1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Day Baker podcast. Good morning, It's Tuesday, 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: the ninth of September. I'm Caroline Hepga in London. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: And I'm Stephen Caroline Paris, where Emmanuel Macro is running 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: out of options as he looks to appoint the seventh 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: prime minister of his presidency after the country's government collapses 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: once again. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: And in other news, Democrats release an alleged birthday note 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: they say Donald Trump sent to the disgrace financier Jeffrey Epstein. 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: Plus Power and politics, Britain's plan to become a green 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: energy superpower faces a growing right wing backlash. Let's start 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: with a round up of our top stories. France's President, 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Macoy is searching for a new prime minister after 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Francois Beiru lost a confidence vote in parliament. The outgoing 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: premier will present his government's resignation to the president later 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: this morning after failing to win support for his deficit 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: cutting plans. Bruno Rutaeo, who leads the center right Republicans 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Party and served as Interior minister in the Beiru government, 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: says the president must act swiftly. 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: And this ame for the problem now is that we 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: will first need a prime minister as soon as possible, 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: because we are heading into difficult days and France needs 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: a budget. 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Bruno Ruteo speaking there via a translator. The market reaction 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: has been muted, as investors had expected the downfall of 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: the government. Macro is now seeking a fifth prime minister 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: in less than two years. In a statement, the president 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: says he will appoint a new premier in the coming days. 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Norway's labor Prime Minister, Yunus gar Stor, has declared victory 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: in a national election after seeing off a surge of 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: support for the populist right. The country's center left minority 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: government one a second term in power, securing just over 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: half of all seats in the legislature. The anti immigration 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Progress Party secured its best result on record, with about 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: twenty four percent of public backing in Norway versus twenty 36 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: eight percent for the Prime Minister's party, in a campaign 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: that was dominated by debates about welfare, taxes on wealth 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: and Norway's oil fund investments in Israel. In the US House, 39 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Democrats have released an alleged birthday note they say Donald 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: Trump sent to the convicted p Dephile Jeffrey Epstein as 41 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: part of a book to celebrate his fiftieth birthday in 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: two thousand and three. The note includes the sign off, 43 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: may every day be another wonderful secret, complete with the 44 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: sketched outline of a woman's body. Trump has denied composing 45 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: the message or that the note existed, and has sued 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal's reporters, publisher, and founder after it 47 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: was initially reported into lie. Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson explains some 48 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: of the arguments about whether or not the letter is real. 49 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 4: You know, we don't know if he really wrote it, 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: but we do know that it was given to the 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: House Overside Committee under subpoena from the Epstein estate. They 52 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: had it in the birthday book, They turned it over 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 4: to Congress, and Democrats today released that letter. So there 54 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: would have to be a lot of jiu jitsu going 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: on for that letter to be manufactured. Also remember that 56 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: House Republicans on the committee have seen it as well. 57 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson speaking there. The release raises pressure on 58 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: the president over questions about his past interactions with the 59 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: late disgraced financier survivors of sexual abuse by Jeffrey Epstein 60 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: are calling on Congress to release all files related to 61 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: the case. US talks have been on a record breaking 62 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: run in recent months, but JP Morgan says that the 63 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: next move could sap investors risk appetite. The Lenders Trading 64 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: Desk believes a September interest rate cut could turn into 65 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: a quote sell the news event with investors pulling back. 66 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: In a separate warning, Goldbin Sachs CEO David Solomon said 67 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: that he's not convinced by the case for rapid rate cuts. 68 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: This doesn't feel to me like the policy rate is 69 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 5: extraordinarily restrictive at the moment when you look at risk appetite, 70 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 5: and so you know, risk appetite is definitely you know, 71 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 5: out on what i'd say is the more exuberant end 72 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 5: of the spectrum. 