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Speaker 4: Oh what is going on? Welcome in here as we

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Speaker 4: get you all set for a full slate, full slate

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Speaker 4: of college football over here. If you believe the season

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Speaker 4: is winding down, but it is, but we're gonna be positive.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be positive as we're looking toward the

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Speaker 4: college football playoff and we've got the ultimate game of

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Speaker 4: musical chairs. Who's going to be left without a seat

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Speaker 4: when the music stops. We'll get into all of that.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into James Franklin, brand new head coach at

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Speaker 4: Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about thought it?

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Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin. It's obvious, right, gonna be the new head

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Speaker 5: Is it not right?

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Speaker 4: Like that's now we're waiting until after the Egg Bowl

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Speaker 4: next week.

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Speaker 5: The prediction markets already have it nailed.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, what they're betting on LSU?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that that he's going to go to LSU.

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Speaker 2: And and these.

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Speaker 5: Prediction markets have gotten pretty accurate with this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's just obvious, man, Like, listen, you know if it's

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Speaker 4: you know, it's November in South Bend, Indiana and it's

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Speaker 4: a really dark, cloudy day.

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Speaker 2: It's rain.

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Speaker 4: I don't want it to rain. It's gonna rain, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Like that's how I feel with Lane Kiffin. It's just

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Speaker 4: it's like walking outside, You're like, wow, the sky is

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Speaker 4: sky is like an LSU sky And I walk out

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's gonna LSU today. It's gonna that's Lane.

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Speaker 4: Lane is going to LSU. Man, Like the handwriting is

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Speaker 4: on the wall. He's not going back to Ole Miss.

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Speaker 4: He's leaving and he's taking a power job at LSU.

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Speaker 4: And I'd be stunned if it goes any other way

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, you know what's funny is I think.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, before we talk about what this

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Speaker 6: means for LSU and Lane Kiffin and you know, sort

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Speaker 6: of all of the facets you can look through this, uh,

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Speaker 6: because I would love your guys thoughts on this. I mean,

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Speaker 6: this has always been a part of the game, right

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Speaker 6: we're going back to two thousand and four when I

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Speaker 6: even what conference Penn State plays in, you know, because

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Speaker 6: I didn't grow up in a college football family. I

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Speaker 6: was indoctrinated into this world when I started playing football

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Speaker 6: But I digress to say, like I've learned a lot

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Speaker 6: I've learned is that there's a sort of acceptable nature

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Speaker 6: you get to take your resume which whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: That's just the way it works.

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Speaker 2: You know, the nil money.

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Speaker 6: You know, part of this deal with LSU is Lane

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Speaker 6: Ole Miss is going to have you know, some sort

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Speaker 6: of money that is about to change hands over Lane

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Speaker 2: Uh, now you know it's it's it's.

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Speaker 6: Such a it's such a crazy thing that that it's

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Speaker 6: but they sort of accept it as part of the game.

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Speaker 6: Why is it so different when it's players? Why does

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Speaker 5: I agree honestly that that that is a very unique

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Speaker 5: the players. I mean, for example, Lane's about to be

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Speaker 5: Smart Like it's going to be thirteen million. That's what

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Speaker 5: Like now it's a double edge sword. Now you not

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Speaker 5: a great job reporting this stuff, Pete Nakos and their team,

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Speaker 5: and that is probably going to be the news outlet

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Speaker 5: does look like Lane to Lsu and that was the

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Speaker 5: that's the backup plan. That would be one heck of

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Speaker 5: Chesney is from central Pennsylvania, I think that matters. I

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Speaker 5: Lane holds all the cards. I don't think any of

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Speaker 5: then yesterday you had the Kaitlin debor chaos scenario get

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Speaker 5: then the Alabama fans like, wait a minute, we've been

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Speaker 5: you're already asking for a race. So I there's so

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Speaker 5: who holds all the cards. In this entire scenario. Nothing

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Speaker 5: does look like that is imminent.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's get to the nitty gritty, all right, we've

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Speaker 4: delayed it long enough. I don't know what takes that long.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame. That's what the heart, that's what's on the

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Speaker 5: Yea, they're playing syirqu say, thirty five point favorite. That's

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Speaker 4: Not that college football playoff standings over here, So Notre

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Speaker 4: Dame ranked number nine. What's crazy is we're getting closer

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Speaker 4: and closer to this knockdown dragout already to being an

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Speaker 4: right now, the committee, the playoff Committee, the chair, the

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Speaker 4: new chair. Right we had the old chair get replaced

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Speaker 4: by the new chair. The new chair is saying that

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Speaker 4: yet because they're not even close to each other in

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Speaker 4: to me. They're looking at the quality losses. Of course,

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Speaker 4: great wins. They beat Notre Dame. But at some point,

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Speaker 4: I'm from South Bend. I hate to say any of

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Speaker 4: These Miami arguments and what are they talking to? Look

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know what's interesting.

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Speaker 6: I was reading an article that Fox put out where

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Speaker 6: Joel Klatt said that the committee made a mistake of

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Speaker 6: ranking Notre Dame above Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, look at look at the quality wins from Alabama, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Reason to see bias. The hell of a drug guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's right now, and.

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Speaker 6: That's true, you know, And I think that's something where Look,

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Speaker 6: we can all drink that kool aid from time to

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Speaker 2: Everybody can. We're all humans.

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Speaker 6: We're all watching this game through our own perspective or

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's weird to really think about life this way, but

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Speaker 6: you do kind of create your own reality when I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and you know what there is going to

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Speaker 2: And it's gonna be, in this.

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Speaker 6: Case, twelve teams and we're gonna have them all loaded

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Speaker 6: And then, frankly, once a champion is is named a

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Speaker 6: But that's how the sports mind works. It's all recency bias.

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Speaker 5: And I agree with Brian about the recency bias thing.

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Speaker 5: There needs to be some kind of level balance with

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Speaker 4: No, it's certainly not.

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Speaker 4: Tennessee against Florida today and uh, man, Tennessee not great,

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Speaker 4: not great. In the swamp over there in Gainesville, we

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Speaker 4: were talking an eleven game losing streak. The last time

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Speaker 4: that Tennessee beat Florida in Gainesville. We're talking two thousand

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Speaker 4: and three. That a long time ago, man, But uh now,

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Speaker 4: we're looking at Tennessee, ranked team seven and three on

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Speaker 4: the season, taking down taking on a lowly three and

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Speaker 4: seven Gators team head coach has been fired, right Like

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Speaker 4: the quarterback play hasn't been good with DJ Lagway. They

462
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Speaker 4: are a sitting duck right here. But hey, the betting public,

463
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Speaker 4: they've been loading up on the Gators here. They're down

464
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Speaker 4: to a three and a half point home dog. And

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Speaker 4: for Tennessee, I always think this, man, Tennessee's defense is awful, awful,

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing. When you're on the road with

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Speaker 4: an awful defense, sometimes really hard to cover any number.

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Speaker 4: And the three and a half doesn't sound like a

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Speaker 4: whole lot until you start like, oh man, are we

470
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Speaker 4: gonna get stops at any point here? Like, yeah, it

471
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Speaker 4: could be really tough for Tennessee, even in this spot

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Speaker 4: to get this win and cover this spread.

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Speaker 6: You know, I look at Tennessee like a lot of

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Speaker 6: people do. On paper, they seem like they're a really

475
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Speaker 6: good offense, and I think overall that that is true.

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Speaker 6: But when you dig in and you analyze the games

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Speaker 6: and their their statistical achievements a little bit deeper, they're

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Speaker 6: not a highly efficient offense. You know, they will have

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00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 6: sort of fits and starts throughout the season, and by

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Speaker 6: the way, mostly starts.

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Speaker 2: They've they've been good.

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Speaker 6: They've been good a big portion, but against the better competition,

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Speaker 6: they can struggle at times, especially when they're knocked off schedule.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if.

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Speaker 6: You look at the Tennessee volunteers on early downs, if

486
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Speaker 6: they're if they're doing a good job setting themselves up

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Speaker 6: for you know, second medium and then third and short

488
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Speaker 6: to third and manageable, they're really good.

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Speaker 2: They're they're very efficient offense.

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Speaker 6: But when they get knocked off schedule and they get

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Speaker 6: set up for third and longer situations, man, they're on

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Speaker 6: the struggle bus. And guess what, Florida does a nice

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Speaker 6: job of getting teams into third and long situations.

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Speaker 2: And so this is one of those.

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Speaker 6: Oddly specific matches matchups specifically when you look at Tennessee's

496
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 6: limitations offensively and what Florida does well defensively, even though

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00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 6: it's a down year, even though.

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Speaker 2: They had to fire their coach.

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Speaker 6: This is a live home dog because you get Tennessee

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Speaker 6: at home, they're the favorites. You're under the lights in

501
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Speaker 6: the swamp, a place where the vaults have struggled.

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Speaker 2: I mean, right.

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Speaker 6: Now, if you're asking me to choose a side, you know,

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00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 6: in terms of the spread, right now, I like the Gators.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the public loves the Gators. It's most popular underdog.

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Speaker 5: Based on what I'm seeing at that MGM. We can

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Speaker 5: ask Seamus a little bit later when he hops on

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Speaker 5: with us, but it definitely looks like the most intriguing

509
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 5: storyline in this game from a betting perspective is the

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Speaker 5: one Brian mentioned off the top, and the fact that

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Speaker 5: Tennessee just really struggles in Gainesville. I don't have a

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Speaker 5: on this game that I really like. I think at

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00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 5: Florida's core, their defense is equipped to slow down Tennessee.

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00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 5: The problem is Tennessee plays so fricking fast. If Florida

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00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: doesn't have their wind, like if they're not up for

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00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: that cardiovascular challenge, they will lose this game. I do

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00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: like Tennessee's offense a lot. I like Aguilar. I think

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00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 5: he's a he's a real tough, gritty kid. It's a

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00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 5: shame that Tennessee lost that weird, funky game to Oklahoma

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00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago. This game would have mattered

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00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: a lot more for Tennessee. Obviously Oklahoma would have been done,

522
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 5: but for Tennessee it would have mattered a lot more

523
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 5: because it would have set up a huge game next

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00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 5: week against Vandy. I don't know where Tennessee's mind is

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00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: right now. Like they've got three losses, they're out of

526
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 5: the playoff, They're going to a place where they never win,

527
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: and the number is moving against it. Like it seems

528
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 5: like everything is telling me to bet Florida. To hear

529
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 5: like everything all the lights are flashing. Gators, Gators, gators'

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm like, all right, what am I missing here?

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Speaker 5: I would lean Florida, but I honestly don't have a

532
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 5: very strong opinion on this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it should be fun. I'm curious about maybe

534
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 4: in prop it up. You know, jaden Baugh, the Florida

535
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: running back. This is a close game and man, Tennessee's

536
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: defense is so bad and they just feed baw you

537
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's that we'll get to the

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Speaker 4: Oregon game a little bit later. Oregon has like four

539
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: dudes that have had at least forty two carries, forty

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Speaker 4: two rushing attempts. You know, So if you're thinking about

541
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: taking a prop with an Oregon running back. You run

542
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: the risk if you're on the over of your guy

543
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: not getting enough carries, you know, and instead of your

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00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: guy like ripping off the twenty three yard run, it's

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Speaker 4: the other guy. And you're like, oh my gosh, that's

546
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: not what you have to worry about. With Florida. They

547
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: just feed baw feed them, feed them, feed them. And

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00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: that's a tough thing if you're on the under and

549
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: you're like, man, this guy just gets like three yards here,

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00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: four yards there. That adds up and he accumulates a

551
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: rushing total right there. I like, bought it, go over, man.

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Speaker 4: But we'll get to that and prop it up next hour.

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00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: How about another game here where it might not be

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00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: top of mind, but if you're up for a minute,

555
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: like an ugly slobber knocker. How about Illinois against Wisconsin

556
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: in later November shreary skies. You know, both defenses are

557
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: coming into form here. Illinois has played better defense lately

558
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 4: and Wisconsin has played good defense for a little while here.

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Speaker 4: I do not look for this to be a shootout

560
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: in any capacity. So if you're looking at the under,

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00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: that might be a spot to focus on. It's only

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00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: forty one and a half in Illinois Wisconsin. But I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you what, that's the way to make an ugly

564
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: game look pretty is if you're on the under and

565
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: like no one's scoring. That could be the case today.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, you know, it's so funny.

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Speaker 6: I'm so quick to be dismissive of games that I

568
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 6: have zero interest in in terms of in in terms

569
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Speaker 6: of how how I view the game altogether. But that

570
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 6: is a piece to the puzzle, right, you know, a

571
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 6: great way to enjoy a bad game or a game

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Speaker 6: that isn't going you know, a rain game between two

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Speaker 6: teams that are you know, only partially efficient in the

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00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 6: in the passing game anyways, and maybe rely on the

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Speaker 6: run game.

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Speaker 2: Like you're you're you're not going.

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Speaker 6: To be all that wowed by the box score unless

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Speaker 6: you're on the under, you know what I mean.

579
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Speaker 2: Like so, so it's a great point.

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Speaker 6: You can sort of sniff them out and if you

581
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Speaker 6: want any reason, you know, we could get to ILLINOI

582
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Speaker 6: in a second. But if you want any reason to

583
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Speaker 6: believe that the under probably will hit Wisconsin is like

584
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Speaker 6: onto their fourth string quarterback. Now they they brought in

585
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 6: a transfer who was there? I believe on paper to

586
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 6: start the season would have been their third string guy,

587
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 6: Danny O'Neil from San Diego State. He started all but

588
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 6: a full season for the Aztecs last year, and he

589
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 6: got carted off the field with a lower leg injury.

