1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: What's up. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: It's way up with Angela ye Angela yee, of course, 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: and I have two special guests. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Joining me today. 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: We have Sonya Curry in the building and doctor Lucille O'Neill. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: I can call you doctor right, yes, you prefer that? Okay? 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: Well, perfect, And you guys have teamed up to put 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: out a new show, Raising Fame, which is all about 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: parents raising their children who have gone on to become 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: famous and some of the things that happen. And nobody 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: better to host that show than the two of you. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: You know clearly you both have famous children, very talented children. 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: But that's not an easy journey. 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: No, it's not. No, it's nothing. But with this program, 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 4: we're able to share a lot of the stories coming 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: from other parents because we often talk about how they're 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: then even ours is not there now and it's been 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 4: a journey to get to the place where all of 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: us are, and those are stories that we want to share. 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: But it's ironic how we came together. Sonya interviewed me for. 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: The podcast and then you'll just hit it off, and 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: then we hit it off, and then we wanted to 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: present it as a TV show. We were like, well, 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: who's gonna host with me instead of Dell? And the 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: first person that I thought of, and the first person 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: that our producers, Eric and Tracy thought of was Lucille 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: and so bam, we were on you know, we were 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: in tandem with that and on the same page and 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 3: called her and graciously she said, yes, so here we are. 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: Doctor O'Neill. 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: How was that for you being on that side of things? 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: I saw on the trailer you talked about like, you know, 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: you do get a little nervous when it's time to 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: be the person sitting in that chair interviewing someone. 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: We get nervous, but we try to stay mindful of 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: who we talk who we're talking to, and we try 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: to put ourselves in that place because the tables could 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: turn right, and we're just mindful of the questions that 40 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: we ask and how we go about doing the interview. 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: But everyone that we talked to that we made them 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: feel comfortable. We were honored that they invited us into 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: their home and it has been working out really well. 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: And being in their homes and going to the hometowns 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: and seeing where the journey started makes you more at ease. 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: Because all of our guests were just so welcoming, as 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: Lucille just said, and it was like we do it 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: at their kitchen tables or in their living rooms, and 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: you know, it was just talking. It was like talking 50 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: to friends about our children, you know, and so it's 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: just like, let's just sit down and let's just share, 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 3: you know, parental stories about you know, the ups, the downs, 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: the challenges that we had with parenting, and a lot 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: of times our faith, because that was a common theme 55 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: was our faith along the way. And you know, we 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: were blessed. I mean, everyone who's watches what is going 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: to watch this show is going to be blessed. But 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: every interview that Lucille and I left with, we left 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: with just like a fullness about just life and humanity 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: and just the community of parenting in general. And if 61 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: there's anything that parents and to love doing is talking 62 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: about their kids. My parents are always calling me from 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: some random place. I'm like, how do they know you're 64 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: my parents? Like y'all just walked in somewhere because they 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: used to love to go places. They're like, oh, I'm 66 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: here with the person at the supermarket. They want to 67 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: say hi. 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, now, how did this even come up? 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: Were you guys like that as mom's like at first 70 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: initially when your kids were kind of starting to blow up, 71 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: uh to go places and kind of like bragging on 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: your kids. 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: You know, we're still in that place. 74 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are. Their journey's still going right. 75 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I have to remind people sometimes my name is 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: Lucille and because they call me Shaq's mama, and then 77 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: I say, well, I got other children too. I'm Latifa's mama, 78 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: Ayisha's mom's mom's mom, not only Shaq's mom. 