1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: The Saint Louis Cardinals dropped to their series opener to 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox by a score of thirteen to 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: nine on Friday afternoon, a beautiful day at Fenway Park 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: for Boston's home opener. I will add but have no 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: fear Cardinals fans. Two games remain in the series. The 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: bad news is that's very much weather permitting, and the 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: forecast for this weekend does not look great, so we'll 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: keep you posted. Yesterday's game was not necessarily well pitched 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: really by either team, now that I'm thinking about it, 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: but Saint Louis in particular allowed thirteen runs on sixteen hits, 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: walked eight batters. Not what you want. On the flip side, 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: I do remain encouraged by the offense, which has recorded 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: at least ten hits in all seven of their games, 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: and they've banged out fifty one total runs. So yesterday 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: not good for the arms, continues to be encouraging for 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: the bats. Welcome back to Cardinal Territory. I'm Katie, will 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: hitting you with a quick one today. A couple of 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: news updates and a couple of things to address. Let's 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: get right into it, starting with our scouting report presented 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: by Fanduels Sports Network. Prior to a Friday's game against 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: the Red Sox, the Cardinals placed infielder Nolan Gorman on 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: the ten day injured list with the right hamstring strain 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: retroactive two April. Second Thomas a jac was recalled from 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: Memphis as the corresponding move. So bad news first, obviously 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: that Nolan Gorman is hurt. The good news in this 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: situation is that both he and the Cardinals think this 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: is a very minor stint. We talked to Nolan Gorman yesterday. 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: He sustained this ham string strain on Tuesday night and 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: extra innings in that loss to the Angels, running from 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: first to second. You can kind of see him on 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: the replay grab at his hamstring immediately when he takes 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: off for second base. He was down unavailable on Wednesday 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: at Cardinals wanted to give him a day to see 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: if it would recover. Then you have the team off 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: day on Thursday. So really it was about forty eight 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: hours of recovery time. Got better, but still not enough 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: where he could play. Cardinals did not want to be 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: down four five days without a player. That's just too 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: long of a time to be without a guy, especially 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: an infielder. Cardinals, I don't know if you guys know 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: this don't really have a lot of those on their roster. 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: They certainly don't have a backup shortstop. We haven't talked 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: about that at all. So they place Nolan Gorman on 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: the injured list. He is eligible to come back that 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: first series of the next home stand against the Philadelphia Phillies. 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like he'll be out super long, so dodge 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: de bullet there. Obviously, you don't like to see this 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: for Gorman, who has kind of had a weird start 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: to the year. Right. He came in over the offseason 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: as someone that president at Baseball Operations John Mozaylock was 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: stressing like playing time, playing time, playing time, and he's 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: been pretty much relegated to a bench role to start 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the year. Very small sample size. He has looked good though. 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: He's had nine played appearances, four hits, a homer, and 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: a walk. The swing looks good, the approach looks good. 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: So hopefully this is indeed a minor stint for Nolan 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Gorman and we see him back in action soon. In 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: the meantime, Thomas a. Jac will kind of be that 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: bench death, he might get a start. He can play shortstop. 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: The Cardinals want to give Mason win a day off 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: the heat, you know, so JC is the natural fit 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: at shortstop there for their roster plays. So we'll see 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: s JC. But this is not necessarily looking like it's 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: going to be a long term thing. So all things aside, 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's not the worst news in the world. 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: But that's not why you're here. You're here most likely 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: because you want to talk about the bullpen, and I'm 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: here to tell you that I think we should take 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: one big, collective deep breath, and I'm prepared for the 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: blowback already, but hear me out. Prior to Friday's game, 71 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals relievers had a collective two six six ERA and 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: they were one of three teams in all of baseball 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: whose bullpen had not given up a home run. The 74 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: New York Mets and the Boston Red Sox were on 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: that list. I do not know if the Mets give 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: up the home run yesterday, so fact check me for 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: that one. It's it been great over the last three 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: four games. No, but let's do our normal preface with 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: the bullpen. We over analyst every single relief performance because 80 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: they're coming in in the most pivotal spots of the game. 81 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: If the game is blown in the seventh or eighth, 82 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: who are we looking at. We're looking at the believers 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: right now. If the game is one of the seventh, 84 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: of the eighth or the eighth, we're not really talking 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: about the believers. We're like, yeah, that's their job. But 86 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: the second they don't come through, all of a sudden, 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Memphis time. I don't think we're there yet. 