590
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Speaker 6: So I mean they they are destitute at that position.

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Speaker 6: It's been a long year for both these teams, but

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Speaker 6: especially the Badgers and especially offensively, because look, sometimes you

593
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 6: are set up to have success in a year, and

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Speaker 6: I'm not making excuses for anybody, because everybody has their problems,

595
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 6: but sometimes.

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00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: A year just ain't your year.

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Speaker 6: And considering how many injuries they've had, specifically at the

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00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 6: most important position in football, I mean the Badgers, they

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00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 6: just couldn't compete this year, especially in that conference.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that This game has had very little line movement,

601
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 5: very little real any buzz, not a not a real

602
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: sexy game. The most interesting part about this game is

603
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: Belama's revenge, like the revenge tour. Like you know, he

604
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: coached at Wisconsin for I think six years and now

605
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 5: he's the Illinois coach. Like I think that's frankly the

606
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 5: most interesting part of this game. It would be a

607
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 5: little bit more interesting if we had some kind of

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00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 5: information about Luke Fickle, you know, and you know what

609
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 5: his future would be. But we already know that story.

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00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: Wisconsin has, you know, pretty much locked him up and

611
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: said he's coming back, even though it was a disastrous year.

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00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 5: Remember I'm old enough to remember when everyone thought Illinois

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00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: was going to be the sleeper team this year, that

614
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: Newton pan out. I was very down on that narrative.

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00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 5: That made no sense to me. And frankly, their best

616
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: win against USC was very much an asterisk game that

617
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: was a crazy game back and forth could have gone

618
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Speaker 5: either way. You don't see games Land thirty four to

619
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Speaker 5: thirty two too often. Illinois does have this bully mentality

620
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: to them, so I would not be surprised if they

621
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: do get a leg up and it being a revenge

622
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Speaker 5: game for Beilamo. I believe Wisconsin fired him. I don't

623
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Speaker 5: remember how it ended, but that you know, that's the

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00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 5: one angle, that's the one narrative maybe that you can

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Speaker 5: latch onto here.

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Speaker 4: You know what's funny is I didn't notice this until now,

627
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Speaker 4: but the last two games we previewed they feel so different,

628
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: but they're very similar. Where if you look at Tennessee,

629
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Speaker 4: all right, Tennessee is ranked twentieth and they're facing an

630
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: unranked floor to team. It's seven and three versus three

631
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Speaker 4: and seven. I'm intrigued by that game, right, Like, can

632
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Speaker 4: Tennessee win a game finally in Gainesville? Meanwhile, you compare

633
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Speaker 4: that to Illinois. They're ranked twenty first, like one spot

634
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: lower than Tennessee taking on an unranked Wisconsin team. It's

635
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: seven and three versus three and seven, same records as

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Speaker 4: the other SEC game. No interest Illinois Wisconsin. They play

637
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: at the same time tonight, Like it just it feels

638
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: so much different. It's funny because you know, like objects

639
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: in mirror are closer than they appear these teams, and

640
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: the matchup is a lot closer than it feels like.

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Speaker 4: The intrigue factor is not even close with the Big

642
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: ten game here, at least in my eyes. I think

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Speaker 4: you guys agree with that.

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Speaker 5: I agree, Yeah, frankly, I don't think either game has

645
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: a ton of intrigue, but yeah, I think the game

646
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: has a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: You just want to talk about the Irish I understand, yeah, yeah.

648
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Speaker 2: You one of my favorite team.

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Speaker 4: We want to get to the real good stuff over here.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: Ob is looking at this Bandy game and everyone wants

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Speaker 5: to bet Bandy and I get it. Bandy's fun, They're sexy,

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Speaker 5: they have a chance to make a cultural wall playoff.

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Speaker 5: We love Bandy this year, but I want to give

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Speaker 5: some love to Cutter Bowlie. That is the Kentucky quarterback

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Speaker 5: who's played really well the last couple of weeks. He's

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Speaker 5: a freshman. They put him into the lineup to replace Calzada.

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Speaker 5: Earlier in the year. He was a disaster. Then they

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Speaker 5: benched him. He had a chance to kind of sit

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Speaker 5: and stew and now he's back in the lineup. Played

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Speaker 5: really well against Tennessee Tech last week, had two touchdown

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Speaker 5: passes against Florida a couple weeks ago, and his over

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Speaker 5: one and a half touchdown pass prop today is plus

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Speaker 5: one ninety. So again, Kentucky's got nothing to lose. Bandy's

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Speaker 5: pass defense has been a little bit suss this year.

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Speaker 5: He had five touchdowns against Tennessee. He had two against

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Speaker 5: Georgia early this year. If you could throw two touchdown

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Speaker 5: passes against Georgia, you can throw two against Bandy. So

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Speaker 5: gimme Cutter Bowl over one and a half touchdown passes

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Speaker 5: the first leg of the platter, a big one, juicy

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Speaker 5: one plus one ninety.

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Speaker 6: I like the Gators at home, and I was this

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Speaker 6: closed to taking them on the money line, but I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna take them plus three and a half. Home Dogs

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Speaker 6: nighttime game against Tennessee. It kind of feels like they

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Speaker 6: got the balls right where they want them. Tennessee really

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Speaker 6: struggles very strong or discipline defenses, and they really haven't

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Speaker 6: impressed as much against superior competition. And that's not what

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Speaker 6: I'm calling Florida right now. But their style is to

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Speaker 6: drag opponents into slow, methodical, early down battles, a script

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Speaker 6: that Tennessee absolutely hates. Again, this is like the Florida Gators'

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl this year. So give me the home Dogs

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Speaker 6: plus three and a half. I think they have the advantage.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about this game, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you know what this is, this seems like a pick

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Speaker 4: here for the platter. How about Illinois Wisconsin me under

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Speaker 4: twenty and.

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Speaker 5: A half in the first half.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just gonna be an ugly game. The condition.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a little wet, little soggy, not gonna

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Speaker 4: be high flying whatsoever. Illinois defense has played a lot

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Speaker 4: better recently, and Wisconsin has played good defense for a

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Speaker 4: little while now, so I would expect that to continue.

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Speaker 4: So I'll take the under under twenty and a half,

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Speaker 4: which is grossly low. Like you used to some of

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Speaker 4: these college football totals and college football first half totals,

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Speaker 4: You're like, twenty and a half. That's gross. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: don't think it's gross enough for them to hit the over.

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Speaker 4: I'll take the under twenty and a half in the

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Speaker 4: first half.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 5: I'm loving this. So without the boost, it's plus nine

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Speaker 5: It's a nice, little, sexy, little three legger here, Bowley

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Speaker 5: over one and a half, t d passes under first half, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 5: Illinois twenty and the hook and then Florida plus three

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Speaker 5: and a half home dog against Tennessee. I like you,

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Speaker 4: It's cool. Yeah, it's andy. We're locked. We're locked and loaded.

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Speaker 4: It's funny some of these and I'm not disagreeing with you, Jared,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna sound like I am. But you know, a

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Speaker 4: team like Kentucky, Let's say they score a touchdown and

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Speaker 4: it's a rushing touchdown. You're like, oh no, like they

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Speaker 4: might only get two touchdowns today, you.

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Speaker 5: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's always.

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Speaker 2: Tricky like that.

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Speaker 5: I have a feeling that game's gonna have some sneaky

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Speaker 5: vibes to it, like Kentucky's a feisty dog in the SEC.

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Speaker 5: Stoops is a really good cover cover machine as an

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Speaker 5: underdog and Vandy listen, of all the games in the

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Speaker 5: SEC today, this is the one game that actually has

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Speaker 5: some star Actually no Missouri two, but this game also

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Speaker 5: has some starks to it because Bandy needs to win

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Speaker 5: out if they want to make the playoff. How would that?

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Speaker 5: That would be wild? If Fanny makes the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Would Yeah, it really would be You know it's funny

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Speaker 4: too if you look at the the rankings. Vandy was

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Speaker 4: off last week. They had a bye week and they

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Speaker 4: got leapfrogged by Miami. Yeah, Andy, You're like, what what?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 4: What did they do?

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Speaker 2: They beat?

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Speaker 5: But they see next week they're gonna be fine honestly, there,

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Speaker 5: I'm I think you cannot leave out a two loss

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Speaker 5: SEC team. You just can't.

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Speaker 4: You just can't fair enough. But uh, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those deals where you're just looking like, wait,

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Speaker 4: how do you explain this exactly? It's funny because you

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Speaker 4: know we're talking about Notre Dame versus Miami, who should

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Speaker 4: be ranked where? And YadA YadA, And yet there are

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Speaker 4: other teams like Vandy who might be like, how about

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Speaker 4: us over here? We we got leapfrogged by this Miami

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Speaker 4: team who just beat NC State. How do you explain that? Like,

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Speaker 4: what's up with that? So you've got a lot of

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Speaker 4: teams with ay, what's up with that? Type argum? Here,

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Speaker 4: welcome to life in the college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 6: Here, we have got a quick question regarding two teams

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Speaker 6: that we have here in.

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Speaker 2: The parlay platter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, could Florida Steele Vandy's coach, because now that it

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Speaker 6: feels like a fada complete that that we're going to

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Speaker 6: have Link Kiffin in LSU. He was obviously up there

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Speaker 6: on the board for Florida. Where did they pivot to? Now,

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Speaker 6: Eli Drinkwitz like, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: That's who it looks like based off of the steam,

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Speaker 5: but it could change.

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Speaker 2: What named you throw out there?

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Speaker 5: Jetfish the coach head coach, gotcha, gotcha. That's been the

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Speaker 5: gut so right now and again this could change. But

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Speaker 5: right now I'll give you my college football coach predictions

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Speaker 5: LSU link Kiff and Florida Jetfish kind of state Eli,

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Speaker 5: Drinwood's That's where I'm at right now on November twenty second.

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Speaker 4: Just just make sure you add Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman ain't going anywhere, don't work. Marcus Freeman is safe, right,

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Speaker 5: Like no, no, God's keep man at the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, there's gotta be some major curveball gotta be

795
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Speaker 4: always yeah yeah, got is it it?

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Speaker 5: Lane? Though, like it kind of feels like it's not

797
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Speaker 5: laying on LSU and LSU He's going there all right?

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, this team pulled off a huge upset

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Speaker 4: last week, but are they on upset alert this week?

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Speaker 4: We shall dive in next. Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 4: Welcome in here, Happy Saturday, full slate of college football.

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Speaker 4: We've got some great matchups to get to. Hey. Throughout

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Speaker 4: and Oklahoma with a magnificent win last week, big win,

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Speaker 4: huge win for them against the fraudulent fools gold Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Crimson Tide talked about last week Jared signed off, He's like,

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Speaker 4: you're right on the money, Brian. I'll tell you what

811
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Speaker 4: you nailed this one rich same thing, just like I'll

812
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Speaker 4: tell you Brian, this yeahn't been more right in a

813
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: long time than Alabama. No, it didn't go down like

814
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Speaker 4: I was on no island last week. It's okay, it's

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 2: But big win.

817
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: Nevertheless, for Oklahoma, they're five and a half point favorites

818
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Speaker 4: today at home against Missoo. My thing, guys, is part

819
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Speaker 4: of this is can you ramp it up again? It

820
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 4: seems like a ridiculous question right where. It's like you

821
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Speaker 4: got a college football playoff berth within sight, Like, what

822
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Speaker 4: do you mean can you ramp it up again? That

823
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Speaker 4: was such an emotional win on the road against Alabama.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard to reach that same level today

825
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Speaker 4: against Missoo plays a physical style of football. I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma does a great job against the rush. Missouri does

827
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Speaker 4: a great job running the ball. So it is power

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Speaker 4: versus power when Missouri has the ball. I'm very excited

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Speaker 4: about that. Are we gonna get Bowl Prabula? Are we

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Speaker 4: gonna get your your former Penn State guy?

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Speaker 5: Think so?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like he's on track to play.

833
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Speaker 4: Trying to pull a Matier over here, right, Like matiir

834
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Speaker 4: came back real quickly with that uh uh that that

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Speaker 4: hand injury, the thumb injury that he had, and he

836
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Speaker 4: rushed it back and looked terrible against Texas. You're looking

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Speaker 4: at Bowl Purbula. He's trying to rush back. He had

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Speaker 4: a dislocated ankle just four weeks ago and he's trying

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Speaker 4: to play today. So how limited will he be? That's

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Speaker 4: a big question here. But I mean it's a big

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Speaker 4: part of this is can Oklahoma reach that same emotional

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Speaker 4: level that they reached last week in Tuscaloosa. That is

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Speaker 4: not gonna be easy to do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, And taking a snapshot of both

845
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Speaker 6: of these teams and then looking at the overview of

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Speaker 6: the whole game if you look at Oklahoma, I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 6: John Mattier has been the story of the season with

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Speaker 6: his limited statistical portfolio because he missed a little bit

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Speaker 6: of time, his grittiness, toughness and willing to fight for

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Speaker 6: his team has kept them in the hunt. And really,

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Speaker 6: I would say the key factor, even though he's been

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00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 6: the story, is this Oklahoma defense. They have been tremendous.

