Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast, Eric Allen and Bart Scott.
Speaker 1: This is a training camp special, and a training camp
Speaker 1: special means you got your credential out today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, hey man, listen, you can't soon. I don't
Speaker 2: recognize you in the building and you can't assume. Man,
Speaker 2: everybody has the inspiration date.
Speaker 1: Hey, first day of public out here as right, So
Speaker 1: the fans are out here to watch the Jets in action.
Speaker 1: What are you most excited about twenty twenty four training camp?
Speaker 2: Well, I think really what you want to focus on
Speaker 2: is what's different from last year, and in my opinion,
Speaker 2: was different from last year's the offensive line. Now, you know,
Speaker 2: last year, going into the season, the biggest concern was
Speaker 2: the offensive line of protection from an older quarterback. And
Speaker 2: you know, I want to see I've never I played
Speaker 2: against Tyrone Smith, but I've never watched him work and
Speaker 2: really been able to analyze him just by looking at
Speaker 2: him and watching him and you know, seeing how he
Speaker 2: prepares and how he you know, how he walks. Even
Speaker 2: I kin'd of even forget what he is as far
Speaker 2: as standing next to him. So I want to beat right,
Speaker 2: So I want to see how that works. But then
Speaker 2: at the same time, I want to see how Forshanu
Speaker 2: is mirroring him and how he's trying to learn from him.
Speaker 2: I want to see if he's asking questions, you know,
Speaker 2: because I believe that at some point in this season
Speaker 2: you're going to have to try and lean on for
Speaker 2: Shano a little bit, even if it's in blowout games,
Speaker 2: and you hope that there's many of them, that he
Speaker 2: can go out there and get some work and get
Speaker 2: some experience, and this can be a year which he
Speaker 2: can develop and still get some live action. I mean,
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe he can come out and be that
Speaker 2: extra tight end that tackle over and the Jets want
Speaker 2: to like kind of salt the game away and be
Speaker 2: able to kind of run the football and take the
Speaker 2: tight end out of me and yeah, ground and pound,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because that's usually what it
Speaker 2: comes down to. The game comes down to can you
Speaker 2: stop fourth and short or can you convert it? And
Speaker 2: so I want to see how this offensive line works
Speaker 2: for each other avt you know, being in one position,
Speaker 2: being able to settle in because I believe if he
Speaker 2: does that, I think the world and the rest of
Speaker 2: the NFL will know that he is you know, you know,
Speaker 2: he didn't make that top ten list of positions and
Speaker 2: all that stuff, But I believe if it wasn't for
Speaker 2: his injuries, and if you would have been at one place,
Speaker 2: he'd have been so dominant at this point, he'd have
Speaker 2: been probably ranked the number one guard in all the football.
Speaker 2: I really believe in that. I'm that bold on this
Speaker 2: guy's ability. And also I believe him not really having
Speaker 2: to lean on different muscles and go out to right tackle,
Speaker 2: left tackle, left guard, right guard allows his body to
Speaker 2: understand what the demands are for the position, so that
Speaker 2: muscle and those muscle fibers can get used to being
Speaker 2: there to avoid injury.
Speaker 1: So this is just a preview because he coming back
Speaker 1: in the regular season run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying, I'm in preseason two.
Speaker 2: Be in preseason two. We getting used to him warming up,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean a vocals dang strong like they used.
Speaker 1: To even working out. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: are listening.
Speaker 2: Well listen because I know you rippling still in Sexypil.
Speaker 2: I know you was going out there. You're probably on
Speaker 2: the beach working out like Rocky bell ball, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? So I do I can't be on
Speaker 2: count up man, Yeah, exactly, I mean I can't be
Speaker 2: out here. You continue to up and then I'm getting bloated,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm gonna do that. We're
Speaker 2: gonna look like the number ten.
Speaker 1: All right, So you are on the radio here in
Speaker 1: New York every yesday. What's your messaging Ben about Hassan
Speaker 1: Raddick not reporting in TRENI camp.
Speaker 2: Well, for me, I've been a little bit of nothing
Speaker 2: to see here. I understand that it should be concerned,
Speaker 2: you know, because we expected him to be here during
Speaker 2: mini camps. We expected him to be here to training camp.
