Speaker 1: So it's around six point thirty and I'm just getting
Speaker 1: ready to start my day. I'm going to have two
Speaker 1: very excited dogs who are ready to go outside and
Speaker 1: see what other kind of animals may have come through
Speaker 1: our property overnight. Anything from something big like bears and elk,
Speaker 1: to something small like a fox or even a squirrel.
Speaker 1: This morning, I'm going to go ahead and text my
Speaker 1: son and just tell them to have a great day.
Speaker 1: About the time the dogs come back in, I know
Speaker 1: that my daughter's going to give me a call. I'm
Speaker 1: really lucky that she calls me every morning on our
Speaker 1: way to work. And as soon as all that's done,
Speaker 1: then I'm going to jump in and start working and
Speaker 1: see what the day brings. This is finally a show
Speaker 1: about an abortion provider for over twenty five years. Jamie
Speaker 1: Rich is a nurse with the Satanic Temple's first ever
Speaker 1: telehealth abortion clinic.
Speaker 2: My name is Jamie.
Speaker 1: I am an OBGYN nurse practitioner. I'm lucky enough that
Speaker 1: I get to work from home in northwestern Colorado and
Speaker 1: I provide telehealth services to people in New Mexico. I
Speaker 1: can remember at four or five someone asking me what
Speaker 1: do you want to be when you grow up. And
Speaker 1: my answer has always been I want to be a nurse.
Speaker 1: It never changed, it never wavered. I never wanted to
Speaker 1: be a doctor. I feel like the philosophy of care
Speaker 1: is just a little bit different. Nursing looks more at
Speaker 1: the holistic patient, not just oh, the person who has
Speaker 1: a breast slump or the person who needs surgery. But
Speaker 1: there are many other layers to a person, from their
Speaker 1: mental health, to their socioeconomics, to possibly their religious or
Speaker 1: spiritual beliefs, what's going on in the home that is
Speaker 1: impacting the way that they're able to take care of themselves,
Speaker 1: and so on, and so different philosophy of care that
Speaker 1: just worked better with my beliefs and how I wanted
Speaker 1: to take care of people. I grew up in kind
Speaker 1: of a conservativeative family. My dad was Catholic, my mom
Speaker 1: was not Catholic, but was pretty religious. And you know,
Speaker 1: like birth control and premarital sex, you don't talk about
Speaker 1: that because that doesn't happen until you're older and married,
Speaker 1: and you don't worry about that. And so I think
Speaker 1: a little bit was that normal kind of teenage rebellion.
Speaker 1: I'm going to figure out who I am. I'm going
Speaker 1: to figure out what my beliefs are and where I
Speaker 1: want to go and what I want to do. And
Speaker 1: to my parents' credit, they were like, you know what,
Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do, that's what you
Speaker 1: want to do, that is great. And so my husband,
Speaker 1: right when I graduated from college, we got married, we
Speaker 1: were still married, was a photojournalist. He stayed here in
Speaker 1: Colorado and I went to Los Angeles, moved up here
Speaker 1: to where I am now, and started working for Planned Parenthood.
Speaker 1: The community is supportive, or if they're not supportive, then
Speaker 1: it's basically whatever you know, don't you do what you
Speaker 1: want to do. I'm not going to interfere, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to support it either. So I left Plant
Speaker 1: Parenthood a little over a year ago. Before I left
Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood, though, I had been approached by some folks
Speaker 1: who were starting TST Health, which is the telehealth that
Speaker 1: I'm working for now, to provide abortion services to folks
Speaker 1: in New Mexico. TST Health is the Satanic Temple Health,
Speaker 1: which then provides the care to the Samuel Alito's Mother's
Speaker 1: abortion clinic.
Speaker 3: So get your abortion today in the name of Samuel
Speaker 3: Alito's Mom.
Speaker 1: You can find out more on our website. And you know,
Speaker 1: Alito obviously on the Supreme Court definitely not pro choice,
Speaker 1: definitely very conservative, has voted against religious and reproductive rights.
