Sports studio host
Speaker 2: inside the NBA State of College Sports. I know that
Speaker 2: nil transfer portal is a topic of conversation. Where do
Speaker 2: you stand with this?
Speaker 3: I think that I think we all agreed that something
Speaker 3: had to be done and that and that there had
Speaker 3: to be a way that the college athletes who were
Speaker 3: who were making all this money for these schools needed
Speaker 3: to be compensated. One, you know, some way. But then
Speaker 3: it just we just went from hey, this that's a
Speaker 3: good idea to all right, whatever you want, and it
Speaker 3: was like a zero to sixty and zero to a
Speaker 3: one hundred and and so that's how I kind of
Speaker 3: look at it is that, yeah, we we all kind
Speaker 3: of agreed. But then are there should there be some limitations?
Speaker 3: Should or is this going to just price up the
Speaker 3: smaller schools out because they don't they can't lure anybody
Speaker 3: into their into their places. So yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: think just in that regard that yeah, we're we just
Speaker 3: kind of let it happen without without any regulation. And
Speaker 3: then and and the transfer portal is I would not
Speaker 3: want to be a coach. And I can certainly see
Speaker 3: where guys like Tony Bennett and Jay Wright and others
Speaker 3: have said, you know, it's enough of this. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna work my ass off and recruit this kid
Speaker 3: and he's going to come to my place. And now
Speaker 3: I've got to keep recruiting him as he's in my program,
Speaker 3: because he's just going to leave, you know, if he's
Speaker 3: not getting the run that he wants or whatever. So no,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's changed everything dramatically for sure, and and
Speaker 3: and it's always strange to look down as I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I'm doing my numbers and my rosters and that kind
Speaker 3: of thing when I'm getting ready in the months leading
Speaker 3: up to the say wow, this kid's been, and Kyle,
Speaker 3: this guy's been. This is the sixth season, you know,
Speaker 3: And so yeah, that's that's kind of been the amazing
Speaker 3: part of me.
Speaker 4: Did you fill out a bracket?
Speaker 3: I did? And it's really good. Oh, it's really good.
Speaker 3: I think I could have it right here. I've been
Speaker 3: in New York. I've got a two week I got
Speaker 3: a two week stay in New York for this. I
Speaker 3: did not go back to Atlanta and then come back
Speaker 3: in between the rounds because all I'm doing is basically
Speaker 3: working on the show. So, Okay, this is really good
Speaker 3: for your show that I'm rifling through here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good radio.
Speaker 3: Let's see one, two, three, four, five, six. Okay. I
Speaker 3: got ten of the sixteen Sweet sixteen, seven out of
Speaker 3: eight Elite eight, an entire final four Jill, which is
Speaker 3: not bad in my in my opinion, I've got I've
Speaker 3: got Florida beating uh, Michigan State and Duke beating Tennessee
Speaker 3: in the final four.
Speaker 4: How about you let.
Speaker 3: Meet Does that meet with your approval? Yeah?
Speaker 4: But why don't you let me pat you on the back,
Speaker 4: not you pat yourself on the back that.
Speaker 3: You know. I think that's a great idea. I don't
Speaker 3: know what. I don't know what came over.
Speaker 4: Like, do you have sports Emmys that you pack with
Speaker 4: you when you go to New.
Speaker 2: York for you know, just so you can be in
Speaker 2: familiar surroundings, just.
Speaker 3: Just a few of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I thought, You know what?
Speaker 3: You know what's bad? It's like packing for for eight
Speaker 3: shows and two weeks up here. So I like, I've
Speaker 3: been living in this all star hoodie the whole the
Speaker 3: whole time in New York. So you you didn't really
Speaker 3: expect me to get up and put a bow tie on.
Speaker 2: No, I'm glad you didn't, because I had a sweatshirt
Speaker 2: on and I go, oh my god, I got Ernie
Speaker 2: Johnson on.
Speaker 3: I live in these I would if I didn't have
Speaker 3: to get dressed up. This would be me all the time.
Speaker 4: Why don't you do a casual broadcast one day?
Speaker 3: Mmm?
Speaker 4: You guys get to do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Why why should we do a casual brook Why not
Speaker 3: we have certain standards.
Speaker 4: Oh you do? Okay, you know what, guys.
