Speaker 1: Oh, you're in for a treat today because one of
Speaker 1: our most iconic second daters is back.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, still needs.
Speaker 1: Our help or needs our help again, I should say,
Speaker 1: which is a bummer because he is so iconic.
Speaker 3: He is, he is.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do Yeah, You're gonna know this guy immediately. Hey,
Speaker 1: welcome to the brand new Second Date Update episode. Thanks
Speaker 1: for being part of the podcast. And I love when
Speaker 1: you let us know what you think, how you feel
Speaker 1: about the show, maybe your opinions on how it went,
Speaker 1: or you know how you started listening. Whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say, you like to read it. Well, this one says, y'all,
Speaker 1: crack me up. You're like free therapy and I listen
Speaker 1: to you at eleven pm every night. What more could
Speaker 1: you want? Hey, Harrison here, listening from Dubai.
Speaker 4: Session should be a thing.
Speaker 1: We are not a therapy.
Speaker 4: As I go to bed is when I think about
Speaker 4: all the problems in my life.
Speaker 1: It's always hardest tonight. Yeah, that is how it is
Speaker 1: always for everyone. I'm glad we got you through that awesome.
Speaker 1: Thanks for leaving that comment and for listening all the
Speaker 1: way from Dubai. That's so cool starts now, Yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: exactly brand new second date.
Speaker 2: Second date update on the phone.
Speaker 5: Right now, we have a return caller who's more than
Speaker 5: just a man, he's an artiste. You may remember Kevin
Speaker 5: from a previous second date call where he decorates the
Speaker 5: inside of his fridge as part of a.
Speaker 1: TikTok trend fridge escape Kevin.
Speaker 5: That's right, freeg Escaper couldn't be more thrilled to have
Speaker 5: him back on the show. Kevin, real quick, could you
Speaker 5: remind us what happened the last time you were on
Speaker 5: with us for a second date.
Speaker 3: Well, I had a girl rumming place and I ran
Speaker 3: out toilet paper for her.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'd used it in this sculpture that was
Speaker 1: inside your fridge, right, yep.
Speaker 3: She didn't like that I thought of using the toilet
Speaker 3: paper out of fridge.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, well old toilet paper actually pro tip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those reasons you get ruined art just for the bathroom.
Speaker 5: People are particular about lots of weird things. So obviously
Speaker 5: she wasn't your match. But you're back today cause maybe
Speaker 5: you found yourself a new romantic interest.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, did she get to see your fridge scaping skills?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Actually, uh, TikTok train kind of died out now, so.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're not doing it. You only go with the
Speaker 1: You don't do it because.
Speaker 3: You like it. No, Yeah, I got a new got
Speaker 3: a new thing.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious. What's your new hobby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you guys know microwave mosaics?
Speaker 2: Microwave mosaic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it shouldn't be metal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 3: So what I do is I rearranged the leftover stains
Speaker 3: into abstract pieces. The splatter patterns like they tell a story.
Speaker 5: Now, wow, inside your microwave, that's actually you turn that
Speaker 5: into like a scene.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Do you like painted onto like
Speaker 1: what it looks like you painted onto a canvas or what?
Speaker 3: No? I just leave like soup in their way too long,
Speaker 3: and then I take some pictures of it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I would have totally earned you an A in
Speaker 1: one of my art classes in college.
Speaker 2: Right back to this new girl. What's her name?
Speaker 3: Her name is Audrey?
Speaker 1: Okay, and how did you meet Audrey?
Speaker 3: I met her at Michaels when I was picking up
Speaker 3: some art supplies.
Speaker 2: Okay, to shared interests.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Like I was picking up a
Speaker 3: jumbo of googly eyes and she was getting some sort
Speaker 3: of acrylic paint, and uh, yeah, we just started talking
Speaker 3: about art.
Speaker 4: Is a conversation starter at checkout for sure.
Speaker 1: I think that's so fun, Like our art is so important,
Speaker 1: you know, especially to your life. So that's cool that
Speaker 1: you bonded over that immediately.
