1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast, Eric Allen and Bart Scott. 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: This is a training camp special, and a training camp 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: special means you got your credential out today. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, hey man, listen, you can't soon. I don't 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: recognize you in the building and you can't assume. Man, 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: everybody has the inspiration date. 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Hey, first day of public out here as right, So 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: the fans are out here to watch the Jets in action. 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: What are you most excited about twenty twenty four training camp? 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: Well, I think really what you want to focus on 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: is what's different from last year, and in my opinion, 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: was different from last year's the offensive line. Now, you know, 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: last year, going into the season, the biggest concern was 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: the offensive line of protection from an older quarterback. And 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, I want to see I've never I played 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: against Tyrone Smith, but I've never watched him work and 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: really been able to analyze him just by looking at 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: him and watching him and you know, seeing how he 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: prepares and how he you know, how he walks. Even 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: I kin'd of even forget what he is as far 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: as standing next to him. So I want to beat right, 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: So I want to see how that works. But then 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: at the same time, I want to see how Forshanu 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: is mirroring him and how he's trying to learn from him. 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: I want to see if he's asking questions, you know, 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: because I believe that at some point in this season 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: you're going to have to try and lean on for 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 2: Shano a little bit, even if it's in blowout games, 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: and you hope that there's many of them, that he 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: can go out there and get some work and get 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: some experience, and this can be a year which he 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: can develop and still get some live action. I mean, 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: who knows, maybe he can come out and be that 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: extra tight end that tackle over and the Jets want 35 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: to like kind of salt the game away and be 36 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: able to kind of run the football and take the 37 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: tight end out of me and yeah, ground and pound, 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because that's usually what it 39 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: comes down to. The game comes down to can you 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: stop fourth and short or can you convert it? And 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: so I want to see how this offensive line works 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: for each other avt you know, being in one position, 43 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: being able to settle in because I believe if he 44 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: does that, I think the world and the rest of 45 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: the NFL will know that he is you know, you know, 46 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: he didn't make that top ten list of positions and 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: all that stuff, But I believe if it wasn't for 48 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: his injuries, and if you would have been at one place, 49 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: he'd have been so dominant at this point, he'd have 50 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: been probably ranked the number one guard in all the football. 51 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: I really believe in that. I'm that bold on this 52 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: guy's ability. And also I believe him not really having 53 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: to lean on different muscles and go out to right tackle, 54 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: left tackle, left guard, right guard allows his body to 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: understand what the demands are for the position, so that 56 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: muscle and those muscle fibers can get used to being 57 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: there to avoid injury. 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: So this is just a preview because he coming back 59 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: in the regular season run. 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying, I'm in preseason two. 61 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: Be in preseason two. We getting used to him warming up, 62 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: you know, I mean a vocals dang strong like they used. 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: To even working out. I know a lot of people 64 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: are listening. 65 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: Well listen because I know you rippling still in Sexypil. 66 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: I know you was going out there. You're probably on 67 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: the beach working out like Rocky bell ball, you know 68 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: what I mean? So I do I can't be on 69 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: count up man, Yeah, exactly, I mean I can't be 70 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: out here. You continue to up and then I'm getting bloated, 71 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm gonna do that. We're 72 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: gonna look like the number ten. 73 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: All right, So you are on the radio here in 74 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: New York every yesday. What's your messaging Ben about Hassan 75 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: Raddick not reporting in TRENI camp. 76 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: Well, for me, I've been a little bit of nothing 77 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: to see here. I understand that it should be concerned, 78 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: you know, because we expected him to be here during 79 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: mini camps. We expected him to be here to training camp. 80 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: And you know, as a fan and the fan base 81 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: that calls in, they didn't think this was They thought 82 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: there was a non issue. So they're concerned because they 83 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: just want everything perfect. But if you look across the league, 84 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: rather you talk about what's going on with to San 85 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine, it's the fact that you know, we 86 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: expected Brandon and I you to be unhappy. We didn't 87 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: expect Trent Williams to be unhappy after they made him 88 