73 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: David Solomon's comments at a Berkleay's Financial Services conference. Meanwhile, 74 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: a top economist that Citadel has shared his thoughts on 75 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: the US economy, and Haloubide, the Hedge Funds head of 76 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: economic research for Fixed income and Macro, says the US 77 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: economy is on the good side of a quote fragile equilibrium, 78 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: but warned we are quote close to the edge. Now, 79 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: Rupert Murdoch and his children have settled litigation over the 80 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: trust which controls his media empire. Under the agreement, Murdoch's 81 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: eldest son, Lachlan will remain in charge of the company. 82 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Tiva Adebayo has more. 83 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 6: It's the family dynasty, which reportedly inspired hit TV series Succession, 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 6: but it seems the Murdochs have elected to keep the 85 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 6: drama on screen, settling on the future of their globe 86 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 6: spanning media empire. A new family company controlled by Lachlan 87 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 6: Murdoch will have a voting stake in Fox and News Corp, 88 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 6: whilst three of Murdoch's children will cease to be beneficiaries 89 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 6: of the trust instead, Bloomberg understands Prudence, Elizabeth and James 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 6: will each receive one point one billion dollars. The agreement 91 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 6: concludes a legal battle which started in twenty twenty three 92 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 6: when Rupert Murdoch first sought to change the family trust, 93 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 6: putting Lachlan in control. News Corp and Fox will sell 94 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 6: shares worth about one point four billion dollars on behalf 95 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 6: of the three children leaving the trust. In London TIAA 96 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 6: added by Bloomberg Radio. 97 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: Now European car makers, including Mercedes and Volkswagen, are railing 98 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: against EU plans to phase out new combustion engine cars 99 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: by twenty thirty five. The news comes as industry leaders 100 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: at this week's Munich Auto Show promoted their new electric vehicles. 101 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: Volkswagen CEO Oliver Bloom told Bloomberg the company is working 102 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: to expand its EV offering. 103 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 7: Yesterday, it was a fantastic day being able to present 104 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 7: our new electric urban family from Volkswagen, beside of a 105 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 7: lot of new technologies, and our ambition is to provide 106 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 7: technology for the people, and that's what we are doing 107 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 7: now with the entry level electric cars. We are market 108 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 7: leader with eighty twenty eight percent in the electric segment, 109 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 7: and these new products will give us a NASA. 110 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: Push Folksville, bargains Oliver Bloom. Speaking there, he also told 111 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: journalists that it would be unrealistic to expect to have 112 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: one hundred percent electric vehicles by twenty thirty five. His 113 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: words come ahead of a summit on Friday between the 114 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: European Commission, president of Silivandelion and heavyweights from the industry. 115 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: German charlece of Friedrich Mehert, whose party has been critical 116 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: of the phase out, is scheduled to speak at the 117 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: Munich Show later today to that on cars. Just lastly, 118 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: Barkley Ceocsven Katakrishnan has warned that a windfall tax on 119 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: banks here in the UK could hinder the government's push 120 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: to boost growth in the economy. But both you and 121 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: Potts has more now. 122 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 8: The Barclay CEO says that the roots of growth is 123 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 8: through investments and not through a bank tax. Speaking at 124 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 8: a Barclay's conference in New York, he also argued that 125 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 8: UK lenders already pay a higher rate than their peers 126 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 8: in the US and Europe. He warns that more tax 127 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 8: would damage a sector that employs ten percent of the population. 128 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 8: The intervention comes after a recent think tank report said 129 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 8: a higher bank levy could raise as much as thirty 130 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 8: two billion pounds over the next five years. In London, 131 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 8: I'm une parts of Bloomberg Radio. 132 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: And those are our top stories for you this morning. 133 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: Let's take you through the markets. Global stocks climbing for 134 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: a fifth day, Asian equities hire half of one percent 135 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: on the MSCI Asia Pacific Index. This is after a 136 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: surge in bets on US interest rates coming down. That 137 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: has also helped the S and P five hundred close 138 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: near another record high on Monday. Stop futures for the 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: US are also up, but USTOK fifty futures are down 140 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: a quarter of one percent, perhaps weighed down by the 141 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: political issues in France. Will be watching that French German 142 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: spread when things get going here in Europe. Later this morning, 143 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: TENNY US Treasury yels trading at sport four spot zero 144 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: four bloom mcdollar spot indexes down a tenth of one percent. 