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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. And I had a doctor's appointment

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Speaker 1: eleven fifteen and I'm here.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you did a lot of lying if they let

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Speaker 1: No, No, I had like I've had like ringing in

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Speaker 1: my ear for the last couple of years. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: and I blame Paul. And it's gotten the fast couple

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Speaker 1: of years. Oh yeah, and it's gotten worse.

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Speaker 4: Frity chance if it started in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm fine, okay that, I'm okay to you know,

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Speaker 1: whoever wants to jump in, give us your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready to overreact.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's overreact.

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Speaker 6: I know you love to Let's not be afraid.

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Speaker 5: First. First, I could do better than Margaret Jackson.

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Speaker 1: What would you think about on Thursday night games only

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Speaker 1: twelve minute?

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Speaker 4: Quarter bred always wants to split the app shorten it up,

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Speaker 4: just you know, get rid of the games at that point.

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Speaker 6: You like guys glasses.

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Speaker 4: Well, Claire, you know I do have my readers back

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Speaker 4: in my office.

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Speaker 1: Monkey it's like he had a good bounce and a step.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and she's engaged, and I mean none of the

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Speaker 6: stuff from last year. But I wrote Paul wrote it too,

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Speaker 6: so you know it's true. Yeah, you only right true things.

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Speaker 4: Seems like a bit of a shot there.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium.

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Speaker 4: What day is it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's Tuesday gloom and we had an

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Speaker 1: ot A with access today, but it was a scale

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Speaker 1: down O t A. But I'm I trust that you

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Speaker 1: guys have some good observations. It's Deuce, it's Evan, it's Paul, myself,

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Speaker 1: faith in the booth, a lot of trust. We have

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Speaker 1: faith that the show will happen.

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Speaker 6: You gotta have faith.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, So we had Belichick press conference and

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Speaker 1: then we had Ota. What are your opening thoughts on

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Speaker 1: what you saw today?

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Speaker 6: Well, I said to Paul right before as we were

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Speaker 6: to get access on Friday too, I said, one of

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Speaker 6: these practices is going to be a nothing. And this

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Speaker 6: wasn't quite a nothing, Like there was a little bit.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't a little.

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Speaker 1: More than I thought.

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Speaker 6: All right, maybe it was a little nothing, but not

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Speaker 6: not a lot. Being mean, Bill said, it's going to

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Speaker 6: be a dial back day. We did a lot yesterday,

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Speaker 6: We ran a lot of plays. We feel like we

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Speaker 6: and you know, today we're just gonna go slow. There

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Speaker 6: was one time we heard him, you know, saying walk through,

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Speaker 6: and uh, you know, I thought, I thought just some

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Speaker 6: Mapu playing a little bit more with the safety group.

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Speaker 6: You know, Kean White continues to be on the edge.

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Speaker 6: And some of the younger wide receivers got a chance

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Speaker 6: today with with a lot of the experienced veterans were

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Speaker 6: not here. So those young guys tomorrow, Davis, Kishan.

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Speaker 6: I got to be able to say his name, but

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Speaker 6: it's just like I feel like I pause, it's Booty, yeah,

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Speaker 6: making y'all know me, y'all know me. I can't get it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it was It was a lot of instruction

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Speaker 4: I know Evan was focusing a little bit on Henry

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Speaker 1: Okay Ye was in Washington the Chiefs yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Bill Setti was here. When asked before practice but I

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Speaker 5: they're they're giving these guys some looks, which I think

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Speaker 5: have been driven by sheer numbers in some instances, but

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Speaker 4: I would take the over. I thought what you said

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Speaker 4: that you would like today.

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Speaker 5: No, I tried to today.

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Speaker 4: Holy crap, I sat next to you the whole.

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Speaker 6: Time, like I see you tracking Mac Jones's stats RAC.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the big thing is Hunter, Henry

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Speaker 4: I haven't made that comment during practice and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean even like during special teams portions,

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Speaker 5: Those two guys have gone every even Taylor Swift. They

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Speaker 5: everywhere together. And I think, uh, Bill O'Brien being back,

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Speaker 5: twelve personnel, so I think we're gonna see plenty of that,

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Speaker 6: It was interesting to me just watching Bill O'Brien today,

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Speaker 6: Like a lot of times you see the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was interesting. With Bill's press conference,

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Speaker 1: somebody mentioned that some teams are canceling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Jets did mini camp, which the Eagles, the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: I think there's like four or five teams that have

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Speaker 1: It seems interesting though to me, because mini caamp is

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Speaker 1: the one where everybody has to be there. But maybe

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Speaker 4: wonder if it's just because it's mandatory, they don't want

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Speaker 4: like the new age companies now that like sort of

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Speaker 4: force you to take vacation. Yeah, you know, and if

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Speaker 1: Right. I like that.

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Speaker 6: I saw some of the Mike McDaniel because I think

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Speaker 6: they said, what why, And you just talked a lot

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Speaker 1: like I get it. You know, a reward is you

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Speaker 1: It's like when you're raising a little puppy and you

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Speaker 1: You don't want to just throw them in the crate

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Speaker 1: be equated with bratt with bad you know, like give

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Speaker 1: them other incentives, you know, don't take away practices. I like,

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Speaker 1: I don't get that mentality.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's hard because we haven't you know, there's a

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Speaker 6: few guys we haven't seen a practice. I'll just name

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Speaker 6: two veterans we haven't seen Matthew Judoh or Trump Brown

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Speaker 6: those couple of days. Like, so then you have the

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Speaker 6: they're not gonna get information.

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Speaker 1: What I'm really getting at is is there any chance

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Speaker 1: you cancel some of that mini camp?

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Speaker 4: Well, well this is my This is two separate things.

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Speaker 4: But like I wanted to ask you what your impressions

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Speaker 4: were of Bill's answer to that question today because I

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Speaker 4: kind of thought when when the question was asked, you

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Speaker 4: know how we all do it. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 4: the only one. We all sort of anticipate what Bill's

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Speaker 4: be something along the lines of, well we view all

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Speaker 4: of these opportunities as a chance to work and get better.

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Speaker 4: And he didn't really answer it that way. He was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, well, you know there's different different ways, and

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Speaker 4: you know how I don't want to talk for any

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Speaker 4: other teams, And he didn't really say what his plans were.

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Speaker 4: And I do wonder if maybe, like I wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: instead of a three day camp it turns into a

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Speaker 6: I just wonder, what is the most critical thing for

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Speaker 1: That's what I always looked at it at.

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Speaker 6: And that's it. It's like more of a schedule thing

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Speaker 6: Like I don't know, I don't know how vital it

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Speaker 1: Well, again, it was mandatory. So the difference between OTA

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Speaker 4: Same, They're exactly the same. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: You know, but it's a folk like you know, as

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Speaker 1: I explained before, the league says, you're allowed twenty four

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Speaker 1: can split it up any way you want. Bill decided

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Speaker 6: Well, that's what we Paul were talking about, Like they're

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Speaker 5: I just think that every year put these collectively bargained

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Speaker 5: you know, And I think we've even seen it these

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Speaker 5: I would say, I don't really think we're talking about

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Speaker 5: And that's what a lot of the coaches talk about it.

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Speaker 5: They just want to get that basic and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But don't tell me now that September is like an

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a fair I agree with these guys.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a fair criticism. But I also I

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Speaker 4: agree one hundred percent with Evan. I think there is

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Speaker 4: and then once they get to trading camp, they don't

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Speaker 4: That kind of stuff should be should be ready to go,

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Speaker 4: and now you're fine tuning. You know, as we know, Mike,

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Speaker 4: you know, you do some of your goal you know,

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Speaker 4: the pads on. So it's a little bit more run heavy.

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Speaker 4: Some interior running drills we see during during camp, and

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Speaker 4: it just builds and builds and builds. But I agree

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Speaker 4: one should be all right, well, h let's be ready

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Speaker 4: to go. Let's not have by some reports, ten percent

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Speaker 4: of the offense installed, right, you know, or whatever they

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Speaker 4: said last year in that game in Miami, they went

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just told that every one of these

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well I think you got a pretty good group.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'd be interested to hear like Mac thinks

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Speaker 6: he wants to play. Come and you know, beat mini camp.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure there are plenty of guys. Maybe not plenty,

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Speaker 6: I think where this team's at though, it's just hard

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Speaker 6: know the three rookie linemen all kind of playing different

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Speaker 6: I think with on Whnu, we saw the same thing. Wow,

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Speaker 6: the exciting part for me. So more chances to see

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it just thinks that you just don't. These

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Speaker 5: So they're not we go out there and we evaluate it.

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Speaker 5: Put it in their quotes say, you know, we evaluate players.

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Speaker 5: But they they at least claim that they're not doing

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Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, let's just say, let's take

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Speaker 4: There's an evaluation there, there's no question because every year

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Speaker 4: So where are they figuring that out? What Fred said,

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Speaker 6: I saw Phil tweeted I did not witness this, but

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Speaker 1: And if he keeps doing that, that will be part

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not not to get too crazy about June sixth practice,

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Speaker 4: Little funny Malie Cunningham seemed to be lining people up

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Speaker 1: But that's a good sign, you know, maybe he's a

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Speaker 5: I mean, we saw that last year. Every training camp

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Speaker 1: So Evan, I've been here for a long time. I

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Speaker 6: can tell there's I mean we're talking about motion, you know,

437
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 6: misdirection thing. You know, we're faking a screen to one side.

438
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 6: We're going to like you can already see the beginning.

439
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,439
Speaker 6: I know, Evan, you know, had a great point of

440
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,959
Speaker 6: this is you know, this is all stuff they're going

441
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 6: to build off of and you know, not trick plays,

442
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 6: but they see this coming, then we're gonna build off

443
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 6: of that. Next time it's going to be going the

444
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 6: other way, those kind of things. It's just it looks

445
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 6: it looks right a lot of the time to me.

446
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 6: And you know, there's not a lot of pads or physicality,

447
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 6: but it's it seems like they're they're putting some good

448
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 6: stuff together. I feel pretty good about just maybe it's

449
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 6: just with that Bill O'Brien thing, Like every time I

450
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 6: just looked at the sideline and like, there he is

451
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 6: with you. Know a guy that you know, lately I've

452
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 6: been used to watching as a head coach, so you know,

453
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,159
Speaker 6: you just kind of have that confidence in him. He

454
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 6: looks like he's putting together, you know, an offense that

455
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 6: people know what they're doing and they've got a plan

456
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 6: for attack, and you know they're gonna sequence plays and

457
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 6: all those things that we missed last year. It's just

458
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 6: you can see the beginnings of it right now here

459
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 6: in camp.

460
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're working in one period working on some some

461
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 5: pop passes. Yeah, jet motion and then you pop it

462
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 5: to the guy instead of handing it to them. And

463
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 5: we've just seen a lot of that. They call that

464
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 5: pop passes, a little pop.

465
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 1: Passes like a shovel pass.

466
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's like the underhand one.

467
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: Pour the milk.

468
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 4: That's an option pitch for the milk, right, But he's

469
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 4: talking about a different kind of play.

470
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a forward pass. But it's just kind of.

471
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 5: It's funny because they count it in the box score

472
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 5: as a pass. So like you see a lot of

473
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 5: teams like Kansas City and stuff will run it and

474
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, Patrick Mahomes, so there is another touchdown,

475
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 5: Like it's like, right, anyways, uh RPOs screens, motions into screens,

476
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 5: like a lot of different we're playing over here, but

477
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 5: the ball's over there, and type of things going on.

478
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 5: And I think that that's a lot of what was

479
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 5: missing from this offense last year is it just felt

480
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 5: so uh rudimentary. It has felt so basic last year

481
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 5: where everything was just.

482
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 6: And they couldn't get pass basic like they were stuck.

483
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 5: Was like, you're right, and you were just running plays

484
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 5: to run plays and things like that. This is you

485
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 5: can see, Okay, well we're gonna run this motion and

486
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 5: then we're gonna run it again, but we're actually gonna

487
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 5: do this off of it instead of the first time

488
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 5: we did that, and now we're gonna do this and

489
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 5: you know, those types of things I think are already

490
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 5: starting to show.

491
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Speaker 1: You don't consider the use of Marcus Jones as inventive.

492
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 4: I would.

493
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 6: Like, no, get huddle up, huddle up, none of that stuff,

494
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 6: none of the you know. I mean there was one

495
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 6: in one or two instance of today where Max didn't

496
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 6: have anybody, but I thought that that was you know,

497
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 6: all the rookies. I mean a lot of times he

498
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 6: was going to the tight ends the veterans, but you know,

499
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 6: we mentioned Booty getting yelled at a little bit for

500
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 6: for the lining up wrong, so you know, it's a

501
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 6: little bit clunky today, just I think because of the personality.

502
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I have no idea who was

503
00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: punting practicing, but whoever was Cordless Waven Yeah, yeah, what

504
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: a leg and the ability to you know, get it

505
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: to turn over so it stops on a dime. I

506
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: was impressed. He.

507
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not usually one to comment on punting,

508
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 6: especially in practice, but every now and then you just

509
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 6: catch sight of one that you're like, that's a boomer.

510
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: It just sounds like boomer, yeah, you.

511
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 6: Know, and it just seems to hang up there for

512
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 6: a while. Yeah, no, no, uh no Bearinger today. So yeah,

513
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 6: I mean he's gonna he's gonna have his work cutout

514
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 6: for him. I mean, I don't know how healthy Nick

515
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 6: Folk is or what he hasn't been around, but I

516
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 6: think both those rookie kickers, it's it's not gonna be

517
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 6: handed to them. They're certainly the favorites, but they're gonna

518
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 6: have to kick well and perform, and I think you'll

519
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 6: see a lot of that in training camp where there's

520
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 6: you know, all right, this kid, you know, all right,

521
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 6: put it, move it back. You know those kind of

522
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 6: competitions that that are always fun to watch. I always

523
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 6: like that stuff, and we've had a few years in competition.

524
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 5: I remember Jake Bailey's rookie spring and the ball is

525
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 5: just coming off his foot different and you could just

526
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 5: tell like, oh crap, like this guy's got a leg.

527
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 5: And then I remember Ryan Allen like didn't even make

528
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 5: it to training camp, I don't think before they cut him.

529
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 5: And there was one practice where Matthew Slater was watching

530
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 5: Jake Bailey punt and he was just like, holy crap.

531
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 5: You know, he's like applauding on the sideline about how

532
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 5: good he was. So I don't know if we've gotten

533
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 5: that moment yet out of these two guys where you're

534
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 5: like seeing teammates being like, oh my god, did you

535
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 5: see that? You know type of thing. But I maybe

536
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: we'll get there, but I don't think we've gotten that

537
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 5: moment yet. But wayman, he's got a leg.

