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Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the league, Mr Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fun one. I've been looking

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Speaker 1: This guy just deserves to have a ton of praise

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Speaker 1: this past year. An unassailable playoff run to wipe clean

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Speaker 1: a rough couple of years, rough couple of years that

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Speaker 1: out of any dribble combination, he could take it off

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Speaker 1: of any catch. That is what allows Steph to be

432
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Speaker 1: such a dominant pull up jump shooter. There is fluidity

433
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Speaker 1: between his handle and his jump shot. The two are

434
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Speaker 1: always connected in a way that he can transition between

435
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Speaker 1: the two at any time. UM. Steph averaged one point

436
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: two points per possession and isolation, but he only attempted

437
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: one point eight isolations per game. That's super low volume

438
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: for some perspective. O. G N and Noby for the

439
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors this year attempted more isolations per game. UM.

440
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Speaker 1: This is just because Steph is really picky. Like, Steph

441
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: knows that isolating is not his best ability because he's

442
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Speaker 1: not the best type of athlete in the world, so

443
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: he's very picky to wait for the right kind of matchup,

444
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: typically against bigs. He did a lot of this in

445
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Speaker 1: the finals when he would get Al Horford and Robert

446
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: Williams on switches. When Steph gets a mismatch, particularly against

447
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: a slow footed big, he's going to barbecue them, typically

448
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: to the tune of one point two points per possession,

449
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: which is insane. A lot of people would consider this

450
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Speaker 1: a weakness, like, hey, steps not a great isolation player

451
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Speaker 1: against other big you know, or other great perimeter defensive players.

452
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Speaker 1: To me, I view it as a strength. Why would

453
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Speaker 1: you play to your weakness. Why would you try to

454
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Speaker 1: isolate wings and guards that are great defensively for no

455
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Speaker 1: reason when you're an excellent off ball player and excellent

456
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Speaker 1: pick and role player and excellent at isolating bigs. That's

457
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: just good shot selection, is all that is. I do

458
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Speaker 1: not view that as a weakness for step So, as

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Speaker 1: promised from yesterday's show with Kevin durant Uh, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about moving without the basketball, which is one of

461
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Speaker 1: the most important skills for staff. If you guys remember

462
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Speaker 1: when we talked about Dame Lillard. This is the biggest

463
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Speaker 1: thing that separates the two of them. Dame Lillard is

464
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Speaker 1: just about as effective with the basketball in his hands

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Speaker 1: as Step, but there's a giant chasm between the two

466
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Speaker 1: of them as players, and that's entirely made up by

467
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Speaker 1: what Step does without the basketball moving and what he

468
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Speaker 1: does defensively. The reason why moving without the basketball is

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Speaker 1: so important is it's easier than dribbling. Do you guys

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Speaker 1: remember what happened in the finals when the Celtics were

471
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Speaker 1: running around like chickens with their heads cut off, dribbling

472
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Speaker 1: the basketball into traffic and turning the basketball over when

473
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: it's physical, when the refs are swallowing the whistle, it's

474
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Speaker 1: tough to dribble through traffic. So one of the things

475
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Speaker 1: that stuff is figured out is when he before, before

476
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Speaker 1: he gets into trouble. If he gets rid of the basketball,

477
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: he can run where he needs to go, and then

478
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if if someone's reaching like crazy to

479
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Speaker 1: try to knock the ball away, he doesn't actually have

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Speaker 1: the basketball. And most importantly, moving without the basketball takes

481
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Speaker 1: advantage of a very basic human instinct on basketball Defensively,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys typically do when you're playing basketball?

483
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Speaker 1: At at the rec center, up at the l A

484
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Speaker 1: fitness or up at the twenty four hour fitness wherever

485
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Speaker 1: it is that you play, you're guarding your man because

486
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Speaker 1: he has the basketball. Let's say he drives to the

487
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Speaker 1: left and you cut him off and he picks up

488
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: his dribble and he passes it back out. What's the

489
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Speaker 1: first thing you typically do? You relax because moving your

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Speaker 1: feet when there's a ball handler attacking you, his hard

491
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Speaker 1: and it's fatiguing, and you relax because that's your opportunity

492
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: to gain energy for you to handle again, handle defensively again.