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: So we got yes, how was that too? 80 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Just because you know Afy with Shaquille, with Steph Curry, 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: they're very super superstars. But then you guys do also 82 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: have their children, and you want to make sure that 83 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes people could feel a way it's. 84 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: A family affair. It would be different if they were 85 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: not included in the things that Shaquille does. But he 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: includes the entire family. And I was telling one of 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: the young ladies that we were speaking to in the 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: green room that after a while, our young boys, our 89 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: young men, became become our daddies. They want to be 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: the boy. The boys want to become our daddies. But 91 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 4: our family is very protective of each other. And has 92 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: been working out very well. 93 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: How much did he weighed when he was born? 94 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: Seven to eleven? 95 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: Okay, that's not even men, I mean poor little stephth 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: something happened along the way. I don't know what you mean, 97 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: checked because I definitely, but you know, to your point, 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: it was just you know, as a family, you know 99 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: you have sibling ravelies in general, right, you had the 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: craziest on the crazy yes, and so you know you 101 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: have to really rear your children to not think about that. 102 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: Like in our house, we are not competitors. We are 103 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: protectors of each other. And you know, all three of 104 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: my children have established some notoriety, all three of them. 105 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: And then but the beautiful thing along the way of 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: raising them was we are all in this together. You know, 107 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: we're one big machine. We're one big Curry family, and 108 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: so everybody, you know, serves a purpose in creating who 109 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: we are. And so everybody, you know, Lucille and I 110 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: have talked about this a lot, and with other parents. 111 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: You know, we make sure that we let them know 112 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: that everybody was created for a purpose. Yes, and you 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: know they have to be nurtured that way. Independently. We 114 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: have this thing in our family where it's like we 115 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: treat you, we treat you equally, but not the same, okay, 116 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: because equally means I'm gonna give you one hundred percent 117 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: of me as a parent, but it's gonna look a 118 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: little bit different because y'all are a little bit different. 119 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: And so meeting them where they each were individually, I 120 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: think gave them the confidence to not be jealous of 121 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: each other, but to know they're doing the best and 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: what they've been called to do, and so they can 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: cheer each other on doing this show raising fame make you, 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: guys think about how you were raised and the lessons 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: that you learned from your parents growing up, and if 126 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: you could share a little bit of some of the 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 3: reflections that you had while you were interviewing people like 128 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: John Legend and Danielle Brooks and Kevin Durant and you know, 129 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: Chadwick Boseman's parents, even what were some of the things 130 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: that you guys were thinking about about how you were 131 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: raised and what brought you to be in this space 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: that you're in right now. What I loved about being raised, 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: you know, from my mom, was that she was always 134 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: there to cheer me on, like she never put any 135 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: parameters around anything that I did, and whatever I did, 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: she was always present. She was there cheering me on, 137 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: sometimes more than I wanted her to. And I found 138 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: myself and my kids got older, I'm in the stands 139 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: as people are, you know, I'm seeing on TV a lot. 140 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: I'm just the loud one, you know, and Delle was 141 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: the more subdued one. And so sometimes I catch myself going, oh, 142 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: you're acting just like your mom, So chill out a 143 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: little bit, because I was. Yeah, because I'd be embarrassed 144 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: when my mama's doing that sometimes. So I'm like, I 145 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: know they're embarrassed. Yeah, yeah. Being present, just being present with. 146 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: Them, well, I often think about when my mother used 147 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: to tell me, when you see the gift and your children, 148 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: you need to nurture the gift. And so that's what 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: I try to do with all of my children because 150 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: they all have a special gift. I believe that everyone 151 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 4: has a gift anyway. But my mother told me she 152 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: looked at Shaquill one day, she said that one right there, 153 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: that one right there, he's special. And I just believe, 154 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: because of his presence in this world that he is 155 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: a special kind of a man. And I continue to 156 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: push and nurture that, and then I tell Jamal, Jamal, 157 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: you can't be Shaquille. Shaquille, You're absolutely not Jamal Tief. 158 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: You can't be the Issha Aisha never tried to be Latifa. 