538
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: And it was so funny because it wasn't an official

539
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: special Teams portion of practice, guys were still out there

540
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: doing the wrong thing. So he was punting from the

541
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: middle of the two fields. So all you do, you

542
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: just hear it. You wouldn't even know where it came from.

543
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you see the ball

544
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: starting to come toward you. And I mean he was

545
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: hitting it inside the tent consistently.

546
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 4: I'll tell you something I noticed when he was kicking.

547
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: And I just might be more as a result of

548
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 4: some of the inexperience on the guys that were receiving them,

549
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 4: they were ever a hard time catching them, yeah, and

550
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 4: they were like kind of misjudging him, and he was.

551
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: There was a portion on the left field, the one

552
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: in front of us to our left, where probably ten

553
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 4: twelve punts he had. He had one shank, but the

554
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: rest of them were like boomed. Like Fred said, you know,

555
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 4: got a lot of them to turn over. And the

556
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 4: rookies were involved in some of those. And I have

557
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: the numbers down, but I don't know all the numbers

558
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 4: off the top of my head. I think I think

559
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 4: Speed was one of them, a.

560
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: Mere speed Mario Douglas has been to.

561
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 4: Mario Douglas had problems with one. I think I think

562
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 4: Booty might have had problems with one. So they, like

563
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 4: I said, it might have been as much about the

564
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: inexperience of the receivers, but they all seem to be

565
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: struggling just to catch them. Yeah, so I wonder if

566
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 4: he has like one of those funny balls to try

567
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: to catch him.

568
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: It seemed like if you're looking at it, it fades

569
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: to the left. So the players right a little bit,

570
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: just had that little action at the end. Cutter, a

571
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: little cutter.

572
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: See how they control it. You know, these these two guys,

573
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 5: Baringer and Weightman are known for having really big legs.

574
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 5: But can they can they pin him down?

575
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Right?

576
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 5: You know if they said that right? If they're kicking

577
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, if they if they have to punt at

578
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 5: their own forty five, like is he going to be

579
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: able to get it down inside the ten? Inside the five?

580
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: Can they?

581
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: Do they have different clubs that you know? Bill always

582
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 5: talks about it like it's golf, right, like you have

583
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 5: a driver, but then you also need to have the sandwich.

584
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 5: Like do they have different clubs or are they just

585
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: all all leg And that's it?

586
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of golf, take announcements out of nowhere, huh? Live

587
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: in PGA merging.

588
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 4: Dogs and living together that.

589
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: Didn't last long? Well, PGA doesn't come out smelling very

590
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: well at it. I mean money wise, they will. But

591
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: like all this hue and cry about but we're not

592
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: going to ever and now money always talks, right.

593
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 6: It's just out of nowhere, Like no one even had

594
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 6: a heads up. I mean it was just all of

595
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 6: a sudden, like money and lawsuits they were even talking.

596
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 6: I didn't even know that that was even.

597
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: Like they did a great job keeping it Quietah, they

598
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: really did. Yeah.

599
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean if anybody cares about golf, that's good because

600
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: now you have all of the best players again all the.

601
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: Time, and a huge infusion of money.

602
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah well, I mean yeah for a fan, I don't

603
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: really care about that.

604
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: No, but it makes the tournaments more, you know, rich,

605
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: so more. You know, of the best players will play

606
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: in more tournaments.

607
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: But a lot of these tournaments that you watch, like

608
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: like last week was good. There's a good tournament last week.

609
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 4: It was a playoff with Victor Hovlin and he ended

610
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: up winning it. I know a lot of people don't

611
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: care about this, but you know, punting and to not have,

612
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: you know, to not have the best golfers all of

613
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: those tournaments. Now Brooks Koepka just won the PGA, so

614
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 4: the majors. You're gonna get all those lift guys, and

615
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 4: that's great. So now you have them all all the time.

616
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 4: It's better if anybody that cares about golf.

617
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Made me want to go out there,

618
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: did it? Yeah?

619
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: Well with that kind of money that before you weren't

620
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 4: interested in just winning like ten million, but now it

621
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 4: would be more than.

622
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: Just the talking golf was like I just I want

623
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: to go play, go get Yeah.

624
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: I always found that any time I watched the movie

625
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: Caddies shit acted, made me want to go play.

626
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cinderella Boy. Yeah, sure, all right, So what else?

627
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: So we got them? So that's our last access of Ota.

628
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: No one more Friday.

629
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 6: They gave us Friday.

630
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: They gave us Friday, so we'll be able.

631
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 6: To see eleven thirty to one thirty, and hopefully it's

632
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 6: a little bit more action packed than today. Not I mean,

633
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: not that it really can be that much more action pack,

634
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 6: but but maybe a little bit.

635
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: And I don't think it will be because I think

636
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 4: the way Bill talked today, they had the weekend off,

637
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 4: they went at it yesterday, they slowed it down today,

638
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: they'll be off tomorrow. My guess is uh, you know.

639
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: My guess is it'll be a busier day on Thursday,

640
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: and then they'll ramp it back down on Friday.

641
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: And then we have full access next week. Yeah, as

642
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: long as he doesn't cancel.

643
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever they whatever they practice at mini camp, the

644
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 4: media will be allowed to attend, that'll be live. So

645
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 4: we'll be live right now.

646
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 5: That Wednesday practice has like team field trip to bowling

647
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 5: Alley written all over it or something like that.

648
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Early release more likely. Yeah, I like that.

649
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 5: Remember one year they went paintballing or something like that.

650
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: But we will be live next week. Whenever practice starts,

651
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: we'll start the show. It'll be live on YouTube and

652
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: uh and we'll do that each day that they have

653
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: practice next week.

654
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: Can we talk about the fight a little bit, little

655
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Speaker 6: little tempers overflow.

656
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a fight.

657
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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh Cold Strange and I guess was Anthony Jennings.

658
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: I think that was with some of the reporting ones

659
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 6: Cole Strange. Uh, definitely drew the ire of several defensive players.

660
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 6: Was it was it Jennings that was involved and then

661
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 6: you got a little heated, you know, a little pushing

662
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Speaker 6: and shoving.

663
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Speaker 1: Cold Strange showing a little nastiness like that that's him.

664
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Speaker 6: He's extra business. He's extra business like, and.

665
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Speaker 4: I'd like him to block first.

666
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: He blocked first.

667
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Speaker 4: I think he has the nastiness part down. I think

668
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: we saw that last year during games. I don't I

669
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Speaker 4: don't have any question about his compete level.

670
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 6: That kind of a wry about nasty. But I also

671
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: just we always, just in college, there was this guy

672
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 6: to fenceman, just extra business. It's always like why why

673
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 6: why right now? Like because he wasn't nasty. It was

674
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 6: just like we're practicing, like you don't need to cross

675
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 6: check me in the back while we're practicing, right Like

676
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 6: I wore team. I don't like that, you know, just

677
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 6: stupid stuff like that.

678
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: So I don't know that, and I don't know how this.

679
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Speaker 6: And I like I like how cold Strange played, like

680
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 6: I like that style. But like I just I think

681
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 6: he is nasty. But I also think it's a little

682
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 6: bit of like, dude, it's June, like, you don't have

683
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 6: to give the extra business to everybody that's not extra business.

684
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: I don't know ptice getting too soft, teams, teams, canceling

685
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 5: mini camps right now now, it's a little too much

686
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 5: like to block a little bit after the whistle.

687
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 6: I come on, I Missolda took exception to it. Took

688
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 6: exception to it.

689
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Speaker 1: I mean I always laugh, you know. The CBA. Oh,

690
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, the owners gave a lot back to the

691
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: players in terms of limiting practices and OTA days. That's

692
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: not giving the players anything that they don't. What they

693
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: want is more money, you know, they don't pretty much, right,

694
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: all right? Eight five five PATS five hundred is the

695
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: ace ticket hut line web radio at patues dot com

696
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: is the email address any other like NFL news you

697
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: want to talk about. There was a report today that

698
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: two Cleveland Browns players got held up on one.

699
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: Point and had their car stole all their jewelry, their car.

700
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Three thirty in the morning, you know, and good exactly,

701
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Like why are you even driving? There's a program in

702
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. Literally, there's a program in the NFL. A

703
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: player could call and have a ride anywhere they want

704
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: to go.

705
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: It's not Uber.

706
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: It's like a private thing, like you don't have to

707
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: drive when you're going out if you're an NFL.

708
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: So it would have been better if like they got

709
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: their jewelry stolen. But the Uber, no, that's that's just.

710
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: Saying like why do they even have like their pickup

711
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: truck with them?

712
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: I would just say, why are they out at three thirty? Well,

713
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 4: that's you know, I know, it's not like the Grandpa

714
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: and the group, but that's where.

715
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: That's where my father said. My father always said, if

716
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: you're not in bed by midnight, go home.

717
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, right right.

718
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I I kind of like feeling

719
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 6: a little Hopkins. Uh, DeAndre Hopkins is a little tingle.

720
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

721
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 6: It just doesn't seem like there's a lot of interest

722
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 6: in him right now. I don't know. I I kind

723
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 6: of am feeling like.

724
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I read a report that there's not a lot of

725
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: competition for the Patriots.

726
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 5: On this Like if you this is when the Patriots

727
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: will pouts on a player when they're not in the

728
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: bidding war. There's you know, we're late in the year.

729
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: It's kind of like pointed they have a relationship with

730
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 5: the guy, both the OC and the head coach. The

731
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 5: Patriots aren't going to get into a bidding war and

732
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: overpay people to.

733
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: Anybody worried about the fact that there's no real interest

734
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: in but one about.

735
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: That use of the force over Niko Sario still comes in.

736
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: He calls, you don't want there, Hopkins, No, I don't

737
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: want good thank.

738
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: You do that with a teams now.

739
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: But the Texas were said to have been involved, so

740
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: now they're gone.

741
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: No I know, But like Kansas City and Buffalo were

742
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 4: said to be involved too, and they're really not all

743
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: that interested.

744
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: Well, I also think that that's a cap situation in money,

745
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: and I know that they can move the money around.

746
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: And whatever, but they just signed Lendon Floyd.

747
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that that money even ties it

748
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 5: up even further. I mean, I just I think that

749
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 5: there's I'm a little worried, that's all. There's I think

750
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 5: that there is a sound reasoning of that. DeAndre Hopkins

751
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: is not the guy that's gonna take the top off

752
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 5: the defense. He's not a deep threat anymore. He's not

753
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: a third level threat to the defense. But as a

754
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 5: possession receiver, I mean, he would have caught one hundred

755
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 5: and ten passes last year if he had played the

756
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: whole season for Arizona. So I he's gonna be a

757
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: guy that's going to be more in that eleven twelve

758
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: yard per catch range now in this point of his

759
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: career than a true big play guy. But I still

760
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 5: think that he can catch seventy five to ninety balls

761
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: playing on him.

762
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Speaker 1: If you're going to be like thirty twelve personnel, Does

763
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: having a guy like him clog it up a little

764
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: bit too much? Or can he fit into that type?

765
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 5: I just feel like he actually presents an outside the

766
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: numbers threat that maybe has a little bit more cachet

767
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: than Devonte Parker. Where when you start to talk about

768
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: pecking orders and things like that, it just makes it

769
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: all fit a little bit better to have, even if

770
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: it's just off of reputation, you know, Gandre Hopkins being

771
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: out there by name and it's not necessarily the same

772
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: guy that he once was, it just makes the whole

773
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Speaker 5: puzzle fit.

774
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Speaker 1: Does he'll get better.

775
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: To ask to find open?

776
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 8: Like?

777
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: Well?

778
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Like is he a guy a consistent?

779
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 9: Like?

780
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: Can he be the binkie that Matt Jones needs? That's

781
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

782
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: I mean, he doesn't get open. He's never been like

783
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: a big time separator. You know, his game has always

784
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: been a hands body control route running craftiness like that.

785
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: He he ran like a four to six. You know,

786
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: this is not a guy that was ever.

787
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't care about that, But can he get

788
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: open like guys.

789
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 5: Who run again, like, I think his open is different

790
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 5: than other people's open. So it's kind of hard to

791
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: like who like who like?

792
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 4: Who doesn't run well gets open consistent welcome.

793
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Speaker 1: Wasn't that fast. He wasn't fast at all. He was strong,

794
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, but he he just.

795
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 4: Could sound now you sound like me in two thousand

796
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: and seven.

797
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: No, no, but what he what he did? He was

798
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: quick in short spaces.

799
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think quick or fast.

800
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: Worries. You don't have to be blazing fast to be

801
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: short routes to get open.

802
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: Don't don't confuse that. I'm not suggesting blazing fast. Evnant

803
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: just had four to six. That's not blazing that.

804
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: That's slow.

805
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: He runs really and he probably doesn't run a four

806
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 4: to six now either.

807
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 5: To Evan's point, he's a great route runner, though, and

808
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 5: I wouldn't call him quick in terms of like his

809
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: ability to stack short area moves together. But he's sudden

810
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 5: where like he can get up on the stem and

811
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 5: then just break it off just like that. Right, So

812
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily like Wes Welker jitterbug quickness, but he's

813
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 5: got that ability to create some separation and at the

814
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: top of the route, you know, not digs, comebacks, back

815
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 5: shoulder fades, things over the middle of the field, that

816
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 5: those are gonna be what he's gonna gonna live off of.

817
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: And I just think that having him on the outside

818
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 5: it is an upgrade in my mind over DeVante Parker

819
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 5: and what we're talking about.

820
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: I would agree with that. I would I would make

821
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 4: the swap for Hopkins for Parker in a blink. Okay,

822
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: I absolutely would do that. But what Evan's talking about,

823
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: and I totally agree with that assessment, is he's never

824
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: really been a guy who's separated. But he's incredibly strong

825
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 4: and we'll catch those passes more often than not. He's

826
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: not a fifty to fifty guy like down the fields necessarily,

827
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: but he's not going to create a lot of separation

828
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: on a twelve yard out, but he's going to catch

829
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: it and that's where he west.

830
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: That's what he does. So to have type of production

831
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: he has, he's got to be doing something right.

832
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was. He's a great like. I'm not

833
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: talking about him as a his career. His career has

834
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 4: been phenomenal. I just I'm a little worried based on

835
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: some of the stuff I'm reading and that that that's

836
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: like number one, and you sort of step back and

837
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, okay, that's interesting. I hadn't realized because

838
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: I'm like Evan. I mean, I saw, like, in a

839
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: quarter of a season or a half a season last

840
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: year he was very productive. But now no one, no

841
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 4: one's made him an offer. Is it just money? Is

842
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: he because I know that everybody's saying he's looking for

843
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: that Odell Beckham contract, which to me is not outrageous. No,

844
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: and no one's interested.