Speaker 1: And I think it is intentionally a little bit provocative
Speaker 1: to get people talking about it and to get people
Speaker 1: to hopefully do some research, find out what is and
Speaker 1: what it isn't, and be able to make decisions again
Speaker 1: based on facts. The telehealth laws with the New Mexico
Speaker 1: are a little easier to manage. New Mexico was kind
Speaker 1: of a safe haven. You know, they're surrounded by Arizona
Speaker 1: and Texas and pretty close to Oklahoma and all of
Speaker 1: those states that are not friendly to women or abortion services,
Speaker 1: and so New Mexico kind of made sense in terms
Speaker 1: of where we could provide services and hopefully get some
Speaker 1: people who didn't have any other option to get into
Speaker 1: New Mexico to be able to access care. There's been
Speaker 1: a few articles in the paper against having abortion services
Speaker 1: and against TST health, but that also tells people where
Speaker 1: to access care as well. New Mexico, where we're providing service,
Speaker 1: does not have abortion restrictions, and so we're not fighting
Speaker 1: that fight here. But the Satanic Temple is in process
Speaker 1: of legally trying to get care provided in some other
Speaker 1: states where it is not so friendly. So TST Health
Speaker 1: is a component of TST, which is the Satanic Temple.
Speaker 1: At this point, it's a start, it's less than a
Speaker 1: year old. We actually have only been seeing patients since
Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: In some of these.
Speaker 1: States that are very unfriendly or who have essentially banned abortion,
Speaker 1: they are using religion, especially Christianity religion to state that
Speaker 1: this is something that goes against God and should not happen.
Speaker 1: And so what TST the Satanic Temple is doing is saying,
Speaker 1: you know that this is these are our religious tenets
Speaker 1: and our religious beliefs, and by you restricting or outright
Speaker 1: banning abortion, is that you are infringing upon my religious convictions.
Speaker 1: The mission of the Satanic Temple is to encourage benevolence
Speaker 1: and empathy, you know, to really advocate for practical, common sense,
Speaker 1: factual based information really really important for this group. They
Speaker 1: oppose injustice like taking away rights for women who want
Speaker 1: to have abortion as part of their healthcare, trans rights,
Speaker 1: LGBTQ rights, those kind of things, and so that's really
Speaker 1: the overarching kind of mission, statement of the Satanic Temple,
Speaker 1: and making sure that decisions that are being made, whether
Speaker 1: that's at a local government level or at the upper
Speaker 1: levels of the United States government, that those decisions are
Speaker 1: based on facts and based on science and not based
Speaker 1: on a religion that is not based in science or
Speaker 1: based in facts, and is you know, and excludes certain
Speaker 1: people because for whatever reason. The fundamental tenets of the
Speaker 1: Satanic Temples, so there are seven of them. The ones
Speaker 1: that we tend to use the most for an abortion
Speaker 1: ritual or for folks who are interested in having some
Speaker 1: type of a ritual with their procedure is that one's
Speaker 1: body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone, bodily autonomy,
Speaker 1: beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. So,
Speaker 1: in other words, we are providing care that is based
Speaker 1: on the best practices, on scientific evidence on twenty five
Speaker 1: plus years in the United States more than that in
Speaker 1: other countries, on how this is safe and effective. So
Speaker 1: those are the two that we tend to use the most.
Speaker 1: The tenants also talk a little bit about compassion and
Speaker 1: empathy towards people, trying to understand people, not judging struggle
Speaker 1: for justice, you know, and not having certain groups marginalized.
Speaker 1: Freedom of others should be respected. In other words, I
Speaker 1: may believe this, you may believe that doesn't make one
Speaker 1: of us more right on the other person wrong or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but that you know, as people, we
Speaker 1: all have different beliefs and different views, and that that
Speaker 1: should be celebrated. We talked about people are fallible. You know,
Speaker 1: if you make a mistake, then you should once you
Speaker 1: recognize that, own up to your mistakes, move forward, try
Speaker 1: not to do that again again, you know, get the
Speaker 1: information that you need to be able to move forward
Speaker 1: and make better decisions. And then the last one just
Speaker 1: talks about all of these tenets are used kind of
Speaker 1: as an overarching principle. It's as to inspire nobility and
Speaker 1: action and thought. And I think that that's really great
Speaker 1: way of saying that to be compassionate and to continue
Speaker 1: to learn and to continue to grow, and to continue
Speaker 1: to help provide justice to those groups that may be marginalized,
Speaker 1: that we should be looking at the written and spoken
Speaker 1: word and using all of these tenets to be kinder,
Speaker 1: gentler and learn more and continue to move forward in
Speaker 1: this world. Some people are actually member active ongoing members
Speaker 1: of the Satanic Temple, or they have a friend who
Speaker 1: is who tells them about it. There are so many
Speaker 1: things that the Satanic Temple does. It's a group of
Speaker 1: folks who believe in facts, and believe in science, and
Speaker 1: believe in bodily autonomy, who are getting together and trying
Speaker 1: to make a difference in their communities. I think when
Speaker 1: when people hear the Satanic Temple, they're thinking, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: they're worshiping Satan. I tell you you really cannot make
Speaker 1: this stuff up.