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: I think there are some players to monitor. I think 89 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: there are some things to be slightly concerned about, but 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: I don't think we are in full panic mode over 91 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: the bullpen just yet. Let's start with Ryan Fernandez, who, 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: as we know, a Rule five pick last year, was 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: nails for them, really developed into a place where Allie 94 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: Marvel felt comfortable using him in a high leverage role 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and we're going to 96 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 1: continue to see Riyan Fernandez in higher leverage roles. Now, 97 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: it hasn't looked good, and we're going to pull up 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the stats and take a deep breath. He's pitched almost 99 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: four innings, he's allowed an earned run in each of them, 100 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: except for the home opener on March twenty ninth. The 101 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 1: last two out of the April outings in particular not great. 102 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Two earned runs three runs total on April first, three 103 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: earned runs on two hits on April fourth, and it 104 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: just hasn't been affective for Ryan Fernandez. And again we'll 105 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: preface this with a small sample size, but at this point, 106 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, hey, what's going on? 107 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: So we asked him. Proof that we do ask questions. 108 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: And credit to Ryan Fernandez, who got roughed up the 109 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: last couple of appearances and was really agreeable to this 110 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: conversation after the game on Friday, where he said, I'm 111 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: working on some things. I don't know where this happened 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: over spring, but I kind of lost the shape of 113 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: my slider, the feel of my cutter, and I'm encouraged. 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: I definitely felt like my last two pitches on Friday's 115 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: outing something felt better. Something clicked, And anytime you hear 116 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: a player say something clicked, you can kind of take 117 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: that mental sigh, that sigh of relief. He said, I've 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: been working at it extensively. It came out and sprang, 119 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: everything was fine, and then I kind of lost it 120 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: halfway through, he said, him and pitching coach Dusty Blake 121 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: have been looking at all the numbers and they feel 122 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: like they figure some things out. Mechanic wise, he felt 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: like he was pulling off the ball. His head was pulling. 124 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to like demonstrate that because it would 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: look really weird, but I think the optics. You know, 126 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: if you understand baseball already, sports, really, if you're pulling 127 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: your head off, you're probably gonna lose some control and 128 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: command there. Baseball Savant, for those of you familiar with 129 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: that page, does a really nice job of breaking down 130 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: pitch profiles from year to year. Shout out Jeff Jones, 131 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: who was looking at this yesterday. If you go to 132 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Fernanda's Baseball Savant page, you can see his slider, 133 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: in particular, the movement, the vertical break, the horizontal brake, 134 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: how that compares to last year. We're looking specifically at 135 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: the slider because that's the pitch that seems to be 136 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: giving Fernandez the most trouble early on, and it is 137 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: a noticeably different number. So I would go on Baseball Savant, 138 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now and just kind of 139 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: compare and see, so what I reference these numbers, it's 140 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: easier to understand where I'm coming from. He wants his 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: break to be at as close as zero as possible, 142 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: he says, if he doesn't, it gets too loopy. And 143 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you have slider, you definitely don't want 144 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: it to be loopy. And last year he did a 145 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: nice job with his slider and just being effective with it, 146 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: and this year again hasn't really been that effective for him. 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: But talking to him and Ollie Marmel after the game, 148 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: as they continue to work through things in real time, 149 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: slowly encouraging. I don't think we've pressed the panic button 150 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: on Fernandez yet. I think we give him a couple 151 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: more a couple more appearances. If you continue to struggle 152 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: with the slider, we're having a different conversation. But the 153 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: good news is that they're at least aware of the problem. 