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: the first one hundred million dollar lineman. You know what 89 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Just a couple of years ago, he's like, no, 90 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I want more h and we see Ceed Lamb and 91 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: we see Jordan Love. So it's just it's a new 92 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: part of the business and I think it's something that 93 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: the Jets are not unfamili with, you know, through the 94 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: years of the revers years and you know, renegotiating the 95 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: I think what has fans nervous is the fact that 96 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: he was traded for It's not like he was here 97 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: right right, But you know, I think what a great 98 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: opportunity for McDonald Jermaine and I think he'll hit the 99 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: ground running. And I think, you know, negotiations take time, 100 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: but we know that deadlines breed action, and the more 101 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: and more camp starts, you know, the greater the need 102 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: to get him in camp to be hit the ground 103 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: running because we all know what awaits us in Game 104 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: one is a tremendous test, a test that I think 105 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: that you would want sign Reddick really therefore to be 106 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: able to be the difference potentially, you know, maybe getting 107 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: to brock Purty and getting a pivotal sack or set 108 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: in the edge and getting a tackle for loss on 109 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. You're gonna need all hands on deck because 110 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: we know the opponent in week one is maybe the 111 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: greatest opponent will face all year. 112 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: How about that? This is just practice too, So we're 113 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: and get this podcast up on YouTube, New York, Just 114 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: dot com, all our audio platforms is as always as 115 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: soon as possible. 116 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 117 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: The reason why I want to do that is because 118 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Reddick could be here tomorrow. He could be here. Sad 119 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: you don't know? All right, right, what do you envision? 120 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we all know negotiations. How that worked. 121 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Me being in three different negotiations, I know how it works. 122 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that you know. Really the signing, in my opinion, 123 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: probably Brian Burns kind of through a wrench. The fact 124 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: that it's a guy right across town that's getting thirty 125 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: million dollars a year and Hassan Reddick. If you go 126 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: over the stats, it's only two or three guys that 127 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: has more sacks than him in the last two years. 128 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Twenty seven sacks in the last two years. Crazy, I believe, 129 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: never having less than double digit sacks since he's been 130 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. And how important he is, 131 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: right because I feel like what he's going to allow 132 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson to do is you know, get the benefit 133 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: of the doubt and go against the you know, single 134 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: coverage a lot of times, and one he proves that 135 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: he wins, then they're going to try and figure out, Okay, 136 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: we keep sliding, you know, we keep sliding the line 137 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: towards Quinnen and Reddick or Quinn and Quinn or Jermaine 138 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: right now, you know, kinlock and eat right. So like 139 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: he sets the table for so many people, and he 140 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: really allows you to really have to pick your poison 141 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: because at times if will McDonald can step up, right, 142 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: then you talk about some type of NASCAR package where 143 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: you're kicking maybe Johnson then because he's probably the bigger 144 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: of all all three. And then now you got just 145 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: all hands on deck. And that's what you anticipate, right 146 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: because you think with Aaron Rodgers, you know his war 147 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: and what he's capable of doing. Mike Williams, I'm excited 148 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: to see what he's going to do because I feel 149 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: like he's important to relieve the pressure from Garrett to 150 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: eat and everybody wants to see what coral is all about. 151 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: Why does Reddick win so much? He's got more than 152 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: fifty sacks over the last forty seasons, and then in 153 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: terms of taking the football away his force fumbles over 154 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: the course of the last four years number one in 155 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Why is he able to get 156 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: to the quarterback and win? 157 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: Because he's Stevenson goal. So when I talk about it, 158 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: I talk about violent, active hands, right. You know, he's 159 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: always moving, he's always you know, changing the target, making 160 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: itself skinny, tremendous hips hip flexion. And when you think 161 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: about him, don't think about Miles Garrett, you know, don't 162 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: think about you know, Joey Bosa. You know guys that 163 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: are just you know, really big, strong, overly muscular sized guys. 164 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: You know, when I think of him, I think about 165 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Rashim Robert mathis right, I think about oce human europe 166 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: guys that are fluid, maybe not the biggest, can can 167 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: can win with power, but win with athleticism and being 168 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: able to have multiple moves, encounters, you know, perpetual motion. 169 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: So I think that's why he wins. He says the 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: edge when he needs to, but he's a guy that 171 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: can win with his hit been and waste beend and 172 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: its pliability. 