Speaker 3: This group pledges to provide quote religious medication, abortion care,
Speaker 3: and not how they identify themselves as not believe in
Speaker 3: a literal Satan, but when you associate yourself with Satan
Speaker 3: at all, Satan is the father of lies, So how
Speaker 3: are we supposed to believe that that's even true? Gather
Speaker 3: together to stand as one unified voice against this demonic
Speaker 3: spirit that is trying to invade.
Speaker 1: Our petitioning for access to abortion, and what they say
Speaker 1: is to quote, continue performing voluntary abortions as part of
Speaker 1: its religious rituals. And to me, that is a huge ordeal.
Speaker 1: You know that they're sacrificing and all of these horrible
Speaker 1: things that you hear about with Satan worship, and that's
Speaker 1: not what this is at all. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: some people probably would be concerned with the name the
Speaker 1: Satanic Temple, although this health clinic part of it is
Speaker 1: TST Health, which I think sometimes people don't know what
Speaker 1: it is until they've actually gotten into the paperwork. But
Speaker 1: once they get in the paperwork, I think they realize that,
Speaker 1: you know, this is a really professional organization. We are
Speaker 1: dedicated to providing the highest standard of care that you know,
Speaker 1: everything that we're asking is very clear and has a
Speaker 1: purpose and is very medically focused. They can always ask
Speaker 1: as many questions as they'd like to about our training
Speaker 1: and you know how everything got started, and you know
Speaker 1: what we're doing for quality control. And I haven't had
Speaker 1: anybody who made an appointment who has said this is
Speaker 1: kind of strange or whatever. It's mainly thanks so much
Speaker 1: for being available. This is you know, you made this
Speaker 1: much easier for me and I can do this on
Speaker 1: my own time, and it's been a great service. I
Speaker 1: have a daughter and a son. My daughter is a
Speaker 1: high school English teacher, also in a small town in Colorado.
Speaker 1: So this is really funny. Actually it's a funny story.
Speaker 1: So my daughter was in college and she did a
Speaker 1: semester abroad, and it was the semester you know that.
Speaker 1: It was during the time when Trump got elected, and
Speaker 1: I can remember a few days before the election, I
Speaker 1: said to her, if Trump gets elected, you're going to
Speaker 1: have to stay where you are, and she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: and kind of laughed it off. And then of course
Speaker 1: he got elected, and so she called me and she
Speaker 1: was crying and she's like, I can't believe this happened.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: I don't want to stay here. I really want to
Speaker 1: come home. And I'm part of the Satanic Temple too.
Speaker 1: I joined because, you know, I just I just thought
Speaker 1: it was a good thing to do. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: good for you. That's great. I don't know anything about it,
Speaker 1: but you know, that's wonderful.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: She goes, I don't really do anything because there's nothing
Speaker 1: here that I can do with them, but I just
Speaker 1: wanted to do that as a protest. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's great, that's fine. I think it's really funny. When
Speaker 1: she was in middle school, the school approached me and
Speaker 1: asked if I would teach their sex ed class, and
Speaker 1: I was like, sure, absolutely, And so my daughter actually
Speaker 1: sat down and did all the flashcards and all of
Speaker 1: the handouts for the sex said class for her middle
Speaker 1: school class. And then my son I also did his
Speaker 1: sex said class and he was great with it, and
Speaker 1: you know, made sure he participated to make his friends participate.
Speaker 1: You would look at him and just you know, make
Speaker 1: a judgment of looks pretty concernedative. You know, he's kind
Speaker 1: of a I don't know, like a cowboy kind of rancher,
Speaker 1: mechanic kind of looking kid, and that's that's what he
Speaker 1: does for his full time work.
Speaker 2: But he's probably the most liberal of all of us.