845
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: Is the league done with him? That's like an Evan

846
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 6: thing like that league the league, The league thinks he's done.

847
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: I don't know if the league tells you what a

848
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: guy's value was. Yeah, I don't know if the league

849
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 5: necessarily thinks that he's washed. But I think the league

850
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 5: thinks that he's no longer the same guy that he was,

851
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: and he still has that diva wide receiver.

852
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 4: So now you take all these other things. He doesn't

853
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: like to practice, right, he's coming off a year that

854
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: he was suspended for six games for peds. You know,

855
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: he's had issues in the past, you know with Bill O'Brien.

856
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: Now I know that O'Brien is. There's been reports that

857
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: Bill is openly advocating for signing him, so maybe that's

858
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: less of a thing. But when you're no longer that like,

859
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 4: I mean, there was a time, probably as recently as

860
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: two years ago, three years ago, top three receiver in

861
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: football period, like anybody's list would have had. I love

862
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins. I love how hard he played, you know,

863
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: in all that stuff. But I just wonder if the

864
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: league is telling you they don't think he's that guy anymore.

865
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: And now these other things matter. They didn't matter when

866
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: he was when he was one of the best three receivers,

867
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: but now if he's a top twenty receiver in football,

868
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: some of those things, the fact that he doesn't practice

869
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: for a new team might be a problem. But doesn't

870
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: that set in fact he doesn't want to practice, I

871
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: don't want.

872
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 5: To doesn't that set up? Isn't that exactly what the

873
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 5: Patriots want?

874
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: Though?

875
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 5: Now it's a depreciated asset, And that's like why I

876
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 5: feel like they're lurking is because it's not they're no

877
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 5: longer making the A. J. Brown trade or the Tyreek

878
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: Hill trade. They're getting an asset who they're getting him

879
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 5: for pennies on the dollar at this point. I agree,

880
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 5: that's classic Bill.

881
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 6: I think Cleveland's the other team that has been mentioned

882
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 6: still kind of in the mix.

883
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: With Like I know, Brandon Bean was quoted today and

884
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 4: Buffalo is saying they are interested in signing him, but

885
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: he thinks that it'll take a significant contract. The more

886
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: time goes on, the less I think he's going to

887
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: get a significant contract.

888
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: Now, he did hire an agent, which is good.

889
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's supposed to take a visit here. I

890
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 6: think what's her face? Reported Diana Rassini. I don't know

891
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 6: that's something that.

892
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: Was like a Twitter room or I'm not sure I

893
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 5: have anything totally concrete on that.

894
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, anything else league wide, the gambling thing, the clotse guy, like, so,

895
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 6: what do you guys.

896
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: Make of the influx in.

897
00:38:59,760 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 9: There?

898
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: Paying attention? I think they always did it. I think

899
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: they're paying attention.

900
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 6: What you think that? Do you think the league is

901
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 6: paying attention now to whose it's legal.

902
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: They have to crack down.

903
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: They have to crack down. They have to show everybody

904
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: how vigilant they're going to be.

905
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 6: Set an example.

906
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 5: But is this going to be something that we're going

907
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 5: to get a couple of high profile examples of in

908
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 5: the beginning, and then it's going to kind of die.

909
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 5: But that's sort of what.

910
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: I It's just not good though. I mean, like from

911
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: what I read, the guy was actually betting on Colts games.

912
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 5: That's the rumor.

913
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true from the practice facility.

914
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: It was a good h It was a good apology though, Yeah.

915
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 6: And so he just came out and nipped it in

916
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 6: the butt, like I think it was still speculation who

917
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 6: it even was, and he just came out and did somebody.

918
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: Actually I thought someone reported it. I don't know much

919
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: more on the Twitter machine than I am, but all

920
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: of a sudden, it was just I just feel like

921
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 4: when I read apologies from those guys, they're always so plastic,

922
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 4: and they're always so scripted, from like an agent order advisor,

923
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: And this was like, I made a really bad mistake,

924
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: not I made a you know, a lapse in judgment,

925
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: or it's not who I am, you know, it's no.

926
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 4: I I bleeped up, and I'm sorry, and it's a

927
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: privilege to play in this league and I'm jeopardizing it,

928
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 4: like I thought, you don't see a lot of guys

929
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: take full accountability. I'm not saying it makes it right,

930
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 4: but I don't know. Well, a lot of these guys

931
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 4: they like to pass the buck. Col's guy didn't. Calvin

932
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 4: Ridley got Calvin Rivers was got Richen So now read

933
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: that the player tribute.

934
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 6: But no, but what does this guy get now? I

935
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 6: mean if Calvin Ridley was like one or two, like

936
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 6: you know, little bets, I think now this guy was

937
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 6: like betting on Colts games from the facility, like knowingly

938
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Speaker 6: using someone else's account, Like I mean, he's got to

939
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 6: be gone for two years.

940
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I would say it's a I mean,

941
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: I would say it's a year. But who were the

942
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: other wasn't there another.

943
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: One Jamison Williams and all the lin.

944
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: What did they get?

945
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 5: So they got to different two different levels. Because Jamison

946
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: Williams was betting on I should get this right, but

947
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 5: I think I think he was betting on other sports.

948
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: So because it was his violation, his violation was that

949
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: he was doing it from the facility, which you can't

950
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 5: do on any sport period. But if he had went

951
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: home and placed a bet on an NBA game, then

952
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: he's allowed to do that. So that's why they only

953
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 5: got slaps on the wrists compared to there was one

954
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 5: one of the players got the full year that that

955
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 5: Ridley got.

956
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: It's it is interesting.

957
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think you nail it, freend.

958
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

959
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: I think they have to have to be more vigilant

960
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 4: than they normally would.

961
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Fans already think that at some games have fixed, you know.

962
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: I hate to say it, but they do, sure, you know,

963
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 4: but I don't necessarily think they're fixed because of the players,

964
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: but referee or you know, but everybody's got an angle Cincinnati,

965
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: Kansas City.

966
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: But like you know, players have influence on the game,

967
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: you know, and all it takes is, you know, to

968
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: to get behind and now you're a little bit desperate.

969
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 10: You know.

970
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: It's it's not good. It's such a weird you have

971
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: to be careful.

972
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 6: It's such a weird like partnership between the sports teams

973
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 6: and the game gambling companies. But the sports players can't

974
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 6: bet on the I mean, it's it's complicated, and I guess,

975
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 6: as you guys said, this is what they have to do.

976
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 6: They have to make an example of a few guys

977
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: until everybody's on the same page. I know Ben Volin

978
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 6: was asking some of the players out there after, you know,

979
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 6: what their thoughts were. I think t trich Wise said

980
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 6: that Bill had sat them down and you know, made

981
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 6: sure that it's it's crystal clear.

982
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Of what you I think the league has to do it.

983
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball did and say if you get if

984
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: you bet on football, ban for life over And I

985
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: think you need to do that for the confidence of

986
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: the public.

987
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: And that's what I did, which is why he got

988
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 5: to hear. Yeah, it is because he was betting on

989
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 5: other teams, not the Falcons, but he was betting on.

990
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: The NFL football. Yeah, and you just can't do it.

991
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: You just cannot do it. And if you do it,

992
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: you're gone, period, end of story.

993
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 6: You know, especially with the news like they can figure

994
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 6: out where you're doing it from. Like you know, it's

995
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 6: I think that was.

996
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: Part of it.

997
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: Far enough to do it for the facility, that's the player.

998
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: You're on the Wi Fi. If you're on Wi Fi here,

999
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: I know every site that you went to.

1000
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 6: Really, yeah, you know, not do that.

1001
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 4: Porn stuff work.

1002
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: You probably should know.

1003
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 6: You know, you're always late for the show, you know.

1004
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: But you know, as he was saying, that when I

1005
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: was really thinking in all honesty is like every week

1006
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: I get I call up like latest lines to get

1007
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 4: like some of the some of the spreads when we

1008
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: do our picks, right, you know, right, because I have

1009
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: my gambling different I took the course.

1010
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: But I think they they've got to they've got to

1011
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: come down hard. They've got to show the public that

1012
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: they mean business, that they're just not going to tolerate it.

1013
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: There's it's a one strike in your out policy.

1014
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 6: Well, now's the time to do it when you're in

1015
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 6: this dead period because once guys get into training camp,

1016
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 6: the train starts rolling for the season. So now you

1017
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 6: have to send those messages out and make sure that

1018
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 6: these guys understand that, like we're going to know where

1019
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 6: you're doing it. You're not gonna be able to do

1020
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 6: it from other accounts. All that stuff is out, And

1021
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 6: I'm very curious what the punishment is going to be

1022
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 6: for this guy, because I mean a year doesn't seem

1023
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 6: like enough. If if he was betting on his own

1024
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 6: team multiple times, like I don't know, I think he's

1025
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 6: out for a couple of years.

1026
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: And you know, to the athletes, betting is another form

1027
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: of competition juice the juice, Like you know, you're watching

1028
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs and you know you have Shaq and

1029
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: Charles and they're openly talking about betting on the show,

1030
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, not me.

1031
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 4: So can I just say something real quick as I'm

1032
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: sort of writing, as we're talking about the stuff that happened.

1033
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: I think earlier in the show I mentioned a lot

1034
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 4: of the mixing and matching, and I said something about

1035
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: offensive line and I think I mentioned that Riley Reef

1036
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: wasn't there and he was no, No mc dermott, No,

1037
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 4: it was McDermott that wasn't. But just because I'm writing

1038
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: some of the stuff and I'm like writing in Rightley,

1039
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: I think I said early in the show that he

1040
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 4: wasn't there. Trent Brown wasn't and Connor McDermott wasn't, but

1041
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: Riley Reef was, Yes, So I just wanted to correct that.

1042
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's been kind of a fixture at right tackle,

1043
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 6: Calvin Anderson getting plenty of work at left tackles. So

1044
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 6: like to your point, Paul, I think they they have

1045
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 6: rounded out their depth. I just I am curious about

1046
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: what Calvin Anderson looks like. I mean, you know how reliable.

1047
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 6: Trent Brown has been sometimes that he might have an opportunity.

1048
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 6: I think if you, I mean, if he had a

1049
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 6: really great camp. I don't know if anybody would you know,

1050
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 6: be upset with putting Trump back on the right side maybe,

1051
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 6: or you know, see how Riley Reef works out. But

1052
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 6: they just got some depth to play with. They had

1053
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 6: nothing last year when they'd go get Connor McDermott from

1054
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 6: the Jets.

1055
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: All right, eight five to five. Pats five hundred is

1056
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: the ace ticket, hutlined web radio at Patriots dot com

1057
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: is the email address. Let's go to the phones. We'll

1058
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: start with Christian in Los Angeles. What's up, Christian?

1059
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, A question in a statement, So on the

1060
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: question side, is there anything that you guys can glean

1061
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: or or identify as a sort of common trade or

1062
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: or or something tangible that you can attach to OTAs

1063
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: that you've seen in some of the best teams and

1064
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: best years that we've had here as a Patriots.

1065
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Is it all just sort of are there signs that yeah,

1066
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: that you see that you know, relate to a good season.

1067
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: I can't speak to it.

1068
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 6: I have only seen ot as the teams that didn't

1069
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 6: want a playoff game.

1070
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: So I'm going to be as honest as i can

1071
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: be with this. I've never watched practices and said that

1072
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: team's great, that team stinks. Never once, and I you know,

1073
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: you saw signs of different things that you said, that

1074
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: guy's going to be heavily involved in what they do

1075
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: this year. You know, like Welker in two thousand and seven.

1076
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 4: You could see that they had designs on him right away,

1077
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 4: but never as great as that seven team was. As

1078
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: soon as Week one happened, I don't think a lot

1079
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: of us would have said this, this is different, this

1080
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: is special.

1081
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: People lied, People lie.

1082
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 4: And say I thought they were going undefeated.

1083
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: They have played in particular who we remember, But you know,

1084
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: we all said, wow, yeah, Randy Moss is different, this

1085
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: guy is and then he got hurt.

1086
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I would like to say that you knew

1087
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: that about Moss, but he barely took part and then

1088
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 4: he didn't.

1089
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: Practice the rest of the camp because he didn't need to. Really,

1090
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: But there's no way you can tell, you know now

1091
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: last year, and I'm gonna say thanks for the call.

1092
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: Last year in training camp, Fred mentioned earlier that we've

1093
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: never seen offense look like that and training camp. Fred

1094
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 4: is right, and even then, I wouldn't have said this

1095
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: team will never be able to complete a pass.

1096
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: I thought they'd figure it out.

1097
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: I figured at some point it would get better. It

1098
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: just never did.

1099
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: So I I do think that, like it's not tangible

1100
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 5: of like necessarily, oh you see it, but there is

1101
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: like a vibe, right, and like when Brady was still here,

1102
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 5: like there was that vibe that you would get of confidence,

1103
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 5: energy of all right, here we go again, right, another

1104
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: football season and another crack at a super Bowl, and

1105
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 5: there was just a I don't I don't know if

1106
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 5: I necessarily feel the same energy.

1107
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.

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00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: But so when I was thinking of answering Christian's question,

1110
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Okay, it's not fair to compare any

1111
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: other year with the Brady years. So within the Brady era,

1112
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: were there certain years where, wow, this year is going

1113
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: to be special and no, they all they were so consistent.

1114
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: And that was my point.

1115
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: And I would say, yeah, if you wanted to say specifically,

1116
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: like six was a year that you could see once

1117
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 4: they made the Dion Branch trade, they're going to struggle

1118
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: with the receivers. They're not that good. They don't have

1119
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: a proven guy. And then O seven was night and

1120
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: day because they went out and signed all those guys.

1121
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 4: You know, it was Moss, Welker, Stalworth. Like you, you

1122
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 4: just could tell, well, it's going to be better in

1123
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 4: the passing game because they have more options in the

1124
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 4: passing game. But in terms of like execution, they were

1125
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: so damn consistent. Yeah, the ball never hit the ground ever. Yeah,

1126
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 4: for twenty years.

1127
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: I just think that there was one. There is a belief, right,

1128
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 5: there was a vibe, There was a belief and it

1129
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 5: will never watching like Brady run out for practice at

1130
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 5: a training camp will never be like the with all

1131
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 5: the fans there and there's people like up on the ramps,

1132
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 5: you know, like the place is just absolutely packed and

1133
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 5: he runs on the field and it's like you you know,

1134
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 5: it's it's what you would imagine. It's like a rock star.

1135
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: You know. Let's go to Pat naguam. What's up, pat.

1136
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 7: Up?

1137
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: Guys, Hey, hey.

1138
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 6: Patty, Hey, just a question.