Speaker 2: Very true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just asked her if she wanted to grab
Speaker 3: a drink sometime, and she gave me your number, So.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
Speaker 1: Isn't that wild? Like Michael's the hookup Spot?
Speaker 5: I know, it feels like fate intervened in the arts
Speaker 5: and craft section.
Speaker 2: Michaels is a good.
Speaker 1: Place to find a grill, I mean hot tip. Make
Speaker 1: sure you have the app in the coupons because you
Speaker 1: could really save somebody.
Speaker 3: A lot of money.
Speaker 2: Okay, you lost me there, bro, Yeah, it's like the
Speaker 2: granny tip. But where did you and Audrey go for
Speaker 2: your date?
Speaker 3: Well, the date sort of didn't happen, and now I
Speaker 3: feel bad about kind of how I'm down. You know
Speaker 3: what happened? Well, I had a reservation at this bar
Speaker 3: and we were supposed to meet up there. Okay, you know,
Speaker 3: I even brought my whole portfolio to show some of
Speaker 3: my microwave put mosaics to her because I thought, like
Speaker 3: she's an artist, she's gonna appreciate this. And Okay, I
Speaker 3: get there first and I'm waiting for her. Fifteen minutes goes,
Speaker 3: by twenty thirty she's not there, and then after one
Speaker 3: hour she finally shows up.
Speaker 2: Oh she does not shocking no apology.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm super upset at this point, like I'm
Speaker 3: like internally fuming. I just decide, you know what, I'm leaving.
Speaker 5: Whoa some of those artists creative types, not as like
Speaker 5: on schedule, but late.
Speaker 4: The no apology. I mean, it doesn't mean it's excusable,
Speaker 4: but at least have some empathy, Like was.
Speaker 2: There a conversation that happened at all?
Speaker 3: I mean it's just like hi, she said, and I
Speaker 3: was like bye, what?
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't explain why you were mad?
Speaker 3: Was she is an hour late?
Speaker 1: I know, but you didn't even give her a chance
Speaker 1: to apologize, Like she literally said hi and then you
Speaker 1: said bye? Like what if the apology was coming.
Speaker 3: Well I wasn't. I didn't hear anything, so I would.
Speaker 5: That actually makes you have to wait till at least
Speaker 5: after dinner to get the apology and then you can
Speaker 5: storm off.
Speaker 1: Are you regretting that because you're calling us to get her.
Speaker 3: Back, right, I mean that's the thing, Like, that's why
Speaker 3: I'm calling, because she did text me after the fact
Speaker 3: and was like what you did was rude. Oh you
Speaker 3: have no idea what I'm going through.
Speaker 1: I mean she's going it's rude, I will say, like,
Speaker 1: I mean her showing up that late is also rude.
Speaker 2: But like without any texts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't even say like, hey I'm running late,
Speaker 5: that's even happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got a huge car accident. You left be
Speaker 1: where she got to tell you.
Speaker 2: Well, if her finger still works, she could at.
Speaker 1: Least be like, I mean, did you ever find out?
Speaker 3: No, at this point, like I reached out and like
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm like blocked or what what not,
Speaker 3: because there's just like no response.
Speaker 5: And man, I don't know who side to be on
Speaker 5: because they both were kind of balanced rudeness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they both have.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those situations that I think we
Speaker 1: could maybe fix. Honestly, Yeah, it sounds like it went
Speaker 1: from zero to one hundred way too quick in frustration.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Kevin, do you still want to, like try
Speaker 5: again to get another date with her out of this.
Speaker 2: Is that your home?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, like just like a read you.
Speaker 1: And how are you gonna feel if she doesn't apologize? Still? Oh?
Speaker 3: Any good question? I hadn't thought about.
Speaker 1: Okay, think about that one.
Speaker 5: But she doesn't get to see his microwave Mosaic portfolio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's gonna be her loss.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 1: I bet the tomato soup one is gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the faves.
Speaker 3: Have you seen it? Do you follow me?
Speaker 5: You gotta DM some of the photos though over to
Speaker 5: us just on Brooks profile.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, out.
Speaker 1: And the oatmeal because that oatmeal always.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a totally different segment of the Microwave
Speaker 5: Mosaic Art breakdown.