173 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Do you think that Jets are gonna benefit from everything 174 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: that went through last year? Hard knocks, reporting to training camp, early, 175 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: playing in the Hall of Fame game, all the expectations, 176 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: and what I said recently here on the pod is 177 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: that I thought there was a newness to it, and 178 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: externally everybody thought this was a show, whereas these guys 179 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: have already went through it before and now they're starting 180 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: anew and oh, by the way, they're starting a new 181 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: with I think a roster that's better. 182 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a better roster, right. You know, when you 183 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: think about the revamped line, I mean, if you go 184 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: and don't take my work for you want to go 185 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: to PFF or you want to go to all the 186 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: experts out there. You know, the Jets have gone from 187 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: the bottom, you know, other rankings when you consider you know, 188 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: offensive line to top ten, you know, and I've seen 189 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: them as high as top five offensive line and some 190 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: you know, some rankings. Yeah, so you think about that, 191 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: and you know, you think about what happened and what 192 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: this offense, the line went through last year, all the 193 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: different combinations. But also you consider that the guys last 194 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: year that was the main guys that had to step up, 195 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: are now valuable depth pieces with tremendous experience. So I 196 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: mean I'm excited because I know around here that you know, 197 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: they they love Carter Warren and so I'm excited to 198 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: see what he can do. I'm excited to you know, 199 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: being able to be that swing guy who knows Forshanu. 200 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: You know, I think, you know, you can really lean 201 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: on the fact that it's guys that you know, had 202 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: to put their feet to the fire, and you know, 203 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: if you know, I'm excited the fact that, Okay, we 204 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: have a Ron, but then we have Tyrod Taylor. I'm 205 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: very confident that, you know, if a a Ron need 206 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: to take a couple of games off, or who side 207 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: out or whatever like, I'm confident that Tyrock can come 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: in and with this offense and with what he has, 209 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: I think this is the best you know, weapons and 210 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: protection that he's had. You know, he's played well last 211 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: year with the Giants. We know what he did when 212 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: he was with the Chargers. So I'm confident that, you know, 213 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: in this day and age, you know a lot of teams, 214 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: you know, have to use their backup for a game 215 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: or two. I'm confident that if that happens, we have 216 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: a professional there that can play at a high level. 217 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: How much would you have enjoyed playing with Rogers because 218 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: he's so intentional with everything he does inside the locker room, 219 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: every movement, every meal. Guys he's going to be talking 220 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: to after every play, the way he takes things in 221 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: and then just communicates and there is a fire that 222 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: still burns. That is impressive from a guy who's forty 223 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: and has accomplished everything that he has so far. 224 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's tough for a guy, you know, and when 225 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: you get you know too, you know, year twenty yep, 226 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: and you know it's hard to find motivation. But the 227 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: fact that you know he's coming off the season that 228 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: he had last year, the fact that he's with a 229 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: new organization, I think was something that you know, he's 230 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: been doubted and you know people don't think he can 231 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: pull it off. I think that's automotive that a great 232 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: player needs, you know, to be able to refocus and say, hey, 233 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: I can do this here. People you know, think I 234 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: can play, but they don't. They don't think I could 235 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: be elite. And I think that's really what the what 236 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: the signment is. I mean, if I look at this roster, 237 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: and being honest, I can look at this roster and 238 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: I can go over you know, all the rosters in 239 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: which Aaron Rodgers had, and I can even arguably say that, 240 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: you know, this may be as good a roster that 241 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: he has had since the year he won the Super Bowl. 242 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: I want to, you know, still respect AJ Hawk and 243 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: Charles Woodson and and Clay Matthews and BJ Rodger. I 244 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: want to respect those guys, but I would put the 245 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: personnel on this defense right there with them and say 246 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: that arguably could be better. 247 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: Yo, what would have happened that year if the Jets 248 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: were lining up against Aaron Rodgerson. 