Speaker 2: And you know, as a fan and the fan base
Speaker 2: that calls in, they didn't think this was They thought
Speaker 2: there was a non issue. So they're concerned because they
Speaker 2: just want everything perfect. But if you look across the league,
Speaker 2: rather you talk about what's going on with to San
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine, it's the fact that you know, we
Speaker 2: expected Brandon and I you to be unhappy. We didn't
Speaker 2: expect Trent Williams to be unhappy after they made him
Speaker 2: the first one hundred million dollar lineman. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Just a couple of years ago, he's like, no,
Speaker 2: I want more h and we see Ceed Lamb and
Speaker 2: we see Jordan Love. So it's just it's a new
Speaker 2: part of the business and I think it's something that
Speaker 2: the Jets are not unfamili with, you know, through the
Speaker 2: years of the revers years and you know, renegotiating the
Speaker 2: I think what has fans nervous is the fact that
Speaker 2: he was traded for It's not like he was here
Speaker 2: right right, But you know, I think what a great
Speaker 2: opportunity for McDonald Jermaine and I think he'll hit the
Speaker 2: ground running. And I think, you know, negotiations take time,
Speaker 2: but we know that deadlines breed action, and the more
Speaker 2: and more camp starts, you know, the greater the need
Speaker 2: to get him in camp to be hit the ground
Speaker 2: running because we all know what awaits us in Game
Speaker 2: one is a tremendous test, a test that I think
Speaker 2: that you would want sign Reddick really therefore to be
Speaker 2: able to be the difference potentially, you know, maybe getting
Speaker 2: to brock Purty and getting a pivotal sack or set
Speaker 2: in the edge and getting a tackle for loss on
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. You're gonna need all hands on deck because
Speaker 2: we know the opponent in week one is maybe the
Speaker 2: greatest opponent will face all year.
Speaker 1: How about that? This is just practice too, So we're
Speaker 1: and get this podcast up on YouTube, New York, Just
Speaker 1: dot com, all our audio platforms is as always as
Speaker 1: soon as possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reason why I want to do that is because
Speaker 1: Reddick could be here tomorrow. He could be here. Sad
Speaker 1: you don't know? All right, right, what do you envision?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we all know negotiations. How that worked.
Speaker 2: Me being in three different negotiations, I know how it works.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you know. Really the signing, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: probably Brian Burns kind of through a wrench. The fact
Speaker 2: that it's a guy right across town that's getting thirty
Speaker 2: million dollars a year and Hassan Reddick. If you go
Speaker 2: over the stats, it's only two or three guys that
Speaker 2: has more sacks than him in the last two years.
Speaker 2: Twenty seven sacks in the last two years. Crazy, I believe,
Speaker 2: never having less than double digit sacks since he's been
Speaker 2: a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. And how important he is,
Speaker 2: right because I feel like what he's going to allow
Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson to do is you know, get the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt and go against the you know, single
Speaker 2: coverage a lot of times, and one he proves that
Speaker 2: he wins, then they're going to try and figure out, Okay,
Speaker 2: we keep sliding, you know, we keep sliding the line
Speaker 2: towards Quinnen and Reddick or Quinn and Quinn or Jermaine
Speaker 2: right now, you know, kinlock and eat right. So like
Speaker 2: he sets the table for so many people, and he
Speaker 2: really allows you to really have to pick your poison
Speaker 2: because at times if will McDonald can step up, right,
Speaker 2: then you talk about some type of NASCAR package where
Speaker 2: you're kicking maybe Johnson then because he's probably the bigger
Speaker 2: of all all three. And then now you got just
Speaker 2: all hands on deck. And that's what you anticipate, right
Speaker 2: because you think with Aaron Rodgers, you know his war
Speaker 2: and what he's capable of doing. Mike Williams, I'm excited
Speaker 2: to see what he's going to do because I feel
Speaker 2: like he's important to relieve the pressure from Garrett to
Speaker 2: eat and everybody wants to see what coral is all about.