159 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: So all of them have a special gift for just 160 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: being warm and kind and generous and compassionate. We try 161 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: to really, really just continue to teach them to do that. 162 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: And when we sit around and talk with the parents, 163 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: we realized that all of us are in a place 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: where we can relate to each other. The folk that 165 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: we interviewed there on the other side of the table, 166 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: but the stories that they tell us, some of them 167 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: have We've been there, done that might be in the 168 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: same place, but it blesses us to be able to 169 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: hear what they're telling us so that we can share 170 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: in their place that they're in. It's so amazing. I 171 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: can't wait for the viewers to watch it. We prayed, 172 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: we laughed, we cried, and they're going to be doing 173 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: all of that when they see this program. 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: How did you guys decide which would be the premiere episode? 175 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: Because I know that's a big deal too. When you 176 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: think about, Okay, this show is coming out. It's going 177 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: to be out July seventh, by the way, at ten pm, 178 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: nine Central on TV one. But Danielle Brooks and her 179 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: parents are first. Both of her parents are present for 180 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: that interview and throughout. So how did you decide on 181 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: that one as the premiere? 182 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: We didn't really have a say, you know, the network 183 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: TV one, and then our producers Eric and Tacy, Thank you. 184 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: Eric and Tracy similar actually have worked on that behind 185 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: the scenes. And I'm kind of glad because we would 186 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: leave every episode this was going to be first, and 187 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: then we get to the next one, We're like, oh, man, 188 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: well this one's going to be first, and so all 189 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: of them to us had a special place in our hearts. 190 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: So I'm glad we didn't have to decide. 191 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: And as a surprise, I have an episode with my 192 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: children and Shaquille and we haven't told anybody that, so 193 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: I let the cat out of the bag and I 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 4: had to do that. 195 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: I had to do that one all by myself. 196 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: But y'all know each other so well now, I'm sure 197 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: like that is like having a conversation with a friend. 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: And you guys have a lot in common. 199 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: You're both authors as well, so congratulations, thank you on that. 200 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: And I want to talk about these but what these 201 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: book titles? So walk like you got. 202 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Somewhere to go, Walk like you have like you have 203 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: somewhere to go. Sorry, sorry for. 204 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: My no, that's okay, but we're gonna get it right. 205 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: In the subti, it is from mental welfare to mental wealth. 206 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: And I talk about forty years of my life. How 207 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: when Shaquil was born, I had no business being a mother. 208 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 4: But going back, I was only seventeen, about to be eighteen, 209 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: and I in my memoir. They called it a memoir, 210 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: but I call it a testimony. I tell her about 211 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: the years that I traveled. I was not always in 212 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: a good place, but God has blessed me. I'm in 213 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: a better place now and I'm wealthy, mentally wealthy. And 214 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 4: there was a time when I was And so it 215 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: doesn't have anything to do with the dollar bill. But 216 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: I got a sound. 217 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: Mind and he went back to school. 218 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: I went back to school, and I was in my forties, 219 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 4: late forties. And when you have a dream, I tell 220 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: young people, when you have a dream, don't ever let 221 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 4: go of it. Because I was coming out of high 222 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: school when Shaquil was born. But I always had a 223 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: dream to go to college. We teach our children you 224 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: need a college education, go to college, and I felt 225 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: bad because I didn't have any. But God blessed Shakil. 226 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: He said, Mommy, if you go to college and you 227 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: keep your grades up, I'll pay your tuition. So I 228 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 4: had driving. I wanted to go to college. 229 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: That's a. 230 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: Boy parents, I'm so lady. 231 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: It's not a forever student. 232 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: So I love that because I felt like, no matter what, 233 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: like I'm the type of person I'm still taking classes 234 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: and courses. I just took my real estate exam this 235 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: year and passed and got my license in that. But 236 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: I think you can never learn enough. And I think 237 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: if you have a dream and being able to pursue something, 238 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: what was that like for you to actually get your 239 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: It was rewarding. 