Speaker 1: There were a few times that it was probably uncomfortable
Speaker 1: for them, you know, that they had friends or family
Speaker 1: who weren't real keen. You know, it was not a
Speaker 1: secret where I worked and what I did that weren't
Speaker 1: too keen on that, but they they handled it well.
Speaker 1: Funny story, I was going into work and I had
Speaker 1: my daughter with me, who at the time was in college,
Speaker 1: so she wasn't little. But even then we have talked
Speaker 1: about this from the get go with both both my children.
Speaker 2: But my daughter was.
Speaker 1: With me and the protester yelled that the angel of
Speaker 1: death was behind me and that my daughter was going
Speaker 1: to suffer because of it, and it just we both
Speaker 1: looked at each other, my daughter and I and we
Speaker 1: both walked in chase.
Speaker 2: You know, we not engage with people like that.
Speaker 1: And we both walked in and we said, good, we
Speaker 1: are going to you know, She's like, Mom, You're going
Speaker 1: to continue doing what you do and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: i am. She goes me too, you know, I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue to be you know, outspoken and an advocate
Speaker 1: for whoever needs me with this work. I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, I know that people who are our anti
Speaker 1: choice really do say, you know, how do you live
Speaker 1: with yourself? How can you do this? And I guess
Speaker 1: my response to that is how can I not?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: Again, is essential health care. This is providing a very
Speaker 1: safe service to folks who need it for whatever the
Speaker 1: reason is, and again, no different than anything else. And
Speaker 1: so I couldn't live with myself if I didn't provide
Speaker 1: the care that I feel is appropriate and necessary for
Speaker 1: the people I see. TST Health is not a temple
Speaker 1: or a gathering place for folks who have the beliefs
Speaker 1: of the Satanic temple. However, we do incorporate those tenants
Speaker 1: with the patients that we see to whatever extent that
Speaker 1: they would like to go through any type of a
Speaker 1: ritual with their abortion care. I'm going to read what
Speaker 1: the TST Health site says about the abortion ritual so
Speaker 1: it serves as a protective right. Its purpose is to
Speaker 1: cast off unwanted feelings that a patient may be experiencing
Speaker 1: due to choosing to have a legal and medically safe abortion.
Speaker 1: The ritual is designed to alleviate stressors and empower the
Speaker 1: patient to be guided by the Satanic Temple's third and
Speaker 1: fifth tenants when pursuing their decision. The ritual serves to
Speaker 1: assist in affirming their decision and to ward off the
Speaker 1: effects of unjust persecution which can cause one to stray
Speaker 1: from the paths of scientific reasoning and free will. And
Speaker 1: those third and fifth tenants. One of those is bodily autonomy.
Speaker 1: The other, the fifth one is talks about the scientific
Speaker 1: and best practices and utilizing the best knowledge that we
Speaker 1: have or care. Some folks want to participate in some
Speaker 1: type of a ritual, even if it's I have chosen
Speaker 1: to do this. This is right for me, this is
Speaker 1: right for my body. I am firm and clear in
Speaker 1: my decision. It could be as simple as that, which
Speaker 1: we do want everyone to be able to verbalize to
Speaker 1: us that this is their decision that they want, that
Speaker 1: they're not being coerced in any way. Or it could
Speaker 1: be that they may actually take one of the seven
Speaker 1: tenants from the Satanic Temple and actually say those out
Speaker 1: loud prior to taking their medication or when they take
Speaker 1: their medication. So the patient that we're seeing today, we
Speaker 1: ask if she would be willing to come onto the
Speaker 1: podcast just so that everyone can kind of hear the process,
Speaker 1: the consent process, how we explain everything to the patient,
Speaker 1: my part of the visit, the provider part of the visit,
Speaker 1: and she said that she's more than willing to do that.
Speaker 1: So we just got a message from our support person
Speaker 1: just that the patient has joined and so we are
Speaker 1: going to join the call as well.
Speaker 2: It's a video call.
Speaker 1: Perfect get started.
Speaker 4: I'll just tell you a little bit about me, so Jessica,
Speaker 4: I will be going over the process with you in
Speaker 4: a little bit about the medications, what to expect and
Speaker 4: all of that. I do go over quite a bit
Speaker 4: of information, so I at any point you need me
Speaker 4: to stop or repeat myself, just let me know and
Speaker 4: the medical isms.
Speaker 1: That you filed out. The way the telehealth works is
Speaker 1: that they can fill out the paperwork online. Wherever they
Speaker 1: are doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: We get it, no big deal.