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Speaker 6: That's what's kept their season afloat a team likely to

854
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 6: enter with a tremendous amount of energy regardless of the

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Speaker 6: emotional drop off after an Alabama win because of the

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Speaker 6: CFP implications here, they can't stand a loss to Missouri.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's just what it is now. Missouri. On

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Speaker 6: the other side, obviously, a lot of hopes were dashed recently.

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00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 6: This season has been derailed by injuries. Three losses will

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00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 6: keep them out of playoff contention, but obviously not out

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Speaker 6: of Big Bold contention. And so there's still a lot

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Speaker 6: to play for and they are are going to be

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Speaker 6: season runers for somebody.

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Speaker 2: Could it be Oklahoma?

865
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 6: In terms of this game, I mean, this feels like

866
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 6: the biggest game of Brent Venables time at Ou.

867
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: I mean let's just call it where it is.

868
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 6: This is a career defining moment for Brent Bennibles. So

869
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 6: when would drastically improve Oklahoma's college football playoff odds? And

870
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 6: since they are coming off of that enormous upset win

871
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 6: over Alabama, like it's like, okay, now you've done it.

872
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

873
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 6: Now you've knocked off Bama. So now you got to

874
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 6: see this thing through. And so the stakes could not

875
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 6: be higher. And it looks like given where the line

876
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 6: movement has gone, a lot of people are thinking, Missouri's

877
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 6: got a shot here.

878
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

879
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 5: I agree, By the way, biggest game in Brett Vnnible's

880
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 5: head coaching career at Oklahoma. Hundred agree. And then if

881
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: he wins this game, next week will be the biggest game.

882
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 5: And then if he wins that one and then the

883
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: following week, will you just keep raising the stakes now?

884
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: Because this is a playoff team. Oklahoma is a playoff team.

885
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: If they went out period, end of story. Again, you

886
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 5: cannot keep out a ten win SEC team from the

887
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 5: college worle playoff. I'm sorry, you just can't do it.

888
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: You've got maybe an argument to keep out Oregon if

889
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: they finished ten and two maybe, but SEC can't do it.

890
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 5: Really tough stretch for Oklahoma, right, they lose the game

891
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: to Ole, miss tight game, back and forth. They beat

892
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: Tennessee on the road, they beat Bama on the road.

893
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 5: Now you play Missouri. I mean that you go three

894
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 5: and one in that stretch. Frankly, you deserve to make

895
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: the playoff. The only other stretch that I thought was

896
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 5: more impressive this year was that Bama round that when

897
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 5: they make through their four rank wins in a row

898
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: a little early in the year. I don't know what

899
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 5: we're gonna get from Oklahoma today. Brian made a great

900
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 5: point about matching that intensity. I do know that they're

901
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 5: gonna be without our Mason Thomas again, who missed last

902
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 5: week's game. He's gonna miss this week's game with the

903
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 5: quad injury. The market has been very hot and heavy

904
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 5: on Missouri this week for two reasons. One Oklahoma maybe

905
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 5: a little bit overvalued after the win last week and

906
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 5: the bro Pabula news, which it does look like he's

907
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 5: gonna play. But we have this discussion all the time,

908
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 5: especially in the NFL world, where the quarterbacks are kind

909
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 5: of worth this many points and we can really grade

910
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 5: how many points they're worth. Like we're going through this

911
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 5: now with the Joe Burrow news that just drop. How

912
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 5: we upgrade and downgrade teams accordingly based on the quarterback,

913
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 5: which is the most important position against the spread. It

914
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 5: will always account for, usually at least a field goal,

915
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 5: unless it's like a really small back up to a

916
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 5: third string kind of move. But when you get a

917
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: starter to a backup like this, I just don't know

918
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 5: how much you can upgrade Missouri because we just don't

919
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 5: know how healthy Pabula is. Like, yeah, we're gonna upgrade Missouri.

920
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 5: It looks like four points line open, nine and a half.

921
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: I'm seeing five six and between five and six right now,

922
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 5: so it looks like, you know, at least the field

923
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 5: goal is the move for bro Pabula playing. But how

924
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: healthy is Pabula? Is he one hundred percent? Like do

925
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 5: we need to kind of shade our upgrade a little

926
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: bit to account for the fact that maybe that ankle

927
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 5: is not quite healed? And I think the answer to

928
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 5: that question is yes. So my point being, maybe we're

929
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 5: getting a little too over our skis with the Missouri upgrade,

930
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: And now there's value on the other side with Oklahoma

931
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: laying less than six. So that's kind of where I'm

932
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 5: aut in this game. We know Missouri loves the run

933
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 5: it A'matt Hardy's an absolute rock star. We know Oklahoma

934
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 5: struggles on offense a little bit. We know Missouri's defense,

935
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 5: especially their defensive line, is elite. Missouri won of four

936
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: schools in the country top ten grades in pass rush

937
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: and rushing grade Texas Tech, Texas Indiana the only other

938
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 5: defensive lines that are that good this year in terms

939
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 5: of their Pro Football Focus grade. So that's kind of

940
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 5: the game within the game for me. How well we know,

941
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: you know, obviously Missouri's gonna run the ball. I'm pretty

942
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: confident that's gonna be what we see take place on

943
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 5: that side of the ball. How Oklahoma stops the row

944
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 5: will be huge. But how does Oklahoma's offensive line handle

945
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 5: this Missouri defensive line. That could be the chaos element

946
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 5: in this game that I'm not really sure how it's

947
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 5: gonna play out well.

948
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 4: And one of the other things that I'm looking at

949
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: is if Missouri can just take care of the football.

950
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 4: That's been a big factor in Oklahoma's last two wins.

951
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 4: Right they're at Tennessee, they forced three turnovers. One of

952
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: them was returned for a touchdown. That was actually our guy,

953
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: our Mason Thomas. You probably remember the play where it

954
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: looked like he stepped out of bounds. It was a

955
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: scoop six, right, not a pick six, a scoop six,

956
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: and he's running down the sideline. It looked like he

957
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 4: stepped out of bounds and he was favoring his leg.

958
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: That's where he hurt his squad. Yes, had a quadry

959
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: since then. Yeah, and then the next game last week

960
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 4: against Bama, forced three turnovers, another return for a touchdown.

961
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 4: Those are three monstrous takeaways. Bama out games Oklahoma by

962
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty four yards. That's a ton. So

963
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: if they're not forcing those three takeaways, they're not winning

964
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: that game most likely. So if Missouri can just take

965
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: care of the football, that's a big, big deal.

966
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: Now.

967
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you could throw more into the factor, more

968
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: into that where Listen, Oklahoma was on the road the

969
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: last couple of games. Now they're at home, right, Like

970
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 4: you could you can twist and turn stuff here and there.

971
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is, if Missouri can take care

972
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 4: of the football, this is an opportunistic, aggressive Oklahoma defense.

973
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: If Missouri can just avoid turnovers. They've got a real

974
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 4: shot in this game because Oklahoma's offense has not been

975
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 4: functioning at this high level ever since John Mattziir came back.

976
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 4: They're just you know, they haven't hit their stride yet

977
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 4: where you look at them, ever since he came back.

978
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 4: They did nothing against Texas, right, they were okay against

979
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 4: South Carolina. They didn't light it on fire in any

980
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: of the three other games. Oh, miss Tennessee, Alabama. Now

981
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: we're getting into the nitty gritty SEC conference games, right,

982
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 4: So I think if Missouri takes care of the football,

983
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 4: you could absolutely match points. You know, that's within reason

984
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: on the road against Oklahoma. I think Miszoo is absolutely

985
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: live in this game.

986
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 6: I would agree with you, except here's what happens when

987
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 6: a starting quarterback comes back to play for your team.

988
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 6: You know, you are excited about that opportunity. He's excited

989
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 6: about that opportunity, and there's gonna be a lot of

990
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 6: a lot of adrenaline behind that for both the player

991
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 6: and the coaching staff. And there's gonna be a renewed

992
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 6: trust in the game plan. But he's not going to

993
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 6: be the same, you know, Bo Prabulah regardless of you know,

994
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 6: how healthy he is. He suffered an ankle dislocation just

995
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 6: weeks ago. I mean it hasn't even been a now,

996
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 6: he's very fortunate to have not fractured his ankle or

997
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 6: a lower leg.

998
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: Bone in general. But the fact is the fact. And

999
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: he's a dual threat guy.

1000
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 6: And so you look at this seventy percent completion percentage

1001
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 6: over the course of the season, and you say, well,

1002
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 6: he'll be fine from the pocket. Well, really, how many

1003
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 6: of those passes were outside of the pocket? I mean,

1004
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 6: that's that's part.

1005
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: Of his game.

1006
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 6: He's he's an elusive player. He likes to move his feet,

1007
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 6: he likes to change the angle he's attacking the defense.

1008
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 6: So you look at the stats and you look at

1009
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 6: him as a player, and when all that stands alone,

1010
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 6: you say, well, yeah, they're gonna be better with him.

1011
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 6: Well yeah, kind of when you're building a game plan

1012
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 6: without a quarterback, sometimes sometimes you say, Okay, what are

1013
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 6: we gonna focus on. Obviously Hardy's gonna get the ball done.

1014
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 6: Obviously we're gonna protect this quarterback. We're gonna make up

1015
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 6: for his disadvantages because he's the backup when bow comes back.

1016
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 6: There may be an overinflated trust that he's going to

1017
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 6: get it done in certain situations because you've seen him

1018
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 6: get it done. Meanwhile, he's he's not going to be

1019
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 6: nearly as capable as he was. And look, I mean

1020
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 6: this is coming through the lens.

1021
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 2: I should say.

1022
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 6: Really, it's interesting that they're facing Oklahoma because they faced

1023
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: a very similar situation when Materira returned. You know, he

1024
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 6: came off this injury and you know, I mean, how

1025
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 6: much can you trust him right away to play with

1026
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 6: the surgically repaired throwing hand. The answer is, well, not

1027
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: a lot at first, and so you really have to

1028
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 6: amend and change things. So yeah, I totally understand how

1029
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 6: all of a sudden their steam on Missouri and there's

1030
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 6: interest on Missouri. But I'm I'm really nervous about going

1031
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 6: all in on Missouri's side because of two reason and

1032
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 6: one is Oklahoma defense. I think they're under heralded for

1033
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 6: how great they've been this season. And two because when

1034
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 6: the Tigers or any team are reintroducing a quarterback who's

1035
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 6: coming off of injury, it vastly changes your game plan.

1036
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 6: And I'm curious what changes they made to the game

1037
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 6: plan and if they made enough changes so that Probula

1038
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 6: find success today.

1039
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 5: I think that's a good way to look at all

1040
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 5: major injuries that happen at the quarterback position, or really

1041
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 5: any key position, but the quarterback position has such a

1042
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 5: huge impact on the points, bread and the game that

1043
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 5: you should always look to fade the news, right. They

1044
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 5: always say buy the rumor sell the news. That's kind

1045
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 5: of the fur I used to work in finance. That's

1046
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 5: always what we say. It's a cliche, but I think

1047
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 5: it holds true in sports because, especially at the quarterback position,

1048
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 5: when you're coming back from a major injury, it's almost

1049
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 5: impossible to be one hundred percent the first game. And

1050
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 5: the reason why is you haven't faced live bullets in

1051
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 5: a very long time. Now. In this case, it's only

1052
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks I think for Prebulah in Matears case,

1053
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: it was a little bit longer. In Joe Burrow's case.

1054
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 5: The Sunday Crew and Crack and Jeff and Brian will

1055
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 5: talk about this tomorrow. I'm sure it's significantly longer. And

1056
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 5: he's not going to play tomorrow, so it won't matter,

1057
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 5: But it will matter next week when he comes back

1058
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 5: to play.

1059
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: The Ravens.

1060
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 5: But that's neither here nor there. My point being when

1061
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 5: you return your first getting back that first drive, that

1062
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: first quarter, that first half, like you're still kind of

1063
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 5: getting into the mix. Like I don't care how hard

1064
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 5: you practice, nothing compares to a game, especially against Oklahoma's defense.

1065
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 5: So I just think we have to lower our expectations

1066
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 5: when we hear this quarterback returning news that will impact

1067
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: the market. Everyone's betting Missouri. The lines move four points,

1068
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 5: But is Prebulah's upgrade worthy of a full four point move?

1069
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: I would say no. I would say right now the

1070
00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 5: line as currently given to you, you're getting value on Oklahoma. Now,

1071
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 5: this is going to be a very physical football game.

1072
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 5: Missouri is a very one dimensional team. If they can

1073
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 5: get the run game going. We saw Amat Hardy just

1074
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 5: go berserk last week. They have a really good offensive line.

1075
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 5: They run a ton of outside zone. Oklahoma has had

1076
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 5: issues defending that at times this year, and they're gonna

1077
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 5: be without our Mason Thomas, their best defensive player. So

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00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 5: you can make the case that the run game for

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00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 5: Missouri matters more than Perbulah not being one hundred percent.

1080
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 5: But I bet numbers, not teams, and I've seen this

1081
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 5: in that line. Now continue to get pushed down. You

1082
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 5: gotta look at Oklahoma side here five and a half.

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00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: I think, Man, I'll tell you two things I'm keeping

1084
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 4: my eye on. The First thing is figuratively, not literally,

1085
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 4: the possibility of tight sphincter imps over here. All right.