240 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: And you know why I was rewarding because I took 241 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: the classes, I did the work, and they didn't have 242 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: to just hand it to me. And that was so 243 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: amazing to me because over forty, you know, it's not 244 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: kicking in like it used to when you were twenty 245 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: and twenty five. 246 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: I'd be forgetting everything. 247 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: Thought I fought for it, and I'm so happy that 248 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 4: I completed the courses. When I think about it, it's 249 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: a permanent smile on my face because the journey from 250 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: going to Bethune cook me in University Fee Poenix, then 251 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: back to Bathune cooked me and working on the board. 252 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: It's so rewarding for me because I put in the work, 253 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 4: and I tell young people put in the work, you're 254 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: going to be rewarded. 255 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: And didn't you graduate? Come loud to yes, ma'am. Okay, 256 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we don't forget that part. 257 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: Too, I did. 258 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: You really do have to earn? 259 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: Yes? 260 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: And for you, Sonya, your book is called fairst Love 261 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: all right. And I saw Steph Cary actually sat down 262 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: and did a nice interview with you for the for 263 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: the for the book to come out. 264 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: Yes, that must have been fun to have him sit 265 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: there and interview you. It was an audience, you. 266 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: Know, to have your child sit and well, sometimes it 267 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: can be a little intimidating because you're like, do they 268 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: remember the stories that I put in in the book. 269 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: My middle son, Seth had made me laugh because they 270 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 3: interviewed him and he was like, I don't remember none 271 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: of that, and I'm like, dude, But it was fun 272 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: because they participated in it. Like I asked them to 273 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: give me their top three memories of them growing up 274 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: and parenting, and so they did. So they participated in 275 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: what went in the book. But for me, it was 276 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: you know, it was some healing that went into that 277 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: because you get to go all the way back to 278 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: when I was a child, and you know, to speak 279 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 3: to your question before of how we were raised, how 280 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: it affected how I raised my children, to go all 281 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: the way back to the beginning of my childhood and 282 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: bring it forth to where we are right now, my 283 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: children and being adults, and so I got to kind 284 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: of revisit my life up until fifty years of age, 285 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: and so there were really moments of being proud, but 286 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: there were also a lot of moments of vulnerability, of 287 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: sharing stories with other people, and very therapeutic and rewarding 288 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: because I never thought I'd be an author, right, never thought. So, 289 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: you know, you talk about the degree and becoming a 290 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: doctor and me becoming you know, an author. I just 291 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: shake my head and I smiled to because it's like 292 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: what we say, you say, don't say a book say, 293 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: you know, it's your testimony, and we all have testimonies 294 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: in us. Everybody's life is a book. 295 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: So and I think it's timing too, like when is 296 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: the right time to write a book, because you know, 297 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: I think about that too, and I never wanted to 298 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: do something like that too early. I just and it's 299 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: also hard because it is, you like putting a lot 300 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: of things and trying to figure out like what's too 301 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: much to give, what's the balance of like what I 302 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: want to say, because you're also when you tell your 303 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: storytelling other people's stories as well, because that plays. 304 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: A role in who you are, you know. 305 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: And Angela the ghostwriter that I had, excuse me, the 306 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: ghostwriter that I had, you know, he told me, you know, 307 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: once we put that our stories on paper, it really 308 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: is no longer our book. It's no longer our story 309 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: because people take our stories and they you know, encompass 310 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: them into their lives and then they use it whichever 311 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: way they want to use or need to use it. 312 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: And so at the end of the day, I just 313 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that my story could help and 314 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: encourage somebody else along this journey of parenting, because it's 315 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: not easy and there's a. 316 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: Lot of honesty that you had, you know, in yours 317 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: and You're right. Once you do, it is not just 318 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: your story anymore. You're sharing that and people will interpret 319 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: it how they want. They'll critique what they want to critique, 320 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: they'll support what they want to support. But everybody's going 321 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: to have a different emotion attached to it, and sometimes 322 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: like we cannot make ourselves seem perfect. 