1139
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 9: We know that danlen Nills is going to be in

1140
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 9: the mix of Tick over dim mccordy's role, and I

1141
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 9: don't think anybody that's on the roster right now is

1142
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 9: ulsa Plant mccordy and what he did, not just as

1143
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 9: far as leadership, but what he did on the field

1144
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 9: throughout his career. But would you guys take a reasonable

1145
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 9: facts simile of a guy like Willie Big Play Clay.

1146
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: Willie Clay, I guess Big Clay. Yeah, I don't know.

1147
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a little bit better than Willie Clay.

1148
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully I'm not familiar with him.

1149
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't remember Willie.

1150
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Clay, really big play Clay.

1151
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 5: That's before my time.

1152
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: That it was definitely before your time. I'm a little surprised.

1153
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: The game is so different than it's hard to I

1154
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: would think, Mike.

1155
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 6: Now, this is one that got through me. Was he Brown?

1156
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 6: Cleveland Brown?

1157
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: I don't know Willie Clay. Well, he played for Detroit

1158
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: before he played for the Patriots.

1159
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got nothing on him.

1160
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: Like, you know, he made a I think he had

1161
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: a big interception in the AFC Championship game in ninety six,

1162
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah against Jacksonville. Yeah, might have been before I started

1163
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: beating on the guy in front of me. I mean,

1164
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: Willie Clay was a good player. But I kind of

1165
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: agree with Fred. I never thought he was you know,

1166
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 4: he had like the like the nickname and everything. I

1167
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 4: never really thought he was all.

1168
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 6: Back Willie Big play Clay.

1169
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: I remember any place I used.

1170
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 6: I thought I thought I was talking. My brain first

1171
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 6: went to Willy Beamon Willi Beman from I was.

1172
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: Like, Willy Beamon, Who's I'm writing about the safeties that

1173
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 5: we talked to Duggar. We talked to Jalen Mills today

1174
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 5: about his transition, and I remember to tweet that Devin

1175
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 5: sent back in March when Devin mccordy when he retired,

1176
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 5: that he said that he actually thinks that this group

1177
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 5: could now be better without him because of the mixing

1178
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 5: and matching and the rotations that they can do, because

1179
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 5: now it's not as predictable, you know. He was saying

1180
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 5: that when he was out there, he was always in

1181
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 5: center field, like where no matter what they started in

1182
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 5: or what it looked like pre snap, eventually he was

1183
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 5: always going to end up in the middle of the

1184
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 5: field somewhere. And now they have a lot of the

1185
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 5: same type of player Dougger, Phillips, Pepper's even like today

1186
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 5: we saw Marty Mappu playing a little bit of safety

1187
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 5: and those guys are pretty similar body types, they're pretty

1188
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 5: similar backgrounds, and now you can just sort of go

1189
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: out there and the defense, the offense, excuse me, is

1190
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 5: not necessarily gonna know who is gonna be where, So

1191
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 5: maybe they won't have one singular player who's better than

1192
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 5: Devin McCarty or is replacing Devin McCarty. I think it's

1193
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 5: going to be a group of people.

1194
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: The big way, it'll be the first two games. If

1195
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: the opposing offense comes up with a big play, how

1196
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: many guys in the secondary have their palms up looking

1197
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: at each other, then you'll know, well, they're missing McCarty's communication.

1198
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 6: That's what I was saying, And like you know, it

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00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 6: does it sounds great in theory that, like you know,

1200
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 6: now they can't tell what's gonna come. But it also

1201
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 6: requires that all those guys have that communication that Devin

1202
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 6: McCarty had because you knew you could always count on

1203
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 6: him in the back. But where it's right, Jabrill's on

1204
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 6: the back end this play, you know, all right, now

1205
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 6: we're going to mills Like, it's a lot of changes

1206
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 6: going on, and if a miscommunication happens, especially on the

1207
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 6: back an we all know what happens, it's gonna be.

1208
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: A big score.

1209
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 6: So I go back to that twenty twelve season when

1210
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 6: they really seem to like make that move with him,

1211
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 6: and it really, you know, set the stage for that

1212
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 6: defense to win a few more Super Bowls. And it's

1213
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 6: a really important thing. I think they need to find it.

1214
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 6: And it's not even like the play style. It's like,

1215
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 6: you know, you just everybody needs to be on the

1216
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 6: same page. You need that communication, especially in this defense.

1217
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the communication is gonna Like you both

1218
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: said that that will be the I'm not as worried

1219
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 5: about them physically replacing Devin the range, like I don't

1220
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 5: really Yeah, we could get out there and there could

1221
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 5: be when he was back there. The amount of coverage

1222
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 5: bus you could count on like one hand, like, yeah,

1223
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: the guys get beat individually, but in terms of, oh

1224
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 5: they just let some guy go run by himself for

1225
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 5: forty yards like that, that just doesn't happen too often.

1226
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 6: We go watch Seattle twenty twelve, that was there at

1227
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 6: that game, and it was like Tevon Wilson and I

1228
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 6: forget who it might have even had to put Nate

1229
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 6: ember At there at that point because they were they

1230
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 6: were really shorthanded.

1231
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 4: But it was Seattle bombs away bombs away.

1232
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: The structure of the Pays defenses second to none, Like

1233
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 5: they are just so structurally sound in the back end.

1234
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 5: And you'll go watch like tape of other defenses around

1235
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 5: the league. You're like, they just let a guy ten

1236
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: yards behind them, like nobody everybody's palms up, like who

1237
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 5: had him?

1238
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: Right?

1239
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 5: And that just doesn't didn't happen them here.

1240
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Get three when they got rid of malloy and that

1241
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: first game against Buffalo, sitting with Brian Moore and Brian's like,

1242
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: how how fast into the game before they're arguing with

1243
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: each other, And sure enough, that first big play Buffalo had,

1244
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: They're all yelling at each other. Back there it was

1245
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, ty law was yelling at somebody Rodney.

1246
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 4: Ty Ty was gesturing two people, and it was it

1247
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 4: was I mean the culprit was Antoine Harris, Oh yeah,

1248
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: who was out of position a lot. And the next

1249
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: week it was Eugene Wilson. And they never lost again.

1250
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 6: Right right, and Lawyer was probably only other side They.

1251
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: Lost one game the rest of the year.

1252
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 10: That was it.

1253
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Bryce walks, It walks in fine to a bar. Bryce

1254
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: rights in. I think the Patriots difficult schedule is a

1255
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,479
Speaker 1: blessing in disguise. And here's my reasoning. One, I still

1256
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: think of this season as a building year. Thus, I'm

1257
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: not as worried about the team's win loss record as

1258
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: they otherwise would be. Two, I think playing best teams

1259
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: in the league on paper will provide a better picture

1260
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: of where the Patriots are as a franchise. They'll have

1261
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: a better understanding of who they can build around and

1262
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: what air is they still need to be addressed. Playing

1263
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: stronger competition will not allow will not allow any weaknesses

1264
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: to be hidden. Additionally, playing this schedule should help the

1265
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: younger players in the long run. And Three, Finally, I

1266
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: really think at at something at the start of the season,

1267
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: we should have a clear picture of Mac. Or maybe

1268
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: it means at the end of the season, we should

1269
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: have a clear picture of Mac. He will either put

1270
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: up points with top offenses or not. He has completed weapons. Boy,

1271
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: this is the writing here is just terrible anyway. Yeah, no,

1272
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: it's not my reading. I'm trying to, you know, transcribe

1273
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: this thing. I'm reading it.

1274
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 4: I don't really understand a couple of points on that.

1275
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 4: And listen, your schedule is what it is. It's nothing.

1276
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: I mean, there are gonna be years. Your schedule is

1277
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit more daunting than others. That's

1278
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 4: the way it works. But I don't really know why

1279
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: we're okay with a hard schedule because this is a

1280
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: what was like a rebuilding Why why are we there? Why?

1281
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: Why why are we well?

1282
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: Isn't that you know? It's not like the Celtics where

1283
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: we're expected to win this year.

1284
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: No, I understand that because they don't think the team

1285
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: is that good.

1286
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: Well, they don't know yet, we don't know.

1287
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 4: But people that don't have a lot of expectations for

1288
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 4: the Patriots don't think they're that good.

1289
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: Well, we don't know. They could end up being good.

1290
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 4: I understand that. But people who do not have high

1291
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 4: expectations for the team right now don't think the Patriots

1292
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: are that good. That's why they don't have high expectations.

1293
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: We haven't had any idea what's going to happen? Fred,

1294
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 4: They could win thirteen.

1295
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: Games, right, and then they're good.

1296
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 4: Mike, Please please help me. Even when like, I just

1297
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: don't understand why we would go into the season saying, well,

1298
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 4: it's a rebuilding year anyway. Well, why we're now several

1299
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 4: years removed from Tom Brady. Why are we like going

1300
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 4: into a season thinking, yeah, everybuilding anyway, I'm not. I'm

1301
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: not worried if they don't win this year because they're not.

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Speaker 4: They're not not supposed to win, Like, no, you should

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Speaker 4: be at a point your quarterbacks in his third year,

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Speaker 4: you should be at a point where you're ready to

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Speaker 4: win some games. I think what people are concerned about

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Speaker 4: is they feel like there are teams in the conference,

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Speaker 4: specifically in the division, that are ahead of them. That's

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Speaker 4: what I mean, that's the problem.

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Speaker 5: I think coping.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like if you're in the NFC,

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Speaker 4: I think you would be much more bullish on the page.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I don't think I don't think maybe you

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Speaker 1: don't call it rebuilding, but I still think they're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out who they have, Like who do we

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Speaker 1: have at quarterback? Like is this guy good?

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Speaker 4: Right? And that's so I'm not happy because we have

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Speaker 4: a bad schedule, like a tough schedule because of that,

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, but that's why I don't think

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Speaker 4: they're gonna do well.

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Speaker 1: But how many times, like whether it was last year

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Speaker 1: or the year before, where we said, yeah, they they

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Speaker 1: beat the Ravens. But are they beat the Titans, but

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Speaker 1: they beat them without Derrick Henry? You know they are

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Speaker 1: they beat this team without that?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 1: No, I know, But like I think the writer's point is,

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Speaker 1: assuming you know, health is is you know, fairly good

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Speaker 1: for both teams, that you're not going to be hide

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Speaker 1: behind a poor opponent. And and you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: get any paper wins.

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Speaker 4: But he's okay with that because they're not expecting to win.

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Speaker 4: I don't really understand that mentality, that's all. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to pick on the email. I get

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Speaker 4: point is, I don't go into a season saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm okay if we don't beat all these teams that

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Speaker 4: I think are better than us, because we're not supposed

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Speaker 4: to be as good as that. I think we are

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Speaker 4: supposed to be as good as that.

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: his blessing, as he calls it, is that we should

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Speaker 1: have a very clear picture of who this team is

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. They could be a

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Speaker 1: really good team or they could be a really bad team.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know.

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Speaker 6: It sounds great in theory. I just I think all

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Speaker 6: this like talk about what they give me. The media

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Speaker 6: schedule is going to be, like it really only matters

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Speaker 6: like the first couple of weeks, Like I don't know,

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Speaker 6: I look at Philadelphia, they'll probably be a lot of

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Speaker 6: the same kind of team that they were. But like

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Speaker 6: once you get into November December, these are different teams

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Speaker 6: than what we're talking about now, Like on paper what

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Speaker 6: these teams look like as looking ahead, Like I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you said, like how different it is.

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Speaker 6: I do like the fact that at least.

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Speaker 1: On paper, you're gonna see the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna you know. But to Paul's point, all I

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Speaker 6: really need is.

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Speaker 1: The AFC East, Like beat those teams.

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Speaker 6: That's that's my measuring bar that I just don't understand.

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Speaker 4: Like to me, it's not even about the schedule or

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Speaker 4: how much better or worse I think other teams are.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why you would go in year four

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Speaker 4: Like to me, this is year four of a process

1365
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 4: saying well, we're not going to be that good anyway,

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Speaker 4: because we're not. We're not supposed to be at that

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Speaker 4: level yet, Yeah you are, you should be better, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we should be a sending at this point and I'm

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Speaker 4: not telling you you're not. But I don't know why

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Speaker 4: you would go in saying I don't mind that we're

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Speaker 4: playing hard teams because I didn't expect to. And even

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Speaker 4: if we were playing bad teams, because we're rebuilding. That's

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Speaker 4: the part that I don't get. They should be at

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Speaker 4: a level, Like I said, third year for your starting quarterback,

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Speaker 4: fourth year post Brady, you shouldn't be looking at this well,

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Speaker 4: it's just you know, well, but just year four of us.

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Speaker 1: Maybe saying I do expect to beat the bad teams.

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Speaker 1: But that's not a good measuring stick, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: what happens.

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Speaker 4: He's clearly not expecting to beat the good teams. That's

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Speaker 4: part of what his emails he wanted. I know he

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Speaker 4: had a hard time writing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he wants to see, like, how do

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Speaker 1: you compete with the best? Bradley writes in I remember

1385
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Speaker 1: Evan seemed to notice toward the end of last year,

1386
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Speaker 1: Max mechanics are throwing the ball were starting to fade.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, from what you guys have seen in OTAs,

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Speaker 1: has he tightened those mechanics up. Are those still a

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Speaker 1: concern going into this year? And if so who would

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Speaker 1: he work with in terms of general QB mechanics.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's no He's in a red jersey and there's

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Speaker 5: no real pressure on him yet, So it's kind of hard.

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Speaker 5: If your mechanics don't look good in the spring, then

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Speaker 5: you just have bad mechanics, right, and I and Ma's

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Speaker 5: not in that category, so it's always gonna look decent

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Speaker 5: at this time of year. He's he's always worked with

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Speaker 5: with Coach d his own quarterbacks coach, going back to

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Speaker 5: like middle school. I think that he's worked with. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: the big one around here is Tom House, who worked

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Speaker 5: with Brady. You know, there's other guys that Matt Mahomes

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Speaker 5: has a guy, Quincy Avery's another one of them. He's

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Speaker 5: pretty active on Twitter, so that there's a bunch of

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Speaker 5: quarterback you know, Jordan Palmer, like, there's a bunch of

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Speaker 5: quarterback gurus that that work on these types of things.

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Speaker 5: But you can't really assess his footworkers mechanics until he's

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Speaker 5: in a live pocket. And in that point, I.

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Speaker 6: Would just say I caught him a couple of times

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Speaker 6: today just having fun, you know, like he just was

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Speaker 6: he's certainly locked in when he's in the drills, but

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Speaker 6: just something certainly didn't stand out to me last year

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Speaker 6: was him kind of goofing around having a moment. We

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Speaker 6: saw one time he sprinted like and he might have

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Speaker 6: been on the wrong field. He sprinted over to the

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Speaker 6: other side like. Its just it doesn't look like Mac

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Speaker 6: with the weight of the world on his shoulders. It

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Speaker 6: looks like Mac who is having fun and feels like

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Speaker 2: And Now great moments in.