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00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: You look at Oklahoma. Oklahoma, they know if they beat

1087
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: Missouri today in LSU next week, they are in. They

1088
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 4: are a play layoff team. It is right there. They're

1089
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: like a WWE wrestler, you know, that's like in the

1090
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: middle of the ring and they're trying to tag their

1091
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 4: partner in and he's within reach.

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00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: He's right there.

1093
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: When these teams get so close to a playoff berth,

1094
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 4: I think it's a completely different scenario that they're in

1095
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: right now compared to last week heading into Tuscaloosen taking

1096
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 4: on Alabama, because they're on the outside looking in going

1097
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 4: into that game. Now they're on the inside, hopefully not

1098
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: looking out right where. I think about Ole miss another

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00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: team from the SEC. Last year, they had a playoff

1100
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 4: berth within reach and they went on the road at

1101
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 4: Florida and laid an egg. Oh you know, it was

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00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: so disgusting, but Jackson.

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00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 5: Darr was awful in that game.

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00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: He really was.

1105
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: But that's why I wonder in a spot like this,

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00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: when you're that close, when you can see the finish

1107
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: line right there, like we can make it, all of

1108
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: a sudden, you start to press a little bit depending

1109
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: on game situation. Are you trailing right? Do you get

1110
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: a little tight? So that's something that that could absolutely

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00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 4: play a factor in today's game with Oklahoma being so

1112
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 4: close to a playoff Perth. The other thing you mentioned

1113
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: it too, Jared is man, you look at the rushing

1114
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 4: prop and we'll get into this at the end of

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 4: the hour. Prop it up. But the rushing prop for

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00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 4: Missouri running back of made hardy.

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00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: One oh two and a half. Huge, huge.

1118
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: That's a big number against Oklahoma's rush defense that has

1119
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: a high number.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna put my hand up, Brian, And if

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Speaker 6: you're not taking the under, I am on that, okaycause

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Speaker 6: one of.

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Speaker 5: Us are we all on the Sooner train today? Is

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Speaker 5: that the gun where I'm at? Under props on the

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Speaker 5: zoo Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the zoo man, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 5: Even after your inspired speech last week about how.

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00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 4: They took down a fool's gold Alabama team. Am I

1130
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 4: supposed to be impressed by that?

1131
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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: I was.

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: It was an impressive win. But when you are fueled

1134
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 4: by that many takeaways six take away way in the

1135
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 4: last two games, like, eventually that well is gonna run dry. Yes, yeah,

1136
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 4: So if you're not forcing turnovers, what do you have?

1137
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: At that point?

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00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 5: We might find out John Mattier that's what you have.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely better be great.

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Speaker 5: He's the guy I mean, I mean, they have the

1141
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 5: better quarterback, right, I don't know about the better coach,

1142
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 5: but they definitely have the better quarterback. I think they

1143
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 5: have the better defense. But you're laying five and a half.

1144
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 5: I don't I think at five and a half, I

1145
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 5: like Oklahoma at seven, I'll take Miszoo. I think that's

1146
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 5: kind of where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: before we get into the games and the slate and

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Speaker 4: all that good stuff, you're an opinionated guy and we

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Speaker 4: love that about you. What are your opinions on the

1186
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 4: current college football playoff rankings? Most notably, there's a knockdown

1187
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Speaker 4: drag out already that could intensify between Notre Dame and

1188
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: Miami where both are ranked. Where do you come out

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Speaker 4: on that and just the rankings in general, anything that

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Speaker 4: you have a big problem with.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the committee does no favors to themselves with

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01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 3: some of the circular thinking they do that usually only

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 3: benefits two conferences in the country. Why is Missouri ranked? Right?

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01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: Why is Tennessee ranked? And Oh, it just so happens.

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 3: Those are two evama's like biggest wins Oregon. Oregon gets

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01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: credit for beating Penn State, and the committee just pretty

1197
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: much that we don't care that Penn State's bad anymore.

1198
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 3: But Virginia sits at nineteen despite routing Duke, and Louisville's

1199
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 3: somehow unranked now because Louisville stinks because they lost the Clemson.

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Speaker 3: It's just fascinating to see the mental gymnastics they do

1201
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: to cram certain teams in. And you guys know how

1202
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 3: much of THEA The ACC needs a new PR department.

1203
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 3: They have a data deal with ESPN, and all ESPN

1204
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 3: does is just torture, torture this conference. They talk bad

1205
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: about it, but the SEC will get all this love

1206
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: and everything, and I just don't get it anymore. As

1207
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: far as never even Miami goes, I don't have much

1208
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 3: of an issue with that, mainly because the points and

1209
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: brought up by a lot of people here as in

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Speaker 3: the media. Not n even Miami aren't being compared right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, not Ning's being compared with Alabama, Oklahoma. Certain

1212
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: people think Miami is but you know, I know, Miami

1213
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: beat Nerding, but Miami is worse than Nerding. It's it's

1214
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 3: a funny one. But I actually don't have a problem with.

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Speaker 5: That right now. Yeah, yeah, I would agree. I think

1216
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 5: the quality loss is seamus that that seems to be

1217
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 5: the entire argument here.

1218
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 3: A field goal loss week one like.

1219
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Speaker 5: And that's the thing about it is And I do

1220
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 5: agree the ACC gets a bad rap. But at the

1221
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 5: end of the day, man, the I test doesn't do

1222
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 5: them any favors. It just doesn't like they're all beating

1223
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 5: each other. There's really no elite team where unlike in

1224
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 5: the SEC, you do have these elite teams that are

1225
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 5: still showing you a pretty high ceiling, albeit you know

1226
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 5: there is some bias. I do agree baked In. Speaking

1227
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 5: of bias, I do think there was biased into this

1228
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Speaker 5: line move with Missouri and Oklahoma today. We talked about

1229
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 5: this in the last segment. Missouri is a team that

1230
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 5: I think on the surface, it makes sense why we're

1231
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 5: upgrading them with Babula coming back. But we talk about

1232
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 5: this a lot. With quarterbacks that miss time to injury,

1233
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 5: that first game back, you're not getting the full one

1234
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 5: hundred percent. So are we upgrading Missouri too much? Now

1235
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 5: that this line has moved pretty considerably towards the Tigers.

1236
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: This line opened nine and a half with us it

1237
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: was babrula and like this is step still too many points.

1238
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Speaker 3: Five and a half is a lot. I feel like

1239
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: seven feels about right. It really has lots to do

1240
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 3: with brula. Just like every we've seen it with MISSOI

1241
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: every big game this week this year, they just don't

1242
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 3: show up. Oklahoma's defense is nasty. They are for real,

1243
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 3: even with a healthy Babula. I still lean Oklahoma in

1244
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: this one, and our betters would agree with me. We're

1245
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: taking a lot of Oklahoma at minus five and a half,

1246
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: but we've taken some sharp money to push this down here.

1247
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: So it's definitely going to be a fascinating one to

1248
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: watch in norm of the day.

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Speaker 6: All right, So it feels like Kiffin to LSU is

1250
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 6: going to happen.

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: It may have to wait till the Egg Bowl is

1252
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: over with. But let me ask you this question.

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Speaker 6: Are there any surprises left in terms of head coaching

1254
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 6: hires or do you think things are slated into land

1255
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 6: where maybe even if you don't know exactly what names

1256
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 6: are going to pair with what programs, yet we're going

1257
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 6: We're not going to be surprised or do you think

1258
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 6: there'll be some surprises.

1259
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Speaker 3: Of course there's going to be some surprises in the

1260
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: college football carousel. I mean, it happens every year. I

1261
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 3: think for me, my biggest surprise is not the fact

1262
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: that someone's been fired, if someone's taking new job, it's

1263
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 3: that Luke Fickle still has a job. Like, I can't

1264
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: get over that. What else do you need to see?

1265
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: And they double down on them, So we'll see Franklin

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 3: and Virginia Tech doesn't feel like a shock. It's go

1267
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: I Regia Tech. But you know Arkansas, it's weird of

1268
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: like you hear rumors about like they're meeting with Franklin

1269
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 3: didn't go very well at all. You wonder who they're

1270
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Speaker 3: going to get. Kiffin sounds like you'd see their LSU

1271
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 3: or Florida. Like when you said LSU seems like the

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Speaker 3: front runner of the past twenty four hours, then that

1273
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: Florida job becomes really interesting to see who they get.

1274
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: Penn State's still open. I still think Penn State. Joe

1275
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 3: Brady from the Bills is my bet. But we'll see there.

1276
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Speaker 5: Wow, Rah, interesting, that's the name I haven't heard of.

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Speaker 5: How about recently.

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Speaker 4: How about what you need today, Seamus. If you can

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Speaker 4: waive the magic betmgm wand which we know does exist,

1280
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: what are you using it on a couple of teams,

1281
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 4: couple of games for us that you need the most.

1282
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Speaker 3: So we're going to start with Arkansas plus nine at Texas.

1283
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna need every bit of help in that one.

1284
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 3: And we're going to go to Michigan State.

1285
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Speaker 2: Eye.

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna Michigan State pretty bad here. It take a

1287
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 3: lot of eye on minus sixteen and a half. And

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Speaker 3: we'll also throw in Also, I was flinging at my

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Speaker 3: data wrong. We've been taking We're gonna eat the Zoo.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, still still did early. We're gonnam the Zoo

1291
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Speaker 3: plus five and a half, the Missoo, Arkansas, Michigan State.

1292
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 3: That anyone could get involved in those three teams, because

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01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: I sure can't, but I'm fortunate today.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. Brian said you liked Missoo a little bit, right, bro?

1295
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 5: I do?

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Speaker 4: I like Missoo. Oklahoma living off these takeaways shameless, It's.

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01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always a n SEC team who really fumbles.

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: Towards the end of the year, we say, yeah, Oklahoma

1299
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 3: tripped up Bama last year. I could really it could

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 3: happen Oklahoma for sure, a lot of luck box wins

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Speaker 3: for that team.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 5: The playoff would be wacky if Oklahoma lost that third

1304
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 5: game and it opened up a slot that we haven't

1305
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 5: talked about BYU at all. I think BYU rolls today

1306
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 5: against Cincy. What do you think about that game? Oh?

1307
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: I love Cincinnati. This week Brendan Scoresby is put in

1308
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 3: the quarterback. No one's talking about that. They should sky Rocks.

1309
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna take We're gonna take BYU. We're gonna take Cincinnati.

1310
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: And like I b YU, I think does this every

1311
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 3: year they start seven or eight and oh they get

1312
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: you know a little bit in the playoff mix. They

1313
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 3: lose one game and then it's like, oh, well they

1314
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 3: still can make it. I still think they're gonna lose

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: another game before the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: Hey Seamus, real quick before we get to your Seamus.

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Speaker 6: Special, Uh, talk me off the ledge unless you think

1318
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 6: this is a good take. I think this is Florida's

1319
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 6: Super Bowl today. I think they got Tennessee in the

1320
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 6: spot they want them. I mean, it's always been.

1321
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 2: Good Lagway, bad Lagway, which Lagway.

1322
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 6: Are we gonna get but I think they get up

1323
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 6: for this one. I like the Gators today. Do you

1324
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 6: agree or disagree? I'm holding my breath.

1325
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: I feel like every time Rich asked me talk me

1326
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 3: off of the ledge here, I can't, I won't, and

1327
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do today. I like Florida too.

1328
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 3: I hate to disappoint, but I kind of like Florida

1329
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 3: out right today too, you know, even with no even

1330
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 3: with an interim coach, I still think Florida is also

1331
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 3: like especially we saw last year with Lagway against Ole Miss,

1332
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: Like this team doesn't really quit on a season depending

1333
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: on the win total.

1334
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 4: Okay, Seamus Rich alluded to it. It's time for the

1335
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 4: Shamous Special? Where are you taking us today?

1336
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 3: I have two plays here. One is pretty transparent, but

1337
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 3: the first, the actual Shames is special. We're gonna go

1338
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: to the Battle of Staten Island versus Long Island, and

1339
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 3: we're taking Staten Island with the Wagner Seahawks. We're taking

1340
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: the points. We're taking Wagner with the points today, good

1341
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: till plus seven and a half. After that, maybe look

1342
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 3: the elswhere's your fcs? What I want to throw in

1343
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 3: a little acc money line parlay here, Oh God, Louisville

1344
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: over SMU, North Carolina over Duke okay, and Georgia Tech

1345
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: over Pittsburgh. Gentlemen, if this parlay hits, the Virginia Cavaliers

1346
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: will be playing in Charlotte for the a SEC Championship

1347
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 3: without any touching grass.

1348
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: Right there you go.

1349
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: That's that's louis without Boss today.

1350
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: Right you do know that.

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 5: I just want to make sure you knew that.

1352
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, wow, Okay, we need Belichick, we need uh,

1353
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 4: we need Miller Moss's back up. We need a couple

1354
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 4: of things.

1355
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, my name, we will research and give to you later.

1356
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 4: Backup QB to be named later.

1357
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 5: That's a tough spot against s m U. If that

1358
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 5: parlay hit, Jamis, I will personally fly across the country

1359
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 5: to bed m GM's headquarters in New Jersey and give

1360
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 5: you a pat on the back for that.

1361
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: And there is a case you guys can be at

1362
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: the championship game.

1363
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 4: All right, Seamous, great stuff as always, man, appreciate your time.

1364
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 4: Have a good one today. We'll catch you soon maybe

1365
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 4: in Charlotte.