Speaker 1: When they do their telehealth visit with me, which is
Speaker 1: a video visit kind of face to face, we each
Speaker 1: get to see each other and talk to each other
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully get a little bit of a connection.
Speaker 1: They need to physically be in New Mexico, whether that's
Speaker 1: one foot over the line from Texas or wherever. They
Speaker 1: just have to physically be in New Mexico. Some patients
Speaker 1: really stick in your mind because they had to travel
Speaker 1: two thousand miles and you know, they had to get childcare.
Speaker 1: And many of them have traveled, but a lot of
Speaker 1: them we have seen have actually been in New Mexico
Speaker 1: and they're in small, little towns. The reason I was
Speaker 1: really excited to work with TST Health is that through
Speaker 1: their membership and through donors, the only cost to the
Speaker 1: patients who are accessing is the cost of the medication,
Speaker 1: which is about eighty dollars. Other places, it's anywhere from
Speaker 1: six hundred to twelve hundred dollars for a medication abortion.
Speaker 1: And so especially for folks who maybe need to travel,
Speaker 1: folks who are in some of these really tiny towns
Speaker 1: in New Mexico that socioeconomically are not stellar, this is
Speaker 1: a really affordable, great way to access abortion care if
Speaker 1: they need that service.
Speaker 4: Medication, and we send you to pregnancy tests.
Speaker 1: So the first.
Speaker 4: Medication that you will be taking, it's called if a
Speaker 4: persona is just one pill.
Speaker 1: I think we lost her. Hey, Jess, I think we will.
Speaker 1: I think we did. There you go. Can you hear me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can hear you.
Speaker 4: Okay, perfect, thank you technology? Alrighty, So so that you take.
Speaker 1: So medication abortion is safe and effective for someone who
Speaker 1: is eleven weeks pregnant or less, someone who maybe had
Speaker 1: a wanted pregnancy and for whatever reason, it's not a
Speaker 1: normal pregnancy. We don't tend to find that out until
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes fifteen, sixteen, even twenty weeks into pregnancy.
Speaker 1: And so that the person who's in that situation would
Speaker 1: have to have a surgical or an in office abortion
Speaker 1: procedure determinate a pregnancy that is abnormal. The prescriptions for
Speaker 1: the abortion pill and for the other medications that we
Speaker 1: prescribe along with that go through a mail order pharmacy,
Speaker 1: and so if they're in New Mexico, it can come
Speaker 1: to their house, it can go to a PO box,
Speaker 1: it can go.
Speaker 2: Wherever they needed to do.
Speaker 1: If they don't live in New Mexico, they can either
Speaker 1: wait for that package because we can overnight it, or
Speaker 1: they can do mail forwarding from a physical address and
Speaker 1: then it'll forward it to their home. The reason that
Speaker 1: we do the mail order is that most pharmacies do
Speaker 1: not carry the medications for medication abortion. There are two
Speaker 1: main medications. One is called mifipristone are you for eighty six?
Speaker 1: The French abortion pill. Those are all names that have
Speaker 1: been used, and when it was first approved for use
Speaker 1: in the United States back in two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: there were some very strict guidelines in that as a provider,
Speaker 1: I had to contract with the manufacturer. They had to
Speaker 1: verify that I really knew what I was doing and
Speaker 1: that I knew how to prescribe it, knew how to
Speaker 1: take care of it, and I gave the patient all
Speaker 1: the right stuff and I could take care of them.
Speaker 1: And as we have found, you know, because it was
Speaker 1: it had been legal in European Union for much longer
Speaker 1: than that, we.
Speaker 2: Had all their safety data, we had all this.
Speaker 1: Data from the United States as well, and we realized, wow,
Speaker 1: it is pretty safe. And so even though I'm still
Speaker 1: contracted with the manufacturer to say that I can prescribe it,
Speaker 1: most pharmacies do not carry it. It's crazy that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy to have to jump through all these
Speaker 1: hoops for a medication that is super safe and should
Speaker 1: be available when someone needs it. You kind of want
Speaker 1: to be like, why can't you understand how important this is?
Speaker 1: And just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you should take that access away from someone else. You know,
Speaker 1: I may not believe in I don't know having a
Speaker 1: root canal, but I would never take that away from
Speaker 1: someone else. It just astounds me that still in this
Speaker 1: day and age, we are taking things away from a
Speaker 1: certain group of people, whether that's you know, people of color,
Speaker 1: whether that's people who you know are assigned female at
Speaker 1: birth who can get pregnant and we're taking their abortion
Speaker 1: access or their birth control access or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm kind of dumbfounded by it all. I
Speaker 1: try not to get in arguments about it because I
Speaker 1: feel like if someone is that has those beliefs so
Speaker 1: entrenched that they're not willing to listen. Just like I'm
Speaker 1: willing to listen as long as what you're telling me
Speaker 1: is factual and again based on not just feelings but
Speaker 1: on actual facts and what's going on, I'm willing to listen.
Speaker 1: But if someone is so entrenched in it's wrong because
Speaker 1: you know, the Bible says it's wrong or whatever, then
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get in an argument. And so
Speaker 1: there are some people I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: it with. You know that I know what their beliefs are,
Speaker 1: and so we just we won't talk about it, or
Speaker 1: you know, like in large family gatherings, I may say, okay,
Speaker 1: everyone listen, we are not talking about these five things.
Speaker 1: You can talk about anything else you want, not those
Speaker 1: five things, because it doesn't do any good to argue.
Speaker 4: Information that you'll need once you receive the medications and
Speaker 4: once you start taking them.
Speaker 1: Okay, so to make sure that you do have them. Yeah, Hi, Alicia,
Speaker 1: my name's Jamie. I'm one of the nurse practitioners with
Speaker 1: TST Health. How are you. I'm good, Thank you. So,
Speaker 1: once you receive your medicine, you just want to decide
Speaker 1: when you want to take it.
Speaker 2: I know just told you.
Speaker 1: The first medicine you're going to take is the mifipristone
Speaker 1: that stops the pregnancy from developing any farther without any
Speaker 1: major side effects or problems at all. And then, since
Speaker 1: you're going to be taking your other medicine buckley, which
Speaker 1: is in between your cheek and your gum, you're going
Speaker 1: to wait twenty four to forty eight hours after you
Speaker 1: take that first medicine to finish this process with the
Speaker 1: medication abortion. So whenever that timing works out best for you,
Speaker 1: when you're ready to take your second set of medicines,
Speaker 1: you're gonna first take your nausea pill, which is called
Speaker 1: on danceatron or zofran. It dissolves on your tongue. You're
Speaker 1: gonna take that. Then you're gonna take one of your
Speaker 1: prescription ibuprofen pills, and you're gonna wait thirty minutes let
Speaker 1: those medicines get in your system and start working. The
Speaker 1: next thing that you're gonna take then is you're gonna
Speaker 1: take your four mesa prostal pills. You're gonna put two
Speaker 1: here and two here in between your cheek and your
Speaker 1: gum and you're gonna leave them there for thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: swallow down whatever's left, and then the process will get started.
Speaker 1: It usually starts fairly quickly after you swallow those down.
Speaker 1: So that's why I want you to take that other
Speaker 1: medicine before you take your mesa prostal pills. Okay, So
Speaker 1: most people feel better within twelve hours. You should definitely
Speaker 1: feel better within twenty four hours. If you don't, or
Speaker 1: if at any point you're worried or concerned, that's when
Speaker 1: you want to call our on call nurse. As Jess said,
Speaker 1: we do have somebody who's on call twenty four hours
Speaker 1: a day, seven days a week. So if you have questions,
Speaker 1: that's when you want to give us a call. We
Speaker 1: are here to support you kind of before, during, and after,
Speaker 1: so make sure if you need us let us know.
Speaker 4: Okay, just confirming that you're okay doing these standards should be.
Speaker 1: There's such a wide range of folks who access abortion care,
Speaker 1: whether that's through TST Health or anywhere else for that matter.
Speaker 1: And yes, there are the teenagers who you know got
Speaker 1: pregnant accidentally, didn't know or didn't care about birth NIRL whatever.
Speaker 1: All the way up to you know, the fifty one
Speaker 1: year old woman who thought she was going through menopause
Speaker 1: and oh crud, and I'm now pregnant and my children
Speaker 1: are already grown, or I never wanted to have children
Speaker 1: in the first place, or whatever the situation is. Through
Speaker 1: TST health, we don't see anyone who is under seventeen,
Speaker 1: partially just because of you know, some minor abuse reporting
Speaker 1: in those kind of things. So we do see some
Speaker 1: older teenagers. That's been a very very small percentage of
Speaker 1: who we seen. I see a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are in their twenties, mid to late twenties. We see
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are in their late thirties,
Speaker 1: and we've even seen a few people who are in
Speaker 1: their mid to late forties. And so I can't say
Speaker 1: that there's one demographic of who we see because we
Speaker 1: have seen the entire gamut of folks. Some patients do
Speaker 1: stand out. I was so proud of this young woman
Speaker 1: who I didn't even know, but she was in college
Speaker 1: unintentionally pregnant. She had all of these plans for her future,
Speaker 1: which she was able to share some with me, and
Speaker 1: she's probably going to be running the world someday, and
Speaker 1: pregnancy did not come into her plan, and so she
Speaker 1: filled out her paperwork. She wanted to talk about birth control.
Speaker 1: She was concerned about timing because she needed some she
Speaker 1: lived in the dorm. She needed a time when her
Speaker 1: roommate wasn't there and she had some privacy. So we
Speaker 1: worked around her schedule. And that's the other beauty about
Speaker 1: TST health is that we can work around somebody's schedule.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know this was.
Speaker 1: My roommate has a class from six to nine pm
Speaker 1: Mountain time.
Speaker 2: Can you please? Can we please?
Speaker 1: I'm like, absolutely, what time works for you. We went
Speaker 1: through the whole process. She had downloaded all of re forms,
Speaker 1: she had all of these questions. We got all of
Speaker 1: those questions answered. You know, she was firm and clear
Speaker 1: in her decision and didn't have family that she could
Speaker 1: turn to because of their beliefs. But her partner was
Speaker 1: supportive and she had a friend who was supportive and
Speaker 1: had someone to help her kind of go through this process.
Speaker 1: And it was just it was wonderful to see this
Speaker 1: person is taking charge of their life. They know what
Speaker 1: they need, they've gotten the facts, they know how to
Speaker 1: take care of themselves. They reached out and they got
Speaker 1: the care that they needed. We were able to connect
Speaker 1: and do that and she can have children at the
Speaker 1: time of her choosing. You know, we see people at
Speaker 1: some of their worst moments and to be able to
Speaker 1: say I hear you, and it's okay, and I can
Speaker 1: help you, and let's talk about this to when maybe
Speaker 1: somebody else in their lives doesn't want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: or they didn't get any support, or they didn't nowhere
Speaker 1: else to go, and it's it's just it's a wonderful career.
Speaker 4: Perfect, Okay, great, Well.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, really appreciate it. Take care of yourself,
Speaker 1: and again, please reach out if you need us, because
Speaker 1: that's what we're here for.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I just want to say, this
Speaker 1: is a great organization. You guys are doing great things
Speaker 1: for people. Well, thank you, Thank you guys very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And like I said, take care of yourself and please
Speaker 1: let us know if you need anything from us.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: All right, bye, bye bye. There's no way that I
Speaker 1: could do the work that I'm doing without the support
Speaker 1: of my family, you know, not only my partner of
Speaker 1: thirty five years, but you know, my kids as well,
Speaker 1: who have their own set of beliefs and values, and
Speaker 1: everyone is just so supportive and has enabled me to
Speaker 1: do what I do, and for that, I'm really grateful.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of people who are looking
Speaker 1: at a nursing career or a nurse practitioner career, or
Speaker 1: you know, want to go into sexual and reproductive health,
Speaker 1: or even specifically when I go into abortion care. And
Speaker 1: it's been the biggest honor and privilege to do what
Speaker 1: I do, and I wouldn't change a thing, and it's
Speaker 1: so awesome, hard but awesome. Yes, I am tearing up
Speaker 1: because it's just it's the best thing ever. As I'm
Speaker 1: finishing up my workday, I just kind of review and
Speaker 1: make sure that everything that was on my to do
Speaker 1: list today got done, or if it didn't, I just
Speaker 1: move it over to tomorrow. I turn out the light
Speaker 1: and leave my little office here in my house, and
Speaker 1: once I'm in the living room, I usually pour a
Speaker 1: drink and touch base and connect with my partner. Okay, puppies,
Speaker 1: let's go outside.
Speaker 2: It's about nine thirty and I'm getting ready.
Speaker 1: To go to bed. I usually let the dogs out
Speaker 1: for one last little romp around the yard, good night,