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Speaker 1: History.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you a quick story story time. And it

1526
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 5: was at my dad's cousin's wedding, and my parents tell

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 5: the story better than me. But I was in a

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01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 5: group of people and we were arguing Celtics Nicks at

1529
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 5: the time, like that was you know something that was

1530
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Speaker 5: the Knicks were actually good back then or something.

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Speaker 15: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was enough of a rival really to argue about it.

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Speaker 5: And my parents were somewhere else and I was there

1534
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Speaker 5: by myself and my parents, like over here, somebody being like, yeah,

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01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 5: there's there's this kid in the other room and he's

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01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 5: like going toe to toe with the adults about about sports,

1537
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 5: and he's he knows what he's talking about, but you know,

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Speaker 5: it's I think it's getting under some people's skins. And

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01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 5: my dad just looks at my mom and goes, I'll

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01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 5: be right back, and goes, And I'm just sitting in

1541
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 5: there holding court, like all these people are around me,

1542
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 5: and I'm just like telling them that, you know, they're

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01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 5: idiots or whatever.

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Speaker 6: So you go YouTube channel.

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 5: This was born, you know, I was born like this.

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01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from you know, Evan about you

1548
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: were right, though your dad probably did tell that story better.

1549
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 5: Than I was probably five, so shut up, guys all.

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: So you were holding court at five, Oh yeah, he's

1551
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 1: like Jesus Like when Jesus was a kid, I was

1552
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: just breaking down the twenty ten. He would like argue

1553
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: with all the rabbis and stuff. So that's that's that's

1554
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: like Evan.

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01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I used to go to bars and restaurants to

1556
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 5: like watch TV, you know, the TVs at the bars,

1557
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 5: and I would get into it with like these grown

1558
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 5: men over.

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Speaker 10: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it's like that since he was born,

1561
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: my dad said. But like he would take me to

1562
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 1: the barber shop and I'd sit down and I'd recite

1563
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: all the names of the Giants offensive line. It was

1564
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: like Robistelli and all these guys, and you know, the

1565
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: barbers would all laugh and everything.

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Speaker 6: It's so funny how you can do that.

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01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: I have no recollection of it whatsoever.

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Speaker 6: Like I remember as a kid, I could name so

1569
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 6: many players from every sport, and now I'm just like, who, Like,

1570
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 6: I don't know anybody. I don't I don't know. Maybe

1571
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 6: because I think he was starting nine sports on every

1572
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball team.

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Speaker 4: From me, probably be a baseball car. I probably could

1574
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 4: have told the stats. Do you think it's just because

1575
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 4: you had less stuff in your head so you can retain.

1576
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: No, I think it was the things that you were

1577
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: most interested in.

1578
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1579
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 6: I'd also watch like Sports Center like four times, you know,

1580
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 6: like I'd watched the same Sports Center two or three

1581
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 6: times talking.

1582
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 4: About I'm talking about yeah TV.

1583
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 5: Back then, I used to play like trivia, you know,

1584
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 5: like name trivia, and like you'd have to name a

1585
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 5: player on like every team or something like that, and

1586
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 5: absolutely stuff like that.

1587
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 6: We had a thing where I knew all the backup

1588
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 6: goalies in the NHL, and people were getting a kick

1589
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 6: out of it, and they just were throwing them at

1590
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 6: me and I was just ralling them off. I couldn't

1591
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 6: tell you, kind of like the.

1592
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Speaker 4: Stupid number thing that they do to me and stuff

1593
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 4: like that.

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01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why.

1595
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 4: A gift we used to do like wiffleball leagues and

1596
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 4: everybody had the various helmets and that was the team

1597
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 4: that you played as whatever helmet you wore, Yeah, and

1598
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 4: then you batted right of your lefty, depending on the

1599
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 4: order of the team, what the batting order was. You know,

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Speaker 4: like yeah, you'd be.

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01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 6: Like Jim Rice. I'm like, I'm in the right area, right,

1602
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 6: Jim Rice.

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Speaker 4: Well that's a little easier when you had the Red Sox,

1604
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 4: everybody knew the Red Sox lineup. But you know when

1605
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: you're going like you know Kansas City and it's like

1606
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 4: Ul Washington and Frank White now know Hal McCrae, and

1607
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 4: you had a like which wait, they were all right,

1608
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 4: those were all right handed batters. The William L. Washington

1609
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 4: May have been a switch hitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, all right, I remember eighth five five

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01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: past five hundred is the ACE ticket hut Line web

1612
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot Com. Martin writes in he says,

1613
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: let's stop pining over thirty one year old year roles

1614
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: that have health, drug and attitudes. He's talking about d Hop.

1615
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: We have enough quality wide receivers in house that we

1616
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 1: don't need to use what money we have left over

1617
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,799
Speaker 1: to sign him. I think I'm just saying, you have Watson,

1618
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: uh Deshaun Watson throwing the rock and quarter uh O'Dell

1619
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: Beckham running the offense, and still he had to leave Houston.

1620
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: Then he's in Arizona with rai's and pay and has

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: health problems and now is out of a quarter. I

1622
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: don't know these people. I would rather develop the players

1623
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: we have and save the cash till after training camp

1624
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: in case of j or surprise cut brings about another

1625
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: Gem Agent receiver if we still can't get production, what

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01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: teams do?

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01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 5: They usually cut their good receivers at the end of

1628
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 5: training camp and they become available, right. That's that's how

1629
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 5: I hear that's common.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not really worried about the money, but

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01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 6: I hear the general sentiment, and I think, like my

1632
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 6: biggest fear would be that you know that somehow this

1633
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 6: might affect Taekwon Thornton's opportunities, and you know, are you

1634
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,919
Speaker 6: gonna hinder his development?

1635
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: Question? Do you feel the same way about the Patriots

1636
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: receiving room today as you did at the end of

1637
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: last season? Feeling like they need more there?

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 6: Pretty much? I mean, I I I'm a little intrigued

1639
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 6: by Kasiki, I'm a little intrigued by Juju, and I'm

1640
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 6: a little intrigued by Thornton. But am I is it

1641
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 6: going to be enough? I can't really say that. I

1642
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 6: feel that I agree with Mike. I feel like they

1643
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 6: need more, but I don't know if the Popkins is

1644
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 6: the more.

1645
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: I don't.

1646
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I agree with everything that you, Mike, you

1647
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 4: and Evan said earlier about Hopkins. I think he's better

1648
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: than Parker, and you guys know, I'm a little luke

1649
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 4: home on Parker, and I think his availability is probably

1650
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 4: what I'm most luke warmer about. But I just don't

1651
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 4: know if that's a huge difference maker, like going from

1652
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 4: what I think he's better. In other words, I've I've

1653
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 4: talked a lot about Juju Smith, Schuster and Jacoby Myers.

1654
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 4: I think a very similar players. I think there's a

1655
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 4: bigger gap between Hopkins and Parker. Yeah, if that makes

1656
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: any sense.

1657
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 5: This this grinds my gears about Patriots fans because I

1658
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 5: blame Bill, because I think Bill has convinced Patriots fans

1659
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 5: that receivers are a diamond dozen. He has convinced them

1660
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 5: that they can just go ahead like they used to

1661
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 5: at some points in time within the dynasty when it

1662
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 5: was you know, Troy Brown and David Gibbons and David Patton,

1663
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 5: and it wasn't this like star studded receiving group. And

1664
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 5: they think that that's going to win football games in

1665
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. Where the rest of the league is

1666
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 5: doing isn't an arms race, Like they're doing everything in

1667
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 5: their power to get good receivers in the building. And

1668
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 5: you hear Patriots fans a lot of the time be

1669
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 5: like I don't want the number one, Like I don't

1670
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 5: want that guy.

1671
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 6: I'd save the money.

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 5: Let's spread the ball around, like you know, throw what

1673
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 5: happened to throwing to the open man?

1674
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 4: Save the money thing? I know, I say this all

1675
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 4: the time, and I'm probably wrong. I feel like to

1676
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 4: save the money thing has permeated Boston sports and it

1677
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 4: drives me in saying I'll never understand why fans are

1678
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 4: concerned about how much money their owners make. I never

1679
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 4: get it. They're completely infatuated with it. If you think

1680
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 4: a guy can help your team, I don't know why

1681
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 4: you wouldn't want you to. Like I think two weeks ago,

1682
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 4: Evan said, this is perfect. You have the money, go

1683
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 4: out and be aggressive. Sign this guy. That's the mentality

1684
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 4: that I would always want to have as a fan.

1685
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 4: I'm not telling you this is the guy, but I'm saying,

1686
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 4: don't make him not be the guy because you just

1687
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 4: don't think he's worth that money. I'll tell you i'd

1688
01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 4: want him on my team. I think he'd helped my

1689
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 4: team at three million, not at ten million. I hate that.

1690
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 5: I hate that mentality. And you also just have the people.

1691
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 5: How many times have we gotten calls or emails into

1692
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,520
Speaker 5: the mail bag of they just have too many receivers

1693
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 5: like something like Kendrick Bourne to somebody's got to go.

1694
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 5: It's like they're not in a position to be cutting

1695
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 5: NFL receivers like Kendrick Bourne is an NFL receiver, Like,

1696
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 5: unless you're telling me that they have DeAndre Hopkins and

1697
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 5: Bolt the rookies pop and Malie Cunningham turns it like,

1698
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 5: at least you're telling me that they all of a

1699
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 5: sudden go from this to an embarrassment of riches. Why

1700
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 5: are we Jennison Kendrick Bourne like he's a good player,

1701
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 5: Like there's no reason to be throwing him away. I

1702
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 5: just there the warp perception of the wide receiver position

1703
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 5: is it's trying.

1704
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: Josha Dallas thinks the Patriots been making a big mistake

1705
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: if they don't sign Hopkins. But he wonders, does Billy

1706
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: O'Brien want him back?

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 6: I mean, it sounds like from reports that that he does,

1708
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 6: or that you know, he'd be open to it.

1709
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 6: I mean, I think I think everything you know Paul

1711
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 6: said is valid about you know, does he still have it?

1712
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 6: How much does he really actually move the needle? How

1713
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 6: much are we, you know, fantasizing that he's still a

1714
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 6: player that he might not be, but considering what they have,

1715
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 6: I just I don't really see the risk in it.

1716
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 6: And you know, I think to Paul, I was sinking

1717
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 6: about this a little bit with Parker, Like I've been

1718
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 6: struggling trying to pin Parker down. I think he would

1719
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 6: have been perfect as like Brendon Lafel, like when they

1720
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 6: had kind of the interior guys, like just that complimentary

1721
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 6: piece on the outside that you know, can go down,

1722
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 6: can stretch the field a little bit, can go up

1723
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 6: and get some contested catches, you know, can have some

1724
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 6: catch and run ability. But you know, I just think

1725
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 6: trying to make him the guy, it's just a volume issue.

1726
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 6: I don't think he's ever going to be a high volume,

1727
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 6: you know guy. He's a complimentary piece when you've got

1728
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 6: the inside pieces, and I think that's all he kind

1729
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 6: of is.

1730
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: We just talk a lot about like who's like the

1731
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 5: Tuesday player on the Patriots, Like when you get into

1732
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 5: a meeting room for an opposing defense, who's the guy

1733
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 5: that you're circling and they have some depth, they have

1734
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 5: some nice pieces, like you just kind of broke down

1735
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 5: DeVante Parker. I think a lot of guys fit that,

1736
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 5: but they still don't have that player where the coverage

1737
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 5: needs to tilt in that direction or we're gonna put

1738
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 5: our number one guy on DeAndre Hopkins because he's that good.

1739
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 5: And even if Hopkins just draws that attention just because

1740
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 5: he's DeAndre Hopkins, that just opens up everything else for everything,

1741
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 5: for everybody else. So it's not even necessarily just what

1742
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 5: does Hopkins bring to the table and the production that

1743
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 5: he brings to the table, it's the trickle down effect

1744
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 5: on what that's going to open up for the other

1745
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 5: guys that are also going to be out there. That's why,

1746
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 5: like Taekwon, I wouldn't be worried about Taekwon pairing with Hopkins.

1747
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 5: I'd be excited about Taekwon pairing with Hopkins because it's

1748
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 5: a complimentary player. So I think that they're still missing

1749
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 5: that piece, and just at a name recognition alone, I'm

1750
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 5: telling you, teams are going to come into those meeting

1751
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 5: rooms and be like, well if they still have DeAndre Hopkins,

1752
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 5: Like whether he's putting up numbers or not, I.

1753
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 6: Think he touched on it to him and it's just

1754
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 6: like it's not the actual football of it all, but

1755
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 6: just I mean to generate some buzz going into camp.

1756
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think that that's something you can

1757
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 6: just ignore and say isn't important to put some butts

1758
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 6: in the seats to build a little buzz for this

1759
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 6: Patriots team, you know, after a pretty good offseason, at

1760
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 6: least as far as the draft goes. I think, you know,

1761
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 6: that would help.

1762
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: To speed rights in and Fresnoe Fred with the fatherly

1763
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: advice about being in bed by midnight and Paul with

1764
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: the casual porn hub shout out good stuff, classic working Blue.

1765
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: Wonder if Hopkins getting popped for peds has teams wondering

1766
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: whether he can't perform at a high level without the jews.

1767
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: I wondered the same thing about Edelman when he got caught.

1768
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 6: Was that Now was he coming off an injury or something?

1769
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 1: Is it like Edelman was?

1770
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 6: Edelman was like he would like this speculation b he's using.

1771
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 4: Does it matter to get No, it doesn't, Like you know, Harris,

1772
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 4: this isn't another one of those things that like you

1773
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 4: believe in, like the right fifture Santa Claus things. Is

1774
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 4: it you think that guys take so they can get

1775
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: get back from injuries faster? No?

1776
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 6: Well that, but isn't that what Edelman did? Like that's

1777
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 6: what I was always talking different. He said, you know,

1778
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 6: I don't know, is there a line does it matter.

1779
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 6: I guess that's your point, right, Does it matter if

1780
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 6: you're taking him to get back faster if you're just

1781
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 6: permanently on them.

1782
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 4: Oh and one of my favorite patriots of all time,

1783
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 4: that was his excuse, Rodney, Yeah, that's what he said.

1784
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: You know the HGH with me right right right right,

1785
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: Shoddy from Houston. Did the fellow who didn't want Hopkins

1786
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: because of his drug suspension also want Edelman cut before

1787
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: the eighteen season brain Dead takes like that or why

1788
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: we are stuck with Miami's third choice wide receiver as

1789
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: our primary number one? Wow?