Speaker 3: The other guys are casual sometimes.
Speaker 2: Well, Charles is always making fun of Anthony Davis. You know,
Speaker 2: street clothes, So why don't you guys have a street
Speaker 2: clothes show and homage to Anthony Davis?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know if it would come off.
Speaker 2: As why what's the biggest storyline the rest of the
Speaker 2: season to you?
Speaker 4: In the NBA?
Speaker 14: In the NBA, you know, I I think things are
Speaker 14: kind of looking a little bit clear cut as far
Speaker 14: as who's going to finish where and who they're who
Speaker 14: they might play.
Speaker 3: I think my biggest question is, is okay See ready
Speaker 3: for this? You know it's because obviously they have got
Speaker 3: a squad and SGA is unbelievable. Now can you get
Speaker 3: over that hump and get to that Western Conference final?
Speaker 3: And then can you get to the NBA finals? So
Speaker 3: I think, you know, is Okac ready for this, for
Speaker 3: this step? Because we already know Boston's ready for that step?
Speaker 3: Is Cleveland ready for that step? You know? Does a
Speaker 3: great regular season translate? So those to me are the
Speaker 3: big questions because I don't see a whole lot of
Speaker 3: other folks who could win the title. You know, I
Speaker 3: could see Boston in the finals. I could see Cleveland
Speaker 3: maybe in the finals if they're you know, if they're
Speaker 3: at home and if they get a break here and there.
Speaker 3: But I, you know, out West it's okay See. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if Houston is ready for that yet.
Speaker 3: It's been fun watching them. But and and you can't
Speaker 3: count Denver out, you know, when jokers healthy. But I
Speaker 3: think the question, yeah, the question is, is okay See
Speaker 3: ready for this?
Speaker 2: When do you know when Barkley is truly upset, truly
Speaker 2: upset like mad?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know that I've ever really seen
Speaker 3: Chuck very mad. Chuck is you know, Chuck comes in
Speaker 3: every night the same way. Hey let's have some fun tonight,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I I haven't really seen him
Speaker 3: really hot. Yeah, Shack, I've seen Shack get hot. You know.
Speaker 3: One night was when we were going, you know, he
Speaker 3: got mad because Chuck took all his time and then
Speaker 3: he just kind of clammed up and he didn't want
Speaker 3: to talk, he didn't want to be part of the show.
Speaker 3: And and and we've had we had a night where
Speaker 3: he was late for a show and and he and
Speaker 3: I kind of talked and I said, man, he got
Speaker 3: a beam. Man, I left three hours ever the traffic
Speaker 3: was there. And then and then the next day he
Speaker 3: didn't even talk to me. It's like I would look
Speaker 3: at it. I looked at him working with the show,
Speaker 3: and I'm asking him a question and I'm getting three
Speaker 3: word answers. And then I finally just had to do
Speaker 3: in a commercial break, just had to get up and
Speaker 3: give him a big old hug and say, man, you
Speaker 3: know I love you. You know that. You know I
Speaker 3: don't mean anything by that, you know. And then and
Speaker 3: then he was okay. But yeah, there have been a
Speaker 3: couple of times where he gots he'll get a little sensitive.
Speaker 3: I don't know how mad he'll get, but he'll clamb
Speaker 3: up a little bit, and then you're then you're pulling teeth.
Speaker 4: It's like you're a parent there.
Speaker 3: The way it's been best described at is that I'm
Speaker 3: the dad driving across country with these three guys in
Speaker 3: the back seat saying one more peep out of you,
Speaker 3: and I'm turning this thing around.
Speaker 4: Don't make me come back there.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Don't make me come back there. Well, who would make
Speaker 2: you more nervous, Chuck or Shank. I guess Shack, you know,
Speaker 2: given the signs make me more nervous.
Speaker 3: What if I if I were to pull that? Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: he's shaq Is. I have no fear of Shack at all. Shack.
Speaker 3: Shack and I have a special relationship and he always has.
Speaker 3: It dates back to when I went and did a
Speaker 3: story on him when he was at LSU and he
Speaker 3: was living in San Antonio, and he's I remember that
Speaker 3: day in nineteen nine when you can't and it really
Speaker 3: wasn't nineteen eighty nine, it was nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 14: But but yeah, I think I think that.