323 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: But that is the plan to put it out there 324 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: because you know that there are so many people that 325 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: have that same story. A lot of things remain the same. 326 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: The only thing that changes is the name. 327 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Right. 328 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: I found out to be true. 329 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: Yes, And you guys had a great interview with Magic 330 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: Johnson and had the opportunity to talk and it was 331 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: so honest, like to hear you guys pulling things out 332 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: of people that I don't know if anybody could handle 333 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: it with a degree of you know, delicateness that you 334 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: were able to do that as well, coming from the 335 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: space that you guys are coming from. Just to hear 336 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: him talk about even like getting diagnosed with HIV and 337 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: being so open and vulnerable about that situation and also 338 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: how that affects your family, because that is something that 339 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: not only did he say that, but it's also now 340 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: your mom is dealing with you know, all of that 341 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: and having to speak on that too. 342 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: Well, Angela, we put ourselves in Miss Chris's place and 343 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: we were able to just see it from both sides 344 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: and being able to sit down and just talk with Magic, 345 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: Miss Chris and other members of the family. It was 346 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: a blessing for us as well, right, And we believe 347 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: in having compassion. You know, we talked, we looked over 348 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: the questions that we were going to ask. We didn't pull, 349 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: we didn't pull. We made them comfortable and we got 350 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: comfortable too, just like we're sitting down talking now. We 351 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: felt that home and they felt that home with us, 352 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: and that's why they were able to open up with us. 353 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: And Magic felt really comfortable telling him story and. 354 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: That's why we're also just so I mean, hearing you 355 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 3: recount that just took me to that place of sitting 356 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: with him. And that's why this show is so special. 357 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: It's just not a show. It's just not it's not 358 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: reality TV. It is real TV. And these are people 359 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: doing interviews that have never done interviews before. But somehow 360 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: God has opened their hearts to us and allowed us 361 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: to come into their homes and to hear these stories. 362 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean the late Chad with Bozman's parents never done 363 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: an interview before and after his passing. They're still grieving 364 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: and they were like, they don't even want to say 365 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: his name through because of their grief. And so to 366 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: allow cameras, Luscill and I to come in and talk 367 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: about a trust that that's God, that's God saying he 368 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: needed this for the world. So you know, we're this 369 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: is serious for us. This is just not about Hollywood 370 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: or our fame or anything. It is really about building 371 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: community around truth and around vulnerability and around encouragement as parents. 372 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: Because nobody sets out to say I'm gonna raise a 373 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: famous person. We just need to make sure we don't 374 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: get in the way. It is what needs to happen 375 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: as parents. And so you know, this is this is 376 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: a This is a wonderful, wonderful opportunity for anyone who 377 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: will watch it. For us, after we've been a part 378 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: of it, the producers, the network, it has just been 379 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: a wonderful, blessed experience for us. 380 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: And besides that, it's not our story to tell, right, yes, 381 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: and so we appreciate the opportunity has come that a 382 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: lot of people can tell their own story we've been 383 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: dealing with social media for a while. We've been dealing 384 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: with media for a while. We sit down talking to 385 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: people and they don't always get the story the way 386 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: we've given it. But this time, you're gonna get honesty. 387 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 4: You're gonna get the story, and it's coming from the 388 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: person that can only tell it the way that it 389 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: should be told. 390 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: Man, I'm looking forward to seeing all of the episodes. 391 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: Like I told you guys beforehand, I've seen two of them, 392 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: and the other one I saw was Fantasia. And so 393 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: we were talking earlier about being a teenage mom, and 394 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: Fantasia's mom was a teenage mom. Fantasia was a teenage mom, 395 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: and there's a stigma that can be attached to that. 396 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: But look at the success that all of you have 397 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: had in raising your children, and you know, I just 398 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: love that because sometimes people think you can't have it all, 399 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: or you know, it's just like, oh man, this is 400 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: a throwaway or whatever. But look at that, Like, I 401 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: just love the way that she was able to tell 402 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: that story, even talking about Fantasia's name, you know, and 403 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: how she decided to name her daughter Fantasia, Like that 404 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: was such an interesting story to me and something that 405 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: I've never heard before. 