Speaker 1: Why does Reddick win so much? He's got more than
Speaker 1: fifty sacks over the last forty seasons, and then in
Speaker 1: terms of taking the football away his force fumbles over
Speaker 1: the course of the last four years number one in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Why is he able to get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and win?
Speaker 2: Because he's Stevenson goal. So when I talk about it,
Speaker 2: I talk about violent, active hands, right. You know, he's
Speaker 2: always moving, he's always you know, changing the target, making
Speaker 2: itself skinny, tremendous hips hip flexion. And when you think
Speaker 2: about him, don't think about Miles Garrett, you know, don't
Speaker 2: think about you know, Joey Bosa. You know guys that
Speaker 2: are just you know, really big, strong, overly muscular sized guys.
Speaker 2: You know, when I think of him, I think about
Speaker 2: Rashim Robert mathis right, I think about oce human europe
Speaker 2: guys that are fluid, maybe not the biggest, can can
Speaker 2: can win with power, but win with athleticism and being
Speaker 2: able to have multiple moves, encounters, you know, perpetual motion.
Speaker 2: So I think that's why he wins. He says the
Speaker 2: edge when he needs to, but he's a guy that
Speaker 2: can win with his hit been and waste beend and
Speaker 2: its pliability.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Jets are gonna benefit from everything
Speaker 1: that went through last year? Hard knocks, reporting to training camp, early,
Speaker 1: playing in the Hall of Fame game, all the expectations,
Speaker 1: and what I said recently here on the pod is
Speaker 1: that I thought there was a newness to it, and
Speaker 1: externally everybody thought this was a show, whereas these guys
Speaker 1: have already went through it before and now they're starting
Speaker 1: anew and oh, by the way, they're starting a new
Speaker 1: with I think a roster that's better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a better roster, right. You know, when you
Speaker 2: think about the revamped line, I mean, if you go
Speaker 2: and don't take my work for you want to go
Speaker 2: to PFF or you want to go to all the
Speaker 2: experts out there. You know, the Jets have gone from
Speaker 2: the bottom, you know, other rankings when you consider you know,
Speaker 2: offensive line to top ten, you know, and I've seen
Speaker 2: them as high as top five offensive line and some
Speaker 2: you know, some rankings. Yeah, so you think about that,
Speaker 2: and you know, you think about what happened and what
Speaker 2: this offense, the line went through last year, all the
Speaker 2: different combinations. But also you consider that the guys last
Speaker 2: year that was the main guys that had to step up,
Speaker 2: are now valuable depth pieces with tremendous experience. So I
Speaker 2: mean I'm excited because I know around here that you know,
Speaker 2: they they love Carter Warren and so I'm excited to
Speaker 2: see what he can do. I'm excited to you know,
Speaker 2: being able to be that swing guy who knows Forshanu.
Speaker 2: You know, I think, you know, you can really lean
Speaker 2: on the fact that it's guys that you know, had
Speaker 2: to put their feet to the fire, and you know,
Speaker 2: if you know, I'm excited the fact that, Okay, we
Speaker 2: have a Ron, but then we have Tyrod Taylor. I'm
Speaker 2: very confident that, you know, if a a Ron need
Speaker 2: to take a couple of games off, or who side
Speaker 2: out or whatever like, I'm confident that Tyrock can come
Speaker 2: in and with this offense and with what he has,
Speaker 2: I think this is the best you know, weapons and
Speaker 2: protection that he's had. You know, he's played well last
Speaker 2: year with the Giants. We know what he did when
Speaker 2: he was with the Chargers. So I'm confident that, you know,
Speaker 2: in this day and age, you know a lot of teams,
Speaker 2: you know, have to use their backup for a game
Speaker 2: or two. I'm confident that if that happens, we have
Speaker 2: a professional there that can play at a high level.
Speaker 1: How much would you have enjoyed playing with Rogers because
Speaker 1: he's so intentional with everything he does inside the locker room,
Speaker 1: every movement, every meal. Guys he's going to be talking
Speaker 1: to after every play, the way he takes things in
Speaker 1: and then just communicates and there is a fire that
Speaker 1: still burns. That is impressive from a guy who's forty
Speaker 1: and has accomplished everything that he has so far.