Speaker 3: We you know, we had a great thing going with
Speaker 3: that bunch, you know, we really have.
Speaker 4: And so and what do you what are you doing now?
Speaker 4: What are you going to do?
Speaker 3: What am I going to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Are you following everybody?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That's I mean, this is the plan. This is
Speaker 3: the plan. That's we're going to continue to do the show. Okay,
Speaker 3: and but it's just not going to air on TNT
Speaker 3: because the NBA on TNT is no more after after
Speaker 3: these playoffs. But we'll still do the show in Atlanta, Okay,
Speaker 3: Due'll still do it with the same production crewp it'll
Speaker 3: just air on ABC, Slash ESPN on certain.
Speaker 2: Nights, Okay, because I think it looked kind of shaky
Speaker 2: there for a while that we didn't know what direction.
Speaker 2: You probably were left out in the cold too on this.
Speaker 2: But and then if it was moving out of Atlanta,
Speaker 2: would you continue to do it?
Speaker 11: Me?
Speaker 4: No, that was a breaker.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's home and it's and so yeah, I think, look,
Speaker 3: I can kind of see the finish line. You know,
Speaker 3: it's I remember when Don maguire hired me at Turner
Speaker 3: back in nineteen eighty nine, and he was like, May
Speaker 3: seven eight years in that studio chair. That's all. You know,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna want any more than that. Now it's
Speaker 3: been thirty five and and so there are a lot
Speaker 3: of things to do out there, and and so I
Speaker 3: can't wait for next year, can't wait to can't wait
Speaker 3: to stay with the guys. But uh, and then we'll
Speaker 3: just see for the years after that, if you know
Speaker 3: what comes up and what I what I feel like doing.
Speaker 2: Adam Lefko is listening intently on that that last hand left.
Speaker 3: Adam LEFTO is great. Yeah, he's really really, really solid
Speaker 3: and so but it's not. No, don't don't get this twisted.
Speaker 3: It's not like I'm gonna hang We're gonna hang up
Speaker 3: here and suddenly I I have retired. No. You know
Speaker 3: a lot of times when you're running a marathon from
Speaker 3: you can see the finish line from a long way away.
Speaker 3: Not that I have any marathon experience, so it's not
Speaker 3: like I'm not like, I'm in this sprint and the
Speaker 3: finish line is eight meters away, and it's just that
Speaker 3: I can. When you get to this point, it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, let's see how this is looking.
Speaker 4: They will survive without us, which is amazing, Ernie. They will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think the medium will continue? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I've been told, hey, they'll survive
Speaker 2: without you, so I'm going to take.
Speaker 4: Their word for it. I'm done in three.
Speaker 3: Years, all right, So you've made the decision three years? Yes,
Speaker 3: How old will you be in three years?
Speaker 2: I will be seventy one, Yeah, but seventy one in
Speaker 2: three years. Why don't we go out together?
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that? That would just tug at the heart.
Speaker 2: But you go first, You go first, and then the
Speaker 2: next day I'll do it. I'm going to retire I
Speaker 2: think in Atlanta after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: All right, and.
Speaker 15: Well maybe we could do it at CNN Center where
Speaker 15: you Yeah, you have some roots. Yeah, now we're talking. Yes,
Speaker 15: it'll be emotional. Yes, yes, that'll be great. I'll do
Speaker 15: another headline sports. You know, I'll do one more for
Speaker 15: the road. Oh man, maybe we're bring in van.
Speaker 2: Or all right and get Earl to do a CNN
Speaker 2: headline sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: Phil Van Whatever happened to Phil van Horn?
Speaker 2: By the way, I think he became a baseball coach,
Speaker 2: maybe in California.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Phil was my colleague and a friend of yours.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Phil Van today? Yeah, I think he married
Speaker 2: a song girl from USC.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You do a lot more than I do.
Speaker 4: Well, I keep up on the song girls at USC.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying Phil has got it.
Speaker 3: Phil is somewhere right now saying, oh.
Speaker 4: Are they talking about me?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Good to talk to you. Have fun and thanks again.
Speaker 3: Ernie, Always a pleasure, DP, Always a pleasure.
Speaker 4: That's Ernie Johnson