249 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: I mean I was. I was excited because you know, 250 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: we had seen them and it was nine points and 251 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: if we were saw him again, I think they were 252 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: just as excited that the Stellers won than if they 253 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: think yes as well. Yeah, I mean that was the 254 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: defense that we could take. 255 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: It. 256 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: We took away what they do well, you know, on 257 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: the flip side, their defense dominated our offense. But you know, 258 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, you know, could want to take a little 259 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: couple more chances in the Super Bowl. Nobody wants to 260 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: try to win the Super Bowl nine nine zero, you know, 261 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: but you know in the regular season you'll take it, 262 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: you know, So I think we would have got. 263 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: Him different offense now, different player. Now, what is different 264 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: about Rogers than the guy you did face in that 265 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: regular season you're talking. 266 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: About, Well, well, I think he's comfortable with himself. Right before, 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, he was still starting. He hadn't won a 268 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: championship yet, right, and I think he's comfortable in who 269 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: he is. And I think at this point, I think 270 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: the defenses that he faces now are much easier than 271 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: the defense that he faces then. We saw this with 272 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: Tom Brady and some of the comments that he made 273 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: about how you know, guys don't study like they used to. Yeah, 274 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: how you know? You talk about how you know quarterbacks 275 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: Defenders are being punished for bad quarterback play because the 276 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: game has been made easier because you can just throw 277 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: a guy into a hit, but a guy can't hit 278 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: him anymore. So now that gives you more space to 279 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: take take risks because you know it's no penalty of 280 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 2: your guy coming back and saying, hey man, you just 281 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: got my head knocked off, because you can't do that anymore. 282 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: So I think Aaron Rodgers now he can win more 283 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: with his mind then he has to with his body. 284 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: And I think that's the game. I mean, you think 285 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: about some of the guys that have won championships later 286 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: in their career, it was this formula, right, they didn't 287 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: have to be He doesn't have to be MVP Rodgers. No, 288 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: I will take MVP Rodgers, but he doesn't have to 289 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: be because of the supporting cast. It's so much better 290 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: around him than when he won those MVPs. 291 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: Garret Wilson said he studied film recently of Rogers and 292 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: what he did in Green Bay and the opposing defensive 293 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: coordinators tried to counter him. What do you what do 294 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: you anticipate this year? Not so much from Wilson, but 295 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: as we'll get to him in the. 296 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: STEM a home's treatment. But I'm a homes treatment right. 297 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: Because you're talking about m v P, I'm wondering if 298 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: the Jets have an m v P in the offensive backfield. Yeah, 299 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback certainly could be one. 300 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah means it's hard. It's hard for Yeah, even though 301 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: like when we see that Christ McCaffrey didn't get it, 302 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, last person to get it was Adrian Peterson. 303 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: It's hard for that guy. You got to get over 304 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: two thousand to do that. And even when you get 305 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: close to two thousand. They still gonna find a way 306 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: to give it to a quarterback because quarterbacks are throwing 307 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: close to five thousand yards now. So I can I 308 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: can see Brees Hall as the you know, offensive you know, 309 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: the offensive player, offensive player of the year. But I 310 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: can see Aaron Rodgers if everything goes well, he can 311 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: push for the m v P. If they if the 312 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: Jets are thirteen and four, I mean, everybody's gonna eat. 313 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know the counter. I guess I'm so 314 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: fascinated by that opening matchup that you talked about San Francisco. 315 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: So to me, to me, when you look at that 316 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: opening matchup, these are identical teams. It's pretty much the 317 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: same thing. Quinn Williams, Hark Graves, Nick Bosa, Son, Reddick McCaffrey, 318 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: Hall McCaffrey, right linebacker, Fred Warner, C. J. Mosley. You 319 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: know Greenlaw won't be there, but you would give the 320 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: just advantage on as far as the cornerback position. But 321 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: you know, you can see Salad definitely built his team 322 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: to and a split an image of the San Francisco 323 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. You talk about great left tackle, great 324 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: left tackle, right right, great guard, great guard, it's the similarities, 325 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: are you know? The difference is to experience that quarterback right. 326 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: You talk about the wide receiver position, are you Garrett? Yeah, 327 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: and Mike Williams when he's on could be on and 328 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: I can say, who knows? I think curly, can they 329 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: see Deebo Samuels in them? Like, yeah, I see, I see, 330 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: I see people see you. I can Percy Harvin, Deebo 331 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: Samuels the big physical guy that they can use in 332 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: multiple ways to get the ball. 333 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: In this ultimately gonna play the long game. When Mike 334 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Williams he starts camp on the pup is gonna take 335 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: the same They're gonna take the same approach they did 336 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: with Breese last year and hopefully you get the same 337 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: sort of production, just at a different position. But what 338 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: does his edition mean for Garrett? What does it mean 339 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: for Breese? 