1366
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: We'll enjoy the games.

1367
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 5: Good luck, pal.

1368
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 4: There he is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports trading

1369
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 4: at bet MGM.

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01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 5: I love that good stuff.

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01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: Well, let's let's stick with the acc There is a

1372
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 4: team that is getting absolutely no love from the playoff committee.

1373
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 4: That would be your Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. They are

1374
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: ranked sixteenth, so they're nine to one. They are behind

1375
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 4: seven two lost teams. Wow, the committee is like, no

1376
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 4: no respect for them whatsoever.

1377
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: And we get it.

1378
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 4: They've they played just a garbage schedule here. But man,

1379
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: you talk about no love, they are the definition of

1380
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 4: no love from the from the committee here.

1381
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, you know.

1382
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 6: But before we get there, can can I go back

1383
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 6: to one thing that Shamis said, Please unbelievable vote of confidence.

1384
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 6: For every time I've asked him to talk me off

1385
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 6: the ledge, he said, I've been on the same side

1386
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 6: as you. I don't know if that's a good thing

1387
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 6: or a bad thing, because I don't have a record

1388
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 6: on the amount of times I've asked him to talk

1389
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 6: me off the ledge, but I could tell you just

1390
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 6: just from my my, the way I talk to Seamus, it's.

1391
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 2: Been many many times. So Florida.

1392
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 6: I mean, he was talking about taking them straight up today.

1393
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 6: He was talking about moneyline Florida.

1394
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the Florida pickle up. That might be,

1395
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 5: that might be in rapid fire.

1396
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 4: All right, So Rich, you got Pittsburgh at Georgia Tech.

1397
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 4: We got Mason Heinschol. He's stunk it up against the Irish.

1398
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 4: Can he rebound today against the Yellowjackets. They're their defenses,

1399
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 4: rough man, They're.

1400
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: They're not good.

1401
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 4: They're they're they're bad. Like they allow ninety they're ninety

1402
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 4: fifth and yards allowed per dry. They're bad against the rush,

1403
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 4: like they're not good. Their defense is bad. So can

1404
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 4: we get our guy Heinschel back on, back in his

1405
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: groove over here after a rough performance last week.

1406
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: He's a pretty good quarterback. He's done. He's a good,

1407
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: solid college quarterback.

1408
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 6: And uh, and I don't want to make this all

1409
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 6: about the coach, but I don't think pitt was set

1410
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 6: up for success from a motivational standpoint.

1411
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: A week ago. I didn't like, you know, the sort

1412
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 2: of the.

1413
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 6: The conversation that we had about Nardouzzi and like everything

1414
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 6: that came out, you know, of that conversation we had.

1415
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 6: I mean, like, I'm not saying that the game was

1416
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 6: won before it was even kicked off, but or if

1417
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 6: or that the pitt even had a chance because they didn't.

1418
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 6: But like, I just didn't like how that was messaged

1419
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 6: about how you know, we don't care if we get

1420
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 6: beat by a hundred.

1421
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: Was that the exact quote?

1422
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, pretty much as by almost one hundred.

1423
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I mean, like, I just, I just.

1424
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 6: I mean, when you're a player in a locker room

1425
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 6: where the literally the the head of the program, the

1426
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 6: most important, most influential person in the program, is talking

1427
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 6: about a game that way, I mean, what chance do

1428
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 6: you really get anybody to have a great, great outing,

1429
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 6: a great affair that that afternoon?

1430
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: Not much?

1431
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 6: So Yeah, I can say, I can say for sure

1432
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 6: this will be a bounce back week for that pit offense,

1433
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 6: especially against a really struggling Georgia Tech defense.

1434
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1435
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 5: I the acc is pretty simple on the Georgia Tech side.

1436
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 5: They're in with a win. That's the easy part of

1437
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 5: the implications. If Pittsburgh wins, oooh boy, then things get

1438
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 5: really weird. Pittsburgh still needs to beat Miami next week

1439
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 5: and then get a loss from either SMU or Virginia Tech,

1440
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 5: and there's a massive like this is the biggest head

1441
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 5: to head game remaining, though in the ACC tod So

1442
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 5: if Georgia Tech wins today, it gets very simple. Miami, though,

1443
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 5: rooting hard for a pit win, isn't that ironic? Like

1444
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 5: Miami's rooting so hard for Pitt this week and then

1445
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,799
Speaker 5: next week they've got to beat him. It's like, please

1446
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 5: Pitt win this week so we can knock you out

1447
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 5: next week and get into the ACC championship game. So

1448
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 5: the uh, you know, the hierarchy, the game of thrones

1449
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,919
Speaker 5: in the ACC is very much still in play. Hinchell

1450
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 5: is a roller coaster freshman quarterback. Really good from a

1451
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 5: clean pocket, not so great when things get murky, high risk,

1452
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 5: high reward, fourteen turnover worthy plays, twelve big time throws

1453
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 5: this year, like he's gonna show you his ceiling and

1454
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 5: he's gonna show you his floor, maybe on consecutive plays.

1455
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 5: The Georgia Tech defense, though, as you guys alluded to,

1456
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 5: doesn't impact the quarterback a whole lot, so maybe Heinschell

1457
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 5: will have some time and some clean pockets to throw

1458
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 5: from this year. On the other side, Haines King is

1459
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 5: a straight, slam it down your throat kind of quarterback.

1460
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 5: Although his adjusted accuracy rate eighty two percent, that's the

1461
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 5: third highest ins. They just don't throw it a whole lot.

1462
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 5: They've got one of the highest run rates in college football.

1463
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 5: They are one of the best rushing teams in the nation.

1464
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 5: The one thing this pit defense does well is stop

1465
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 5: the run. Actually, it's frankly the strength of their team.

1466
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 5: Byles and Lewis and Lovelace, these are really good linebackers

1467
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 5: at the second level. They will shut down your running game,

1468
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 5: and they'll also shut down the quarterback run. Pitt has

1469
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 5: only allowed one quarterback to run for forty or more

1470
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 5: yards this year. Castianos Florida State twenty one yards on

1471
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 5: six carries. And this is without sacks. This is just

1472
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: straight runs, not the sacks included. The sacks make these

1473
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 5: totals less, but just the running plays. Castianos six for

1474
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 5: twenty one, NC State CJ. Bailey six for thirty seven,

1475
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 5: Notre Dame cjcar four for fifteen. Haynes King's a different

1476
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 5: type of runner than those guys, but Pitt's strength stopping

1477
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 5: the run, stopping the quarterback run, that's something Georgia Tech

1478
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 5: wants to do. So you can make the case that

1479
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh does have a favorable matchup in a key area

1480
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 5: in this game.

1481
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,759
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1482
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,760
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01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 4: betting market. We'll give you a couple of plays that

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01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 4: we like, some things to look at, some things to consider,

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Speaker 4: some things to root for. Maybe if you want to

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Speaker 4: to waste. Let's dive into this.

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Speaker 2: Prop it up plays.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jared, we start with you the prop vetting market.

1501
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 4: What is something that you have your eyes fixated on

1502
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 4: bear versus the Bearcats.

1503
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 5: Awesome matchup today BYU and Cincinnati. So I disagree with

1504
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 5: Jay mistake on Soresby being kind of the guy in

1505
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 5: this game. I actually think bear Bachmeyer is going to

1506
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 5: be the guy in this game. And there's a couple

1507
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 5: of reasons why. First of all, he's had a really

1508
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 5: good year and he's kind of brushed off that you're

1509
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 5: not old enough. You're a freshman.

1510
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 4: Quarterback, you know vibes.

1511
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 5: He has shown up in big spots, including last week

1512
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 5: against DCU and they really needed him. And this week

1513
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 5: his passing yards prop at two eleven and a half

1514
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 5: at bet MGM. I love the overt in this game. Why, Well,

1515
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 5: he's facing a Cincinnati defense that runs a three to

1516
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 5: three to five stack. What's that three down lineman, three linebackers,

1517
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 5: five defensive backs.

1518
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: That style of.

1519
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 5: Defense is meant to for vent explosives. They don't get

1520
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 5: a ton of pressure on the quarterback. They're more of

1521
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 5: a zone coverage type of team. Bear Bachmeyer has faced

1522
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 5: that style of defense twice this year, last week against

1523
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 5: THECU three weeks ago against Iowa's Day. Those are his

1524
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 5: two highest graded passing games of the year. Per Pro

1525
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 5: Football Focus, That to me means something. He has the

1526
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 5: ability to push the ball outside the numbers. I think

1527
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 5: he does that today against Cincinnati three three five bear

1528
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 5: Bachmeyer over to eleven and a half.

1529
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: As years All right, let me.

1530
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 6: Take you back to this Missouri Oklahoma game we were

1531
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 6: talking about earlier. So obviously we know that Bo Prabula

1532
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 6: coming back from Missouri means that there's going to be

1533
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 6: a game plan that's going to feature what he can

1534
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 6: do on a dislocated ankle.

1535
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: But there's a lot that he can't do coming back

1536
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: from this injury. So what do we know? Missouri's got

1537
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 2: a great run game?

1538
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 6: What do we know Matt Hardy is a great running back,

1539
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 6: so perfect, let's feed him the rock. Well, what the

1540
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 6: heck do you think Oklahoma is going to be looking

1541
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 6: to stop the run game? What is Oklahoma good at

1542
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 6: stopping the run game? So what do I think Oklahoma's

1543
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 6: gonna do? They're gonna stop the run game? An overinflated

1544
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 6: stat here. The total for rushing yards from Matt Hardy

1545
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 6: in this game is one oh two and a half.

1546
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 2: Who that is high?

1547
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 6: Give me the under on his rushing total. I think

1548
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 6: Oklahoma if they get beat by Missouri. It's not gonna

1549
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 6: be on the ground. It's gonna be a huge prove

1550
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 6: it game for Bibulah through the air. So I'm taking

1551
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 6: the under on a Mott hardy.

1552
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 4: I get it makes sense. That's a high number against

1553
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 4: a really good rush defense in Oklahoma. So I definitely

1554
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 4: hear what you're saying right there. I'm gonna go with

1555
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 4: another running back. I'm gonna go to Florida running back

1556
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 4: Jayden Baugh going up against just a dreadful Tennessee defense.

1557
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 4: The Vowls, you know, not the Bowls. They're the volunteers,

1558
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 4: not the volunteers.

1559
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 2: My god.

1560
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 4: The vows suck defensively, and they're gonna feed Jayden Bah.

1561
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 4: They're gonna give them the rock time and time and

1562
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 4: time again. I look for him to at least pre

1563
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 4: over eighty and a half. I'll take his over rushing

1564
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 4: yards right there.

1565
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: I like that one, all right?

1566
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 4: Coming up next, this team doesn't have the reputation for

1567
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 4: being a great rushing team, but they should have a

1568
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 4: lot of success today. We'll get into that next. Oh

1569
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 4: what is going on? We've got a dandy, as Keith

1570
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 4: Jackson used to say, we got that at midday over here,

1571
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 4: three point thirty easter. In time, we will get to

1572
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 4: the biggest day, the biggest game of the day here

1573
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 4: in just a minute. Hey, all season long, bet, MGM's

1574
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 4: offering you a second chance on your first touchdown bet.

1575
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 4: When a customer plays a wager on a first touchdown

1576
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 4: scorer bet and he doesn't score first, but score second,

1577
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 4: bet MGM will return one hundred percent of their stakeback

1578
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 4: in cash. We've got number fifteen USC against number seven

1579
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 4: Oregon today. The Ducks favored by ten and a half.

1580
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 4: Total is ninety fifty nine and a half. Good, yeah,

1581
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 4: not ninety five and a half. It's not incarnate word.

1582
01:21:58,760 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 5: I'll take the under.

1583
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would too. That would be a good

1584
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 4: teaser leg as well. But how about Oregon's rushing offense.

1585
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about the best rushing teams

1586
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 4: in college football, I don't think immediately like Oregon comes

1587
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: to mind. If we were just saying, hey, throughout some

1588
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 4: of the best rushing teams in the country right now,

1589
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 4: you'd probably be like, and you name a couple here

1590
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 4: and there, and you don't think Oregon along those lines.

1591
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 4: I don't think most people do. I think it's a

1592
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 4: fair statement. But Oregon has done a fantastic job pounding

1593
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 4: the rock this season. You look at four different running

1594
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 4: backs have at least forty two rushing attempts. That's a ton.

1595
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 4: And three of those running backs they average at least

1596
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 4: seven yards per carrie.

1597
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: That is a ton.

1598
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 4: They're led by Noah Whittington. Jordan Davison is doing his

1599
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 4: thing and against USC. Like I saw it when they

1600
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 4: took on Notre Dame, I was there. I was there,

1601
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 4: as Chris Berman used to say, right, but Notre Dame

1602
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 4: just ran the ball right down their throat. And Notre

1603
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 4: Dame has a special combo with Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price.

1604
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 4: But what Oregon can do running the ball against a

1605
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 4: susceptible rush defense in USC, I think that's the first

1606
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 4: part of this. If USC can't come close to slowing

1607
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,719
Speaker 4: down the rush, it is going to be a long

1608
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 4: day at Autson Stadium. By the way, I go Atson,

1609
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 4: some people say Otsen, are you team Aughtson or team

1610
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 4: Otsen over there?

1611
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 6: It's not Auburn, it's Auburn. There you go Autson Stadium.