Speaker 2: Well, it's tough for a guy, you know, and when
Speaker 2: you get you know too, you know, year twenty yep,
Speaker 2: and you know it's hard to find motivation. But the
Speaker 2: fact that you know he's coming off the season that
Speaker 2: he had last year, the fact that he's with a
Speaker 2: new organization, I think was something that you know, he's
Speaker 2: been doubted and you know people don't think he can
Speaker 2: pull it off. I think that's automotive that a great
Speaker 2: player needs, you know, to be able to refocus and say, hey,
Speaker 2: I can do this here. People you know, think I
Speaker 2: can play, but they don't. They don't think I could
Speaker 2: be elite. And I think that's really what the what
Speaker 2: the signment is. I mean, if I look at this roster,
Speaker 2: and being honest, I can look at this roster and
Speaker 2: I can go over you know, all the rosters in
Speaker 2: which Aaron Rodgers had, and I can even arguably say that,
Speaker 2: you know, this may be as good a roster that
Speaker 2: he has had since the year he won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, still respect AJ Hawk and
Speaker 2: Charles Woodson and and Clay Matthews and BJ Rodger. I
Speaker 2: want to respect those guys, but I would put the
Speaker 2: personnel on this defense right there with them and say
Speaker 2: that arguably could be better.
Speaker 1: Yo, what would have happened that year if the Jets
Speaker 1: were lining up against Aaron Rodgerson.
Speaker 2: I mean I was. I was excited because you know,
Speaker 2: we had seen them and it was nine points and
Speaker 2: if we were saw him again, I think they were
Speaker 2: just as excited that the Stellers won than if they
Speaker 2: think yes as well. Yeah, I mean that was the
Speaker 2: defense that we could take.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 2: We took away what they do well, you know, on
Speaker 2: the flip side, their defense dominated our offense. But you know,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, you know, could want to take a little
Speaker 2: couple more chances in the Super Bowl. Nobody wants to
Speaker 2: try to win the Super Bowl nine nine zero, you know,
Speaker 2: but you know in the regular season you'll take it,
Speaker 2: you know, So I think we would have got.
Speaker 1: Him different offense now, different player. Now, what is different
Speaker 1: about Rogers than the guy you did face in that
Speaker 1: regular season you're talking.
Speaker 2: About, Well, well, I think he's comfortable with himself. Right before,
Speaker 2: you know, he was still starting. He hadn't won a
Speaker 2: championship yet, right, and I think he's comfortable in who
Speaker 2: he is. And I think at this point, I think
Speaker 2: the defenses that he faces now are much easier than
Speaker 2: the defense that he faces then. We saw this with
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and some of the comments that he made
Speaker 2: about how you know, guys don't study like they used to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how you know? You talk about how you know quarterbacks
Speaker 2: Defenders are being punished for bad quarterback play because the
Speaker 2: game has been made easier because you can just throw
Speaker 2: a guy into a hit, but a guy can't hit
Speaker 2: him anymore. So now that gives you more space to
Speaker 2: take take risks because you know it's no penalty of
Speaker 2: your guy coming back and saying, hey man, you just
Speaker 2: got my head knocked off, because you can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2: So I think Aaron Rodgers now he can win more
Speaker 2: with his mind then he has to with his body.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the game. I mean, you think
Speaker 2: about some of the guys that have won championships later
Speaker 2: in their career, it was this formula, right, they didn't
Speaker 2: have to be He doesn't have to be MVP Rodgers. No,
Speaker 2: I will take MVP Rodgers, but he doesn't have to
Speaker 2: be because of the supporting cast. It's so much better
Speaker 2: around him than when he won those MVPs.
Speaker 1: Garret Wilson said he studied film recently of Rogers and
Speaker 1: what he did in Green Bay and the opposing defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators tried to counter him. What do you what do
Speaker 1: you anticipate this year? Not so much from Wilson, but
Speaker 1: as we'll get to him in the.
Speaker 2: STEM a home's treatment. But I'm a homes treatment right.
Speaker 1: Because you're talking about m v P, I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: the Jets have an m v P in the offensive backfield. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the quarterback certainly could be one.