493
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Speaker 1: Guess what step does. Steph knows that that's the perfect

494
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Speaker 1: time to continue to move. His best given go player

495
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Speaker 1: in the league. He's taking advantage of defenders instinctually relaxing

496
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Speaker 1: when they think the job is done. The best example you, guys,

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Speaker 1: that I could give to you guys of this is

498
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Speaker 1: the classics Steph corner three play where he kind of

499
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Speaker 1: drives into the paint, the defense kind of collapses around him,

500
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Speaker 1: and there will be a release valve somewhere in the

501
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: short corner, typically Draymond or Kivan Looney, someone like that.

502
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: He will pass it to that short corner and not

503
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Speaker 1: even consider stopping, can continue to sprint out following his

504
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: pass to the corner, and then Draymond or Cavaloni will

505
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: pass it between their legs back to step in the

506
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: corner and he gets wide open looks out of that

507
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Speaker 1: all the time. Why because when he drives into the

508
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Speaker 1: paint and he gives up the basketball, it's human instinct

509
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Speaker 1: for players to give up or to rely acts and

510
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: to get out of their defensive stance. And if you

511
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: do that for a split second, if you come up

512
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Speaker 1: out of your stance, you lose your mobility. That's why

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Speaker 1: I tell young players all the time, like when you

514
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: pump fake, don't ever come out of your athletic stance

515
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: and a pump fake, because even if you get the

516
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: defender to jump, you're out of your stance and now

517
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: you've got to get back down into your stance so

518
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: you can explode. The same thing goes defensively. The second

519
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: you stand up out of your defensive stance, you lose

520
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: a second of mobility. And that's when Steph strikes. That's

521
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: when he gets that little bit of separation, and he

522
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: got such a quick release that there's not enough time

523
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Speaker 1: for you to recover. I'm gonna talk a little bit

524
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Speaker 1: more about moving without the basketball here in just a second.

525
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Speaker 1: As we talked about steps playmaking, So Steph can pass

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Speaker 1: the basketball. In two thousand fourteen and two thousand fifteen,

527
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: those two seasons combined, he averaged eight point one assists

528
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: per game. He hasn't come close to that since, but

529
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Speaker 1: that's what he averaged back then. So Steph can be

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Speaker 1: Dame Lillard. He can be a heliocentric playmate maker. He

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Speaker 1: just doesn't want to be because he knows that he

532
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Speaker 1: can have the same type of impact moving without the

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Speaker 1: basketball as a decoy. One of the most common things

534
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Speaker 1: that I've had you guys Steph fans throwing the comments

535
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: over the course of the series is every time I

536
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: bring up something like, hey, the top four playmakers in

537
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: the league are Lebron, Luca Yokich, and Chris Paul and

538
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: then there's kind of like a gap, and then you

539
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: have your James Hardens and guys like that who are

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Speaker 1: beneath him. Right, that's true, But it's also true what

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Speaker 1: you guys have been saying that Steph belongs in that

542
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: list too. Now I don't think he belongs in that list.

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Speaker 1: As a playmaker in the sense that like an on

544
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Speaker 1: ball passer, because he's a very good passer, but he's

545
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Speaker 1: not the same level as your Lebron's and your Lucas

546
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: and your Yoki is right, but he is equal in

547
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: impact with his gravity. So an honorary fifth member of

548
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Speaker 1: those top playmakers in the league is Steph. He just

549
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: does it without the basketball. This is where STEP's gravity

550
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: becomes a thing such a deadly shooter that teams panic

551
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: chase him, and when defenders need to make quick decisions,

552
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: if they see two options, they're gonna error towards Steph.

553
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: This frequently leads to multiple defenders going with Steph as

554
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: opposed to staying with their actual assignment, and in in a

555
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: lot of cases they lose sight of their defensive scheme

556
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: and they go off script and someone ends up wide open.

557
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: That's every bit is impactful, as Lebron driving and kicking

558
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: to a shooter, as Luca driving and kicking to a shooter,

559
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: as Yo Kids posting up and throwing a beautiful cross

560
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: court pass that hits Michael Porter Jr. Right in the

561
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: in the shooting pocket. It's just as impactful, just without

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Speaker 1: the passing. So again, do I think Steph is as

563
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Speaker 1: good of a passer as Lebron and as Luca and

564
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: Yokich and those guys. No, I don't, but he's every

565
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: bit as impactful, more impactful as an offensive engine because

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Speaker 1: what he does with his gravity, and this is where

567
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: he's moving without the basketball becomes so important. It's not

568
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: just so that he can generate open shots for himself,

569
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Speaker 1: which he does. Steph's relentless in perpetual motion off the

570
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: basketball is constantly warping the defense. And as he's constantly

571
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: warping the defense, he is constantly creating four on three

572
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: opportunities at a minimum, if not even more crazy opportunities,

573
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: sometimes even one on o opportunities for easy dunks under

574
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Speaker 1: the basket. This is where Golden State role players become

575
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Speaker 1: so important. We talked about this a little bit earlier

576
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Speaker 1: in the show. This is why it's not just about

577
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Speaker 1: star power. It's about fit and players fitting with their scheme.