1612
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 6: So I'm complete agreement with you, Brian. Now Auburn that's

1613
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 6: a great line.

1614
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 4: That's perfect.

1615
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, yeah, listen, I could.

1616
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 6: And I also completely agree with your handicap on this game.

1617
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 6: I mean, when you look at when US has the

1618
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 6: ball at strength on strength US, he has an elite offense.

1619
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 6: They've put up great numbers this season. Oregon for the

1620
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 6: vast majority of this season, has an elite defense. So

1621
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 6: let's just call that a stalemate for the moment and

1622
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 6: focus on where the extreme mismatch is, and that's when

1623
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 6: Oregon has the football. They can run the football against

1624
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 6: anybody in the country. I'm convinced of it, and any

1625
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 6: one of their three running backs can pop off against

1626
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 6: this USC defense or all three, and we've seen that

1627
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 6: in games this season against weaker rush defenses that the

1628
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 6: Ducks have faced. This is one of the worst statistically,

1629
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 6: one of the worst run defenses in college football today

1630
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 6: is USC's. They are close to the bottom, and then

1631
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,799
Speaker 6: when you look at Oregon's rush offense, they are close

1632
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 6: to the top, if not the best. So again, I mean,

1633
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 6: it's hard to give USC a shot in this matchup because, frankly,

1634
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 6: I just don't really see a scenario where they can

1635
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 6: control the tempo of this football game at all, unless

1636
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 6: they find a way to generate turnovers, unless they find

1637
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 6: a way to do something magical in the team's game,

1638
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 6: whether it be you know, on return, kickoff or punt,

1639
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 6: or maybe in the coverage units. Maybe Oregon makes a

1640
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 6: horrible mistake, maybe they're careless with the football.

1641
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1642
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 6: It's going to have to take intervention outside of the

1643
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 6: normal conventions of the football game for Oregon to lose

1644
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 6: this game. To use, but beyond that, for USC t

1645
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 6: even have a chance of controlling the tempo of this game.

1646
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 6: The Ducks are that much better in their run game

1647
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 6: than USC is is to preventing the run.

1648
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Yet.

1649
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 5: I'll give you some good news for USC fans, including

1650
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 5: our trusted producer here Boll Benson. The Oregon's gonna be

1651
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 5: without two of their best receivers today. Their two best receivers, frankly,

1652
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 5: the Coreyan Moore and Gary Bryant Junior both out. That's

1653
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 5: about the most positive thing I can say for you

1654
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 5: in this game. Matchupwise, we talked about this last week, right.

1655
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 5: I went back last week and I in order to

1656
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 5: prep for the USC Iowa game, I went back and

1657
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 5: watched the USC Notre Dame tape, and I noticed that

1658
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 5: Danton Lynn just refused to bring a second safety end

1659
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 5: of the box. He let Notre Dame run wild in

1660
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 5: that game. Did the same thing last week. I know

1661
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 5: Kamari Moulton didn't score, unfortunately for our prop bet that

1662
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 5: we made on him in the parley platter, but he

1663
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 5: went over his rushing yards prop and Iowa covered the spread.

1664
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 5: And I think they probably would have won that game

1665
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 5: out right if they had a couple of things break

1666
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 5: their way. But it's Iowa, so offensively they can be

1667
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 5: a little bit challenged. Now you get an offense that

1668
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 5: is not challenged, especially vertically, and I know they're gonna

1669
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 5: be without a couple of key receivers today. But finally

1670
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 5: Oregon unleashed Kenyon Sadik last week and he went absolutely

1671
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 5: berserk eight for ninety six in a touchdown. Those were

1672
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 5: season highs and targets, receptions and yards. I think that's

1673
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 5: the path for Oregon today to continue to, you know,

1674
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 5: change up because we know they're gonna run it. We

1675
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 5: know us he struggles to stop the run. But you

1676
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 5: can't run one hundred times. You gonna have to throw

1677
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 5: it at some point. Today, And you think Sadiq might

1678
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 5: be the guy. I think Dante more is the guy.

1679
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 5: Moore has been really good in a clean pocket this year.

1680
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 5: And guess what since Week five US He's pass rush

1681
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty fourth in pressure rate. There's only

1682
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty six teams in the FBIS. They're

1683
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 5: one oh eighth in sacks, they're eighty third and pass

1684
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 5: rush grade seventy seventh and pass rush winning rate. You

1685
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 5: get my point. They're not affecting the quarterback enough and

1686
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 5: they're not stopping the run. So where's where does USC's

1687
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 5: defense win here? Like, it's got to be a freak

1688
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 5: game from Anthony Lucas, it has to be an insane

1689
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 5: game from Jade Mayaba, who does you know, have a

1690
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 5: lot of big time throws, and he's got two elite

1691
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 5: receivers on the outside, Lemon and Lame who I love.

1692
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 5: But I don't see a ton of matchup advantages. I

1693
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 5: like one angle I can give you for USC is

1694
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 5: if Mayava just goes absolutely berserk. Oregon plays a ton

1695
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 5: of quarters coverage. They actually played quarters coverage at the

1696
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 5: highest rate in the entire Power four, and USC against

1697
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 5: quarters coverage this year over ten yards per play, which

1698
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 5: is the third most in the Power four. So you

1699
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 5: want to say that's the edge. Right when USC gets

1700
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 5: rolling and King Miller's running it and they get that

1701
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 5: tempo and all of a sudden, Mayava's in a groove,

1702
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 5: maybe you can get some giddy up on the offensive side.

1703
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 5: But Brian, I just don't know how us he's gonna

1704
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 5: get stops today.

1705
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the problem is. And you look at USC's

1706
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 4: defense against the two best offenses they face this season,

1707
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 4: that's Notre Dame and Illinois. And listen, Illinois is okay,

1708
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 4: they're not prolific, you know, just an awesome offense. But

1709
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 4: against those two teams, USC gave up an average of

1710
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: thirty four points per game, and they gave up an

1711
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 4: average of seven point two yards per play. And Oregon's

1712
01:28:54,120 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 4: offense is right there with Notre Dames and Illinois offense. Yeah,

1713
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be tough for USC to get enough stops.

1714
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 4: And listen, we're not talking about I think sometimes we

1715
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 4: cover this so much from like what the spread is.

1716
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 4: We're not talking about hey, USC getting within the number,

1717
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 4: We're talking about USC winning the game, you know what

1718
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 4: I mean? Like put the spread to the side, and

1719
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 4: we're talking about USC winning this thing. I don't know

1720
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 4: how they're gonna get enough stops to be in range

1721
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 4: to do that. So, yeah, I just don't have faith

1722
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 4: in this USC defense. And they've struggled in these spots.

1723
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 4: You know, in terms of being a road underdog, they

1724
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 4: have been bad. They've lost eight straight. They've lost they're

1725
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 4: ower and five with Lincoln Riley as their head coach

1726
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 4: in spots like this, And so you're expecting a Trojan's

1727
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 4: rush defense, which is one hundred and third in stuff rate.

1728
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 4: We're talking about stops like at or behind the line

1729
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 4: of scrimmage. You're one oh third, one hundred and third

1730
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 4: in that department. Well, what do you think Oregon's gonna

1731
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 4: do take advantage of that? They are just going to

1732
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 4: be like, you know, it's like a baseball pitcher, like

1733
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 4: the fastball's coming, you still can't hit it. You know, Like,

1734
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 4: we're gonna know that Oregon is going to be running

1735
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 4: the ball repeatedly. Yes, they're gonna throw forward passes as well,

1736
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 4: but they're gonna run the ball at will. And I

1737
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 4: just don't see USC stopping it.

1738
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, another angle to look at this game,

1739
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 6: and I like what you said there. Sometimes it's about

1740
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 6: looking at the spread. Sometimes it's just looking at gameplay.

1741
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a top ranked USC team this season,

1742
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 6: kind of unexpectedly emerging as one of the top teams

1743
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 6: in the country because it hasn't been a smooth ride there.

1744
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 6: The head coach obviously has drawn a lot of the

1745
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 6: criticism at USC, still trying to put it all together

1746
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 6: after leaving Oklahoma and the departure of Caleb Williams. But

1747
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 6: I digress. You know, there are times where you're just

1748
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 6: simply talking about, Hey, what would be the script if

1749
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 6: you're the trojan entering this Saturday, how.

1750
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,799
Speaker 2: Do you beat the Ducks? Is it even really viable

1751
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 2: or possible?

1752
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 6: And I really that's the reason why I focused on

1753
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 6: in my dissertation about the turnover game. That's really the

1754
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 6: only way I could see USC winning this game, as

1755
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 6: if they force turnovers. So if I'm the Ducks, I'd

1756
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 6: be looking for the peanut punch. You know, old Peanut

1757
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 6: Tillman out there for the Chicago Bears used to ball

1758
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 6: up his fists when he tackled receivers and ball carriers downfield,

1759
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 6: and he was one of the greatest players.

1760
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Defensively at dislodging the football. Get ready.

1761
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 6: If I'm USC, I am coaching that up ballgame long

1762
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 6: because we need turnovers.

1763
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1764
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 6: Outside of that, what do I look at in terms

1765
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 6: of handicapping this game where maybe you can make a

1766
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 6: little scratch if you're interested.

1767
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 2: The under feels very alive in this one.

1768
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 5: Wow.

1769
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, really, I don't think that this is going to

1770
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 6: be an extremely high scoring affair, even though USC's defense

1771
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,839
Speaker 6: is depleted against the run, Oregon's offense missing some key pieces,

1772
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 6: you know, you think about it through the standpoint of

1773
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 6: what should this game look like. It's probably going to

1774
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 6: be a little slower of a tempo game than we're

1775
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,679
Speaker 6: used to seeing from the Ducks. Offensively, I think they're

1776
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 6: going to control the ground. I think they're gonna control

1777
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 6: this game, and I think they'll end up winning it,

1778
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 6: obviously and probably winning it by a pretty wide margin.

1779
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 6: But I don't think it's going to be this fast paced,

1780
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 6: explosive game, you know, where you know it's chunk play

1781
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 6: after chunk play and fast scores. I think it's gonna

1782
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 6: be more of a slow plotting game script and it's

1783
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 6: going to yield less points than than more interesting.

1784
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 5: I really like both these USC receivers a lot. I

1785
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 5: think I think Lemon's gonna be a first round pick.

1786
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 5: I think he might be the first receiver taken in

1787
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 5: the draft. Honestly, I think it's gonna be between him

1788
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 5: and the Tennessee kid Brasel. I think both of those

1789
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 5: guys graded out really well this year. Actually, Lemon is

1790
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 5: the highest graded receiver per Pro Football Focus in the

1791
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 5: Power four, and Lane might be a top three round

1792
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 5: pick too, Like they both might be, you know, first

1793
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 5: three rounds. You know, that's an elite pair of aces

1794
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 5: on the outside for USC. But the Oregon secondary is equipped, right.

1795
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 5: They've got the second highest coverage grade behind Texas Tech.

1796
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 5: Pieneman is an elite safety SEC transfer. And then you

1797
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 5: got Kennedy and Finny Junior, both ranked top fifteen in

1798
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 5: PFF grades in the Power four amongst cornerbacks. So I

1799
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 5: think it is like, that's the matchup that Oregon has

1800
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 5: to win. If they don't, then this is gonna be

1801
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 5: a game if Oregon can defend these two outside receivers.

1802
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 5: I just don't see a path for USC today. I

1803
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 5: just don't. I think it gets really out of hand

1804
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 5: for Oregon because they're gonna get they're gonna move the

1805
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 5: ball in this game. They might it might be more

1806
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 5: of a running game, Brian like it might be, to

1807
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 5: Rich point, more of a fast moving clock because Oregon

1808
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 5: just pounds it all game long. But us he gets

1809
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 5: that engine revved and they get going. Man, they're tough

1810
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 5: to slow down. I think that's gonna be a fascinating

1811
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 5: part of this game is how Oregon handles that USC

1812
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 5: tempo and those outside receivers.

1813
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. You know what's funny is going back

1814
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 4: to what Rich was saying in a different direction about

1815
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,799
Speaker 4: the peanut punch. You think about Peanut Tillman, former cornerback

1816
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 4: of the Bears. I was trying to think of some

1817
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 4: of the signature moves of certain NFL great players, and

1818
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 4: it hasn't come close to how mainstream the peanut punch is.

1819
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 2: Now.

1820
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 4: You see it all the time in college football. In

1821
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 4: the NFL, it is mainstream, and you can talk about

1822
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 4: whatever you want, whether it's I don't know, the Dwight

1823
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 4: Feenie Dwight Freeny spin move, how great he was it?

1824
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 4: That's not like common all over the place, or remember

1825
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 4: the Reggie white club move. He just take his white

1826
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 4: arm and this club the offensive tackle right to the ground.

1827
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 4: You don't see that all over the place. Like, what

1828
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 4: other signature move from a player do you see mimicked

1829
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 4: all over the league?

1830
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 5: Nothing. It's the pet at.

1831
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 4: Punch right like that is a signature play. And you

1832
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 4: know he's got the uh, he's got the copyright on

1833
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 4: that kat pending.

1834
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1835
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 6: Well, but what's actually interesting is offensively, the way I

1836
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 6: remember when I was young, and you guys would probably

1837
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 6: feel the same way watching what Michael Vick was doing

1838
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 6: to defenses seemed unique and singular. Yeah, and now in

1839
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 6: a world where mobile quarterbacks are fifty percent of the league,

1840
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 6: if not more, it seems so usual, seems so ordinary.