406 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna hear a lot that you've never heard because seriously, 407 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: and it's gonna bless you as well. 408 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: And the other part about the show that it's not 409 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: even just about the parents telling the story. It is 410 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: an opportunity for the celebrity to actually tell a love 411 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: letter to their parents. And you know, we had Billy 412 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: Porter Jr. In his you know, that interview with his 413 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: mom and sister together, and then you know, his mom's 414 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: recently passed, so they'll have this show that's beautiful to 415 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: keep forever. And you know, they may have they wouldn't 416 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: have had it. I won't say they may not have 417 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: had it, they would not have had it, but if 418 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: it had not been for this show. So those are 419 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: the things that people are going to see and we're 420 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: really proud of. 421 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: And I know some of. 422 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: These episodes will say parents, but then also and his 423 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: mom right now where there situations where like we would 424 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: have loved for the father to be involved. There are 425 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: some yes and it just didn't happen the way yes, okay, 426 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: And some of the episodes you know that we've done, 427 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: even like with the podcast was you know, it was 428 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: older siblings. 429 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: So you know, as we continue with the show, it's 430 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: really just about whoever raised the celebrity or had and 431 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 3: you know, some input and influence into their lives. So yeah, 432 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: their dads or moms and grandparents and you know, siblings. 433 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 3: As we talked about who played huge roles in the 434 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: celebrities lives raising them. 435 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: When we think about work ethic, right, and you know, 436 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: sometimes we can watch some of these documentaries and be like, 437 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: their parents were so hard on them, they made them 438 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: do X, Y and Z. I want to know what 439 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: your guys does, because there is a balance between pushing 440 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: your children to be their best. But then sometimes people 441 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: feel it, Like I think when we watch things today, 442 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: people take things differently. Some people are like, their parents 443 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: were so hard on them, They're so strict. Why are 444 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: you doing that to a kid? Why can't you let 445 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: them be a kid? Versus I see the talent in 446 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: you and I want to push you to be the 447 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: best that you can be. 448 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: Can you speak that. 449 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: A little bit as far as your own experiences with 450 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: your children? 451 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: I want to say, Angela communication has been so important 452 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: in our family because Shaquille had a dream and we 453 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: realize that in order to help that dream manifest, he 454 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: would have to be the one to put in the work. 455 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: But the foundation that was laid the family is gonna 456 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: support you. It made it a little easier for him 457 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 4: because he knew that he had to put in the work, 458 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: and we just continue to encourage him. It wasn't easy 459 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: because a lot of times he didn't want to do it. 460 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 4: But the encouragement that a parent gives to the child 461 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: is so important because they think they're alone if they're 462 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: trying to do it one way, and then they have 463 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: the influence from the outside world. But when you have 464 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: that family support, that system in itself, it makes for 465 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: a better a better person. They learn how to work 466 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: because what you want you have to work for. It 467 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 4: is not given to you. So in all of that, 468 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: the work ethic is made. Whatever you want, you go 469 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: to work. You don't wait for anybody to give it 470 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 4: to you. So it starts way back when. And we 471 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: all we as parents have dreams too. Our dreams may 472 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: come later because we learn how to put them first, 473 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 4: but yet and still we all put into work. 474 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: And I'm probably one of those parents that then rehab 475 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: for being too hard. Talked to earlier about the fact 476 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: that I also was ran to school, started my own schools. Yeah, 477 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: and so my kids had to go to school with 478 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: me till sixth grade. And then, you know, and then 479 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: I'm coaching to coach my daughter, and I'm just always 480 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: on them. I know, they just felt like if this woman, 481 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 