Speaker 2: Yeah means it's hard. It's hard for Yeah, even though
Speaker 2: like when we see that Christ McCaffrey didn't get it,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, last person to get it was Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 2: It's hard for that guy. You got to get over
Speaker 2: two thousand to do that. And even when you get
Speaker 2: close to two thousand. They still gonna find a way
Speaker 2: to give it to a quarterback because quarterbacks are throwing
Speaker 2: close to five thousand yards now. So I can I
Speaker 2: can see Brees Hall as the you know, offensive you know,
Speaker 2: the offensive player, offensive player of the year. But I
Speaker 2: can see Aaron Rodgers if everything goes well, he can
Speaker 2: push for the m v P. If they if the
Speaker 2: Jets are thirteen and four, I mean, everybody's gonna eat.
Speaker 1: I just don't know the counter. I guess I'm so
Speaker 1: fascinated by that opening matchup that you talked about San Francisco.
Speaker 2: So to me, to me, when you look at that
Speaker 2: opening matchup, these are identical teams. It's pretty much the
Speaker 2: same thing. Quinn Williams, Hark Graves, Nick Bosa, Son, Reddick McCaffrey,
Speaker 2: Hall McCaffrey, right linebacker, Fred Warner, C. J. Mosley. You
Speaker 2: know Greenlaw won't be there, but you would give the
Speaker 2: just advantage on as far as the cornerback position. But
Speaker 2: you know, you can see Salad definitely built his team
Speaker 2: to and a split an image of the San Francisco
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. You talk about great left tackle, great
Speaker 2: left tackle, right right, great guard, great guard, it's the similarities,
Speaker 2: are you know? The difference is to experience that quarterback right.
Speaker 2: You talk about the wide receiver position, are you Garrett? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Mike Williams when he's on could be on and
Speaker 2: I can say, who knows? I think curly, can they
Speaker 2: see Deebo Samuels in them? Like, yeah, I see, I see,
Speaker 2: I see people see you. I can Percy Harvin, Deebo
Speaker 2: Samuels the big physical guy that they can use in
Speaker 2: multiple ways to get the ball.
Speaker 1: In this ultimately gonna play the long game. When Mike
Speaker 1: Williams he starts camp on the pup is gonna take
Speaker 1: the same They're gonna take the same approach they did
Speaker 1: with Breese last year and hopefully you get the same
Speaker 1: sort of production, just at a different position. But what
Speaker 1: does his edition mean for Garrett? What does it mean
Speaker 1: for Breese?
Speaker 2: The first Well, if somebody is somebody that's gonna force
Speaker 2: force teams to play more honest, can't lean that safety
Speaker 2: over there? Cover three? Nobody's leaning because if if you see,
Speaker 2: you know, Mike Williams on the backside with one on
Speaker 2: one covers with the safety, no safety over the top.
Speaker 2: What do you think Aaron is gonna do. He's gonna
Speaker 2: check to a face, checked to a back shoulder. He's
Speaker 2: gonna get that guy to you know, the ball. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's one of the most deadly deep threats there have
Speaker 2: been in the league in the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: So you give that guy opportunity, then team's got to
Speaker 2: get out of that because Garrett Wilson is running slants, comebacks,
Speaker 2: goals not so much. He'll go deep, but he's not
Speaker 2: always going you know, you know the nine route. Mike
Speaker 2: Williams is a nine route guy. So like you're doing that,
Speaker 2: you're trying to bracket Garrett because you know, you're trying
Speaker 2: to get somebody underneath jam and be physical at the line.
Speaker 2: And if you do that, you can't double everybody, right,
Speaker 2: you still have to try and figure out, Hey, man,
Speaker 2: like we don't really want our linebacker against Breeze Hall
Speaker 2: in space and man and man coverage too often. Dude
Speaker 2: cast seventy seventy six balls last year, Like, dude cast
Speaker 2: seventy six balls. We really don't want that happens, right,
Speaker 2: So we blocked so so now and then so it's
Speaker 2: like the you know, it's like the the it's the
Speaker 2: game you play like, okay, well if you double him,
Speaker 2: now it's now it's ten on ten. I mean you
Speaker 2: know it's eleven on eleven because now you're using two
Speaker 2: for their one. So now okay, who you gonna double?