578
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: This is why Russell Westbrook didn't fit with Lebron James, right.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about your overall talent. It's about your

580
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Speaker 1: ability as a unit to fill all the responsibilities that

581
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Speaker 1: a basketball team has to fill in the previous season,

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Speaker 1: Golden State targeted some discounted players like Kelly h Bray,

583
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Speaker 1: like Camp bays Moore that struggled with decision making. And

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Speaker 1: so even though you know, like camp Baysemore shot over

585
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: from three that season, like you think, oh, like that's

586
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: a good fit, right, No, because the Golden State system

587
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: doesn't depend on shooting nearly as much as it does

588
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: on playmaking and ball handling from their role players and

589
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: basketball like you, that's the huge inverse and difference between

590
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: the Luca lebron Yokich led systems and the Staph led system.

591
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: Those guys are content on collapsing things in the paint

592
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: and they need shooters to make plays. The openings in

593
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: the Golden State system are around the basket, and so

594
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: what you need are players that can run quick four

595
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: on three's, quick three on two's, quick two on ones

596
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: without turning the basketball over and getting layups and dunks

597
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: excuse me, around the rim and making that transition last

598
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: year to this year and putting smarter, more high i

599
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Q players into those spots that was a huge part

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Speaker 1: of white Golden State was so much more successful. And

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a concept um that I find super

602
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: fascinating about Golden State because it makes them so different

603
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: from the other teams around the league. Two other things

604
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: that I want to talk about with Steff with strengths. First,

605
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: his defense. So the story here is early in his career,

606
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: Steff was a bad defensive player, not a big shock.

607
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: He was an outstanding offensive player, and he doesn't have

608
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: great physical tools. Those two are gonna pretty frequently combined

609
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: to making a bad defensive player. But to his credit,

610
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Speaker 1: him and Clay Thompson two thousand fourteen, I believe for

611
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: the FIBA World Cup if I remember correctly, or the

612
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: Feeble World Championships, whatever they call it, both Clay and

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00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Steph we're struggling defensively in camp and there was talk

614
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't be able to be in the rotation

615
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: during that World Cup team unless they figured out things

616
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: on the defensive end. That was the summer where both

617
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: of those eyes embraced it up here, which is step one.

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Speaker 1: Take on the work. Understand that resources have to be

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Speaker 1: devoted in that direction for you to become a great

620
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: defensive player. Now for Clay Thompson, he actually became one

621
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Speaker 1: of the best defensive wings in the league. Why is

622
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: that because he's laterally quick and he's got good size,

623
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: and so he actually became an all defense like impact

624
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: defensive player. Steph Curry didn't have the physical tools to

625
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: do that, but he did become an above average defensive player.

626
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Helps that he's a little bit bigger and stronger than

627
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: most of the guards around the league. Like he's six

628
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: ft three, He's got a good amount of muscle mass

629
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Speaker 1: that's going to help him be a good positional defender

630
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: even against some bigger wings. But now is He's never

631
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: gonna be an impact defensive player. We'll talk about that

632
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more when we get to his weaknesses.

633
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: But him converting the small guard prototype, which is almost

634
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: always a bad defensive player, into an above average defensive

635
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: player is one of the most underrated and most important

636
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: things that allow out the Golden State dynasty to exist.

637
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Just that one thing. If he had just let that slip,

638
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: if he just didn't care about that, this might all

639
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: not have come together. And and that's a credit to

640
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: Steph and just how important the defensive end of the

641
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: floor is. And the last, but not least steps leadership.

642
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I think step is the best leader in basketball. You know,

643
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Speaker 1: I talked about how Lebron is the best guy I'd

644
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: want if I had a really good team that had

645
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Speaker 1: championship aspirations and all that and so on and so forth.