3: don't go away. But you know, and there are moments, 482 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: like I say this in my book, there's moments where 483 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, was I too hard? You know? Was I 484 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: too hard? Or let me put it this way, did 485 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: I play enough of you know, like the mommy role 486 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: where I'm the nurture one or whatever, or was I 487 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: just always coaching and teaching? Right? And then we do 488 00:23:53,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: an episode with one of the celebrities whose mom managed 489 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: and he said, there's sometimes where I just wanted my 490 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: mom to hug me, and she's saying, I want to 491 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: just help you. I got to help you. This is 492 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: my job. I got to look after you. And so 493 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: she's in that mindset of that, and he's going, I 494 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: appreciate that, but there are moments where I just need 495 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: my mom. So you know, we'll hear stories about that 496 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: and where it is it's a balance of you want 497 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: to help them, you want to be present. You want 498 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 3: to nurture them, but you can't forget that they just 499 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: need their parents, and that our roles change along the way. 500 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: You know, you're one way, you know when they're babies, 501 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: and you're this when as they get older, high school 502 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: and then college and then I've just settled in on 503 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 3: right now as the adult because we're still a parents 504 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: and they're still progressing in their journeys of celebrity. Is 505 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 3: just be present and pray because it's all I can 506 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: do now. And I'm somewhat trying to get back some 507 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: of those moments of just us being present and not 508 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: having to help solve anything or coach them. Just as 509 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: Lucille Selton, just listen. They just need to listen. They 510 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: don't need advice anymore. 511 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: And I made mention a few years back when I 512 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 4: had dealings with a lot of the mothers of the 513 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: professional basketball players. I reminded them, you're not the girlfriend, 514 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: you are still the mother. So we all had to 515 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: make sure we stayed in our place. Yeah, we're gonna 516 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: always be the mother. Can't be the girlfriend. And we 517 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: get a little extra money, we want to wear the 518 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 4: diamonds and drive the beautiful cars, but we're not the girlfriends. 519 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: Or wives or wives. 520 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: Thank yeah, you said you had to learn to be 521 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: like well that you raised your signs just like, okay, 522 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: now y'all take over for the wives. 523 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: Yes they're yours. 524 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all yours, you know. 525 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: And I'm sure it's hard also seeing things like in 526 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: the press and all the drama sometimes and now you. 527 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: Gotta be like, what's going on over there? 528 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Do you mind your business when it comes to that 529 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: or do you actually ask questions? 530 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: Mind your business? 531 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 4: I do both. I'm gonna ask questions and I'm going, well, well, 532 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: you talk about bounds, we know when to let up, 533 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: and we know the pressing. 534 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: That's hilarious now where Stephen's had very competitive against each 535 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: other because you know, it is such a competitive sport 536 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: and for both of them to have the success that 537 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: they've had, what do you teach. 538 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: Them at home? Are they going at it like I 539 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: love it? 540 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: Because we're a very competitive family anyway. So if it's 541 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 3: gonna be. 542 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm not talking to you, yeah, but you know, 543 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: as long as you're respectful to each other and you learn, 544 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: you use those as teachable moments to you, you know, 545 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: of making sure the priority is right. 546 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: You know, I'd be pissed too if I lost, so 547 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't like get on them for getting mad. When 548 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: you know my middle so, Stephen cheats. He cheats. Y'all 549 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: always called fouls for him, and I was like, no, 550 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 3: we're not wanting up in here. You know, you're just 551 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 3: going to figure this out. So you know, you just 552 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 3: learn how to just bring positive out of that. And 553 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: those are the things of life too, so you use 554 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: them as life teaching moments, and uh, it's fun because 555 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: we're a competitive family. So I try not to squash 556 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: competition because that's what they need to be successful, right know. 557 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: They have to have that drive to want to beat 558 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: the next person, whether it's going into an office or 559 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: on a court, or on a stage or wherever you're 560 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: going to be, whatever genre of business and professionalism you're in, 561 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: you need that. You need that inner drive and competition 562 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: to be the. 563 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: Best and dactor, Lasille Oil, I want to ask you 564 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: since we've been talking about this mental health journey, and 565 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: I think today the newer generation is definitely a lot 566 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: more aware of their mental health and the space that 567 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: they need. I feel like things were a lot different. 568 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: It was more like teughing up. You know, man, do 569 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: what you got to do, and we try to make 570 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: sure that we don't show any weakness. But now it's 571 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: a little different, you know. So how do you think 572 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: the game has changed, and how do you think in general, 573 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: like that type of competition has changed as we're talking 574 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: about mental health on the court and also making sure 575 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: that people are good in that way too. 576 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: I think it's changed through the communication because the mindset 577 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: that we had a long time ago, it was, you know, 578 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: we held a lot of things inside. But now we're 579 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 4: able to open up, We're able to talk to other people, 580 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: We're able to learn from our experiences, and that has 581 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: helped change your whole mindset. And when I talk about 582 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 4: mental welfare, that was a place where a lot of 583 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: people were in where you depended on other people for 584 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: your own happiness. But the happiness that you experienced, it 585 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 4: comes from within you. So your mind gets a little stronger. 586 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: And we laugh when we think about talking to yourself, 587 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: but you have to talk to yourself and encourage yourself. 588 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: It helps you. So I think that today we're able 589 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: to just change that mindset and forget about how it 590 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: was before and think about how it is right now 591 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 4: and communication has become key. 592 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: Well, both of you ladies have accomplished so much, and 593 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: now this show is coming out July seventh, by the way, 594 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: on TV one. 595 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: So what else is on the bucket list for both 596 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: of you? 597 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: As we've been sitting here talking about everything that you've done, 598 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: what are some things still that you're like? 599 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Okay, next on the list? 600 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: Season two? Yes? Oh yeah, just to continue this. I 601 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: don't know what God has on the horizon for me 602 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: at this point because I'm learning now that I'm a 603 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: little older to be in the moment. You know, a 604 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: lot of times you talk about mental health, we just 605 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: don't stay in the moment, right what is the next thing? 606 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: And we let the world tell us that it's not enough? 607 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: And so this is great. I just want to continue 608 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: to improve the show, get more guests on it, you know, 609 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: diversify the guests as well, and just keep this moving 610 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: until its season is over. Okay, enjoy the season though, 611 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: good enough. 612 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: And for me, although I would like to see a 613 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: season two, I'm becoming more involved in community. Just move 614 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: to Atlanta and I want to become more involved my 615 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: family and I we raise money for nursing scholarships in 616 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: honor of our mother, So I want to continue to 617 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: do that. We have a fundraising event every year of 618 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 4: Faith and Fellowship lunching, so as long as we can, 619 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: we want to be able to build up the Odessa 620 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: Chambliss Quality of Life Fund. That's what our organization is called, 621 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: and we raise money for different schools, colleges, universities, and 622 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 4: I want to continue to do that and broaden that horizon. 623 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I love that, and you have the great platform 624 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: to do that, so we appreciate you. I love when 625 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: people are in the position to give back and they do. 626 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: You know, that's what it's all about. But thank you 627 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: guys both for joining me today. I'm really looking forward 628 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 2: to seeing the episodes I haven't seen yet based off 629 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: of what I've seen already, So I appreciate you for 630 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: the work you're doing it. I could see this turning 631 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: into more than a series, but maybe a whole movement. 632 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: Maybe this could play into, you know, the nonprofit. I 633 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: don't know, but I could see this becoming even more 634 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: because moms a lot of times and families need help, 635 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: and so you know, it's nice to see that you 636 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: guys are here to talk about that whole process. 637 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having us and giving us 638 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: this opportunity. Thank you, all right, we appreciate you. Yeah, 639 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: thank you. 640 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: All right, you guys, we are way up.