340 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: The first Well, if somebody is somebody that's gonna force 341 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: force teams to play more honest, can't lean that safety 342 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: over there? Cover three? Nobody's leaning because if if you see, 343 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, Mike Williams on the backside with one on 344 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: one covers with the safety, no safety over the top. 345 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: What do you think Aaron is gonna do. He's gonna 346 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: check to a face, checked to a back shoulder. He's 347 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: gonna get that guy to you know, the ball. I mean, 348 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: he's one of the most deadly deep threats there have 349 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: been in the league in the last couple of years. 350 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: So you give that guy opportunity, then team's got to 351 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: get out of that because Garrett Wilson is running slants, comebacks, 352 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 2: goals not so much. He'll go deep, but he's not 353 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: always going you know, you know the nine route. Mike 354 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: Williams is a nine route guy. So like you're doing that, 355 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: you're trying to bracket Garrett because you know, you're trying 356 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: to get somebody underneath jam and be physical at the line. 357 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: And if you do that, you can't double everybody, right, 358 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: you still have to try and figure out, Hey, man, 359 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: like we don't really want our linebacker against Breeze Hall 360 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: in space and man and man coverage too often. Dude 361 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: cast seventy seventy six balls last year, Like, dude cast 362 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: seventy six balls. We really don't want that happens, right, 363 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: So we blocked so so now and then so it's 364 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: like the you know, it's like the the it's the 365 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: game you play like, okay, well if you double him, 366 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: now it's now it's ten on ten. I mean you 367 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: know it's eleven on eleven because now you're using two 368 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: for their one. So now okay, who you gonna double? 369 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 2: So you know, really Conklin and and Corley and Brest 370 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: and all set by the table of of Garrett and 371 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: I would love to see like when they when they 372 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: do decide to put like Wizard out. I mean, I 373 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: expect better production from him because you know he yeah, 374 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: but but the fact that you know, I know he 375 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: had a down year and people were down on him, 376 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: but we didn't see him with Aaron. Aaron knows how 377 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: to get the best, so I expect to see the 378 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: best version of him. So if he gives us four 379 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: hundred five hundred yards receiving that, that that's a blessing. 380 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: Right you got to account for in the red zone, right, Right. 381 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like what kind of packages can 382 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: you give him to kind of make him do things 383 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: that he does well? And Aaron knows what he does well, 384 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: so it's all those little things, right. It's like when 385 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: you talk about champions championships, it's not those guys that 386 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: you expect to kill you. That kill you. That's what 387 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: we expect. When we had our success. Who was it? 388 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: It was Jericho, it was Brad, it was Brad Smith. 389 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: It was guys like that that killed you. It was like, yeah, 390 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: Braylen and Santonio, that's good, but those but you expect 391 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: that from them. That's what you pay them for. It 392 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: was those guys that broke your heart because like coach, 393 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: we stopped on so they didn't get off today. But yeah, 394 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: but yeah, Brad took a kickoff return eighty yards or 395 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: you know, ja yeah, or Jericho caught caught something over 396 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: the middle on a pivotal third down and you know, 397 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: like what do you do with that? So like, it's 398 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: those guys, And now I can see that we have 399 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: those guys in place. Now let's see it, Bromley. Let's 400 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: see that those guys and step up and and be 401 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: like the difference. But they should be expecting and trying 402 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: to be unsunned heroes. 403 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: Set up good opportunity for the young guys with reps 404 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: right throughout the summer, because yes, Mike's gonna be back eventually, 405 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: but right now you talk about like unless are it's 406 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: not young, but he's in a bounce back mode. Xavier 407 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Gibson second year. You mentioned Brownlee irv Charles a Special 408 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: Teams contributor who wants you know, I. 409 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: Want to see these run. I want to see these 410 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: running backs too. 411 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, run Allen Isaiah Davis. 412 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: And is he? Yeah? Second year? Yeah? Can can? Is 413 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: he be the ach hand to Mustard? 414 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 415 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Can he be that guy? 416 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: Come in? Ye? 417 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: Dude, you realize how big Brelan Allen is he? 418 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: You look like a small little man already. Know that's 419 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But that's what I'm talking about. That's 420 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: why I'm excited to see those guys. 421 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. Defensively though, you mentioned kin Law, I'm very 422 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: intrigued by this siding. Former first round pick. Yeah, reunites 423 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: with Sala Solo on San Francisco defensive court in twenty twenty. 