Speaker 2: So you know, really Conklin and and Corley and Brest
Speaker 2: and all set by the table of of Garrett and
Speaker 2: I would love to see like when they when they
Speaker 2: do decide to put like Wizard out. I mean, I
Speaker 2: expect better production from him because you know he yeah,
Speaker 2: but but the fact that you know, I know he
Speaker 2: had a down year and people were down on him,
Speaker 2: but we didn't see him with Aaron. Aaron knows how
Speaker 2: to get the best, so I expect to see the
Speaker 2: best version of him. So if he gives us four
Speaker 2: hundred five hundred yards receiving that, that that's a blessing.
Speaker 1: Right you got to account for in the red zone, right, Right.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like what kind of packages can
Speaker 2: you give him to kind of make him do things
Speaker 2: that he does well? And Aaron knows what he does well,
Speaker 2: so it's all those little things, right. It's like when
Speaker 2: you talk about champions championships, it's not those guys that
Speaker 2: you expect to kill you. That kill you. That's what
Speaker 2: we expect. When we had our success. Who was it?
Speaker 2: It was Jericho, it was Brad, it was Brad Smith.
Speaker 2: It was guys like that that killed you. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Braylen and Santonio, that's good, but those but you expect
Speaker 2: that from them. That's what you pay them for. It
Speaker 2: was those guys that broke your heart because like coach,
Speaker 2: we stopped on so they didn't get off today. But yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Brad took a kickoff return eighty yards or
Speaker 2: you know, ja yeah, or Jericho caught caught something over
Speaker 2: the middle on a pivotal third down and you know,
Speaker 2: like what do you do with that? So like, it's
Speaker 2: those guys, And now I can see that we have
Speaker 2: those guys in place. Now let's see it, Bromley. Let's
Speaker 2: see that those guys and step up and and be
Speaker 2: like the difference. But they should be expecting and trying
Speaker 2: to be unsunned heroes.
Speaker 1: Set up good opportunity for the young guys with reps
Speaker 1: right throughout the summer, because yes, Mike's gonna be back eventually,
Speaker 1: but right now you talk about like unless are it's
Speaker 1: not young, but he's in a bounce back mode. Xavier
Speaker 1: Gibson second year. You mentioned Brownlee irv Charles a Special
Speaker 1: Teams contributor who wants you know, I.
Speaker 2: Want to see these run. I want to see these
Speaker 2: running backs too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, run Allen Isaiah Davis.
Speaker 2: And is he? Yeah? Second year? Yeah? Can can? Is
Speaker 2: he be the ach hand to Mustard?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Can he be that guy?
Speaker 2: Come in? Ye?
Speaker 1: Dude, you realize how big Brelan Allen is he?
Speaker 2: You look like a small little man already. Know that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But that's what I'm talking about. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm excited to see those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. Defensively though, you mentioned kin Law, I'm very
Speaker 1: intrigued by this siding. Former first round pick. Yeah, reunites
Speaker 1: with Sala Solo on San Francisco defensive court in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: What do you think about his talents and the thought
Speaker 1: process that, Hey, anytime the Jets get a free agentle
Speaker 1: on that defensive line they start.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's once again he's gonna get favorable matchups
Speaker 2: because the guy next to him is gonna be drawn
Speaker 2: the double team, So he's gonna get opportunities and also,
Speaker 2: you know, fortunate for him, he has great pass rushers
Speaker 2: on the outside, whether it's Reddick or Johnson, so he's
Speaker 2: gonna get favorable matchups and he should have a lot
Speaker 2: to prove because he's on a one year and he
Speaker 2: his career hasn't taken off like we anticipated. So this
Speaker 2: is an opportunity to rewrite the story.
Speaker 1: No doubt McDonald. You mentioned him before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see the growth. I
Speaker 2: want to see his body. That's why I want to
Speaker 2: go out there physically see.