1841
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 6: It seems almost like standard. If you don't have a

1842
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 6: mobile quarterback, you're really going to struggle. But Mike Vick,

1843
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 6: what he was able to do, changing the angles that

1844
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 6: defenses had to defend him and the receivers downfield, and

1845
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 6: also his ability to evade pressure. It was almost built

1846
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 6: in as a part of that Atlanta Falcons offense when

1847
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 6: he was down.

1848
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 2: There doing torching, the torturing the NFC South.

1849
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 6: It really was a part of the game plan, and

1850
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 6: when you game planned against them, it was like, who

1851
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,839
Speaker 6: are you gonna put in at your scout team quarterback

1852
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 6: to prepare for this guy, because it can't be your

1853
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,759
Speaker 6: normal pocket passer, throw a receiver back there or something,

1854
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 6: so your defense even has a chance at defending. And

1855
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 6: so I think now, looking back, if you remember where

1856
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 6: some of that started from, Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick, like

1857
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,560
Speaker 6: like that that was so unique back then, and to

1858
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 6: your point, like the Peanut punch, it's it's often replicated now,

1859
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 6: it's often forgotten that he really sort of mastered the move.

1860
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 6: But but yeah, Mike Vick was one of the four

1861
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 6: runners to the current quarterback prototype we see now.

1862
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty interesting, right, And listen, Peanut was a

1863
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 4: good player. He wasn't a Hall of Fame like legendary player.

1864
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 4: But to have this signature stamp on football today what

1865
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 4: he was able to do, that's awesome. That's a really

1866
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 4: really cool thing. I don't want this to be like

1867
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 4: hyperbolic or anything, but you think about how Steph Curry

1868
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 4: changed the game with three point shooting and how well,

1869
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 4: how great of a three point shooter he is. The

1870
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 4: volume of it, like teams like just just chuck up shots. Man,

1871
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 4: Like he has changed the game, and it is widespread

1872
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,919
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying it's on the same level in football,

1873
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 4: but you see the Peanut punch on the NFL level,

1874
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:48,480
Speaker 4: the college level consistently, and you're seeing games greatly impacted

1875
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 4: and totally changed because of that. And it's a move that,

1876
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 4: like Rich said, he perfected and it's his signature move. Yeah,

1877
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 4: it's really cool.

1878
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I forget who was against might have been the Titans.

1879
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 6: He had a game where he executed that that move

1880
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 6: against receivers, tight ends, running backs downfield, I think successfully

1881
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 6: forcing five or six force fumbles. I think five of

1882
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 6: them were recovered. It was something crazy like that. And

1883
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 6: so that game alone is what really stamped him with

1884
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 6: you know, look, obviously it's something that was practiced across

1885
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 6: the league in college football for years and years and

1886
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 6: years before Peanut and obviously afterwards. But because he had

1887
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 6: that one singular moment, and also he was known as

1888
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 6: a defender, Hey, you gotta really protect the ball when

1889
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 6: this member of the secondary is tackling you. When you

1890
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 6: play against the Bears. Like you said, he put his

1891
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 6: mark on the game and forever will remember his name

1892
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 6: as a result of it. It's a really really cool thing.

1893
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 6: And also, I think alliteration helps peanut punch, you know what.

1894
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just easy to say. Do you remember it?

1895
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:00,919
Speaker 2: I think I don't think we overlapped.

1896
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 6: I think he might have just wrapped up his career

1897
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 6: when I got in and I was drafted in two

1898
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 6: thousand and nine.

1899
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, very nice. I can just imagine you, like scooping

1900
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 4: up a fumble or something, and there's peanut popping. Yeah,

1901
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 4: there's peanut punching it out of rich o'st nickname too.

1902
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 5: You don't think of like peanut as being a good

1903
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 5: nickname for a cornerback. Oh yeah, but it actually fits,

1904
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 5: really it really did.

1905
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah fit great?

1906
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 2: All right?

1907
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 4: Uh that's rich Weinberger, Penn State All American. Wasn't a

1908
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 4: victim of the peanut punch. That's good. Jared Smith FSR,

1909
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,000
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Speaker 4: the way tire buying should be. And yes, the Blazers

1923
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 4: last night on the road against those Steph Curry Warriors,

1924
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Speaker 4: they got to win one twenty seven to one twenty three.

1925
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Speaker 4: Good for my season long Blazers bet right there, I

1926
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 4: made the season long bet. And then Chauncey Phillips is

1927
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 4: out of a job. What just happened, right, But that's good.

1928
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Speaker 4: Anytime the Blazers win, that's good for my season long.

1929
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Speaker 5: Proper coaches don't matter in the NBA, right, Bran, I'll

1930
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Speaker 5: tell you what tag to call back from an argument

1931
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Speaker 5: from like six months ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is a good segue. That is a

1933
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 4: good segue. There certain arguments that we've had and the

1934
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Speaker 4: tail of the tape, if you will, right, we'll get

1935
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Speaker 4: to that around the corner. Also a major shout out,

1936
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Speaker 4: and don't I'll call it a lock just yet. We

1937
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 4: got a lot to do. Hang with us. It is

1938
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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Bet MGM.

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1941
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1944
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1945
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1946
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Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

1947
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Speaker 4: and you'll find today's full show posted right after we

1948
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Speaker 4: get off the air. All right, major shout out here

1949
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Speaker 4: as we're looking at this Miami Virginia Tech game, Miami

1950
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 4: favored by over seventeen. They're gonna play Ander sand Man

1951
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 4: and then they're gonna get beaten down, most likely those Hokies.

1952
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 4: But I want to give a major shout out to

1953
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Speaker 4: your former boy James Franklin, right you, Nitny Lyons, you,

1954
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 4: Jared and Rich. I think it's so awesome that James

1955
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:00,080
Speaker 4: Franklin is diving right back in to coaching again. He

1956
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 4: could have easily sat around and done nothing, just like

1957
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 4: fanning himself with stacks of ten thousand dollars Penn State

1958
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 4: buyout money, and instead he took the Virginia Tech job

1959
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 4: that cost him about forty million dollars and buy out cash. Right,

1960
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 4: they came to an arrangement with Penn State and got

1961
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 4: paid about what nine million dollars is what it ended

1962
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 4: up being from the forty nine that they were on

1963
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 4: the hook to give him. And you could go back

1964
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Speaker 4: and forth and say, well, it wasn't gonna be that

1965
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 4: much money, and YadA YadA, that's fine. But if he

1966
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,799
Speaker 4: elected not to take the Virginia Tech job, he stood

1967
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 4: a great chance to get much more than those nine

1968
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 4: million dollars of buyout money from Penn State. I love

1969
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Speaker 4: that he's just diving right back in and he's like,

1970
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 4: I want to compete, I want to coach. This is

1971
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Speaker 4: what I do, this is who I am. When a

1972
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 4: lot of coaches there, there are a lot of people

1973
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 4: you know as well as I do. If you can

1974
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 4: get paid for doing nothing, that's that's where they want

1975
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Speaker 4: to be. And he didn't do that. I really respect

1976
01:42:58,760 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 4: him for doing that.

1977
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Speaker 6: I don't think the issue was he didn't want to coach, right,

1978
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 6: you know, so the fact that he is coaching next

1979
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,719
Speaker 6: season is of no surprise to me because he's a coach.

1980
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Speaker 2: And he wants to coach. And then also if you look.

1981
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Speaker 6: At it through the lens of what are you gaining

1982
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 6: what are you losing? Well, he gets nine million dollars

1983
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Speaker 6: from Penn State plus whatever he agreed to with Virginia Tech.

1984
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Speaker 6: It's going to a mass to more money over you know,

1985
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 6: the the the length of time than the forty plus

1986
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 6: million dollars.

1987
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Speaker 2: That he was doing the buyout.

1988
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Speaker 6: You know, so it all comes out in the wash,

1989
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 6: I guess essentially, is what I'm trying to trying to say.

1990
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Speaker 2: It's it's really interesting though.

1991
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Speaker 6: We live in a culture where it's become common for

1992
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 6: people to assume, hey, you know what, maybe it's time

1993
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 6: for a break, you know what I mean, Like you

1994
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 6: need a break, you need some rest. Hey, it's been

1995
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 6: a lot, Like not everybody does, you know, there are

1996
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 6: certain people who are just lifers in this thing. Like

1997
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick didn't need a break, didn't need a break.

1998
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 6: He wants he's a coach, he wants to coach. He

1999
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 6: went to you and see, much to the surprise of

2000
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 6: a lot of people. Now, is it going well with

2001
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 6: the tar heels?

2002
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:12,560
Speaker 5: No?

2003
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Speaker 6: Not currently. Is it kind of a strange sidebar storyline?

2004
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 6: What's going on with his his girlfriend, fiance whatever they

2005
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 6: are now? Jordan hurries, Yeah, I mean it's all kind

2006
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 6: of wild. But my point is the point that you

2007
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 6: were just describing. Yeah, credit to him for kind of

2008
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Speaker 6: doing what he wants to do it and doing it

2009
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 6: how he does it. But my goodness, we've gotten so

2010
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 6: kind of soft as a society to just assume that

2011
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Speaker 6: rest should be our default mode. Like, I mean, there's

2012
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Speaker 6: value in work, there's value and effort, there's value in

2013
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 6: you know, waking up with purpose every morning, and and like,

2014
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Speaker 6: look at this come from a guy who probably works

2015
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 6: maybe a little too much. I've been told that by

2016
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Speaker 6: important people in my life many times. I have a

2017
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 6: seven day week schedule during the fall every fall since

2018
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Speaker 6: I was eighteen years old.

2019
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Speaker 2: That's just how it goes.

2020
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Speaker 6: And I actually started working seven days a week all

2021
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,759
Speaker 6: year round about five years ago. I have since paired

2022
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 6: that schedule down during the off season, and again that

2023
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 6: was by request of people around me who love me

2024
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 6: and care about me and I care about too, and

2025
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 6: so maybe I'm looking at this through a very biased

2026
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 6: lens because that's how that's how my engine revs. But hey,

2027
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Speaker 6: I'll give James Franklin credit for the results. You know what,

2028
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,879
Speaker 6: James credit what James Franklin's good at. He's good at recruiting.

2029
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 6: He's good at turning football programs around. He did have

2030
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 6: Vandy before Penn State, and he'll do it again at

2031
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 6: VA Tech. And he is going to actually have maybe

2032
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 6: greater success out of high school with recruits because he's

2033
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 6: dominated the DC Virginia, Maryland metro areas as a recruiter

2034
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 6: and now he's keeping those players close to the home.

2035
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Speaker 6: So I think this is kind of a home run

2036
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Speaker 6: for Franklin, not a step back. And then for Penn State,

2037
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 6: we'll see who they hire if it's if the grass

2038
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 6: truly is greener.

2039
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Speaker 5: On the other side, what a great conversation about the

2040
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 5: dynamic of working environments in sports. Part of the agreement, Like,

2041
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 5: there's two sides to this working in sports argument. First

2042
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 5: argument is you have the coolest job in the world. Yes,

2043
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 5: and I agree, like I am humbled and bewildered at

2044
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 5: how cool my job is. On a daily basis, and

2045
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 5: I feel the same way about any coach, especially a

2046
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 5: head football coach at a D one school. And then

2047
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,560
Speaker 5: the other side of the argument is you get no

2048
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 5: days off. I don't take a day off during the

2049
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 5: ball season. I don't drink alcohol during football. I reduce

2050
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 5: the amount of fun that I have intentionally. I get

2051
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 5: told the same thing Rich gets told all the time,

2052
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 5: you work too much. Take a weekend off, for example.

2053
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 5: And I'm probably gonna jinx myself. Now We've been doing

2054
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 5: the show for four years.

2055
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 2: The only time I.

2056
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 5: Have not done this show on a Saturday morning is

2057
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 5: when the wildfires came to La last year.

2058
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 3: That was it.

2059
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 5: Like, I haven't taken a Saturday off in four years,

2060
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 5: and I don't intend to ever because this is the

2061
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 5: coolest fricking job in the world and I love it

2062
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 5: more than anything else. That's how James Franklin feels. He

2063
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 5: never wants to take a Saturday off. He was forced

2064
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 5: to take some Saturdays off this year, but he got

2065
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 5: back on that horse pretty damn quick. And Virginia Tech's

2066
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 5: going to be a problem on the recruiting trail for

2067
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 5: a lot of schools in the Northeast. Then in the

2068
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 5: big ten, big problem. Penn State lives in the Virginia, DC,

2069
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 5: Maryland area. That is where they eat. They turn their

2070
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 5: entire program around by getting Derek Williams to come to

2071
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 5: Penn State Maryland. That was the turning point of Penn

2072
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 5: State's program. Rich remembers it, well, we were freshmen. It

2073
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 5: was a huge Actually we were sophomore as they were

2074
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 5: freshmen when they recruited him. Yep, that was a huge

2075
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 5: turning board for Penn State when they were able to

2076
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 5: get Derek Williams, number one recruit in Maryland, to come

2077
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,839
Speaker 5: to Penn State, and it just changed the whole culture

2078
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 5: of the program. That was some really down years for

2079
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 5: Penn State in those early two thousands, and they got

2080
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 5: this Rich Hornberger kid who just completely turned things around too.