1790
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 4: That is funny.

1791
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 6: But I will say I think you know, you talk

1792
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 6: about game planning and stuff like, you know, what, what

1793
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 6: do they got in store with Kaziki and Henry and

1794
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 6: I mean they seem both very involved, and you know,

1795
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 6: is there enough there to mind to really create something

1796
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 6: like you were talking about Evan of Yeah, you know,

1797
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 6: not necessarily like oh god, we gotta figure out Kasicki,

1798
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 6: but just that this two tight end thing is kind

1799
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 6: of an issue and we need to figure out how

1800
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 6: we're going to match up with this. You know, when

1801
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 6: they go into that and you know, what can they

1802
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 6: do from it? You know, is it going to be

1803
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 6: like twenty twelve when they were, you know, trying to

1804
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 6: speed things up and go faster. I mean that was

1805
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 6: a nice little twist they had coming off of the

1806
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 6: off of the lockout. So those are the twists that

1807
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 6: I'm exciting y.

1808
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 5: I think, like just that's what got me so excited

1809
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 5: last week about Taekwond's practices. It's a spring practice with

1810
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 5: no pads, Like we're not getting too far ahead of ourselves,

1811
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 5: but he's the guy that has the talent to break

1812
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 5: out and elevate the rest of the group. Like I

1813
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 5: think everybody else is kind of do you already know

1814
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 5: what they are? Right? They're all just they're veteran guys.

1815
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 5: They've been around the league for a while. You know

1816
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 5: who everybody is. The person that can really take it

1817
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 5: to that next level is somebody like Taekwon. And I

1818
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 5: think the tight ends, if it's even if Hopkins isn't here,

1819
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 5: the tight ends being in the middle of the field

1820
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 5: with Juju, I think at least opens up the fact

1821
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 5: that he's going to get some one on one opportunities

1822
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 5: down the field, And that's all you can really ask for.

1823
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: Scott's and Wellesley on the aceticke A Hotline. What's up, Scott, Hey.

1824
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 17: Guys, I want to wish Paul a happy birthday.

1825
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 4: You know, Today's birthday, Paul Sunday. Sunday was supposed to

1826
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 4: bring them in.

1827
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 17: And also I enjoyed listening to Paul reminists about playing

1828
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 17: whipplebomb be each player, I mean, the two best guys

1829
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 17: to imitate where he has in present, Paul, don't you agree?

1830
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, the high bat over his head, yeah, they're

1831
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 4: good ones. But you could do Rick Burlson with the lean, yeah,

1832
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 4: you could do it was the thing to do, right.

1833
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 17: You could also do problem fisted when he put his

1834
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 17: arms up over his head, you know, to get ready

1835
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 17: and forever.

1836
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: But I used to do Jill Morgan like he snapped

1837
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: the elbow against his side just before.

1838
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 4: Or after you were like a Mets fan. The Mets

1839
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 4: win the title, that the Reds back then, Scott, I

1840
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 4: don't know if you know, but Fred just likes every

1841
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 4: team that wins the title.

1842
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: Shout out those.

1843
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 17: You know, get into the Patriots. I can't believe we're

1844
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 17: even debating whether DeAndre Hopkins is a good fit for

1845
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 17: this team. I mean, last year is first of all,

1846
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 17: anyone who's concerned about the pe ds. That's chilly to

1847
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 17: be concerned about that, because it's not like he's going

1848
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 17: to stop taking them. He's just hopefully he just won't

1849
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 17: get put So in some ways it's good because he shouldn't.

1850
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 17: He shouldn't get old quick Bay some of the guys

1851
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 17: who are actually not cheating, you know, in terms of

1852
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 17: like you know, they hid twelve for one, fifty nine

1853
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 17: against the Biking, ten for one or three against New Orleans.

1854
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 17: And if you look at his targets last year he

1855
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 17: had double digit targets. They were with terrible quarterbacks showing

1856
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 17: him the ball. Yeah, you worry about Jornton's world, and

1857
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 17: this is the guy who's what one hundred and sixty pounds,

1858
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 17: and you don't want to bring in a guy who would.

1859
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 10: Clearly be your number one receiver.

1860
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 17: Is really I just I find that really odd, And

1861
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 17: I don't like Paul. I couldn't care less about the money.

1862
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 17: I want to see this team make the playoffs and

1863
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 17: get better. So I'm just curious about what your thoughts

1864
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 17: to worry about that, and I want to test predator.

1865
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 17: Phill O'Brien questioned, Yeah, I think.

1866
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 4: The panel is largely in agreement with you. You know, Evan,

1867
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 4: especially about DeAndre Hopkins. I think he's better than Parker,

1868
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,799
Speaker 4: and I don't see why you bring him in. Wouldn't

1869
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 4: be interested in bringing him in.

1870
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: I would have rather had Jerry Judy, but he's not.

1871
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: We're not getting him. Bring him in. Bring in Hopkins. Yep,

1872
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: let's go to Jerry in North Carolina. What's up?

1873
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 10: Jerry was going on everybody, Hey, Jerry, I got a

1874
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 10: little rant to go on. I appreciate Evan for being

1875
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 10: in his dog bag because he's going off on these

1876
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 10: crazy fans, Like I don't understand how it makes sense

1877
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 10: to people not to sign DeAndre Hopkins and saying he's

1878
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 10: not a good fit when we have people here that

1879
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 10: don't even see the still.

1880
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 4: Is anybody said he's not a good fit or people

1881
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 4: wondering if he still has go ahead, Like, I don't

1882
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 4: really hear a lot of people saying he's not a

1883
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 4: good fit. I hear people wondering if he can run

1884
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 4: anymore because a lot of the national guys have sort

1885
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 4: of pulled some some personnel people around the league, and

1886
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 4: there are questions of whether or not he runs as

1887
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 4: well as he once did, and if maybe the the

1888
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 4: end is going to come quickly for him as a result,

1889
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 4: Like but that, that's that's where I think people are wondering.

1890
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 10: About we don't need him to run whell, we just

1891
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 10: need him to be a decoy to get taekwon open.

1892
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 4: Well, you're not going to be he can't run.

1893
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 1: Need more than that. I don't want to just come

1894
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: here and be a decoy.

1895
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 4: I want him to You're not going to be a

1896
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 4: decoy if you can't run, Like people will realize.

1897
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 10: He caught a lot of like double coverage last year,

1898
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 10: even with him being out, he was still almost a

1899
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 10: thousand yards. Well, then I don't understand how that doesn't

1900
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 10: make sense.

1901
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I think we I think we think it

1902
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 4: does make sense. But I'm saying I haven't heard a

1903
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 4: lot of people say he's not a good fit, Like

1904
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 4: he's not a good fit in this offense. I haven't

1905
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 4: heard that. I've heard people wondering if you if you

1906
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 4: could still play at a high level.

1907
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, And so my next thing is, is there

1908
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 10: any way we can get Paul's face on a T

1909
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 10: shirt that says what are we doing here? I would

1910
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 10: definitely bet that shirt.

1911
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 4: Wow, Jerry, I love you.

1912
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: Around North Carolina with a shirt. Who is that guy? Right?

1913
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 4: Might have Grandpa on your shirt.

1914
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 6: You'd be surprised. You might be in a random barn,

1915
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 6: Tennessee and all of a sudden there's some super fans there.

1916
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Mike knows, Mike the hop Let's see Tim. Our friend

1917
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,879
Speaker 1: from Duncan writes in I'm hearing all of the Hopkins

1918
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,799
Speaker 1: talk so quick question. I know you believe they should,

1919
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: but do you think the Patriots will be the team

1920
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: that signs him? Yes, you're saying.

1921
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 5: That, I'm believing. I'm like getting there too, dude.

1922
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 6: I just everything you said.

1923
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 4: It's just like.

1924
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 5: I don't know if Hopkins wants it. I don't know

1925
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 5: if deep down the Patriots really want it. But there's

1926
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 5: no like when the music stops, like it's the only

1927
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 5: chair left, like it's the everybody else has already made

1928
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 5: their moves, right like Buffalo drafted Dalton Kincaid. The Chiefs

1929
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 5: are just gonna let Patrick Mahomes fix everything, like everybody

1930
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 5: else has seemed to already have our you know, played

1931
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 5: their hand this offseason kind of except for the Patriots,

1932
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 5: like they haven't really made that big splash. Yet, and

1933
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 5: it's like musical chairs, like once it stops, there's two

1934
01:25:58,640 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 5: chairs left.

1935
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 6: Talking about the potential of this happening like immediately to

1936
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 6: start the off season, like this is Judy. I mean,

1937
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 6: all those things were what we've been talking about. I

1938
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 6: mean maybe I'm you know, being a little overly optimistic

1939
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 6: on it, but I just everything you said, it's just

1940
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 6: it feels like it might happen.

1941
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Well, how like if you're playing kind of that braksmanship

1942
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: type of you know, strategy, how long do you wait

1943
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, you know, like because you know,

1944
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: you figure the longer you wait till the more the

1945
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: price goes down a little bit. You know, So how

1946
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: long are you willing to risk it and wait, you know,

1947
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: get them in the hope that some other team doesn't

1948
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: swoop in.

1949
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 6: Well, the report was he was going to visit this week.

1950
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'd wait till next week. I'd get

1951
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 6: through everybody, get through many camps, OTAs, like all the

1952
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 6: off season stuff is done. So he's really any team

1953
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 6: he goes to, he's not jumping in and you know,

1954
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 6: and then make the offer, you know, around when they

1955
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 6: signed it, I.

1956
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: Can see them waiting until training camp.

1957
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. See, my feeling is and I understand the what

1958
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 4: Mike's point about the musical chairs and all that stuff,

1959
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 4: like you said earlier on the show. But I thought

1960
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 4: you said it earlier in the show about like it's

1961
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 4: gonna musical chairs. Okay, all right, Evans point. Evans point

1962
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 4: about the musical chairs.

1963
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: I'll just.

1964
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 4: Is is valid. I think that there's a lot of

1965
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of sense in that. I

1966
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 4: just feel like if that's the way it goes, then

1967
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 4: he's gonna look and say, well, if I have to

1968
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 4: take less to play somewhere, then I'll go to a good,

1969
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 4: you know, a good team. Like if I'm gonna play

1970
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 4: for the Patriots, They're gonna pay me. If I'm gonna

1971
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 4: play for Houston, They're gonna pay me even more. You

1972
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 4: know what I mean. If I if I'm gonna play

1973
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 4: for Kansas City, I'll take left. If I'm gonna play

1974
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 4: for Less, I'll go to the Chiefs. I'll go to

1975
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 4: the Bills, I'll go to the Cowboys. I'll go someone

1976
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 4: where I think, you know, might might be able to win.

1977
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm not saying that I don't think the

1978
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 4: Patriots can win. I'm trying to put myself and if you.

1979
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:53,839
Speaker 6: Have your choice.

1980
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: That makes sense, or if I have to take.

1981
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 4: Less, I'm going to go somewhere like Cleveland where I

1982
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: know the quarterback and I and I love playing for him.

1983
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 4: You know, I still think that there's a lot of

1984
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 4: hurdles to jump there.

1985
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about an incentive laden contract

1986
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: where you know, if he catches the ninety passes.

1987
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 4: He makes the Patriots fan what he makes's just give

1988
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:19,919
Speaker 4: him incentives.

1989
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: Now he makes a ton of money, But that that's

1990
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: risky because like if it becomes late November and he

1991
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: doesn't have his numbers and he doesn't feel like he's

1992
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: getting his touches, that could be a problem too. So

1993
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 1: I don't think they can go that way.

1994
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's got to feel like wanted and respected

1995
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 6: and it's got to be enough of that kind of offer.

1996
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 6: But I don't know, We'll see. I mean it's I

1997
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 6: know that Kansas City and Buffalo were initially at the

1998
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 6: top of the conversation, but now it's Cleveland and Houston

1999
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 6: or Patriots.

2000
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: The teams that really need, you know, Ray in Saint Louis,

2001
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: what's up? Family says of course there weren't social media

2002
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: back then when we got Moss, So could you explain

2003
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: to me how the media reacted when we got him

2004
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 1: and how it would compare if we got d hopped

2005
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: good luck? Well, no, no, back then, remember Moss had

2006
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: kind of worn out as welcome.

2007
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was questions whether or not Mosque still there

2008
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 4: were similarities.

2009
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: The word dog was used with him, like he was

2010
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 1: dogging it. He wasn't working hard, and that's why the

2011
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Patriots got him for fourth round pick.

2012
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 4: Frankly right, But there were definitely questions whether or not

2013
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 4: he could still play and if he could still run

2014
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and Fred's right, the biggest question is

2015
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 4: whether or not he wanted to play. Yeah, like if

2016
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 4: he just cared right, how many.

2017
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 6: Practices did you guys even see him in training? Not

2018
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 6: a ton like like three, because I remember that crystal

2019
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 6: clear of him like any it was a hamstring issue.

2020
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 6: I didn't practice.

2021
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 4: There was Hettom right in front of the No.

2022
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: One one hand right.

2023
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 4: No, that was that was against Revas and Jets game.

2024
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: I remember that.

2025
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 4: That was actually twenty Yeah, that was a different yeah.

2026
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 4: People think that was Yeah, actually the Patriots lost it.

2027
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 6: They did that was like the cap off the first half, and.

2028
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 4: That might have been like the Whiteboard game.

2029
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 6: No, that was that was twenty ten. This moss one

2030
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 6: was the twenty ten. Yeah, they took a lead right

2031
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 6: before half and then and there.

2032
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: Was but anyway, you know seven, like you immediately saw

2033
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: him just beating guys left and right, and then he

2034
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: tweaked something supposedly, and he didn't see him for the

2035
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: rest of camp.

2036
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 6: But there were rumors that were gonna cut him. I mean,

2037
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was Florio, it might have been,

2038
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 6: but I mean until he they unleashed him against the

2039
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 6: Jets and he just caught that.

2040
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Were the rumors that he were gonna

2041
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: cut him.

2042
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 6: I don't remember, seem to remember.

2043
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 5: Shot.

2044
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 4: Borges thought there was a I thought there was a

2045
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 4: chance when we didn't see him, because don't forget, he

2046
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 4: has a reputation for not wanting to play anymore, like

2047
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 4: not really working hard anymore, and then he misses the

2048
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 4: majority of he missed the entire preseason with a hamstring,

2049
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 4: Like I'm talking like three weeks. What's going on there?

2050
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 4: Four weeks with a hamstring, And I think Borges sort

2051
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 4: of was speculating. I don't think he reported that he

2052
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 4: will be released.

2053
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.

