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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ. Buck

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Speaker 2: back with you, Buck. How's it going on? My friend?

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Speaker 3: Man, it's going great. DJ.

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Speaker 4: Like we're getting one step closer to preseason games, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you're doing with the charges in

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Speaker 4: And then anytime I get to this time of year,

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Speaker 4: to those designated cutdown days and how all of a

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Speaker 4: love watching those hard knock shows because I think it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's one of the cool things about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it really keeps you you locked in.

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Speaker 4: And then DJ when you also talked about not only

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Speaker 4: Like being able to talk about it and in different philosophies.

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Speaker 4: But it's Look, it's it's a great time because it

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a big deal because I think

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to subject Bryce Young to get beat.

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Speaker 1: I think when you're in the building phase, like Carolina

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Speaker 2: I saw a thing the other day.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs have been they've already got They're already working

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Speaker 1: Like they're not they're not. They're not letting that we've

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Speaker 4: No, I think it's an interesting approach, and I think

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Speaker 1: The Patriots having out Drake May will play.

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Speaker 1: How many times have you seen practice reports go one

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Speaker 1: to play in the preseason, Buck, So your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Drake needs to play as much as possible.

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Speaker 4: We talk about where different people are in their developmental process.

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Speaker 4: Drake May enters the National Football League with twenty six

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm with you. I think he needs to play.

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Speaker 4: And if you're the Niners, let's be honest, like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, it's an interesting situation they find themselves in. Let's

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Speaker 1: All right, by a couple more here, bow Knicks listed

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Speaker 1: Chase Daniel. He posted this is kind of vintage Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make the rookie quote unquote, kind of earn it.

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Speaker 1: You know he's gonna start at three. Doesn't this feel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's two different thoughts, right, You've got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's I think that's going to

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Speaker 2: Man. I think that's what's kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: This is a practice we're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna show them, We're gonna make sure that they're not

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Speaker 4: But a lot of times you don't want anyone to

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Speaker 1: But I you know, everything you've heard about neighbors coming

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he's he's Look, he's a guy who plays

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Speaker 4: very a very intense competitor. And you know, for a

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Speaker 4: team like that, the Jacks can need some of that

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Speaker 4: on offense because.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who there.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who their guy was, I don't know

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Speaker 4: who was the party starter for them without say Kwan,

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Speaker 4: I don't know who the offensive player that kind of

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Speaker 4: sets the tone, that kind of gets it going.

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Speaker 3: Ideally, you don't necessarily like a wide receiver to do it.

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Speaker 4: You want someone maybe from one of those interior positions

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Speaker 4: to kind of get it done. But they need his competitiveness,

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Speaker 4: they need some of that animal.

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 4: What was also interesting is that you know swag. I

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Speaker 4: think that's what that's what it's coached on them. Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jones jumped in and kind of got got a little

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Speaker 4: got a little bit, yet it got into it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't want my franchise quarterback, but I do think

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Speaker 4: that can be endearing for the quarterback to mix it

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Speaker 4: up a little bit long as it doesn't get in

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Speaker 4: the way, Like I want you to kind of get into.

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Speaker 3: It, but get out, get out before before the scrum happens.

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Speaker 3: Let's get out.

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Speaker 1: No. I just think every time I hear like somebody

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Speaker 1: from Duke got in a fight, all I can think

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Speaker 1: of is was he slapping the floor like this? Was

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Speaker 1: he in a defensive stance and slap the four hands up?

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Speaker 4: How about that? How about that as a trademark? Like

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Speaker 4: that used to annoy me to know, Oh, it's the worst,

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Speaker 4: like like to no end. When I was in college,

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Speaker 4: my roommate uh club basketball is from Jersey, so he

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Speaker 4: was the biggest Bobby Hurley fan and I used to

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Speaker 4: tell him he's a trader, but he used to love

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Speaker 4: they slapped before.

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Speaker 3: He was all in on Jersey Bobby early this and

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Speaker 3: then I was like, he's so annoying.