Speaker 1: Him and one moment here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to see the difference in his
Speaker 2: body and maturing, right, because you talk about that's obvious,
Speaker 2: that's obvious. Yeah, but like yeah, yeah, we talked about
Speaker 2: appliability and being able to bend the corner, stuff like that,
Speaker 2: so we know all that, we know what explosed the
Speaker 2: first step the issues are and were Can he set
Speaker 2: the edge and and make things go inside? Can he
Speaker 2: be physical at the point of attack and sometimes last
Speaker 2: year he tried to run around and uses athleticism to.
Speaker 1: Do that, and you can't do that.
Speaker 2: You can't do that in the NFL because you you're
Speaker 2: you're opening the gate. You're you're widening the space. So
Speaker 2: you have to be able to set hard edges, and
Speaker 2: you know you only do that. You saw that with
Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson last year. Came back physically ready. You may
Speaker 2: be athletically ready the first year, but wasn't physically ready
Speaker 2: to be able to handle the physical demands. Remember a
Speaker 2: lot of times, you know, these guys are gonna be
Speaker 2: on the left tackle, who's usually the best player, highest
Speaker 2: paid player on the team. But if you go on
Speaker 2: the right tackle, that's usually the war daddy, that's the
Speaker 2: guy that they run behind right and he has to
Speaker 2: make sure that whenever it's a tight end, that's that's
Speaker 2: not even up for debate. That's a win every time.
Speaker 2: If they ever decided to put a tight end out
Speaker 2: there to decide, I don't care even if it's George
Speaker 2: Kittle week one. You gotta be able to, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, fight your ass off to be able to
Speaker 2: set that ed.
Speaker 1: So you talked about it. We put it up on
Speaker 1: the telestration last year. Like Jermaine's power, how he did
Speaker 1: take that step between year one and two. But his
Speaker 1: body's definitely different than will right like he was thicker.
Speaker 2: But but Will just needs to be more what he
Speaker 2: was last year. And the use of that happens because
Speaker 2: you're not training to run fast for forty. You you
Speaker 2: you're able to get the apple rest. You know, you
Speaker 2: know your first year is crazy because you go straight
Speaker 2: from football season to training and combine and tests and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. It's the longest year of your life.
Speaker 2: This year, he was able to after the season, watch football,
Speaker 2: let his body heel and train to be stronger. You
Speaker 2: didn't have to worry about running and being faster. Nobody,
Speaker 2: You'll never run a forty again. Nobody cares about getting faster.
Speaker 2: It's nobody trying to get faster. They might try to
Speaker 2: get quicker, and nobody trying to get faster. They trying
Speaker 2: to get grow into their main man body and become
Speaker 2: more physically mature.
Speaker 1: So for him for the next even a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Ago, yeah, I mean listen to everybody remembers like we remember,
Speaker 2: like let's take let's take a basketball and allergy. We
Speaker 2: remember the first year, what Giannis looked like, what Yiannis
Speaker 2: look like. Now, we remember what Michael Jordan remember what
Speaker 2: I remember what Michael Jordan used to look like A
Speaker 2: couple of bad boy pisses, bad losses. What do he
Speaker 2: look like right? So like he's he's got the resources
Speaker 2: and the knowledge to invest in his body now and
Speaker 2: become a true professional, not a student athlete. So let's
Speaker 2: see what the professional Will McDonald has done in this offseason.
Speaker 1: So he only had a couple of minutes to get
Speaker 1: you out to practice, like a promise. Speaking of knowledge
Speaker 1: and resources.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Mosley, you're a guy who played in the National Football
Speaker 1: League after thirty What is the challenge when the body
Speaker 1: is changing? But you know the game mentally about anybody?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, he the good thing is he's at the
Speaker 2: right position. He's at the middle linebacker. So the middle
Speaker 2: linebacker those demands for physically isn't as demanding as the
Speaker 2: guy that's playing the will the jack or the guy
Speaker 2: next to him. You know, that's that's Quincy's job.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: Quincy's job is to be the crazy athletic run catch
Speaker 2: all these running backs, you know, CJ. To be able
Speaker 2: to be a field general, tell guy for the go anticipation,
Speaker 2: and to be able to make the tackles. We know
Speaker 2: he's always one of the most productive tackles in the game.