Speaker 2: We'll do that on your Fun Little Side podcast.
Speaker 5: Yea yeah, all right, but now we got to stick
Speaker 5: to the second date update. Hopefully get some answers for
Speaker 5: Kevin and find out why Audrey didn't show up for
Speaker 5: an hour.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hope we're not prying.
Speaker 2: I hope we are. We'll do it with your second
Speaker 2: date update right after this second date update. You know,
Speaker 2: a true.
Speaker 5: Artist is able to move between mediums like Picasso did
Speaker 5: when he shifted from his blue period into surrealism.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 5: Technically, and it was not the right Nobody likes that person, Brook, Okay.
Speaker 2: You're not backing down.
Speaker 5: The point is our listener, Kevin was able miraculously to
Speaker 5: move from fridge scapes into microwave mosaics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, show me those splatter patterns.
Speaker 5: He takes photos of abstract soup splatter in his microwave
Speaker 5: and posts them online.
Speaker 1: Did you should try? Butter? That stuff explodes like.
Speaker 2: Crazy, and she's telling you you're doing your art wrong.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not excited about it, Jeff. I want to like.
Speaker 2: You're telling him how to do it.
Speaker 1: Sorry for suggestions, Jeff, I will never suggest anything ever again.
Speaker 2: Suggestion.
Speaker 5: It is an aggressive suggestion. But Kevin wears his emotions
Speaker 5: on his sleeve, and if I'm reading him right today,
Speaker 5: he's feeling a little guilty.
Speaker 1: Wow, apply how he's feeling, Jeff. Okay, maybe should.
Speaker 2: Kevin am I in the ballpark?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: This is maybe having an internal struggle here. Can we
Speaker 2: call you back tomorrow?
Speaker 5: The issue is Kevin's date showed up an hour late,
Speaker 5: and when she arrived she said hi. Kevin just said bye.
Speaker 1: Which I don't blame you like waiting an hour is
Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't believe you did that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Afterwards, though, she did send a text saying you were rude.
Speaker 5: You don't even know what I'm going through right now.
Speaker 5: So that made Kevin feel like, oops, maybe he messed.
Speaker 1: Up, which is kind of a good life lesson. You know,
Speaker 1: you just don't know what people are going through. Ever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, as soon as we get her
Speaker 1: on the phone and we get you on as well,
Speaker 1: are you wanting to apologize.
Speaker 2: Or lay into her? Oh?
Speaker 3: I do want to hear what she has to say,
Speaker 3: which is what I didn't do in the first place. Okay,
Speaker 3: And also I really want her to see my portfolio,
Speaker 3: right because she's an art lover too.
Speaker 2: We want to see it too, or for something else.
Speaker 2: But anyway, is the only one who thought I can't
Speaker 2: get into the mind of the artist right now?
Speaker 1: There are a lot of horny, weird men and that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just gonna call Audrey and hopefully we can
Speaker 5: move past the mental images going.
Speaker 2: On in my head show All right, here we go. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 2: is this Audrey?
Speaker 6: Yeah? This is her.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to her.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all excited to talk to you, Audrey, because
Speaker 5: you're on a radio show right now called Brook and
Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Audrey, Good morning.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, I'm all sad. Guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Because it's not a telemarket or call.
Speaker 5: We're doing a segment from our show. This is called
Speaker 5: a second date update. Have you ever heard of that before?
Speaker 6: I guess how did you get my number?
Speaker 5: We have a listener named Kevin who says he went out, well,
Speaker 5: he almost went out on a date with you recently.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a good interaction. We know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I mean did he even tell you what
Speaker 6: he did?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: It walked out.
Speaker 5: The full story that we heard is you had planet
Speaker 5: date at a restaurant. You were running about an hour late.
Speaker 5: There wasn't a whole lot of communication, and so when
Speaker 5: you arrived, he just decided to get up and leave.
Speaker 1: Like you said hi, he said bye.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean like I showed up and he never
Speaker 6: even asked me why it was late. He never TechEd
Speaker 6: to see if I was okay, you know, if I
Speaker 6: was going through something.