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Speaker 4: And because Duke was so good at that time, every

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Speaker 4: ANNOUNCEDENTI Duke the intensity.

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Speaker 2: So annoying, clapping the floor. So they do that anymore.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen that anymore.

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Speaker 4: I think that'might be gone now. They don't do it anymore.

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Speaker 4: They don't play defense like that anymore either.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, there was a shot. I'm just saying it on

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Speaker 3: they don't play defense like that anymore. Like that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take Bucky, take Caroline out of bucket.

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Speaker 1: Last one, last little nugget here from training camp.

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Speaker 2: We'll hit for today. Uh. Jalen hurts no one.

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Speaker 1: They've been charting all this stuff, which sometimes I think

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Speaker 1: is kind of silly that they do this, but it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long time and we're deep into

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Speaker 1: training camp. For him not to turn the ball over,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was something somewhat interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's good that he hasn't turned the

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Speaker 3: ball over.

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Speaker 4: I am really curious about this transition because this offense

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Speaker 4: is completely changing. Kellen Moore is running a traditional pro

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Speaker 4: style offense. To me, I've talked to you about like

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Speaker 4: when Jalen Hurst was coming out, I compared him to

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Speaker 4: Dak Prescott. To me, this is very interesting to see

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Speaker 4: if Kellen Moore can work his magic like you work

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Speaker 4: with Dak Prescott. In terms of Dak Prescott really improved

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Speaker 4: from the player that he was at Mississippi State to

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Speaker 4: the player that he is now as a passer night

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Speaker 4: and day. Can Killen Moore help Jalen Hurts make a

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Speaker 4: similar transition. Once you paid Jalen Hurst the type of

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Speaker 4: money that you paid him, you can't continue to run

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Speaker 4: him like he ran those early years. He has to

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Speaker 4: be able to transition into being more of a pocket

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Speaker 4: playmaker who uses his legs occasionally as opposed to the

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Speaker 4: guy who is the athletic quarterback that is using his

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Speaker 4: legs primarily. If he does that, if killing Moore helps

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Speaker 4: him do that, the Eagles not only benefit this year,

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Speaker 4: but they benefit in the future because now they can

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Speaker 4: continue to transition this offense to one that can be

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Speaker 4: dynamic but in a different fashion.

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Speaker 1: Who did we compare Jalen Hurts to coming out of

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Speaker 1: college Buck.

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Speaker 4: Look, it was all Dak Prescott to me. I thought

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Speaker 4: he was the time. I thought he was a clone.

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Speaker 4: And so if Kellen Moore is able to do it,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's easier for killing Moore to do

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Speaker 4: it because he's done it once with Dak Prescott, I

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Speaker 4: think he can show him Cowboy's tape and I think Jalen.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the success that he had against the Eagles too.

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Speaker 3: I think he can envision.

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Speaker 4: I can think he can envision himself doing some of

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Speaker 4: the things that Dak Prescott has been able to do

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Speaker 4: in that offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm h'm that's one of those things. I

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Speaker 1: don't think people have talked a lot about that with Kellen.

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Speaker 1: You know, with Kellen being there, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people didn't even realize that he was a quick

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Speaker 1: quick stop with the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He is back in the NFC East, a division that

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Speaker 1: kel Moore had a lot of success with. UH with

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott in that Cowboy offense, So he knows everybody

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Speaker 1: really really well there. That's gonna be fun to watch

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Speaker 1: what that offense looks like at Sa Kwon Barkley into

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Speaker 1: the mix. It's gonna be uh. It's gonna be musty TV,

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Speaker 1: so looking forward to that again. No interceptions, no turnovers

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Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts. I think you get carried away with

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Speaker 1: chart and stuff in the in in practice, but that's

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Speaker 1: I think that's notable.

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Speaker 2: I think it's impressive.

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Speaker 1: All right, Buck, that's gonna do it for us today Again,

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Speaker 1: quick pods this week. We've got another one coming up

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Speaker 1: this week, so be on lookout for that. But that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. I hope you guys enjoyed it. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time right here on.

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Speaker 2: Move the sticks