424 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: What do you think about his talents and the thought 425 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: process that, Hey, anytime the Jets get a free agentle 426 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: on that defensive line they start. 427 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he's once again he's gonna get favorable matchups 428 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: because the guy next to him is gonna be drawn 429 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: the double team, So he's gonna get opportunities and also, 430 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: you know, fortunate for him, he has great pass rushers 431 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: on the outside, whether it's Reddick or Johnson, so he's 432 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: gonna get favorable matchups and he should have a lot 433 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: to prove because he's on a one year and he 434 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: his career hasn't taken off like we anticipated. So this 435 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: is an opportunity to rewrite the story. 436 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: No doubt McDonald. You mentioned him before. 437 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see the growth. I 438 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: want to see his body. That's why I want to 439 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: go out there physically see. 440 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: Him and one moment here. 441 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to see the difference in his 442 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: body and maturing, right, because you talk about that's obvious, 443 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: that's obvious. Yeah, but like yeah, yeah, we talked about 444 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: appliability and being able to bend the corner, stuff like that, 445 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: so we know all that, we know what explosed the 446 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: first step the issues are and were Can he set 447 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: the edge and and make things go inside? Can he 448 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: be physical at the point of attack and sometimes last 449 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: year he tried to run around and uses athleticism to. 450 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: Do that, and you can't do that. 451 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: You can't do that in the NFL because you you're 452 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 2: you're opening the gate. You're you're widening the space. So 453 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: you have to be able to set hard edges, and 454 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: you know you only do that. You saw that with 455 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson last year. Came back physically ready. You may 456 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: be athletically ready the first year, but wasn't physically ready 457 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 2: to be able to handle the physical demands. Remember a 458 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: lot of times, you know, these guys are gonna be 459 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: on the left tackle, who's usually the best player, highest 460 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: paid player on the team. But if you go on 461 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: the right tackle, that's usually the war daddy, that's the 462 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: guy that they run behind right and he has to 463 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: make sure that whenever it's a tight end, that's that's 464 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: not even up for debate. That's a win every time. 465 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: If they ever decided to put a tight end out 466 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: there to decide, I don't care even if it's George 467 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: Kittle week one. You gotta be able to, you know, 468 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: you know, fight your ass off to be able to 469 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: set that ed. 470 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: So you talked about it. We put it up on 471 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: the telestration last year. Like Jermaine's power, how he did 472 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: take that step between year one and two. But his 473 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: body's definitely different than will right like he was thicker. 474 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: But but Will just needs to be more what he 475 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: was last year. And the use of that happens because 476 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: you're not training to run fast for forty. You you 477 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: you're able to get the apple rest. You know, you 478 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: know your first year is crazy because you go straight 479 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: from football season to training and combine and tests and 480 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: all that stuff. It's the longest year of your life. 481 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: This year, he was able to after the season, watch football, 482 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: let his body heel and train to be stronger. You 483 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: didn't have to worry about running and being faster. Nobody, 484 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 2: You'll never run a forty again. Nobody cares about getting faster. 485 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: It's nobody trying to get faster. They might try to 486 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: get quicker, and nobody trying to get faster. They trying 487 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: to get grow into their main man body and become 488 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: more physically mature. 489 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: So for him for the next even a couple of years. 490 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: Ago, yeah, I mean listen to everybody remembers like we remember, 491 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: like let's take let's take a basketball and allergy. We 492 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: remember the first year, what Giannis looked like, what Yiannis 493 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: look like. Now, we remember what Michael Jordan remember what 494 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: I remember what Michael Jordan used to look like A 495 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: couple of bad boy pisses, bad losses. What do he 496 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: look like right? So like he's he's got the resources 497 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: and the knowledge to invest in his body now and 498 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: become a true professional, not a student athlete. So let's 499 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: see what the professional Will McDonald has done in this offseason. 500 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: So he only had a couple of minutes to get 501 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: you out to practice, like a promise. Speaking of knowledge 502 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: and resources. 503 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: CJ. 504 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: Mosley, you're a guy who played in the National Football 505 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: League after thirty What is the challenge when the body 506 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: is changing? But you know the game mentally about anybody? 