145 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: The euro is actually strengthening. Oil prices are up seven 146 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: tenths for Brent and WTI creed futures those aren't the 147 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: market now. In a moment, will be being you the 148 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: latest on the political chaos in France and also discuss 149 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: why Britain's dreams of becoming a green superpower could be 150 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: about to run into difficulties. Before that, though, another story 151 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: that caught my eye, and this was all about the 152 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: tube strike. London is flocking to lime and forest bikes 153 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: and scooters yesterday. They were parked all over the pavements 154 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: and spilling onto the roads in the city when I 155 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: left the office yesterday. But It was interesting that Lime 156 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: said that total trips during that four hour rush hour 157 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: commute period yesterday jump fifty eight percent, no surprise, but 158 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: people also did travel further and for longer. I just 159 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: say it's lucky the weather was fine. The tube strike 160 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: is going to affect the whole of the capital for 161 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: this week. Our empty union saying, you know, the dispute's 162 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: over pay and trying to cut back their working hours. 163 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: They say that TfL transport for London are being intransigent, 164 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: and I see arguments now grow, at least by some 165 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: newspaper columnists in favor of going fully driverless for London 166 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: underground tube trains. I mean, some of the tube trains 167 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: are automated, and we do have one driverless train in 168 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: the DLR, but actually it cost a lot of money 169 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: to try to transfer to driverless. Anyway, interesting argument. So 170 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: that's one story I've been keeping an eye. 171 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 9: Right. 172 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to France now, where President Emanu and Macon 173 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: Well accept the resignation of Prime Minister France. We're Bay 174 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: related today, but what next. Our own Stephen Carroll is 175 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: in Paris for US again today. You had a very 176 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: long day yesterday, Stephen, very interesting vote also lots of 177 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: speeches in Parliament. Bayreuth spoke at length about the challenges 178 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: of debt that France faces, but the result did seem 179 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: pretty inevitable, didn't it. 180 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, look, the situation for France. 181 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: Barberio hadn't really changed from the moment that he first 182 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: called this vote two weeks prior, versus the action when 183 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 3: the actual votes came in in the National Assembly last night. 184 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: He used his speech to MPs to make the same 185 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: warnings that he's been making for weeks or even years. 186 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: France is drowning in a sea of debt. He talked 187 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: about submitting to debt being like submitting to military force. 188 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: He did also address some of the alternatives that some 189 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: of the other parties have talked about in terms of 190 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: how to close the deficit. He mentioned the taxes on 191 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: the rich which the opposition have called for, saying that 192 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: calling for it for those that are calling for it 193 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: forget that France needs investors and if they raise taxes 194 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: people will simply leave. There was even a nod to 195 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: the UK's change to non dom rules, which he said 196 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: it had created the immediate effect of exploding property prices 197 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: in Milan, but Ultimately, though, his warnings of dire consequences 198 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: came to nothing. MPs voted as they said they would. 199 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: He lost by a significant margin. He is the first 200 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: prime minister to fall on a confidence vote in the 201 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: fifth French Republic since nineteen fifty eight. Another unhappy record 202 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: for a prime minister under Emmanuel Macrow, who is now 203 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: looking for the seventh prime minister of his presidency and 204 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: the fifth in two years. 205 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: Oh dear, who will be prime minister next then? In France? 