154 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: They have a game plan to fix it, so we'll 155 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: see how that goes. What I'm not really worried about 156 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: seriously is the eighth and ninth Inny and tandem of 157 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Film Maeton and Ryan Helsley. I think the film Aton 158 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: signing is going and is going to end up being 159 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: one of the sneaky good sidings of the year, and hey, 160 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: if you're only going to make one free agent signing 161 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Jo Moselak, it better be a good one. And I 162 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: think film Aton is exactly what this bullpen needs. And 163 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: we talked about it when he was signed, kind of 164 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: that veteran presence. He's also so effective and so durable. 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Now you're going to see a little bit of a 166 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: hesitance from the Cardinals in terms of that durability standpoint 167 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: in the first few weeks of the season, because Phil 168 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Mayton was signed so late in the spring, because he 169 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't have a full spring to ramp up. He said, 170 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: he's fine, but the Cardinals are going to be, you know, 171 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: practice patients or caution with him, just to make sure 172 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: that they don't overdo it early. But I really like 173 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: what we're seeing out of film Mayton. He's effective and 174 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: when he comes in the game, you kind of just 175 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: already know it's that bridge to Ryan Helsley, very similar 176 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: with what we saw from Andrew Kittridge, and Helsley's looks great. 177 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: In fact, the Cardinals have been winning or you know, 178 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: he's only only had one safe situation, so you know, 179 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't really think anone's worried about Ryan Helsley either, 180 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Jojo Romero fine. I thought we saw a better outing 181 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: from him against the Angels. Chris Roycroft's going to continue 182 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: to develop in these spots. I think Kyle Lahy is 183 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: going to be fine as well. That's someone that the 184 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: pitching staff is very or the Cardinals coaching staff is 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: very high on. And you know, Steven Mattz has looked 186 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: fine in this long relief role. We talked about the 187 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: differences and the balances that you have as an organization 188 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: when you use you essentially have seven relievers and a 189 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: long man, which is what Steven Mattz is, and that's 190 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: difficult for usage. Like Stephen Mattz through three Indians yesterday. 191 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: He's going to be down for at least three days, 192 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: so then you really have seven relievers to choose from 193 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: instead of eight. 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They're four and three, and 232 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: every single one of their games they've been competitive in. 233 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: And while yesterday's game, I think there's gonna be some 234 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: griping over just because the pitching not good. Let's starting 235 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: the first inning, right, the Red Sox come out. They 236 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: hang a five spot on Eric Fetty. Fetty has virtually 237 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: zero command. He just doesn't look like himself. You kind 238 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: of knew from the jump it was not gonna be 239 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: a good day from him last year's team. If any 240 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: team puts on a five spot in the first inning 241 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: against the twenty twenty four Saint Louis Cardinals. That game 242 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: is over. They're not coming back from that. Now. I'm 243 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: packing it up. Close the scorebook, shut the computer. See 244 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: I have a great day this year's team. And I 245 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: think this was felt collectively across the riders, at least 246 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: the ones I was sitting next to. We're like, all right, 247 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: how are they going to come back from this one? 248 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: This is a good test for them to see if 249 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: this offense can rally back. If you're gonna give up 250 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: five runs, if you're gonna trail five zero, dude in 251 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: the first dungeon like the eighth, and they did. Von 252 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: Herrera continues to swing it three run homer, which off 253 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: the bat I did not think was leaving the yard. 254 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: It might have been just a difficult day to pitch 255 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: at Fenway yesterday because balls were flying everywhere and they 256 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: continue to crawl back. Let me pull up the box 257 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: score because there were so many lee changes yesterday that 258 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: it was kind of hard to keep up. So the 259 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Red Sox score five in the first, Cardinals going, they 260 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: get a run back in the third, Boston scores again. 261 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Then that three run home or from Herrera and the 262 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: fourth makes it a six to four ball game. And 263 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: you're feeling much better about a situation. If it's six' 264 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: four in the fourth rather than five to zero in the, 265 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: first then it's a one run ball. Game The cardinals 266 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: score again in the, fifth and then it gets a 267 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: little dicey. There Eric fetty gets through, five which is 268 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: important for bullpen length and saving. Arms that he gets 269 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: through five after coming out so rocky is. Important but 270 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: they tack two runs on The Red sox two and 271 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: then it just kind of becomes like a back and 272 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: forth scoring. Affair but, no The cardinals did not come 273 