Speaker 1: Interesting, and he never text.
Speaker 4: Didn't you text him at all? Like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's fifteen minutes late. I should probably say something like I.
Speaker 6: Was, you know, I was going through something and I
Speaker 6: just it wasn't okay, I'm going to get there when
Speaker 6: I was going to get there.
Speaker 2: That's understandable.
Speaker 5: And Kevin has looked back on the entire experience and
Speaker 5: he feels like he messed up.
Speaker 2: That's kind of why we're calling.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, what if I told you guys that one
Speaker 6: of my parents had passed away that day?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh so sorry, that's terrible.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I tried to pull myself together after
Speaker 6: I had like an hour to process it. What and
Speaker 6: I made my way over to the restaurant and then
Speaker 6: I walked in and he was just so cold to me.
Speaker 6: And I know, I.
Speaker 1: Can't even believe that you even, yeah, showed up. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe you were just in shock.
Speaker 5: A personally, but for most people, yes, that that is
Speaker 5: that's a lot.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, in my defense, it didn't. They didn't
Speaker 6: really die, but like they could have and at least
Speaker 6: then like he could have asked me what he should
Speaker 6: have asked me? What was going Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait, hold on, I died, you know,
Speaker 1: she didn't say someone died. She said her parents died
Speaker 1: her your parents didn't die.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I said, what if my parents died?
Speaker 6: Like if that was a scenario.
Speaker 2: Oh, that was a theoretical situation.
Speaker 1: I just felt really terrible. Yeah, that was an emotional
Speaker 1: roller coaster. Really, I didn't know. We're playing what it
Speaker 1: Let's emphasize the what is maybe stronger next time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I was trying to just give it
Speaker 6: a example of how you don't know what's going on
Speaker 6: in somebody's life, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he went with a really dark example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you just tell us what was going on
Speaker 1: with you? I mean, we don't mean to pry personally,
Speaker 1: but I just need a recovery. I like, it's sadder
Speaker 1: than that. I don't know if I want to know,
Speaker 1: what was.
Speaker 2: The real reason that you were an hour late?
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe if Kevin were to ask me,
Speaker 6: then maybe i'd answer him, But I don't think it's
Speaker 6: really any of your business.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that that works.
Speaker 5: Sure, it Actually it works perfectly because Kevin is on
Speaker 5: the phone on the other line right now, waiting to
Speaker 5: talk to you.
Speaker 1: OHI he almost felt like the worst person in the
Speaker 1: world with that parent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did happen? I still don't really understand. I
Speaker 3: get it that maybe you were going through something, you know.
Speaker 3: I feel bad that I didn't give you a chance
Speaker 3: to explain yourself.
Speaker 1: She's still there.
Speaker 6: I mean, well, what if I told you that my
Speaker 6: parents passed?
Speaker 3: What you already did?
Speaker 5: That he heard that part, Audrey, Wait, you were here
Speaker 5: the whole time, yes, listening, so he knows that that's
Speaker 5: not true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So why were you really late?
Speaker 6: If you really want to know? I kind of just
Speaker 6: forgot about it.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, what's worse the parents passing or her forgetting
Speaker 5: about It's pretty close.
Speaker 1: Why is there no in between? Forgetting is forgivable? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I forget stuff all the time if I
Speaker 1: don't put it into my calendar, Like, you got to
Speaker 1: be honest about it.
Speaker 6: Well, because he had, he had texted me, you know,
Speaker 6: where are you? And then that's when I realized, like,
Speaker 6: oh god, I forgot. I'm supposed to go on a
Speaker 6: date with that curly haired art guy. And I realized,
Speaker 6: and then I tried to get ready, and you know,
Speaker 6: like I where we were meeting wasn't super close, so
Speaker 6: I needed time to drive, and I got over there,
Speaker 6: and you know, I show up and then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, he's just like bye. And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: you didn't even give me a chance to say anything.
Speaker 1: What were you going to say?
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know I was gonna say something
Speaker 6: about my parents.