2054
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: Speculating that he could be a surprise cut. Well, I

2055
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 4: I just that was the one that stuck out to

2056
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 4: me was borgeous. And obviously everybody likes to pick on

2057
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 4: Borges because you know and all that. Well, I was

2058
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 4: a David Durell guy, so I can't.

2059
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 6: But I just remember feeling like there was some uncertainty

2060
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 6: going in that season of what what was actually going

2061
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 6: to happen. Then all of a sudden, I was I

2062
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 6: watched that game at Sonny McLain's Santa Monica and the

2063
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 6: place just I.

2064
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Mean, when nobody knew Welker was going to do what

2065
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: he did, and nobody knew that Moss was going to

2066
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: do what he did, and it all just Anyone who

2067
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: said I knew it right away is lying.

2068
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 6: But you talk like you go back to what me

2069
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 6: and Evan were talking with with with Hopkins and Thornton though,

2070
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 6: it's like just talk about such ideal complimentary pieces between

2071
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 6: Welker and Moss. But also you know, I think O

2072
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 6: nine showed that having some of those extra pieces too,

2073
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 6: like you know, made a big difference, Like Jabar Gafne

2074
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:58,839
Speaker 6: didn't have a ton of catches, but you know Stalwart

2075
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 6: didn't have a ton of catches either. But you know,

2076
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 6: some key times and some key games that last year,

2077
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 6: especially the Ravens with with Gaffney catching that the game

2078
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 6: when he touched down. But you know, like you had

2079
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 6: those guys that stepped up something didn't even though they

2080
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 6: had Moss and Welcome and O nine, they didn't really

2081
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 6: have like those secondary guys to step up and and

2082
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 6: fill that.

2083
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: Din't it.

2084
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 4: His standback?

2085
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 6: That was he was the one holding with number nine.

2086
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 4: That was like that was a white board.

2087
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 6: He was the whiteboard.

2088
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 4: See, that's that was. That was the prototypical Paul like

2089
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 4: Isaiah Washington. You know if he went to Washington.

2090
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: It's officially called the grease board the Greaseport, but we

2091
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: called it. You and I called it the white We

2092
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: called it the grease board.

2093
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 4: Game.

2094
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: I didn't.

2095
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 4: I called it the white port. Came still do well.

2096
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 5: It's funny though, because they now have all complimentary pieces,

2097
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 5: but they don't have a random you know, Parker.

2098
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 6: Would have been great if you put him one on

2099
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 6: this team.

2100
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. Brett wants to know, speaking of gambling,

2101
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 1: are you able to ga or and can you make

2102
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: gambling content? We can make gambling content, but we cannot.

2103
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 4: Cannot gamble on anything our This is the strangest thing

2104
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 4: that I've ever heard. Our restrictions are more stringent than

2105
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 4: the players. The players, as Mike said earlier in the show,

2106
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 4: can actually bet on other sports, just not from the facility.

2107
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 5: This time that was me.

2108
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 4: Okay, Evan said, a tough day because you think, yeah,

2109
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 4: I'm trying to I'm trying to write too much at

2110
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 4: the same time, I only have like eight hundred words

2111
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:34,560
Speaker 4: written to it.

2112
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 6: Wait, but I want to touch upon this because Evan,

2113
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 6: I feel like we discussed this with Evans. Evans lady

2114
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 6: who reviewed some of these, she's she's not a lawyer,

2115
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 6: but she plays one on TV. This is like kind

2116
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 6: of seems legally tenuous to say, like to enforce that, like.

2117
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, like you said a million

2118
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 4: times like.

2119
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: That we can't.

2120
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 6: But I couldn't go, like bet on a hockey game.

2121
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 6: I mean I don't, I won't. I don't know it.

2122
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 4: There's a difference between doing and I'm just saying like

2123
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 4: if if I was in you know, some kind of

2124
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 4: pool and they're making multi billions of dollars off of

2125
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 4: DraftKings and I can't be in a draft kings pool.

2126
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 4: That's a tough lawsuit to win when you fired me

2127
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 4: over it. Now, I'm not going to test it because

2128
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 4: I'm not an idiot, like I don't have you know, thankfully,

2129
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem as much as you know.

2130
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 4: Fred and I like to joke about it. I don't

2131
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 4: bet on games, and I really haven't for like probably

2132
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 4: since I was in college. Since seriously, I haven't bet

2133
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 4: on a game. It's like college.

2134
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 5: I'm so nervous about the whole thing that, like I

2135
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 5: don't let just place any bets. I don't place any bets.

2136
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 5: Like when Bart texts me about about bets, I'm like,

2137
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 5: stop texting me about bets, Like this is this is

2138
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 5: no joke. I mean, they're they're getting players left and right.

2139
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: But we can create as much content as we want.

2140
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 4: Which is hypocritical.

2141
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 5: Because the league is making money to.

2142
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: That was me not right.

2143
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 5: We're only making money off gambling, which I don't do.

2144
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 6: But no, and I'm happy that I never really got

2145
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 6: into it. I did a little bit of college football

2146
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 6: back just to but I'm glad now that I never

2147
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 6: really got into it. I got hooked on it because

2148
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 6: that would be tough.

2149
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a run. I used to live at

2150
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 1: this apartment on Commab and it was like six bedroom apartment.

2151
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: So like I tried to one day count all the

2152
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 1: different roommates I had because I lived there for five years,

2153
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: five or six years, and it was like way up there.

2154
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,799
Speaker 1: But for a while we were betting with a bookie

2155
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: and it got a little crazy at one point.

2156
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, owe some money.

2157
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Not me, not me, but like some of the guys.

2158
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2159
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 6: When I went to my Hope, my recruiting trip at

2160
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 6: holy Cross, that my guy that I was staying with

2161
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 6: was on the phone with his bookie the whole weekend long.

2162
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 6: I'm like, you're a college kid, Like, where do you

2163
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 6: get money.

2164
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: To like bet on stuff? Oh that's the point.

2165
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 4: They don't.

2166
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: They don't have it.

2167
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 6: They're trying to get it back.

2168
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: I was talking to a kid from bu we were

2169
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: in a bar across the street, and he said that

2170
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: he was so behind that he had to give up

2171
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: his car are to the bookie.

2172
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

2173
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yikes.

2174
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 4: I wouldn't work in ever.

2175
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: David and Bethlehem about the wide receiver room. Who will

2176
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: fill the room? Will Thornton have one hundred catches? And ps?

2177
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 1: Mike is right about Hopkins and Watson Tingle they shared

2178
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: phone numbers. O'Brien did not like those guys in the

2179
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: locker room.

2180
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 6: I don't know, did him and want? Were him and

2181
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 6: Watson very very close?

2182
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 4: I think, I don't say, maybe Watson in Hopkins That's

2183
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 4: what he said. Yeah, that the speculations that he would

2184
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 4: go to Cleveland to be like I think if he

2185
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 4: didn't have quote unquote a contender option, they would go

2186
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: to Cleveland to play for Watson because, yeah, they had

2187
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 4: a great relationship.

2188
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: Let's see. James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan in

2189
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: the world, says, can you ask Evan exactly what Maphu

2190
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: is doing at this very moment.

2191
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 6: Studying breaking?

2192
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 5: No, I don't know right at this very moment, but

2193
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 5: I have a Marty Mapu. I'm not gonna lie I

2194
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 5: do too.

2195
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 6: I just like watching him, I do. I mean, I think,

2196
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 6: I mean it was interesting seeing him play kind of

2197
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 6: more in the safety I mean started right at the top.

2198
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 6: He was with the safety group in warm ups, you know,

2199
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 6: just when they're doing their little ball drills. And you

2200
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 6: know it was was rotating through, did a little of

2201
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 6: everything on the back end too.

2202
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 5: So they tried to hit him with a misdirection play

2203
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 5: today and he just didn't take the cheese and they

2204
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 5: just shot out of a cannon and he just like,

2205
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 5: you know, you can't actually hit people right now, So

2206
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 5: he just kind of like two hand touched him. And

2207
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 5: you just saw that like swagger, like I would have

2208
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 5: made that play, like you know, and I I just

2209
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 5: I love the mental side of it, like you can

2210
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 5: tell that he knows what he's looking at, which is

2211
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 5: for these rookies, that's like seventy five percent of the battle.

2212
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:47,879
Speaker 5: All of them can run, all of them are athletic,

2213
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 5: but can you actually go out there and play football?

2214
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 5: It is the real question you break it.

2215
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 6: It's just gonna be interesting because he's tall and he's thin,

2216
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 6: like he just he's gonna have a unique kind of

2217
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 6: look within the defense no matter where he's playing. He

2218
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 6: just doesn't. I mean, he almost looks more to me

2219
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 6: like Juwan Williams than like Dugger or certainly Peppers.

2220
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 5: You know, it's just he's not as interesting as Peppers

2221
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 5: or Phillips. Maybe I think he's probably pretty similar to

2222
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 5: Dugger in terms of measurements.

2223
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 6: Maybe a little thinner.

2224
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cody's in West Virginia. What's up, Nakody?

2225
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 18: Can you guys hear me?

2226
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 8: All right?

2227
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do I have your first name? Right? Is it Nicody?

2228
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2229
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 5: It is?

2230
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,839
Speaker 18: Okay, I might have a question and I have a statement.

2231
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 18: Since we were speaking on Hopkins, I did see that.

2232
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,879
Speaker 18: I think it was Phil Perry that said that Hopkins

2233
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 18: wasn't a good fit for the Patriots.

2234
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I corrected, then, is it was Ralph? I think

2235
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 4: manasses No there, I didn't see a lot of bad

2236
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 4: fit other than he doesn't practice liked the same.

2237
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 5: I don't think he's saying that he's Phil is saying

2238
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 5: he's a bad schematic football fit. He's saying his personality

2239
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 5: is not. He's not a culture guy.

2240
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 4: I probably misunderstood what Ralph was saying. It makes more

2241
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 4: sense because I thought we were talking about in terms

2242
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 4: of how we played, like he's an ex receiver and

2243
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 4: they don't. I don't want that, you know. I think

2244
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 4: he's exactly what they need to be honest, get.

2245
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 6: Open and catch the ball.

2246
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: And if you have a strong locker room, you can

2247
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: absorb that.

2248
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 4: You can you can do that?

2249
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 1: Listen, Moss was no, I don't know, I said, if

2250
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, Moss wasn't any you know, walk in the park.

2251
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: Brady spent a lot of time one on one with him,

2252
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 1: keeping him in line, believe it or not, because he

2253
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: was a pied piper. He could easily have taken some

2254
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: of that locker room in the wrong direction.

2255
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 6: And you know, I think he did in twenty ten

2256
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 6: and it was what was starting to happen him.

2257
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took a lot of tender loving care Moss did.

2258
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it's worth it.

2259
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Floyd writes in from Redford, Michigan. Entering year three after OTAs,

2260
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: there was a buzz around Justin Fields for both his

2261
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: noticeable improved play and leadership. Should have should the Patriots

2262
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: have moved up three spots to draft him, had Fields

2263
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: fell to number fifteen with the Patriots have chosen Fields over,

2264
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: he calls him teflon Mac.

2265
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 6: Sorry exact, I'm not really lamenting Justin Fields yet, although

2266
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 6: he played great here last year.

2267
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 5: Looks great and shorts, Yeah, he needs to show some.

2268
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 4: A ability to throw the football on a more consistent basis,

2269
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 4: and more importantly, an ability to win some games. For

2270
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 4: all of the incredible individual performances he put put forth

2271
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 4: over the last half of the season, they didn't win

2272
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 4: any of those games. So yeah, I think we're all

2273
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 4: kind of clouded by that performance he had on the

2274
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 4: Monday night game here when he did win the game,

2275
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 4: but that only happened two other times.

2276
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not Mac. Can we let's talk at

2277
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 6: the end of the season. Maybe, I think that'd be

2278
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 6: a good comparison to look at after this third.

2279
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 4: Out for both of the If you're asking me what

2280
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 4: I would I would rather have, I would take fields.

2281
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 4: But he hasn't proven that.

2282
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 1: He's just bigger question mark as Mac Tyler and Providence.

2283
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Evan is one hundred percent correct in saying the Patriots

2284
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 1: should do everything in their power to sign Hopkins.

2285
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 4: Mike actually said and here's why he was the.

2286
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 6: Musical chairs guy.

2287
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, Juju had his best season, playing robin

2288
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown's batman. Juju finished the year with over

2289
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards and Brown had nearly thirteen hundred. And

2290
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: this was during Antonio Brown's age thirty season. The Patriots

2291
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,839
Speaker 1: have had much better depth than the Steelers had in eighteen.

2292
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 1: They had Vance McDonald, Ryan Switzer, James Washington. Big Ben

2293
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: is a better quarterback than Mac at this point. But

2294
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 1: if Mac is given a top five group around him,

2295
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: we'll see without a doubt if he can do it

2296
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: in this league. By paying up for Hopkins, the Patriots

2297
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: could realistically get the most out of all their offense

2298
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: this season.

2299
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 4: Who plays the role of Antonio Brown.

2300
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 5: In this prime in this scenario, thirty one year old

2301
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins.

2302
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 4: He says, but if we cannot add hops who had

2303
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 4: his peak was not Antonio Brown in his peak.

2304
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: But if we cannot add Hopkins, at least we will

2305
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 1: have him this year.

2306
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 6: There you go.

2307
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 5: I don't subscribe to the they have to sign Hopkins

2308
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 5: to see what they have in Mac Jones. I just

2309
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 5: subscribed to they should sign Hopkins because it makes him

2310
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 5: a better football team.

2311
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 6: Like, regardless of what are you trying to do, what's

2312
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 6: best for the team.

2313
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 5: I sometimes we don't do that gymnastics with me.

2314
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 6: There, that's true. I mean I agree with everything he says,

2315
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 6: like I just I just don't know if he's still

2316
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 6: the guy, you know, And that's the only trepidation I

2317
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 6: have about signing him, is is he still the guy,

2318
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 6: and are we wasting our time, you know, to try

2319
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 6: to extend his career a year and he doesn't deliver?

2320
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 6: What you know, how disappointed are people going to be

2321
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 6: if he signed DeAndre Hopkins and he catches like thirty

2322
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 6: five passes really just you know, just like can't can't

2323
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 6: really do it anymore and he's fading. That's what that's

2324
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 6: that's my fear.

2325
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Give him some some of the juice. Little juice'll be fine.

2326
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: Let's see Stephen Maine quick over under game ready? Yeah?

2327
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Mac touchdown passes this year? Here, twenty five over?

2328
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 4: Better be over? Over, better be old?

2329
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 5: Definitely, I'm not ready to say over yet.

2330
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: Remandre rushing touchdowns.

2331
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 5: Eight, I'm gonna say over to that, Yeah, say over

2332
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 5: to that.

2333
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say under.