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: out on top of this. Situation this is an encouraging 274 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: sign because they kept fighting, back they kept taking quality of. 275 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Avats you, know they were never out of, it even 276 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: in the ninth where The Red sox like tried to 277 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: give that ball game. Away cardinals score three times on 278 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: two errors in the, ninth then load the. Bases The 279 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Red sox have to bring in their. Closer they have 280 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: to bring in our oldest chapman to close that game, 281 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: out which is not Something Alex kor wanted to. Do, 282 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: no The cardinals didn't win that game of Von herrera 283 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: bounced into a game any double. Play But Ollie marvel 284 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: talks about little victories within, losses AND i don't want 285 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: to sound like this is, like, oh you, know they're 286 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: trying their. Best this is not Where i'm coming, from 287 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: but from a baseball, perspective it is important if the 288 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: if your, team if you're The Red sox and you're 289 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: blowing out a team and they rally so hard that 290 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: all of a, sudden an off day for your closer 291 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: or a rest day for your, closer you now all 292 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden have to put him in the. Ballgame 293 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: that impacts your usage for the rest of the. Series so, 294 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: no The cardinals did not win that ball that ball. 295 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Game they made it interesting the ninth they came up, 296 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: short but The Red sox had to use their. Closer 297 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: now it's a little bit impacted for the rest of the. 298 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Series the fight from this team is what's. Different and 299 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: as we're one week indo the, Season i'm curious drop 300 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: me a note in the. Comments, okay that photo behind 301 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: me quick side. Rant it is so. SCARY i literally 302 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: can't look at it BEFORE i fall, asleep and now 303 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: it's ALL i can see in the. Screen if you're 304 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: on the, podcast you're not gonna know What i'm talking 305 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: about but there is a frame photo in my very 306 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: small hotel room and it freaks me. Out don't like. It, 307 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: anyway back to my, rant this is WHY i can't 308 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: host solo BECAUSE i have the attention span of like 309 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: an actual. Squirrel last year's team did not have these 310 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: kinds of competitive. Bats and when we talked To alie 311 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: after the, game he, said you, know if we keep 312 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: having approaches like, this if they keep, fighting if they keep, 313 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: rallying every inning is like its own. Game he said 314 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: that from day one of the, season AND i do see, 315 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: it because they could be trailing by, five they could 316 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: be down by, two they could be up by. Three 317 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: their approach is the same they are unless. Offensively that 318 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: is a really good sign and a sign THAT i 319 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: think this club might be a little more. Fun So 320 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: i'm interested to know how fans are feeling about. This, 321 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: again it's only been a, week BUT i think there's 322 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: some very encouraging early returns on the. Offense do you 323 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: feel the same WAY i? Do do you feel like 324 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: this approach is? Different do you feel like when the 325 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: team is losing that they're not exactly out of? It 326 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i, do AND i did not feel that way last, 327 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: year and most of the TIME i felt like after 328 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: a big scoring any and from or scoring opportunity from 329 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: the other, team that that game was. Over so the 330 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: last thing we're going to talk about, here BECAUSE i 331 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: need to get my life together and get To Fenway 332 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: park and beat the rain and also get a, Coffee 333 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk About Wilson conturrast a little, bit AND 334 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: i still don't think we have anything to be concerned. 335 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: About he smoked a single in his lasted. Bat he 336 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: did check out three times before that and bounce into 337 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: a double. Play But i've got a couple of questions 338 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: on if it's time to Drop Wilson contra's down in the. 339 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: ORDER i like him in the two, hole obviously all 340 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: the marvel does. TOO i don't think so, Yet but 341 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: let's see how the rest of This Red sox series. Goes. 342 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: Hope maybe you, know For, controrosts that hard hit ball 343 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: towards the end of the game yesterday got him back 344 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: on track because he really smoked. It it was, loud a 345 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: lot of anger in that. Swing but it hasn't been 346 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: a good start For. Controrosts let me look up his 347 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: stats real. Quick let me pull that. UP i should 348 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: have done this. Beforehand H he has two hits on the, 349 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: season so that's. GOOD i also didn't spell his name. 350 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Right even, better two hits on the. Year, uh his 351 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: hops is two. Eleven not. Great it's not what you. 352 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: Want we know he's been something to start the. Year 353 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: when do they when or if The cardinals drop him 354 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: down in the. ORDER i don't think it's time to 355 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: do that, yet because you want, to you, know support your. 356 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Guy he is a, huge huge part of this offense 357 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: and you want to express confidence and, hey conturists, like 358 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna be. Fine we're gonna keep him the two. 359 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: Hole but if The cardinals do drop, him MIGHT i 360 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: suggest for those of you who listened to other episodes 361 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: that it might be time For herrera in the two. 362 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: Hole i'm manifesting. This Olie marmele likes the lefty, righty 363 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: lefty righty split at the top of the. LINEUP i 364 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: think it makes a lot of, sense AND i think 365 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: the players like it. Too like we talked about before 366 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: in prior, episodes it's really hard as a opposing manager 367 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: to game plan when you go, lefty, righty lefty, Brighty 368 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: so sure could another lefty come. Up you know you're 369 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: thinking like A burleson, maybe but then you have three 370 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: lefties at the top of your, order and that's you 371 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: create a lane for the opposing manager to manage against. 372 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: You AND i don't Think allie marmal is going to do. 373 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: That so if The cardinals get to the point where 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: they feel like they no longer can Have contrarast in 375 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: the two hole, AGAIN i don't think they're there, yet 376 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: but let's you, know hypothetically, SPEAKING i Think herrera is 377 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: the natural fit to go. There he's looked great his 378 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: three homer. Game we talked about that and the last 379 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: episode With bernie the. Swing everything looks fine. THERE i 380 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: guess the, moral like the point of this episode is 381 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: let's all just take a deep. Breath let's be a little. 382 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: PATIENT i know we don't have that. SETTING i get. 383 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: It i'm prepared to ride the rollercoaster with you guys every. 384 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: YEAR i know that. This you, know after two three 385 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: game sample, size fans want to shake it. UP i, 386 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Understand But i'm just saying, here whether it's the, bullpen 387 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: whether It's wils And conturists slump to start the, year 388 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: let's just give it a little bit more, time let's 389 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: see where the team is at after the road, trip 390 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: and then Maybe Alli marmal shakes it. UP i will 391 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: say this, YEAR i thought he always managed well in 392 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: terms of lineup, construction playing, time when to use different. 393 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: GUYS i loved him pinch Hitting baker in that situation 394 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: in the ninth there, also that was a great bat From. 395 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: Luken baker was definitely swinging for the monster there in 396 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: a scoring, opportunity which is the whole point of his. 397 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Role but you Saw Brent brown's whole strategy in that at. 398 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Bat there's a time he, hit there's a time of. 399 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: Slug he was, slugging and then he didn't get the 400 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: pitch he. Wanted he was super selective and he worked 401 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: a pivotal. Walk so shout Out Lucan. Baker that was 402 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: just another sign to me that the offense is Clicking cardinals. 403 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: FANS i think this team is going to be better 404 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: than we might have initially thought me at least to 405 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: start the. Season and drop me in the comments too 406 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: if you feel like that's the. Same we'll do a 407 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: mail bag episode. Soon we're kind of due for. That 408 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: but before before we say, GOODBYES i would just like 409 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: to remind you, that oh, NO i pressed the wrong. 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Details i'll keep you posted on the. 419 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Weather Andre polante is supposed to start today at five. 420 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: TEN i don't. KNOW i don't even know what time 421 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: the game, is oh, god somewhere in the five O'clock 422 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: eastern time. Range and Then sunday night Baseball Miles michaels. 423 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: Tomorrow if The cardinals get rained out, today they will 424 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: play a doubleheader. Tomorrow most, likely just talking to some 425 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: people at the. Ballpark The cardinals And Red sox obviously 426 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: do not play again this season after this, year so 427 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: they would really like to avoid one of those one, 428 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: city one day stopover. Trips those are a nightmare for everyone. 429 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: Involved so you can stay up to date with the 430 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: weather On. Twitter thanks for Watching Cardinal. Territory i'm back 431 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: With bernie at the end of the. Series we'll let 432 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: you know when that episode. Drops kind of hard to 433 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: play because we don't know when the games are gonna. 434 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Be LIKE i, said drop me some, comments, concerns observations 435 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: about the team and we'll get a mailbag episode up pretty. 436 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: Soon I'm katie Wo this Is Cardinals. Territory thanks for. 437 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: Watching