2081
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 5: But that region is crucial in the Northeast and in

2082
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 5: the Midwest, and I think James Franklin's gonna be a

2083
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 5: huge player in that. I don't think they're gonna win

2084
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,720
Speaker 5: a lot of ACC titles, but they're gonna be a

2085
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 5: problem on the recruiting trail. They're gonna get a lot

2086
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 5: of really good kids to come play there, and they're

2087
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 5: gonna compete. I am fascinated to see how Penn State

2088
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 5: counters this. They really need to get a big time

2089
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 5: recruiter to counter this, because we've already seen nineteen kids leave.

2090
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 5: That's the most decommits of any fire team in college football,

2091
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 5: way more than any of the SEC squad. Not to

2092
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 5: be fair, we don't know who's coaching those SEC schools yet,

2093
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 5: so it could change. But Pence they had a lot

2094
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 5: of decommits because of this, so I'm fascinated to see

2095
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 5: how that part of the process plays out. But the

2096
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 5: richest original point, we have the coolest job in the

2097
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 5: world to do this every week. And I totally agree

2098
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 5: that we're very soft as a society. We don't need

2099
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 5: days off.

2100
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 2: This is cool.

2101
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 5: We could be digging ditches somewhere, you know, changing sidings

2102
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 5: on roofs, but we're talking ball. That's a pretty damn good,

2103
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 5: pretty damn good setup for us.

2104
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, now, let's get to the Irish. My goodness,

2105
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 4: I mentioned in State and you conks are just off

2106
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 4: and running. My gosh, goodness. All right, we get to

2107
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 4: Notre Dame.

2108
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 6: Now.

2109
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 4: I don't want to speak anything into existence over here.

2110
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to do that. Whatsoever. But I read

2111
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 4: all this stuff, and I hear all these comments, and

2112
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 4: all the time I hear a if Notre Dame wins

2113
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 4: their last two games, which they should, they're a lock.

2114
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 4: They're in, And I'm like, ah, I expect them to

2115
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 4: get in, But I don't think it's a lock at all.

2116
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 4: Like if you look at college football and look at

2117
01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 4: the landscape, you're telling me there aren't some you know,

2118
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 4: curve balls that could potentially happen. Like if you look

2119
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 4: at let's say the Big Twelve championship game. Let's say

2120
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 4: it's Texas Tech, and let's say BYU. What if B

2121
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 4: WHYU wins that game? What if b WHYU wins out?

2122
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 4: Is Texas Tech out right? Are they still in? They

2123
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 4: probably find their way in still, I would imagine. And

2124
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 4: then you get into this debate of well, Notre Dame

2125
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:28,799
Speaker 4: didn't play a conference title game and Texas Tech shouldn't

2126
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 4: be penalized for losing theirs. There are all sorts of things.

2127
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 4: Maybe Alabama wins out, maybe there's pressure to you know,

2128
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 4: have Bama leapfrog Notre Dame Miami. If they went out

2129
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 4: in impressive fashion, they that's gonna get louder and Louder

2130
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 4: Miami beat Notre Dame and this is I want to

2131
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 4: use my inside voice for this, but this is the

2132
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 4: real potential curve ball that could bite Notre Dame. What

2133
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 4: about the injury bug?

2134
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 5: Huh?

2135
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 4: Remember Florida State when Jordan Travis went down and they

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Speaker 4: didn't have a college football layoff?

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Speaker 2: Berth.

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Speaker 4: Now, I was with four teams, but the same thing

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01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 4: could happen with twelve teams. What if Jeremiah Love got

2140
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 4: banged up, like and all of a sudden, the Committee's like, well,

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01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 4: it's not the same Notre Dame team. Bah like this

2142
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 4: idea that it's a lock if they just beat Syracuse

2143
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 4: and Stanford and nothing crazy can happen. That's I don't

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01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,560
Speaker 4: buy that at all. I think they're gonna make it in,

2145
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 4: but I don't call it a lock at all at

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01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 4: this stage.

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01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: Now, you know what's interesting, And the CFB committee hired

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01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 6: a new chair in lieu of some recent changes, and

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01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 6: your check came out and he was talking about specifically

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01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 6: Miami and Notre Dame in the new rankings, talking about

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01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 6: where they fit into the whole picture. It's just interesting

2153
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 6: when you think about when you think about Notre Dame,

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01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 6: the truth is with teams with big avid fan bases,

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01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 6: you really only need to get it right.

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01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 2: Once, and that is with the final playoff picture.

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01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 6: Now you're going to stir the pot, you're going to

2158
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 6: piss people off if things are either out of kilt

2159
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 6: or off kilter or out of whack in the weeks

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01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 6: leading up.

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Speaker 2: But you just got to get this right once.

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01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 6: So again you returning to the conversation we had earlier

2163
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 6: in today's show, but also over the course of the

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01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 6: past couple of weeks since the see if P rankings

2165
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 6: have been coming out consistently, you just really can't buy

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01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 6: into much right now because I also think that the

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01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 6: committee doesn't have their story straight. You hear from certain

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01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 6: committee members this, and then you hear from certain source

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 6: reports that you hear from other committee members that you

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01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 6: hear from the chair of this, and it's like you're

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01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 6: trying to sift through all of the bs to get

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01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 6: to the truth. And you know what the truth is, Brian,

2173
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 6: and I think you'll agree with this and Jared, you two,

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Speaker 6: The truth is they're trying to make college football as

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01:52:56,439 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 6: interesting as possible. They are trying intentionally to make you

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01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 6: nuts along the way, and at the end of the day,

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01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 6: they're going to make mistakes with the rankings, the final rankings.

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01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 2: Who's in and who's out.

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01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 6: Some team is going to be left in the cold,

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01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 6: looking in, on the outside, looking in and saying it

2181
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:16,600
Speaker 6: should have been us, It could have been us, and

2182
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 6: why isn't it us?

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01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 2: And you're going to have a situation, Oh what team?

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01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 6: Oh help me remember what team when it was still

2185
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 6: a four team playoff lost their quarterback late in the year.

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01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 5: Thank you, it was two years ago.

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01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 2: You just said that.

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01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so I mean it's just a perfect example.

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01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 6: I mean, like you're going to somebody is going to

2190
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 6: be heartbroken at the end of the year. It's how

2191
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 6: it's going to be.

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01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,600
Speaker 5: I don't think so. To Brian George on point, I

2193
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 5: would be shocked, and I hope the situation doesn't play

2194
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 5: out because that means Jeremiah Love's hurt and that sucks

2195
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 5: for college football. I would be shocked if Jeremiah Love

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01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 5: gets hurt and that's the reason that notre name gets

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01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 5: left out. That would suck on so many levels. First

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01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 5: of all, you could argue that Genarian Price is almost

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01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 5: right on his level in terms of talent, I think

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01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 5: Love's better slightly, but they have two really good running backs. Second,

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01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 5: I do think brand recognition in this case matters, because again,

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01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 5: what did we talk about earlier, If you're just joining us,

2203
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 5: we had a similar conversation to this at the top

2204
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,719
Speaker 5: of the show, and I think it's a lot of nuance,

2205
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 5: it's a lot of gray area with the College of

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01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 5: Well Playoff Committee. It's politics, and I think they love

2207
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 5: Notre Dame. Notre Dame is a big brand, and I

2208
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 5: think it's gonna take a lot to keep them out.

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01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 5: I don't think if they went out, I think they're in.

2210
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 5: I'll say that right now. If they're ten and two,

2211
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 5: Notre Dame is in. That's the last I think. That,

2212
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 5: to me is the most definitive word I can say

2213
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 5: on the issue.

2214
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see hey. Before we move it along to

2215
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:53,879
Speaker 4: rapid Fire, I did. I dusted off a couple of clips,

2216
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 4: oh no, from last week's particular episode now just as

2217
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 4: a reference point. Right, we had a little chat about

2218
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 4: the Crimson Tad if you will, and they were they

2219
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 4: were taking on uh Oklahoma, Uh this one?

2220
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 2: Where was it?

2221
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 6: Uh?

2222
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 2: Where's there?

2223
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 4: Here we go, here's one we look at Oklahoma against

2224
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 4: a very flawed, completely fraudulent Alabama team. So that that

2225
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 4: was like the the the jumping off point. Here here's

2226
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 4: another one. Alabama is total fool's goal. Okay, so that's

2227
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 4: where it started. And uh, you know, Richie, let's say

2228
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 4: it a little uh not quite.

2229
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 2: On board here the Bbama takes bad.

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01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 4: I like that.

2231
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 2: This one's good too, This one I I I completely

2232
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 2: disagree with.

2233
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 4: All Right, he's not on board. Not on board, Jared,

2234
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 4: you know, like in terms of the frauds, I think

2235
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 4: Alabama is a complete fraud. Okay, Jared, not on board.

2236
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 5: I think that's an insane take to call them a fraud.

2237
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 5: It's absolutely insane.

2238
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 2: Tate.

2239
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 4: This is the last one is my favorite one.

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01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 5: I just don't understand what sport you're watching. If you

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01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 5: think they're a fraud, that's I stand by that they're

2242
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 5: not a fraud. They lost the game, or they doubled

2243
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 5: the yardage of Oklahoma. They just had a really bad turnover,

2244
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 5: they turned into a pick six.

2245
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 4: That's like, that's a definition of a fraud team right there.

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01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 4: When you outgain an opponent by one hundred and eighty

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01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 4: four yards and you still lose at home.

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01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 5: It's a bad result, Brian, come on, let's not beat

2249
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 5: this dead horse. Bama's not a fraud. They were a

2250
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 5: really good football team that lost the football game to

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01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 5: another good football team. That's that's all it was. It

2252
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 5: was one game.

2253
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 6: I mean yeah, And also, I mean Alabama is going

2254
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 6: to finish this season a two loss team in the SEC.

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01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 2: They're going to play in the playoffs.

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01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 6: I don't understand how you could legislate a season, especially

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01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 6: where they've had as many top ten victories as they

2258
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,839
Speaker 6: did throughout the course of the year. Strength of schedule,

2259
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 6: especially when you pound your chest as a Notre Dame

2260
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 6: fan who basically plays one of the weakest schedules year

2261
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 6: after year after year here and they get in off

2262
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 6: of name recognition constantly.

2263
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 4: They have nine Top tay had one one top ten win.

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01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 2: You make it so.

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01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 5: They have the best stretch of any team in college

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01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 5: football this year, the best four game stretch of any

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01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 5: team in the country.

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01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 4: Awesome, Proud of them. And they found a way to

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 4: lose a game, almost out gaining an opponent by two

2270
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 4: hundred yards, and they got.

2271
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 2: Best defense in the country.

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01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 4: The State Florida State Game, the Florida Florida State lost

2273
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 4: again last night, and they crushed Bama.

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01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 5: Crushed transit. Property of football is so worthless. You could

2275
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 5: do this with everyone. Everyone's lost, to someone who's beaten.

2276
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 5: Someone watched the games and grade the talent. Stop taking

2277
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 5: one individual result and making it into this narrative.

2278
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that exactly.

2279
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 2: Yes you are.

2280
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 5: You're saying they're a fraud. That's an insane take, Brian.

2281
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 4: They're total.

2282
01:57:57,040 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 5: Any person who watches the sport regularly does not believe

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01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 5: that they are. They're a really good football team.

2284
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 2: They're not.

2285
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 4: You have no running game, they have an okay offensive line,

2286
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 4: they have an ok defense, and they're two relying on

2287
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 4: ty Simpson who wet himself last week. That's what they are.

2288
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 4: They're going nowhere and just like last week on that

2289
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 4: one are we got rich Orenberger, Penn State All American,

2290
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:27,840
Speaker 4: Jared Smith FSR analyst and a Bama apologist. I'm Brian, No,

2291
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 4: not drinking the roll tied kool aid this year, that's obvious.

2292
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 5: I'm just not calling them a fraud. That's all I'm doing.

2293
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 5: I'm just grading them for what they are.

2294
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, with your rose colored glasses over there, that's okay,

2295
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 4: but they roll with it man, that's fine, roll tied.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire, all right.

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Speaker 5: Jared go Marshall. App State over fifty six and a half.

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01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 5: Marshall's been balling lately. App State runs a super fast

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01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:02,560
Speaker 5: tempo BYU minus two and a half against Cincinnati. I'm

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02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 5: taking bear against the Bearcats, and we're going Charlotte plus

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02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,520
Speaker 5: forty three and a half against Georgia Kirby smart oh

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Speaker 5: for eleven win a big favorite of thirty eight or more.

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02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:15,840
Speaker 6: Okay, USC at Oregon under fifty nine and a half.

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02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 6: USC is gonna struggle moving the football against Oregon. Oregon's

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Speaker 6: gonna control the crownd game. Oklahoma minus five and a

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Speaker 6: half is where I got it, So minus four and

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Speaker 6: a half.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that too.

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Speaker 6: Ohio State minus twenty nine and a half against Rutgers.

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02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 6: They're eight and two against the spread. They're eaten against

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Speaker 6: the Scarlet Knights.

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Speaker 4: All right, give me the fighting Belichicks. Give me North

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02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 4: Carolina plus seven against Duke, better defense getting points at home.

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02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 4: Give me Missouri Oklahoma under twenty one and a half

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02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 4: in the first half for bulak back. I think it's

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02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 4: a slower start, Give me Jade and Baff, Florida running

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02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 4: back over eighty and a half rushing yards