206 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: Well, look, it's the president's prerogative to choose, and he 207 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: can pick anyone that he likes. Some of the names 208 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: that are being talked about now come from within the 209 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: outgoing cabinet, the Defense Minister Sebastian Laclu, the Labor Minister 210 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: Katherine Vaudran, the Justice Minister Geraldomanan. But it's difficult to 211 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: see how they could succeed where Barnier and Francoi Bayrou 212 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: failed in the last two governments, to try and build 213 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: some sort of working minority in the parliament to get 214 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: measures past if he looked outside of his allies. The 215 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: Socialist Party has said they're ready to govern and they 216 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: were quick to offer their services after the vote yesterday, 217 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: but that comes with conditions. They've proposed an alternative version 218 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: of the budget that had been put forward by franso Bayrou, 219 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: which involve a slower pace of spending cuts and measures 220 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: like a wealth tax that would prove controversial to some 221 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: bringing the Socialist some boards may also cause splits among 222 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: the coalition that Macron already has in place. The center 223 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: right Republicans said they won't take part in the government 224 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: that's led by the Socialist Party. 225 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 6: Now. 226 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: One name which has resurfaced which might satisfy some of 227 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: the demands as Bonar Kaznov. He's a former prime minister 228 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: under fransvoor Roland who distanced himself from the new generation 229 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: of Socialists. Macron considered him last December when he was 230 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: looking for a prime minister as well. 231 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 9: There's a question too as to when we'll know. 232 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: Macron can take essentially as long as he wants to 233 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: make this decision. I was comparing the statements from the 234 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: Elise last December and yesterday. In December, the statement said 235 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: that Emmanuel Macron would name a prime minister in the 236 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: coming days. They added a word to yesterday's statement which 237 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: is sort of translated in the imminent coming days. Last 238 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: time around it took nine days, so perhaps we can 239 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: hope that there might. 240 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 9: Be a decision made faster than that this time around. 241 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: Oh okay, side by side statement comparisons. I mean, you know, 242 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: that just shows you how we are kind of rinse 243 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: and repeating this story in France. Surely the pressure on 244 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Immanue and Macon is going to ratchet up even further. 245 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: I mean there have been calls for his resignation. 246 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 9: Yeah. 247 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 3: Indeed, the far left and the far right immediately repeated 248 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: their calls for Emmanual Macron to go after the confidence 249 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: vote collapse. The government of Francois Biroumanual Macron's term that 250 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: runs until twenty twenty seven. He's given no indication that 251 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: he plans to resign, and there's really no way to 252 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: get rid of him as president, despite those calls from 253 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: the significant. 254 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 9: Blocks in the Parliament. 255 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: It's worth though, remembering the space the public having all 256 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: of this as well. There are two major protests planned 257 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: in France. One is tomorrow, which is a movement that's 258 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: been largely organized on social media called Let's Block Everything, 259 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: and then a more formal demonstration organized by the unions, 260 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: which is happening next week. Both are expected to cause 261 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: major disruption to public services and transport. Their warnings of 262 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: course that there could also be issues around you know, 263 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: violence on the streets as well. That's something that some 264 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: people are definitely worried about here too. Emmanuel Macron, for 265 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: his part, will want to try and have an administration 266 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: in place as soon possible to deal with some of 267 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: those pressing issues, not least to get on with work 268 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: on the budget as well. But there's politics involved in 269 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: all of this as well, because we have to think 270 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: about how the next presidential election will play out. Emanuel 271 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: Macro will be thinking about who could replace him, who 272 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: could take his place from a centrist candidate for that too, 273 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: So the decisions that he makes now have an impact 274 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: on that as well. Just think about Mary Leapenn and 275 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: this Too Far Right, a President of the leader of 276 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: their group in the National Assembly. She's currently barred from 277 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: running for election after being found guilty of misuse of 278 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: EU funds in a trial. Her appeal will be heard 279 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: early next year, so we'll see whether or not she 280 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: could be eligible by twenty twenty seven, but an early 281 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: election would potentially rule her out otherwise, I say for 282 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: the moment, no sign that Emmanuel Macro is going to 283 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: respond to any of those calls for his resignation. 