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00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: But regardless of circumstance, great team, good team, bad team,

647
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: horrible team, whatever it is, I can't think of a

648
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: better guy than Steph Curry. There is no passive aggressiveness,

649
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: there is no bad body language. He knows how to

650
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: handle young players, he knows how to handle veteran players,

651
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: veteran players like Andreago Dolla worships the ground that he

652
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: walks on. He's coachable. You can ask him to put

653
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: in the hard work and do things that other stars

654
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: don't want to do around this league. He's great at

655
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: managing personalities. You could not pick a better player to

656
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: put into this position, and he demonstrated that over the

657
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: course of the last three a few years, in a

658
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: bunch of different circumstances, you know, two thousand sixteen, embracing

659
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, making him feel like he was on common

660
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: ground with him, even if other ex external factors ended

661
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: up eventually getting to kd weathering the storm in when

662
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: things weren't going his way. There was no pouting. There

663
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: He didn't make a scene, he didn't bring wine to

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00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: the bench. He was he was a rock and I

665
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: think that's a lot of credit to him. And it's

666
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: funny because it's not it's he's not soft like the

667
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: dudes a psychopath. One of my favorite Twitter accounts, friend

668
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: of mine uh goes by Bobby Flabin, big Warriors fan.

669
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: He calls him Bundy, like the serial killer. And that's

670
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: kind of the way I see Steph two. The dude

671
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: is a complete in total psychopath who wants to snatch

672
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: your heart out when he's outwardly focusing his energy on

673
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: the opponent. Internally, he's as steady and sound and and

674
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: never too high, never too low type of person that

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00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: you could have in that spot. And and that's a

676
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: huge credit to him. Like I've always said, you could

677
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: not pick a better foundational piece for an extended dynasty

678
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: like a Spurs or like a Warriors than a guy

679
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: like him, because of how steady he is on the

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00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: lows and the highs. And that's why I've compared him

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00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: to Tim Duncan. He's a better version of Tim Duncan alright,

682
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: moving on the steps weaknesses. So there's only two because

683
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: that's how well rounded stuff is. Now one of them

684
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: is pretty significant. I'll go with the light, the small one. First.

685
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: He's loose with the basketball, doesn't take great care of

686
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: the basketball. He gets a little bit cute with his

687
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: drible combination sometimes and we'll try some ballsy passes and

688
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: things like that in in in high leverage situations, and

689
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: it's burned stuff before see the two thousands sixteen finals.

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: This manifests mostly when he's handling traps, and his size

691
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: can be a little bit of an issue here. He's

692
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: very good at navigating traps in the aggregate, but he

693
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: is prone to some turnovers in that situation just because

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00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: of his lack of size. That's a small weakness. This

695
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: is STEP's only other weaknesses and it's a big one,

696
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: and it's the reason why he's not number one on

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00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: this list, and it's the reason why he may never

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00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: have been number one um. But it's again it has

699
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: to be addressed here. So Steph is not capable of

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: leaving a physical imprint on the game on either end

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00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: of the floor. So in isolation situations, he needs a

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00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: quickness mismatch. He needs to get a big on a

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00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: switch in order to consistently generate good shots. Yes he

704
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: can cook wins. Yes he can score against Kauai, Yes

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00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: he can score against Katie. Yes he can score against

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00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: all the best perimeter defenders in the league. I'm not

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00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: saying he can't, but it's harder for him to do

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00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: that than the other big like Lebron, Katie Kawai, Luca Jannest.

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Those guys still feel like they can consistently get quality

710
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: shots against each other in individual matchups because of their

711
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: physical tools. Steph typically needs to get big guys on

712
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: switches to become a highly effective ISO player. To his credit,

713
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: that's why he doesn't mess around with ISOs that often.

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00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: That's why he's a super low volume isolation player compared

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00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: to his peers around the league. He's very selective with

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00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: the way he does that. That's the only way it

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00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: impacts offensively. The physical imprint thing is really on the

718
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: defensive end of the floor, so his ceiling, with his

719
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: effort and focus on the defensive end of the floor

720
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: is above average. He can never be a better defender

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00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: than what he is right now, which is serviceable in

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00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: a good defensive scheme. Guys like Janice Kevin Durant Lebron

723
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: more so and his prime, but Lebron in general, Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 1: They are capable of dominating games defensively. They are impact

725
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: defensive players. They can swing outcomes with what they do defensively,

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00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: which is something that step cannot do. This is the

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: biggest reason why I have Janice ahead of Steph number

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Speaker 1: one on this list. Janice is deeply impactful on the

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00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: defensive end of the floor. He can erase well run

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00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: offenses by himself. I gave the example of Luca having

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00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: to pull him into isolation defense because he was blowing

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00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: everything up with his help on the back end. You

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00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: guys probably remember playing Finals A very famous playing Janice's

734
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: career drop coverage against Devin Booker and DeAndre Ayton. Or

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00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: he's up high enough to dissuade Devin Booker from taking

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00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: the shot and force him to throw a lot, but

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00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: still turn and recover any race eight and at the rim.