Speaker 2: But a lot of his tackles, especially when you talk
Speaker 2: about setting edges with those great defensive ends, he's going
Speaker 2: to be playing from from sea gap to sea gap,
Speaker 2: not having to worry about the d gap too often
Speaker 2: because of the guys doing their job and guys playing
Speaker 2: at a high level. So I think you know, when
Speaker 2: you look at the inside linebackers that play the longest,
Speaker 2: it's usually the middle linebacker that plays longer than the
Speaker 2: willl linebacker because the wheel linebacker has to go out
Speaker 2: in space and do a lot more of that, so
Speaker 2: he's he's in the right position for the right time.
Speaker 2: So you know, you look at Bobby Wagoner still playing
Speaker 2: at a high level, that's because he's inside. You look
Speaker 2: at some of the other guys, even to Mario Davis
Speaker 2: playing inside, it's the guys like the Lance Briggs of
Speaker 2: the world that that that like oh man, like these
Speaker 2: running backs real quick or oh man, I'm like, they
Speaker 2: go to a slot. I gotta go out there and
Speaker 2: I gotta put hands on on a on a receiver
Speaker 2: like in cover too, Like whoa, he quick, I missed him,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like CJ. He's fine, He'll
Speaker 2: never be he'll never be past the guard.
Speaker 1: Jets corner is a great safety position.
Speaker 2: Yeah he can. We'll get bracket help. That's why I
Speaker 2: see when you have great corners, then you get an
Speaker 2: extra defender. So even if CJ's out there, he knows
Speaker 2: how to use his tools to bracket guys with his help.
Speaker 1: We didn't see Chuck Clark. You are very familiar with
Speaker 1: him from your relationship to the guys out in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: What does he bring to the table. What did you
Speaker 1: see from Tony last year? Ashton back as well? Sometimes
Speaker 1: he plays big Knickel what big picture? What's your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the safety position?
Speaker 2: I mean, well safety, like safety is one that you
Speaker 2: know if there is a I won want to say weakness,
Speaker 2: but it's a unknown. Yeah, it's kind of there, right.
Speaker 2: Everybody else is like top five and everything right, and
Speaker 2: safety is the only thing that you would probably say
Speaker 2: other teams have higher rated safety. So I think people
Speaker 2: gonna forget. You know, before last year, Chuck Clark one
Speaker 2: never missed games, but two, I mean he was a
Speaker 2: beast enforced her big play guy with Baltimore or the
Speaker 2: issue wasn't that he wasn't a baller. The issue was
Speaker 2: that they paid Marcus Williams and then they eventually drafted
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton just you know, because Ravens, not because they
Speaker 2: needed the safety, because Ravens are always gonna take the
Speaker 2: best player available. So it was that. So that's what
Speaker 2: kind of pushed him out. And they did the Jets
Speaker 2: a solid because they know that, you know, the relationship
Speaker 2: you know with Chuck, and they wanted Chuck to do
Speaker 2: right by Chuck. So they sent him to a place
Speaker 2: where a great defense and now he has an opportunity.
Speaker 2: Didn't work out for him last year. But I think
Speaker 2: people a lot of people don't realize just what he
Speaker 2: was supposed to be. Sure tackler, big play guy, always been,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And now he gets to
Speaker 2: go up but come back and prove it and you know,
Speaker 2: steaks claim and say, don't worry, we're good on safety
Speaker 2: over here. I know a lot of people are looking like, oh,
Speaker 2: Justin Simmons is still out there and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think I think we're good, and I think
Speaker 2: ashing the light finally turned on and he can become
Speaker 2: like that Eric Smith or James Heady Bow where he
Speaker 2: has his package where he comes in and he doesn't
Speaker 2: have to, you know, take all the other plays. But
Speaker 2: he's capable of going out and doing that as he
Speaker 2: continues to develop as a.
Speaker 1: Broke Antonio Commarti's out there coaching.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, man, that's all. I'm gonna come tell
Speaker 2: him that him and Reavers need to kitch and make up. Man,
Speaker 2: we don't do that. We don't fight in public.
Speaker 1: All right, man, enjoy the vacation, great, Seni you and
Speaker 1: we'll be back right here in September.
Speaker 2: Absolutely