Speaker 2: I don't know You're gonna lie to it. She's gonna
Speaker 2: say what if first though, I told you, Kevin? How
Speaker 2: are you feeling hearing all of this?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just kind of like wondering what if
Speaker 3: I told her when I was about ready to store
Speaker 3: her off like that I had to go because of
Speaker 3: my parents funeral?
Speaker 1: Why are we both growing hypotheticals at each other? Like
Speaker 1: really dark one Now?
Speaker 6: I just feel like you're being petty.
Speaker 3: I'm just using the example that you use Audrey for me.
Speaker 3: So if I'm being petty, then that's your fault.
Speaker 6: God, Okay, no, that's not No. Those aren't even close
Speaker 6: to being the same.
Speaker 3: Exactly that, it's the literal same.
Speaker 1: They're doing it again, though. They're trying to out petty
Speaker 1: each other again, just like they did that first night.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: The thing about a successful relationship is somebody has to
Speaker 5: be willing to admit that they were wrong and they
Speaker 5: messed up in order to move forward, and you both.
Speaker 2: Kind of messed up in your own rights.
Speaker 1: Right, it's powerful to apologize.
Speaker 3: No, I mean you're right, that you're right. Somebody needs
Speaker 3: to apologize. I'm gonna give her three seconds to do it.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, Audrey, ball's in your court. Do you
Speaker 2: want to out an apology?
Speaker 6: I think you know that it's going to take me
Speaker 6: at least an hour.
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Some nuggets of truth to it, And I can't believe
Speaker 3: like that I was actually going to show you my
Speaker 3: microw with mosaics, like I've never even shown that to
Speaker 3: another woman in person.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Audrey, did you even know he had those?
Speaker 6: He told me about it.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't shut up about it. Oh well, well I've
Speaker 3: said it before and I'll say it again. Bye.
Speaker 2: WHOA does want to date Kevin?
Speaker 5: You can't say bye because I haven't even asked Audrey
Speaker 5: yet if she would like to go out on another.
Speaker 2: Date with you. Because Audrey, if you're up for it,
Speaker 2: we would pay for it.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, look at that. I just got a text
Speaker 6: that I think my parents.
Speaker 3: Passed the.
Speaker 1: Information to deliver via text, Kevin.
Speaker 2: At this point, you want to check in with her
Speaker 2: and see how she's doing.
Speaker 3: I mean, are you okay, Kevin?
Speaker 2: She was being sarcastic with you there. Her parents aren't dead.
Speaker 3: All right, Kevin?
Speaker 6: I think he stood in front of the microwave too
Speaker 6: many times.
Speaker 2: We're never having two artists on the same call ever. Again,
Speaker 2: this is too messy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, you need a date an accountant.
Speaker 5: Jeffrey in the morning, and that whole call really symbolizes
Speaker 5: the state of dating today.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's that bad?
Speaker 5: The degree of petting this where you just can't let
Speaker 5: the other person win or feel good about anything. No
Speaker 5: mistake will ever go unpunished in the dating world.
Speaker 1: Oh God, that is a bleak outlook, jeff I thought
Speaker 1: you were going to come with something more positive and helpful.
Speaker 5: She completely forgot about the date and then tried to
Speaker 5: gaslight him and make him feel guilty by inventing dead parents.
Speaker 3: D is.
Speaker 1: I think that's so understandable to forget, like she actually
Speaker 1: put effort into still and then she made it worse. Yeah, yeah, gasp.
Speaker 4: But for me, I'd be like, oh, if I'm not important,
Speaker 4: if you remember our first date. If you're not excited
Speaker 4: about it, then important.
Speaker 2: It's showing up an hour late, really putting in a
Speaker 2: lot of effort.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think it's forgivable to forget a date,
Speaker 1: like especially a date of a person that you had
Speaker 1: a brief interaction with. You know, if you don't write
Speaker 1: it down, how do you remember. I think that she
Speaker 1: could have just been honest. But for that there's.
Speaker 5: Another theoretical out there that you just can't work with anymore.
Speaker 2: Any great, but it didn't happen. I don't know.
Speaker 5: If this doesn't make you feel optimistic about love, what will?
Speaker 1: Mosaics were pretty uplifting, that for.
Speaker 2: Sure field inspired.
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