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00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: That is using his physical tools to dominate a basketball

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00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: game on the defensive end of the floor, even on

740
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: offense when when his shots not falling, when things are

741
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: not going his way offensively, Janice can bulldoze his way

742
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: to thirty five points a game because of his physical tools.

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00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: That's it. That that those that's the only weakness I

744
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: can really hammer home with Steph. And it's a credit

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00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: to him because all of those other guys at the

746
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: top of the list were capable of inflicting their physicality

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Speaker 1: on the game in a way that it was literally

748
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: a huge chunk of their impact on winning. And Steph

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00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: without those tools is gonna be extremely high on my

750
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: all time rankings because of how good he is in

751
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: everything else. So it's a credit to Steph. But that

752
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: is the difference between him and Lebron when he was

753
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: at his peak, or him and Janice when he was

754
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: at his peak, is those guys can just think about

755
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: all the defensive moment it's of Lebron's career. You know

756
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: what he did defensively to the Spurs in the two

757
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen finals, what he did defensively to the Warriors

758
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen eracing but probably would have amounted

759
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: to the game winning layup from Montrea Guadala. And again,

760
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: like Steph has overcome this to get where he's gotten.

761
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: But that's the one big red flag with him, that's

762
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: the one big weakness on offense. He can't inflict his physicality,

763
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: and on defense, he can't inflict his physicality. All right,

764
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: moving on to greatest hopes, So it's hard to hope

765
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: for more. I mean, his career is unassailable. Now, there

766
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a little bit of a question mark,

767
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: an unfair one in my opinion, but there was a

768
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: little bit of question mark about whether or not he'd

769
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: be able to carry a team. He resolved that this

770
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: year resoundingly. Andrew Wiggins is your best player, and you

771
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: win a champion your best teammate, and you win a championship,

772
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: you're in a select few. You're in some select company. There.

773
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: What becomes really interesting for Steph is his goat case.

774
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: Now this is not relevant now, but let's say, for

775
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, that the Warriors win two additional titles. Okay,

776
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: he's not going to have the long, extended success that

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00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: Lebron has. He's not going to have the short, unrelenting

778
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: dominance that Michael Jordan had. But what he could have

779
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: is a better version of Tim Duncan's career, an extended

780
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: window of a dynasty where maybe he was never the

781
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: best player in the world, but he was always right

782
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: there in his consistent success over that span in the

783
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: example that he set for his organization led to a

784
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: lot of success. Now, again, this is all in the

785
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: eye of the beholder. Lebron fans will be like, I'd

786
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: rather have twenty years of this. MJ fans are like, dude,

787
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: six titles in eight years, that's dominance, That's what I want.

788
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: But there will be a case for Steph and the

789
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: case will be dynasty Bedrock, Dynasty Foundation, and he was

790
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: literally the core piece that made everything work for arguably

791
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: the best dynasty and the most talented era in NBA history.

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00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: That will be his case. Greatest fears. My greatest fear

793
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: for Steff is that he doesn't get an opportunity to

794
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: win that fifth and sixth title because of Golden State

795
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: betting their future on some iffy prospects. So as we

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00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: go down the line, Jordan Pool had a really good

797
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: season last year, But I kind of think Jordan Pool

798
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: has a ceiling of being a fringe All Star. He's

799
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: very bad defensively right now compared to most of the

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00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: players that are above him in league standing. Although he

801
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: was functional from time to time for Golden State, and

802
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: he's not again impactful enough with his physicality offensively to

803
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: become more efficient, much more efficient than he is right now.