2334
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 4: And they're in trouble, then, oh yeah, what if somebody

2335
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 4: else gets them?

2336
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 1: You always say, Paul, it doesn't matter who scores.

2337
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 5: So Mack had twenty two his rookie year.

2338
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he doesn't have twenty five, and that's an

2339
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 4: abject disaster.

2340
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,759
Speaker 5: But then Damien Harris had like fifteen fifteen on the ground,

2341
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 5: I think we see something similar.

2342
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 1: Uh Taekwan receiving yards eight hundred under.

2343
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say under, but hopefully not too much.

2344
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:42,679
Speaker 1: I think he gets them all in one game against

2345
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: the Jets.

2346
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 4: That would be the way they do it, so it

2347
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 4: counts for one game.

2348
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 5: Right, sacks ten, I'm gonna say over.

2349
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say over on that too. I'm gonna buy

2350
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 4: on him.

2351
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 1: Is a guy who gets ten sacks? Or is he

2352
01:43:58,680 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 1: a ten sack guy?

2353
01:43:59,600 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 10: How?

2354
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 6: Let you know when I see how he blew by

2355
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 6: City Sou and a rep today on city like, boy.

2356
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 5: City, the rep happens, josh uch, just like couldn't didn't

2357
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 5: even get a hand on him. City Soud turns to

2358
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 5: Adrian clem and Adrian clembs like, welcome to the NFL.

2359
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 6: Dude, Like good, yeah, well, I mean that's like everything

2360
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 6: you think. City Sow is gonna like it's just a

2361
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 6: little speed rush.

2362
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2363
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 5: It was a funny exchange. You could see that's in

2364
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 5: his city, Soal's brain he was like, holy crap, did

2365
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 5: you see that?

2366
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 6: But in French?

2367
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2368
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 6: Mom, dot is hee French French?

2369
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Can I call him pig in an urban setting? Urban setting,

2370
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 1: City Sow.

2371
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 4: I'm not even paying attention to That made me laugh.

2372
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 6: I'm gonna call him at all your you know, the

2373
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 6: pig in the urban setting did pretty good job.

2374
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 4: It's a long way to Grandma's house.

2375
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: But urban setting. Uh, let's see and final over under

2376
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: wins eight and a hay under.

2377
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 6: Oh no, I'm going over.

2378
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 5: I'm going over to nine wins.

2379
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm my my prediction right now, and I've been

2380
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 1: very accurate over the last few years. Nine and seven,

2381
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: nine to seven right now.

2382
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 4: Okay, so what happens in the other games?

2383
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 1: Oh, that's sixteen, nine and eight, nine and eight, nine wins,

2384
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 1: nine wins.

2385
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 4: I mean I say eight and you say nine, and

2386
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 4: it's like, I'm like, oh, tough, tough, Like I don't

2387
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 4: think they're going like four and thirteen or anything. Oh,

2388
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 4: I just well eight and a half, I said, under,

2389
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 4: I think.

2390
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 1: But if they did go thirteen, would you be like

2391
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 1: shocked out of your head?

2392
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would be. Okay, it's a lot of bad

2393
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 4: teams in football.

2394
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think a Bill Belichick coach team

2395
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 5: is ever gonna be.

2396
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of bad teams on their

2397
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 1: schedule this year.

2398
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll find some wins.

2399
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 6: I think six is the Bill the Bill basement, like

2400
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 6: I don't think he could coach a team that.

2401
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 5: Was I mean, they won seven games with Cam Newton

2402
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 5: covid Cam Newton's corpse.

2403
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 4: The schedule is a lot tougher than that, But yeah,

2404
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 4: i'd be I mean four would stun me like six wouldn't. No,

2405
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 4: but four four is really bad. Four means you lost

2406
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 4: to like the Washington's and the Pittsburgh's and maybe even

2407
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 4: the Indies.

2408
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Like yeah, Jamie writes in, so let's play the game.

2409
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 1: If we do end up with DeAndre Hopkins, what do

2410
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: the Patriot what does the Patriots wide receiver room look like?

2411
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: Who becomes a cut trade candidate?

2412
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 4: Parker Parker?

2413
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I still think they like Parker more than

2414
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 6: any of us do. Though.

2415
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 4: Then that's all. I don't think there's any doubt all,

2416
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 4: you know, But.

2417
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 6: I just think that's the only one that really makes

2418
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 6: sense because he's just an outside guy, and you know,

2419
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 6: I think you need some depth with Bourn in the middle,

2420
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 6: and Thornton can maybe go inside and outside. So probably Parker.

2421
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 6: I try to trade him, but you know, what are

2422
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 6: you gonna get trade him? Yeah? Like a fourth I mean,

2423
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 6: but they what they trade to get him?

2424
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 5: I wonder if you could trade to one of those

2425
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 5: like we're probably not going to keep this guy, and

2426
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 5: you're probably not going to keep that guy, and you

2427
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 5: end up trading for somebody that fills a hole someplace else,

2428
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 5: one of those types of truth.

2429
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: Let's see Darpan from New York City Rights in Longtime Listener.

2430
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: But he has a bone to pick with Evan, although

2431
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: before he has he picks the bone. He says he's

2432
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: been a great addition to the show.

2433
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 5: Just picked, get to the bone, take your pleasantries.

2434
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: He says he actually takes a stand on topics and

2435
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,839
Speaker 1: is willing to stand up to Paul while Fred watches

2436
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 1: in gleat.

2437
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 4: That's accurate.

2438
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 5: So here's our Celtics argument.

2439
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was.

2440
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2441
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Evan has been very clear that the Patriots should give

2442
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 1: whatever Hopkins wants to get him in the building. But

2443
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 1: we are not talking about robots that play football here.

2444
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,679
Speaker 1: We're talking about people, and everything cannot be just about

2445
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: x's and o's. Hopkins should have been a valuable asset

2446
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: for rebuilding Arizona, but they cut him just to get

2447
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 1: him out of the building, which tells you something about

2448
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: the person. He has a reputation as a bit of

2449
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 1: a malcontent, and when you hand the bag to someone

2450
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 1: like that, it's a recipe for potential disaster. See Kyrie Irving,

2451
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Russell Wilson. Stay tuned for Aaron Rodgers. For

2452
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 1: a young team like this, especially on offense, when last

2453
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 1: season highlighted maturity concerns as they lashed out in the

2454
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 1: face of adversity, in the one before highlighted toughness concerns

2455
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 1: as they faded over the stretch. Is it wise to

2456
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: make someone like Hopkins one of the leaders of this

2457
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: offense by giving them all the cash because cash is

2458
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: cachet to a lot of people. We do that and

2459
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 1: then comes the mispractices, the whining when he doesn't get

2460
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 1: enough targets in the game, etc.

2461
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 5: Just to be clear, the Cardinals part of ways with

2462
01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins because the Cardinals are tanking because they're like

2463
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 5: they're not rebuilding this year. Their quarterback is not going

2464
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 5: to be back maybe all year, and I don't even

2465
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 5: know if he's going to be the quarterback there going forward,

2466
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 5: because if they get the number one pick, then Caleb

2467
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 5: Williams might be their quarterback going for it. So the

2468
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 5: Cardinals are are full tank mode, and DeAndre Hopkins is

2469
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 5: not a player you want on a team that you're

2470
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 5: trying to win three games with. So I don't think

2471
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,560
Speaker 5: they cut him because he's a malcontent or any of

2472
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 5: those other things. But yeah, you run that risk that

2473
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 5: you give him money. And its just to be clear,

2474
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 5: I don't think that the Patriots should make DeAndre Hopkins

2475
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 5: the highest paid receiver in football, stupid like that, but

2476
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 5: you run that risk. But I think the Patriots are

2477
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 5: in a position as an organization and as a team

2478
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 5: where that is a necessary risk at this point in time.

2479
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 1: What do we make of Bill's seemingly seeming infatuation with

2480
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 1: him over the years.

2481
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 6: I mean that's and that for me is a big

2482
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 6: factor because I think you've seen it dozens of times

2483
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 6: where he's willing to take a shot at a really

2484
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 6: good football player that you know near the end of

2485
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 6: the line. I mean Chad Johnson, Albert Haynesworth. I mean,

2486
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes they've worked, sometimes they have a moss.

2487
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 16: You know.

2488
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 6: That to me is a key factor. I continuing Evan's point,

2489
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 6: like they're not gonna hand him a bag, like they're

2490
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 6: the I mean, they can't like afford to make him like, no,

2491
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 6: this is the centerpiece of our organization. The point he's

2492
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 6: at now, and why we think it's possible is because

2493
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 6: they might be able to get him for a reasonable amount.

2494
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 6: As far as reasonable money goes. When you're paying a

2495
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 6: very good wide receiver in the NFL, I mean it

2496
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:31,719
Speaker 6: will be a significant number.

2497
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 5: Of How much would you pay him, I'd I'd give

2498
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 5: him what the Ravens gave out.

2499
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 6: Sure, Sure, you know, a couple of years, Maybe give

2500
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 6: him a maybe give him a one of those stupid

2501
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 6: void years in order to spread it out a little bit.

2502
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 5: I would do it on it. I would do multiple

2503
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 5: years because I wouldn't.

2504
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: Want that money.

2505
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 6: You want to do like one year straight up?

2506
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:54,679
Speaker 5: No, No, I would do two years, thirty million dollars

2507
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 5: with basically just the first year guaranteed and a signing bonus.

2508
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 4: So that would have carried a little bit more weight

2509
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 4: when the guys that he was supposed to be ripping

2510
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 4: as malcontents, most of which won championships, like it would

2511
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 4: have carried a little bit more cachet to me. If

2512
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 4: you don't use Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, and Kevin Durant

2513
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 4: as three of your examples of why you don't want

2514
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 4: to do that. Guys that won titles like you don't

2515
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 4: want that around here? Like yes, only one that that that,

2516
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 4: and even he even he won a title. What am

2517
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 4: I talking about?

2518
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 5: You can't bring up Kyrie Irving in these Kyrie Irving

2519
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 5: is on his own different planet.

2520
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: Like literally, but I mean it thinks the world is flat.

2521
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 4: Let's just ask and I'll ask you, Fred if they

2522
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 4: brought DeAndre Hopkins here and he spent three years here

2523
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 4: and was a unbelievable malcontent, but in those three years

2524
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 4: they want a title, would you be okay with it?

2525
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Well?

2526
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 6: How much did they pay him?

2527
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't matter.

2528
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 4: I mean I get like that. There's guys with a

2529
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 4: pattern like Kyrie that I wouldn't touch right now for anything.

2530
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 4: I don't think the other three guys that he listed

2531
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,719
Speaker 4: are in that level, and I certainly don't think Hopkins

2532
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 4: is anywhere near that level. Hopkins competes, he plays hard,

2533
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 4: Like even that stupid fumble he had on the Monday

2534
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 4: Night game last year against the Patriots, yep, Like that

2535
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 4: wasn't because he wasn't trying. That was because he had

2536
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,560
Speaker 4: the ball like a little bit looking he had in

2537
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 4: one hand, but he was trying to get extra yards

2538
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 4: on that play.

2539
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2540
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying he's perfect, and I'm not saying

2541
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 4: he's not any of the things that the email, because

2542
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 4: I do have some concerns in the locker room about

2543
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 4: him a little bit, But I wouldn't say I'm not

2544
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 4: going to give him any money because of that.

2545
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 6: Well, it's just like I feel like these emails are

2546
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 6: directed towards like the initial conversation around Hopkins, which was

2547
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 6: that everybody was gonna want him and it was going

2548
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 6: to be a bidding war, and that you were going

2549
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 6: to have to give him to make a huge investment.

2550
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 6: I mean, that's not the situe.

2551
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm not going to describe this quote to either one

2552
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 4: of you because I keep doing it wrong. But one

2553
01:52:55,960 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 4: of you said weeks and weeks ago that clearly the

2554
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 4: NFL didn't like he was available for anybody. Sounds like

2555
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 4: Evan and clearly the NFL didn't agree. Like you could

2556
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 4: have had him for like a seventh round pick.

2557
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 5: They're going to get him for less.

2558
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 4: But now you're going to get him for less than

2559
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 4: the nineteen million it would have cost you. Right, he's

2560
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 4: not getting nineteen probably isn't going to get the fifteen

2561
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 4: that obij got.

2562
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 1: Paul and Arkansas writes in first of all, he says,

2563
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: are you guys going back to three shows a week?

2564
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 1: Once the season starts? We do the week of the

2565
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 1: first game. Before the first game, we go back to

2566
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 1: three shows a week. He also thinks h Hopkins signs

2567
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Hopkins Hopkins lost out on a round

2568
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: thirty million over the next two years by being cut,

2569
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: and he's never finished a contract with a team. I

2570
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: think he's looking for guarantees, and the Patriots can offer

2571
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 1: the most right now and in the future with a

2572
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:48,679
Speaker 1: two to three year.

2573
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 4: Deal, the most as opposed to who.

2574
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I wouldn't guarantee you. Why are

2575
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 1: years worth of money?

2576
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 8: No?

2577
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 4: No way, no, But like I don't he's.

2578
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 6: Not really in a position of power right now. It's

2579
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,759
Speaker 6: it's I mean, I imagine he's hiring an agent because.

2580
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 1: He really can.

2581
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 4: I don't think his contract is going to be.

2582
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 6: Like if someone else signs him, everyone will be like,

2583
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 6: we couldn't do that, Like that's the you're talking.

2584
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 4: I don't think his contract is going to be like, oh, well,

2585
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 4: that's rad That's why Cleveland got him, because they gave

2586
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 4: him three times as much as anybody else's. I don't

2587
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 4: think that's what's going to happen. I think whatever he

2588
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 4: signs for, any team could have signed him for, it'll be.

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Speaker 6: Like two years, twenty three million or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like what all right?

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Speaker 1: All right, well listen, that's going to be it for

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Speaker 1: this edition.

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Speaker 4: Four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: I got things to do. I got things to do.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to wrap it up. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on Thursday at our regular time at noon, and then

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Speaker 1: Catch twenty two immediately following. Is that right out?

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Speaker 4: So you want to work shot in the air, Well,

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Speaker 4: we're thinking about doing Catch twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Just choose when you want to do it now, but

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Speaker 1: don't it out to Patrick Hopkins on the staff.

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Speaker 6: Now, just check your emails.

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Speaker 4: Shot. We're thinking about Catch twenty two after the practice

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Speaker 4: on Friday. What do you think it's in your so

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Speaker 4: they have more to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Okay, were waiting to talk to you about it.

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Speaker 1: Special edition.

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Speaker 4: So that's just have to make sure we promote that

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Speaker 4: so people know, well, we want to make sure we

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Speaker 4: check with you first, but during the break.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what it's in your will see you Thursday.

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