507 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: Well, listen, he the good thing is he's at the 508 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: right position. He's at the middle linebacker. So the middle 509 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: linebacker those demands for physically isn't as demanding as the 510 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: guy that's playing the will the jack or the guy 511 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: next to him. You know, that's that's Quincy's job. 512 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: Ye. 513 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: Quincy's job is to be the crazy athletic run catch 514 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: all these running backs, you know, CJ. To be able 515 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: to be a field general, tell guy for the go anticipation, 516 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: and to be able to make the tackles. We know 517 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: he's always one of the most productive tackles in the game. 518 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: But a lot of his tackles, especially when you talk 519 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: about setting edges with those great defensive ends, he's going 520 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: to be playing from from sea gap to sea gap, 521 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: not having to worry about the d gap too often 522 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: because of the guys doing their job and guys playing 523 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: at a high level. So I think you know, when 524 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: you look at the inside linebackers that play the longest, 525 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: it's usually the middle linebacker that plays longer than the 526 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: willl linebacker because the wheel linebacker has to go out 527 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: in space and do a lot more of that, so 528 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: he's he's in the right position for the right time. 529 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: So you know, you look at Bobby Wagoner still playing 530 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: at a high level, that's because he's inside. You look 531 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: at some of the other guys, even to Mario Davis 532 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: playing inside, it's the guys like the Lance Briggs of 533 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 2: the world that that that like oh man, like these 534 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: running backs real quick or oh man, I'm like, they 535 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: go to a slot. I gotta go out there and 536 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: I gotta put hands on on a on a receiver 537 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: like in cover too, Like whoa, he quick, I missed him, 538 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like CJ. He's fine, He'll 539 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: never be he'll never be past the guard. 540 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: Jets corner is a great safety position. 541 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: Yeah he can. We'll get bracket help. That's why I 542 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: see when you have great corners, then you get an 543 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: extra defender. So even if CJ's out there, he knows 544 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: how to use his tools to bracket guys with his help. 545 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: We didn't see Chuck Clark. You are very familiar with 546 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: him from your relationship to the guys out in Baltimore. 547 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: What does he bring to the table. What did you 548 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: see from Tony last year? Ashton back as well? Sometimes 549 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: he plays big Knickel what big picture? What's your thoughts 550 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: on the safety position? 551 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: I mean, well safety, like safety is one that you 552 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: know if there is a I won want to say weakness, 553 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: but it's a unknown. Yeah, it's kind of there, right. 554 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: Everybody else is like top five and everything right, and 555 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: safety is the only thing that you would probably say 556 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: other teams have higher rated safety. So I think people 557 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: gonna forget. You know, before last year, Chuck Clark one 558 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: never missed games, but two, I mean he was a 559 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: beast enforced her big play guy with Baltimore or the 560 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: issue wasn't that he wasn't a baller. The issue was 561 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: that they paid Marcus Williams and then they eventually drafted 562 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton just you know, because Ravens, not because they 563 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: needed the safety, because Ravens are always gonna take the 564 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: best player available. So it was that. So that's what 565 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: kind of pushed him out. And they did the Jets 566 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: a solid because they know that, you know, the relationship 567 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: you know with Chuck, and they wanted Chuck to do 568 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: right by Chuck. So they sent him to a place 569 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: where a great defense and now he has an opportunity. 570 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: Didn't work out for him last year. But I think 571 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: people a lot of people don't realize just what he 572 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: was supposed to be. Sure tackler, big play guy, always been, 573 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And now he gets to 574 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: go up but come back and prove it and you know, 575 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: steaks claim and say, don't worry, we're good on safety 576 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: over here. I know a lot of people are looking like, oh, 577 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: Justin Simmons is still out there and all that stuff. 578 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: But I think I think we're good, and I think 579 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: ashing the light finally turned on and he can become 580 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: like that Eric Smith or James Heady Bow where he 581 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: has his package where he comes in and he doesn't 582 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: have to, you know, take all the other plays. But 583 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: he's capable of going out and doing that as he 584 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: continues to develop as a. 585 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Broke Antonio Commarti's out there coaching. 586 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, man, that's all. I'm gonna come tell 587 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: him that him and Reavers need to kitch and make up. Man, 588 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: we don't do that. We don't fight in public. 589 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: All right, man, enjoy the vacation, great, Seni you and 590 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: we'll be back right here in September. 591 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely