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Speaker 1: swallow down whatever's left, and then the process will get started.

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Speaker 1: It usually starts fairly quickly after you swallow those down.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I want you to take that other

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Speaker 1: medicine before you take your mesa prostal pills. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: most people feel better within twelve hours. You should definitely

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Speaker 1: feel better within twenty four hours. If you don't, or

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Speaker 1: if at any point you're worried or concerned, that's when

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Speaker 1: you want to call our on call nurse. As Jess said,

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Speaker 1: we do have somebody who's on call twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: a day, seven days a week. So if you have questions,

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Speaker 1: that's when you want to give us a call. We

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Speaker 1: are here to support you kind of before, during, and after,

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Speaker 1: so make sure if you need us let us know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, just confirming that you're okay doing these standards should be.

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Speaker 1: There's such a wide range of folks who access abortion care,

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Speaker 1: whether that's through TST Health or anywhere else for that matter.

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Speaker 1: And yes, there are the teenagers who you know got

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Speaker 1: pregnant accidentally, didn't know or didn't care about birth NIRL whatever.

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Speaker 1: All the way up to you know, the fifty one

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Speaker 1: year old woman who thought she was going through menopause

456
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Speaker 1: and oh crud, and I'm now pregnant and my children

457
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: are already grown, or I never wanted to have children

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Speaker 1: in the first place, or whatever the situation is. Through

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Speaker 1: TST health, we don't see anyone who is under seventeen,

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Speaker 1: partially just because of you know, some minor abuse reporting

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Speaker 1: in those kind of things. So we do see some

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Speaker 1: older teenagers. That's been a very very small percentage of

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Speaker 1: who we seen. I see a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: are in their twenties, mid to late twenties. We see

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who are in their late thirties,

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Speaker 1: and we've even seen a few people who are in

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Speaker 1: their mid to late forties. And so I can't say

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Speaker 1: that there's one demographic of who we see because we

469
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Speaker 1: have seen the entire gamut of folks. Some patients do

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Speaker 1: stand out. I was so proud of this young woman

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Speaker 1: who I didn't even know, but she was in college

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Speaker 1: unintentionally pregnant. She had all of these plans for her future,

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Speaker 1: which she was able to share some with me, and

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Speaker 1: she's probably going to be running the world someday, and

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Speaker 1: pregnancy did not come into her plan, and so she

476
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Speaker 1: filled out her paperwork. She wanted to talk about birth control.

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Speaker 1: She was concerned about timing because she needed some she

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Speaker 1: lived in the dorm. She needed a time when her

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Speaker 1: roommate wasn't there and she had some privacy. So we

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Speaker 1: worked around her schedule. And that's the other beauty about

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Speaker 1: TST health is that we can work around somebody's schedule.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know this was.

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Speaker 1: My roommate has a class from six to nine pm

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Speaker 1: Mountain time.

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Speaker 2: Can you please? Can we please?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, absolutely, what time works for you. We went

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Speaker 1: through the whole process. She had downloaded all of re forms,

488
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: she had all of these questions. We got all of

489
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Speaker 1: those questions answered. You know, she was firm and clear

490
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Speaker 1: in her decision and didn't have family that she could

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Speaker 1: turn to because of their beliefs. But her partner was

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Speaker 1: supportive and she had a friend who was supportive and

493
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Speaker 1: had someone to help her kind of go through this process.

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Speaker 1: And it was just it was wonderful to see this

495
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Speaker 1: person is taking charge of their life. They know what

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Speaker 1: they need, they've gotten the facts, they know how to

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Speaker 1: take care of themselves. They reached out and they got

498
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Speaker 1: the care that they needed. We were able to connect

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Speaker 1: and do that and she can have children at the

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Speaker 1: time of her choosing. You know, we see people at

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Speaker 1: some of their worst moments and to be able to

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Speaker 1: say I hear you, and it's okay, and I can

503
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Speaker 1: help you, and let's talk about this to when maybe

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00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: somebody else in their lives doesn't want to talk about it,

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00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: or they didn't get any support, or they didn't nowhere

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00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: else to go, and it's it's just it's a wonderful career.

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Speaker 4: Perfect, Okay, great, Well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, really appreciate it. Take care of yourself,

509
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: and again, please reach out if you need us, because

510
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Speaker 1: that's what we're here for.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I just want to say, this

513
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: is a great organization. You guys are doing great things

514
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Speaker 1: for people. Well, thank you, Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

516
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: And like I said, take care of yourself and please

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Speaker 1: let us know if you need anything from us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys.

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00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: All right, bye, bye bye. There's no way that I

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00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: could do the work that I'm doing without the support

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Speaker 1: of my family, you know, not only my partner of

522
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: thirty five years, but you know, my kids as well,

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00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: who have their own set of beliefs and values, and

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00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: everyone is just so supportive and has enabled me to

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Speaker 1: do what I do, and for that, I'm really grateful.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of people who are looking

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Speaker 1: at a nursing career or a nurse practitioner career, or

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Speaker 1: you know, want to go into sexual and reproductive health,

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Speaker 1: or even specifically when I go into abortion care. And

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Speaker 1: it's been the biggest honor and privilege to do what

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Speaker 1: I do, and I wouldn't change a thing, and it's

533
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: so awesome, hard but awesome. Yes, I am tearing up

534
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: because it's just it's the best thing ever. As I'm

535
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: finishing up my workday, I just kind of review and

536
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: make sure that everything that was on my to do

537
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: list today got done, or if it didn't, I just

538
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: move it over to tomorrow. I turn out the light

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00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: and leave my little office here in my house, and

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Speaker 1: once I'm in the living room, I usually pour a

541
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Speaker 1: drink and touch base and connect with my partner. Okay, puppies,

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Speaker 1: let's go outside.

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Speaker 2: It's about nine thirty and I'm getting ready.

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Speaker 1: To go to bed. I usually let the dogs out

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Speaker 1: for one last little romp around the yard, good night,