804
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a safe bet for Jordan Pool is

805
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: he'll get He'll make a few All Star teams for

806
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: Golden State. Jonathan Cominga has tantalizing potential, but he also

807
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: could be the lesser version of Jeff Green idding Moses

808
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Moody is a role player. And then James Wiseman. Yeah,

809
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: he could beat Kevin Garnett, but he also could be

810
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: something a hell of a lot less than that. Now,

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00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: that all might pan out fine, because if Comingo becomes

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00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: a dominant two way wing and Jordan Pool is a

813
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: fringe All Star and James Wiseman becomes KG Light, the

814
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: Warriors are gonna be really good. They'll be fine. But

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00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot of uh, there's a lot

816
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: of iffiness there. It could go either way, and if

817
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: that goes south, the Warriors could be in a situation

818
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: where they have a lot of money on the books

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00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: without a lot of talent. The second thing that scares

820
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: me is Clay and Draymond's bodies. A Obviously, with the

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00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: back to back catastrophic injuries, Draymond has been having back

822
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: stuff recently. If those guys age fast, that could be

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00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: another thing that closes this window early, so hopefully for

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00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Steph's sake. Um, those two things don't happen alright, biggest

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00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: what if in Steph's career? So this is an interesting one.

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00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: There's and there's a bunch of them, just like with

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00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: all these other players, like, oh, what if you know,

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00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: Draymond Green doesn't get suspended? What if, uh, you know,

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00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: what if Kevin Durant never comes to Golden State. There's

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00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of what IF's, right. The one that I

831
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: was thinking of is what if Golden State gave up

832
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: on his ankles? From what I understand, and of course

833
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: there's conflicting reporting with all of this stuff, but from

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00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: what I understand, there was a decision point for the

835
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: Warriors where they were trying to decide whether to stick

836
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: with Monte Ellis or to lean into Steph Curry moving forward,

837
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: and cooler heads prevailed and they decided to go with

838
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. They made him the four year, forty four

839
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: million dollar offer or whatever it was, and the rest

840
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: is history. But there's a version of that story where

841
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: they go his ankles are shot, this guy is never

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00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: gonna amount to anything. Let's ship him off and maybe

843
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: he ends up in a lesser organization without the level

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00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: of competency that Joe Lake of and uh and the

845
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: rest of the Warriors front office, Bob Myers and Steve

846
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: Kerr and all them. He ended up doing great over there,

847
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: but there could have been a lesser version of that

848
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: story where he would have struggled to overcome the incompetence.

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00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Unthankful that didn't happen. Why, because I think the Golden

850
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: State model is really important to the future of the NBA.

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00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what the specifics are. Kevin Durant was

852
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter shooting this down yesterday. Who the hell knows

853
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: what he if he knows or not what the deal

854
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: is um, but there's gonna be something in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: that happens in the next CBA negotiations that tries to

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Speaker 1: limit some player movement. And I need that to happen

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Speaker 1: for the health of the league because Golden State has

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00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: demonstrated to us the value in that building a loyal

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00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: fan base over the course of a decade that will

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00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: ride or die with these guys because they're in the

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00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: same jersey year in and year out. The continuity in

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00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: the way that that leads to higher quality basketball because

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00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: the players have a ton of experience playing with each

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Speaker 1: other and you're directly seeing that amount to enormous revenue.

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Speaker 1: As boss Man calling Coward laid out for us in

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Speaker 1: the finals when he said that the Warriors make I

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00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: think he said something like crazy like seven million in

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00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: revenue a year. That's the value in the Golden State model.

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Speaker 1: And that doesn't happen without Steph. And so I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that that what if didn't go that way, and I'm

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00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: thankful that the Golden State Warriors bet on him and

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00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: it was a bet that paid off. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have step at number two. You know, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit it's a little bit funky because I I'm

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00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: one of those guys that, like, man, when you're the best,

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00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: when you're the best player on the team that wins

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00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: the championship and you're a bona fide top tier superstar,

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00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: there's a tendency to want to put him at number one.

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00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I know I've done that with Lebron over the years,

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Speaker 1: but typically that's when there's not a player like Janice

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Speaker 1: and that's what makes you honest. So interesting. It's just

882
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: like prime Lebron from two thousand twelve to two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty, where it's like, man, I'm not sure if

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00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: there's anybody at his level, and we're gonna get into

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00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: a lot deeper into Honest tomorrow. Um, but I don't

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00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: think it's to be clear to Steph fans out there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's disrespectful to Steph to say he's

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00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: behind you. Honice Janice is a freak of nature. We're

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00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna get into his game tomorrow. It's a step being

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Speaker 1: number two at this phase two, especially after what happened

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00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: in the previous two years, is an amazing accomplishment. I

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00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: enjoyed diving into his game and it's gonna be fun

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00:48:42,360 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: getting into Honest tomorrow. The volume