284 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Stephen, thank you so much for being with us. Life 285 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: on Paris Blomberg's Stephen Cowell. Then on the latest what 286 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: we're expecting in France. Thank you so much for being 287 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: with us this morning. Stay with us. More from Bloomberg 288 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: Day BAQUB coming up after this. I want to turn 289 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: our attention to the UK now. The Labor government's pledge 290 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: to achieve a clean power grid by twenty thirty. Kirstarmer's 291 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: promise now faces a crucial economic test with a significant 292 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: offshore wind subsidy auction, but also growing political challenges too. 293 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: Joining me is Bloomberg's energy and climate change reporter Will Mathis. 294 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: Well good to speak to you. I thought your piece 295 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: when I met it this morning was just very interesting. 296 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: Firstly though the basics, I mean, how important was this 297 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: political promise, this campaign promise for clean power and actually 298 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: what does it involve? 299 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, this was one of the key promises to during 300 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 10: the campaign for the Labor Party and it would involve, 301 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 10: you know, our transformation of the country power grid in 302 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 10: a way that no other country in the world has 303 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 10: done yet, so it would really be a test case 304 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 10: whether it's feasible to do the kind of deep de 305 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 10: carbonization of the power grid that many countries say they 306 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 10: would like to do to reach their clichnicals, but none 307 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 10: really have even a plan to do it. So the 308 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 10: UK has come up with a plan and is trying 309 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 10: to achieve it. 310 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 2: Okay, how does the government then deliver on this, because 311 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: it's a promise to both cut emissions and also to 312 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: cut consumers energy costs. 313 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, those were two related promises. And you know, five 314 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 10: years ago it was easy to say that you could 315 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 10: increase renewable power and cut costs because wind power in particular, 316 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 10: which is what the UK really needs because you know 317 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 10: solar you know you're not going to get solar power 318 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 10: in the winter when people need the most electricity, and 319 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 10: or used to be getting cheaper and cheaper, but during 320 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 10: the pandemic supply chain constraints that inflation just led costs 321 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 10: to increase so much and that really hasn't changed the 322 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 10: price of building a offshore wind farm. It just keeps 323 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 10: getting more expensive. And so the idea now that you 324 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 10: can cut costs and cut emissions from the power system 325 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 10: by using offshore wind is looking a bit outdated and 326 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 10: it doesn't really seem like the government has reckoned with that. 327 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 10: And what they are saying now more and more is 328 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 10: that this is, you know, protects us from the risk 329 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 10: that gas prices could go up again like they did 330 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 10: a few years ago. And that's true. But it's also 331 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 10: true that if gas prices come down, then the UK 332 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 10: is looking increasingly expensive. 333 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: That's interesting and also, as you say, it's looking like 334 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: quite a vintage pledge because the political headwinds have shifted 335 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: their signific pressure to reverse course on green policies, I 336 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: mean from President Trump, other politicians, some corporates are also 337 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: changing their stance now, aren't they. 338 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. I mean when Bresa May passed an 339 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 10: amendment that enshrined the UK's net zero pledge into law, 340 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 10: there was no dissent, you know, it passed with a 341 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 10: parliamentary procedure that doesn't require an actual vote, and it's 342 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 10: really impossible to think that that would happen today. You 343 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 10: have the Conservative Party criticizing net zero. You know, Nigel 344 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 10: Farage and his Reform Party, which are the leading the 345 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 10: polls today, are obviously very anti net zero or even 346 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 10: have talked about, you know, getting rid of these contracts 347 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 10: that have underpinned the drive for decarbonization and that political 348 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 10: consensus that exists in the UK for quite a long 349 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 10: time that you know the country needs to do more 350 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 10: and more to yes, clibate change has really cracked, and 351 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 10: we're going to see what that means for the actual 352 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 10: trajectory of policy of this country. 353 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 354 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 355 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 356 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 357 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 358 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 359 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 360 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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